"ACCIDENTLY" THE MOST OVERPOWERED TANK IN WAR THUNDER? - T-80BVM

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
  • The T-80BVM is the most powerful tank in War Thunder. Whether the armour is accidentally causing no spall or it's on purpose, it's definitely working in the Russian Tanks favour.
    The T-80 tank is already a fantastic platform for War Thunder. All of the heaviest armour is front and centre giving the tank very little weakness. The T-80 BVM takes this to the extreme. With Kontact armour bricks slapped all over the hull and ERA bags hanging off the side, this thing is basically cope incarnate. For a video game though, this works EXTREMELY well!
    The T-80 is no slouch either being one of the quickest tanks in the entire game and on top of this, it has one of the best performing rounds in the game. Seriously, a few times in this video you'll see my shell barely scratch the enemy vehicle but still somehow manage to knock out the crew.
    Anyway, Russian Bias doesn't exist... right?
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  • @OddBawZ
    @OddBawZ  2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

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    • @NewDemocraticMan
      @NewDemocraticMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is it the new decal yet? I've plastered most of my stuff with the original one!

    • @whatev888
      @whatev888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes please SPAA videos that would be awesome thanks Odd!!!!!!!!!

    • @Imzeboss
      @Imzeboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      please play the T80 and T28e in the USSR 2.3br, they are great fun and you have never done a video on both tanks (40th try)

    • @uniquescorpions4802
      @uniquescorpions4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your going to point out “biased armor” let’s not forget the Relict plates underneath the relict bags. Yeah I’m watching you being shady as always. You either do it for views or attention, maybe your just a liar. Be factual or don’t bother saying “bias”

    • @Spacko
      @Spacko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got the Decal, still hate playing the game :P

  • @Raigoth
    @Raigoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +651

    "The best thing about playing russia is not facing russia."
    Couldnt have said it better myself.

    • @mk88vvv
      @mk88vvv ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao

    • @capncrispypoo9342
      @capncrispypoo9342 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Live Air RB Reaction:

    • @RedVRCC
      @RedVRCC ปีที่แล้ว

      so glad I mained russia

    • @villie86
      @villie86 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you can't beat them, join them.

    • @tunguska2370
      @tunguska2370 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The amount of time I playing Russian mirror getting out of hands at top tier

  • @sivertkind
    @sivertkind ปีที่แล้ว +350

    I used to have huge issues with dealing with the soviet tanks like the BVM but after training for a long time, learning its weakspots and keeping my calm and aim really well I can safely say that i still have huge issues with dealing with the soviet tanks like the BVM

    • @yspear_
      @yspear_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's like when you first go against a tiger but after a few time you realized that the ammo rack go boom

    • @KorporalNoobs
      @KorporalNoobs ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Learning to shoot breach and lower plate is only so useful, if rounds just disappear . _ .

    • @xirzepelin
      @xirzepelin ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @ghost0d077
      @ghost0d077 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@Corp Neo lol I love when you shoot the fuel tank of this thing and there's 0 spalling it just stops the tank not the thing from shooting you😊

    • @lars7747
      @lars7747 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or just play Russia and turn your brain off

  • @MJRSoap
    @MJRSoap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1871

    ERA blocks do provide some kinetic protection. However only (Russian) tanks actually have it modeled, any other vehicle is 5mm equivelant. According to released French documents, the BRENUS ERA blocks provide about 100mm of kinetic protection. In game it's 5.

    • @SwissPatriot88
      @SwissPatriot88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Another proof like hundreds of others that they make russian tanks better than they are AND even more important, they make the other tanks bad, because they wouldn't stand a chance...

    • @MJRSoap
      @MJRSoap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +405

      @@SwissPatriot88 It's not even like this information is still classified, the BRENUS data can be confirmed by 3 different sources, an issue of Janes Armor, the French Military documents themselves, and the Greek AMX-30 trials. All sources that Gaijin has used before.

    • @pixula7542
      @pixula7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      yeah is so bs that kontakt 1 can block some Depleted Uranium round with more than 500mm of pen

    • @duvagr007
      @duvagr007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      To be fair Kontakt ERA was specifically designed to stop kinetic rounds as well as chemical. It is true that all era still does something to kinetic, but kontakt does a lot more than most. Still should be modeled for everybody else though.

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@pixula7542 i dont think the tank in that scenario was the problem my friend, i believe you just got gaijin'd, a universal glitch where projectiles go to the shadow realm

  • @vinx3156
    @vinx3156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +486

    Odd: Why do people keep asking how i got so good, i literally just shoot people lol
    Also Odd: Wipes out half the enemy team in 40s, detects every armored vehicle on every distance on every plane of existance, pinpoint shoots enemies for one shot kills going light speed while blindfolded

    • @chrisstopher2277
      @chrisstopher2277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could you do that if it was your job?

    • @NotSoSerious69420
      @NotSoSerious69420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@chrisstopher2277 I don’t know if I could learn this level of skill if I played 10 hours a day every day.

    • @chrisstopher2277
      @chrisstopher2277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@NotSoSerious69420 it takes a special person to be able to pay this game 10 hrs in a day. I would become unhinged.

    • @smolwavingsnail9028
      @smolwavingsnail9028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Also also Odd: claims to have "boomers eyes" 😂 can see things in tree lines 2km away

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NotSoSerious69420 The secret is Adderall

  • @MrIlovetogame
    @MrIlovetogame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    Its literally impossible to deal with in a stock M1A2, ERA and contact everywhere so your HEAT does absolutely nothing. Hope the BVM doesnt have a clue and you might have a chance

    • @juanbait9670
      @juanbait9670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Use your speed and mobility to flank, "less" protection in the back and sides or enemy tanks.
      But when shooting at russian tanks in general expect a bounce or the tracks/sprocket eating the shot ect, so reverse as soon as you shoot and pray to RNG for the next shot.

    • @Honoer
      @Honoer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@juanbait9670 yeah I think his comment was more concerning the balance, pointing out the tanks are not balanced. Obviously you can flank, you could flank it with a jumbo and possibly burn it out. But it’s not about being 3x better player you should be tanks vs tanks that are generally equally balanced so you don’t have to completely outplay the enemy. Or get lucky.

    • @IanAwfuls
      @IanAwfuls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My advice? Don’t use stock tanks. XD

    • @user625FNDA
      @user625FNDA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I hope they add T90M

    • @juanbait9670
      @juanbait9670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@IanAwfuls thats bad advice, grind through the pain and adapt to the situation.
      Instead of trying to kill mbts directly, assist your team by tracking tanks they are fighting and try and focus on assists.
      By struggling through the dificult parts you get better

  • @Sacrilege7294
    @Sacrilege7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    That XM-803 hit at 04:58 is insane because of the amount of spalling, while your T-72/T-80/T-90 series are just laughing while taking ammo rack shots without detonating.

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  2 ปีที่แล้ว +140

      Not a single piece of shrapnel even got the crew either! Lol

    • @Sacrilege7294
      @Sacrilege7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +149

      @@OddBawZ Yeah, it's downright insane how handheld they are. They're not even hiding it, it's just there, downright shameless on the blatancy.

    • @thecrab2791
      @thecrab2791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@OddBawZ genuine question: Do you think Russian bias exists? Im only at 9.0 so from my perspective, its just seemed like gross incompetence from gaijin but it seems horrible at top tier.

    • @rettichdergeile9361
      @rettichdergeile9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@thecrab2791 I believe it does exist, but only to a degree, there are also issues like Ghost Shells, bad hit calculation, server connection problems and actual skill issues

    • @hardlylivin6602
      @hardlylivin6602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@rettichdergeile9361 The lack of spalling seems like a pretty big degree. Seeing as though it could make or break a shot.

  • @roguestriker8889
    @roguestriker8889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Balance at top tier has been broken for forever and the Russian line up has just been dominating for so long. Doesn't help though that anytime this is pointed on the forums people just respond with just "well X nation dominated at X time" so that makes it ok.

    • @troutwarrior6735
      @troutwarrior6735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Also doesn’t help that whenever something disrupts the meta everyone suddenly starts screaming “Germany OP” “USA OP” or hell, even “Japan op”

    • @emmanuelchavez7748
      @emmanuelchavez7748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      War thunder players when you tell them that video games needs to be balanced, fun and real events do not matter: 😡

    • @Haaton-of-the-Basement
      @Haaton-of-the-Basement 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@troutwarrior6735 As a Japan Main when it's our time to do the funny. Our vehicles do be OP, however when the clock marks 12, The Snail abandon us and we return to the never ending pain. I don't have other nations at Top tier (mostly at 7.3-7.7) so i don't know how OP they can be when it's their time to be the funny.

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The Russian line up does get more and longer periods of favoritism by Gaijin

    • @bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150
      @bobsjepanzerkampfwagen4150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@troutwarrior6735 germany is like the fifth best nation for top tier

  • @keno2048
    @keno2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    A short while back Odd asked about whether the standard video or the narrative videos were preferred. I'd kinda like to see a little of both. Like, a narrative intro where he shows off the vehicle in narrative fashion "This, is the T-80BVM, a marvelous work of Russian war time destructive power with xxxxxx armor that's capable of yyyyyyyyy, a xxxxx main cannon that can penetrate yyyyyyy mm of armor, etc etc etc", while showing game footage of the armor or gun or whichever doing the thing that it does. Then proceed to a normal video of game footage.

    • @slayedice1647
      @slayedice1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Spartan Elite? That'd be kinda cool actually

    • @ericschmidt2085
      @ericschmidt2085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree with this.

    • @OddBawZ
      @OddBawZ  2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I’ve done this a couple of times but the editing is very time consuming. It can take me 10-14 hours of editing to get it right.
      Hard to strike a balance! Spending 8 or so hours on 2 minutes of footage is a lot of time.

    • @daniel_f4050
      @daniel_f4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OddBawZ But the ones with "Steve" are incredibly funny. You've got a talent for those funny little intros. It's a shame they are so time consuming as I find them very enjoyable.

    • @keno2048
      @keno2048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OddBawZ I hear ya... That was just the thought that was in my head, but I get it that it would be a bear to get done. Keep doin your thing dude, I was not at ALL trying to say that I don't enjoy your content the way it is. /salute/

  • @AlexDahl
    @AlexDahl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    One thing I've noticed personally and have seen around a little bit is specifically a lot of russian tanks seem to have issues stemming from volumetric shells where if the turret is moving, even hitting one of these things right in the ammo rack with a KE round doesn't do anything significant, if it even affects the ammo at all.
    This thing is just so fucking annoying to play against though and has been for such a long time.

    • @Agm1995gamer
      @Agm1995gamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Russian tanks in war thunder have anywhere between 10 to 25 percent more armor value than they actually should have, it isn't even being shown in the game.
      Proven several times by people who calculated the penetration values in game and c9mpared them to real life ballistic testings of russian armor.
      So basically all russian mbt's are about 15% more armored than they should be and you can't even see the numbers in game.

    • @polykidd1817
      @polykidd1817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Russian bias is real!

    • @kasparkallin7229
      @kasparkallin7229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@polykidd1817 YES. Like the dshk mg can just 1 hit planes and russian AI back gunners 1 or 2 hit planes. But there is like a lot of that hidel BS in war thunder like the russian GAZ truck crew not geting hit but in the replay u can see the guy takeing like 50 rounds.

    • @OTCaptainSean
      @OTCaptainSean ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Watch Spooksten's Russian Bias vid he shows that in the game files Russian tanks have spall set to false.

    • @aidonger42069
      @aidonger42069 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@OTCaptainSeanhe was the first to bring it to my attention and I have 2K + hours now. Spookstons a G

  • @Pawniac
    @Pawniac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    It's not even funny anymore; Shot at 8:27 pens your side and oranges your fuel tank behind the turret but absolutely nothing else. No spall, no ammo, no crew, nothing.

    • @marekmazurek98
      @marekmazurek98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      What did you even expect, it's a Russian game

    • @schrodinger_cat-d9h
      @schrodinger_cat-d9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marekmazurek98 Skill issue

    • @danielpincu6030
      @danielpincu6030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I’m tired of people denying Russian bias. I used to think it was bs and there was none but that was in the ranks 1 and 2. Once you get to rank 3 the armour of Russian tanks is absurdly effective at deflecting shells to the point I just run away from them or try to flank them.

    • @schrodinger_cat-d9h
      @schrodinger_cat-d9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@danielpincu6030Yeah, russian armour is so effective at rank 3 that I being one shot in 97% cases of getting hits on my overpowered t-34-85 (it should be a light tank with these 45mm of armour). Even heavy tanks like IS-1/2 can be easily killed in front
      But if using is-1/2 you drive backwards + know how to angle you can bounce a lot of shells. Just a matter of skill

    • @schrodinger_cat-d9h
      @schrodinger_cat-d9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@danielpincu6030 You just don't know where to aim
      For experienced player IS-1/2 is no more than a free kill with it's 30s reload and leaky armour. Aim to turret cheeks, centre of upper front panel, or the whole lower front panel
      You can penetrate it, believe me

  • @Phapchamp
    @Phapchamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    T-72/80 series tanks have pure absolute bs damage model ever since they added bvm. You would shoot the tank in the carousel and it would still somehow """""passes between""""" the charges and wont do jackshit. Despite the fact irl carousel covers the entire tank frontally... or a sabot impact against a few hundred milimeters of armor would make the inside of the tank like a damn bee hive sharapnels jumping everywhere.
    IRL THE CAROUSEL HAS NO GAPS BETWEEN CHARGES IT IS LIKE A WALL EVERY PENETRATION HULL PEN ON T-80 SHOULD BE AN AMMORACK

    • @Conraf
      @Conraf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      and the relikt ERA pack will eat darts for breakfast (the upgrade covers entire vehicle in chemical protection, imagine You are in your new, completely stock, top tier tank with HEAT. what can You do?)

    • @another_humann9588
      @another_humann9588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Stalin summnons a portal so the round and shrapnel pass through the tank without doing anything.

    • @user625FNDA
      @user625FNDA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Conraf Very unfair a stock tank no be competitive as spaded ones.

    • @user625FNDA
      @user625FNDA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Conraf Should Ace crew be the same as 0 points crew?

    • @Gary_The_Metro
      @Gary_The_Metro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@user625FNDA Honestly, yes.
      ace crew and just in general crew skills are a blatant pay to win mechanic. yes you can technically get it by grinding, but reality is... it's often just pay to win. Because it takes hundreds upon hundreds of hours to get even just one crew to level 150, not even mentioning several.
      A premium tank can be powerful, but generally speaking they don't necessarily give any extreme OP benefits with a few notable exceptions.
      A high crew skill reduces your reload rate, increases how fast you turn your turret, how fast you repair, etc. It very actively makes every tank you have orders of magnitude better

  • @7shelties
    @7shelties 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    That OP ERA on the side has swallowed so many darts on me. Even DM53 from the 2A6 has disappeared. It’s armor is so broken. It honestly deserves a nerf.

    • @TowerJumper
      @TowerJumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look closely. Behind the white bags on the side is another layer of ERA. So its not broken, everyone is just blind af. No joke there actually are 2 layers of ERA, the second layer is just almost fully covered up by the bags.

    • @VenomGamingCenter
      @VenomGamingCenter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@TowerJumper And it still needs a nerf. Having two layers doesn't take away from that fact.

    • @TowerJumper
      @TowerJumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VenomGamingCenter true, but i just get annoyed when people say its broken because the facts are there, most people just look over it and dont notice the second layer. Because the 2nd layer stops 200mm kenetic, and thats a lot. But yeah it is still russian bias

    • @MASB29
      @MASB29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TowerJumper that is not how era works, and era that short wont do anything against KE, only the long one. This thing is op and need nerf asap

    • @TowerJumper
      @TowerJumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MASB29 short ERA?

  • @andrewvazzana383
    @andrewvazzana383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I didn't realize an apfsds round could spall like that. All the other rounds from other tanks seem anemic in comparison in that respect

    • @tyrbaan7295
      @tyrbaan7295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Crazy what playing in a Russian tank can do for you in this game.

  • @raizencore
    @raizencore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I've lost count of the times I've shot the ammo on Russian mbts with nothing happening, a lot of us say stuff like "Russian bias" as a joke but maybe it isn't really a joke. I also would love to see you take out the Type 10, this thing is fantastic and someone of your skill will surely make some great content with it!

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Ive shot ammunition on countless vehicles with it disappearing of all nations, mainly Germany

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Russian Bias is definently real. Data mining the game files literally shows multiple buffs for Soviet tanks.
      Not to mention Gaijin is literally a Russian company with connections to the Kremlin

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@LeMeowAu Germany is the second nation with the most bias.

    • @schrodinger_cat-d9h
      @schrodinger_cat-d9h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@WaukWarrior360 Skill issue, lol

    • @ludio5447
      @ludio5447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Maybe becouse you mostly play against USSR, and only soviet tanks can be oneshoted in ammo, so everyone shots ammo and in case of nothing happend think "russian bias"? Try to play against Abrams, Leo's, Challangers in tank assault and shot their ammo from behind, it cant explode either

  • @shadewolfe3131
    @shadewolfe3131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    To answer your question about ERA, a lot of modern ERA is specifically being designed to be able to counter kinetic rounds as well. This includes Relikt ERA which is CLAIMED (hah) to cut the effectiveness of APFSDS rounds by about 50% or so? I'm not sure about the factuality behind that, but it makes sense for modern ERA to work against darts at least a bit.
    That being said the lack of internal spalling on the BVM is still silly.

    • @Hovis_Enjoyer
      @Hovis_Enjoyer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      It's designed to, but modern NATO APFSDS such as DM53, use tips that are designed to defeat Russian ERA, and practically render it worthless

    • @288gto7
      @288gto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Bag era isnt relikt it only works against heat. The "relikt side panels" are also completely different than the relikt bricks that you see on the front of the tank which do work against KE rounds. "Relikt side panels" only work against CE despite having the same relikt name as its brick counterpart. Also depends on the round but the general figure i ve seen is 40% which even with that bvms shitty ufp should not be able to stop dm53 out of the l55

    • @TheFadZero
      @TheFadZero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wouldnt be surprised if the claim about relikt ERA is true.
      Most tanks we have seen getting destroyed in the ukraine war are from top down attacks or artillery/missiles.

    • @288gto7
      @288gto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Hovis_Enjoyer that works against kontakt 5 , not relikt

    • @shadewolfe3131
      @shadewolfe3131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Hovis_Enjoyer There were rounds design to counter ERA, and then ERA designed to counter the counter-ERA rounds. Relikt is the second kind of ERA

  • @ascherlafayette8572
    @ascherlafayette8572 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Odbawz: bouncing every shot
    me: instantly loses breech

    • @M109_KAWEST
      @M109_KAWEST 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U didnt mentioned that all the kills he got was because enemy was deaf and blind, and the armor did nothing. the speed and maneuverability + the agressivity did everything

  • @zavienyoung7117
    @zavienyoung7117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    could you imagine if germany or the US had a tank that was as good as the BVM. it would get fixed immediately

    • @peachok3564
      @peachok3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tanks of almost all countries are good at different times. When the abrams were introduced into the game, they were the best

    • @zavienyoung7117
      @zavienyoung7117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@peachok3564 yeah i dont care, im regarding right now that russian tanks magically dont allow kinetic rounds to spall. but if it were a leo or abrams, that shit would get fixed in a day or two. thats my point

    • @johanapolinarioveliz6754
      @johanapolinarioveliz6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@peachok3564 The problem is, Russia has EVERYTHING, best ground (t series with ERA capable of eat DM53), jets (Mig 27K/M), helis (Ka50/52, Mi28).

    • @aflyingcowboy31
      @aflyingcowboy31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@peachok3564 The difference is, Russia has had a 70-80% WR at top tier for 1 year now.

    • @peachok3564
      @peachok3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aflyingcowboy31 the same was for USA top tier teams a few years ago lol. USSR players was displeased. It's all about war thunder - somebody must be sufferer

  • @Mark-ft7nw
    @Mark-ft7nw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    its unreal and irl we saw all they got in those pouches are egg cartons anyway

    • @Polygon-yug-9581
      @Polygon-yug-9581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hehe, it's quite funny how many people still believe in this myth...

    • @Mark-ft7nw
      @Mark-ft7nw ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Polygon-yug-9581 its funny how many people still support russia invading ukraine

    • @Polygon-yug-9581
      @Polygon-yug-9581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mark-ft7nw
      I don't really know how that correlates with what I wrote, but sure, mate. ;D

    • @AFT_05G
      @AFT_05G ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Polygon-yug-9581 Myth?Nah, many Russian tank crews got promoted as cosmonauts irl.

    • @Polygon-yug-9581
      @Polygon-yug-9581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AFT_05G
      Your mockery is wasted... Anyway, it doesn't change the fact that what this NPC above me stated is a simple myth originating from a lack of knowledge about ERA blocks and how they actually function or look like. Although feel free to try to prove the "egg carton" myth, I'm waiting. ;D

  • @ExcavationNation
    @ExcavationNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I can't wait to see the seal clubbing video odd puts out after all this top tier game play😋

    • @setaripantheon8801
      @setaripantheon8801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Here we have a seal, and here is a Russian made Sledge, let's see how they get along...!

    • @hansiminator69
      @hansiminator69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heyyy Dude! :)

    • @ExcavationNation
      @ExcavationNation 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hansiminator69 sup bro!

  • @supersimon126
    @supersimon126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "These weird bags here (That are empty irl lmao)" Had me dying and i had to rewind and hear it again. Thanks for a good laugh, Bawz

  • @berndmaier915
    @berndmaier915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    If I am not mistaken the T-80BVM started being manufactured in either 2014 or 2016 for comparison the leopard 2a5 which is also 11.0 is from 1995, I dont get how gaijin figured tje T-80BVM is 11.0 this thing should have started a new br bracket for the most modern vehicles

    • @cezarhg2007
      @cezarhg2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      trust me, its not as op as it seems, everyone one shots your lower front plate because its so weak

    • @berndmaier915
      @berndmaier915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@cezarhg2007 Having your main weakness be the lower front plate is actually very strong since thats the first thing to disappear behind cover

    • @cezarhg2007
      @cezarhg2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berndmaier915 well not for me since i enjoy CQC and when im peaking corners usually my engine is in cover and everyone target my massive lower front plate

    • @berndmaier915
      @berndmaier915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@cezarhg2007 Still doesnt make it any less strong. It has weaknesses and can be killed, like every other tank, but its weakspot is less exploitable than with tanks that have weak mantlets or upper front plates plus its got that weird almost no spalling going on so that doesnt make it any easier to kill

    • @_Beans_
      @_Beans_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@cezarhg2007
      lmao on every other mbt at top tier the entire hull is a weakspot (except sweden), let alone a small strip of armor at the very bottom of the hull.

  • @tmseh
    @tmseh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A T-80 walks into a bar.
    The bartender says "We don't serve your kind."
    The T-80 says "So-viet."

    • @D4rk3mperor
      @D4rk3mperor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ffs I got it good joke lol

  • @sushiman3817
    @sushiman3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    I've never been one to call something blatantly op in this game because in general everything you see has some way to effectively and reliabiliy kill it. The jumbo for example. Hit the mg port or the ufp seam and it's dead. But this is the only tank that has basically no weaknesses at all. Useable reverse, good forward gear/acceleration, good thermals, a .50 cal, good round, good reload, unbelievable spall mechanics, and absolutely ridiculous armor. The only thing that could kind of be said is the gun depression, but that's something Russia has dealt with just fine since the start. Bvm genuinely needs to be the first 11.3 tank.

    • @HellbirdIV
      @HellbirdIV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Better would be if the Russian tanks in WT were actually modeled internally after real Russian tanks and not fantasy tanks made from pixie dust and dreams.

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The armor is over modelled i think but the era is fine. Is spall liners modelled into the game?

    • @sushiman3817
      @sushiman3817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@LeMeowAu the era is kinda ridiculous I think, I hit a bvm at about 30 meters. Side shot and the era are the whole ass round. It was silver bullet too. As for the spall liners, no it just doesn't spall when you hit the sides or lfp at all. You can test it in the protection analysis

    • @chief5861
      @chief5861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@LeMeowAu Gaijin have specifically turned off Spalling for the T Series tanks. They do it from time to time. We first found out about this filthy move when someone found it in the code while data mining.

    • @Plant3468
      @Plant3468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only issue with the Russain Tanks is the magic no spall device. I use the Chally 2s and hardly have issues killing them. You just shoot the same weakpoints you would normally shoot, driver port, lfp, roof (if visible same with gunner sight) mantlets are hard to shoot on the Russian Tanks but if it pens, they're fucked by their 7kmh reverse speed.

  • @tkg__
    @tkg__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    The newer ERA models do have some kinetic protection. The first generation ones found on early T-72/T-64s should only work on chemical rounds.

    • @arturbalakhnin9770
      @arturbalakhnin9770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      contact 1 is not really used on newer ´tanks only that was unablle to work against cinetic but contakt 5 and all the otzhers are excellent at working against cinetig helping with deminishing the penetration by arround 50-60% and the t72 b3 has contact5 so it works against cinetic and they are not empty or filled with eg carton those seen on video are plastic spacers that give the era on the sides a 60 degree angle so it works more efficeantlly.

    • @lifedroid
      @lifedroid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arturbalakhnin9770 Ukrainian media propaganda at it's finest now everyone thinks that BVM ERA is filled with eg cartons

    • @arturbalakhnin9770
      @arturbalakhnin9770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lifedroid I mean only idiots that do not know shit or do not have the idea to research something that sound absurd but what a world we are living right now what a world stupidity as a norm and status quo.

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@arturbalakhnin9770 bit over contak 5 is effective just not 50-60%, its relict i believe with that much

    • @arturbalakhnin9770
      @arturbalakhnin9770 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LeMeowAu malahit is up to 90% because of longer plates contact was around 50 to 60 and relict was somewhere in between but contact 5 doesn't work against tandem, relict does.

  • @silverfortytwo9506
    @silverfortytwo9506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bruh the difference in post-pen damage between t3BM60 and every other top tier round is insane

  • @firecracker7736
    @firecracker7736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As soon as you posted this vid, I was like “might as well play the bvm, I got a freaking nuke and was never shaking so much because i got it on record”

  • @heffron25
    @heffron25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Only thing I dont understand - if we have T-80BVM in game why dont we have also new M1A2 SEP variants, Leo2A7 etc. so there is some competition agains BVM.
    The US top tier is pain with shitty thermals and zero reactive armor.

    • @thegamingpieguy2797
      @thegamingpieguy2797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      russian bias my child. the shrapnelling, the insane armour of russian tanks, the downgraded armour and dart performance of western tanks etc etc... its russian bias

    • @Honoer
      @Honoer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Then how is gaijin gonna paint the russian tanks are better picture they have been trying to do for soo long? We will see the t14 armada before the m1a2 sep.

    • @redips8947
      @redips8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thegamingpieguy2797 Braindead teammates when playing NATO doesn't help either.

    • @yashma4187
      @yashma4187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's only a matter of time. Gaijin's entire business model is predicated on making people pay to grind. I don't think there is anyway Gaijin won't add these tanks eventually if they have the ability to model them.

    • @johanapolinarioveliz6754
      @johanapolinarioveliz6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      at least USA has good CAS and the ADATS. Germany has regular CAS with the Su22UMK (which was added recently), the F4F is 11.0 with no reason (only 2 AGMs and no homing radar missiles). And let's not even mention the other nations like Japan, or Italy with its starfighter.

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    T-80BVM in WT: **Tanks 80% of shots fired at it and proceeds to laugh**
    T-80BVM IRL: **Explodes upon observation from AT systems**

    • @4ik4irik43
      @4ik4irik43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, you didn’t see the T-80BVM, they showed how 1 tank without infantry cover would lower Ukrainian positions, while receiving 5 shots and continuing to work and shoot back! So do not invent fairy tales! No matter how you cry, but this is a good tank!

    • @Registered_Simp
      @Registered_Simp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@4ik4irik43 First off, when I said AT systems, I was referring to modern ones like Javelin, which has a fantastic reputation among Ukrainian operators. Second off, I would like to see a source for your claim of shrugging off hit after hit.

    • @divinesan7786
      @divinesan7786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big difference between where the tank got shot: 1 from the front, 1 from the top which btw most tanks weakspot.

    • @4ik4irik43
      @4ik4irik43 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @T B , lol t-80bvm is not the best tank of the Russian Federation, but it can withstand multiple hits by NATO's best anti-tank systems! Just don’t cry, just think your abrams from napkins explode, but ours are not pierced!

    • @mrprism5382
      @mrprism5382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@4ik4irik43 put on your cope cages, maybe it will stop a Javelin

  • @IcedEmu
    @IcedEmu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    And guess what, its gonna remain the best tank in war thunder despite real world combat proving otherwise

    • @288gto7
      @288gto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Real world combat" aka ukraine hasnt proven shit about tank on tank engagement. Just repeats what we already saw in grozny in the 90s

    • @clausroquefort9545
      @clausroquefort9545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the fact that it's easy to kill with modern top attack missiles does not invalidate the resistance of the frontal armor against kinetic penetrators.
      ERA missing irl is cringe tho

    • @WarBomb117
      @WarBomb117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes cuz gaijin loves all nations the same ;)

    • @clientcomun1958
      @clientcomun1958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clausroquefort9545 That shows how incompetent and disinterested they are in crew protection. Easier to send the invaders to space with their turret without it , so i for one am happy they cheapened out on it.

    • @clausroquefort9545
      @clausroquefort9545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clientcomun1958 another popular theory is that they did have the ERA but it was sold off due to corruption.
      there are enough operators of soviet style tanks in the world that would love to get some top of the line ERA for cheap and the lack of fuel in the initial invasion was most likely due to corruption too - the fuel had either been pumped out and sold or was never even bought with the allocated funds.

  • @TrueCanad1an
    @TrueCanad1an 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Well we've seen enough photo's of Russian tanks with their turret blow off so just add the Javelin to the game.

    • @justduro1527
      @justduro1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If they do that pretty much any tank in the game without aps would be doomed

    • @zinnsoldat6493
      @zinnsoldat6493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Soviet tanks were designed to fight tanks,not the mobile infantry with atgms .

    • @dylanclark9488
      @dylanclark9488 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zinnsoldat6493 there's a Stryker with javelins as it's main armament

    • @Brian-qj4kk
      @Brian-qj4kk ปีที่แล้ว

      javelin is useless

  • @Zack_knifed
    @Zack_knifed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Damn Bawz! I was in this game with you! Ryzon47, I was in the BVM flanking on the right on the first game (Spaceport). I actually took out a M1A1 who was flanking you on the right. Never knew I had you in my team. No wonder we steamrolled ❤

  • @rawandmohammed5642
    @rawandmohammed5642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The issue with t80bvm and other russian mbts are that kinetic rounds dont have any spalling in them , not throught the era blocks, they dont spall even when u shoot them in drivers port or lower glacis, their spalling damage is set to 0 in the files for more than a few months spookston showed this with proof, top tier against russian has been a nightmare

  • @dragonmania8853
    @dragonmania8853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Italian p40 has an apcbc shell with 250g of explosive. One taps everything it pens, even no armor tanks

  • @justinw.7045
    @justinw.7045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This patch has more visual issues than a cross eyed blind man.

  • @Agarwaen06
    @Agarwaen06 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Listening to a Scotsman whilst drinking japanese Whisky is the heresy I just needed today.

  • @blockwood316
    @blockwood316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    It's as if Gaijin has ramped up the bias in direct relation to how shittily Russian armor is currently performing in their "special military operation".

    • @MoonlightVKV
      @MoonlightVKV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are doing great, it's the ukrops getting rekt.

    • @MostAmayzingThing
      @MostAmayzingThing ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@MoonlightVKV Cope harder lol

    • @MoonlightVKV
      @MoonlightVKV ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MostAmayzingThing "c0pE harrzdeerr" As i said, urkrops are getting rekt, getting inside cauldrons like sheep to the slaughter. Slava zuccini!! :D

    • @infinity67833
      @infinity67833 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      How are leotards, abrams and challengers doin sir?

  • @chalion8399
    @chalion8399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's not just the vehicle is a bit off, Odd usually is playing against sheer morons. I usually get Patton or Wittman to fight against while Laurel and Hardy are on my team, with Abbot and Costello sitting in spawn talking about baseball.

  • @thisguyyyyyyy2723
    @thisguyyyyyyy2723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:53 amazing ricochet physics there, Gaijin.

  • @thatregularguy
    @thatregularguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who would have thought a mbt upgrade revealed in 2017 would beat other mbts from much earlier. Exception being the type 10

    • @mauswaffe
      @mauswaffe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Type 10 is also not very well represented in game. The mantlet shouldn't be a weak spot and the LFP should have spaced armor. That still would be worse protection than everyone else though.
      That is because the main point of this tank is mobility. Compared to the Type 90 it should have better accelleration but Gaijin made it worse because "they don't know how much better". You'd assume they'd at least make it equal.
      And the autoloader can reload way faster but I'll just assume that is balancing.
      So no, the Type 10 isn't worse than other tanks of the time, it just focuses on other aspects. And Gaijin fucked those up in game...

    • @thatregularguy
      @thatregularguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mauswaffe yeah no I 100% agree with you, I was more comparing them based on what year they were introduced.

    • @Northern00
      @Northern00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mauswaffe welcome to the leclerc gang, been begging for the ahistorical nerfs to be removed for years but the snail will never listen to anyone but Germany or Russia mains

  • @bubba9r
    @bubba9r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    No one will ever be able to tell me , after nearly 9 years of playing WT. That Russian tanks and Heli dont have different sets of damage taken and damage output numbers compared to other tanks and Helis.! lol

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's literally present in the game files.

    • @AsphaltCowboyUSA
      @AsphaltCowboyUSA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s also present with planes and ships. RU is superior to all other nations. LOL 😂

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AsphaltCowboyUSA Hence the Russian Propoganda (.i.e bias) in the game

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've played since 2013 and while some of that is true, each nation has been OP for a time. I remember when they made tracer rounds OP on American .50 cals, I remember you only needed to scratch enemy aircraft and they were set on fire always instantly. Or I remember how Germans used to dominate tanks completely for a long while. So the bias isn't just for Russia.

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@teemuvesala9575 The only problem is Russia is OP more often than any country and the periods last longer.
      They're also more OP consistently

  • @EnterTheFenix
    @EnterTheFenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "Russia at top tier is amazing"... WT has made the transition to fantasy genre i see

    • @Azerkeux
      @Azerkeux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Remember when T-34 were bouncing rounds that were as much as 50degrees outside of the deflection window or that the KV-1 and 2 'Accidentally' had 100 extra mm of frontal protection that didn't appear in armor analysis, or that mid/late war Russian tanks were using ammunition developed in the 1990's... Yeah, WT definitely doesn't use their game to stroke national pride or ego at all, that's absurd to even suggest it.

  • @mauer594
    @mauer594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've seen several (accurate) computer simulations of what ERA does to APFSDS rounds. It does have an effect, but it's not extreme.

  • @enda0man
    @enda0man ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah Russia, what feels like the only nation where you black out multiple rounds in the ammo rack and still not get a kill

  • @Nertaku_zockt
    @Nertaku_zockt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Never thought there would be a game, even less balanced than WoT.
    Gajin be like: "Hold my Vodka!"

  • @pixula7542
    @pixula7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    im pretty sure the "russian bias" thing still exist in this game, i played and almost finished the entire ussr tech tree and its so disgusting that some russian vehicle are really under BR, and also some russian ERA are too strong against kinetic rounds. you might be wondering why Kontakt 1 ERA can fully stopped M900. they are russian dev, so i can't complain about that lol.

    • @peachok3564
      @peachok3564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not because they are Russian developers, but because there are many players from Russia. In general, when Abrams were introduced into the game, for a long time they were the best tanks, and Soviet / Russian tanks were weak against them

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it is a rare occurrence you could've just misjudged an angle or could've just been gaijin'd

    • @pixula7542
      @pixula7542 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      idk man, i've played this game for a long time and reached rank 7 on every single nations in the game, so i can tell that russian top tier has the most bullsh*t line up and damage model in the game rn, sometimes i feel bad for ruining people game with MiG-27K & Ka-52.

    • @ryzkiguruh2942
      @ryzkiguruh2942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pixula7542 idk man i played the Ussr and the only great thing about top tier russian lineup is 11.0 with BVM,27K and 2s6, other than that russian lineup its pretty meh, they also late in the technology departement like only got thermal at 10.0, and they're slow as hell compared to other nation gun handling is bad and Cas is non guided. My point is yes T80BVM is OP, but other than that i dont think russia that conpetitive in the game

    • @WaukWarrior360
      @WaukWarrior360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ryzkiguruh2942 Regardless, damage output and modeling numbers for Russian vehicles are all buffed.

  • @canned__meat
    @canned__meat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I haven't played top BR in the game yet but looking at how damn quick everything is, it's crazy for me 😂😂
    I look forward to it but I think it'll be one hell of a learning curve.
    Awesome video, Odd!

    • @848hjhmg
      @848hjhmg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Top tier is like completely new game. Forget everything you learned in lower BR, And if you dont play russia, you will suffer endlessly!

  • @haydendill6288
    @haydendill6288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was gonna make the empty irl joke too XD. Probably going to hang at the lower tier for eva, so neat seeing the top tier gameplay.

  • @fuciguma2886
    @fuciguma2886 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "those empty side bags/filled with egg carton" are really not empty irl, there are using some kind of composite material
    just a fun fact

    • @Husker5454
      @Husker5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well yes ideally they are filled but in real life it seems the conscripts sold all the inserts off to china lmao cus they went to ukraine with nothing but spacers

    • @Zoider_
      @Zoider_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Husker5454 Or the more logical option would be that the conscripts or Russian tankers took the era with them when their tank is disabled rather than letting Ukraine have it or sell it to china. because we all know if it gets in Ukraine's hands America is getting it to reverse engineer it

    • @Husker5454
      @Husker5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zoider_ while i joke about the conscripts it you are far more detached from reality it likely just not supplied to the tank in the first place , you dont have time to unbutton each bag and take out the inserts in an active combat zone after your tank gets disabled lol , additionally why the hell would America want to reverse engineer worse tech than they already have and have for 30 years . Not to mention why would ukraine go out of there way to collect ERA inserts and send them to america its not in their interests .

  • @edim108
    @edim108 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Relikt ERA was designed to protect against kinetic rounds. It woks in a similar way to HEAT-FS rounds- it has multiple shaped charges going at an angle that upon impact are supposed to push away or even break APFSDS darts. It works really well, but NATO doesn't use that type of ERA bc it poses much greater risk to nearby infantry and is a lot heavier than regular ERA.

  • @aepceo1
    @aepceo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That ERA type deflects and breaks up APFSDS.

    • @janchovanec8624
      @janchovanec8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you sure that 50mm of steel is going to deflect and break up a dart that penetrates 800mm + of steel?
      Before you answer, please ask yourself how much is 2+2 and why does it matter.

  • @projectmjolnierunsc3511
    @projectmjolnierunsc3511 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    still to this day i wanna know when tf will the abrams family get their external armour packages like wtaf

    • @tyrbaan7295
      @tyrbaan7295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When Russia gets its newest overpowered tank, so the external armour for Western tanks can stop like 15mm of KE and 200mm of HEAT while whatever is mounted on their next tank has an APS with 40 ammo that stops all projectiles.

  • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
    @joetuktyyuktuk8635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Maybe some "realism" should be implemented to restore balance... a 50/50 chance your t-80 spawns with no ammo, empty reactive armor or half crew... not holding my breath, though.

    • @LeMeowAu
      @LeMeowAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great i would also love the implementation of ww2 german armor being 50/25/25 good, overhardened or iron, and universal engine problems for everyone, can't have the good without the bad, also slight chance in every nation that the tank has a minor missing part, shitty crew commiting theft isnt just for Russia.

  • @YourBasicPatriot
    @YourBasicPatriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Could you do a video on the L-62 AKA the Swedish bathtub. It has so much HE it can kill a B1 or 105 Sherman through the roof 💀 also 1 shot panzers with ease

  • @dingoe8841
    @dingoe8841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Trust a primarily Russian/Hungarian development team to make the Russian tanks effectively the best tanks in the game (not to mention the fact that their ERA is the only explosive armour that has a realisticaly moddeled effective protection effect compared to every other country in game)

    • @p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69
      @p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      hungary is just a financial safe heaven, if they want to operate in EU they must have an office in EU, that's it. also their bank accounts are in Cyprus because no taxes on businesses. All the design and development is done in ruSSia by mentally disabled high-school students (see sounds development over the years) under the direct supervision of GRU and propaganda dept. they must follow Putler's narrative otherwise they go to jail for 15 years.

    • @neural9875
      @neural9875 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69 ahhahahahahah

    • @CombatArchive_1
      @CombatArchive_1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69 Oml the western propaganda has fucked you up 😂

    • @p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69
      @p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CombatArchive_1 funny how all the ruSSians run to the west when the conscription starts... 2nd aRmY iN tHe wOrLd lEtS aSk iRaN fOr DrOnEs aNd cRuiSe MiSsiLeS

    • @CombatArchive_1
      @CombatArchive_1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@p3r7urb3dSkumbag.69 Keep crying, and also Russia has heaps of missiles they just don't produced enough drones so they're buying them in bulk from Iran for about 20k each? I don't see a problem with this?

  • @daniel_f4050
    @daniel_f4050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The question is wether Gaijin will actually do anything about the tank being effectively immune to 95% of incoming fire? Which, if they would be objective, is purely post Gulf War level Abrams omnipotence wishful thinking considering the power of those weapons at War Thunder ranges. Or with they snail it and boost its repair cost to divert attention?

    • @tyrbaan7295
      @tyrbaan7295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, they'll just leave it as it is. Gaijin just want a tank they can roll around in and decimate everyone without even trying.

  • @guigasz
    @guigasz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's supposed to be one of the best tanks in game since is one of the newest that entered service on the Russian military, this being on 2017, and kontact 5 era was designed to stop chemical rounds and severely reduce the penetration on Kinect rounds, but unfortunately that's only modeled on some tanks on WT

  • @gabenchrist7331
    @gabenchrist7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    interesting to see that the BVM is the best tank in the game, while seeing how incredibly bad it performs irl. With only around 200 existing, around 20% of them were already lost

    • @nguyenminhquan3584
      @nguyenminhquan3584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is the best performing tank in the entire war irl, what are you talking about?
      The zerg rush of febuary and march is over and the tank is proving itself

    • @camh4656
      @camh4656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nguyenminhquan3584 proving itself in Ukrainian hands 🤣 most are captured and shooting at their own makers.

    • @geniusderweise400
      @geniusderweise400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@camh4656 This is just plain false. After the past few weeks people who are understandably pro ukriane but don't manage to disconnect their political view from military reality, seem to be getting a lot more desperate so they fall back more and more to straight up lies and claims presented as hard facts. Everyone who isnt directly in Ukraine know that the early days and weeks of the war only showed that good weapons can seem bad if it is used the wrong way, logistics are stretched and the front is understaffed and the recent events and not so recent news about catastrophic ukrainian casualties have shown that if used correctly russian equipment can be very deadly and efficient

    • @camh4656
      @camh4656 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geniusderweise400 I ain't reading that

  • @KaanTechCrazy
    @KaanTechCrazy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    funny how irl, these tanks have milk and egg carton as ERA on the sides.

  • @boredanesthesiologist7673
    @boredanesthesiologist7673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    meanwhile in real life:
    *turret goes yeet*

  • @yomaster12345
    @yomaster12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Meanwhile M1A2 cries in no ERA, tiny armor coverage and Gen 1 thermals lmao

  • @TowerJumper
    @TowerJumper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you look closely, behind the ERA on the sides is another layer of ERA. (They are like flat plates) These ERA packs is what stops the kenetic rounds. The egg cartons in the white bags only stop HEATFS.

  • @Brzeczyszczykiewicz1899
    @Brzeczyszczykiewicz1899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Game: FUCKING bias
    Real life: FUCKING free frags

  • @screwstatists7324
    @screwstatists7324 ปีที่แล้ว

    modules don't do squat when the crews are conscripts ordered to drive single file into enemy lines across an empty field

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Recently, they also buff the TU4's max speed in Air Assault Arcade, good luck intercept them with ME262. Earlier on, they deliberately nerf the Type99A and F14A, so it would make T80BVM and MIG27 more powerful.

  • @MrPhoenixWT
    @MrPhoenixWT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This tank MUST be nerfed with the armour ASAP.

  • @pusheenthecat9264
    @pusheenthecat9264 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OddBawZ is good because he knows about proper placement
    A tank in the right place at the right time is very deadly.

  • @TophatnTea
    @TophatnTea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching top tier gameplay of WT (particular on smaller maps) really just further kills my enthusiasm for the game... Did ANYONE who played against Odd have fun? Not likely...

  • @jbperrinnl
    @jbperrinnl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I strongly suspect the mobility should not be so high with the additional hanging side armor. But of course, that's nearly impossible to prove.

    • @notnurfcreanga
      @notnurfcreanga 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      most russian sources use false/boosted information for the sake of propaganda, gaijin knows this and uses it as a scape goat to blame all criticism when people confront them about the russian tanks being op, they know what they're doing, they're conscious about it, they just hope we don't get fed up

  • @wtechboy18
    @wtechboy18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ERA armor also provides effective disruption of tungsten penetrator rounds, not just shaped-charge rounds. But those two things are about the only thing they're designed for - shaped charge explosives and tungsten penetrator darts. The long skinny penetrator can be sheared in multiple places by the ERA which reduces the effective penetration depth accordingly.

  • @StormArmy96
    @StormArmy96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imagine being able to watch russian bias unfold in front of you. 4:43

  • @jackmears8017
    @jackmears8017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was in a leopard 2A6 and I hit a slide shot on one at like 10m and it bounced like I wanna know what Gaijin put in his bags

  • @csorbalaszlo1920
    @csorbalaszlo1920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both M829A2 and DM53 has anti ERA tip what is not modelled in-game
    Kinda strange

    • @tyrbaan7295
      @tyrbaan7295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Only Russian tanks may be modelled "Accurately".

  • @ralffsmith2655
    @ralffsmith2655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wait tell Gaigin puts the T80's nemesis into the game...a bunch of farmers on a john deer tractor 😉

  • @AllinWhenPlaying
    @AllinWhenPlaying ปีที่แล้ว

    It's incredible how naturally and non-effort funny you are. Like Phly in the old days ;)

  • @Armgoth
    @Armgoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 5:51 look at the shrapnel breaking that track LOL

  • @BitchenMarsRockstar
    @BitchenMarsRockstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No, ERA should have almost no effect on kinetic rounds, especially modern western APFSDS which are designed with ERA covered Soviet tanks in mind, but for top tier Gaijin just makes everything up anyway so whatever I guess.

    • @288gto7
      @288gto7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wrong. Yes bag era only works against chemical rounds but the actual relikt bricks degrade the penetrator quite a bit. The "new western sabot" you are referring to is m829a3 with a sacrifical steel tip that negates kontakt 5 not relikt. Also dm53 with its special tip that bypasses the era without exploding it which also works against k5 not relikt. In war thunder even k1 that doesnt even work against kinetic rounds sometimes just eats up a dm53 somehow....... in wt dm53 also doesnt have that special tip also quite wrong penetration values for 53

    • @EliteNoob22
      @EliteNoob22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And what do you base your claims on?

  • @Collat3ralD4mage
    @Collat3ralD4mage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After I grinded the German tank tech tree and got to top tier I quickly realized that I should have grinded the Russian tech tree. I think gaijin knows about the Russian bias problem but they refuse to fix it because they are f*cking biased.

    • @tyrbaan7295
      @tyrbaan7295 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're Russian and like Russian vehicles. They simply don't care about anything/anyone else.

    • @LN_997
      @LN_997 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm around 7.0 on the German Tech Tree now and am coming to that realisation, but I don't want to give in and buy the TURMS or 2S38

  • @MrSv7dzg
    @MrSv7dzg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last time I played the BVM I was getting bullied by the Swedish Leo

  • @josephuschrisb.parages4827
    @josephuschrisb.parages4827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odd reached level 100 without playing the tutorial for naval

  • @USN1985dos
    @USN1985dos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The bags aren't actually empty IRL. They're filled with a form of disruptive material against EFP weapons. You can see video of Ukrainian AT4's, Matadors, and NLAWs impacting on the sides with no effect.

    • @pinkyfull
      @pinkyfull 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There were some units, particularly around kyiv, who were either not installing the era, or selling it due to the systematic corruption in the Russian army. They should be filled, but there are some instances of it not happening, as evidenced by a shed load of videos of captured t72 and t80's by Ukraine.

    • @USN1985dos
      @USN1985dos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pinkyfull I guess they paid for it with their lives. Now that the full extent of the threat is realized, I doubt there are many empty ERA bags on the tanks that have them.

  • @bb-152ussmeta9
    @bb-152ussmeta9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 1:00
    The ERA on the side of the BVM actually does have equivalent of 200mm of kinetic protection, because you only really hover your mouse over the first layer. The second layer is behind the first and looks more like the CONTACT-5 package on the 80U, so you have to actually find it behind the first layer to see it.
    The best way to see it is if you go into the Protection Analysis and hover your mouse over where the ERA is on the side of the hull, it offers far more protection than the base side of the tank.

  • @M3dicayne
    @M3dicayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This tank in game: Unstoppable iron curtain.
    This tank irl: Rusty coffin with cardboard protection and a turret that likes to play rocket.
    And I am happy that Russia lives in constant fear of Western ATGM.

    • @geniusderweise400
      @geniusderweise400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      dont know if this is supposed to be sarcasm but if not you need a reality check that doesnt come directly from Ukraine and the claim about cardboard protection has been disproven many many times

    • @M3dicayne
      @M3dicayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@geniusderweise400 No sarcasm involved here ;) And I rely on sources from neither involved parties.
      Russia has this protection but only a few tanks have ever been fitted with it and even fewer work as intended and a lot have already been destroyed. Also this kind of protection doesn't work against top down ATGMs.

  • @yukko_yoshida
    @yukko_yoshida ปีที่แล้ว

    "if you arent going to push dont take a corner"
    my good sir what the fuck else am i going to do?

  • @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior
    @TheeActualKeyboardWarrior 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd get more shrap with a stock tier 1 French apcr round than an apfsds shell when shooting at a T anything.

    • @Modeus_
      @Modeus_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Early T tanks can actually spall up until the T-72

  • @KittehONaLeash
    @KittehONaLeash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it should work on older APFSDS but newer APFSDS were made with defeating ERA in mind. Sanything like M829A1/DM23 and newer were made in mind help pen any added armor thickness ERA might do to the APFSDS. But thats if the ERA even goes off in the first place. The newer rounds like DM43/53 or M829a2/3/4 are made to negate any effect ERA has on the rounds to begin with. SO no they should not work anywhere as good as they do in game.

  • @Tujosax
    @Tujosax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should model the bomb they put in the hull. You can pop a turret off and shoot anyone in the top hatches out. Russian tank, ejection seat.

  • @legotechnictrains8999
    @legotechnictrains8999 ปีที่แล้ว

    *must be nice not having to worry about soldiers with javelins*

  • @nazargalak460
    @nazargalak460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this tank looks cool!

  • @MrCrazybadbastard
    @MrCrazybadbastard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The driver also work as a 600mm meatshield to protect the ammo from frontal penetrations 🤪

  • @fairguinevere666
    @fairguinevere666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure if they simulate the composition of APFSDS rounds, but the abrams should have a bit of an edge over some other modern ones as they can use DU which is renowned for its ability to shrapnel and fuck people up.

    • @destroyerarmor2846
      @destroyerarmor2846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

    • @CombatArchive_1
      @CombatArchive_1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abrams isn't as good as u think irl. they get a good rep because they fight farmers and toyotas with mounted machine guns

  • @Ingris1441
    @Ingris1441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the Abrams albeit thin but extremely angled upper plate which is at 80 degrees. Shouldnt Sabot rounds just shatter or ricochet off that? Even the main armor plate of the hull of the Abram variants just seem to be auto penned by everything, but not that I know the real classified effectiveness of that armor.

  • @minidingbat265
    @minidingbat265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only have Italy and British top tier stuff and I don't really struggle against any top tier Russian tank ( they don't seem bad I just find them easy to kill) . The tanks I seem to struggle with the most are Swedish and German. And the easiest I find to fight is Chinese tanks .

    • @emulation2369
      @emulation2369 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you should cry about russian bias!

    • @minidingbat265
      @minidingbat265 ปีที่แล้ว

      @emulation2369 you respond to a year old comment

  • @Zbr0chU2
    @Zbr0chU2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Its really unfair because the T-80 BVM is a modern tank and US has only the m1a2 to deal with this crap they should add the SEP variants to the game and then it would be fun if you know what I mean 😉

    • @moparman1692
      @moparman1692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The t80 in all its variants would be cannon fodder agains any modern western MBT including the M1A2, but hey.. this is a russian game so why not rewrite reality as well as history..

    • @alex-ragnarson3482
      @alex-ragnarson3482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@moparman1692 Russia love Propaganda, even in a fucking video game

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moparman1692 Not really, the m1a2 in the game is the1986 variant, which would struggle to pen the kontakt-5 and the frontal armor of Russian tanks with m829a2. It would need a3 rounds to better penetrate the front of the tanks.

    • @ludio5447
      @ludio5447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@moparman1692 lol, did i just read an american propaganda?

    • @mobius_1163
      @mobius_1163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moparman1692 not really dude, M1A2 is really lacking in terms of firepower and armor. Aside from the turret cheeks, it's really easy to kill an Abrams from the front. As the OP said, gajin needs to add the SEP variants

  • @user-yt7uq9wb5n
    @user-yt7uq9wb5n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have started to play War Thunder 2 months ago and after watching dozens of videos from various channels, you were the one who convinced me to play this game and to also play Russia. Keep up the good content.

    • @Pickles6988
      @Pickles6988 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m researching t-90a

  • @kurtdanniel8541
    @kurtdanniel8541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:46 best quote

  • @jedrzejstepien1621
    @jedrzejstepien1621 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yea , they shouldn't work well against kinetic rounds , these bags are filled with something that looks a bit like egg cartoons (you can look it up on internet, there are a lot of photos of captured ones in Ukraine) they are meant to distort HEAT rounds and rockets penetrating beam

    • @tkg__
      @tkg__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The CONTACT-1 ones are chemical only, the newer RELICT and CONTACT-5 should have some protection against kinetic ammunition.

    • @godofhate4167
      @godofhate4167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those were empty. They have explosive fillants in between those egg cartons. What you saw was stripped ERA.

    • @jedrzejstepien1621
      @jedrzejstepien1621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tkg__ no ale pisze o tych dodatkowych workach na burtach czołgu nie o pancerzu ERA

  • @petermeinholz6087
    @petermeinholz6087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    my first ever game i got 6 kills stock, and never needed to repair. the bvm is a beast 💪 and the support it has from helicopters and the other tanks you can have in the lineup is quite unlike any other nation at the moment.

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh no, the US certainly has the same capabilities. Yeah, the US helicopters still underperform due to hellfires sucking in the game, but other than that the US is totally on par or better than USSR. I still far rather play Abramses than T80s. A10 can be super deadly to ground especially in late game, F14 can clean up the air space pretty effectively, you got ADATS for SPAA as well... And HSTVL is a monster if it gets to your flank.

    • @triparadox.c
      @triparadox.c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@teemuvesala9575 US top tier is way more lackluster compared to Russia. You shouldn't even expect an A10 on top tier. It will instantly get downed by SAM. Russia has 2S6 which is a better AA than ADATS, while also being recognized as an AA, therefore lower SP cost. Russian tanks are also very capable. Let's not pretend as if Russia is tailing behind. They have among the best armor, low profile tank, and overall best thermal optics (having multiple gen 3 thermal). The Winrate for BVM players clearly shows how easy it is to win using top tier Russia line up. This is not even including helicopters. As for HSTV, let's not forget BMP 2M which performs very competitively even at 11.0 but rated at 9.3.

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@triparadox.c That's not really true at all. The new Bradley's TOW's are very deadly vs Russian tanks who try hide behind terrain with their low profile, you shoot just above their roof and they die. ADATS is better than Tunguska because its missiles have 800mm of penetration, allowing it to reliably kill basically any tank it faces it frontally as well if you know where to aim... As pure AA vs air targets Tunguska may be better, but it cannot function nearly as well as tank destroyer as ADATS can. BMP2M is good yes, but so is HSTVL. Abramses are very good across the broad. I don't see US lacking anywhere except maybe helis since Hellfires perform poorly in WT.

    • @TheTeehee11111
      @TheTeehee11111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teemuvesala9575 You're clearly a russian main

    • @teemuvesala9575
      @teemuvesala9575 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTeehee11111 I play US and USSR mostly. US feels lot easier to me, but US players are often just worse. I do lot better on average in US tanks, but I win more on average with USSR. I’ve narrowed it down it just has to be US players are on average worse.

  • @TheZdrack
    @TheZdrack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In game russian ammo feels completely inert when hit.
    Real life the only time the ammo doesn't do its best impression of a space program is when there is no ammo

  • @ThatGuyOrby
    @ThatGuyOrby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How this tank can be allowed while the most modern M1s still don't have their improved armor packages is beyond me...