For those curious, the only tank in service we haven't seen as of posting is the T-90M (there's probably only about 2 battalion sets in the Russian Army, although one of the units that has them, the 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division, is in Ukraine so we might see them at some point). We also haven't seen the T-14 Armata, because it is notably not in active service. And a lot of Russian simps complained about this point: Russia DOES have T-72As and T-72Bs in active service, and they have been observed in Ukraine. Many older un-upgraded T-72s were taken out of storage in recent years to fill out the new divisions they reformed. The 90th Guards Tank Division, which is in Ukraine around Chernihiv, was one of these units. If you're Russian you can literally Google (or Yandex?) this information. I've even seen Russian tank experts (who definitely don't seem to be that sympathetic to Ukraine) acknowledge Russian T-72As in Ukraine.
Great analysis of the markings found that really insightful. I’m consuming so much information on this currently and coming from a non-military background have little basis to discard fact from fiction.
My military background comes from Call of Duty and Battlefield 4. I am a Level 100 colonel general of the army at 25th prestige. I knew these markings before the war broke out.
I've always been interested in this sort of information, but the research is way too meticulous for me. I appreciate how these videos do the heavy lifting for me and reorganize the information into an easily digestible format. Keep up the good work!
I heard that at least one Russian T80-BVM captured has been seen in use by the 93rd Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. What better way than to grab the abandoned tanks and use it as yours.
Yeah it's a shame those fuel convoys are so much easier to blow up than capture intact 🙁 assuming the various types of fuel hasn't already been drained out or used for heat while stuck on the highway "accidentally" 😉👍 good job to those Russian soldiers, and to the Chinese tire manufacturers of course 🤝
NATO has sent thousands of modern missiles to Ukraine. Many of them will be sold on the black market to ISIS and Al Qaeda. ISIS and Al Qaeda will use American Stinger missiles to shoot down Western passenger planes. You or your family could be killed by American weapons.
@Анастасия Борисова Everywhere? Maybe they'd win everywhere if their tanks didn't run out of fuel constantly. Russia can't operate more then 100km into Ukrainian soil because of logistic issues.
@@maarten1115 I agree with this statement, I don't think the T-80 is a failure (in-fact Im quite sure a good majority were captured/abandoned). It's more the fact that they're fuel hungry and given Russia's poor logistics with Trucks it makes sense why it resulted in that. We know that even back in the 1st Chechen War that the T-80s Gas Turbine was an issue due to this; but at the same time without the gas turbine on they lose practically all their systems. Edit: Note that any tank in any country would get blown up by Top-down attacks; including Leopards, Challengers and M1s, the penetration of these ATGMs are high and would require APS systems to take them down effectively (which currently only Israel fields on a mass scale).
Would love to see a break down of other Russian tanks (T-72 and T-90) and Ukraine's T-64BV and T-64BMs. Meanwhile, Ukrainian farmers are busily noting the best place to attach a tow cable.
My buddy served as a conscript in the 4th Guards Tank Division. The first captured T-80U is the one on which he served. According to him, almost 30% of his battalion was inoperative and this was in 2020. The general condition of the tanks was also very poor, they needed major repairs.
You essentially doxed your buddy and he has given military intel to you. Russia is a totalitarian dictatorship. I would delete this comment if I were you
Soviet tanks are, by design, hard to repair. It takes a couple of days to replace the engine. Different doctrine, they valued small size and cheaper construction costs over easy maintenance.
I think the logisitics failure in the initial sstage of the invasion, and argueably even now, coupled with the T-80s gas guzzling engine, led to many of them just being abandoned.
I've read from veteran anti tank soldiers (one of which had been using Russian tactics in war game training) saying that the logistics aren't necessarily "bad" but just not set up to fight this kind of war. The Russian doctrine is still set for a nuclear style war and isn't sufficient for this kind of conflict. Still shows a failure to adapt. That and the overall lack of training and quality equipment. The Russian bear seems more like a paper tiger.
@@709mash don't forget when he said that in war they push the old equipments and conscripts first to suck supplies and ammunition, ATs and AAs out of the enemy. Then the real army come.
@@aminech6342 The "real army"? What, Guard Units and the mighty (lol) VDV not "real" enough? What else is there to send? Some T-90M, maybe? Equipment is not gonna make the difference in this conflict, they already failed.
@@aminech6342 as more time goes on, Ukraine gets stronger everyday by receiving more manpower and supplies, while Russia becomes weaker by the day because of the sanctions
Wow, this type of high-quality content is so hard to find. Tactical / unit symbols and command structures give so much more insight into what’s going on than big red arrows in the usual media reporting, provided you know what a brigade, battalion etc is. Subscribed.
The director of the german tank museum did a very good analysis video on the russian t-series tanks... He explained that the T-72, T-80 and T-90 cannot be seen as following generations, but more as improved versions of a tank chassy that pretty much hasn´t changed since the T-64... For example T-80 and T-90 cannot be compared in terms of technichal upgrades and new innovations like the leopard 1 and leopard2... They are more like the Leopard 2A4, 2A5, 2A6 and so on...
Hence the biggest problems with the Russian tank force right now. While most of the world is using tanks that were actually designed in the 1970s and 80s, the Russians are effectively just using upteched versions of machines made in the 1960s.
@@Namelessthe3rd Which in my opinion is their huge downfall. No matter how many upgrades you put on a single chassis it will still be the same outdated vehicle from the 70-80's. No wonder Putin is scared of Abrams, Leopards, Merkavas, Challengers, etc.
@@Loplyful Yes Vladimir is pissing his pants by how well the Abrahams performed in Afghanistan, taken out by rooftop gasoline bottle throwers or 40 year old RPGs
@@Loplyful Thats like a Ship of Theseus - question here ... how much can you change until it becomes something else? Just changing the gun or the engine alone can completely change how a vehicle can be used; (see Pz IV with a "normal" anti tank gun, compared to a Pz IV with a mortar) But if you add vertical stabilizers, change even the type of engine (from gasoline/diesel to gas turbine for example), night vision, reactive armor ... is it still "the same outdated vehicle"?
Single best analysis I have encountered of any aspect of this conflict, [outside of some commentary by retired Generals]. You're obviously well informed, and unlike others, keep your ego out of it. As a graphic arts major, I would like to say your Logo is also top notch. Glory to Ukraine!
This was really helpful; especially useful to see good use of map information. I have been wondering how many of the destroyed tanks Ukrainian sources show are Russian, or are current. This shows what kind of stuff to look for.
Whenever I hear reactive armor cant help but laugh at the one picture going around about an immobilized/captured Russian tank in Ukraine where the "reactive armor" was shown to be filled with cardboard that looked like egg cases
@@dasbubba841 What can we surmise from the use of training armour instead of battle armour? 1. Rushed into battle, unprepared, by Putin. 2 Incompetent commanders 3. Poor equipment levels (they just don't have it) 4. [insert your speculation here]
Wow this is impressive. Great video. Next do T-72 and T-90. But this shows just how much resistance they've faced in Sumy. They've lost at least one battalion worth of equipment from this axis alone.
@@Vedioviswritingservice lmao you didn't watch the video. There are multiple OSINT sources where you can visually confirm There have been at least 200 tank losses from Russia or the equivalent of 3 tank battalions
For those wondering "wait where are the T-90s" Many early model T-90As are actually less capable than T-72BVs due to modernization, since T-90 was originally based on T-72. The models we see during the military parades are T-90M, but the problem being, those models are way to expensive for Russian army to mass produce, current count is less than 100, meaning there are more likely to be held back. As of the famous T-14, the full production of that had been pushed back for some reason since 2017, meaning as of now there are no operationally produced T-14 in Russian service.
Not the problem for mass production, or expense - they are impractical. If you ever look up T-90 it has JET engine! It is extreme gas guzzler! When one is coming up, it sounds like a jet plane is approaching!
@@digimaks No, the T-90 has a standard V-block 4-stroke piston engine. It's the T-80 which uses a gas turbine (you know, the one in this video if you had listened before commenting).
@@digimaks T-90s have been used in Ukraine and that's a fact, look it up if you want, and if you're refering to Battle Order's pinned comment about the matter, he was talking about a specific variant of the T-90 "T-90M", the T-90A has been definitely used in Ukraine
Units with "guard" in their title are supposed to be the créme de la créme of the army. It's an old tradition that dates back to the Russian Empire. So to answer your question, yes.
@@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 They have like 5 of them. It's not gonna be used. There'd be no point, even if they had more. There's very few, if any, radar based Ukrainian AA left, it's mostly Manpads...where stealth doesn't matter.
Just fantastic work. While the media cannot seem but to take a side and propagandize the hell out of this, so many youtubers like yourself are bringing impartial historical information that makes it much easier to try and get a picture of how this war is being fought by both sides, and how the structure of those units is organized and to a degree coordinated. I think channels like yours are actually going to have a solid place in the factual, historical study of this war when the dust settles and people start writing books. Thanks for this!
Would love to see an analysis of effectiveness of the AT systems are having on the armor. Ex. 280/300 JAVs shot from (input source) shows an effectiveness of 90% while the NLAW is… and so on
It's exaggerated. In Syria which was very ATGM-friendly environment two out three missiles hit the target. And out of those two , one was able to inflict damege or destroy target. Same goes for Javelin. During field test in Poland it achieved 50-70% hit ratio, but during bad weather it dropped to 20-30%. For NLAW it's even lower. BLOS systems like Spike or MMP that have man in the loop are more accurate.
@@norbi1411 yep! Exactly why am analysis would be great. Seeing the TOWs bounce off armor was crazy, but made sense finding out they’re the old TOW-2 and not the TOW-2B.
Javelins have been highly effective and I doubt they are defeatable, but are precious and require substantial training. The overwhelming majority of missile shots are NLAW, which again has been highly effective, against older and uprated units with add-on reactive armor kits. However, they've proven ineffective against modern units with integrated countermeasures. Theres several videos showing NLAW shots being defeated. The overwhelming number of attacks are from total shitshow artillery bombardments, destroying residential neighborhoods and small towns, shooting at anything moving on the roads. For example the video from a few days ago that allegedly destroyed 6 tanks and killed a 'top commander', is about 10 seconds of clips, stitched together from about a 20 min battle that blasted the neighborhood around it to toothpicks, to randomly get a tank and a couple of APC, while letting 50+ armor pieces escape and redeploy.
@@springbloom5940 If NLAW hits ERA it will be stopped. Another thing worth mentioning is the enormous quantity of domestically build ATGMs like Corsair, Stugna or Skiff which are the real back bone of Ukrainian anti tank defense. Not to mention equally enormous quantiti of older systems like Konkurs from Soviet era. People seeing all those NLAW and Javelin memes tend to forget about that.
@@norbi1411 The difference is that the NLAW and to a somewhat lesser extent the Javelin, are much more portable. Even the Corsar, which is Ukraine's "portable" ATGM, is more than twice the weight of a complete Javelin (CLU+Missile). Of course the other systems are gonna be equally, if not more effective, but they have to be used in fixed emplacements and can't easily be displaced. They're gonna be fantastic in fixed ambushes, but they can't react to changes....and any missile is more effective than the one you can't fire. Overstatements or not, Javelin and especially the NLAW provide capability to small, highly mobile units, that RPG variants, AT-4s and Panzerfausts just cannot duplicate. Having some guy with a guided, fire-and-forget ATGM just slung over his back and trekking it, while still being able to very quickly use it, is ONLY possible with the NLAW.
5:49 Also, this tank says Russia/Russian (Russia is the only Cyrillic word I know on sight, and given the extra backwards N instead of an A, I'm guessing it means Russian) on the bottom front plate. 6:19 You probably saw this, but the tank on the left also has the tac marker on the right side, almost blocked by the 2nd tank.
"russian" in russian is "ruski" (don't have a cirylic keyboard sorry). That tank says "racii" with double i. that's russia declensed in some case (maybe genitive or accusative). TLDR It means "russia"
@@gianb3952 It's a difference between state and ethnic definition in russian language. Many languages use one word for both ("russian" in english). But in russian language they use different words: российский (rossiyski - "russian"); россии (rossii - "of russia") in case of state and русский (russki - "russian") in case of ethnicity and/or nationality
@@rodi8266 True that. We always laugh at Russian's outdated equipment, but most european main combat vehicles are as old, if not older. E.g: I'm Spanish and we still use the M113 and BMR APCs designed in the 1960s. And NO, not all of them are upgraded with "DUh ThErMAl SigHTs" What we Europeans (I suppose) have that Russia seem to lack in this war is proper training, good maintenance, capable and professional officers, good air-to-ground coordination, better logistics...
@@pedroperez6676 Idk how good our NATO qualities are. I just need to look at my own countries military to see how incredibly dysfunctional armies can become.
@@rodi8266 Which NATO country are you from? Honestly, most of our militaries (save for the US, France and perhaps the UK) look really underequipped but the training seems good, I know a lot of military men in Spain and I can assure they are as well trained as spartans.
@@jacopofolin6400 It works, its just not what you think it is. Javelin goes through it sure, but after Syria and Karabakh where their tanks optics got trashed by a 150$ drone requiring repair and refit, they took note.
The T-80U/UMs are good looking tanks. Best looking "round turret-esque" of them all. T-90Ms are probably the best looking Russian tanks ever IMO. The one T-80UM2 (Black eagle) was as well.
This is the first time Russia has used the T-80 in combat since the First Chechen War. And ironically they're facing the same issues; poor training, lacking equipment, and fuel shortages leading to bad employment and high losses.
Are you sure? Because based on previous Russian tactics everything is going to plan, unfortunately. The biggest issue I've seen was the armored divisions are going 120% of their maximum daily distance causing a long "tail" and making supply vehicles easy targets. This phase, however, it's over now. If you look at the battle maps, they are avoiding big cities and just surrounding them. Up at Kyev, they are currently setting up a FOB about 20 miles to the NW. Which is just below the maximum distance for their mobile missile launchers (21mi and 24mi). Casualties have never been a concern for Russia. In fact, in every war they have fought in they sustained more casualties than the opposing side.
@Scaucy man 2.0 they haven't even moved any units from the donbass region and Georgia was a much smaller country. Either way, why would that give you the impression that they expected to take Kyev in only 3 days when all of their military doctrine and previous engagements say it would take longer? Hell, do you even remember how long the Gulf War took? And the US was steamrolling them so bad that it was harder to process all the soldiers surrendering than it did to actually fight them.
@@jpowens2253 Casualties are definitely a concern for Putin. That's why they have started to pull conscripts out of Ukraine (or so they say). The fact that he felt the need to address the issue on TV speaks volumes. Besides, the wish to avoid too many losses even among contract soldiers is the main reason the Russians have been looking for new sources of manpower left and right- from Wagner veterans (they even lowered the standard for recruitment) to Syrian fighters.
Great work there mate. May I propose a video explaining the different variants of RFA and how to identify them? Theres actually very scarce info around.... putting them like in a tech tree would be much appreciated.
@Let's Go Brandon Plenty of tank bits on a modern battlefield with ATGMs a plenty. Until, if ever, armored vehicles get the advantage again in armor and active/passive protection systems. I'd never set foot in any MBT anywhere, from anyone.
@@shmeckle666 *not set foot on a battlefield. Fixed that for ya last 2 decades mostly saw the west steamrolling already devastated conscript militaries or literal dirt farmers and shepherds. This exact scenario could have played out 15 yrs ago. We already saw how deadly drones and guided missiles are last year when Armenia was soundly defeated by the Azeris
I think what's funny/tragic here is the obvious wide margin between what the organisation charts say and what's being seen on the ground, in particular there's an implicit assumption this kit is well maintained.
T80BVM is only scary on paper. It's a base model of T80B with Relikt package, new sights, gun and engine. T64B and T80B offer similar level of protection excluding ERA packages. T80U is exception since it's a uparmored variant. Anyways, all comes down to how this tanks are used in combat, Russians are proving that they simply don't know how to use their own tanks, I haven't seen any footage of Ukraian tanks in combat, but T64s positioned in ambushes/defence, attacking from side and concealed positions would be a match to any russian tank deployed in Ukraine.
The graph at the start is kinda weird the T80UE-1 are essentialy T80UD turrets on an T80U hull so basically they would fit after the T80U and not T80B because the hull isn't the same..the T80BVM does fit it uses the T80BV or more precise also the T80B as basis
Waiting for t90A (2004) analysis which have been already captured by Ukrainians . Also analysis vdv units , big part of whom were either captured on KiA. And btw I’d like you guys to make the emphasis on those regiments. For example 4thGTD (Kantenirovskaya) was )) the elitest division , next to the 2nd guards (tamanskaya) , as well as 200th Motorifles . Other than that great job done.
That's because the vdv units did not suffer as much casualties as expected and they never did capture T90A they held on to those airports and they never gave them up
Iam yet to see any evidence of the supposed annihilation of those VDV units. So far the only "evidence" is ukrainian propaganda hearsay, and stock footage from times gone by. Ive even seen footage from 2008 and the 2nd chechen war posted in relation to 2022.
@@rodi8266 lol you real ? Half of the internet is full of destroyed BMD4M , which can’t be used in 2008 , tons of dead meat on Ukrainian streets , and most importantly THIS CHANNEL HAS A VIDEO WHICH SHOWS ABANDONED/DESTROYED BMD4M
@@jolyroger9224 Abandoned/Destroyed BMD4M does not equal the claims of ukraine killing/capturing "all" of the VDV deployed around various airfields. 2008 and similar footage was shown in regards to tank losses and general "dead russian soldier lmao" scenarios
@@rodi8266 Did I say about all VDV being captured , meanwhile which Ukraine said that it destroyed all vdv or Russian federation ? It has been said that any vdv that tried to land was destroyed , some ground units of vdv are still operational and are stationed north of Kiev rn
All T series have tradition of "Sudden Unscheduled Turret Disassembly" when hit in the middle :) That includes ukraine T64's. Every. Fucking. T- tank series. Morals= don't buy the T series.
@@alifio2183 Except for the newer models like the T90M and T-14. Problem is that there probably won't ever be enough of them for Russia to field let alone sell to any countries that might show interest.
@@run2u520 Lol T14 armata producer declared bankruptcy few years back. The batch of new tanks haven't delivered as promised. With new sanctions it may never going to be delivered at all. They barely able to put it into production before and now it's like hoping for a gift from God.
Really enjoyed the video, stumbled on it by accident. I would like to know about your sources, from where have you gotten the accounts of the number of T-80s belonging to what unit?
If you think those different acronyms "V", "O, "Z"..."Voz" in Russia (as a noun) means "the act of one who returns; a coming back. ". Can't be a coincident
What also funny is how america doesnt keep an old surplus of tanks in storage, and here we see why running with old gear just gets your men turned into crispy critters
I mean the US does keep large amount of older airplane in storage, but also, the US can afford to replace their tanks because their budget is 10 time the Russian one.
@@norbi1411 Yes, but we don't keep models from 3 or 4 different programs in reserves. They are basically the same chassis and if pulled from storage they would probably go thru an upgrade cycle. I still can't believe that the Russians are deploying tanks with the same optics from 80's with no thermal sights in 2022.
On the other hand auto-loader in T family limits space in the turrets so the major number of ammunition is located in tank body - it makes tank extremely vulnerable and very limits chances for crew survival after being hit. That's why quite often you can notice t-80 flying turrets after being hit by some ATGMs.
Russians had the same problem with T-80 and T-72 during first battle of Grozny. When they reduced ammo load to only what was in autoloader problem of high crew casualties basically vanished.
@@norbi1411 No it did not. Yes removing the 16 loose rounds in the fighting compartment helped. But the 28 rounds in the carousel are more than enough and there's no internal protection to keep spalling out of the magazine. And no space to add any.
Nice concise video. The evidence you demonstrate clears up some issues for me regarding tank identification and unit of origin. I’m certain the Ukrainian loss estimates are on the optimistic side but it is clear that Putin expected a cake walk and those plans were rudely upended. The Russians continue to advance, however.
I don't understand the mentality of abandoning tanks that are still operational. Even if you get your track blown off, you don't abandon your tank. You fix it.
4th Guards tank division supposed to be the "elite" tank unit of the Russian Army. Yet they were wiped out in the battle near chocolate factory. They should put that in their museum "Battle of chocolate factory" (Where we got our shit kicked out by Ukrainian)
I read somewhere that this conflict in Ukraine is the greatest advertisement of Western arms we have ever seen. Every countries is sending their stuff for the Ukrainian to test in modern day battlefield against the Russians which was one of the largest arms dealer next to the US. From the conclusions, it seems most of the countries that still have Russian products are dumping them as fast as they can and looking towards the West for their arms.
The Russians always make the cheaper and less complicated products, only countries that are ich enough can really afford to purchase western made ones, also cheaper=more equipment, doubt those countries will buy western arms soon
How effective is ERA (explosive reactive armor) against anti tank weapons like the NLAW? Why is it used extensively on Russian tanks but not western tanks?
New Abrams and other vehicles have ERA options. Abrams has better armor protection in general compared to Russian armored vehicles though as standard equipment.
NLAW has only one warhead so if it hits ERA it will be stopped. Modern ATGMs like Spike, Skif or Javelin with tandem warheads require heavy ERA like Relikt, ERAWA or Duplet. "Why is it used extensively on Russian tanks but not western tanks?" Long story short eastern and western tanks were optimized to protect against different kinds of threats. For Russian tanks main threat was and is western ATGMs.Hence all those ERA kits on Russian tanks. For western tanks main threat was and is Russian tanks firing sabot rounds. Hence focus on special armour like Dorchester or Chobham.
As of May 28 2022, Oryx has documented 134 destroyed, abandoned or captured Russian T-80 variants in Ukraine. The actual number is almost certainly higher.
What is the likelihood the Ukrainians are keeping much of their armour in reserve, and is relying on infantry anti tank weapons at this stage. So if the opportunity to advance later comes up, they still have armour. Because, if Russian armour is susceptible to drone strikes, so is Ukrainian.
Correct, that's probably the case. Or used when the odds are the best that they will be able to properly fire and maneuver. And you are correct, anything that Russian MBTs are susceptible too, so will Ukrainian MBTs. Ukraine been on the defensive, using tactical retreats, etc.. But when Ukraine goes on the offensive to retake any towns, a city (other than relatively quick exchanging of control of a town changing hands by the hour or day), things may get much more challenging. I'm sure they wont be doing unsupported thunder runs or getting their armored vehicles into urban areas unsupported by dismounted infantry. But nevertheless, Ukraine will be the one attaching, Russia defending. And all other things being equal, the urban fight for the attacker/counter attacker is just as brutal and difficult.
@@shmeckle666 Soviet tanks are build to attack (as their terrible slow reverse gear, of which they only have one, proves). It was the doctrine. So Ukraine army has to think hard to use their tanks in the best way.
There are absolutely no chances for major counterattacks from Ukrainian tank units. First, they have no fuel. Russia disabled most of the country's major fuel depots. And confirmation of this is the abandoned tank battalion in the city of Volnovakha. Half of the tanks went to the DPR forces intact with empty or almost empty tanks. Secondly, the complete superiority of Russian aviation completely hampers the ability to carry out such attacks. Ukraine has already tried to carry out counterattacks with large forces in separate directions. For example, the forces of two infantry battalions with a company of tanks from the city of Zmiev to Balakliya, in the Kharkov region. They even broke into Balakleya on the outskirts, but aircraft flew in and bombed everything. So they will hide in the cities, and Russia will block everything over time.
For those curious, the only tank in service we haven't seen as of posting is the T-90M (there's probably only about 2 battalion sets in the Russian Army, although one of the units that has them, the 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division, is in Ukraine so we might see them at some point). We also haven't seen the T-14 Armata, because it is notably not in active service.
And a lot of Russian simps complained about this point: Russia DOES have T-72As and T-72Bs in active service, and they have been observed in Ukraine. Many older un-upgraded T-72s were taken out of storage in recent years to fill out the new divisions they reformed. The 90th Guards Tank Division, which is in Ukraine around Chernihiv, was one of these units. If you're Russian you can literally Google (or Yandex?) this information. I've even seen Russian tank experts (who definitely don't seem to be that sympathetic to Ukraine) acknowledge Russian T-72As in Ukraine.
There WERE sightings of the T-14 being moved into Ukraine, but it doesn't seem like they were used in combat thus far
@@HyperScorpio8688 Citation needed.
@@HyperScorpio8688 why tho. any further footages/reports of failures of the T-14s at this stage would just diminish its sale value
"Russian simps"
@@HyperScorpio8688 I think they were just being moved on rail within Russia.
Great analysis of the markings found that really insightful. I’m consuming so much information on this currently and coming from a non-military background have little basis to discard fact from fiction.
Yes he made in 1980 and good burn byu stinger and "Bairactar"
My military background comes from Call of Duty and Battlefield 4. I am a Level 100 colonel general of the army at 25th prestige. I knew these markings before the war broke out.
And now you have that basis..?
@@cn.st.182 he never said that, he used present tense not past. Implying no change in the status of his basis
... "discern"? ..."discriminate"?
I've always been interested in this sort of information, but the research is way too meticulous for me. I appreciate how these videos do the heavy lifting for me and reorganize the information into an easily digestible format. Keep up the good work!
Outstanding work, yet again. Please keep it up
Your expertise is really coming in handy verifying information coming out of the war. Thankyou.
I heard that at least one Russian T80-BVM captured has been seen in use by the 93rd Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. What better way than to grab the abandoned tanks and use it as yours.
Ukrainian tractor : Seems like a job for me
There are about 8 supposed captured t80bvms with picture evidence, so russia is giving away some choice hardware
For how long they can manage to use it, considering how much fuel the T-80 tanks devour
Yeah it's a shame those fuel convoys are so much easier to blow up than capture intact 🙁 assuming the various types of fuel hasn't already been drained out or used for heat while stuck on the highway "accidentally" 😉👍 good job to those Russian soldiers, and to the Chinese tire manufacturers of course 🤝
NATO has sent thousands of modern missiles to Ukraine. Many of them will be sold on the black market to ISIS and Al Qaeda.
ISIS and Al Qaeda will use American Stinger missiles to shoot down Western passenger planes.
You or your family could be killed by American weapons.
Judging by those photos, it looks like the insignia isn't the only thing the 4th guard hasn't changed since ww2
No no, for their modern army they repainted everything with a fresh coat of green.
I mean alot of unit ensigns don't change look at the royal navy ship patches for instance they use the same a WW2
@@donaldkasper8346 lol this
@@VladRadu-tq1pg No really, everything has a brand new green paint job. Very impressive.
Big thank you for your great work! Always instructive and well documented!
"Flying Tank "alright, -the turret at least.-
@Анастасия Борисова if you count taking useless countryside and some small towns with great losses as winning, I guess...
@Анастасия Борисова Everywhere? Maybe they'd win everywhere if their tanks didn't run out of fuel constantly. Russia can't operate more then 100km into Ukrainian soil because of logistic issues.
@@maarten1115 no need to respond, Kremlin bot detected
@@CDA- Lol TH-cam removed my comment. Nvm it's back, must have been a bug.
@@maarten1115 I agree with this statement, I don't think the T-80 is a failure (in-fact Im quite sure a good majority were captured/abandoned). It's more the fact that they're fuel hungry and given Russia's poor logistics with Trucks it makes sense why it resulted in that. We know that even back in the 1st Chechen War that the T-80s Gas Turbine was an issue due to this; but at the same time without the gas turbine on they lose practically all their systems. Edit: Note that any tank in any country would get blown up by Top-down attacks; including Leopards, Challengers and M1s, the penetration of these ATGMs are high and would require APS systems to take them down effectively (which currently only Israel fields on a mass scale).
Would love to see a break down of other Russian tanks (T-72 and T-90) and Ukraine's T-64BV and T-64BMs. Meanwhile, Ukrainian farmers are busily noting the best place to attach a tow cable.
All tank is flying then meet "Bairaktar"😂
There's somtehing to be said for understanding a countries weapons systems.
>Deploy tow ropes
>Attach to tow ropes
Drive into the sunset
Those were Ukrainian tanks
man yall make the same Reddit tier jokes over and over
Amazing absolutely apolitical work. It's very nice to see this. Especially now, when propaganda is getting into the ears literally from every iron.
It is hard to stay completely unbiased in the information storm we are experiencing right now, but props to this channel for trying.
My buddy served as a conscript in the 4th Guards Tank Division. The first captured T-80U is the one on which he served. According to him, almost 30% of his battalion was inoperative and this was in 2020. The general condition of the tanks was also very poor, they needed major repairs.
I guess he escaped this conflict by a hair huh?
You essentially doxed your buddy and he has given military intel to you. Russia is a totalitarian dictatorship. I would delete this comment if I were you
@@not-a-theist8251 I doubt Russian security operatives would be scrolling through a TH-cam comment section looking for defectors or casualties
Soviet tanks are, by design, hard to repair. It takes a couple of days to replace the engine. Different doctrine, they valued small size and cheaper construction costs over easy maintenance.
@@neodym5809 Couple of days is an utter BS.
Great research, thanks.
I think the logisitics failure in the initial sstage of the invasion, and argueably even now, coupled with the T-80s gas guzzling engine, led to many of them just being abandoned.
I've read from veteran anti tank soldiers (one of which had been using Russian tactics in war game training) saying that the logistics aren't necessarily "bad" but just not set up to fight this kind of war. The Russian doctrine is still set for a nuclear style war and isn't sufficient for this kind of conflict. Still shows a failure to adapt. That and the overall lack of training and quality equipment. The Russian bear seems more like a paper tiger.
@@709mash don't forget when he said that in war they push the old equipments and conscripts first to suck supplies and ammunition, ATs and AAs out of the enemy. Then the real army come.
@@aminech6342 The "real army"? What, Guard Units and the mighty (lol) VDV not "real" enough? What else is there to send? Some T-90M, maybe? Equipment is not gonna make the difference in this conflict, they already failed.
@@aminech6342 as more time goes on, Ukraine gets stronger everyday by receiving more manpower and supplies, while Russia becomes weaker by the day because of the sanctions
@@aminech6342 to think that Russia honestly throws lives away is ridiculous. Even for Russian military doctrine.
Wow, this type of high-quality content is so hard to find. Tactical / unit symbols and command structures give so much more insight into what’s going on than big red arrows in the usual media reporting, provided you know what a brigade, battalion etc is. Subscribed.
High quality Uke propaganda. What about Uke losses?
Excellent high quality video. Well done Sir! Really fantastic mic audio.
The director of the german tank museum did a very good analysis video on the russian t-series tanks... He explained that the T-72, T-80 and T-90 cannot be seen as following generations, but more as improved versions of a tank chassy that pretty much hasn´t changed since the T-64... For example T-80 and T-90 cannot be compared in terms of technichal upgrades and new innovations like the leopard 1 and leopard2... They are more like the Leopard 2A4, 2A5, 2A6 and so on...
Hence the biggest problems with the Russian tank force right now. While most of the world is using tanks that were actually designed in the 1970s and 80s, the Russians are effectively just using upteched versions of machines made in the 1960s.
@@Namelessthe3rd Which in my opinion is their huge downfall. No matter how many upgrades you put on a single chassis it will still be the same outdated vehicle from the 70-80's. No wonder Putin is scared of Abrams, Leopards, Merkavas, Challengers, etc.
@@Loplyful Yes Vladimir is pissing his pants by how well the Abrahams performed in Afghanistan, taken out by rooftop gasoline bottle throwers or 40 year old RPGs
@@thetruth7633 Oops, found a communist bootlicker. How's the Ruble doing for ya?
@@Loplyful Thats like a Ship of Theseus - question here ... how much can you change until it becomes something else?
Just changing the gun or the engine alone can completely change how a vehicle can be used;
(see Pz IV with a "normal" anti tank gun, compared to a Pz IV with a mortar)
But if you add vertical stabilizers, change even the type of engine (from gasoline/diesel to gas turbine for example), night vision, reactive armor ... is it still "the same outdated vehicle"?
Great concise analysis mate
Your a master doing these great videos. Beyond outstanding!!!
Glad you like them!
Single best analysis I have encountered of any aspect of this conflict, [outside of some commentary by retired Generals]. You're obviously well informed, and unlike others, keep your ego out of it. As a graphic arts major, I would like to say your Logo is also top notch. Glory to Ukraine!
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This was really helpful; especially useful to see good use of map information. I have been wondering how many of the destroyed tanks Ukrainian sources show are Russian, or are current. This shows what kind of stuff to look for.
Whenever I hear reactive armor cant help but laugh at the one picture going around about an immobilized/captured Russian tank in Ukraine where the "reactive armor" was shown to be filled with cardboard that looked like egg cases
Yes, many of the images I've seen of captured/disabled Russian tanks show what appears to be 'training armour' ie not ERA but inert filler.
@@chrisg6091 Still, the fact that its empty is rather telling.
@@dasbubba841 What can we surmise from the use of training armour instead of battle armour? 1. Rushed into battle, unprepared, by Putin. 2 Incompetent commanders 3. Poor equipment levels (they just don't have it) 4. [insert your speculation here]
This is so squared away 🤘 great information and knowledge , got subscription
Wow this is impressive. Great video. Next do T-72 and T-90. But this shows just how much resistance they've faced in Sumy. They've lost at least one battalion worth of equipment from this axis alone.
According to whom?
@@Vedioviswritingservice did you watch the video??
@@rsKayiira Yes, no where does he say where he is getting his information on losses from. If you know, please enlighten me.
@@Vedioviswritingservice lmao you didn't watch the video. There are multiple OSINT sources where you can visually confirm There have been at least 200 tank losses from Russia or the equivalent of 3 tank battalions
@@rsKayiira Just tell me what they are then and we can judge the credibility.
For those wondering "wait where are the T-90s"
Many early model T-90As are actually less capable than T-72BVs due to modernization, since T-90 was originally based on T-72. The models we see during the military parades are T-90M, but the problem being, those models are way to expensive for Russian army to mass produce, current count is less than 100, meaning there are more likely to be held back.
As of the famous T-14, the full production of that had been pushed back for some reason since 2017, meaning as of now there are no operationally produced T-14 in Russian service.
The famous stealth tank: You can't see it anywhere.
Not the problem for mass production, or expense - they are impractical. If you ever look up T-90 it has JET engine! It is extreme gas guzzler! When one is coming up, it sounds like a jet plane is approaching!
@@digimaks turbines are common for tanks, the Abrams uses one as well
@@digimaks No, the T-90 has a standard V-block 4-stroke piston engine. It's the T-80 which uses a gas turbine (you know, the one in this video if you had listened before commenting).
@@digimaks you hear diesels from much further away than turbines because of how low frequency they are.
Thank you very much for this detailed analysis and helps to clarify some of the information and images we're receiving.
Can you make a video on the use of the T-90 in Ukraine and how effective it was?
Potentially
Hard to do, when Russia insists on using tanks in dumb manner.
There are no T-90's in Urkaine's operation. They are not practical there.
@@digimaks T-90s have been used in Ukraine and that's a fact, look it up if you want, and if you're refering to Battle Order's pinned comment about the matter, he was talking about a specific variant of the T-90 "T-90M", the T-90A has been definitely used in Ukraine
I found your video while attempting to identify some of the tanks that have been shown. Great work and excellent report! I have subscribed!
T-80 this, T-80 that. All of the different T-80's look the same when their turrets shoot up into the air and land on the ground upside down.
Great stuff. Caught a few of your videos now; you earned a sub with this one! Thank you for your work!
I've heard rumors that now they're issuing seed dispensers as standard at the platoon level
DAM !!! This is a great channel !! Glad I just found it !! Thanks .
Is the 4th guard supposed to be an Elite Unit?
Yes
"elite"means "sober some of the time" in Russian parlamce
Units with "guard" in their title are supposed to be the créme de la créme of the army. It's an old tradition that dates back to the Russian Empire. So to answer your question, yes.
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@@fleurdetristesse5218 Sooo from what I can understand from this video is that their Créme de la Créme is not doing so good?
great work thanks! been looking for a channel like this for a while
The quality of your videos is just amazing...
Best Order of battle and MBT analysis on the web. Keep up the great work.
Very informative would like to know about the use of Russian T90 tanks also if you can find the information.
I'm waiting for the video about T-90M tanks and Su-57 fighter in Ukraine war.
@@khaid.5167 neither one has shown up yet. T-90M maybe, Su-57 zero chance
@@LOLHAMMER45678 the SU-57 is advertised as a stealth fighter so…
@@lee.as.in.l.e.e.7394 They have like 5 of them. It's not gonna be used. There'd be no point, even if they had more. There's very few, if any, radar based Ukrainian AA left, it's mostly Manpads...where stealth doesn't matter.
@@khaid.5167 guys T90M, is getting destroyed by javelin, nlow and so on, like any other armoured vehicle.
Just fantastic work. While the media cannot seem but to take a side and propagandize the hell out of this, so many youtubers like yourself are bringing impartial historical information that makes it much easier to try and get a picture of how this war is being fought by both sides, and how the structure of those units is organized and to a degree coordinated. I think channels like yours are actually going to have a solid place in the factual, historical study of this war when the dust settles and people start writing books. Thanks for this!
imagine stocking parts for each of these updated versions.
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At the risk of sounding hyperbolic, am I the only one who thinks that also looks like a tomb stone?
Nah I see the tombstone on it
I thought doorway too. GTFO is also an appropriate response IMO. XD
Would love to see an analysis of effectiveness of the AT systems are having on the armor. Ex. 280/300 JAVs shot from (input source) shows an effectiveness of 90% while the NLAW is… and so on
It's exaggerated.
In Syria which was very ATGM-friendly environment two out three missiles hit the target. And out of those two , one was able to inflict damege or destroy target.
Same goes for Javelin. During field test in Poland it achieved 50-70% hit ratio, but during bad weather it dropped to 20-30%. For NLAW it's even lower.
BLOS systems like Spike or MMP that have man in the loop are more accurate.
@@norbi1411 yep! Exactly why am analysis would be great. Seeing the TOWs bounce off armor was crazy, but made sense finding out they’re the old TOW-2 and not the TOW-2B.
Javelins have been highly effective and I doubt they are defeatable, but are precious and require substantial training. The overwhelming majority of missile shots are NLAW, which again has been highly effective, against older and uprated units with add-on reactive armor kits. However, they've proven ineffective against modern units with integrated countermeasures. Theres several videos showing NLAW shots being defeated. The overwhelming number of attacks are from total shitshow artillery bombardments, destroying residential neighborhoods and small towns, shooting at anything moving on the roads. For example the video from a few days ago that allegedly destroyed 6 tanks and killed a 'top commander', is about 10 seconds of clips, stitched together from about a 20 min battle that blasted the neighborhood around it to toothpicks, to randomly get a tank and a couple of APC, while letting 50+ armor pieces escape and redeploy.
@@springbloom5940 If NLAW hits ERA it will be stopped.
Another thing worth mentioning is the enormous quantity of domestically build ATGMs like Corsair, Stugna or Skiff which are the real back bone of Ukrainian anti tank defense. Not to mention equally enormous quantiti of older systems like Konkurs from Soviet era. People seeing all those NLAW and Javelin memes tend to forget about that.
@@norbi1411 The difference is that the NLAW and to a somewhat lesser extent the Javelin, are much more portable. Even the Corsar, which is Ukraine's "portable" ATGM, is more than twice the weight of a complete Javelin (CLU+Missile). Of course the other systems are gonna be equally, if not more effective, but they have to be used in fixed emplacements and can't easily be displaced. They're gonna be fantastic in fixed ambushes, but they can't react to changes....and any missile is more effective than the one you can't fire.
Overstatements or not, Javelin and especially the NLAW provide capability to small, highly mobile units, that RPG variants, AT-4s and Panzerfausts just cannot duplicate. Having some guy with a guided, fire-and-forget ATGM just slung over his back and trekking it, while still being able to very quickly use it, is ONLY possible with the NLAW.
Another good video using factual break downs of the events in Ukraine. Thank you
5:49 Also, this tank says Russia/Russian (Russia is the only Cyrillic word I know on sight, and given the extra backwards N instead of an A, I'm guessing it means Russian) on the bottom front plate.
6:19 You probably saw this, but the tank on the left also has the tac marker on the right side, almost blocked by the 2nd tank.
Ukrainian has the backwards N too, but in Ukrainian it would be Росії
"russian" in russian is "ruski" (don't have a cirylic keyboard sorry). That tank says "racii" with double i. that's russia declensed in some case (maybe genitive or accusative). TLDR It means "russia"
@@gianb3952 Ok, thanks
@@gianb3952 It's a difference between state and ethnic definition in russian language. Many languages use one word for both ("russian" in english). But in russian language they use different words:
российский (rossiyski - "russian"); россии (rossii - "of russia") in case of state and
русский (russki - "russian") in case of ethnicity and/or nationality
@@Squee.1366 Thanks, I didn't know that :)
Great go through of the markings. Thanks!
Nice vid.
Just wait 'til you see the glorious T-14 Armata fully replace these old tanks (to be completed in the year 2077).
Military is an expensive money sink y'know
Most of NATO hasnt even finished developing its next gen of combat vehicles.
@@rodi8266 True that. We always laugh at Russian's outdated equipment, but most european main combat vehicles are as old, if not older. E.g: I'm Spanish and we still use the M113 and BMR APCs designed in the 1960s. And NO, not all of them are upgraded with "DUh ThErMAl SigHTs"
What we Europeans (I suppose) have that Russia seem to lack in this war is proper training, good maintenance, capable and professional officers, good air-to-ground coordination, better logistics...
@@pedroperez6676 Idk how good our NATO qualities are. I just need to look at my own countries military to see how incredibly dysfunctional armies can become.
@@rodi8266 Which NATO country are you from? Honestly, most of our militaries (save for the US, France and perhaps the UK) look really underequipped but the training seems good, I know a lot of military men in Spain and I can assure they are as well trained as spartans.
@@pedroperez6676 The one that was on the frontline before the Iron Curtain fell lmao
Can you make a video explaining the T-90s and their new Cope Cage™ anti -javelin technology?
Reddit moment lul
The Cage don't work, Is more for psicological reasons
@@jacopofolin6400 It works, its just not what you think it is.
Javelin goes through it sure, but after Syria and Karabakh where their tanks optics got trashed by a 150$ drone requiring repair and refit, they took note.
Whoever bought Cope Cage ™ should ask for their money back.
why are the t-80s not equipped with cope cages?
The T-80U/UMs are good looking tanks. Best looking "round turret-esque" of them all.
T-90Ms are probably the best looking Russian tanks ever IMO. The one T-80UM2 (Black eagle) was as well.
watching armour train on flat open ground using parade ground formations is impressive, pure military might. Battle is rarely on the parade ground.
This is the first time Russia has used the T-80 in combat since the First Chechen War. And ironically they're facing the same issues; poor training, lacking equipment, and fuel shortages leading to bad employment and high losses.
Are you sure? Because based on previous Russian tactics everything is going to plan, unfortunately. The biggest issue I've seen was the armored divisions are going 120% of their maximum daily distance causing a long "tail" and making supply vehicles easy targets. This phase, however, it's over now. If you look at the battle maps, they are avoiding big cities and just surrounding them. Up at Kyev, they are currently setting up a FOB about 20 miles to the NW. Which is just below the maximum distance for their mobile missile launchers (21mi and 24mi).
Casualties have never been a concern for Russia. In fact, in every war they have fought in they sustained more casualties than the opposing side.
@Scaucy man 2.0 that sounds unrealistic, even for a larger better equipped military. Why do you think that was their plan?
@Scaucy man 2.0 they haven't even moved any units from the donbass region and Georgia was a much smaller country. Either way, why would that give you the impression that they expected to take Kyev in only 3 days when all of their military doctrine and previous engagements say it would take longer?
Hell, do you even remember how long the Gulf War took? And the US was steamrolling them so bad that it was harder to process all the soldiers surrendering than it did to actually fight them.
@Scaucy man 2.0 bullshit.
@@jpowens2253 Casualties are definitely a concern for Putin. That's why they have started to pull conscripts out of Ukraine (or so they say). The fact that he felt the need to address the issue on TV speaks volumes. Besides, the wish to avoid too many losses even among contract soldiers is the main reason the Russians have been looking for new sources of manpower left and right- from Wagner veterans (they even lowered the standard for recruitment) to Syrian fighters.
yay finally an answer to the red hexagon! I've been looking for that info for weeks!
Well, it would be better to call these tanks "The Flying Turret Tanks"
The T 72 is called the flying Turret tank Because the turret flies off when those get hit as 1991 showed
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Great work there mate. May I propose a video explaining the different variants of RFA and how to identify them? Theres actually very scarce info around.... putting them like in a tech tree would be much appreciated.
Russian tanks are the most commonly flying tanks in the world. Just the other day I saw a Russian tank fly quite a bit after being hit by a Javelin.
Better with hardbass.
Hahahah lol 🤣
Superb analysis. Please keep these update videos coming.
Good to know what they look like before they're turned to char.
Only bits I,ve seen flying,are the turrets.They should come fitted with sunflower seed dispensers
@Let's Go Brandon Plenty of tank bits on a modern battlefield with ATGMs a plenty. Until, if ever, armored vehicles get the advantage again in armor and active/passive protection systems. I'd never set foot in any MBT anywhere, from anyone.
@@shmeckle666 *not set foot on a battlefield.
Fixed that for ya
last 2 decades mostly saw the west steamrolling already devastated conscript militaries or literal dirt farmers and shepherds. This exact scenario could have played out 15 yrs ago.
We already saw how deadly drones and guided missiles are last year when Armenia was soundly defeated by the Azeris
I think what's funny/tragic here is the obvious wide margin between what the organisation charts say and what's being seen on the ground, in particular there's an implicit assumption this kit is well maintained.
Does it have a flying Turret like the rest of them ?
T80BVM is only scary on paper. It's a base model of T80B with Relikt package, new sights, gun and engine. T64B and T80B offer similar level of protection excluding ERA packages. T80U is exception since it's a uparmored variant.
Anyways, all comes down to how this tanks are used in combat, Russians are proving that they simply don't know how to use their own tanks, I haven't seen any footage of Ukraian tanks in combat, but T64s positioned in ambushes/defence, attacking from side and concealed positions would be a match to any russian tank deployed in Ukraine.
You only see what is shown to you.
Relikt, not Kontakt-5
@@Юра-о1ю1р what is shown to us is embarrassing
@@LOLHAMMER45678 The truth will be shown to you much later, when interest in these events subsidies.
@Scaucy man 2.0 So live with this knowledge.
You forgot to mention that they are incredibly polite tanks and always take their hat off when they see a fine lady anti tank missile.
Now what we need is a video that explains all the differences between russian and ukrainian tank variants. It'd be so damn useful
Wow. Great video. You guys have done lots of homework!
Can you do a huge video describing the organization of russian forces in Ukraine?
Thanks for all your research, best breakdown on TH-cam
Flying tank thats gonna get destroyed by Saint Javelin
The graph at the start is kinda weird the T80UE-1 are essentialy T80UD turrets on an T80U hull so basically they would fit after the T80U and not T80B because the hull isn't the same..the T80BVM does fit it uses the T80BV or more precise also the T80B as basis
Waiting for t90A (2004) analysis which have been already captured by Ukrainians .
Also analysis vdv units , big part of whom were either captured on KiA.
And btw I’d like you guys to make the emphasis on those regiments. For example 4thGTD (Kantenirovskaya) was )) the elitest division , next to the 2nd guards (tamanskaya) , as well as 200th Motorifles . Other than that great job done.
That's because the vdv units did not suffer as much casualties as expected and they never did capture T90A they held on to those airports and they never gave them up
Iam yet to see any evidence of the supposed annihilation of those VDV units. So far the only "evidence" is ukrainian propaganda hearsay, and stock footage from times gone by.
Ive even seen footage from 2008 and the 2nd chechen war posted in relation to 2022.
@@rodi8266 lol you real ? Half of the internet is full of destroyed BMD4M , which can’t be used in 2008 , tons of dead meat on Ukrainian streets , and most importantly THIS CHANNEL HAS A VIDEO WHICH SHOWS ABANDONED/DESTROYED BMD4M
@@jolyroger9224 Abandoned/Destroyed BMD4M does not equal the claims of ukraine killing/capturing "all" of the VDV deployed around various airfields.
2008 and similar footage was shown in regards to tank losses and general "dead russian soldier lmao" scenarios
@@rodi8266 Did I say about all VDV being captured , meanwhile which Ukraine said that it destroyed all vdv or Russian federation ? It has been said that any vdv that tried to land was destroyed , some ground units of vdv are still operational and are stationed north of Kiev rn
Excellent vid. Thank you.
Russian tanks are lighter and smaller because ukrainian farmers can tow them with their tractors easier
Top quality video! Good job, thx.
Well, the turret flies, at least.
Thanks for helping to sort this out.
St Javelin blesses their hearts.
Thanks for all info. Impressive content
Still haven't seen many BMP-3s. Strange.
They're here and there, especially in the south. They're just less numerous than the BMP-2.
@@BattleOrder thanks. I would seem that the Russians of a lesser god aren't equipped with them.
@@BattleOrder Where did you source the information from?
My mind is blown, how can supply lines support all these field variants. no wonder Logististic cannot keep up.
T-80 'Flying Turret Tank'. There, I fixed it for you...
All T series have tradition of "Sudden Unscheduled Turret Disassembly" when hit in the middle :)
That includes ukraine T64's. Every. Fucking. T- tank series.
Morals= don't buy the T series.
@@alifio2183 that’s what happens when you stash the ammo with the crew ;)
@@xSRGman more accurately, that's why you DON'T sit on explosives :D
@@alifio2183 Except for the newer models like the T90M and T-14. Problem is that there probably won't ever be enough of them for Russia to field let alone sell to any countries that might show interest.
@@run2u520 Lol T14 armata producer declared bankruptcy few years back. The batch of new tanks haven't delivered as promised. With new sanctions it may never going to be delivered at all. They barely able to put it into production before and now it's like hoping for a gift from God.
This is called professional,keep good work bro
Just show them the camo pattern, that's should be enough evidence to prove whether tanks are Russian or Ukrainian
Many Russian vehicles are just plain green, I haven't seen many camouflage patterns.
@@flitsertheo that's what I'm talking about, most of the Ukrainian vehicles have their camo pattern unlike Russia that is mainly green or white
@@Decicamo You're right! Still. . . very impressive research here. Your dog, i see, has tan and white markings. What nationality is THAT?
Really enjoyed the video, stumbled on it by accident. I would like to know about your sources, from where have you gotten the accounts of the number of T-80s belonging to what unit?
If you think those different acronyms "V", "O, "Z"..."Voz" in Russia (as a noun) means "the act of one who returns; a coming back. ". Can't be a coincident
Wow! That's great! I had heard they might be V = West; O = East; Z = South, a box around the guys from the far east's south.
4:20 were exactly did you get these numbers?
What also funny is how america doesnt keep an old surplus of tanks in storage, and here we see why running with old gear just gets your men turned into crispy critters
They are. US Army has about 2000 M1 Abrams in active service and twice than that kept in reserve.
I mean the US does keep large amount of older airplane in storage, but also, the US can afford to replace their tanks because their budget is 10 time the Russian one.
@@Bruno-ec8ft thing is this war has proven that old tanks are a money sink and frankly more a hazard to your own men than an asset.
I'm talking about tanks people, if we followed russia doctrine we would have a fleet of Sherman's rolling around and we dont..
@@norbi1411 Yes, but we don't keep models from 3 or 4 different programs in reserves. They are basically the same chassis and if pulled from storage they would probably go thru an upgrade cycle. I still can't believe that the Russians are deploying tanks with the same optics from 80's with no thermal sights in 2022.
Thanks for sharing the wonderful detail!
On the other hand auto-loader in T family limits space in the turrets so the major number of ammunition is located in tank body - it makes tank extremely vulnerable and very limits chances for crew survival after being hit. That's why quite often you can notice t-80 flying turrets after being hit by some ATGMs.
Russians had the same problem with T-80 and T-72 during first battle of Grozny. When they reduced ammo load to only what was in autoloader problem of high crew casualties basically vanished.
@@norbi1411 No it did not. Yes removing the 16 loose rounds in the fighting compartment helped. But the 28 rounds in the carousel are more than enough and there's no internal protection to keep spalling out of the magazine. And no space to add any.
I discovered this channel WAAAYYYY too late! Great work dude! Newsub here.
Nice concise video. The evidence you demonstrate clears up some issues for me regarding tank identification and unit of origin. I’m certain the Ukrainian loss estimates are on the optimistic side but it is clear that Putin expected a cake walk and those plans were rudely upended. The Russians continue to advance, however.
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Thank you for the commentary.
I don't understand the mentality of abandoning tanks that are still operational. Even if you get your track blown off, you don't abandon your tank. You fix it.
You do if there’s no assistance and don’t want to be killed! I don’t think they want to bother with fixing anything.
If they're stuck then you have to abandon them until the second wave or else you're sitting in the open
The Russians only crew 3 men per tank. So their repairs take a lot longer than a 4 man western crew.
4th Guards tank division supposed to be the "elite" tank unit of the Russian Army. Yet they were wiped out in the battle near chocolate factory. They should put that in their museum "Battle of chocolate factory" (Where we got our shit kicked out by Ukrainian)
“We were stabbed in the back by Willy Wonka!”
I read somewhere that this conflict in Ukraine is the greatest advertisement of Western arms we have ever seen. Every countries is sending their stuff for the Ukrainian to test in modern day battlefield against the Russians which was one of the largest arms dealer next to the US. From the conclusions, it seems most of the countries that still have Russian products are dumping them as fast as they can and looking towards the West for their arms.
The Russians always make the cheaper and less complicated products, only countries that are ich enough can really afford to purchase western made ones, also cheaper=more equipment, doubt those countries will buy western arms soon
Was 'somewhere' out your arse?
Great research!!
How effective is ERA (explosive reactive armor) against anti tank weapons like the NLAW? Why is it used extensively on Russian tanks but not western tanks?
New Abrams and other vehicles have ERA options. Abrams has better armor protection in general compared to Russian armored vehicles though as standard equipment.
Is that a joke??? Almost every Russian tank has some ERA, some older than others.
@@PewPewPlasmagun That's what I said, that almost all Russian tanks has ERA but not western tanks.
every modern atgm has a tandem head, and the armor on top of turrets is so thin i dont think that era on there would do anything
NLAW has only one warhead so if it hits ERA it will be stopped. Modern ATGMs like Spike, Skif or Javelin with tandem warheads require heavy ERA like Relikt, ERAWA or Duplet.
"Why is it used extensively on Russian tanks but not western tanks?"
Long story short eastern and western tanks were optimized to protect against different kinds of threats. For Russian tanks main threat was and is western ATGMs.Hence all those ERA kits on Russian tanks. For western tanks main threat was and is Russian tanks firing sabot rounds. Hence focus on special armour like Dorchester or Chobham.
As of May 28 2022, Oryx has documented 134 destroyed, abandoned or captured Russian T-80 variants in Ukraine. The actual number is almost certainly higher.
*lower
@@bluephoenixplays9824Higher. Visually confirmed means visually confirmed
BV, BVM or BU, it all doesn't matter. The one thing Russian tanks are any good at is launching their turrets into the sky when hit.
Why do you think the word "flying" is in the title?
Great video and so informative.
What is the likelihood the Ukrainians are keeping much of their armour in reserve, and is relying on infantry anti tank weapons at this stage. So if the opportunity to advance later comes up, they still have armour. Because, if Russian armour is susceptible to drone strikes, so is Ukrainian.
Correct, that's probably the case. Or used when the odds are the best that they will be able to properly fire and maneuver. And you are correct, anything that Russian MBTs are susceptible too, so will Ukrainian MBTs. Ukraine been on the defensive, using tactical retreats, etc.. But when Ukraine goes on the offensive to retake any towns, a city (other than relatively quick exchanging of control of a town changing hands by the hour or day), things may get much more challenging. I'm sure they wont be doing unsupported thunder runs or getting their armored vehicles into urban areas unsupported by dismounted infantry. But nevertheless, Ukraine will be the one attaching, Russia defending. And all other things being equal, the urban fight for the attacker/counter attacker is just as brutal and difficult.
@@shmeckle666 Soviet tanks are build to attack (as their terrible slow reverse gear, of which they only have one, proves). It was the doctrine. So Ukraine army has to think hard to use their tanks in the best way.
There are absolutely no chances for major counterattacks from Ukrainian tank units.
First, they have no fuel. Russia disabled most of the country's major fuel depots. And confirmation of this is the abandoned tank battalion in the city of Volnovakha. Half of the tanks went to the DPR forces intact with empty or almost empty tanks.
Secondly, the complete superiority of Russian aviation completely hampers the ability to carry out such attacks. Ukraine has already tried to carry out counterattacks with large forces in separate directions. For example, the forces of two infantry battalions with a company of tanks from the city of Zmiev to Balakliya, in the Kharkov region. They even broke into Balakleya on the outskirts, but aircraft flew in and bombed everything.
So they will hide in the cities, and Russia will block everything over time.
@@ArchivatorRUS Russians still dont have air superiority in Ukraine.
@@baneofbanes Pfft, are you sure?
0:16 T-14s: *breathes sigh of relief.*
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