They were going to merge it with the wasteland. It _WAS_ a good idea really... but they did it all wrong. All they did was steal a few assets and put them in the stock-standard wasteland. I think Ideally wasteland should be "burnt forest" everywhere which is rural or sub-urban. And inside cities it could be the familiar form of wasteland (where it would make sense to have the rubble and such). That would also make the gyrocopter and 4x4 actually useful in the wasteland (outside of cities anyway). I'm glad it's back too though. It has a very eerie aesthetic. But I'm a little disappointed that they never merged it with wasteland in a sensible way.
Glad to have burnt forest back. Tbh I never gave it the respect it deserved when we had it but when I got to play New York undead map it really showed just how amazing the burnt forest was for the ambience. I missed the badlands aswell but I suppose that one is gone to never return
@@kathrynck Imho Navezgane gives straight away their original intention, where they placed the burnt forest between the wasteland (and it's ruined city) and the Pine Forest. They probably tried to implement, that the game would auto-generate a wasteland city, as in it was hit by a nuke and around it burnt forest, as the heat wave from the nuke would've incinerated the forested area around a city. But they never managed to do it, so they left the burnt forest in as a legacy biome basically, then they tried to get rid of it with A21 by "merging" it, saw that they did bullcrap and then put it back in with 1.0. TFP are just some of the worst devs out there, period. 7 Days to Die is just as succesful because it is an early pioneer title, mixing Minecraft with Zombie Survival and boom, that is essentialy how you got it, profiting from the Minecraft hype. Many people bought it back then and that is how they have so many players right now, because sunken cost. People bought it, so they might as well play it. If 7DTD would be freshly released todays as it is right now, no one would've bought it yet, it would utterly fail.
Credit where credit is due, if they made it better, they should get a praise, but i agree this is barely acceptable. The game isn't nearly as beautiful as demanding. (and i want acceptable performance more than beauty, so focus on that first)
The bad FPS is due to CPU strain, not entirely GPU strain. You can reduce various settings to help speed things up on hoard night, but it's still going to drain depending on the amount of zombies, path-finding and interactions with the environment zombies are going to have.
I still think it’s going to be obnoxious having to change outfits every time you switch tasks. I get you can afford to specialize in multiplayer, but you have to do it all in solo.
@@TheLegend-hq4zg who in their right mind is going to harvest with the handicap of not getting maximum returns? well i can think of 1 australian, but we don't talk about him
@@WaywardEko Are you using the Boot.config edit that adds multi threading ability to Unity Engine that is not setup normally? I figured for this review you was unable to do that, but in A21 i figured you'd being using the added lines for boot.config. I noticed a pretty good performance increase across the board from that simple edit of the file. Really Curious. If you haven't I'd love to see you're results with adding it into the boot.config file found in 7d2d_data folder in the base game directory.Just add the following lines there to get the effect, doesn't affect any save data, just how the game handles mulit-threading. gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1 gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1 wait-for-native-debugger=0 scripting-runtime-version=latest vr-enabled=0 hdr-display-enabled=0 gc-max-time-slice=3
ive waited over 6 years for this. started playing in alpha 14 and got put in nearly almost 2000 hours on console and pc combined. With every update, this game gets closer to what ive wished it was. Im glad the The Fun Pimps were able to reaquire the rights to console development and have a fair release with both platforms. Cheers to 1.0 🍻
R.I.P. alpha. There were times that I loved you and times that I hated you, (clipping me and my full mini bike though the ground.) But lots of memories were made. I can't wait to begin the new ones in 1.0.
@@WaywardEko I'll explain in three short ways their actual largest issues aside the usual "architecture bad too complicated/immature" insanity am biased towards. They don't object pool, they don't paralell for anything with the job system like they should be, and they don't utilize a proper custom pathfinding backend to help reduce physics casting and all the other insanity their paid for version does. They have an attitude problem that's the true issue though, to fix these kinds of things takes a different mindset than usual indies have. They need to want to self improve. I think with some training assuming they were actually open to it, if they were open to actual wisdom sharing even, they could totally turn it around in a couple years. But this has been a long drawn out thing am least personally not optimistic, but hey if they manage to change absolutely kudo on them.
@@duncanshania Agreed, TFP are one of the worst dev teams out there. 7 Days is just as succesful as it is because it was one of the first titles of this kind being thrown into the gaming world, mixing the Minecraft Hype with Undead Survival and, in relation to minecraft, better graphics. Imagine what would happen if 7DTD wouldn't have existed as an Early Access, they would've developed it to what it is now in private and would release it now as 1.0. on Steam... the game would hugely flop compared to the competition, get torn apart in reviews and just utterly fail. But most players bought it back then, have pulled in friends to play with them over the years, so the costs are already sunk, so the players might as well play it. That is how they get their playerbase. Ffs, they didn't even integrate Steam Workshop Support!
@@SirMcMuffin Yet its still not done. We've still got a weather system, bandits, steam mod support, story/npcs. I guess I won't consider it 1.0 until its actually done :P
@@mikeriley2475 another 10 years prolly... but hey, modders gonna do their job with more enthusiasm now, since it's 1.0. Steam mod support should've been the center of gravity tho....
I hate when games force me to wear gear that makes it more beneficial to do certain tasks. I spend too much of my time switching and managing my inventory (the most boring aspects of the game) every time I wanna do something. As oppose to a learnt skill that's always active once I've meet the requirements. If you spend a lot of time harvesting wood wouldn't you learn over time how to make better use of the tools thus optimizing your resources which not only makes sense but allows you to focus on the tasks at hand and enjoying the game. Rather then I wanna do something but I'm not sure if I'm wearing my correct outfit. At best having the outfits with bonuses for your fighting style would be fine but for harvesting and the like it's a nuisance.
They came by the magical streak naturally: modding Bethesda games. :) There was never any concrete separation between the Elder Scrolls and Fallout franchises at Bethesda, which liberally reuses code from one franchise's game when developing a new one for another. (There's even a reference to the Pip-Boy light in Skryim's code indicating what you see onscreen as a Skryim torch.) Ergo, armor and weapon "enchantments" and "legendaries" in Bethesda's Fallouts, which have in turn inspired the armor enchantments we're now seeing in 7 Days to Die. I'd prefer a postapolayptic world be more realistically postapocalyptic myself, but...Bethesda. :)
To be fair, if I'm going to chop wood I'm going to wear a different outfit than if I was going to try to sneak around a zombie-infested facility or do gardening or go on a road trip or w/e. So, it's not completely unrealistic, but it's still annoying.
Well, you can complain about a lot of things, but about a realistic approach to clothing, you don't go to Mount Everest in Bermuda shorts either, so please, yes this example is exaggerated. But nevertheless, clothing has its purpose & that's a good thing, if it's too complex for you then just play something else. Always this crying about games these days, oh I don't like this, oh I don't like that wäh wäh wäh 🤨
No one is FORCING you ... that is a personal choice to min max. I had early access and have around 100 hours in on 1.0 and only on a handful of times have I switched outfits for a bonus and I'm thriving on Survivalist w/ 64 zeds. Lots of people speaking hyperbolic. In regards to magical armor giving bonuses ... those have been part of the game. How about cigars that make you stronger ... or help you barter ... this stuff has always been there.
That's why i love darkness falls (and how it was way way back in alpha 14 or 15?) where if you mine, you upgrade your mining skills. If you use shotguns, you upgrade your shotgun skill. I have no clue why they won't use this, but instead introduced annoying magazines that forces you to loot (or buy them). Not to mention it's easily cheesable by going through a big city and only looting mailboxes and buildings that got bookshelves.
@@infernaltourist9601 still bad considering there is no ray tracing and I dont believe it supports dlss unless i missed something. Granted, this is beta, but that still really poorly optimized
@@infernaltourist9601there's more to it than the graphics that are making the game demanding, for example the destructible environment and ai which is usually cpu demanding
Okay, now I'm really hyped for 1.0. The fact the our trader progression doesn't get reset when we go to a new trader is game changing for me. I usually didn't care unless I start with Rekt or Hugh, I just continued on. Being able to start at T2 when go to Jen and etc. is going to be so sweet. Amazing Vid Eko. Thanks for the updated info
@@WaywardEko Additionally, we won't be able farm out various traders for all the completion rewards anymore, which is another welcome nerf/change in my eyes. :)
I feel like the dew collector gettin murky water is kinda a positive too. Like you need it for glue, and normally you cant really get too much murky. I at least am always low on duct tape.
@@Azeliniana the cloth costs of things is a bit obnoxious in A21 though. First 2-3 weeks is hording cloth like crazy to have enough. and then it becomes a non-issue after that. But water/glue/duct tape is a bit of a grind too, yeah. I use a mod which takes the heatmap generation away from dew collectors, that helps game balance substantially.
TFPs have always said Bandits was something they wanted to add but they never gave a timetable for it happening. Bandits are now on the Roadmap that they released. If they don’t add them Q2 2025, I think then it would be fair to complain about the Bandits not making it to game. * But I must add that there is always that warning that this is an estimate and the timeline is subject to change.
Oddly, to me at least, what I'm most excited for is the remnant buildings. I loved the dungeon style POIs when they were introduced but that's all we get now. While the one the large office building at the beginning of Dev Stream 3 is nice, I hope we get some POI homes to explore that aren't pathed out and are more of the pre-alpha 17 variety.
Honestly, given how irritating several of the traders are (voice acting wise), I wish it were an option to outright kill them and then be able to loot 100% of their store (including any hidden rooms and vending machines etc.). And I'm not usually the type of player to do this. But it'd be a way to get faster starting gear but nerf how easy the future of the game would be (since you'd no longer be able to trade with them ever again), and there could be an Option as to whether the other traders learn about this / get more security or whatever. It should be a deliberate thing, though. Not something where you accidentally happened to shoot them -- that's gonna happen, if allowed -- but where you'd have to deliberately get back there and finish them off, and had the option to patch them up instead.
Great video! I'm not thrilled with one-piece outfits. I want to go shirtless. The new models and skins are awesome, looks great. I'm gonna miss that old yellow cruiser bike. Best POI builders in the biz.
I really like a lot of changes that were done, the game’s been ironed out a lot more and I’m happy we’ve all come this far. However, in my opinion I’m not a fan of the new armour system. I liked being able to mix and match clothes, but now it feels limited to set outfits not to mentioned you’re gonna have to change your clothes all the time to do certain things.
since Day 1 I was like this is a fun game, even when it was a bit off kilter here and there with the added updates. Thank you so much for keeping it going and never stop digging away at it all
Not sure the performance "gains" are worth mentioning. You have a rig much better than most (55%+GPU & 87%+CPU) people on the STEAM charts and more if you were to also consider consoles. You have a top end machine and that's before consider your ddr5 and ssd speeds. Before we anyone says to give credit where credit is due put into perspective you demanded a raise for work and so your boss said sure and you went from $20.00/hr to $20.01/hr but hey you got your raise....😅 Other than that thanks for the video
I believe this is also with basic settings, without mods, for any files. Simple fps fix with boot.config file change will normally net a pretty good increase in fps, which he was probably not able to run with this due to constraints in place for testing or review purposes. Now once you have the files themselves, I highly suggest edit of boot.config to add in the info to turn on multi-threading in Unity engine there. It boosts fps due to sharing workload of the GPU to the CPU cores which isn't defaulted on in Unity without being called for in the boot.config. The boot.config file is located in the 7d2d_data folder or was. Assuming it's still in same general location. Also, assuming that Unity 2022 engine will allow even more performance gains though multi-threading, as it is a much more updated engine that previously used in 7d2d with the older unity engine. The lines to add in said file are as follows: gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1 gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1 wait-for-native-debugger=0 scripting-runtime-version=latest vr-enabled=0 hdr-display-enabled=0 gc-max-time-slice=3 Just edit the boot.config file in notepad and copy and paste these lines into it, then save. Once you run the game again, you should notice a performance increase. However, longer play cycles will still cause slowdowns to happen over time of play. If you play for 2-3 hours straight, it may start chunking along and stuttering. This I'm told is due to Unity's poor data resource cleanup calls. I'm not sure even modding could fix this. With pretty heavy settings, my system manages to run current A21 at around 110-120fps in the wilderness and 70-90fps in cities. I do not have a monster system either. AMD 5600x CPU, AMD 6600xt GPU, 32gb ram. on decent SSD's. that's running the game in 1440p on a dual monitor setup. I don't turn down the in-game graphics to much either to allow for better visuals while still offering smooth gameplay.
I mentioned it mostly because it's in the patch notes and comparatively and subjectively ... it felt better in some situations. The more I've played the less it feels like much of an improvement though.
Annoyed AF that so many fanboys refuse to admit this "1.0" is not a real 1.0. It's just a half finished game that they are shoving out the door for what could be several reasons. Seeing as I already own it I will give it a go and see how good or bad it is. If it's bad I will just walk away and play something else.
Are bandits even in the game yet? To me it's crazy with how many features were promised nearly some decade ago that haven't seen light. All features promised to be in the game's official release. I'm going to be honest, I don't believe for a moment this is because they believe this is worthy of a 1.0. It's because they're probably in financial trouble again and a 1.0 release will temporarily give them some cash flow from console players. This is the same reason they released for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 back in the day. Look how that ended up.
Holy Frijoles! The new character customization is amazeballs!! I like a LOT of the new changes and am excited to dive in! Though I still miss Trader Hugh's frontier fort-style outpost.
@@skyworld5619 Yeh but people are losing their minds over NPC's not being included in 1.0 but they produced a roaadmap that gave a date they were aiming to get them out .. which is in 2025 people just need to have some patience
Can't wait to play ittt!!! I've started playing 7 Days many many years ago, seeing the game has evolved this far over the years is truly nostalgic and a fun experience!
I'm really going to miss the hodgepodge of clothing. I'm sure it's easier to model this way, but that was a lot of the fun with the game. Especially when your beefy bearded friend finds a pink skirt that's better than what they had before and they pop it on for the stats.
When I started this game, I was in middle school and played with my dad. Now I’m a high school senior and my father is no longer a part of my life, and wow what a journey it’s been. So excited to explore these new features.
one the most solid updates iv seen for a game, well done fun pimps also you can drink from bodies of water so use a bucket and bring some to base, but you still need to collect water for crafting.
They should add monster-specific loot, and loot-types, randomly-generated ofc, for example Soldier and Demolisher would be the best chance of getting grenades; rockets; explosive-ammo etc. and some very rare chance of getting rocket-launcher; M60 etc.
I’d also love to see another tier of traps. Like reinforced traps. So they take less damage, maybe deal more damage too. I just feel like late game especially the blade traps and electric traps break so fast.
@@WaywardEko yeah exactly! And the bundles give us 10 (which I still think is waaaay too many. Though I won’t complain lol) but if you actually use 10, they’re going to break. So my guess is they give us 10 intending us to use a couple at a time? Idk. But they should have stronger versions atleast, that perhaps require twice as many resources, and you can’t get them as rewards or in loot. Only craftable if you have them unlocked. And they take way less damage so they last all night without issue.
It's content creators like you, GunsNerdsandSteel, Glock09, and of course, Neebs Gaming that got me into this game! This was a treat to watch and be informed since next week my friends are going into experimental! :D
This game has come a long way.. last time I played it was on PS4 back in 2016 and here I am preparing for PS5 release next month. Shout out to the fun pimps for never giving up on this game and constantly improving it I love you guys so much for updating it! So here’s to you fun pimps. Here’s to the console release, here’s to the new memories I’ll make with my friends next month, and more importantly.. here’s to the wonderful bright future of 7 Days to Die! 🥂
To be clear on the trader tiers; while it does force you to go to the next biome for the trade route mission, that previous trader will still have the next tier of missions (rekt will force you to go talk to jen to get to T2 but rekt will have t2 missions same as jen). This is big because this won't entirely force you to move your base every time you tier up or move away from friends who are still working on lower tiers. You can also find legendary parts for that T6 crafting surprisingly early on (on a standard loot server I found one in a treehouse on at most a tier 2 lot in the pine forest with only the helmet mod that gives +loot so my loot stage was still pretty low).
Im seeing some 30 frames of 4090, dude you were getting like maybe 15 tops on those late hord nights. This update is absolutly insane I CANNOT wait to play this today!
Awesome overview! Very informative. It is sounding more cool than I thought and my concerns about the discarding of clothing are reduced quite a bit. I suspect that modders will figure out ways to "re-incorporate" most or all of the old items back into use somehow interesting too . . . Have heard some of the more cynical content creators express unsurprisingly cynical views on this update; but listening to this it sounds like lots of good stuff.
I went out of my way on this one to not share my opinions ... for the most part I tried to just show what's there. Being honest ... the progression is the best thing to come to this game. It will feel VERY different and is more of a challenge.
If they fixed performance when their is a ton of zombies, they could get rid of horde nights and people could just have a TON of zombies in the map. 15FPS on a 4090 is crazy.
@@WaywardEko Not really, id like to refortify an existing location and always be under threat of attracting a horde. I'd just like the horde night amount of zombies around my base at all times so Id actually have to stealth around in gameplay. Like project zombiod.
1,5k hours in alpha and counting. I have been playing since day 1. Thank you guys. My only complain is the skill progression with magazines and books. My OCD wants me to progress my skills by doing them.
First game I've ever seen that had a planned story progression that said, "nah, lets release 1.0 without that pesky story progression." They even said 1-2 versions ago that they wouldn't consider the game for release until the story part (plus bandits) was finished. Looks like that aged well huh?
Thank you so much for this amazing video! I've been avoiding news on 1.0 but with the release so close... I caved when this video was suggested by MoonLunaPlays. SO EXCITED!!!! Role on Monday! Thank you so much again for the fab video 🤩
They need to do an animation overhaul for hands, weapons, tools, Ect. Some simple free aim sway goes a long way, throw in a few extra animations for smoother transitions to make movement feel less rigid & bam 7 ways to cry in tarkov 😂
What I like to know is do zombies still hit you when you're 10 feet away one thing I hated was getting hit even tho I was clearly away from the zombies arm reach
Oh good lord. Thank you for this in-depth look at 1.0. I think I will enjoy exploring the changes even more than with the earlier alphas. I will state the clothing/armour changes don't seem to be as bad as it could have been.
The biggest draw for players right now is the multiplayer. I have gotten 3 people to play personally and everyone I know says that the main issue they have is that everyone needs to get all the magazines and it feels like being a side character in someone elses game instead of playing together. Hearing that shared quests only progress one person is a major turn off. Making a setting for shared magazines and for shared quests so its at least optional would bring a lot of players back to the game and make new players more likely to stay since they can customize preference for multiplayer. In fact this and optimization make up about 80% of the bad mojo surrounding this game and fixing the former would bring way more hype to this launch.
Adapt -- everyone doesn't need every magazine. If you are playing multiplayer ... divide and specialize. We did A MP run this Sunday and dominated using that strategy. Feed mags to a focused crafter in each area.
@@WaywardEko People usually just play casual with friends. Shared vs funneling is no different progression wise but it keeps the rest of the team from tracking progression or making their own items. It doesen't need to be a default but it needs to be a setting.
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TFP's finally did it. The game has kept fans for 10 years and now the baby is grown up. Looks better than I expected and looking forward to more.
Fantastic job on this overview video Eko! Outstanding editing, great presentation, and cheers to 1.0! 👏👏👏
Cheers to 1.0!! Thanks so much Tem!
You guys are the best 7 days to die TH-camrs.
Completely agree! Outstanding job Eko!
Woo WE and GNS in the same room! I guess neither of you are Batman.
all cool and stuff but where is the guns rework... the guns are the worst part about this game right now
Im so glad burnt forest is back. I have no idea why it was removed in the first place
They were going to merge it with the wasteland.
It _WAS_ a good idea really... but they did it all wrong. All they did was steal a few assets and put them in the stock-standard wasteland.
I think Ideally wasteland should be "burnt forest" everywhere which is rural or sub-urban. And inside cities it could be the familiar form of wasteland (where it would make sense to have the rubble and such). That would also make the gyrocopter and 4x4 actually useful in the wasteland (outside of cities anyway).
I'm glad it's back too though. It has a very eerie aesthetic. But I'm a little disappointed that they never merged it with wasteland in a sensible way.
Agreed! They just essentially lumped it in with the wasteland, and I never liked that.
Glad to have burnt forest back. Tbh I never gave it the respect it deserved when we had it but when I got to play New York undead map it really showed just how amazing the burnt forest was for the ambience. I missed the badlands aswell but I suppose that one is gone to never return
It's really nice just to give another biome on the map and mix things up!
@@kathrynck Imho Navezgane gives straight away their original intention, where they placed the burnt forest between the wasteland (and it's ruined city) and the Pine Forest.
They probably tried to implement, that the game would auto-generate a wasteland city, as in it was hit by a nuke and around it burnt forest, as the heat wave from the nuke would've incinerated the forested area around a city.
But they never managed to do it, so they left the burnt forest in as a legacy biome basically, then they tried to get rid of it with A21 by "merging" it, saw that they did bullcrap and then put it back in with 1.0.
TFP are just some of the worst devs out there, period. 7 Days to Die is just as succesful because it is an early pioneer title, mixing Minecraft with Zombie Survival and boom, that is essentialy how you got it, profiting from the Minecraft hype.
Many people bought it back then and that is how they have so many players right now, because sunken cost. People bought it, so they might as well play it.
If 7DTD would be freshly released todays as it is right now, no one would've bought it yet, it would utterly fail.
30 fps on average with a 4090 is beyond insane. Optimization is a MAJOR issue right now
I'm still hoping to see more, but it's better than it was.
Credit where credit is due, if they made it better, they should get a praise, but i agree this is barely acceptable.
The game isn't nearly as beautiful as demanding. (and i want acceptable performance more than beauty, so focus on that first)
The bad FPS is due to CPU strain, not entirely GPU strain. You can reduce various settings to help speed things up on hoard night, but it's still going to drain depending on the amount of zombies, path-finding and interactions with the environment zombies are going to have.
Bad cpu. Even with my 1080 TI i get better fps than you 😂
@@codered1941 *runs potato settings*
I still think it’s going to be obnoxious having to change outfits every time you switch tasks. I get you can afford to specialize in multiplayer, but you have to do it all in solo.
Meh ... I'm just not going to. I might change for harvest specific sessions, but I always do those in a focused clip anyway.
You don't have to change. There isn't a penalty, it's just a nice buff. Better to have the option than not.
@@TheLegend-hq4zg who in their right mind is going to harvest with the handicap of not getting maximum returns? well i can think of 1 australian, but we don't talk about him
@@stevdor6146he just do it to be a silly Muppet 😂🎉😅
I mean, you've harvested without it for almost 12 years.
Bought this game 10 years ago, still playing it. look at this now! Huge kudos to the team for the 1.0!
Well done on the breakdown man. GG and welcome to v1!!
Thanks so much! Means a ton coming from you Sir given I started playing this game watching your vids!
@@WaywardEko Holy cow. That's one of the best compliments ever. ❤
It’s always awesome to see such wholesome stuff. Especially from 2 awesome creators.
Probably the best 7DTD 1.0 overview I've seen. Kudos and many thanks to you good sir on the excellent work!
Thank so much for that! Ton of effort to get this one together!
You... got 40 FPS inside a building with a 4090... ... ... deam :L
I used to get around 20 in crackabooks HQ :)
@@WaywardEko Are you using the Boot.config edit that adds multi threading ability to Unity Engine that is not setup normally? I figured for this review you was unable to do that, but in A21 i figured you'd being using the added lines for boot.config. I noticed a pretty good performance increase across the board from that simple edit of the file. Really Curious. If you haven't I'd love to see you're results with adding it into the boot.config file found in 7d2d_data folder in the base game directory.Just add the following lines there to get the effect, doesn't affect any save data, just how the game handles mulit-threading.
gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
wait-for-native-debugger=0
scripting-runtime-version=latest
vr-enabled=0
hdr-display-enabled=0
gc-max-time-slice=3
@@drfolsom74 Sounds quite good, but it might cause side effects. I don't think those performance bonuses would come without a trade-off.
@@lionheart4109 I absolutely do, TFP are just one of the worst devs out there.
@@drfolsom74 good info!
Started a 1.0 play through and as soon as I saw the new bridge POI I KNEW I was making a crafting base on one and it came out pretty cool
Awesome!
Very well put together video and great editing! Thanks for the breakdown on what's coming to 1.0 :)
Thanks kindly Sir!! Hope you are well!
I’m playing this game on ps5 and wow I love it! It was kinda worth the wait
ive waited over 6 years for this. started playing in alpha 14 and got put in nearly almost 2000 hours on console and pc combined. With every update, this game gets closer to what ive wished it was. Im glad the The Fun Pimps were able to reaquire the rights to console development and have a fair release with both platforms. Cheers to 1.0 🍻
R.I.P. alpha.
There were times that I loved you and times that I hated you, (clipping me and my full mini bike though the ground.)
But lots of memories were made. I can't wait to begin the new ones in 1.0.
Sooo many memories.
i love how to "optimize" they just lower the amount of detail of some poi's instead of actual optimization 15-30 fps on a 4090 is crazy...
Fairly logical move - space out the high performance hog assets. Dishing and Higashi next door was always a poor design choice.
@@WaywardEko I'll explain in three short ways their actual largest issues aside the usual "architecture bad too complicated/immature" insanity am biased towards. They don't object pool, they don't paralell for anything with the job system like they should be, and they don't utilize a proper custom pathfinding backend to help reduce physics casting and all the other insanity their paid for version does. They have an attitude problem that's the true issue though, to fix these kinds of things takes a different mindset than usual indies have. They need to want to self improve. I think with some training assuming they were actually open to it, if they were open to actual wisdom sharing even, they could totally turn it around in a couple years. But this has been a long drawn out thing am least personally not optimistic, but hey if they manage to change absolutely kudo on them.
@@duncanshania Agreed, TFP are one of the worst dev teams out there. 7 Days is just as succesful as it is because it was one of the first titles of this kind being thrown into the gaming world, mixing the Minecraft Hype with Undead Survival and, in relation to minecraft, better graphics.
Imagine what would happen if 7DTD wouldn't have existed as an Early Access, they would've developed it to what it is now in private and would release it now as 1.0. on Steam... the game would hugely flop compared to the competition, get torn apart in reviews and just utterly fail.
But most players bought it back then, have pulled in friends to play with them over the years, so the costs are already sunk, so the players might as well play it. That is how they get their playerbase.
Ffs, they didn't even integrate Steam Workshop Support!
No new sound for the 4x4...so glad that there are mods.
Great video, all the important intel and super smooth and engaging to watch!
I’m so excited to watch the streamers this weekend! Have fun!
Out of Alpha and Into Beta! We are making progress!
Not beta, they treating it like an official 1.0 release.
@@SirMcMuffin alpha, beta, bla bla.. those used to mean something but now it's just marketing terms.
@@SirMcMuffin Yet its still not done. We've still got a weather system, bandits, steam mod support, story/npcs. I guess I won't consider it 1.0 until its actually done :P
@@mikeriley2475 another 10 years prolly... but hey, modders gonna do their job with more enthusiasm now, since it's 1.0. Steam mod support should've been the center of gravity tho....
@@mikeriley2475 I agree, labeling it as 1.0 is a mistake especially with missing features they held back and promised.
Me being on console I'm so happy with the new 1.0
7 days is my all time favorite crafting survival game
was so cool to see this on the steam page. well freaking done Eko. thank you so much
Thanks Frost!!
That fps is a joke. This is my favorite game ever and it's my biggest disappointment ever
I actually think my performance in alpha 20 running darkness falls is better lmfao
It's not funny though :)
Definitely looking forward to coming back to 7D2D. Thank you for the great overview. Always enjoyed your videos.
Quite welcome and enjoy!!
I hate when games force me to wear gear that makes it more beneficial to do certain tasks. I spend too much of my time switching and managing my inventory (the most boring aspects of the game) every time I wanna do something. As oppose to a learnt skill that's always active once I've meet the requirements. If you spend a lot of time harvesting wood wouldn't you learn over time how to make better use of the tools thus optimizing your resources which not only makes sense but allows you to focus on the tasks at hand and enjoying the game. Rather then I wanna do something but I'm not sure if I'm wearing my correct outfit. At best having the outfits with bonuses for your fighting style would be fine but for harvesting and the like it's a nuisance.
They came by the magical streak naturally: modding Bethesda games. :) There was never any concrete separation between the Elder Scrolls and Fallout franchises at Bethesda, which liberally reuses code from one franchise's game when developing a new one for another. (There's even a reference to the Pip-Boy light in Skryim's code indicating what you see onscreen as a Skryim torch.) Ergo, armor and weapon "enchantments" and "legendaries" in Bethesda's Fallouts, which have in turn inspired the armor enchantments we're now seeing in 7 Days to Die.
I'd prefer a postapolayptic world be more realistically postapocalyptic myself, but...Bethesda. :)
To be fair, if I'm going to chop wood I'm going to wear a different outfit than if I was going to try to sneak around a zombie-infested facility or do gardening or go on a road trip or w/e. So, it's not completely unrealistic, but it's still annoying.
Well, you can complain about a lot of things, but about a realistic approach to clothing, you don't go to Mount Everest in Bermuda shorts either, so please, yes this example is exaggerated. But nevertheless, clothing has its purpose & that's a good thing, if it's too complex for you then just play something else. Always this crying about games these days, oh I don't like this, oh I don't like that wäh wäh wäh 🤨
No one is FORCING you ... that is a personal choice to min max. I had early access and have around 100 hours in on 1.0 and only on a handful of times have I switched outfits for a bonus and I'm thriving on Survivalist w/ 64 zeds. Lots of people speaking hyperbolic. In regards to magical armor giving bonuses ... those have been part of the game. How about cigars that make you stronger ... or help you barter ... this stuff has always been there.
That's why i love darkness falls (and how it was way way back in alpha 14 or 15?) where if you mine, you upgrade your mining skills. If you use shotguns, you upgrade your shotgun skill. I have no clue why they won't use this, but instead introduced annoying magazines that forces you to loot (or buy them). Not to mention it's easily cheesable by going through a big city and only looting mailboxes and buildings that got bookshelves.
Great job, Eko! Can't wait to see everything else you have coming down the pipeline. See you during Streamer Weekend!
See you there!
35 fps on a 4090 yikes
In 4K, I heard the game can't run any good if you go over 1080p for some reason
@@infernaltourist9601 still bad considering there is no ray tracing and I dont believe it supports dlss unless i missed something. Granted, this is beta, but that still really poorly optimized
@@demonkingrigaldo-2456 Yup, I mean there are the reflections but they aren't like ray traced, right?
@@infernaltourist9601there's more to it than the graphics that are making the game demanding, for example the destructible environment and ai which is usually cpu demanding
@@infernaltourist9601 From my understanding, it is not
Okay, now I'm really hyped for 1.0. The fact the our trader progression doesn't get reset when we go to a new trader is game changing for me. I usually didn't care unless I start with Rekt or Hugh, I just continued on. Being able to start at T2 when go to Jen and etc. is going to be so sweet. Amazing Vid Eko. Thanks for the updated info
Quite welcome and enjoy!!!
@@WaywardEko Additionally, we won't be able farm out various traders for all the completion rewards anymore, which is another welcome nerf/change in my eyes. :)
@@DarkSunGameplay Oooh good point, wonder how many people have missed that.
My God I love everything about this update! This is the best game ever created.
i’m so happy to see this getting an update
I feel like the dew collector gettin murky water is kinda a positive too. Like you need it for glue, and normally you cant really get too much murky. I at least am always low on duct tape.
duct tape requires clean water now. It's still nice that it is super easy to make.
@@WaywardEko Oh i didnt hear of that change. Well boiling the water aint hard and its way cheaper now
@@Azeliniana the cloth costs of things is a bit obnoxious in A21 though. First 2-3 weeks is hording cloth like crazy to have enough. and then it becomes a non-issue after that.
But water/glue/duct tape is a bit of a grind too, yeah.
I use a mod which takes the heatmap generation away from dew collectors, that helps game balance substantially.
i wonder if we still swallow the bottle together with the water or the bottle stays 🤔
@@VeNuS2910 You swallow the glass bottles and chomp the tin cans, no one is allowed to reuse/recycle empty container
Fun to see that they finaly added the bandit npc's..... ohh wait they dident
TFPs have always said Bandits was something they wanted to add but they never gave a timetable for it happening. Bandits are now on the Roadmap that they released. If they don’t add them Q2 2025, I think then it would be fair to complain about the Bandits not making it to game.
* But I must add that there is always that warning that this is an estimate and the timeline is subject to change.
Hahaha, maybe next alpha.. wait.. OH NO!
We will get there ... one day ... hopefully.
Oddly, to me at least, what I'm most excited for is the remnant buildings. I loved the dungeon style POIs when they were introduced but that's all we get now. While the one the large office building at the beginning of Dev Stream 3 is nice, I hope we get some POI homes to explore that aren't pathed out and are more of the pre-alpha 17 variety.
I think these have HUGE potential.
Yeah they look awesome, and will be nice to explore some big buildings that aren't crazy hard! I always like checking the new pois.
Trader dialogue should fit the situation example it’s the morning the trader would say lovely day to kill some zombies 😊
I talked about how they are wiring that up -- they will also respond to weather and other actions.
I'm really hoping the new trader dialogue considers that not ALL players are male this time!
Honestly, given how irritating several of the traders are (voice acting wise), I wish it were an option to outright kill them and then be able to loot 100% of their store (including any hidden rooms and vending machines etc.). And I'm not usually the type of player to do this. But it'd be a way to get faster starting gear but nerf how easy the future of the game would be (since you'd no longer be able to trade with them ever again), and there could be an Option as to whether the other traders learn about this / get more security or whatever.
It should be a deliberate thing, though. Not something where you accidentally happened to shoot them -- that's gonna happen, if allowed -- but where you'd have to deliberately get back there and finish them off, and had the option to patch them up instead.
As someone who plays this since the first alpha version I can tell the new character textures are a HUGE improvement.
So much nicer .. especially when playing MP.
Great video! I'm not thrilled with one-piece outfits. I want to go shirtless. The new models and skins are awesome, looks great. I'm gonna miss that old yellow cruiser bike. Best POI builders in the biz.
I really like a lot of changes that were done, the game’s been ironed out a lot more and I’m happy we’ve all come this far. However, in my opinion I’m not a fan of the new armour system. I liked being able to mix and match clothes, but now it feels limited to set outfits not to mentioned you’re gonna have to change your clothes all the time to do certain things.
Over a month in I only change out my armor from time to time for specialized tasks. I think once we get wardrobes we won't really notice as much.
since Day 1 I was like this is a fun game, even when it was a bit off kilter here and there with the added updates. Thank you so much for keeping it going and never stop digging away at it all
Not sure the performance "gains" are worth mentioning. You have a rig much better than most (55%+GPU & 87%+CPU) people on the STEAM charts and more if you were to also consider consoles. You have a top end machine and that's before consider your ddr5 and ssd speeds.
Before we anyone says to give credit where credit is due put into perspective you demanded a raise for work and so your boss said sure and you went from $20.00/hr to $20.01/hr but hey you got your raise....😅
Other than that thanks for the video
I believe this is also with basic settings, without mods, for any files. Simple fps fix with boot.config file change will normally net a pretty good increase in fps, which he was probably not able to run with this due to constraints in place for testing or review purposes. Now once you have the files themselves, I highly suggest edit of boot.config to add in the info to turn on multi-threading in Unity engine there. It boosts fps due to sharing workload of the GPU to the CPU cores which isn't defaulted on in Unity without being called for in the boot.config. The boot.config file is located in the 7d2d_data folder or was. Assuming it's still in same general location. Also, assuming that Unity 2022 engine will allow even more performance gains though multi-threading, as it is a much more updated engine that previously used in 7d2d with the older unity engine. The lines to add in said file are as follows:
gfx-enable-gfx-jobs=1
gfx-enable-native-gfx-jobs=1
wait-for-native-debugger=0
scripting-runtime-version=latest
vr-enabled=0
hdr-display-enabled=0
gc-max-time-slice=3
Just edit the boot.config file in notepad and copy and paste these lines into it, then save. Once you run the game again, you should notice a performance increase. However, longer play cycles will still cause slowdowns to happen over time of play. If you play for 2-3 hours straight, it may start chunking along and stuttering. This I'm told is due to Unity's poor data resource cleanup calls. I'm not sure even modding could fix this.
With pretty heavy settings, my system manages to run current A21 at around 110-120fps in the wilderness and 70-90fps in cities. I do not have a monster system either. AMD 5600x CPU, AMD 6600xt GPU, 32gb ram. on decent SSD's. that's running the game in 1440p on a dual monitor setup. I don't turn down the in-game graphics to much either to allow for better visuals while still offering smooth gameplay.
I mentioned it mostly because it's in the patch notes and comparatively and subjectively ... it felt better in some situations. The more I've played the less it feels like much of an improvement though.
Oh my god..... Youre one of those..... You called it a rig..... Christ..... Thats like having a porn stache and mullet today......
I only have about 50 hours or so can't wait to jump back in!
Great video that makes me even more excited to get to 1.0. Thanks for always delivering such a well-polished product!
Quite welcome and thanks for the support wendy!!!!
Annoyed AF that so many fanboys refuse to admit this "1.0" is not a real 1.0. It's just a half finished game that they are shoving out the door for what could be several reasons. Seeing as I already own it I will give it a go and see how good or bad it is. If it's bad I will just walk away and play something else.
Meh ... it's a name and one required for them to release to console. I don't care what the name is ... just the features.
The actual 1.0 is releasing at the end of 2025 providing they don't delay the roadmap they showed
It's really suspicious lol
Tbf, this is only a beta build of the 1.0 update. So, in theory, a lot will change by July 25th
Are bandits even in the game yet? To me it's crazy with how many features were promised nearly some decade ago that haven't seen light. All features promised to be in the game's official release.
I'm going to be honest, I don't believe for a moment this is because they believe this is worthy of a 1.0. It's because they're probably in financial trouble again and a 1.0 release will temporarily give them some cash flow from console players. This is the same reason they released for Xbox One and PlayStation 4 back in the day. Look how that ended up.
@@Pooples123 Then they shouldn't have hyped it up as a 1.0 update.
This is an incredible looking video! All the info, visuals, pacing, categories.. just amazing! Thank you!
Thank you soooo much for that!
Holy Frijoles! The new character customization is amazeballs!! I like a LOT of the new changes and am excited to dive in! Though I still miss Trader Hugh's frontier fort-style outpost.
Massive shift for sure! I hope we get more options over time, but it's a great step up. Making thumbnails is much more fun for me now!
No npcs as promised in their kickstarter? Its a shame companies are getting the shit sued out of them for ignoring kick starter promises
Lolol
mayyybe we should look at the roadmap, pretty sure NPC's were labelled at 2025
@@elfthecredited7602 NPC were promised years ago tbh XD. i believe in 2025 same as that this game will be optimalized one day
@@skyworld5619 Yeh but people are losing their minds over NPC's not being included in 1.0 but they produced a roaadmap that gave a date they were aiming to get them out .. which is in 2025
people just need to have some patience
On the roadmap.
Ahhhh the time has come! I am soooo excited! Thank you fun pimps and thanks Eko!
finally a good gore system and AMAZING VIDEO
thanks so much - the gore is amazing!
Face 1 is Ryan from the office!
Indeed!
The mountain lion now looks like a lynx.😂
True
As someone who has only played the console version before this is a TOTALLY complete different game and I’m all for it!
So much new stuff for you!
Loving the bit on the Raider license plate, very clever! My brother and I laughed for a good while about it!
I am so excited to play this on console finally! I may take a few days off from work just to play this.
I love it, the best is be able to upgrade the storage and have another seat for vehicles :)
I'm with you on the storage upgrade.
This was an excellent Showcase. 10/10. Would share with my friends.
Please do!
"Legendary parts can only be found in T5 POIs or as T5 and T6 quest rewards."
Me opening a random bag in a T2 POI: Oooh, some legendary parts!
Yeah -- they let me know right as I was finishing the vid. Small chance of finding them after gamestage 15.
@@WaywardEko interestingly, I don't remember that being in the patch notes, so we were all a little surprised.
Can't wait to play ittt!!! I've started playing 7 Days many many years ago, seeing the game has evolved this far over the years is truly nostalgic and a fun experience!
Only bandits are missing.
Great breakdown, so pumped for this. Been awhile since I've been looking forward to a game as much as this.
Thanks kindly!
I'm really going to miss the hodgepodge of clothing. I'm sure it's easier to model this way, but that was a lot of the fun with the game. Especially when your beefy bearded friend finds a pink skirt that's better than what they had before and they pop it on for the stats.
Yeah ... me too ... early game hobo lifestyle has always been hilarious.
In order to play efficiently youll have to have these full sets ready to go at different places around your base and that sounds tedious.
You don't always have to min max ... got by just fine without doing so.
Thank you guys for this awesome update !!! Great work as always ! :3
Thanks so much!
When I started this game, I was in middle school and played with my dad. Now I’m a high school senior and my father is no longer a part of my life, and wow what a journey it’s been. So excited to explore these new features.
So many adventures and memories along the way for sure.
For T6 gear u actually can find it in air drops I believe as well as t6 loot cache from quests
Yup - they added some of that in after I put this together!
great video, great summary. Clear, concise, and detailed. Can't wait to get my hands on it on Monday! 🙂
Thanks Sir!! See you in Monday!
one the most solid updates iv seen for a game, well done fun pimps
also you can drink from bodies of water so use a bucket and bring some to base, but you still need to collect water for crafting.
They should add monster-specific loot, and loot-types, randomly-generated ofc, for example Soldier and Demolisher would be the best chance of getting grenades; rockets; explosive-ammo etc. and some very rare chance of getting rocket-launcher; M60 etc.
Would love that ... the Dishong Tower Challenge does this.
Half expected the Ranger male to tell me about another settlement that needs my help.
hahhah nice
I’d also love to see another tier of traps. Like reinforced traps. So they take less damage, maybe deal more damage too. I just feel like late game especially the blade traps and electric traps break so fast.
I'd love to see more traps in general! Blade traps for me are only helpful if they are close enough for me to repair during horde night.
@@WaywardEko yeah exactly! And the bundles give us 10 (which I still think is waaaay too many. Though I won’t complain lol) but if you actually use 10, they’re going to break. So my guess is they give us 10 intending us to use a couple at a time? Idk. But they should have stronger versions atleast, that perhaps require twice as many resources, and you can’t get them as rewards or in loot. Only craftable if you have them unlocked. And they take way less damage so they last all night without issue.
Is 1.0 releasing to the public at 12:00am on June 24th?
Or 12pm June 24th?
pm
It's content creators like you, GunsNerdsandSteel, Glock09, and of course, Neebs Gaming that got me into this game! This was a treat to watch and be informed since next week my friends are going into experimental! :D
Thanks so much and sorry for late response ... still playing catchup!
This game has come a long way.. last time I played it was on PS4 back in 2016 and here I am preparing for PS5 release next month. Shout out to the fun pimps for never giving up on this game and constantly improving it I love you guys so much for updating it! So here’s to you fun pimps. Here’s to the console release, here’s to the new memories I’ll make with my friends next month, and more importantly.. here’s to the wonderful bright future of 7 Days to Die! 🥂
To be clear on the trader tiers; while it does force you to go to the next biome for the trade route mission, that previous trader will still have the next tier of missions (rekt will force you to go talk to jen to get to T2 but rekt will have t2 missions same as jen). This is big because this won't entirely force you to move your base every time you tier up or move away from friends who are still working on lower tiers.
You can also find legendary parts for that T6 crafting surprisingly early on (on a standard loot server I found one in a treehouse on at most a tier 2 lot in the pine forest with only the helmet mod that gives +loot so my loot stage was still pretty low).
Yup they corrected legendary parts ... have to be above gamestage 15
awesome video, thanks eko! cant wait to see what you bring to the streamer weekend.
Thank you soooo much Luna!
I am happy. They are out of Alpha but at the same time I’m excited for beta. Had so many good memories in the alpha version.
We all did for sure!
love the better performance segment!
sarcasm asides it's looking pretty good, big fan of the less linear armor system and introductory system
Yeah ... performance leaves something to be desired.
Im seeing some 30 frames of 4090, dude you were getting like maybe 15 tops on those late hord nights. This update is absolutly insane I CANNOT wait to play this today!
In that base I was happy with the frames ... that base has multiple solar arrays, batteries, miles of wiring, etc.
Thanks Eko! Great overview, well done! 👍
Thanks kindly!!
Thanks for the video! Been playing 7D2D since 2015, absolutely love it and can't wait for the 1.0 release on Monday.
Quite welcome! Thanks for commenting!
1:24 look where you shoot was a thing in 1996 quake lol
awww Quake :)
the trader quest rewards not being op is a massive progression change for the better.
Couldn't agree more.
I've missed this game so much. I love how it's finally gonna be v1.0 but i hope they fulfill their promise of optimizing it 😂
meeee too.
I can't wait to stream this tomorrow :D
Awesome overview! Very informative. It is sounding more cool than I thought and my concerns about the discarding of clothing are reduced quite a bit. I suspect that modders will figure out ways to "re-incorporate" most or all of the old items back into use somehow interesting too . . .
Have heard some of the more cynical content creators express unsurprisingly cynical views on this update; but listening to this it sounds like lots of good stuff.
I went out of my way on this one to not share my opinions ... for the most part I tried to just show what's there. Being honest ... the progression is the best thing to come to this game. It will feel VERY different and is more of a challenge.
i have been playing this since early access release and i gotta say i am so fucking excited.
It makes me very happy to see all the changes that are going to be made, and that Alpha is finally being left aside
If they fixed performance when their is a ton of zombies, they could get rid of horde nights and people could just have a TON of zombies in the map. 15FPS on a 4090 is crazy.
No horde nights would kinda wreck the entire premise.
@@WaywardEko Not really, id like to refortify an existing location and always be under threat of attracting a horde. I'd just like the horde night amount of zombies around my base at all times so Id actually have to stealth around in gameplay. Like project zombiod.
20:00 a rig like that getting 20fps is insanity
I couldn't agree more.
1,5k hours in alpha and counting. I have been playing since day 1. Thank you guys. My only complain is the skill progression with magazines and books. My OCD wants me to progress my skills by doing them.
I'm with you on that one!!!
I started on the console version, when minibikes were a new thing. I can't believe how far we've come.
Oh how things have changed over the years.
July 25 1.0 console I'm ready super excited I can't wait to play
First game I've ever seen that had a planned story progression that said, "nah, lets release 1.0 without that pesky story progression." They even said 1-2 versions ago that they wouldn't consider the game for release until the story part (plus bandits) was finished. Looks like that aged well huh?
If I had a nickel for every time TFP planned something and changed their minds ...
Thank you so much for this amazing video! I've been avoiding news on 1.0 but with the release so close... I caved when this video was suggested by MoonLunaPlays. SO EXCITED!!!! Role on Monday! Thank you so much again for the fab video 🤩
Awww thanks! Luna is the bestest!!
I fucking love this. So hyped to play again now! Great video aswell!
Thanks so much!
They need to do an animation overhaul for hands, weapons, tools, Ect.
Some simple free aim sway goes a long way, throw in a few extra animations for smoother transitions to make movement feel less rigid & bam 7 ways to cry in tarkov 😂
The reload animations look a little better. And our hands show armor now! So ... that's ... something.
What I like to know is do zombies still hit you when you're 10 feet away one thing I hated was getting hit even tho I was clearly away from the zombies arm reach
Experience thus far says yes ... extendo arms still a thing
@@WaywardEko darn it I hope that gets fixed one day that's the thing that kinda blows the game for me 😔 I'll still try it out tho 😂
Nice to see the graphics still be the exact same for all these years
lots of updates but you do you.
Oh good lord. Thank you for this in-depth look at 1.0. I think I will enjoy exploring the changes even more than with the earlier alphas. I will state the clothing/armour changes don't seem to be as bad as it could have been.
Fingers crossed!
6872 hours in this game. So ya I am a fan. thanks for the info on the update.
Happy v1!!!!
The biggest draw for players right now is the multiplayer. I have gotten 3 people to play personally and everyone I know says that the main issue they have is that everyone needs to get all the magazines and it feels like being a side character in someone elses game instead of playing together. Hearing that shared quests only progress one person is a major turn off. Making a setting for shared magazines and for shared quests so its at least optional would bring a lot of players back to the game and make new players more likely to stay since they can customize preference for multiplayer. In fact this and optimization make up about 80% of the bad mojo surrounding this game and fixing the former would bring way more hype to this launch.
Adapt -- everyone doesn't need every magazine. If you are playing multiplayer ... divide and specialize. We did A MP run this Sunday and dominated using that strategy. Feed mags to a focused crafter in each area.
@@WaywardEko People usually just play casual with friends. Shared vs funneling is no different progression wise but it keeps the rest of the team from tracking progression or making their own items. It doesen't need to be a default but it needs to be a setting.
The public beta is out 😮😮😮
Congrats on being on the steam news page.
thank you so much for the details. I'm looking forward to play tomorrow. Can't wait!!!
Absolutely!