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- GREAT Trail and XC tires from #Pirelli - #Scorpion XC #tires in 29 x 2.4, the M for mixed terrain as a front and the H - hardpack as a real tire. They use motorsport-derived tech to provide surprising performance in all kinds of terrain. Here they are next to the Scorpion XC RC, the intriguing low profile tread tire that many use in the UCI XCO races.
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00:00 Intro
00:27 Why XC M and XC H tires
00:56 XC M and XC H Specs, SmartGRIP
02:01 Tire weight
03:11 LITE vs ProWALL, inserts
04:05 Tires installed, details
05:32 Tire measurements
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By far you are the best!!! Thanks a lot!!
Long term, short term, all good. One of the very best channels we have 🎉
Thank you my friend! 🤘
great review thank you for all you do!!!
Thanks a lot Glenn! With your terrain I would consider some of their more aggressive tires. Just saying 😉
dhr2 and a assegai up front works well for me,there's so many good tires being made today it's crazy!!!Cheers@@LoveMTB
I got my first pair of Pirellis for my Scott Scale (XC M ProWall at the back and the XC S Lite up front) and so far I really like them!!! Thanks for the tip!!!
Let us know how you like them long term!
@@LoveMTB Well I have riden the Pirellis for a few weeks now and I am very very happy!!! The XC S / XC M Combo is my favorite setup since Maxxis discontinued the Beaver!!! There is only one very small down side and that is the casing of my front tire. I love light and supple casings but the light casing is a little bit to "soft" for my liking and weight. I'm riding with an insert front and back now (normaly I only use one in the back) which helps and when the tires are worn I will use the ProWall front and back... Thanks again for the review I would have tried Pirellis otherwise...
@@Mo.Jo.MTB_101 you’re welcome! We’re using pro wall front, and lite with insert rear since we use the higher pressure for rear
Thanks for the content. Very few recent vids on Pirelli mtb tires. I'm gonna try the Pirelli Scorpion Trail M.
And let us know how you like it!
@@LoveMTB Will do ! Thx
Perfect timing as I am looking to buy a new set of tires. Probably go with the RC lite front and the R for the rear
Thanks for another great video!
At your recommendation I am currently running a XC RC ProWall front at 18 psi and XC RC Lite with insert on the rear at 19 psi with 150 pound rider. This has proven to be the best race combination yet, very light with great grip. I was running XC M on the front and XC R on the rear, also a great combination. Being a bit heavier they are now on my training bike.
For dry summer conditions, loose over hard pack, the XC H front and rear work best with a very predictable slide that always seemed to catch itself.
Coming from sport bike racing I can attest to the performance of Pirelli tires.
Just really great tires!
I'm using Vittoria Barzo tyre's, front and back, and they are super. Soon I will try the Continental Cross King ShieldWall. Cheers from Porto City, Portugal. ✌🏼🇵🇹💪🏼🚲
obrigado! pelas informações, o canal de vocês é top demais!
Obrigado!☺
Been using XCM on front for a year now and really like it.
Thanks for sharing!
Pirelli: "We need to think of a name for our mountain bike range of tyres."
Bill from marketing who named evey other Pirelli tyre: "Ooh I know.... Scorpion!!"
Pirelli: "YES! 🙌"
😂
Recently, before I got a Pirelli XC RC, apparently the last one ever made (!) I tried a Black Chili Cross King 29x2.3 rear, Mountain King 29x2.35 front and was blown away by how well that combo hooked up for climbing, braking and turning traction.
There's one of many segments I track. that is really buff with a .7 mile climb with 122 feet of climb that requires acceleration out of slight climbing turns, so a lighter tire would be advantageous. My PR on that climb is on this Cross King/Mountain King Black Chili Protection combo at 4:28. My second fastest is on the Pirelli rear, Cross King front at 4:48 which was an exact tie with the Pirelli rear, Mountain King front.
There is an intermediate DH of about the same incline in the area that's .8 miles long that is only 11 seconds slower on the CK/MK compared to an Assegai/Dissector. I have yet to time an XC RC front and back downhill just because I can't get a second Pirelli.
My inclination at this point is to cancel the second Pirelli and just ride the Cross King, Mountain King combo locally. They appear to be just as fast (they don't FEEL fast, they ARE fast, according to the stopwatch). I'll continue to try the Pirellis, but the Continental combo is better - faster and grippier.
Good to know! Used to run a the Contis a lot, but that was many years ago. Might have to take another look at them thanks!
I am also running Contis Cross King and Race King. The rear tire is almost gone and I need a new one as I have no grip anymore. The sealant was bleeding through the tires quite a bit. Will try Schwalbe now and then the Pirellis. Got a good deal on the former and will buy the Pirellis if I find them at a better price
Thanks for the report. Were you able to use a lower psi in the rear Pirelli on account of its larger casing? How did that feel?
I really like my pirelli scorpions on the moto. Willing to try them on my mtbs
Yup they know their tire stuff!
good review👍
Thanks! 👍
Interesting that if Pirelli is so well versed in tires , that they would indicate minimum tire pressure at 29 PSI. You have had great experience lower, and it is fair to say median pressure out there is less than 29..... why Pirelli lists as such......maybe 29 with tubes?
Can be something to do with long term sidewall integrity, warranty claims etc. Lower pressure puts more emphasis on sidewall longevity and tubeless performance. Ours survived more than a seson, ProWall a couple of seasons running them between 16-20psi@@jimnarvel9794
Not sure if you see test of Pirelli XC RC on bicyclerollingresistant. But that explain a lot about Pirelli's focus and priority on these tires. Pirelli's compound top the chart as the grippiest mtb tire compound bicyclerollingresistant tested. And that's the single compound they use for the entire tread. No harder and faster compound in the center.
They seems to emphasize grip at cost of rolling speed on pavement/metal drum. I think it's appropriate for offroad tires unless someone really use these tires a lot on pavement.
Yeah pretty much our experience. We're using them on rough terrain and all kinds of weather and tese tires are really, really good. I also ddid see the comments, many staying away from them because of the perceivd "high" rolling resistance. To that what I said was...more for us! 🙃
Thank you for all the great videos & reviews, they are fantastic.
I have been seriously thinking of running pirelli tyres on my ripleyv4s and would love your feedback on your new tyres.
I was thinking if running the same combo as above, or running a xc S on the front.
Currently running bontrager xr3 and xr4 ,they are pretty good so far.
Hi Jason, Bontrager XR3/4 combo is a more agressive set than what I have here. What are you looking for?
@LoveMTB a quick set up that can be pushed hard at times.
I ride everything on my ripley from road to singletrack and a few black Diamond trails.
Some are techy with a few rocks but not many.
Trying to keep weight to a minimum without losing to much traction.
Hey did you use these at the Hardwood Epic 8 Hour? How did they perform in the dry? And it was great to see you. Great riding from you and your team. Keep it up!
Yes I did! So did my son and daugher, they were awesome, we did not need anything more than the XC RC. And yeah, great to be there to see so many of you guys maybe one more time in this type of race format for 2023!🤘
Great review! Thanks for the super interesting content which you bring to us. I am currently running Pirelli XC RC team edition (mine weighted in at 700gr) and I am super happy with them. I am however thinking about getting the XC M to ride in the more wet Mar/Apr weather. I am a bit hesitant though because of the additional weight per tire. What are your thoughts about the +120 per tire?
Thanks!
If you’re not racing I wouldn’t care much for that extra bit of weight
if you could get your hands on some Hutchinson tires, thats what im running this year as a race setup. the Kraken and the Skeleton. the Kraken is a fantastic front tire. rolls super fast and corners well too. Tread has lasted all season, comfortable and plush sidewall while also being abrasion resistant! the same cant be said for the skeleton rear tire though. thats definitely a compromised tire with its main focus being on less rolling resistance. its a fast tire but only on very dry conditions. when you push it up steep hills or in any sort of moisture, the tire slips. maybe I will have to run a set of the Kraken's and ditch the skeleton apart from dry race days!
have a look at them and let me know what you think about them? as always, love your content and love that you go in to so much detail, even about something as "simple" as tires :) it keeps me coming back to every single video you make. Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback Nathan, appreciate it!🤓
I'll see if I can get my hands on a set, they're not tat popular up here in North America...
@@LoveMTB I bought mine from Chain Reation Cycles. They ship to North America but sometimes stuff gets caught up in customs so if you do order them, dont expect them like Amazon Prime 😂
Team Hutchinson here as well, moved from Pirellis actually :D
Krakens are a fantastic tyre
I there love your channel. Which one would you select or you think is better for non side punctures, M Scorpion model or Maxxis Ardent Race 29x2.40 W
That would not be my deciding factor but I think the sidewals are similar
How does the H compare to the R and the RC?
Thanks for your content! I'm currently running Barzo 2.35 F, Mezcal 2.25 R combo and want to switch to both 2.4 Tan wall setup Pirellis with Pro wall. Since there is no tan wall in XC H, would you suggest both XC M for the front and rear, or XC M - XC RC combo? Or to rephrase the question, how do XC M and XC RC compare rolling resistance-wise?
Hard to tell without actually measuring it scientifically. As in even if it is higher you won't notice it up front much.
Will be great your comparation Vs the RC prowall, i need new tires for my Otbea Oiz. Its tought choice since i do agressive Xc and XCM so its involved max ratio weight-cornering-traction-rolling resistance with some protection.
Also considering Ardent race front 2.4 (dont have confirmed weight)! and rekon race rear or
Mezcal TNT..
Cheers
I think these XC RCs are better overall than all those tires you just mentioned. Definitely for XC. More agressive, the combo you see here? 🙃
@@LoveMTB thanks a lot, you feel the combo M and H have much worse rolling resistance than Aspens? Will be around the same than rekons race ? Sometime 30 to 50 miles races its also key aspect
Thanks again for the feedback
On the others aspects, cornering and uphill traction probably RC or the combo M and H are superiors if im not wrong.
enjoyed watching your vid, which one is the best base in your exp ? plan to buy XC RC pro wall 2.4
Thanks, when you say base do you mean casing? ProWALL is a good choice if you don't use an insert.
@@LoveMTB Sorry my Bad, I mean from your exp which one is the best for all around tire. I am a long time user of Maxxis Aspen 2.4 . thanks..
If racing was not involved I might chose the M front and H rear like in this video. Otherwise can't go wrong with XC RC ProWall@@Je-Welds
@@LoveMTB very much appreciated thanks man...Cheers...
I wonder about the continental XC tires. I think they supposed to be pretty good!
Used to run them. Not that popular in North America these days. Heavy-ish, small in comparison, issues with tubeless is what got us to move from them.
XC RC is superior I think, especially side knobs, for what XC M can handle, they have too weak side knobs. Although I have 2.2 version and all knobs are too tightly spaced imo. Definitely interested in your long term review!
Hey there so did you actually use the XC M?
Very interesting hmmm...@@boreborebore
@@LoveMTB Yes I still use it, 2.2 version, although looking for something else for next season :)
The difference between the the 2.2 and something bigger like 2.35/2.4 can make a difference in the handling. Although I have not tried these tires yet. I found this to be true on other brands. Sometimes the grouping of the nobs spaced out and if the side nobs are bit bigger, it may feel like a different tire. I ran 2.2/2.25 tires for years and it was somewhat of a struggle to find the perfect combo for speed and grip. I guess we will not know for sure unless we try both sizes. But I guess for racing the smaller size is what your after. The CX RC side nobs double grouping do look more solid than the other pattern.
Yes a good example of that was Ardent 2.2 and 2.4, or Ikon etc@@matthewkramer8613
What about running the XCH front and rear? Would that be similar to the RC in some way? I like to RC but Want something I can train and race on, without having to change tyres. The RC says highest of high racing (like pros only). I'm just a weekend warrior
We are just weekend warriors and keep them on all season. Also Check out my recent follow up video on these 😉
Hi, would you please share your thoughts on how the Pirellis have been doing? I'd greatly appreciate your feedback, thank you!
I'll see what I can do. We will be running them again in 2024 if that tells you anything 😉
Thank you@@LoveMTB
Boa noite tudo bem? Seus vídeos são show de verdade, me ajuda qual que usa na frente e quiáltera que usa atrás? Ou qual é melhor pra se usar 2 pneus iguais?
Obrigado!
Você pode usar o ProWALL na frente e atrás se não quiser dores de cabeça.😏
@@LoveMTB kkkk Mas qual é pra frente o Xc H ( vermelho ) ou Xc M ( amarelo ) pois em meu país só tem esses dois…
I just needed info on these tires. And the colors of the tires, I guess, are borrowed from F1.
I bet they are! Don't forget moto also, they say most of the design ideas are from there 🙂
Are the fastest & lightest the XC RC Lite ? I need to choose between Conti RaceKings, Schwalbe Racing Ralph, Maxxis Aspen or Pirelli XC RC Lite. Priority is Rolling Resistance - meaning fast! Which one should I go for ?
Don't know anything about your riding or you as a rider. For us the Lite works well as a rear with an insert, I can tell you that.
Thanks. Single track fast racing. Have you tried the new Goodyear Peak SL xc tyre? Could be better than the Scorpion xc 😊
I did not, we're pretty conservative on tires once we find something we like 😊@@user-go8ky9hs9u
Have you tried the Scorpion XC-S prowall?
Only the ones I talked about
By Far my most favourite would be the Continental Race king, specially for Pave/Roads.
i dunno if pirelli can match Continental.
the thing i heard about pirelli is that they are not good in Pavement/Flat
makes me hesitate in getting 1
i really want a fast rollinh tire and thats what i Love about continental race king
Why would you focus on pavement riding for a mountain bike, that’s not where it should excel?🤷♂️
I have the Race King on my rear and Cross King up front. I like the tires. They’re fast but the sealant seems to be bleeding through and the wheels don’t look pretty on the side walls. Looking now at the Pirellis
Hmmm...it's the reason why we moved away from Contis a while ago. Sad to hear they're still having the same issues. Pass...
It's a pity that Pirelli doesn't offer these tires in size 27.5.
It is isn't it?
Facts it's a damn shame we need 27.5 tires or not Dead
Buenas tengo dudas sobre la elección de mis neumáticos delantero y trasero haber
Si podría ayudarme, estoy entre los pirelli xc rc los pirelli xc m por un lado o la elección de los specialiced fast track 2:35 grip compuesto T 7 en ambas ruedas , los pirelli no sé cuál de todos me vendría mejor para uso dounw contry xc agresivo terreno mismo. Agradezco su respuesta gracias y quedo
Lo siento, no tengo ninguna experiencia con el Specialiced Fast Track 2:35
Your review of the XC RC 2.4 made me buy a set. Wow these tires are amazing. Previously had vittoria syerra on my we are one union wheels on my Yeti Arc and the XCRC blows outperforms it. Is it just me or the pirelli feels like it even corners harder than the syerra?
We are continuously amazed at those XC oriented tires, just rolling well and so predictable, great cornering for whatthey are. DO I have to say we're going to run them again next year?😇
Hello I have a question
Can I use the M 2.4 on the rear tire ???
Assume you could depends on the frame
You are raving about the Pirelli's but you don't offer a link to buy them in Canada...?
When I can I do, not for these
Try a Wolfpack tire! One of the best in my opinion. 😉✌🏻
Si può usare un 2.4 sul canale da 25 interno? I tasselli nel 2.4 sono più grandi rispetto al 2.2 . Grazie
Sì, puoi, ma a seconda del tuo stile di guida e del tuo peso potresti mantenere una pressione più elevata.
I noticed trek factory racing running those this year but also having a unusual amount of flats now. Have u experienced more frequent flats?
I did not. Where did you see more flats on the Trek riders? Same can be said about Scott / Maxxis?
@@LoveMTBpretty sure every rider has flatted during a WC this year. Amos, Richards, Neff, dascalu
And yes nino has flatted many Aspen tires. I believe his was the 170tpi protos tho
How do you like the rec vs raceking?
rec?
Sorry, xc rc
I'm biased, I would use XC RC every time😊@@ridedirtymtb9938
@@LoveMTB Ive pre ordered a set, they are back ordered until feb 11
I know, my order will ship on the 15 now!@@ridedirtymtb9938
Were you saying you wouldn't run tires as low as 29? That is still too much IMO.
No. He wouldn't run them as HIGH as 29.
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