Motostrelki '22: Russian Infantry Tactics & Structure

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  • @BattleOrder
    @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    Here is a summary of changes that were alleged to have been made as part of the "New Look" reforms and some caveats:
    1. BMP Company HQs were reduced from 2 vehicles to 1 vehicle. Personnel remained the same except the removal of the spare Mechanic-Driver and Gunner-Operator. While the video shows 1 vehicle in the Company HQ in accordance with our most up-to-date sources, I would not be surprised if 2 vehicles was still a practice in some units to keep the HQ vehicles from getting too cramped.
    2. PKP/PKM general-purpose machine gun replaces the RPK-74 as the main squad automatic.
    3. Platoon HQs were reduced with the removal of the 2-man PKM team, Rifleman-Medic and Sniper/Marksman. The SVD marksman rifles were moved to the brigade and battalion level in sniper units. Introduced of squad-level PKP/PKMs likely made the platoon-level 7.62x54mmR systems redundant.
    4. Squad-level SVDs in BTR/MT-LB platoons were removed.
    5. Assistant machine gunner was added to the BMP platoon due to the new PKP GPMG.
    6. The Praporschik rank was briefly abolished around the period of 2008-2013, but was brought back.
    Some sources state that instead of being battalion-level, in BTR battalions ATGM teams are directly assigned to motor rifle companies. These are mostly pre-2008 sources, though. Also for some reason some newer sources neglect to mention a Deputy Company Commander, but I've seen evidence of this position still existing through Russian press releases and other means.

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wish u make video about SOCOM in the future

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder what the RPK-16 is for then. Maybe special units still find use for it, or just for export?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blackore64 I heard that Russian Army demand belt-feed version based on RPK-16, thus Kalashnikov introduced RPL-20 recently, maybe RPL-20 will be adopted instead or both.

    • @blackore64
      @blackore64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@pirotess2 Huh, so we've come full circle from RPD then?

    • @pirotess2
      @pirotess2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I heard some guy that claim there are still many Russian units still use RPK-74s as main squad automatic in Syria and in Middle and East Districts.

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1845

    US: optics on every rifle should prove useful to increase combat effectiveness.
    Russia: Radar.

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Jon Blank yeah that’s not at all true but whatever

    • @phucprice6698
      @phucprice6698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Jon Blank the American during vietnam war also has a Colt 4x optic on their M16 and was used by the SOG, putting optic on rifle is already being consider by everyone ever since the 40s since the metallurgy technology allow for creation of rigid, reliable optical sight for the common grunt. The German was the 1st to use the optic on their STG-44. It just now that we rich enough to put optic on every rifle. Also Radar intended for use as a group is never as beneficial for the individual soldier as having an ACOG on their weapon. To this day the Russian still far lack behind this aspect, and the amount of unit in russian armed force that was equipped with combat optic for their rifle is very limited, except the universal Platoon Marksman with their SVD ( although this also getting removed as this video imply )

    • @jb76489
      @jb76489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Jon Blank even though fluorine has a higher electro negativity, chlorine has the highest electron affinity due to its increased size decreasing electrostatic repulsion

    • @woodonfire7406
      @woodonfire7406 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I'd be cool if Russia keeps making more of those AK-12, AK-15 and AK-19 guns
      Oh, and modifying the AK-100 series to where it has rails and shit
      That's if they have the money to do so

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      First of all, Russian military understands the effectiveness of infantry optics as well, although it gives them a lower priority compared to other, more pressing needs. Hence why, despite having capacity for optics on most of its service weapons (certainly RPGs & rifles and to lesser extent machineguns), only sniper rifles and RPGs are always issued with them, while with other firearms situation varies quite a bit.
      Secondly, the US Army was using radars in similar manner all way back during Vietnam war (AN/PPS-5), and there are modern systems of that nature too (AN/PPS-15). The difference here is more in exact execution and nuances of deployment, than in overall understanding of field radar usefulness.

  • @potatosinnato1767
    @potatosinnato1767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    I love how you cover the actual battle tactics and how tanks and infantry and the other arms coordinate. Because most things ive read and watched only talk about the organizational side and not the actual tactics and coordination used. Thanks to you I have a better understanding of how combined arms works

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, talking about trenches is so up-to-date... have ever been any significant use of trenches in the last 75 years? Most warfare has happened in the cities/towns/villages, or mountainous terrain etc, what trenches? Especially given that with the level of artillery and aviation for many decades trenches would be just conveniently predug graves.

    • @veliest1886
      @veliest1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 lmao look at ukraine

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did.

    • @paladin0654
      @paladin0654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Been in combat? Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan to name a few. When you get shot at, you dig in.

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Iran-Iraq War was a massive case of trench warfare and that happened in the 80s.

  • @НиколайИванов-в8ы1я
    @НиколайИванов-в8ы1я 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1355

    Praporshchik - providing memes and anecdotes since the Empire times...

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      Well, I also heard at least few anecdotes about chorążych and podporuczników (ensigns and 2nd lieutenants), most of them dating from time of mandatory military service

    • @MrBlueBurd0451
      @MrBlueBurd0451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      In the same way that 2nd LTs or other O-1s are memetically incompetent in NATO militaries?

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@MrBlueBurd0451 from those anecdotes that I overheard, ensigns (especially those from reserve) were considered cocky (and in slang were called "peacocks" due to look of their rank) and useless (except paperwork, as they usually were just after university), but lieutenants - that was more of "because Major said so" while senior/staff sergeant was opposing doing what Major said (it usually was around "it will be useful" stuff that was not in official records)

    • @G-Mastah-Fash
      @G-Mastah-Fash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@НиколайИванов-в8ы1я Sounds like Prapor from Tarkov alright.

    • @vaevictis2789
      @vaevictis2789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Jfk2Mr yeah, and we have a tons of anecdotes about "porucik (porucznik in Russian) Rżewski"

  • @RockSpyPigeon
    @RockSpyPigeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1397

    It's really interesting to see how geography shapes your doctrine; Russians have that emphasis on covering ground, which seems logical since their main battlespace would be flat plains.
    In comparison, in a swiss armoured battalion, we usually have a very narrow front and rely more on “changing echelon” (sending one company for a limited push, then the second continues the push, then the third and so on), which is logical since we essentially fight in a lot of natural chokepoints (mountains, hills, forested area).
    Great video!

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Yeah u have a lot of experience in fighting lol.

    • @RockSpyPigeon
      @RockSpyPigeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p Exercises still shape doctrine, my friend.
      But yeah, we luckily haven't fought for a while.

    • @norten76
      @norten76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@user-di5rm9ee1p You can lol all you want, but if you knew history, you would know that when the Swiss did fight, they generally kicked ass.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RockSpyPigeon Experience in fighting shape doctrine and exercise just keeps you sharp nothing else.

    • @user-di5rm9ee1p
      @user-di5rm9ee1p 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@norten76 I loughed how he formulated sentence not at the fact they didnt fought for long time... And actualy I know enough about Swiss to respect they way of thinking towards defending their country. In my opinion it is inside their society some form of military state and I like that fact believe it or not.

  • @shardell
    @shardell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +786

    Well, it looks like their tactics were ACTUALLY just to buy p90 and rush B

    • @JannyBesmircher
      @JannyBesmircher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      LOL

    • @douwehuysmans5959
      @douwehuysmans5959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rush Kiev Blyat

    • @Myriip
      @Myriip 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Nah, their tactic was to prop up Ukraine military with new tanks, APCS, anti-air vehicles etc.

    • @maxiona714
      @maxiona714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Why the P90? Is it so much better for certain things?

    • @shardell
      @shardell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@maxiona714 It’s a CS:GO reference, a stereotype in that game is that Russian players choose to throw out all strategy and rush B site with a P90. The P90 in the game is good for moving and shooting and spraying.

  • @virhonestus8921
    @virhonestus8921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Well this just got a lot more relevant today.

    • @Frost1945-s7w
      @Frost1945-s7w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I love how this video literally described the current situation of the Russians. On how they don’t have enough properly trained and skilled solider, there’s not enough modern gear, and how conscripts make the bulk of the force

    • @TB-zf7we
      @TB-zf7we 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Frost1945-s7w Russian don't seem to have a night fighting ability. When they attached the Ukrainian Nuclear plant at Enerhodar, they were using large artillery flares but none of the captured soldiers or vehicles appear to have any vision gear (that I have seen) other than I assume heavy vehicle (tank) sights.

    • @matissruncis9247
      @matissruncis9247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@TB-zf7we I am going to guess that Ivan only has enough modern stuff to make it look good on tv.🤣

    • @ronniefarnsworth6465
      @ronniefarnsworth6465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      War Criminals and Paper Tigers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @satanicmicrochipv5656
      @satanicmicrochipv5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matissruncis9247
      You would be correct.
      It's all propaganda/advertising to attract foreign investors.
      They can't afford the "high tech" gear they imply they have.
      Their super cruise stealth fighter for example, only exists on paper.
      The one they've rolled out is a plywood mock up of what it would look like if it was ever made.

  • @megaliidea1919
    @megaliidea1919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Hmm I wonder why this is re appearing in my recommended on February 24, 2022

    • @thescottishanimeguy9946
      @thescottishanimeguy9946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beats me. Maybe cause its the day where all this build up proved worthless as the Treaty of Minsk is being signed rn, resolving all issues between Russia and Ukraine.

  • @hellhammerCCCP
    @hellhammerCCCP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +642

    Thank you for this. Modern russian ground forces tactics are so undercovered in the western world.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      @@azonezon3219 whaattt? 🤨 U serious? U must be brainwashed. There were only about 4,5 million killed in Red Army. And Wehrmacht was also much more crowded. Not 3,5 million Germans so.

    • @medes7894
      @medes7894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      @@azonezon3219 can u pls give me any source?

    • @royalrhode2461
      @royalrhode2461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@azonezon3219 what kind of nonsense are you spewing lol

    • @aararqaae6451
      @aararqaae6451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      AzoneZon 321 oh my, stop trolling and go watch TIK or something, being raise on cia-backed data from German memoirs is a joke in 2020

    • @DeeplyRegarded
      @DeeplyRegarded 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      @@azonezon3219 lol no 25 million were total casualties including murdered civilians

  • @inhuman4
    @inhuman4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The graphics in this video were excellent. I especially like the one showing units on the march.

  • @CAARaeed
    @CAARaeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    This channel is a really cool little lockdown boredom discovery. Great, well-researched, well-presented content. Great job, keep it up! I am looking forward to more of your modern-era stuff.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Glad you like it!

    • @tierfuehrer2
      @tierfuehrer2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could not help it. I had to sub on the 1st vid.

  • @originalpastaman5470
    @originalpastaman5470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    One thing that I would critique about this video would be the "Meeting Engagement" being left out, with only attack and defend tactics being shown. The meeting engagement would be considered the most likely and most common form of maneuver and combat that the Russians would employ; as they envisioned future battlefields since the Cold war being largely that of maneuver of two apposing forces both on the attack against one another; with both defensive lines and contiguous frontlines of interlocking divisions side by side being a thing of the past.
    Understandably, this would be a difficult subject to pack into the video as that topic alone could constitute a whole video by itself, but would still love to see it. Apart from that, great video and information as always.

    • @dimmiheev2542
      @dimmiheev2542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you're right. modern combat tactics are constant maneuvers.

    • @id_Usher
      @id_Usher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of stupidity? An attack is a counter fight.

  • @F1ghteR41
    @F1ghteR41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    6:05 Your assessment here is incorrect. This level of radar deployment goes back doctrinally all the way to the 1980's (when the US wasn't issuing that much in terms of optics as well) and is based around experiences in major exercises and Afghan war, which can be summed as: (1) low visibility conditions are encountered way too often and don't prevent enemy from offensive actions, & (2) radars are only useful when they're highly mobile, but then they give an edge to your troops. There were no portable thermal sights at that time, and even now having a radar is a welcome addition to it (see S. Korean K2 tank as a primary example). If anything, it's basically the same train of thought that brought AN/PPS-5 into US service way back during Vietnam war, and it's also true for more modern systems like AN/PPS-15.
    8:43 In theory he would carry a pistol, first APS, then PM. Since 1989 RPG gunners were given AKS-74U. In practice, though, they rearmed themselves much earlier in Afghanistan.

  • @kevinesam
    @kevinesam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    What a quality video! Way more in detail than our Armor school’s doctrine

  • @gallivantingsprt
    @gallivantingsprt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I took a motostrelki forces sergeant training back in the day. And I enjoyed this video. It gives a clear picture of the most common tactics and organisation of the motostrelki. Great content! 👍

  • @kgthompson5814
    @kgthompson5814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    You should really tell russia about these tactics. I don't even think they knew.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      they use the tactics of theft and robbery. And the tactics of total destruction.

    • @pws354_8
      @pws354_8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      They know, the problem is that they didn't constantly practice and stress using it on field training exercises or force on force training before they were deployed in Ukraine, for them to effectively use what they know on the field. In addition, the US military was able to train the troops of field training exercises with MILES laser tag gear to be effective, while Russia's troops mostly used Potemkin training.

    • @alphabears6342
      @alphabears6342 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Force on force is good exercise when in small groups and platoons. When you fight a war in a conventional way, you cannot have such force on force training. The US during the Second World War did not train everyone force on force. It’s easier to train force on force when fighting an insurgent but the same cannot be said and done when fighting a conventional army.

    • @minydoom
      @minydoom ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake

    • @Mr.InbetweenFX
      @Mr.InbetweenFX ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They had this on paper, they were supposed to have the resources to carry this out but the corruption truly fucked their actual capabilities and fortunately it doesn't compare with the projected capabilities.

  • @Schwarzgardist
    @Schwarzgardist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for researching and putting these information together in such an easily comprehensible way!

  • @nimajneb4156
    @nimajneb4156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've been doing a lot of research into military formations and tactics for a novel I've been writing, and your videos have been exceptionally helpful in understanding how military units operate and fight. Please keep the content up!

  • @themax9913
    @themax9913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Motostrelki ‘80 are better than motostrelki ‘10 . Cause they cost less and can be spammed to annoy bluefor. And yes, it is a reference to the wargame series.
    Joke aside, very interesting channel i discovered just today, the video is clear and easy to understand which made me subscribe ! Great work ! Keep it up

    • @KenshiroPlayDotA
      @KenshiroPlayDotA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Weak Motostrelki cannot into glory of M60 men riding in GLORIOUS DESIGN OF M113 !!!

    • @pepebeezon772
      @pepebeezon772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really, motostrelki 75 is pretty bad because of the mt-lb

    • @pugsy7658
      @pugsy7658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pepebeezon772 but BMP be like brrrrt

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pepebeezon772 Motostrelki 75 is a good replacement for the recon tab

    • @chiken6559
      @chiken6559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      both can be countered easily by Fallschirmjäger '90

  • @SantiFiore
    @SantiFiore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I´m REALLY glad this appeared in my Home videolist, excellent work!

  • @myopicthunder
    @myopicthunder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love the way they are organized and self contained, everything they need is within reach.

    • @imrekalman9044
      @imrekalman9044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Check out a video about Soviet Microdistricts (micro-rayon)! Blocks of flats for 10-25k people, with everything you need daily (shops, kindergarten, everything except work) is within 5 minute walk, everything you need on occasion (doctors, theatre, etc.) within 15 minute walk.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And wasting in 3-5 days

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cbrefb3379 what

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@myopicthunder are you blind? Russian BTG losing activity after 3-5 days of battle without supply.

    • @myopicthunder
      @myopicthunder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cbrefb3379 is that what CNN told you xD

  • @thecanadiankiwibirb4512
    @thecanadiankiwibirb4512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    4:30 dude on the left does not look like a soldier while the dude on the right looks so stereotypicaly “soldier”

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Dude on the left is 18 yo conscript, and dude on the right is NCO instructor.

    • @dsheshin
      @dsheshin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clouster75 right

  • @alexernst9448
    @alexernst9448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Suddenly painfully relevant. Pay attention boys and girls. This will be important later.

  • @IITJII95
    @IITJII95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Boy I wonder why this is popping up in my recommendations.

  • @samgraham2110
    @samgraham2110 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I wish I knew about your channel when I was still an Officer. I might have been able to create Tactical Decision Games with my squad leaders based on your content! Thank you again for citing your sources.

  • @paladin0654
    @paladin0654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    At Leavenworth, we referred to Soviet formations as "motorized": MRC, MRB and MRR. We were envious of the Sovs organization because they rarely had to organize for combat, as the formations contained everything the commander needed. FYI, did you consider changing the name of your channel to "Order of Battle"?

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you'll find the ''MR'' in MRC (Coy, Bn, Regt) stands for ''Motor rifle''. In NATO speak: mech inf

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@simonh6371 are you sure? my understanding is that theirs a distinction. like mechanized has bradleys and such.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@danporter1176 Nah. I'm just going by what we were taught late 80s in British Army studying WP Orbats, and specifically what was in Intelligence Corps publications like ''Threat'' magazine, and recognition guidebooks. Actually I was a battalion vehicle/aircraft recognition instructor for a time, as part of Bn Int Cell duties.
      Not sure what you mean by there being a distinction. Basically at Brigade level upwards (if my memory serves me right) there was only MR or armoured, if you discount airborne. In otherwords unlike NATO they had no light infantry.
      Anyways MR and mechanised is effectively the same, I'm guessing motor rifle is just a more direct translation from Russian. Where mech has Bradleys, or Warrior in Brit army, Sov MR had BMPs.

    • @danporter1176
      @danporter1176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonh6371 ah thanks for the reply, I meant that the way I had it my head, was that mechanized generally means there are alot of tracked vehicles like bradleys or warrior. Cant remember where I got that from tho, could be bs

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danporter1176 Mmm not sure about it being specifically limited to tracked vehicles like Bradleys or Warrior. Warrior was introduced in the 80s, prior to that as well as 432s (tracked APCs rather than MICVs) there were battalions with wheeled armoured personnel carriers like Saracen, which is an APC not a MICV, so an APC didn't have to be tracked per se. The term MICV also only came in late 80s as the doctrine changed from debussing and tabbing (tactical advance to battle) to debussing from Warriors virtually on top of the enemy. The Sovs/Warsaw Pact also mixed tracked and wheeled in motor rifle formations, not only using tracked BMPs but also BTR 60s & 80s.

  • @elcormoran1
    @elcormoran1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    A singleRussian motor rifle battalion is like a small country army

    • @brutus9195
      @brutus9195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Capable of kicking the ass of anyone who climbs over the fence to them.

    • @jaqenhgar2264
      @jaqenhgar2264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      like Estonia

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That is why Chechnya kicked their ass in 1995 and in 2000

    • @lape2002
      @lape2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@leon19736 Russia kicked Chechnya's arse in 2000-2003 for GOOD! Now Chechens are part of Russian motor rifle companies lol

    • @leon19736
      @leon19736 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@lape2002 After loosing 10 000-15000 soldiers against 1 million Chechen.
      But Russia never valued its soldiers lives, so technically your claim is correct.

  • @sovietchadster907
    @sovietchadster907 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Excellent video. Although there is one thing: Makarov pistols have almost completely been retired. The more fielded and used pistol is the MP443 Grach

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Soviet Chadster meh, there is a ton of photographic evidence of motor rifle units using the Makarov recently

    • @student8136
      @student8136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Why would they be dropped? It's not a game-changer for military, pistol is there to symbolize the officers' status. Nobody will drop the good old PM until it runs out of the stocks. Modernized small arms are more valuable for internal forces, like FSB or National Guard.

    • @allianssd
      @allianssd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@student8136 there is a popular officer's joke, that Makarov is given to commit suicide in case of collapse.

    • @ns7023
      @ns7023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@allianssd Apparently they will be in high use now

    • @VolkovVelikan
      @VolkovVelikan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@student8136funny thing is the opposite of what you say, special forces, law enforcement and national guard use the Makarov more than the conventional Russian army does these days.

  • @buckplug2423
    @buckplug2423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Cool stuff. If we're on the topic - could you do a vid summarizing Russian map symbols? I've personally found that system to be quite interesting and a lot more traditional-esque than NATO's.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Z and V? Not so interesting as swastika

    • @Сталкер-ь2х
      @Сталкер-ь2х 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@cbrefb3379 haha funny z and v we get it
      but what about actual symbols used on maps?

    • @buckplug2423
      @buckplug2423 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He delivered!

  • @andremesot5144
    @andremesot5144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're website is just........................ Amazing !!! What a work !! Congrats & respect for your wonderful job !! No words...

  • @thedoctrinetv
    @thedoctrinetv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for this. There are already more than enough [insert nation] WWII Organization & Tactics and Cold War Org & tactics videos. There's very little in-depth content about modern foreign forces like UK, Canada, Russia, the Ukraine, China, Japan, South Korea, etc.

  • @Cothonian2
    @Cothonian2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are straightforward and detailed, which is a really nice change of pace. Keep up the good work.

  • @scottharbeck864
    @scottharbeck864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this information. I teach a class about this exact thing, with different sources. We seem to have very similar information, which is reassuring.

  • @baconman2.052
    @baconman2.052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This is the channel I've been looking for

  • @TrangleC
    @TrangleC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I guess we can see here were all those Russian tank losses in Ukraine come from. With the dismounted infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, they can't protect the tanks from anti tank weapons.
    They call this "Combined Arms", but it really isn't. Ultimately the different types of arms are only "combined" because they are on the battlefield at the same time, but they can't really effectively support each other this way. They just come in waves, first the tanks, then the infantry, which makes it relatively easy to take them on one by one.
    I know, I'll sound like a Wehraboo, but honestly, the Germans really do take the Combined Arms idea more seriously. Their mechanized infantry truly does fight right next to the tanks, in the same echelon, shoulder to shoulder, so to say. That is the reason why German tanks never used ERA, because the explosive armor would have posed too much of a hazard to their own infantry.
    It is also why German IFVs always had relatively puny weapons. (Mostly 20mm cannons and now 30mm, when everyone else is going for 40 or 50mm.) Their IFVs too are supposed to operate side by side and in between the tanks, so giving them bigger guns to defeat hard targets makes little sense and they rather concentrate on anti infantry armament to protect the tanks.
    I have said it many times, most armies nowadays, whether western or not, say they have a Combined Arms doctrine, but they don't really.
    Every time I say that, people accuse me of being full of shit, but information like in this video here proves what I am talking about.
    Combined Arms is when infantry protects the tanks and both tanks and infantry are supported by artillery. With the infantry 300 metres behind the tanks, it can't protect them, because that is already pretty much the effective firing range of infantry rifles.

    • @RandomGuy9
      @RandomGuy9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought all other armies used their IFVs like we do.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RandomGuy9 Depends on what you mean with "we".
      There are different doctrines, even within NATO.
      Most NATO countries, including the USA, use what is colloquially called the "Battle Taxi" doctrine.
      That means their APCs and IFVs transport the infantry near the battle, disembark them and then either take some sort of over-watch position, giving fire support from afar, or they just leave the infantry altogether and go doing "cavalry work", like flanking the enemy or hunting for targets of opportunity, while the disembarked infantry does its own thing.
      The Germans don't do that. Their IFVs are supposed to always work closely together and among the tanks and the infantry, sticking together and acting as one unit.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      300 meters? the effective firing range of infantry rifles? Are you insane? Even the lowest possible range for the average AK-74 puts it at 500 meters effective range, and you don't need to be that close to lay down suppressive fire, which is mostly how you prevent the type of infantry manned AT weaponry you're talking about from being used. The reason the doctrine didn't work in the early stage of the war wasn't because of an ineffective doctrine (god knows ukrainians aren't the first to fight the post reform russian army) but because they invaded with like, a third? of the ukrainian numbers, and spead out over a large front, they were vulnerable to ambushes and targeted strikes on their spread out logistics line. Most people say you're full of it, cause you are.

    • @TrangleC
      @TrangleC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kacper9853 You have obviously no idea what you are talking about. Just because somebody laying on his belly or sitting at a table with the rifle on a padded vice can hit something at 500 meters does not mean somebody stumbling over a corn field in full gear can do it.
      God, I'm so sick of people in TH-cam comments blurting out cretinous nonsense.
      Now the Russians suddenly were the underdogs who invaded with a third of the Ukrainian numbers all of a sudden?
      When the invasion just started, you Russia fanboys were gloating over how superior the Russian force was, with all those charts and info graphics showing how they had 5 times as many tanks and troops as the Ukrainians.

    • @kacper9853
      @kacper9853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@TrangleC ???? wtf are you on about "russian fanboy" russian fanboys deny that russia performed like sgit at the beginning of the war, just as they mega gloat that they're performing much better on the donbass front, even if they are only really performing up to the standard people were expecting from them at the beginning. also, the number of active russian soldiers was at 200k from the very start, I've heard literally 0 gloating from people that the russians had higher numbers, since a mobilized Ukraine instantly had the numbers advantage according to any reliable source. Those graphs you saw that said 5 times as many russians were either misinformation or someone trying to pump the numbers up for no reason. And ffs, the 500 meters range is taken as the very minimum estimate, the guy sittign on a pad perfectly still and confortable can hit further than that, something like 700 meters.
      Plus you ignore how you don't need to be at maximum effective range to scare off people trying to peek at you with a hail of gunfire, that's how suppression works.
      Nice one on doing literally nothing to defend your argument properly btw, instead saying I'm a "russian Fanboy", my roots are in Poland you diot

  • @ispeaku759
    @ispeaku759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    When we were being trained as motostrelki, our commander used to tell us that in a modern warfare first you fight for about 20 minutes, then fights what remains of your body. You don't hope to survive, do you?

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well he was mistaken. Casualties on both sides are very low rn.

    • @brokenglass9814
      @brokenglass9814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Average-mi6ih It's been what 5 days? The ukrainians have claimed in excess of 4000 DEAD russians. That's a lot of casualties.

    • @Average-mi6ih
      @Average-mi6ih 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brokenglass9814 the Russians have 200k there, at least half of them are involved right now.

  • @richardkent7369
    @richardkent7369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I came to see the last 8 months of comments. They did not disapoint. 🤣

  • @username100037
    @username100037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Well that's the theory. In real life a BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Imagine believing Ukrainian propaganda lmfao. Those long convoys are supply convoys but don’t let me stop you from making a fool of yourself

    • @username100037
      @username100037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 To do ist like the Canadians: LOL!

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 are supply conwoys equipped with tanks? those which were destroyed when they drive to cities in a row.

    • @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930
      @jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andies9817 no but did I say that? The op is talking about the long 20 mile convoys and those were of supply trucks plus a few armoured vehicles to protect them. Those convoys were not of tanks

    • @andies9817
      @andies9817 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jewishmafiosiandganglord6930 he didnt speak anything about 20 mile conwoys, "BTG is usually deployed in a long convoy without any support and drives directly into the enemy to get destroyed really quickly."

  • @jwyliecullick8976
    @jwyliecullick8976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actual factual content and no sloganeering. Thank you.

  • @tommylawton6253
    @tommylawton6253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1 year later, this video is obsolete

  • @WilliamThoren95
    @WilliamThoren95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    where is these Tactics & Structure now?!

  • @GuidoMillonezz
    @GuidoMillonezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I love this...its all excellence, you are a master!

  • @dallasblog6236
    @dallasblog6236 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    It's funny, I learned more from you about the tactics of motorized riflemen than from my commanders.

    • @Sk0lzky
      @Sk0lzky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      That's fairly common from what I've gathered, and that's regardless of where you serve. Unless you go through NCO school or higher you might as well not know what's happening.
      Hell, I've seen a clip (and heard similar stories) from Afghanistan where some freshly deployed murican kids asked their Lt "why are we doing this and that and not all firing on them" during a low intensity firefight as if they slept on basic doctrine classes. Same shit happens in proving grounds over here but that's exactly where you're supposed to learn that ><
      Like some officers will just treat their soldiers like the crayon memes are a real thing that happens all the time.

  • @tommyzDad
    @tommyzDad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    6:50: Now if game developers would build tactical games that had AI that actually dismounted and deployed like that!

    • @vercingetorix5708
      @vercingetorix5708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Without instantly getting run over by the driver.

    • @BobbyB1928
      @BobbyB1928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Wargame series does a decent protrayal of mechanized infantry.

    • @Someone-lr6gu
      @Someone-lr6gu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Check out Combat Mission Shock Force 2 or Combat Mission Black Sea. You'll probably like it.

    • @janbo8331
      @janbo8331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Dismount tactics DLC $50"

    • @srmen1
      @srmen1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@janbo8331 the Russians clearly didn't fork out for that DLC!

  • @yashalava5729
    @yashalava5729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wow, I’m a Russian soldier, and this info is insane i was interested to watch.
    Nice work.

    • @rafchitakoff3483
      @rafchitakoff3483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ПХАХАХАХАХА НАЙС НИК, военный

    • @rafchitakoff3483
      @rafchitakoff3483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Позорище ВС РФ, хатьпф

    • @dylancrooks6548
      @dylancrooks6548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      bad time to be a Russian soldier now huh

    • @leef8433
      @leef8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Uhhhhh

    • @HatlessTea
      @HatlessTea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      RIP in peace

  • @RedboRF
    @RedboRF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    criminally underrated channel. thanks mate

  • @southernknight9983
    @southernknight9983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was awesome info! I love learning about Russian doctrine and tactics.

    • @leef8433
      @leef8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well you can see them in action now!

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As we see in Ukraine... It only theory... In reality the russian army is like a Group of incompetence uncoordinated chicken

  • @OaprendizDeMotoqueiro
    @OaprendizDeMotoqueiro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bro did his home work so good that resume my 2 years studying in 15 min 😫😫😫😫

  • @briandavitmusic9421
    @briandavitmusic9421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    >combined arms
    >russian military
    bro pick one

  • @savelievvsergey
    @savelievvsergey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quite accurate, although AKS74U is being currently phased out and replaced with standard AK-74 (or AK 100 series )

  • @kerednilon4276
    @kerednilon4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Working out great...without missiles and rockets they are just rabble. Privates, led by lieutenants, yelled at by the occasional general who shows up to get droned into early retirement. Also radar won't help you when one tank in your column gets their lid popped and your whole platoon scrambles off the road into the woods like a gaggle of bleeting sheep.

  • @IoachimSavianPopovici
    @IoachimSavianPopovici 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This was so interesting! I'm definitely going to use this in my Arma 3 scenarios

  • @blbelt2001
    @blbelt2001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    It's honestly entertaining to watch this following the disastrous Russian Invasion of Ukraine

    • @rpm1796
      @rpm1796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Read history.
      The majority of Ukrainians east and south of the Dnieper are Ethnic Russians....They have been there since the 1780s under Catherine the Great.
      Watch Patrick Lancasters reports from the front.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      same thoughts. Russian infantry is good for circus only. They are constantly dying otherwise

    • @novislavdajic983
      @novislavdajic983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be disastrous if Ukraine became soviet republic once again.

    • @Bracket.
      @Bracket. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@novislavdajic983 freedom or death. So there is no way for russians to extend their prison.

    • @AkeN996
      @AkeN996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rpm1796 Read some history. Russia was under the Mongolian Empire before Russia even existed. Therefore, Russia is Mongolia. 🤣

  • @Oxide_does_his_best
    @Oxide_does_his_best 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A++, good point about lack of night vision optics here. Generally they compensate by using vehicle mounted optics. SNCOs are usually given weapon mounted night vision. Most Russian soldiers do not know even the basics of fighting at night and this is a terrible vulnerability

    • @ДмитрийГусев-ю1ю
      @ДмитрийГусев-ю1ю 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, night combat is bad for a year of service, we had 2 night shooting and 1 reconnaissance with artillery fire (this is for conscripts in artillery reconnaissance), night optics on armored vehicles, there were only 3 portable for 45 people (this is in 2014)

  • @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
    @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Russian IFV's can swim their tanks can ford rivers by driving on the bottom (preparation required). Choke point are therefore avoided.

  • @garryb374
    @garryb374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The radar is not for compensation over lack of optics. Radar is for situations like snow storms and dust storms and heavy rain where optics are just no good. The French also have battlefield radar and their night vision optics are just fine. The radar are often mounted on support weapons like 12.7mm cal HMGs and 30mm automatic grenade launchers.

  • @Alpharius_20
    @Alpharius_20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great stuff. I've been looking for something just like this for a while now. Looking forward to you covering some VDV, Naval Infantry, or even Spetsnaz stuff.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spoiler alert* they all die.

    • @Alpharius_20
      @Alpharius_20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@f.wallace8969 Oh, how much change a year can bring.

    • @f.wallace8969
      @f.wallace8969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Alpharius_20 lol, yeah. Noone factored in the wildcards.. gross incompetence and corruption.😂
      I thought they were better too...

  • @rirtunsasgi2626
    @rirtunsasgi2626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Tactics: None.
    Structure: Collapsing.

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol keep eating up that Reddit and Twitter Ukrainian state media propaganda buddy hahaha

    • @sharwama992
      @sharwama992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch military analysis of what is happening not western propaganda the Russian military has its short comings but it isn’t as incompetent as western media would like to portray

  • @SheriffSticky
    @SheriffSticky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I like those convoys, easy targets for turkish drones

  • @TheTeodorsoldierabvb
    @TheTeodorsoldierabvb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kudos for including the "There is no better training, comrades, than fighting to survive!" theme from COD 2 :D

  • @peterprovenzano9039
    @peterprovenzano9039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Thanks for the video on the post 2008 reorganization.
    I was wondering if you could get any info on a modern PLA battalion? I’ve searched a lot of places but it’s hard to find their TO&E. If you did a video on the PLA that would put me over on being a patron supporter .

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Might have to call your bluff!

    • @peterprovenzano9039
      @peterprovenzano9039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have not checked back at this video. You did an awesome job with the PLA video and I kept my word and became a patron supporter. Thanks. Keep up the awesome work. I find myself watching your videos over and over

  • @joetheperformer
    @joetheperformer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Medal of Honor soundtrack hits some nostalgic feels man.

  • @Murmelmann
    @Murmelmann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Would be interesting to compare it to what we see in Ukraine today.

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      many units failed to use their communications equipment and fought like they did in ww2.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, just like the video.
      Mostly, they never get beyond column formation.
      Basicay, this is not a responsive, fluid way of doing things, and their doctrine / culture goes agains individuall initiative. So when you get attached before your planned deployment, you're in trouble.

    • @jaroslavsvaha6065
      @jaroslavsvaha6065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@horizons3844 From what I've heard, since their shiny new military radio depends on 4G, and since they shot down Ukrainian radio towers, they have been using cell phones for military comms. Lmao

    • @horizons3844
      @horizons3844 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ekevanderzee9538 i thought they decentralized command after 2014 - maybe some generals haven't been as adaptive.

    • @ekevanderzee9538
      @ekevanderzee9538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@horizons3844 that problem seems to take care of itself. 3 generals down and counting and units left to fend for themselves galore.

  • @neilgriffiths6427
    @neilgriffiths6427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Think this vid might just comprise the entire training regime for those shiny new conscripts Ruzzia have mobilised.

  • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
    @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Btw were are some vague rumors of battalion TOE changes since 2008 reforms. Motor-rifle brigades seem to grow from 3500 to 4200-4500 men total, possibly with addition of one extra platoon to rifle companies (but squads reduced to 7 men). Additionally AGLs seems to be divided between companies and the second BMP returns to company command squad, making 15 BMPs per company. Must not be true for regiments in divisions (they more akin to soviet-era TOE) and probably not true for every brigade. Strong rumor suggests engineer and recon squads detached from rifle battalions to form additional company in engineer and recon battalions respectively

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting. The 2nd Company HQ BMP rumor I had seen, but not the 4th platoon. I haven't seen much credible in writing so didn't feel confident reporting it

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If true would the 2nd BMP just be the grenade launcher squad's pre-existing BMP?

    • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
      @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BattleOrder alternatively, it can be 4 squad platoons (then that would be roughtly the same number of men for increased number of fighting vehicles). Probably true only for BMP formations then. I have zero proof on any of the facts myself anyway, so that's all just a fuel for imagination) At least reserve officer training manuals I've seen so far operates more or less old TOEs.

    • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
      @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BattleOrder well, the last thing to leak into the internet was 'super new look' brigade which had rigle battalions without dedicated agl platoon but with 15 bmps in a rifle company. With one bmp being a agl squad vehicle, there is little room to divide other 14 bmps other than 2 at the compant command plus 4 times 3 or 3 times 4 in maneuver platoons.

    • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
      @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BattleOrder bmpd.livejournal.com/157478.html - a leak source. Btw it says 'heavy brigade', we officially have only one heavy brigade (21th guards motor rifle brigade - so called 'experimental organisation'), but since then there were number of proofs about motor-rifle brigades being 4000+ men in total (more than in 2008 TOE).

  • @morokolli8700
    @morokolli8700 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good document!!.. Greets from Finland!!🦅🇫🇮

  • @snadem506
    @snadem506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An amazing video! But 2 notes. I myself am an FO squad leader in an finnish mechanized battalion. And i just wanted to note that mechanized units almost never dig trenches or heavy fortifications we are all about speed. And also a tank would never retreat to friendly lines by turning around exposing its rear to an enemy wich it has engaged.

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The tank turning around point is fair; I just did it so it was obvious what was going on. But as for mechanized forces, the entire Russian infantry force (except for like the parts of the VDV not mounted in the BMD) are motorized or mechanized in MT-LB, BTRs, or BMPs. And most infantry brigades ahve 3 infantry battalions and 1 tank battalion, so even Russia's lightest main forces (motorized rifle brigades) have tanks to reinforce a defense or act as a reserve. As far as I know this isn't the case in Finland with its Armoured Brigade, but I may be wrong about that.
      No armor-centric force can remain on the offense at all times. Sometimes the infantry are going to have to conduct a prepared defense. If the Motor Rifles don't do it, then all who are left to do it are Russia's proxies (as in Ukraine)

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BattleOrder good point. But atleast here we dont hunker down so hard because the armored vehicles give us protection and when we stop the enemy assault we fire on/behind them with artillery and the reserve force and some of the defending force will allways counter attack and try to push them back. Because if we are right up at their bussines when they start to retreat they cant fire artillery on us or they are likely to hit their own troops. That is allso why we use artillery behind the enemy force so they are trapped between artillery fire and advancing force of tanks and men.

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BattleOrder and allso big armoured forces must keep moving or the chances of them being spotted and fired upon by artillery and anti tank cluster rockets gets really high after a few days. Ofcourse they stop to refuel and rest but then usually another unit will take their place and go on with the attack. But like i said amazing video love u dude ☺️

    • @clouster75
      @clouster75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@snadem506 I wonder what is a tactic for dealing with huge combined arms assault force (standard 3:1)? You are going to counter-attack them too?

    • @snadem506
      @snadem506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clouster75 first we stop them. Then we drop a shit ton of arty on them and if they try and regroup/fall back then fuck yeah well push them as far as theyll go

  • @QasimAlKhuzaie
    @QasimAlKhuzaie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I immediately subscribed after watching this video! Great job!!

  • @blackore64
    @blackore64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think I saw a picture in Russian Ministry of Defence's website from one of their excercises from this year which shows a medic with regular rifle squad armed with AKS-74U in an exercise. Are Medic-riflemen possibly equipped with these in some units?

    • @BattleOrder
      @BattleOrder  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don't know the full context or a lot of the nuance with regards to the AKS-74U so I can't really say. They were originally meant for vehicle crews (like a tank commander or a BMP driver, but not the gunner who got a regular rifle). Nowadays it seems they've proliferated more as a carbine for some positions but I don't know how much flexibility there is with that

    • @ФедяКрюков-в6ь
      @ФедяКрюков-в6ь 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      AKS-74U are long out of production and used only if available. The only 'legit' rifle is AK-74M (at least until the AK-12 ), althought russian TOE's are quite fluid an can be changed on regimental/brigade commander's decision based on equipment available. At some point in the past even RPG gunners could have been armed with AKS-74U (or AKS-74 or any other more compact version of AK).

    • @cesargonzalez4146
      @cesargonzalez4146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Alexandr Noskov I believe current gen weapons are bound to obsolescence, the main factor is that body armor and ballistic protection is becoming more effective, light weight and affordable by the minute, not only restricted to military and police forces but expanding to terrorist groups, insurgents and criminals, in ten to fifteen years they will surpass current gen weapons and projectiles. In my opinion is a waste of time and resources to keep spamming new weapons looking for improvements in accuracy, stability and rate of fire, things that are important but not that important. Armies will have to change not only weapons but the type of ammunition the weapons use, new kinds of projectiles, more dense, travelling at higher velocities, with a flatter trajectory, able to pierce through next gen body armor and ballistic protection.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      The Russian Federation very much carries on a pragmatic old Russian military practice of phasing out weapons very slowly unless they are seriously obsolete, so you will find plenty of soldiers still using AK74s and AKS-74Us. The plan is for most all soldiers to use AK74Ms, but the Kremlin is not in a rush. If you make all the few millions of guns Russia's standing army and first line of reserves need in just a couple of years, it is hard to justify keeping all those skilled workers around just to make the few hundreds of guns needed to deal with wastage as soldiers drop them in the ocean or run them over with tanks. If you make just a few-hundred-thousand weapons a year for a decade or more, you can keep a lot more experienced people around, and so the factories are much better able to expand in the event of an emergency. Also helps spread the costs out over time.

    • @markacostajr.1584
      @markacostajr.1584 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alexandr Noskov when was this?

  • @brandondavis7777
    @brandondavis7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These videos and graphs help me set up platoons, companies, etc in ArmA.

  • @onesones899
    @onesones899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Отлично рассказал быт мотострелков.Браво!

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Забыл рассказать про краденные унитазы

    • @Wayfarer.731
      @Wayfarer.731 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@cbrefb3379очередной НПС прибежал

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Wayfarer.731готовь себе черный пакет

  • @masafelipe7033
    @masafelipe7033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff, i love that subtle MoH soundtrack in background.

  • @eshdizzle
    @eshdizzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done! I was especially interested in the Company level radar. Interesting bit of kit for the formation.

    • @cbrefb3379
      @cbrefb3379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russian propaganda fairy tales- in real army no one radars

  • @CowboyCavalier
    @CowboyCavalier 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make more like this. This is better quality than a real military briefing

  • @namechamps
    @namechamps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2022 Russian Infantry Tactics. 1) Get stuck in mud 2) Run out of fuel and food 3) Get hit by Javelin in the face

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      4) Tell the world that 1) - 3) was planned 🤣

  • @Khasidon
    @Khasidon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Well this turned out to be completely wrong. They aren't professional, they don't have good equipment, they have low morale and supplies and they have extreme high casualties.

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But they are good in building dense lines of vehicles that can be destroyed easily..

    • @fluffymyato3334
      @fluffymyato3334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You got it all wrong. You see, russians are the best at intercepting missiles and bullets. Do you know how many missiles russian tanks have intercepted?

  • @notnice94
    @notnice94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Russian infantry tactics 2022:
    >Go into battle.
    >Lose half of manpower and technicals.
    >Retreat and spread fake news that you won the battle.

  • @justing.3541
    @justing.3541 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you as always for listing your sources!

  • @luskvideoproductions869
    @luskvideoproductions869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Now that we've had 6 weeks of the Russo-Ukrainian War in full effect, I'm curious to know how decimated the participating Russian divisions/brigades are now, and how well (or how quickly) the Russian ground forces have been able to re-org and/or replenish this structure. Also...while this "modernization" has been much talked about, its clear that much of this modernization is either just window-dressing, or has flat-out NOT been implemented...or both. Because it's clear there's already an issue with the Russian Army's communications network, otherwise all that radio chatter intercepted by the Ukraine/Western intelligence services would not be occurring.

    • @MrCrazyfizik
      @MrCrazyfizik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So it's been about 11 weeks, the Russian army fully controls Kherson and Lugansk, as well as most of the Donetsk and Zaporozhye regions, and also small border areas of the Nikolaev, Kharkiv and Krivoy Rog regions. That is, out of 24 regions of Ukraine, the Russian army and pro-Russian forces of 4 regions, 3 regions are under threat. And the total area of territories under the control of Russian and pro-Russian forces is 15% (7% before the invasion), which, for example, is larger than the territory of such a European countries as the Czech Republic or Hungary.
      In fact, the Russian army in the Donbas is slowly breaking one fortified area after another, and Ukrainians have set up a lot of fortified areas on the territory of Donbass for 8 years, so it will last a long time.
      And during this time, the Ukrainian armed forces were unable to conduct any major offensive operation. In fact, Ukrainian troops are only stubbornly defending themselves and conducting raids, and this is despite the mobilization carried out, the gigantic military assistance to Ukraine from the US and the EU, and this is even despite the fact that the Russian army has deployed troops of a smaller number than the Ukrainian army has. According to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, only part of the troops from the forces that the Russian army has allocated against Ukraine are participating in active battles, and the offensive has not even begun in full force. That is, Russia involved not just less forces than the Ukrainian army, but much less: of the about 90 BTGs allocated to attack Ukraine (which is less than half of the ground forces), Russia has so far involved no more than 60-70 in active battles (for what reason most of the forces are kept in reserve is an interesting question). The number of Russian troops involved against Ukraine is less than 100 thousand people, while the Ukrainian army has a strength of more than 200 thousand people. In other words, the Ukrainian army, having superiority in numbers with the active support of NATO countries over the past 11 weeks, cannot counterattack the Russian army, but can only defend itself from the Russian army, which has involved only a small part of its forces.
      In fact, the Ukrainian army in 11 weeks was able to conduct only one successful military operation - the sinking of one cruiser "Moskva", which was unaccompanied. However, this has nothing to do with ground operations in the Donbas, where most of the Ukrainian army is concentrated, and where the Russian army is purposefully attacking. No other APU successes have been shown for weeks. And at the same time, the Russian army continues to launch missile and bomb attacks throughout Ukraine for all 11 weeks (i.e., the Ukrainian air defense and missile defense system is not able to resist this).
      As for the "radio interception": is there any evidence that the intercepted radio communications are not fake? The fact is that the authenticity of the intercepted conversations is not possible. Also, the same set of callsigns appear in the intercepted conversations, i.e. radio communications of only one military unit out of many were intercepted, which may well have outdated communications compared to other military units, since there are a lot of military units in the Russian army and they are very heterogeneous (just like in any other large army). Or the radio communication of one particular unit was compromised (after all, espionage operations are also not excluded).
      This is a very strange war where, on the one hand, Russia did not use its forces at full power and does not seem to have plans for full control over Ukraine (in general, the operative plan was already clear for the 2nd week - the purpose of the operation is only Donbass and the Ukrainian troops concentrated there, which are just slowly being squeezed out), in while Ukraine, who has been preparing for this war for 8 years and with the active help of a large number of people, the country is fighting in full force, trying to defend herself stubbornly, but still is not able to reverse the situation on the battlefield. As a result, this conflict has turned into a war of attrition (where Ukraine has no chance, and economic losses for Ukraine this year may amount to 30-45% of GDP), and it seems that politics plays a much bigger role in this war than full-scale combat operation.

    • @luskvideoproductions869
      @luskvideoproductions869 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrCrazyfizik Well...that's not entirely true, the Russians have completely withdrawn across the northern region around Kyiv, and they wouldn't have done so if their positions were still tenable, so it's not like the Ukrainians have been "unsuccessful" in counter-attacking...otherwise, the Russians would have just dug it, they retreated substantially from that region and move (depleted) forces over to the East. The fact is, the Ukrainian military (according to Gen. Ben Hodges) has been well trained at delaying Russian advances, and on top of that, decapitating the command and control structure of the Russian forces (and all but admittedly thanks to U.S./Western intel help).
      So no, they are not really an offensive force (yet). But neither has the Russian army...you take at face value that they have massive reserves not committed to this fight yet, but a lot of that is probably related to the conscripted nature of what military forces they have left in that region: they literally used up some of their best units in the 1st days of the war...and now that the next wave of conscriptions are coming up to the front, who have no motivation to get themselves killed...why WOULD the Russian generals tell them to get up to the front when they would just get slaughtered.
      Im not gonna argue about the false-flag radio traffic...other than to say Western intel services probably know better than you or I just how weak the chain of command communications are with the Russian forces...whether these recordings are just clever tidbits coming from Ukraine, who knows.
      Bottomline: Russia is a paper tiger, and the longer this war goes on, the worse off they are gonna be...and at some point, Putin will really need an off-ramp to get out of this mess, and then the question is: will Zelenskyy make some territorial concessions to bring this to an end. Because right now, it's in Ukraine's best interest to play defense and try to let the clock run down some...it's gonna be painful for them as a country, for the people and the economy...but eventually, it's going to be increasingly painful for Russia. You watch: if Putin gets desperate and calls for a general mobilization, that's when the outer provinces (who are doing most of the dying in this conflict, cuz it's not personnel conscripted from the major metro areas, where news of funerals travels fast) are gonna start disobeying conscription calls...then Putin's govt. is gonna be a real mess.

    • @sharanmaran8312
      @sharanmaran8312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrCrazyfizik L

  • @thomasglessner6067
    @thomasglessner6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the commentary.

  • @strikingearth2947
    @strikingearth2947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about the TikTok battalion, looting crews, or the Chechen spray and pray teams?

  • @joshreynolds72
    @joshreynolds72 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exceptional video. Glad it showed up in my random feeds. New sub.

  • @GangstaCrizab
    @GangstaCrizab 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I will never forget the Soviet theme music from Call of Duty 2. Good choice.

  • @blacktoast_2158
    @blacktoast_2158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:40 Russia has a variety of artillery and can vary from unit to unit but it can be divided into 3 sections: Rocket artillery, Self-propelled artillery and towed artillery. Some examples are the BM series of MLRS, The 2S19 SPG, and a Msta-B gun

  • @mb-bl5yt
    @mb-bl5yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "What makes it so easy to fight Russian forces is that they neither use their doctrine, nor remember to bring enough fuel past the weekend" - The Entire World Apparently

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The world wonders where is Russian supply trucks

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they have two armies... One chaotic for Ukraine and one brilliant on paper... The russian army has the same level of incompetence and corruption as their industry. A Kind of Burkina Faso with rockets

  • @fullcody1
    @fullcody1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    tactics appear to be, stand in line and get droned

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @juch3
      @juch3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yakivpopavich haha "rouble"

  • @robertschultz6922
    @robertschultz6922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The infantry radar is interesting. I'm not sure how rugged they have to be to be placed on grenade launchers

  • @KueiJames
    @KueiJames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:27 I didn't see the wheels at first and thought he was holding up that heavy mortar almost by himself.....lol

  • @PropperNaughtyGeezer
    @PropperNaughtyGeezer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mostly they park on the streetside out of fuel.

  • @philodonoghue3062
    @philodonoghue3062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Watching this while the Ukrainian army is ripping the Russian armour including BMPs and infantry to shreds, this video turns out to be retrospectively academic

    • @PrincipeMNE
      @PrincipeMNE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah right 😌no more videos on tik tok 🤣

    • @maxmustermann-cy9zn
      @maxmustermann-cy9zn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PrincipeMNE How is your 3 day miitar special operation going?

    • @PrincipeMNE
      @PrincipeMNE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxmustermann-cy9zn 3 day?
      It took USA 20 years to occupy Afghanistan and they failed so yeah 3 days for space marines it's possible

    • @maxmustermann-cy9zn
      @maxmustermann-cy9zn ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PrincipeMNEThe US won, Afghanistan lost after the US pulled out. The entire force lost less people in 20 years than russia loses in a month

    • @PrincipeMNE
      @PrincipeMNE ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxmustermann-cy9zn when did us win any war? Dude don't make me laugh

  • @joshuacantu7155
    @joshuacantu7155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Who's here for Ukraine study

  • @weekendjail1417
    @weekendjail1417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've said it before... but you guys gotta do a video on the Polish Army in 1939.
    This channel is criminally undersubscribed. Keep up the good work.

    • @weekendjail1417
      @weekendjail1417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, I'm thinking about actually making a Patreon account for the first time, just because this content is so good.

  • @AKKK1182
    @AKKK1182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sounded good on paper lol 🇺🇦

    • @yakivpopavich
      @yakivpopavich 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to see all the Ukrainian Civilian casualties thus far, I hope Putin deploys a ICBM or his bombers and turns Kiev into ash and rubble. 🇷🇺 🇷🇺

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russia..a paper tiger

  • @geraldhng8774
    @geraldhng8774 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Underrated channel.

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky3461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Did not age well, in theory it looks good, however in practice is a dumpsterfire

  • @evgeniykryzhin7308
    @evgeniykryzhin7308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot about a heavy machine guns platoon and a snipers squad. Also, regardless of the presence of anti-tank weapons on the BMP, the anti-tank weapons platoon remains in the scheme of the motostrelkovyj battalion :)

  • @CitizenH1
    @CitizenH1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This aged like prison hooch.

  • @albmartinez314
    @albmartinez314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Breakdown!
    Also, thanks for translating the terms! This is definitely helping me with my Russian!

  • @arcavahaethon2669
    @arcavahaethon2669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Call solid wall "nazi", charge wall directly with head, save money for groceries by spending very little on fuel

    • @augusto8821
      @augusto8821 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Write "Z" on your tanks... "Z" for Zombie Army

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent work. Thanks for posting.