Ryobi One+ 18V 9Ah Battery Review
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One correction: I misspoke and called the reciprocating saw the P517. I was actually using the P516 model.
The Ryobi P194 offers greater power and runtime over any other Ryobi 18V One+ battery that's come before it. Using 15 Sony 18650 cells, the price point is excellent as well at $79. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The 4Ah work great for most applications, the 6Ah are great, but I'll be getting 4-6 of the 9Ah, as well. Knowing that they do provide more current under load is a very useful feature of this review. Thank you. Also did not know of the shop vac- I could certainly make use of that- will be getting one ASAP!
Wonder Bjorn if makes difference on the 1/2 impact tool. I would love to know.
Being a light DIYer I'm not springing for brushless tools. My brushed Ryobi tools have served me well. Saying this the 4Ah batteries are where it's at for me.
Great review! Thanks!
Finally the 9Ah battery review!! I was the one giving you some shit about making this video...kinda. Just troll playing you a bit, but I bought the 4-pack of these & love them! Since researching into the Ryobi line of 18v tools about a year ago now, I now went a little crazy spending money in this line. Ryobi should be very happy!
These batteries really make a huge difference in both the newer 3 & 6 gallon vacuum's & every other power hungry tool. Also the 18" chainsaw was a big difference. Like in your video, I didn't see any increase in the many drills & smaller hand tools. But then again, why would you want that giant heavy ass battery on those tools? Thanks for the video!
PS. This 9Ah really makes the P738 blower shine!!
Haha, I was really surprised no one else made a review before I did! It's been out for a few months now, but all I'd seen was an unboxing which doesn't do anyone much good.
That 9.0 and 6.0 amp hour battery Should be perfect for the brushless angle grinder and circular saw, reciprocating saw a miter saw with diablo blades!!!! It really improves the tool like crazy. I like the 4 amp hour of the drills and impact drivers since they have good run time but there not to big or to small.
9A wow that's a monster!
I'm testing a new 3320 fan with a new 6ah battery for run time ATM. I have another new 6ah batt on the charger topping off. Neither batt has been used/charged enough times to reach peak capacity so the test/s will continue into tomorrow and Friday. I may consider one or even two 9ah batts to keep in a bag with the fan for jobsites with no electric service which happens occasionally and I turn to mush with no air moving on warm-to-hot days. I *need* a spot where I can cool down.
I have 2 of the 9ah and I love it it’s very powerful happy holidays
theCAR GUY I ran it yesterday for about 20 minutes straight on a 9ah battery when I stopped the battery had 1/2 a charge but when I let it sit for about 5 minutes it went up to 3/4 of battery so idk but the 9ah is very impressive
Good job I was trying to decide between the 6.0 and the 9.0 for my 3 gallon shop vacuum cleaner and my drain auger since Home Depot has a pair of ryobi 9.0 batteries for 179.00 it’s a no brainer but I saw a 4 pack for 301.00 dollars a couple months ago but I didn’t want to spend 300 plus dollars for just batteries. This is easier on my wallet. Thanks for your advice I appreciate it 😅
Excellent price, well bought 👍
Wow I can't wait to get a couple I have full Ryobi range and used proffestional work, grinder,mitre saw, cylinder saw all have issues with 4ah and them 9ers hopefully sort out especially the mitre saw.
Oh IM in Germany and 179e here ,so wish I was in USA.
Please have you found much improvement in 18v chainsaw? And 80$ for real
Thanks for such details review, it’s very helpful. One thing confuses me is their new p192 4AH HP battery, since the 6AH has same amount of cells of the p108 with heat sink, does that mean p192 just removed the heat sink?
The P192 probably has the same guts as the 3Ah HP battery, just with 2Ah cells instead of the 1.5Ah cells that the 3Ah battery has. The 6Ah battery likely needs the extra heat sink capability since in general the higher the Ah cells used, the lower the maximum discharge rate without overheating.
I built a VERY THICK torchlight with Ryobi 18V one+, ultra low light runtime test about 140 hrs with 9AH
Literally light for days! 😄
Is there a video about it?
@@DoresoomReviews I bet they cost a lot of money .
@@DoresoomReviews how do you like their tool s .
Consider, when testing the reciprocating saw to place the same weight on the collar so you can take away your variable pressure on the test. Good video!
Good idea.
How about comparing 4ah. the P108 vs the new P192?!
I suspect the new 4Ah HP battery will be very similar in performance to the 3Ah and 6Ah HP batteries. I tested those out here vs the P108:
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Thanks for your review. These are available in UK now works out about $190 for one. Do you know the run time if this is used in the 3 gallon extractor?
I'd expect 36 minutes of runtime for the 3 gallon vac on a 9Ah battery. That's an extrapolation from the runtime test I did with the 4Ah battery though.
@@DoresoomReviews Thanks for getting back to me.
great i dont even have a 3, been wanting a 4 till the 6 came out now this,,, FML
Carbonite Gamorrean milwaukee has a 12ah now haha. These batteries are getting HUGE. Especially the ones using 21700 cells instead of 18650 cells.
Thanks for the hard work.
Maybe consider doing a direct current draw test?
I thought about it, but I'd have to spoof the tool's interaction with the battery on that second set of contacts. So first I'd have tp read those voltages during tool operation while it's under load, and then replicate it to measure max current draw, and unfortunately I don't have the equipment to do that.
Holy power for days
Thanks again! You really added value to Ryobi. Side question regarding the circular saw. I'm using the same saw with the stock blade. The issue is, it's cutting slightly slanted. I checked to ensure the blade is aligned. Do you think it's possible that the blade is bending and I should probably switch it out for a diablo blade? Thanks!
It's possible it's the blade, but I wouldn't rule out the saw itself. Is it the bevel that's not square? I found that the P508 saw actually changes the angle of the bevel a little when you raise and lower the blade. It could be square when you've got it set to full depth, but off square when you raise the blade for a shallower cut.
Doresoom Tool Reviews damn you’re the man. I’m betting that’s what it is. I’ll double check. Thanks for your response! I’ll be following your success on TH-cam friend.
If the blade is dull it will deflect more and cut poorly including a crooked cut
How about the test with fresh charge every time every test
Is that a good deal for the Ryobi 6gallon cordless vacuum with 9ah battery and charger $159.00 ? And do you know what kind of runtime you would get with that setup ?
Yeah that's a pretty good deal. The battery goes for $80 if you catch it on sale and the vac goes for $100, plus you get a free charger thrown in. I can't speak to runtime, since I don't own that vacuum, but the new 9Ah gives better runtime and power to most tools.
Hey I was wondering what fence/guide you were using for that circular saw? Is it ryobi? If so, do you have a part number?
It's the Kreg Rip Cut: amzn.to/3TOAWuQ
I reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/XHMp-8pqW0w/w-d-xo.html
Just got 2 of these. Is it hard to press the button on the fuel gauge or are both of mines defective? I have about 15 batteries and none of them are like this.. I have to press very hard using my nails for the light to show up, doesn't work using my fingertips...
It shouldn't be that hard to press the fuel gauge.
Have you tested the power inverter with this battery?
I don't have the inverter, sorry.
Thanks for the excellent review. Very detailed. More than other reviewers. I didnt know about the extra contactspots on the the battery that only work with the brushless tools. Great work. Thumbs up.
I have a question ! Will the new 6amp or 9amp batteries work with the brushless 10in miter saw looking forward to your response thanks ......
I don't own the cordless miter saw myself, but its product description on Home Depot lists it can make 800 cuts with the P194 batteries, which is the 9Ah product number. If the 9Ah fits, then the 6Ah will definitely fit too.
Doresoom Tool Reviews .... Thankyou very for the help and reponse great channel !!!!
Hello there..another great review you have done...it would nice to see a comparison between the 4 ah 6 ah and 9ah batteries using Ryobi brushless jet blower...performance and run time on full boost...I think that would make a good test...
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't have the brushless jet blower to test the batteries on.
Hi Nate, I found it interesting that you didn't find a difference in brushed tool performance between the 6Ah and the 4Ah battery. With all of the brushed tools I have, the 6Ah, and even the 3Ah battery have more initial power than the 4Ah. This is with all batteries fully charged and all brand new batteries.
As a side note, that 3-gallon vacuum is one of my favorite Ryobi tools. That's not to say that it is perfect, I would like to see a brushless motor for better efficiency and power, a longer hose, better placement of the power switch, a HEPA filter and a deeper battery well so that the larger batteries do not extend beyond the top of the vac. I've had my 6-gallon Ryobi vacuum for several months now and have yet to use it even one time.
It's possible I didn't push the reciprocating saw hard enough to make a difference in my original 4Ah vs 6Ah testing. That's why I doubled up the 2x8 in this one. With the shop vac there was definitely no difference, and it didn't seem like there was with all the brushed blowers I tried it on. It's possible the fans and vacs don't load the motor down enough to make a difference, although the P102 doesn't supply as much power to them as the P108, so I thought we might see an extra kick from the HP batteries.
I do love that little 3 gallon shop vac. I agree about your upgrade ideas too - I've bumped off the power switch by accident a few times myself!
It's still an 18v battery. 6Ah isn't going to deliver more power to a brushed tool, it's just going to increase the runtime.
@doresoom any idea how long it will run the fan for?
Sorry I don't have the fan so I can't test it. It's not very high current draw so I would suspect it's pretty much straight linear per amp hour. So you should be able to extrapolate from whatever batteries you do have.
If you're talking about the little green one I ran it on high for 7hrs straight with a regular 4ah battery. Brought it to work at my office and timed it. So I'm guessing this 9ah+HP will run it about 16 to 17hrs
Any idea when this will be available in UK?
No, sorry.
So what batteries will work best for the P770 6 gallon and P1978N 3 gallon shop vac because thats only ryobi tools using ?
I'd go with the 6Ah or 9Ah for either of the vacuums - whichever battery you can get the cheapest per Ah. They will stick up above the flat top of the 3 gallon though.
@@DoresoomReviews Ok thanks just ordered one 3 gallon and a 6 gallon vacuum and it came with a 3 ah battery so will need to get a 6ah or a 9ah battery
Would love to see how one of these works on one of the older cordless weed trimmers.
Sorry, I've just got the brushless trimmer.
The give the ol blue tools a hot supper.
Looks like it won't be long before we will be putting car batteries on them.
Lol
I sure that Ryobi reads your reviews so I would like to add one more
thing that I really like about the 3-gallon vacuum that I wish the
6-gallon vacuum had is the 90 degree connection at the canister end of
the vacuum. The 90 degree connection really makes the 3-gallon vac
compact whereas on the 6-gallon vac the hose sticks out too far from the
canister.
It may be that the 90° elbow cuts down on overall CFM, so they only put it on the more compact of the two options. It would still be a nice option for the 6 gallon though.
@@DoresoomReviews Maybe, but there is a 90 on the _inside_ of the canister. If the 90 were on the top of the canister, you could eliminate the elbow on the inside of the tank. plus you could probably wrap the hose around the tank without having to remove it. Just food for thought.
Add brushless to your list!
@@charlietuna5962I have in other posts.
@@Pro1er I know, just meant to add to this list. For an ALL in One+ comment ;-)
So I have the 9AH and thought it would be great for the hand held vacuum. It turns out it REALLY does help boost the suction power tremendously BUUUUUT in this instance might be too much power for the hand held vacuum. I switched back to the 3 AH and the motor seems to not scream as much in protest with that battery.
It's important to match the proper battery to the tool.
Cheers.
That doesn't make any sense. What that tells me is that your smaller battery is loosing voltage perhaps due to age. The only way that the vacuum will run faster is to provide more voltage.
@@Pro1er and more voltage its getting with the 9ah battery. When you pull a lot of current from a small battery there will be a drop in the voltage and current. With the 9ah there will be much less drop and for longer.
@Rxonmymind:
The vacuum motor runs on 18V, its what turns it ON and makes it spin. The ah is just how LONG it will run. There is something wrong with your 3ah battery
@@practicalguy973 I was going to repeat exaclty what your saying here, yep.
The vacuum is too noisy imo
I bought a 18v ryobi leaf blower.. it came with the 4ah battery but it takes 2 full charges just to do my front yard which is actually a small yard.. would a higher AH battery give me longer performance??
Thanks
Yes, the main benefit to higher Ah batteries is longer runtime. I'd expect a 9Ah battery to last over twice as long as a 4Ah.
@@DoresoomReviews thank you ill be looking into getting one.. I’ll probably buy another blower in the future.. non battery operated
Thanks again for the quick reply!
When are you gonna do the 12Ah & 16Ah batteries?? I heard they Melt the tools motors!! New for 2020??........ Just playin'.... I have a question maybe you can answer that I can't for the life of me find anywhere? OK I am now almost all in with the Ryobi tools line since all the special deals at Christmas from HD.
I am no Pro, but would a newer 3Ah HP battery with the extra Terminals in a "Brushless Tool" last as long as a 4Ah without the two metal terminals that "Talk" to the tool to hold back on power or give it more when needed be almost equal in time?
This is what I am a little confused on. So case in point, is it just Full On power with the 4Ah P108 or better/smarter 3Ah HP that is supposed to deal with power issues better? I hope this makes sense? If not, why bother with the 3Ah batteries at all? Still enjoying all the 9Ah I bought!! Thanks again.
I can't find it now, but when they first released the 3Ah and 6Ah batteries Ryobi had made an inforgraphic about how many more screws/holes/cuts per Ah the new batteries could get. I do think the HP batteries with extra contacts are more efficient, but now I can't find specific numbers, and haven't done extensive testing myself either.
I wonder if they will come out with a 12.0 amp hour one next like Milwaukee.
I think it will be at least 3-4 years before then, since that was the gap between M18 9Ah and when they released the Ryobi 9Ah. Plus if Ryobi moves to 21700 cells, they'll have to wait for the price to drop as they become more common.
Oh okay I see thanks for the information!
Doresoom Tool Reviews will this battery work with the original green ryobi drills?
Can I use the battery for Ryobi 18v ONE+ grass trimmer
Yes, all Ryobi 18V batteries work with all Ryobi 18V tools. I've used this exact battery with the brushless string trimmer myself.
I would like to see the power/service time for the 18v lawn mower.
I don't have the 18V mower to test it on, but I've heard you can't fit two of the 9Ah in it, and the cover won't close either.
@@DoresoomReviews
Thank you for responding. I actually called Ryobi, and they confirmed exactly what you said. You can't fit the 6 or 9 AH 18+ One batteries in the 18 V lawn mower, just for the reasons you stated. The cover won't close.
@@DoresoomReviews, By the way, he did say that the 6 & 9 AH batteries will fit into the lawn mower, just fine. It's just that the dust cover won't close shut.
I have the 4ah batteries and I don't really feel the need for anything bigger, plus the extra weight is a little much for long days.
They make 4Ah HP batteries now too, which will give you more power with the same weight and comparable runtime.
How does it improve performance?? It's increased capacity not voltage?
There are a couple different ways it improves performance:
1) More internal cells in parallel let it discharge more current, which provides more power to the tool.
2) Better quality internal cells that can discharge current at a higher rate.
3) For brushless tools, there's an extra set of contacts that allow the HP batteries to communicate with the tool to increase efficiency and power output when necessary.
More cells means higher discharge rate. In other words bigger packs can generate more amps which is whats important for power. Higher voltages can be more efficient, but aren't necessarily any more powerful. There are plenty of 18v cordless tools that outperform some 120v corded tools. A simple way of thinking about it is that voltage is like the speed and amps are the power. If you are comparing it to calcuting momentum, you could think of amps like weight and voltage like speed. A fast object can still have low momentum if it doesnt have enough mass. The same goes for electricity. High voltage could have very low power if it has no amps behind it. Tasers for example can be literally millions of volts, but they are at such low power (a TINY fraction of an amp) that they aren't powerful enough to kill you. A hairdryer on the other hand is only 120v, nothing in comparison, but since its at a higher amp rate it still has more than enough power to kill a person. I know this is old but i hope that helps someone reading this.
9 is the only way to go can use it all day without recharge but its little heavy and $$$ but it's worth it
Just ordered 4 - 9ah+HP from Home Depot for $200....how's that for a deal!!??
Crazy good deal!
Thank you for this wonderful video.. I would like to know the duration of charging the Ryobi drill battery, which has a capacity of 1.5 Ampere, in the first time and in the following times .. My heartfelt greetings
It depends on which charger you use. The P117 should do it in 30 minutes: th-cam.com/video/cmu_tBBPfbI/w-d-xo.html
I’m don’t know what variety of 18650 cells are used in these batteries, but they don’t all have the same output, not just amp-hours, but also fast output. In the 40V batteries for example, the 2ah batteries are the higher output, vs the 4ah batteries. Sure, the 4ah batteries last longer, but if you use one with the chainsaw it will give anemic performance, while the 2ah batteries do much better.
Huh, that's really odd behavior with the 40V batteries. BTW, you can look up cell type for Ryobi's batteries using the SDS posted on the product page on HD's website.
@@DoresoomReviews re: cell type listed in the SDS - that’s great to know, thank you for the tip!
Can you use 9Ah for the chainsaw?
Yes
My brushless trimmer, full throttle, the 9ah can't handle it. The 6ah Batts can tho. Very strange. I have a pair of each
Specifically, 9ah cut out. I think a bank of cells inside are getting below the voltage cutoff and others arent
That is strange! Agree, seems like something's wrong with the 9Ah. Unless maybe the middle row of cells is getting overheated since the other two are surrounding them with their heat output.
The only question now is WHAT TOOK RYOBI SO LONG TO COME OUT WITH THIS 9.0 BATTERY?
cant have been soon ago, mine is dated 2018
Hmm, I was looking at the 9Ah, but I saved abit of money by going for a pack of 2x5Ah batteries instead (they were roughly 100 NOK cheaper than the 9Ah, estimated US$ 10,50). I guess if anyone want/need to stock up on expensive batteries and have the money to spend, then why not? The bigger question is; if you have a large budget and use the tools for hours and hours every single day, would you buy Ryobi?
I run a small business and use nothing but Ryobi 18 volt tools. I know Milwaukee makes great stuff, but literally none of my cheaper Ryobi stuff has ever broken or been inefficient. To me, the bigger question is...why would you spend twice the $ for the Milwaukee platform when the Ryobi line does so well. Is it better than Milwaukee? No. Is Milwaukee twice as good as Ryobi? No. I bought a 9 AH ryobi battery on Father's day for 79 bucks. I CANNOT run it down in anything I use. I still have drills from when they were blue. They just keep working!
@@jamestodd945 $79? 😳 You made a great deal there! Over here they sell for roughly $210.
As for the tools, I havn't had mine for long enough to have a personal opinion about the longevity yet, but they sure do work as intended for my use. If they in addition last as long as you claim, then noone is happier than I am.
So you mean to tell me you did this testing without charging the batteries each time so you would know what the actual performance was? What was the point of a performance tests if you can accomplish charging the batteries for each test! All the batteries are 18 V only difference is the amp hours do you know what an amp hour is?
Do you stop work every few minutes to charge your tools' batteries? Of course not! I ran a test that reflected real-world use case. Sure, the output power will drop off a little as the batteries are drained, but that happens during regular use too.
If it wasn't clear in the video, the 9Ah has more cells in parallel, which allows for it to output more current than the 6Ah. The Ah rating is for energy storage capacity, but the cell type and configuration affects tool performance, not just runtime.
does the 9ah battery only work with brushless tools?
It works with all Ryobi One+ tools, brushed and brushless. The reciprocating saw and the vacuum in this video are brushed, the circular saw and the drill are brushless. There may be a few tools like the 18V lawn mower that has a battery cover that won't fit the 9Ah due to the extra size though.
@@DoresoomReviews s o which do you prefer brush or brushless?
Brushless is better, and worth the bump in price. You'll get better runtime and power.
The difference with the 4 ah and the 9 ah is not "power" you would need to up the voltage or the amps. The amp hours is just the capacity at which the battery can deliver that constant 18 volts to the tool.
It's true that the Ah rating is energy storage capacity, but Ryobi's new HP batteries are capable of higher current discharge rates, which equals more power output to the tool. Better cells used in these packs can put out more current without overheating, and the 9Ah has a third row of cells to draw from. I show the 6Ah vs the 4Ah here, and the difference is obvious: th-cam.com/video/Qf3_WJqg8mg/w-d-xo.html
@@DoresoomReviews I can't read
@@TendieAssassin When you pull current from batteries the voltage drops and the available current. When this is a lot of current the voltage drops a lot. When you shut the tool off the battery recovers a little. The 9ah battery will be able to sustain much more peak voltage and current over the 4ah when your pulling hard amps in a tool especially when the battery is not fully charged. So even though the 18v HP batteries are rated for similar high amperage and the same voltage, that is based on the mosfets and protection circuit in the battery, not how the cells act which makes the most difference when using a tool through an entire battery charge.
Very good review so many use fans and lights good to see someone using actual tools
Why can’t I buy this in the Uk .?
Ryobi is weird like that sometimes. We still can't buy the 5Ah batteries here in North America, while they've been available for years elsewhere.
I live in Canada for Ryobi 18V batteries at home Depot show regular Lithium - Ion, High Capacity, and HD. My question is what's the difference???
I can't say for sure since it seems like the branding may be a little different there. But my guess would be "lithium" refers to a slim pack battery, "high capacity" probably refers to batteries with more than one row of cells, and "HD" refers to batteries that can supply more power to the tools. That's what the "HP" branded ones do here in the US. If you provide product numbers, it would be easier to explain.
@@DoresoomReviews thank you for replying. So here is the model #, discription, and prices
MODEL P129 RYOBI 18V ONE+ High Capacity 4.0Ah battery (2pack) $128
MODEL P145 RYOBI 18V ONE+ Lithium-Ion battery 4.0Ah (2pack) $119
MODEL P192 RYOBI 18V ONE+ Lithium+ HP 4.0Ah only 1 and it's out of stock so no price shown.
The P129 and P145 are pretty much the same, with a different outer color. The P192 is the upgraded HP style battery that can output more current just like the 3Ah and 6Ah I reviewed here: th-cam.com/video/14XWnygzEDo/w-d-xo.html
@@DoresoomReviews again thank you for replying you save me $10 plus 12%tax lol.
Try metric system, really more convenient :)
The power (strength) of a device is based on its potential maximum Watt output.
Maximum Watt output = Volts x Amps.
There, you have it - pay no attention to any other numbers. Example : A 12 Volt & 4 AH device = potential maximum strength of a 24 Volt & 2 AH device (equal potential maximum Watts) - and that is why, with cordless devices, comparison must be done with fully charged batteries, at all times.
Do you recharge your power tool batteries after every hole you drill, or every cut you make?
@@DoresoomReviews No, obviously not - that's just necessary to check max capability of device, or comparing one to another. Any device will lose efficiency as the battery runs down, that's a given, on any device.
From dead how long does it take to charge
I gave those numbers at 7:04 in the video. 3 hours with the P117 green charger.
With a screaming baby I must have missed it!
Haha, I know how that is!
I am a window and door contractor and I'm still using the sawzall and drill from the kit I bought In 2004 . The brushesless tools have been a huge disappointment. Had a sawzall burn in about six months of use and bought the weedwacker for home. And it's useless compared to the older ones . It's got power but eats a battery every 5-10 feet
What model batteries are you using? I wouldn't use anything under 4Ah in the brushless string trimmer. I get 20+ minute runtime out of mine.
Doresoom Tool Reviews 4 ah and 6 ah doesn't matter which after it runs for about 5 minutes every battery afterwards runs for about 30 seconds before constantly tripping the overload circuit in the pack..the sawzall was just a stupid design I tore it apart to see what went wrong. The reciprocal mechanism is not sealed and it's greased so it's just a matter of time before dust from cutting sticks to the grease and binds the slide up. I've had much greater service life from the older blue tools.
Hmmm, there's something wrong with that string trimmer then. I'd return it to the store or file a warranty claim.
Doresoom Tool Reviews Agree - return it now. Ryobi has a 3 year warranty on the new tools (and batteries too, I think) and a 90-day satisfaction guaranteed warranty/no-questions-asked-return-period.
The 9ah when fully charged can sustain enough power without voltage sag to burn out the tools motor or get it much hotter than with a 3ah for example which will only reduce its life. I'd be cautious when turning your tools into work horses using those huge batteries. I've seen a video with the P516 (which is a great saw) smoke after 8 minutes of heavy duty cutting using the 9AH battery. Another person with a brushed circular saw killed it within a couple jobs. The 9AH battery makes sense for the vacuum, soldering iron, hybrid fans, larger leaf blowers, lawnmower and other constant current tools but not for tools that can get bogged down with different materials that will cause huge surges in current. Basically any tool that can jam or motor stop/cut off that has no protection circuit like all the brushed tools will be damaged more with the bigger batteries.
Notably this should only be a problem with older brushed motors as brushless motors handle stalling much better (its generally the contact point where the brush is sitting on the communicator that ends up failing)
The battery run time is the only thing that keeps me from buying Ryobi. Need the run time for work. Other then that the price point is there...thanks
Oly have you used these new brushless tools and The HP battery because it is a game changer I use them daily installing all different types fences
Oly I use ryobi and Milwaukee daily and the Ryobi batteries seem to last longer.
@@tannerhoover6846, My Milwaukee tools are brushless, My Ryobi tools are not., 2 or 3 years old with P108-4amp. That may be part of it.
better sound on this video. Is there a new mike?
Yep! 😄
Yes... Mike was there to record the audio. Mike is a great guy. 😂
3:27 You have a jawhorse. Would you consider a review on it?
It's on my list of videos to make :)
Think these 9ah have a place for their shop vacs, weed wackers, chop saw, and such. When you do drills, circular saw, and such you are gonna want smaller.
I didn't notice the extra weight when using it with the brushless circular saw, but it's definitely too heavy to use comfortably with a drill or an impact driver for an extended period of time.
....NEVER EVER RECHARGE THE BATTERY WHEN DOING TEST... AMAZING!!
IKR? What a jackass! Damn kids...
Those huge batteries are neat, but I can't imagine they'd be fun to have hanging off your tool all day. I think I'd prefer to swap around a couple 4ah batteries honestly.
I guess it depends on the tool really. I can imagine using a drill with that battery for a whole work day.
You're right, it's really tool dependent. You won't notice it much on a circular saw, but I think it weighs more than some tools do themselves, like the glue gun!
Try da p192 its a hp. 4amp.batt for brushless tools
The 3 ah is the best. I have 2 of those, and 2 of the 4 ah batteries. The 3 ah batteries are optimized for the brushless. Way more power output when needed than the "normal" 4 ah.
Can I use a 9.0 Ah battery with the EZcleaner??
Yes, it works with the 18V 600 PSI version. I don't have the 18V 320 PSI version to check with though. But I'd wager they used the same battery compartment for both versions.
high speed high torque
The drill has a higher speed lower torque mode, and a lower speed higher torque mode. You can't have both, since power=torque*speed.
@@DoresoomReviews that's how it works speed torque even
That's true for impact drivers, but not drills.
@@DoresoomReviews yeah you right I saw someone drilling spade bit fast it didn't go far but went slower speed drilled all way thru wow.
I wonder if these will fit in the mower 🤔
I don't own the mower, but I've heard you can fit one 9Ah in it with a 4Ah in the second slot, but in that configuration the cover won't close.
@@DoresoomReviews That's disappointing to hear 😢
I picked up the 6 gal shop vac recently, and the 9Ah battery is the only way to go with that one. It uses up a 4Ah in no time. A very power hungry tool. Anything smaller that 4Ah is not a viable option.
After using the 6 gallon shop vac for awhile, I'd have to say that Ryobi needs to upgrade the efficiency and lower the noise on this machine. It produces a really annoying high pitched sound that bothers everyone in my household, especially me, since I'm the one up close to it. And the rate at which it drains the battery is amazing. Even the 9Ah has what I consider limited run time.
Corded vacs with any kind of decent power draw a lot of amps- think more than people realize. Maybe a brushless motor is what's really needed for this application? Or maybe this is one of those cordless applications that is not quite ready for prime time.
@theCAR GUY Don't remember exactly, but it was less than I would have liked, but in the usable range. With the 4Ah, it was not, IMO. I ended up returning the vac after testing it only for battery usage because of the high pitched sound it put out that I found particularly annoying, and the high battery draw.
They need to come out with a dual power shop vac like DeWalt has
I have so much poert in that battery that I don't know what to do with it. I just start cutting small trees down in the neighbourhood
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I find it hard to believe that Ryobi sent you a battery to test and review on TH-cam! I would assume if there was any factor that it would be you were the sad one world technologies sent you a Ryobi battery to test and review which is also very unlikely what you meant to say is he went down to Home Depot where you bought the battery or you ordered it online at Home Depot
I really don't know how to make it more clear, Ryobi sent it to me for review. I did not buy it, so I let my viewers know in order to be completely transparent in the review process.
$80 US for the 9 ah? That same battery is around $140 US in Aus at the current exchange rate, rip off. No excuse for it. At that price it might be worth importing some.
Apparently that $80 was an introductory price. It's back to $140 USD for one, $200 for a 2-pack ($99/ea), or $320 for a 4-pack ($80/ea).
@@DoresoomReviews Ahh righto, so that means we're paying the same then. Wish I had seen the intro price, that was a great deal. Thanks for clearing that up, cheers.
Power is nice but I need it to last till the job is done.
Well the 9Ah is still your best bet with Ryobi tools then!
It has no sense that a power tool that works on 18v cut or "work" faster with a 9ah battery. The battery gives you 9ah/hour and at least at the beginning of the working stage, the 9ah and the 4..5..6ah battery, should be the same. The 9ah battery gives you a longer time to work, but not bigger speed on the tools!
Think about it: each individual cell in this battery has a max current output capability. This battery has 50% more cells than any other Ryobi battery. So theoretically, it should be able to dump out 50% more current. Current x voltage = power. TADA, more power! Makes sense.
Now in practice it's not 50% more power due to cell spacing and thermal dissipation, but it's still a substantial boost. If you still don't believe me, go buy one and see for yourself.
U cut that 2x6 cause u put more wiegh on it
Which test did you think that was the case? It was far from scientific, but I assure you I made my best effort to apply the same force in each test.
Am I the only one with a 5ah , and why are those tools so clean.
Can't see Ryobi sending me tools, I hacked their battery system.
The 5Ah batteries were never released in North America.
It's very sad and too bad that anything above 6Ahr can't fly
I think the only brand than got around the 100Wh restriction is DeWalt FlexVolt, since you can put the red cap on them and it physically disconnects the sets of cells. Not sure about the new Metabo HPT MultiVolt though - their 8Ah may also qualify.
@@DoresoomReviews yeah SBD REALLY caught onto something there. The flexvolt line has so much potential. Tools don't have to be the best, most powerful, fastest ever. They, first, have to get to the job site. Flexvolt is the midground where a cordless tool system is truly portable
Finally a tool reviewer that doesn't take the Lord's name in vain and that doesn't use profanity. So far, so good. Nice reviews Sir.
Thanks!
You know what else eats up batteries quick..?? The 18V lawn mower. That sucker eats up a 9ah battery FAST ... Think about it, its a motor spinning a blade at full speed cutting thru grass ... !!!
tried the 36V lawn mower? that one uses 2 batteries at once.
Yea but that lawnmower motor is a 36V motor which means it should run on a single 36V battery..
My 18V lawnmower also has 2 slots for 2 18V batteries but it runs on one 18V battery.. Both batteries are in parallel so the ah is double or added between the two.
Same should go for the 36V ..
While the ryobi 9ah battery 18v is a good battery to get, I would suggest you guys pick a different brand than ryobi. 18v is just enough power only and going for 20v stuff will always pay off in the end even if it costs more. I've got a bunch of ryobi equipment from 9ah battery to grinders, sanders, reciprocating saw. While it does work it lacks the power needed when it truly matters and is less sturdy than the other brands like dewalt, milwaukee, bosch, etc. It's not bad for the diy homeowners who want say a cheap tool that does the job and buy a 18v 9ah battery to make it portable, pick up a fast charger and extra battery that comes with the tool on a good homedepot sales day. The only reason I got the battery is because I bought a cheap orbital sander and needed a 9ah battery to power it. 2ah battery lasts about 10 minutes on a grinder and 15 minutes on an orbital sander. I'm assuming 9ah battery will have 45 minutes on a grinder and 67.5 minutes on a sander. Charging the battery will probably take 1 hour 21.5 minutes for 2ah and 6 hours and 7 minutes for 9ah if normal charger. I timed the 2ah but didn't time the 9ah but this is a calculated guess of how long it takes to charge if specs are true. I only regret getting the reciprocating saw 18v since I feel it is underpowered and also the grinder too. You get what you pay for remember that.
I hate to break it to you, but 20V Max tools are really 18V nominal. It's the same voltage. The only difference there is marketing. Take a look at the box next time you're in the store - there's a little asterisk next to the 20V.
Ryobi is plenty powerful for just about any DIYer. Milwaukee, Makita, and DeWalt have more capable tools that can output more power, work faster, and be more durable, but some of their tools can be prohibitively expensive for someone who won't use them every day to make money.
@@DoresoomReviews very well said thanks for the review
You had me until you said Ryobi sent to you!
It doesn't affect my review in any way whether or not I receive free tools from a manufacturer. Go watch my review of the Ryobi stud finder, where I call them out for it being a piece of junk. Or the Bosch 12V router video, where I discovered they didn't have a safety feature they claimed it had. Or the Ryobi stapler, where I pointed out the adjustment indicator broke too easily. Or the Milwaukee brad nailer that I was less than impressed with its performance. Point is, I value my integrity, and won't compromise that just because I received a tool for free.
@@DoresoomReviews o.k. so I'm seriously considering Ryobi multipack for around $279.Should I buy the bigger battery before I even leave the store? I am nervous about this having just dropped off a high end Makita with worthless batteries at Salvation Army.
I have this drill oh, I want to start out by saying I love Ryobi tools. I am very disappointed in this drill! I have a 3 amp battery HP. The drill cannot drill a hole 4 inch hole saw without cutting out 50 times. If you use an aggressive Lenox 2 inch drill bit the drill feels like it's falling apart. Once again, I love Ryobi tools and have many of them for years. Very disappointed in this drill! I expect more from Ryobi!
I don't think I've used it with anything as large as a 4" hole saw. Are you using the slower Speed 1 with the large hole saw? That will give you the most torque.
With the 4" hole saw you rotate your drill and have it on high speed. That way the puck falls right out, no prying!
The tools are great but the batteries never last more than a year
I've been on the One+ platform for 3 years now with about a dozen batteries. I've had only 2 fail, but was able to revive them: instagram.com/p/BznpSThAOkO/?igshid=ce847c9t2krf
It's as big as a car battery
Why would anyone even do a comparison test between batteries, if not even beginning each test with a fully charged battery? That should be a no-brainer. And Counting the number of times a circular saw stalls out between various batteries means nothing in terms of comparison when I can see your arm speed up the feed rate slightly before each stall. You need a constant pressure. Your methods are flawed.
These are by no means scientific tests, but they help people get a general idea of the batteries' capabilities. I ran the different tool tests back to back because performance over a duration will also play a part in the different capacity batteries, and it reflects real world usage. If you want better data, you're welcome to go spend the time and money to build a test rig yourself.
badereeeeeeee lol
heres a lesson for you
voltage provides power, 18 v is 18 v
amps provides life, a 6 amp battery will provide 6 amps for 1 hour, a 9 amp battery will provide 9 amps for 1 hour before going dead
There are actually a few misconceptions in the lesson you provided. Voltage x current = power, not just voltage alone. So a 1A current at 18V provides the same power as an 18A current at 1V.
All batteries are not created equal, even if they have the same voltage rating. Bigger batteries with higher numbers of cells in parallel can output more current without overheating, since the battery can draw from two or more sets of cells at a time. This 9Ah battery for example has three rows of five cells each, with the individual voltages of 3.6V each. A slim pack battery will only have one row of five cells. So to output the same amount of current, the cells in the slim pack would have to discharge 3X as fast, which would cause them to overheat quickly.
Cell type matters as well - each cell has a maximum energy storage capacity, as well as a maximum rate it can discharge that energy.
You got the battery capacity portion mostly right, but what you're referring to as "amps" are actually amp-hours. Amperes (or amps for short) are a unit of current. Amp hours is a measure of energy storage capacity.
I have never, nor will ever have, any desire, notion, nor intention, under penalty of death, to attach an effing anvil to any of my 18v tools......
Try it sometime - if you have the means, I highly recommend it
Amp hours make no difference to power
Yes they do. Did you even watch the video? While it's true Ah is a rating for energy storage capacity, there are also power benefits from better and more cells that are internal to the battery.
Finally someone that understand that ITS the working time on the battery and not the power..
The 9Ah offers BOTH greater power and extended runtime.
the bigger the battery, more amps(load) you can pull.
Yes and a larger battery will be under less stress on a power hungry tool such as a lawnmower.
Spend the extra money. Ryobi products are crap and homedepot doesnt honor your purchase.
I bought a power washer that after 6 months wont stay running.
I bought a cordless drill that after 3 months the battery completely doed.
I bought a plug in leaf blower that one 1 of the 2 speeds even functions.
You get what you pay for folks.
Was it one of the 2Ah batteries that died? They're the only ones I've had trouble with over the past several years, but it's possible to revive them if you catch it right away: instagram.com/p/BznpSThAOkO/
Bullshit. I have Ryobi tools that are over 10 years old. As well as brand new ones. They all work well.
Conversation to kilograms would be great, this pound stuff makes zero sense!
It does if you live in the US, where half my audience does. Divide by 2.2, you'll be fine.
@@DoresoomReviews fortunately the US and it's nonsensical measurement systems are unique to you- whilst the rest of the Planet Earth has moved on to a superior system. Half your audience should be enough to put conversions into your videos.
@@MarkGibbons if the math is, pardon me… if the _maths are_ too challenging for you to do in your head, may I remind you that your phone comes equipped with a calculator? Or is that also a U.S.-only thing? 😂
@@rocketsalad Why are you replying to a 1+ year old (almost two!) comment about a minority measurement system being used?