Analyzing Russian Tanks in Ukraine: T-80 “Flying” Tank

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  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    For those curious, the only tank in service we haven't seen as of posting is the T-90M (there's probably only about 2 battalion sets in the Russian Army, although one of the units that has them, the 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division, is in Ukraine so we might see them at some point). We also haven't seen the T-14 Armata, because it is notably not in active service.
    And a lot of Russian simps complained about this point: Russia DOES have T-72As and T-72Bs in active service, and they have been observed in Ukraine. Many older un-upgraded T-72s were taken out of storage in recent years to fill out the new divisions they reformed. The 90th Guards Tank Division, which is in Ukraine around Chernihiv, was one of these units. If you're Russian you can literally Google (or Yandex?) this information. I've even seen Russian tank experts (who definitely don't seem to be that sympathetic to Ukraine) acknowledge Russian T-72As in Ukraine.

    • @HyperScorpio8688
      @HyperScorpio8688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There WERE sightings of the T-14 being moved into Ukraine, but it doesn't seem like they were used in combat thus far

    • @regalswede3667
      @regalswede3667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@HyperScorpio8688 Citation needed.

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@HyperScorpio8688 why tho. any further footages/reports of failures of the T-14s at this stage would just diminish its sale value

    • @Guido_Gideon
      @Guido_Gideon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      "Russian simps"

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HyperScorpio8688 I think they were just being moved on rail within Russia.

  • @peteranderson9222
    @peteranderson9222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    Great analysis of the markings found that really insightful. I’m consuming so much information on this currently and coming from a non-military background have little basis to discard fact from fiction.

    • @GreyLazy-ny2xg
      @GreyLazy-ny2xg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes he made in 1980 and good burn byu stinger and "Bairactar"

    • @klutzspecter3470
      @klutzspecter3470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      My military background comes from Call of Duty and Battlefield 4. I am a Level 100 colonel general of the army at 25th prestige. I knew these markings before the war broke out.

    • @cn.st.182
      @cn.st.182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And now you have that basis..?

    • @kevinconiglio4054
      @kevinconiglio4054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@cn.st.182 he never said that, he used present tense not past. Implying no change in the status of his basis

    • @lexprontera8325
      @lexprontera8325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... "discern"? ..."discriminate"?

  • @thedysfunctionalbiographer3314
    @thedysfunctionalbiographer3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +659

    Would love to see a break down of other Russian tanks (T-72 and T-90) and Ukraine's T-64BV and T-64BMs. Meanwhile, Ukrainian farmers are busily noting the best place to attach a tow cable.

    • @GreyLazy-ny2xg
      @GreyLazy-ny2xg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      All tank is flying then meet "Bairaktar"😂

    • @The2ndFirst
      @The2ndFirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's somtehing to be said for understanding a countries weapons systems.

    • @firstconsul7286
      @firstconsul7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      >Deploy tow ropes
      >Attach to tow ropes
      Drive into the sunset

    • @CARBONHAWK1
      @CARBONHAWK1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those were Ukrainian tanks

    • @Gallic_Gabagool
      @Gallic_Gabagool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      man yall make the same Reddit tier jokes over and over

  • @raymondyee2008
    @raymondyee2008 2 ปีที่แล้ว +449

    I heard that at least one Russian T80-BVM captured has been seen in use by the 93rd Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. What better way than to grab the abandoned tanks and use it as yours.

    • @CDA-
      @CDA- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      Ukrainian tractor : Seems like a job for me

    • @D3R3bel
      @D3R3bel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      There are about 8 supposed captured t80bvms with picture evidence, so russia is giving away some choice hardware

    • @user-bd1mr5bm5i
      @user-bd1mr5bm5i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      For how long they can manage to use it, considering how much fuel the T-80 tanks devour

    • @berryreading4809
      @berryreading4809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Yeah it's a shame those fuel convoys are so much easier to blow up than capture intact 🙁 assuming the various types of fuel hasn't already been drained out or used for heat while stuck on the highway "accidentally" 😉👍 good job to those Russian soldiers, and to the Chinese tire manufacturers of course 🤝

    • @slawawacker
      @slawawacker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      NATO has sent thousands of modern missiles to Ukraine. Many of them will be sold on the black market to ISIS and Al Qaeda.
      ISIS and Al Qaeda will use American Stinger missiles to shoot down Western passenger planes.
      You or your family could be killed by American weapons.

  • @EvoSwatch
    @EvoSwatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +428

    "Flying Tank "alright, -the turret at least.-

    • @jokubasmirinas116
      @jokubasmirinas116 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Анастасия Борисова if you count taking useless countryside and some small towns with great losses as winning, I guess...

    • @maarten1115
      @maarten1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @Анастасия Борисова Everywhere? Maybe they'd win everywhere if their tanks didn't run out of fuel constantly. Russia can't operate more then 100km into Ukrainian soil because of logistic issues.

    • @CDA-
      @CDA- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@maarten1115 no need to respond, Kremlin bot detected

    • @maarten1115
      @maarten1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@CDA- Lol TH-cam removed my comment. Nvm it's back, must have been a bug.

    • @DisGuyLol
      @DisGuyLol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@maarten1115 I agree with this statement, I don't think the T-80 is a failure (in-fact Im quite sure a good majority were captured/abandoned). It's more the fact that they're fuel hungry and given Russia's poor logistics with Trucks it makes sense why it resulted in that. We know that even back in the 1st Chechen War that the T-80s Gas Turbine was an issue due to this; but at the same time without the gas turbine on they lose practically all their systems. Edit: Note that any tank in any country would get blown up by Top-down attacks; including Leopards, Challengers and M1s, the penetration of these ATGMs are high and would require APS systems to take them down effectively (which currently only Israel fields on a mass scale).

  • @jackhandsome1160
    @jackhandsome1160 2 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    My buddy served as a conscript in the 4th Guards Tank Division. The first captured T-80U is the one on which he served. According to him, almost 30% of his battalion was inoperative and this was in 2020. The general condition of the tanks was also very poor, they needed major repairs.

    • @delamovies
      @delamovies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I guess he escaped this conflict by a hair huh?

    • @not-a-theist8251
      @not-a-theist8251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You essentially doxed your buddy and he has given military intel to you. Russia is a totalitarian dictatorship. I would delete this comment if I were you

    • @JohnDoe-se1xm
      @JohnDoe-se1xm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@not-a-theist8251 I doubt Russian security operatives would be scrolling through a TH-cam comment section looking for defectors or casualties

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Soviet tanks are, by design, hard to repair. It takes a couple of days to replace the engine. Different doctrine, they valued small size and cheaper construction costs over easy maintenance.

    • @Bojan_Kavedzic
      @Bojan_Kavedzic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@neodym5809 Couple of days is an utter BS.

  • @bernardoohigginsvevo2974
    @bernardoohigginsvevo2974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I've always been interested in this sort of information, but the research is way too meticulous for me. I appreciate how these videos do the heavy lifting for me and reorganize the information into an easily digestible format. Keep up the good work!

  • @ArchivatorRUS
    @ArchivatorRUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +276

    Amazing absolutely apolitical work. It's very nice to see this. Especially now, when propaganda is getting into the ears literally from every iron.

    • @ayrnovem9028
      @ayrnovem9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It is hard to stay completely unbiased in the information storm we are experiencing right now, but props to this channel for trying.

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Your expertise is really coming in handy verifying information coming out of the war. Thankyou.

  • @ilovehihats
    @ilovehihats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    I think the logisitics failure in the initial sstage of the invasion, and argueably even now, coupled with the T-80s gas guzzling engine, led to many of them just being abandoned.

    • @709mash
      @709mash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      I've read from veteran anti tank soldiers (one of which had been using Russian tactics in war game training) saying that the logistics aren't necessarily "bad" but just not set up to fight this kind of war. The Russian doctrine is still set for a nuclear style war and isn't sufficient for this kind of conflict. Still shows a failure to adapt. That and the overall lack of training and quality equipment. The Russian bear seems more like a paper tiger.

    • @aminech6342
      @aminech6342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@709mash don't forget when he said that in war they push the old equipments and conscripts first to suck supplies and ammunition, ATs and AAs out of the enemy. Then the real army come.

    • @Killerpixel11
      @Killerpixel11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      @@aminech6342 The "real army"? What, Guard Units and the mighty (lol) VDV not "real" enough? What else is there to send? Some T-90M, maybe? Equipment is not gonna make the difference in this conflict, they already failed.

    • @yuukibr5959
      @yuukibr5959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@aminech6342 as more time goes on, Ukraine gets stronger everyday by receiving more manpower and supplies, while Russia becomes weaker by the day because of the sanctions

    • @rhumandlove393
      @rhumandlove393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      @@aminech6342 to think that Russia honestly throws lives away is ridiculous. Even for Russian military doctrine.

  • @BungoPls
    @BungoPls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Outstanding work, yet again. Please keep it up

  • @bene0307
    @bene0307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The director of the german tank museum did a very good analysis video on the russian t-series tanks... He explained that the T-72, T-80 and T-90 cannot be seen as following generations, but more as improved versions of a tank chassy that pretty much hasn´t changed since the T-64... For example T-80 and T-90 cannot be compared in terms of technichal upgrades and new innovations like the leopard 1 and leopard2... They are more like the Leopard 2A4, 2A5, 2A6 and so on...

    • @Namelessthe3rd
      @Namelessthe3rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Hence the biggest problems with the Russian tank force right now. While most of the world is using tanks that were actually designed in the 1970s and 80s, the Russians are effectively just using upteched versions of machines made in the 1960s.

    • @Loplyful
      @Loplyful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Namelessthe3rd Which in my opinion is their huge downfall. No matter how many upgrades you put on a single chassis it will still be the same outdated vehicle from the 70-80's. No wonder Putin is scared of Abrams, Leopards, Merkavas, Challengers, etc.

    • @thetruth7633
      @thetruth7633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Loplyful Yes Vladimir is pissing his pants by how well the Abrahams performed in Afghanistan, taken out by rooftop gasoline bottle throwers or 40 year old RPGs

    • @Loplyful
      @Loplyful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@thetruth7633 Oops, found a communist bootlicker. How's the Ruble doing for ya?

    • @peka2478
      @peka2478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Loplyful Thats like a Ship of Theseus - question here ... how much can you change until it becomes something else?
      Just changing the gun or the engine alone can completely change how a vehicle can be used;
      (see Pz IV with a "normal" anti tank gun, compared to a Pz IV with a mortar)
      But if you add vertical stabilizers, change even the type of engine (from gasoline/diesel to gas turbine for example), night vision, reactive armor ... is it still "the same outdated vehicle"?

  • @Utgardaloki76
    @Utgardaloki76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Russian tanks are the most commonly flying tanks in the world. Just the other day I saw a Russian tank fly quite a bit after being hit by a Javelin.

  • @rodiculous9464
    @rodiculous9464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Judging by those photos, it looks like the insignia isn't the only thing the 4th guard hasn't changed since ww2

    • @donaldkasper8346
      @donaldkasper8346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No no, for their modern army they repainted everything with a fresh coat of green.

    • @logannicholson1850
      @logannicholson1850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean alot of unit ensigns don't change look at the royal navy ship patches for instance they use the same a WW2

    • @VladRadu-tq1pg
      @VladRadu-tq1pg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldkasper8346 lol this

    • @donaldkasper8346
      @donaldkasper8346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VladRadu-tq1pg No really, everything has a brand new green paint job. Very impressive.

  • @remiflorquin2688
    @remiflorquin2688 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Big thank you for your great work! Always instructive and well documented!

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Wow, this type of high-quality content is so hard to find. Tactical / unit symbols and command structures give so much more insight into what’s going on than big red arrows in the usual media reporting, provided you know what a brigade, battalion etc is. Subscribed.

    • @victorrtalluto225
      @victorrtalluto225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      High quality Uke propaganda. What about Uke losses?

  • @saturnv2419
    @saturnv2419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    For those wondering "wait where are the T-90s"
    Many early model T-90As are actually less capable than T-72BVs due to modernization, since T-90 was originally based on T-72. The models we see during the military parades are T-90M, but the problem being, those models are way to expensive for Russian army to mass produce, current count is less than 100, meaning there are more likely to be held back.
    As of the famous T-14, the full production of that had been pushed back for some reason since 2017, meaning as of now there are no operationally produced T-14 in Russian service.

    • @Wick9876
      @Wick9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The famous stealth tank: You can't see it anywhere.

    • @digimaks
      @digimaks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not the problem for mass production, or expense - they are impractical. If you ever look up T-90 it has JET engine! It is extreme gas guzzler! When one is coming up, it sounds like a jet plane is approaching!

    • @fourthwall2533
      @fourthwall2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@digimaks turbines are common for tanks, the Abrams uses one as well

    • @corentinnaisse5350
      @corentinnaisse5350 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@digimaks No, the T-90 has a standard V-block 4-stroke piston engine. It's the T-80 which uses a gas turbine (you know, the one in this video if you had listened before commenting).

    • @braith117
      @braith117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@digimaks you hear diesels from much further away than turbines because of how low frequency they are.

  • @charleslyster1681
    @charleslyster1681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This was really helpful; especially useful to see good use of map information. I have been wondering how many of the destroyed tanks Ukrainian sources show are Russian, or are current. This shows what kind of stuff to look for.

  • @covenant_mog05
    @covenant_mog05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Whenever I hear reactive armor cant help but laugh at the one picture going around about an immobilized/captured Russian tank in Ukraine where the "reactive armor" was shown to be filled with cardboard that looked like egg cases

    • @chrisg6091
      @chrisg6091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, many of the images I've seen of captured/disabled Russian tanks show what appears to be 'training armour' ie not ERA but inert filler.

    • @dasbubba841
      @dasbubba841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisg6091 Still, the fact that its empty is rather telling.

    • @chrisg6091
      @chrisg6091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dasbubba841 What can we surmise from the use of training armour instead of battle armour? 1. Rushed into battle, unprepared, by Putin. 2 Incompetent commanders 3. Poor equipment levels (they just don't have it) 4. [insert your speculation here]

  • @skywatcher1972
    @skywatcher1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Single best analysis I have encountered of any aspect of this conflict, [outside of some commentary by retired Generals]. You're obviously well informed, and unlike others, keep your ego out of it. As a graphic arts major, I would like to say your Logo is also top notch. Glory to Ukraine!

  • @creatoruser736
    @creatoruser736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    This is the first time Russia has used the T-80 in combat since the First Chechen War. And ironically they're facing the same issues; poor training, lacking equipment, and fuel shortages leading to bad employment and high losses.

    • @jpowens2253
      @jpowens2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Are you sure? Because based on previous Russian tactics everything is going to plan, unfortunately. The biggest issue I've seen was the armored divisions are going 120% of their maximum daily distance causing a long "tail" and making supply vehicles easy targets. This phase, however, it's over now. If you look at the battle maps, they are avoiding big cities and just surrounding them. Up at Kyev, they are currently setting up a FOB about 20 miles to the NW. Which is just below the maximum distance for their mobile missile launchers (21mi and 24mi).
      Casualties have never been a concern for Russia. In fact, in every war they have fought in they sustained more casualties than the opposing side.

    • @jpowens2253
      @jpowens2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @Scaucy man 2.0 that sounds unrealistic, even for a larger better equipped military. Why do you think that was their plan?

    • @jpowens2253
      @jpowens2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @Scaucy man 2.0 they haven't even moved any units from the donbass region and Georgia was a much smaller country. Either way, why would that give you the impression that they expected to take Kyev in only 3 days when all of their military doctrine and previous engagements say it would take longer?
      Hell, do you even remember how long the Gulf War took? And the US was steamrolling them so bad that it was harder to process all the soldiers surrendering than it did to actually fight them.

    • @makoado6010
      @makoado6010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Scaucy man 2.0 bullshit.

    • @deltadromeuss
      @deltadromeuss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@jpowens2253 Casualties are definitely a concern for Putin. That's why they have started to pull conscripts out of Ukraine (or so they say). The fact that he felt the need to address the issue on TV speaks volumes. Besides, the wish to avoid too many losses even among contract soldiers is the main reason the Russians have been looking for new sources of manpower left and right- from Wagner veterans (they even lowered the standard for recruitment) to Syrian fighters.

  • @GuidoMillonezz
    @GuidoMillonezz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your a master doing these great videos. Beyond outstanding!!!

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glad you like them!

  • @sd906238
    @sd906238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    T-80 this, T-80 that. All of the different T-80's look the same when their turrets shoot up into the air and land on the ground upside down.

  • @patriot7083
    @patriot7083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent high quality video. Well done Sir! Really fantastic mic audio.

  • @c431inf
    @c431inf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is so squared away 🤘 great information and knowledge , got subscription

  • @stevenbreach2561
    @stevenbreach2561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Only bits I,ve seen flying,are the turrets.They should come fitted with sunflower seed dispensers

    • @shmeckle666
      @shmeckle666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Let's Go Brandon Plenty of tank bits on a modern battlefield with ATGMs a plenty. Until, if ever, armored vehicles get the advantage again in armor and active/passive protection systems. I'd never set foot in any MBT anywhere, from anyone.

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shmeckle666 *not set foot on a battlefield.
      Fixed that for ya
      last 2 decades mostly saw the west steamrolling already devastated conscript militaries or literal dirt farmers and shepherds. This exact scenario could have played out 15 yrs ago.
      We already saw how deadly drones and guided missiles are last year when Armenia was soundly defeated by the Azeris

  • @rsKayiira
    @rsKayiira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Wow this is impressive. Great video. Next do T-72 and T-90. But this shows just how much resistance they've faced in Sumy. They've lost at least one battalion worth of equipment from this axis alone.

    • @Vedioviswritingservice
      @Vedioviswritingservice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      According to whom?

    • @rsKayiira
      @rsKayiira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Vedioviswritingservice did you watch the video??

    • @Vedioviswritingservice
      @Vedioviswritingservice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rsKayiira Yes, no where does he say where he is getting his information on losses from. If you know, please enlighten me.

    • @rsKayiira
      @rsKayiira 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Vedioviswritingservice lmao you didn't watch the video. There are multiple OSINT sources where you can visually confirm There have been at least 200 tank losses from Russia or the equivalent of 3 tank battalions

    • @Vedioviswritingservice
      @Vedioviswritingservice 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rsKayiira Just tell me what they are then and we can judge the credibility.

  • @a.N.....
    @a.N..... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great concise analysis mate

  • @johnxina987
    @johnxina987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Russian tanks are lighter and smaller because ukrainian farmers can tow them with their tractors easier

  • @danielwhyatt3278
    @danielwhyatt3278 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much for this detailed analysis and helps to clarify some of the information and images we're receiving.

  • @eddietat95
    @eddietat95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just wait 'til you see the glorious T-14 Armata fully replace these old tanks (to be completed in the year 2077).

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Military is an expensive money sink y'know
      Most of NATO hasnt even finished developing its next gen of combat vehicles.

    • @pedroperez6676
      @pedroperez6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rodi8266 True that. We always laugh at Russian's outdated equipment, but most european main combat vehicles are as old, if not older. E.g: I'm Spanish and we still use the M113 and BMR APCs designed in the 1960s. And NO, not all of them are upgraded with "DUh ThErMAl SigHTs"
      What we Europeans (I suppose) have that Russia seem to lack in this war is proper training, good maintenance, capable and professional officers, good air-to-ground coordination, better logistics...

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pedroperez6676 Idk how good our NATO qualities are. I just need to look at my own countries military to see how incredibly dysfunctional armies can become.

    • @pedroperez6676
      @pedroperez6676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rodi8266 Which NATO country are you from? Honestly, most of our militaries (save for the US, France and perhaps the UK) look really underequipped but the training seems good, I know a lot of military men in Spain and I can assure they are as well trained as spartans.

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pedroperez6676 The one that was on the frontline before the Iron Curtain fell lmao

  • @liammarra4003
    @liammarra4003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The T-80U/UMs are good looking tanks. Best looking "round turret-esque" of them all.
    T-90Ms are probably the best looking Russian tanks ever IMO. The one T-80UM2 (Black eagle) was as well.

  • @janhermanvanman9581
    @janhermanvanman9581 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    T80BVM is only scary on paper. It's a base model of T80B with Relikt package, new sights, gun and engine. T64B and T80B offer similar level of protection excluding ERA packages. T80U is exception since it's a uparmored variant.
    Anyways, all comes down to how this tanks are used in combat, Russians are proving that they simply don't know how to use their own tanks, I haven't seen any footage of Ukraian tanks in combat, but T64s positioned in ambushes/defence, attacking from side and concealed positions would be a match to any russian tank deployed in Ukraine.

    • @user-wj7vk9zu8j
      @user-wj7vk9zu8j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You only see what is shown to you.

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Relikt, not Kontakt-5

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@user-wj7vk9zu8j what is shown to us is embarrassing

    • @user-wj7vk9zu8j
      @user-wj7vk9zu8j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LOLHAMMER45678 The truth will be shown to you much later, when interest in these events subsidies.

    • @user-wj7vk9zu8j
      @user-wj7vk9zu8j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Scaucy man 2.0 So live with this knowledge.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    St Javelin blesses their hearts.

  • @S.Fortunato
    @S.Fortunato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've heard rumors that now they're issuing seed dispensers as standard at the platoon level

  • @volairn70
    @volairn70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just fantastic work. While the media cannot seem but to take a side and propagandize the hell out of this, so many youtubers like yourself are bringing impartial historical information that makes it much easier to try and get a picture of how this war is being fought by both sides, and how the structure of those units is organized and to a degree coordinated. I think channels like yours are actually going to have a solid place in the factual, historical study of this war when the dust settles and people start writing books. Thanks for this!

  • @tasman006
    @tasman006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Very informative would like to know about the use of Russian T90 tanks also if you can find the information.

    • @khaid.5167
      @khaid.5167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm waiting for the video about T-90M tanks and Su-57 fighter in Ukraine war.

    • @LOLHAMMER45678
      @LOLHAMMER45678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@khaid.5167 neither one has shown up yet. T-90M maybe, Su-57 zero chance

    • @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394
      @lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LOLHAMMER45678 the SU-57 is advertised as a stealth fighter so…

    • @Killerpixel11
      @Killerpixel11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 They have like 5 of them. It's not gonna be used. There'd be no point, even if they had more. There's very few, if any, radar based Ukrainian AA left, it's mostly Manpads...where stealth doesn't matter.

    • @Wow.yaroslav
      @Wow.yaroslav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@khaid.5167 guys T90M, is getting destroyed by javelin, nlow and so on, like any other armoured vehicle.

  • @discover854
    @discover854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I read somewhere that this conflict in Ukraine is the greatest advertisement of Western arms we have ever seen. Every countries is sending their stuff for the Ukrainian to test in modern day battlefield against the Russians which was one of the largest arms dealer next to the US. From the conclusions, it seems most of the countries that still have Russian products are dumping them as fast as they can and looking towards the West for their arms.

    • @ekulerudamuru
      @ekulerudamuru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Russians always make the cheaper and less complicated products, only countries that are ich enough can really afford to purchase western made ones, also cheaper=more equipment, doubt those countries will buy western arms soon

    • @VarietyGamerChannel
      @VarietyGamerChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was 'somewhere' out your arse?

  • @opoxious1592
    @opoxious1592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Well, it would be better to call these tanks "The Flying Turret Tanks"

    • @MattyC62185
      @MattyC62185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The T 72 is called the flying Turret tank Because the turret flies off when those get hit as 1991 showed

    • @jacopofolin6400
      @jacopofolin6400 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@worldoftancraft ?

  • @a.N.....
    @a.N..... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What also funny is how america doesnt keep an old surplus of tanks in storage, and here we see why running with old gear just gets your men turned into crispy critters

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They are. US Army has about 2000 M1 Abrams in active service and twice than that kept in reserve.

    • @Bruno-ec8ft
      @Bruno-ec8ft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean the US does keep large amount of older airplane in storage, but also, the US can afford to replace their tanks because their budget is 10 time the Russian one.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bruno-ec8ft thing is this war has proven that old tanks are a money sink and frankly more a hazard to your own men than an asset.

    • @a.N.....
      @a.N..... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm talking about tanks people, if we followed russia doctrine we would have a fleet of Sherman's rolling around and we dont..

    • @ClayinSWVA
      @ClayinSWVA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@norbi1411 Yes, but we don't keep models from 3 or 4 different programs in reserves. They are basically the same chassis and if pulled from storage they would probably go thru an upgrade cycle. I still can't believe that the Russians are deploying tanks with the same optics from 80's with no thermal sights in 2022.

  • @majed8192
    @majed8192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Can you make a video on the use of the T-90 in Ukraine and how effective it was?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Potentially

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hard to do, when Russia insists on using tanks in dumb manner.

    • @digimaks
      @digimaks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are no T-90's in Urkaine's operation. They are not practical there.

    • @majed8192
      @majed8192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@digimaks T-90s have been used in Ukraine and that's a fact, look it up if you want, and if you're refering to Battle Order's pinned comment about the matter, he was talking about a specific variant of the T-90 "T-90M", the T-90A has been definitely used in Ukraine

  • @WoobooRidesAgain
    @WoobooRidesAgain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    7:04
    At the risk of sounding hyperbolic, am I the only one who thinks that also looks like a tomb stone?

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah I see the tombstone on it

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought doorway too. GTFO is also an appropriate response IMO. XD

  • @MegaDanielSJ
    @MegaDanielSJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The quality of your videos is just amazing...

  • @ericvardek4108
    @ericvardek4108 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Order of battle and MBT analysis on the web. Keep up the great work.

  • @brdd514
    @brdd514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Would love to see an analysis of effectiveness of the AT systems are having on the armor. Ex. 280/300 JAVs shot from (input source) shows an effectiveness of 90% while the NLAW is… and so on

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's exaggerated.
      In Syria which was very ATGM-friendly environment two out three missiles hit the target. And out of those two , one was able to inflict damege or destroy target.
      Same goes for Javelin. During field test in Poland it achieved 50-70% hit ratio, but during bad weather it dropped to 20-30%. For NLAW it's even lower.
      BLOS systems like Spike or MMP that have man in the loop are more accurate.

    • @brdd514
      @brdd514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@norbi1411 yep! Exactly why am analysis would be great. Seeing the TOWs bounce off armor was crazy, but made sense finding out they’re the old TOW-2 and not the TOW-2B.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Javelins have been highly effective and I doubt they are defeatable, but are precious and require substantial training. The overwhelming majority of missile shots are NLAW, which again has been highly effective, against older and uprated units with add-on reactive armor kits. However, they've proven ineffective against modern units with integrated countermeasures. Theres several videos showing NLAW shots being defeated. The overwhelming number of attacks are from total shitshow artillery bombardments, destroying residential neighborhoods and small towns, shooting at anything moving on the roads. For example the video from a few days ago that allegedly destroyed 6 tanks and killed a 'top commander', is about 10 seconds of clips, stitched together from about a 20 min battle that blasted the neighborhood around it to toothpicks, to randomly get a tank and a couple of APC, while letting 50+ armor pieces escape and redeploy.

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@springbloom5940 If NLAW hits ERA it will be stopped.
      Another thing worth mentioning is the enormous quantity of domestically build ATGMs like Corsair, Stugna or Skiff which are the real back bone of Ukrainian anti tank defense. Not to mention equally enormous quantiti of older systems like Konkurs from Soviet era. People seeing all those NLAW and Javelin memes tend to forget about that.

    • @Killerpixel11
      @Killerpixel11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@norbi1411 The difference is that the NLAW and to a somewhat lesser extent the Javelin, are much more portable. Even the Corsar, which is Ukraine's "portable" ATGM, is more than twice the weight of a complete Javelin (CLU+Missile). Of course the other systems are gonna be equally, if not more effective, but they have to be used in fixed emplacements and can't easily be displaced. They're gonna be fantastic in fixed ambushes, but they can't react to changes....and any missile is more effective than the one you can't fire.
      Overstatements or not, Javelin and especially the NLAW provide capability to small, highly mobile units, that RPG variants, AT-4s and Panzerfausts just cannot duplicate. Having some guy with a guided, fire-and-forget ATGM just slung over his back and trekking it, while still being able to very quickly use it, is ONLY possible with the NLAW.

  • @hillrambler2007
    @hillrambler2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found your video while attempting to identify some of the tanks that have been shown. Great work and excellent report! I have subscribed!

  • @JagdWehrwolf
    @JagdWehrwolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    T-80 'Flying Turret Tank'. There, I fixed it for you...

    • @alifio2183
      @alifio2183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      All T series have tradition of "Sudden Unscheduled Turret Disassembly" when hit in the middle :)
      That includes ukraine T64's. Every. Fucking. T- tank series.
      Morals= don't buy the T series.

    • @xSRGman
      @xSRGman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alifio2183 that’s what happens when you stash the ammo with the crew ;)

    • @alifio2183
      @alifio2183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xSRGman more accurately, that's why you DON'T sit on explosives :D

    • @run2u520
      @run2u520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alifio2183 Except for the newer models like the T90M and T-14. Problem is that there probably won't ever be enough of them for Russia to field let alone sell to any countries that might show interest.

    • @alifio2183
      @alifio2183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@run2u520 Lol T14 armata producer declared bankruptcy few years back. The batch of new tanks haven't delivered as promised. With new sanctions it may never going to be delivered at all. They barely able to put it into production before and now it's like hoping for a gift from God.

  • @jamesngotts
    @jamesngotts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another good video using factual break downs of the events in Ukraine. Thank you

  • @quiahjohnson5871
    @quiahjohnson5871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Is the 4th guard supposed to be an Elite Unit?

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes

    • @stevenbreach2561
      @stevenbreach2561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "elite"means "sober some of the time" in Russian parlamce

    • @fleurdetristesse5218
      @fleurdetristesse5218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Units with "guard" in their title are supposed to be the créme de la créme of the army. It's an old tradition that dates back to the Russian Empire. So to answer your question, yes.

    • @adolfshitler
      @adolfshitler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stevenbreach2561
      🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂

    • @quiahjohnson5871
      @quiahjohnson5871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fleurdetristesse5218 Sooo from what I can understand from this video is that their Créme de la Créme is not doing so good?

  • @bambang303378
    @bambang303378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4th Guards tank division supposed to be the "elite" tank unit of the Russian Army. Yet they were wiped out in the battle near chocolate factory. They should put that in their museum "Battle of chocolate factory" (Where we got our shit kicked out by Ukrainian)

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “We were stabbed in the back by Willy Wonka!”

  • @elisgemr5191
    @elisgemr5191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Can you make a video explaining the T-90s and their new Cope Cage™ anti -javelin technology?

    • @plazmica0323
      @plazmica0323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Reddit moment lul

    • @jacopofolin6400
      @jacopofolin6400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Cage don't work, Is more for psicological reasons

    • @Strelok10
      @Strelok10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacopofolin6400 It works, its just not what you think it is.
      Javelin goes through it sure, but after Syria and Karabakh where their tanks optics got trashed by a 150$ drone requiring repair and refit, they took note.

    • @eddietat95
      @eddietat95 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoever bought Cope Cage ™ should ask for their money back.

    • @longyu9336
      @longyu9336 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      why are the t-80s not equipped with cope cages?

  • @MattWagner
    @MattWagner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great research, thanks.

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    imagine stocking parts for each of these updated versions.

  • @importantname
    @importantname 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    watching armour train on flat open ground using parade ground formations is impressive, pure military might. Battle is rarely on the parade ground.

  • @keimolantio
    @keimolantio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you think those different acronyms "V", "O, "Z"..."Voz" in Russia (as a noun) means "the act of one who returns; a coming back. ". Can't be a coincident

    • @corvanphoenix
      @corvanphoenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! That's great! I had heard they might be V = West; O = East; Z = South, a box around the guys from the far east's south.

  • @TimberwolfCY
    @TimberwolfCY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. Caught a few of your videos now; you earned a sub with this one! Thank you for your work!

  • @Radico87
    @Radico87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good to know what they look like before they're turned to char.

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Ukrainian Special Forces - “We captured a tank.”
    Ukrainian Farmer - “Neat, I got five so far.”

  • @nobodynoname6062
    @nobodynoname6062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    BV, BVM or BU, it all doesn't matter. The one thing Russian tanks are any good at is launching their turrets into the sky when hit.

    • @marza339
      @marza339 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you think the word "flying" is in the title?

  • @Decicamo
    @Decicamo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just show them the camo pattern, that's should be enough evidence to prove whether tanks are Russian or Ukrainian

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Many Russian vehicles are just plain green, I haven't seen many camouflage patterns.

    • @Decicamo
      @Decicamo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@flitsertheo that's what I'm talking about, most of the Ukrainian vehicles have their camo pattern unlike Russia that is mainly green or white

    • @skywatcher1972
      @skywatcher1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Decicamo You're right! Still. . . very impressive research here. Your dog, i see, has tan and white markings. What nationality is THAT?

  • @black__bread
    @black__bread 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think what's funny/tragic here is the obvious wide margin between what the organisation charts say and what's being seen on the ground, in particular there's an implicit assumption this kit is well maintained.

  • @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
    @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Ukrainian Farmers: Is for me?

  • @Camilo19832001
    @Camilo19832001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Flying tank thats gonna get destroyed by Saint Javelin

  • @karlp8484
    @karlp8484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't understand the mentality of abandoning tanks that are still operational. Even if you get your track blown off, you don't abandon your tank. You fix it.

    • @peteflynn3923
      @peteflynn3923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You do if there’s no assistance and don’t want to be killed! I don’t think they want to bother with fixing anything.

    • @sababugs1125
      @sababugs1125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they're stuck then you have to abandon them until the second wave or else you're sitting in the open

    • @kurousagi8155
      @kurousagi8155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Russians only crew 3 men per tank. So their repairs take a lot longer than a 4 man western crew.

  • @PotatoeJoe69
    @PotatoeJoe69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Should be renamed "4th Guard, Flying Turrets" based off how many of those turrets have gone flying in the air after being smacked by St. Javelin.

    • @PewPewPlasmagun
      @PewPewPlasmagun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pathetic. Javelins are almost useless outside of urban environment due to the pathetic range.

    • @spamheat4fun144
      @spamheat4fun144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@PewPewPlasmagun russian bot at it again

    • @randombrit4504
      @randombrit4504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@PewPewPlasmagun Y'know, I don't think 2.5 miles can really be considered 'pathetic' range.

    • @PotatoeJoe69
      @PotatoeJoe69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PewPewPlasmagun 2.5 miles is pathetic? I'm pretty sure the Javelin has one of, if not THE longest effective range of ANY man portable anti tank missiles system lmao

  • @schlirf
    @schlirf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still haven't seen many BMP-3s. Strange.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They're here and there, especially in the south. They're just less numerous than the BMP-2.

    • @schlirf
      @schlirf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BattleOrder thanks. I would seem that the Russians of a lesser god aren't equipped with them.

    • @landcruiser6406
      @landcruiser6406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BattleOrder Where did you source the information from?

  • @wannabecriminalman
    @wannabecriminalman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well, the turret flies, at least.

  • @jars6230
    @jars6230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What is the likelihood the Ukrainians are keeping much of their armour in reserve, and is relying on infantry anti tank weapons at this stage. So if the opportunity to advance later comes up, they still have armour. Because, if Russian armour is susceptible to drone strikes, so is Ukrainian.

    • @shmeckle666
      @shmeckle666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correct, that's probably the case. Or used when the odds are the best that they will be able to properly fire and maneuver. And you are correct, anything that Russian MBTs are susceptible too, so will Ukrainian MBTs. Ukraine been on the defensive, using tactical retreats, etc.. But when Ukraine goes on the offensive to retake any towns, a city (other than relatively quick exchanging of control of a town changing hands by the hour or day), things may get much more challenging. I'm sure they wont be doing unsupported thunder runs or getting their armored vehicles into urban areas unsupported by dismounted infantry. But nevertheless, Ukraine will be the one attaching, Russia defending. And all other things being equal, the urban fight for the attacker/counter attacker is just as brutal and difficult.

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shmeckle666 Soviet tanks are build to attack (as their terrible slow reverse gear, of which they only have one, proves). It was the doctrine. So Ukraine army has to think hard to use their tanks in the best way.

    • @ArchivatorRUS
      @ArchivatorRUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There are absolutely no chances for major counterattacks from Ukrainian tank units.
      First, they have no fuel. Russia disabled most of the country's major fuel depots. And confirmation of this is the abandoned tank battalion in the city of Volnovakha. Half of the tanks went to the DPR forces intact with empty or almost empty tanks.
      Secondly, the complete superiority of Russian aviation completely hampers the ability to carry out such attacks. Ukraine has already tried to carry out counterattacks with large forces in separate directions. For example, the forces of two infantry battalions with a company of tanks from the city of Zmiev to Balakliya, in the Kharkov region. They even broke into Balakleya on the outskirts, but aircraft flew in and bombed everything.
      So they will hide in the cities, and Russia will block everything over time.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ArchivatorRUS Russians still dont have air superiority in Ukraine.

    • @ArchivatorRUS
      @ArchivatorRUS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@baneofbanes Pfft, are you sure?

  • @Tomas.X
    @Tomas.X 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Russian tanks easily identified: Turrets being relocated 20 meters from remainder of tank, as well ad nose to tail formation, maximizing suicidal destruction. A fine tactic.

    • @daviddorger6916
      @daviddorger6916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes along with the ITR strategy. (I Take Roads) lol

  • @firstconsul7286
    @firstconsul7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    5:49 Also, this tank says Russia/Russian (Russia is the only Cyrillic word I know on sight, and given the extra backwards N instead of an A, I'm guessing it means Russian) on the bottom front plate.
    6:19 You probably saw this, but the tank on the left also has the tac marker on the right side, almost blocked by the 2nd tank.

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ukrainian has the backwards N too, but in Ukrainian it would be Росії

    • @gianb3952
      @gianb3952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "russian" in russian is "ruski" (don't have a cirylic keyboard sorry). That tank says "racii" with double i. that's russia declensed in some case (maybe genitive or accusative). TLDR It means "russia"

    • @firstconsul7286
      @firstconsul7286 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gianb3952 Ok, thanks

    • @Squee.1366
      @Squee.1366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gianb3952 It's a difference between state and ethnic definition in russian language. Many languages use one word for both ("russian" in english). But in russian language they use different words:
      российский (rossiyski - "russian"); россии (rossii - "of russia") in case of state and
      русский (russki - "russian") in case of ethnicity and/or nationality

    • @gianb3952
      @gianb3952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squee.1366 Thanks, I didn't know that :)

  • @EuroFighter59
    @EuroFighter59 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now what we need is a video that explains all the differences between russian and ukrainian tank variants. It'd be so damn useful

  • @johnnytopside9745
    @johnnytopside9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yay finally an answer to the red hexagon! I've been looking for that info for weeks!

  • @jolyroger9224
    @jolyroger9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Waiting for t90A (2004) analysis which have been already captured by Ukrainians .
    Also analysis vdv units , big part of whom were either captured on KiA.
    And btw I’d like you guys to make the emphasis on those regiments. For example 4thGTD (Kantenirovskaya) was )) the elitest division , next to the 2nd guards (tamanskaya) , as well as 200th Motorifles . Other than that great job done.

    • @onemanwithin
      @onemanwithin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's because the vdv units did not suffer as much casualties as expected and they never did capture T90A they held on to those airports and they never gave them up

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Iam yet to see any evidence of the supposed annihilation of those VDV units. So far the only "evidence" is ukrainian propaganda hearsay, and stock footage from times gone by.
      Ive even seen footage from 2008 and the 2nd chechen war posted in relation to 2022.

    • @jolyroger9224
      @jolyroger9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodi8266 lol you real ? Half of the internet is full of destroyed BMD4M , which can’t be used in 2008 , tons of dead meat on Ukrainian streets , and most importantly THIS CHANNEL HAS A VIDEO WHICH SHOWS ABANDONED/DESTROYED BMD4M

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jolyroger9224 Abandoned/Destroyed BMD4M does not equal the claims of ukraine killing/capturing "all" of the VDV deployed around various airfields.
      2008 and similar footage was shown in regards to tank losses and general "dead russian soldier lmao" scenarios

    • @jolyroger9224
      @jolyroger9224 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rodi8266 Did I say about all VDV being captured , meanwhile which Ukraine said that it destroyed all vdv or Russian federation ? It has been said that any vdv that tried to land was destroyed , some ground units of vdv are still operational and are stationed north of Kiev rn

  • @drstihl2007
    @drstihl2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention that they are incredibly polite tanks and always take their hat off when they see a fine lady anti tank missile.

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice concise video. The evidence you demonstrate clears up some issues for me regarding tank identification and unit of origin. I’m certain the Ukrainian loss estimates are on the optimistic side but it is clear that Putin expected a cake walk and those plans were rudely upended. The Russians continue to advance, however.

  • @travelinman70
    @travelinman70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mind is blown, how can supply lines support all these field variants. no wonder Logististic cannot keep up.

  • @albertwernsdorfer5193
    @albertwernsdorfer5193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can you do a huge video describing the organization of russian forces in Ukraine?

  • @chaosfire321
    @chaosfire321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:16 T-14s: *breathes sigh of relief.*

  • @johnxina987
    @johnxina987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    On the other hand auto-loader in T family limits space in the turrets so the major number of ammunition is located in tank body - it makes tank extremely vulnerable and very limits chances for crew survival after being hit. That's why quite often you can notice t-80 flying turrets after being hit by some ATGMs.

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Russians had the same problem with T-80 and T-72 during first battle of Grozny. When they reduced ammo load to only what was in autoloader problem of high crew casualties basically vanished.

    • @ThomasEPeters
      @ThomasEPeters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@norbi1411 No it did not. Yes removing the 16 loose rounds in the fighting compartment helped. But the 28 rounds in the carousel are more than enough and there's no internal protection to keep spalling out of the magazine. And no space to add any.

  • @ivoferin8176
    @ivoferin8176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work there mate. May I propose a video explaining the different variants of RFA and how to identify them? Theres actually very scarce info around.... putting them like in a tech tree would be much appreciated.

  • @piotrd.4850
    @piotrd.4850 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nothing wrong with the tanks. Russia has PLANNING problem, MAINTENANCE problem, LOGISTICAL problem, TRAINING problem, PLAN problem .... in short PEOPLE PROBLEM!

    • @nutyyyy
      @nutyyyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And issues with combined arms warfare. Plus having to stick to the roads to avoid mud while also lacking majorly in thermals and GPS leaves you pretty exposed to potential ambushes.

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually the main problem was and is lack of manpower. Russians brought less than half of the troops required to take country size of Ukraine. Why? Don't know.

    • @killer3000ad
      @killer3000ad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@norbi1411 Russia's leadership was delusional and thought they Ukrainians would collapse quickly. They apparently found parade uniforms in the belongings of the first wave of invading troops. Those idiots thought they were gonna win so quickly that they were already preparing for a military parade.

    • @Kembangtelon94
      @Kembangtelon94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killer3000ad what make me confuse russian had urban tactics experience from syrian war, and they just use same shit tactic like early syrian used lol.

  • @WachtAmWeb
    @WachtAmWeb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's now July 2022 and Oryx has tracked more than 150 Russian T-80 variants destroyed or captured in Ukraine - getting on for 1/3 of their deployed strength, with dwindling ability to refit older ones and only stocks of older tanks to fall back on. Incredible.

  • @t-90atank35
    @t-90atank35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the eye of the javelins and NLAW, its all russian tanks haha

  • @SevenSixTwo2012
    @SevenSixTwo2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many years ago I've been told by someone form the old Com Block that a common flaw with these Russian tanks was that the driver can accidentally have his head decapitated by the turret, if it moves while he's driving with the hatch open and his head sticking out. The video at 8:00 seems to confirm this possibility, lol! 😮

  • @moritamikamikara3879
    @moritamikamikara3879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly Soviet tanks just seem to be doing ass.
    The Russian T-72s, even the upgraded and modernised ones seem to be just getting fucked up one after another, and the Ukrainian T-64s seem to be doing only vaguely better on the basis of there being fewer of them and being used less often so we see less footage of them getting fucked up.
    "Please help... we're trying to stay warm by the smouldering heat of our fucked up destroyed vehicles..." -Pvt. Maxorov Somilorovich, 4th Guards tank battalion, 2022

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One word opsec. Ukrainian government is trying to create an image(successfully btw) that the Russian Army was stopped by students, plumbers, postmen armed with molotov cocktails, grenade lauchers or MAPDADs. Nothing further from the truth. In fact almost all of the fighting is done by regular and guard mech and tank units.

    • @adolfshitler
      @adolfshitler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was that actually a radio message?

    • @TheDinofan2
      @TheDinofan2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at what happenned to the turkish Leopard 2 in Syria

    • @moritamikamikara3879
      @moritamikamikara3879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@adolfshitler No lol.
      It's a reference to an ARMA III video by a guy called Max0r called "Sharp blades and hand grenades"
      It's extremely funny.

    • @adolfshitler
      @adolfshitler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@moritamikamikara3879
      That's such a pity 😟

  • @soulbikes
    @soulbikes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched a video about 20 minutes ago produced by Russia saying a factory near Moscow and one in Siberia that have been refurbishing T-80B and BV into BVM for decades have recently broken out the casting tooling and are making new BVM and BV T-80's from scratch again as they are running out of BVM battle damaged to refurbish and need to make new units. They claim to be able to do 50 per month once the old subcontractors are up and running again. They have redesigned the turret and body coupler, improved coupler armor, and sunken the auto loader storage rack to try and eliminate cook off, and pop goes the turret. The transmission has been regearerd for better fuel economy and more low speed a d rpm torque. The 100mm cannon will now be a rfled 110mm. On top of that, the armor has been doubled, and the addition of hundreds of tiny diamonds or pyramid shaped charges will protect from overhead rocket explosion. Also on top a new electronically operated and aimed, water cooled barells, 6 barrel .50 cal gatling gun firing 1,700 rounds per minute with a 2 shot anti armor rocket launcher like what if found on the American Bradley so if the carousel is loaded with anti bunker and they go against a tank they font have to manually load a Heat round. New night optics with infrared, thermal, motion hyper focus and ultraviolet modes.
    Overall a more survivable, more efficient, more Deadly machine.
    This is technically a BMT model bacon mayo tomato. My favorite

  • @webcrawler9782
    @webcrawler9782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Javelin doesn't care if it's an T-80, T-72 or a T-64

    • @nettopicko7652
      @nettopicko7652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah . Abrams , Leopard and many others too.

    • @timeframe4985
      @timeframe4985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty sure all tanks east or west wouldn't survive a Javelin hit.

    • @johanlassen6448
      @johanlassen6448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timeframe4985 Correct. M1 would have the best chance to avoid total destruction due to all its ammo being compartmentalized but it too would probably get fucked pretty hard anyway.
      Best way to survive a Javelin is to not get hit.

  • @Matamoros212
    @Matamoros212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the "flying" part has now a pretty dark undertone

  • @sfigatto_0167
    @sfigatto_0167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember the explosion of the Turkish Leopard’s, those tanks had an entire space programme

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One to be exact. And only because some idiot parked in the open terrain without any cover...

    • @shmeckle666
      @shmeckle666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@norbi1411 And? Drive an Abrams into a mountain pass in northern Yemen and watch it blow, cook, and burn--possibly with its woefully impotent Saudi military personnel roasting with it or fleeing at the first ricochet off the armor. Saunter down the street in a T80/72 In Ukraine without any dismount support and take a NLAW to the side and cook.
      Peeps online don't care why. Only that the tank is dead, and thus clearly utter trash.

    • @neodym5809
      @neodym5809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@shmeckle666 You can have the best equipment, if you use it in a terrible way, it will not matter.

    • @markusplotz2259
      @markusplotz2259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@neodym5809 yeap a T55 with a crew which knows how to operate it is better than a Leo/Abrams whatever with people inside which has no idea.

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shmeckle666 And you wrote the same thing I, just with different words...

  • @CrimeOfTheTrueKind
    @CrimeOfTheTrueKind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great work thanks! been looking for a channel like this for a while

  • @trevortrevortsr2
    @trevortrevortsr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The NLAW likes them all

    • @eduwino151
      @eduwino151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL 3 million dollar tank and trained crew killed in seconds by a single guy who spent 10 minutes learning to shoot the NLAW, we should flood the country with thousands of those things and make it suicide to drive around in a tank

    • @trevortrevortsr2
      @trevortrevortsr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@eduwino151 UK sent 3615 to date with more in transit - The game changer will be when Ukraine employ the Starstreak 2 which will rid the sky of fast jets over the cities

    • @norbi1411
      @norbi1411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevortrevortsr2 gamechanger? XD

    • @trevortrevortsr2
      @trevortrevortsr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@norbi1411 I think the rumored 1200 Starstreak 2 will make the cities safer from cruise missiles and fast jets

    • @eduwino151
      @eduwino151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trevortrevortsr2 the real game changer is taking out Russian amor if 5000 get knocked out, Putins invasion will grind to a halt , his airstrikes are not that militarily effective against dispersed Ukrainian troops and , russia doesn have enough bombs for prolonged airstrikes

  • @strate6002
    @strate6002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The graph at the start is kinda weird the T80UE-1 are essentialy T80UD turrets on an T80U hull so basically they would fit after the T80U and not T80B because the hull isn't the same..the T80BVM does fit it uses the T80BV or more precise also the T80B as basis

  • @maxcelcat
    @maxcelcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'd be very interested to see a video about Ukrainian tactical markings. Actually, wait, belay that, that information might be best kept concealed 😬

    • @flitsertheo
      @flitsertheo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The improvised tactical markings on newly acquired Russian vehicles may be even more interesting.

  • @v13r3r
    @v13r3r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Next youre going to tell us which factories made each of those destroyed tanks and all the possible workers who put it together

    • @user-ki2kp9xe8n
      @user-ki2kp9xe8n 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Modifications T-80, T-80B(1979-1984), Т-80BV (1985-1988),T-80U(1988-1994), T-80BVM (2017-…) were produced at the Omsk Tank Plant. Modification of T-80UD (1988-1996) - at the Kharkov Tank Plant

  • @anaMoc1038
    @anaMoc1038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Victory in Ukraine “-DW
    (NATO must host an Insurgency)
    Zelensky should immediately give a break contact order fall back to NATO territory. Regroup, resupply, train, infiltrate, and disrupt.
    Shift from a limited defender to an offensive insurgency. Cause the larger, superior invader to become a stagnant defender, or force them to invade NATO territory. Let the sanctions take hold, then launch a major offensive.
    We all know what happened to the extremists that choose to stay, and defend in Fallujah, Iraq. They were eliminated in weeks. The downfall of NATO in Iraq was the inability to stop the insurgency.
    In Vietnam the Ho Chi Minh trail was an Insurgency from the North, while battles could be won against defenders in short time in cities like Hue. The constant insurgency along the Ho Chi Minh route was not thwarted.
    NATO cannot engage in direct battle with the Russian, NATO cannot enforce a no fly zone, but NATO can deliver weapons, and aid. So it is certainly viable that it’s best option is not to support a temporary defensive guise, but an absolute offense.
    NATO SHOULD HOST AN INSURGENCY

    • @shmeckle666
      @shmeckle666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a good way to turn Ukraine into the next Syria, which it will become, only faster. The number of weapons, kit, foreign fighters, and corruption abound in the arms procurement process in Ukraine and Russia. M.m.m.m.mmm, come one, and come all. Plenty to shoot, and plenty to shoot at.

    • @rodi8266
      @rodi8266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do you want more people to die over a drawn out conflict. Civilians wont be able to return for a decade or more and those remaining will live in perpetual state of war, a new failed state.
      WTF is wrong with you?!

    • @thetruth7633
      @thetruth7633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You take the refugees into your house then, I don’t want in my country

  • @Trojan0304
    @Trojan0304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all your research, best breakdown on TH-cam

  • @TOMAS-lh4er
    @TOMAS-lh4er 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DAM !!! This is a great channel !! Glad I just found it !! Thanks .

  • @rayankaghasi5380
    @rayankaghasi5380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    they may have good equipments , but without good tactics , ther worth zero...👉

  • @dingodog5677
    @dingodog5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you cover Ukraine loses too? I saw video of abandoned Ukraine vehicles and tanks, so it’s a thing. All for balance.

  • @user-ic4rw5cf3x
    @user-ic4rw5cf3x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7:30 Captured by special forces, what? Is the special forces capturing a tank? For what? It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
    It's an abandoned technique, lol. When a military column is moving, a vehicle that is faulty, rushes in order not to lose the speed of column. The same thing happens if the vehicles gets stuck in the mud or breaks down. And by the way, the map with position of the zone of influence is not correct.
    Sorry for bad English.