Psychology Of The Mandala & The Unfolding Self | Philosophy | Carl Jung // Alan Watts

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  • @ThoughtsonThinking
    @ThoughtsonThinking  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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  • @viveksomakumar1004
    @viveksomakumar1004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mandalas have always captured my attention for how intricate each of it's layers are, just like a human being, with most of them starting out from an empty, blank, white or black core, reminding me that the meaning of our life is what we make of it throughout our journey. Great video as always!

  • @cosmiccomedy7394
    @cosmiccomedy7394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    After my first mushroom experience I started drawing everyday and at first they were just doodles but eventually they became very intricate designs that were usually the shape of a circle. It wasn't until months later when I got into Jung that I realized how profound they can be and it blew me away that I was doing a step in Jung's individuation process without even knowing it. I took that sychronistic event as advice that I should follow my intuition more and its been leading me to a much better place so far. Cheers

    • @oyshalt
      @oyshalt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love your comment. The shrooms got me into Jüng, and I totally relate with what you are saying about synchronicity and intuition. Hope induviduation is going well, cheers!

    • @devvildogg1775
      @devvildogg1775 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you flip the double helix strand of DNA so you peer down it’s axis, it appears as a mandala like structure. And In the ancient Sanskrit language of Hinduism and Buddhism, mandala means “circle.” Traditionally, a mandala is a geometric design or pattern that represents the cosmos or deities in various heavenly worlds. “It's all about finding peace in the symmetry of the design and of the universe,” says artist Saudamini Madra. We are the universe.

  • @pbeapbea5206
    @pbeapbea5206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So true about the procrastinations pulling one away from true self. Thank you so much for providing such insightful content.

  • @gracefitzgerald2227
    @gracefitzgerald2227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is so weird. I heard Uberboyo talking about mandalas and I know a physicist who uses the coloring books. I purchased one and some markers, and yesterday I got started. It took me hours to finish one and I was instantly transported back to when I was a child and drawing and coloring was the only thing that could shut off my ADD head. Trippy.

    • @walteredstates
      @walteredstates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ... just habitually reading the comments... and as a visual artist feeling compelled to respond: YOU, unknown internet friend, have just found(or have allowed your inner being to show/remind you) your way of centering yourself, and getting yourself into the flow state , i.e. a form of mindfulness meditation.
      Take it and go with it!
      It'll keep making you feel good.
      And thereby( >positive bio feedback) it'll keep making your life better over time.
      Blessings, and enjoy! : )

    • @gracefitzgerald2227
      @gracefitzgerald2227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@walteredstates I appreciate the response. I love flow states, and quirky coincidences. I will continue my quest for knowledge and hopefully bridge the gap between left and right brain. I’m sure as a visual artist you are lucky to have all pistons firing. Thank you again, and have a very nice weekend.❤️

  • @who_we_are______5926
    @who_we_are______5926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Manufactured procrastinations make it very hard to come back into feeling the true self especially when everyone else does the same. It takes discipline to recognize when I am about to engage in a MP activity. I noticed they take many forms, eating, watching shit on tv, watching shit on my smartphone. It's easy to immerse the senses into these external things because when I don't and I remain in presence I become overwhelmed by feelings of nihilism. Not all the time, most of the time I can achieve peace while present, but maybe that's why there are manufactured procrastinations in the first place? To distract from looming feelings of our own mortality. What do you think? @thoughtsonthinking

    • @8maxthemax8
      @8maxthemax8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Manufactured procrastination is an insidious form of self-sabotage. I think we rationalize it when what we actually need is “deep rest”. I call deep rest simply relaxing, free of distraction, just like meditation, napping or actually sleeping. Instead, what we do is engage in mindless entertainment, social media, replying to TH-cam comments, video games, google searched... These don’t constitute rest as they keep us stimulated, although in vain.

  • @colincurbishley6050
    @colincurbishley6050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice delivery and great subject matter...from one who found himself ordained as a Tibetan Buddhist monk for 8 years and was privileged to be involved in painted the Thanka / Mandalas for the Monastery.
    Thanks for reminding me of the power in a seemingly simple circle..🙏

  • @redsparks2025
    @redsparks2025 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant. The best holiday that one can take is one away from oneself.

  • @d_lars
    @d_lars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    always spot on with the topics

    • @gen-x-zeke8446
      @gen-x-zeke8446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me? Yeah, I'm alright. A bit cocky, but I can never spell 'intelligence' unless I look it up. And I love spelling. That and 'counseling' without looking it up. I mean, I have improved, but every time I reach these words I cease my progress and wander off to the dictionary. Therefore cracking the window of thought. Fk! *You ever get that?

    • @qodaeus
      @qodaeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gen-x-zeke8446 Try to learn as many synonyms of words as possible. For example; To think->ruminate->cogitate->meditate... To hate->scorn->loathe->abhor... etc.
      When you encounter a new word, read it mindfully then write it down along with words that are close to it, and then use it in a sentence of your own. This way, when you're writing or explaining something, that new word will have a much higher chance of being magnetic. It worked for me, so I am very much curious if it works for you.

    • @gen-x-zeke8446
      @gen-x-zeke8446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@qodaeus I used to have a thesaurus by my side and I would always substitute words. In my writing class this semester, I learned a lot of simplicity in my writings. I feel like it depends on the mood of the piece, you know? If it's something scary I am surely going to make it as graphic and powerful as I feel like...yet with pinches of human's 'Being' as in it makes one almost root for the bad guy due to where he came from. It's very difficult to pull off but my serial killer character; Andrew J. Faulkner has me going in several directions because to be simple; "He's trying to change", but the primitive beast inside is too powerful.
      I appreciate your pointers (there is always something to add to the writer's busy mind).
      There is always a story to tell within the story you're telling because after all; the killer is truly the killer in my primitive brain just like everyone else. Humans come from the "Kill or are Killed" worlds and to this day we see this action all around in society and nobody ever mentions that: "To the man inside the beast, is the beast in the man"

    • @qodaeus
      @qodaeus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      :)

  • @souljacem
    @souljacem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, that was a great video...
    Really thought and emotion provoking. You‘re doing very meaningful work and have made me aware of something important.
    Keep doing this.
    Have a lovely weekend too.

  • @2012MariCarmen
    @2012MariCarmen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Life has always seemed to me like a plant that lives on its rhizome. Its true life is invisible, hidden in the rhizome. The part that appears above ground lasts only a single summer. Then it withers away - an ephemeral apparition. When we think of the unending growth and decay of life and civilizations, we cannot escape the impression of absolute nullity. Yet I have never lost a sense of something that lives and endures underneath the eternal flux. What we see is the blossom, which passes. The rhizome remains." - C. Jung (Memories, Dreams, Reflections)

    • @soumillll
      @soumillll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does rhizome refers to? Roots?deep core? Can you elobrate..

    • @2012MariCarmen
      @2012MariCarmen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@soumillll I think rhizome refers to the underlying unified reality from which everything emerges. Jung called this hidden reality : Unus Mundus (One world). The one world, within which matter & psyche are not yet discriminated or separately actualized. Jung was convinced that what he calls the unconscious somehow links up with the structure of inorganic matter.
      C. Jung worked in collaboration with the Physicist Wolfgang Paul; they delved into what Jung called "the no-man's land between Physics & the Psychology of the unconscious", into the deep connection between our minds (Psyche) and the fundamental make up of the universe (Matter), between Analytical Psychology and Natural Science.
      The last part of the book "Man & His Symbols", by the title: Conclusion: Science and the Unconscious, talks about this subject. Also the book "137 Jung, Pauli, and the Pursuit of a Scientific Obsession" by Arthur I. Miller and "Psyche & Matter" by Marie-Louise Von Franz
      Think about the natural numbers...numbers are not concepts consciously invented by men for the purposes of calculation, they are spontaneous and autonomous products of the unconscious (as other archetypal symbols). Numbers thus appear to be a tangible connection between the spheres of matter & psyche.
      Everything men has discovered already existed (in potential). And we can discover it because our unconscious (psyche) and the outer world (matter) are, in a deeper level, one.
      "Nothing exist without an observer"

    • @2012MariCarmen
      @2012MariCarmen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * Physicist Wolfgang Pauli

    • @soumillll
      @soumillll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2012MariCarmen thanks bruh, it was great and deep indeed, much love ❤️❤️👍

    • @katrinacerise6221
      @katrinacerise6221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@2012MariCarmen These are very good thoughts that I would like to deepen. Do you have any more book recommendations? If you send me a friend request on Facebook, we could "get to know" each other. I am Kasha Bodhi, but i am not very often in internet. Love and Peace

  • @okay5573
    @okay5573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most sufficient reapplication of analytical psychology to our current times. Doesn't try to adapt it to urbanity, but encourages a thought. And the thought is 'should i?' The most natural release of the supraordinate I've felt in a while

  • @yoyo-hf1jn
    @yoyo-hf1jn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    広大な砂漠ですね。
    その他の景色も最高です。
    一度は行ってみたいな。

  • @SomosLaNuevaEra
    @SomosLaNuevaEra 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smile on your face and in your mind‚ positive energy will come to you to help dispel negative things ❤️

  • @BrotherTree1
    @BrotherTree1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's quite fascinating. For me, for as long as I can remember, since maybe when I was a child... whenever I'm in the dark or focusing on staring at something for too long, or especially if I close my eyes whilst I'm still awake... I do see something resembling a Mandala, but it looks more like a wall of eyes that continually move closer and closer to me and then eventually expand to my entire field of field until it dissipates. Then the process repeats itself again. It starts off small and then it expands, and in the middle of the wall of eyes, there's one big eye. Some cynics can easily write it off as illusions/delusions from a lot of sunlight exposure... but for me, it's remarkable. It still remains a mystery to me in what it could mean. But perhaps this video may help direct me in figuring it out in a way that enriches my life and the lives of others.

  • @floratan5520
    @floratan5520 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sone time ago I smoked weed. I was alone, it was 5am, my eyes and mind were tired as hell. As I looked through some pictures in my gallery. I stopped at a photo that was me. Then, I suddenly realized, that the structure of the picture was changing on the screen. And I looked down, and through the corner of my eyes, I saw a geometrical perfect, really complex, small and yellow mandala shining on the surface of the
    phone.....Now, my vision was already blurred by the tiredness of my eyes, as well as the slight psychedelic effect of the weed. But what I saw was so accurate, that I can still recall the impression that it gave me.nNow, as I tried to look directly at the mandala, it disappeared from my eyes, but when I looked at it from the corner of my eyes it was there. But weirdly nowhere else then on the screen of my phone. After that I went to bed terrified and shoked. The days after, I looked at images or articles which could represent or confirm what I saw, but it seems to me that it was a very unique abstract experience. But I would LOVE to hear someone telling me they saw something similar... or maybe explain the meaning behind it... I feel like there is something I´m supposed to understand, a hint or something but I don't really get it

  • @orpheusmorphius2624
    @orpheusmorphius2624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this!!

  • @cresenciohernandez8310
    @cresenciohernandez8310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A picture is a word so a thought must be a picture that stems from feeling part of a core. Part of All.

  • @georgepeterson3440
    @georgepeterson3440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very thought provoking. Love it

  • @twx0066
    @twx0066 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @01k
    @01k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for sharing

  • @cryptoartist5167
    @cryptoartist5167 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you write this?? Was some of this from Jung? Fantastic work, thanks brother!

  • @viktoriaregis6645
    @viktoriaregis6645 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very insightful.

  • @1959400
    @1959400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lyrical, Poetic

  • @jordanedgeley6601
    @jordanedgeley6601 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video

  • @gen-x-zeke8446
    @gen-x-zeke8446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel like we are the product purely of the past and that there is never a now because once the hand strikes 12, it doesn't actively Stop to be 12, it passes by and 12 becomes the past. My equation is this: [-1y + 1x= 0e ], so the 'Now' is the illusion and so, therefore, the Self is only experienced as the past, or it cannot be an experience. Unless of course by simple planning, we are experiencing some future?? So, we aren't a 'Now' or a 'Self'. Close, but not quite. The illusion is that because if anything, we are just micro-cells inside a massive program, inside a massive universe-that we can also hold in our hand as a single drop of rain. [ -1y + 1x= 0e ]. *y as in 'year' of past; x as in 'passage' portals, continuations, and 0e I feel would stand for eternal. So, "Year+Passage+Continuation= 'Eternal' OR perhaps 'Energy'? **Please elaborate, if you would**

    • @soumillll
      @soumillll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was deep and interesting...

    • @gen-x-zeke8446
      @gen-x-zeke8446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@soumillll I have seen the -1 + 1=0 somewhere else recently on a TH-cam video about Fractals (Mandelbrot), though I have been holding on to that "basic equation" since 2007 when describing opposite lover; one is the negative one, one is the positive one and together they are nothing at all. So, I'm not sure about letters because I am not a physicist by any means. I love philosophy from a variety of "Selves", and it is well-earned wisdom because after all; I am not studying to 'know' more, I am studying to Know Less. I don't want Self, that is dangerous because after searching for years and decades, I would say that it doesn't fkn want to be possessed. I'm not slamming "suiciders" because I have been down that word. "I never wanted to live so bad until the day I was ready to die"- That's mine as far as I realize. I do not "Want" to "Know". You know? lol

  • @franciscobenedict007
    @franciscobenedict007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @andrewclemons8619
    @andrewclemons8619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Losing your Facebook page is a good start folks

  • @annikalohrke8043
    @annikalohrke8043 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wowzerz

  • @eriklikaj8321
    @eriklikaj8321 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ....procrastination...to even bary those important revraled in the desert....more preciasly for that energy..to transform in

  • @TheSharperSword
    @TheSharperSword 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The shifting sands are there to make you seek the Rock that was laid before the foundation of the world.

  • @davidbates9358
    @davidbates9358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why choose the desert to "symbolize" The Unfolding Self? Is it because human experience in deserts produces the optical illusions we name "mirage?" Which is defined as, 1. an illusion sometimes seen at sea, in the desert, or over hot pavement that looks like a pool of water or a mirror in which distant objects are seen inverted 2. something illusory and unattainable like a mirage. Do such phenomenological experiences reflect the "mirror" like nature of that foundational sense of our everyday mind, "memory?" Is our normal perception of reality mirage-like in the way we "project" the remembered names of objective reality onto reality, as though the name of any object we see, is the reality of that object?
    While the innate (inborn) illusion\mirage all human beings suffer from, and one that becomes most glaringly present within clear blue sky desert environments, is the optical illusion of Sun-Rise? And given that the cause of this optical illusion is now taught to grade school students as the light of day & dark of night experience produced by Earth Axis Rotation, why has there not been a paradigm shift in thinking about reality, as it really is?
    And given that no human being on the planet is born "linguistic" & 21st-century neuroscience continues to explore Sir Charles Sherington's 1951 statement "the motor act is the cradle of the mind," which all Mothers know from their "visceral" experience of the "reflexive" activity of our human nervous system, why, to paraphrase a popular song, are we still looking for our selves "out-there?" Is it because, despite our postured pretense of being a fully conscious self capable of making the right choices in life, we are driven by the hard-wired nature of "fate," that resides within the unseen reality of our mammalian nervous system?
    The perennial nature of our conscious mind's analogous sense-of-self, which now sees well-educated people suggest that we are adaptive machines might benefit from synthesizing all the neuroscience revelations of the 20th-century. revelations that confirm the unseen nature of our human self revolves around the motor-activity (for want of a better analogy) of our heart\lungs "respiratory sinus arrhythmia" action that produces a "vagal-tone," which in turn "affects" a "cerebral-tone" within our skull? Anyway, on a more poetic note, is it high time we stopped looking for our self, "out there?"
    But tell me, did you sail across the sun?
    Did you make it to the Milky Way
    To see the lights all faded
    And that heaven is overrated?
    Tell me, did you fall for a shooting star?
    One without a permanent scar
    And then you missed me
    While you were looking for yourself out there? th-cam.com/video/6jiBEztS_uY/w-d-xo.html

    • @ThoughtsonThinking
      @ThoughtsonThinking  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The unfolding self is the Mandala, the Self is the desert, the place of solitude, a place beyond thoughts, ideas, people and events, the desert of the real is what remains when you strip all of that away in my view.

    • @davidbates9358
      @davidbates9358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThoughtsonThinking Please read Carl Jung's thoughts on our need to "awaken" from our "unwitting" process of UNCONSCIOUS PROJECTIONS? "As we know, it is not the conscious subject but the unconscious which does the projecting. Hence one meets with projections, one does not make them. The effect of projection is to isolate the subject from his environment, since instead of a real relation to it there is now only an illusory one. Projections change the world into the replica of one's own unknown face. In the last analysis, therefore, they lead to an autoerotic or autistic condition in which one dreams a world whose reality remains forever unattainable.
      The resultant sentiment d'incompletude and the still worse feeling of sterility are in their turn explained by projection as the malevolence of the environment, and by means of this vicious circle the isolation is intensified. The more projections are thrust in between the subject and the environment, the harder it is for the ego to see through its illusions. A forty-five-year-old patient who had suffered from a compulsion neurosis since he was twenty and had become completely cut off from the world once said to me: "But I can never admit to myself that I've wasted the best twenty-five years of my life!"
      It is often tragic to see how blatantly a man bungles his own life and the lives of others yet remains totally incapable of seeing how much the whole tragedy originates in himself, and how he continually feeds it and keeps it going. Not consciously, of course-for consciously he is engaged in bewailing and cursing a faithless world that recedes further and further into the distance. Rather, it is an unconscious factor which spins the illusions that veil his world. And what is being spun is a cocoon, which in the end will completely envelop him." - Carl Jung, AION

  • @aferditazaza1755
    @aferditazaza1755 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    .if you.wish to be perfect..manifacted procrastination..frim themeaninless shine....

  • @dominicnabbott8951
    @dominicnabbott8951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m the 666th like, dunno if this is synchronicity since this happens all the time, same with 4:20, always looking at the clock then... seeing prices, videos.
    I think the universe is trying to tell me that I am the anti christ-ganja man

  • @cuddlessnuggles7877
    @cuddlessnuggles7877 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    youre the only reason im actually gonna get up and do my hw right now if it wasnt about mandalas i wouldve never been called a "slave" to the temptetions stfu im abt to pull an all nighter and complete this mf. stfu. i am not procrastinating anymore

  • @AndreaSzabo7171
    @AndreaSzabo7171 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🪷🔥🔥🎼💕🩷. 🕉️
    Sacred Geometry. 💕
    Magnetic sound. 🪷

  • @karnverma7610
    @karnverma7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The references to Carl Jung and Alan Watts are misleading and in very bad taste with the 'elitist' tone of the video.

  • @thedoorsbest
    @thedoorsbest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great,Jesus part was not necessary though.Neither is my comment,to be fair.