Ruger LCR Part Two: LCR vs LC9
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- Paul tests the Ruger LCP vs the Ruger LC9.
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I love how Paul doesn’t skip a beat as a drug war breaks out just thirty feet from him.
I was going to say something similar. Great content BPH!
paul scares me
Some of us train enough that gunshots don’t surprise us lol
@@carryeveryday910 settle down there, GI Joe. Pretty sure they just found it amusing, no need to go swinging your dick around lol.
5:03 yikes, any idea what kind, or at least type of gun (AR, Mini-14) is creating that wall of sound?
Paul, as a state police in Puerto Rico, I must tell you that I really enjoy your videos. The professionalism, dedication and empirical data are impressive. I know we are many who value what you do!
do they really call it "state" police there lol ?
No debe ser fácil ser un ciudadano norteamericano de segunda. Saludos desde España.
@ and tactical chancla bandoliers
@@jhanks2012
Porto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States.
That's a really good comment- Paul takes these issues very seriously.
One more reason for having a revolver instead of an autoloader. My elderly mother can no longer pull the slide back on her pistols. She lacks grip strength to pull it back to load, unload, or clear any malfunctions. She bought the LCR and been shooting it over last few months without any complaints. She loves the LCR and has said she feels more comfortable with it in her pocket or purse. Noticed a manufacturer recently released a new pistol that is "easier" to pull the slide back and they're marketing it to those with reduced grip strength & arthritis
Which LCR does your Mom own? My Mom has hand strength issues as well, but recently was able to easily pull the trigger on the 9mm LCR, and is thinking of getting it.
I know a guy who shot himself with a 1911 because he couldn't rack the slide anymore. It's the way things go unfortunately. We all get there some day.
This very reason is why my father carries a Kimber K6S in .357. He can no longer work the slide on any of our auto loaders above 380.
C Nemeth: It's not the trigger pull, it's racking the slide. Many females have trouble racking slides. I finally learned a method for doing it (basically push with my arm & body), but they are still difficult for me. With some revolvers, after shooting awhile the trigger gets hard to pull, but it's no problem to use both index fingers for that if you need to.
@@christophernemeth421 she bought the 22LR version first but then bought the 9mm after she shot her friends LCR 9mm. She likes it, can shoot it well enough for her skill level, & likes the moon clips. She did have a 38SPL years ago but never liked speed loaders.
After about the five minute mark I thought I was back in Chicago on a friday night
That just can't be: after all they have strict gun controls there. Perhaps the creeps have gotten that bit of news yet .
For me it was San Bernardino in 89'
What was that dude shooting at, a herd of yeti? Yeesh.
lmao
i thought Yosemite Sam was at the range.
Must be militia day at the range today.
It could also be a hunter practicing before going out.
@@gynocentrismergomgtow Who hunts like that? I can only see maybe a group of boar being a situation where rapid shots like that may be used.
A comedian.
Every day is militia day at the range!
If thats the case, sign me up.
Normally when Paul says please bear with gunfire you hear in the background I'm like year whatever, until he started shooting the first time this video, I think I went deaf with my headphones in lol
😂😂
I think it permanently deafened my inner child.
Paul, because of your long presentation last week I was able to have a good coherent knowledgeable conversation with a customer about 38 special +p and the LCR. I thank you VERY much.
Revolver vs auto loading pistol: my full size CZ P09 is very reliable, no malfunctions at all.
My small Ruger LCP II spent most of its life being repaired. First, live rounds were jammed into the ejection port every dozend shots, then the magazines kept falling out every couple of shots, now there's double feeds ever dozend shots and the warranty has expired. Not to mention that I cannot shoot decent groups with it and the aim is way off.
My 30+ year old all-steel Taurus .38 snub nose just works and I can hit what I'm aiming at quite well. It sometimes had light primer strikes. Turns out the previous owner shortened the hammer spring too much. Being a revolver this did not cause a jam, you just have to pull the trigger a couple more times. With a new hammer spring it now fires every time I pull the trigger.
Based on my expirience, I rather have a small revolver than a small autoloading pistol. The revolver may be thicker, heavier and have less amo capacity, but it works reliably and I can shoot it well.
How, exactly, did the warranty on your LCP 2 "expire?"
dude is the “Bob Ross” of the firearms world
actually, Bob Ross is the "Paul Harrell" of the painting world
5:41 ... when you’re such a good shooter you can just go lefty like it’s no big deal. If that were me that chronograph would be blown to pieces.
Lol
Practice! Try out some idpa matches give you a fun reason to shoot weak handed and might save your life one day
Lol. Me too I've tried shooting left at the range. I'm better now but, the first time I did it I think I hit my neighbors target. LMFAO
Shooting left handed 70% of the time for three years will do wonders for your offhand ability...
Not to mention the black boots. I'm not even sure that was Paul Harrell.
I had to put in my orange foam ear plugs.
Just finished my day of driving and happy to catch up on a couple of your videos. Been on the road for about a month and have about a month left before heading home. Will always give your videos a thumbs up, even before watching it. Have a good day
If your last presentation was your most difficult, you're doing everything right because you nailed it. Thank you.
Paul I must say, as a follower of your channel I sure do get the best of the best from your vidios. A part 2 on the LCR & crimp jump. U sure do things 110 percent. I thank u very much. These videos helped me personally.
Paul, one of your best and thorough presentations to date, thank you.
Paul, I'd love to see a presentation on .327 Federal, there's an LCR chambered in it. It's supposed to give ballistic performance in the same league as .357 Mag, while giving you 6 rounds, in what would otherwise be a 5 round revolver. I'd love to see what it actually does to a meat target, compared to .357 Magnum.
I second this request.
Oh hell yeah 3rd!
Yeah that would be a awesome review but I think Paul has put it off because of all the hype. Sometimes the reviews that reveal something isn't really quite what people think it is aren't always well received. Personally I think of the 327 Federal as a highly practical trail gun and varmint cartridge especially if you hand load semi jacketed hollow points meant for 32 S&W long or 32 H&R Magnum. But this would be a dismal review since there isn't any factory loads offered for this application that I'm aware of and most of the guns in production for 327 federal have barrels under 3 inches and guns with barrels over 3 inches in this caliber are somewhat rare oddities. As for personal protection I think it really closely mimics 9mm luger +p but with more penetration which could be interpreted as good or bad depending on intended use. 327 federal seems to actually out perform standard pressure 9mm for ballistic performance a little and that might be were federal gets off comparing it to 357 mag. As for the claims regarding comparisons to 357 Magnum I think this definitely needs to be debunked. Another issue I've had with 327 federal is almost every offering on the market is hyper ammo as Paul Harrell would call it. So it would be a expensive top dollar review.
@@riflesfirst208 show me a .38+P that will touch 1500 fps from the muzzle of a 4" gun or admit you know nothing about the 327.
Well that is one of the three constants that effect ballistics, so yeah I think it counts. You'd really impress me if you showed how all .38+P loads improved on the .327.
No flinch with any of the background firing... THUG LIFE.
lol
even i flinched a few times ;)
Constant training and two different stints in the military will do that for you.
B real- That too!
When on the range. Bear with me with the gunfire in the background...
Had to look over my shoulder with every shot in the background, thug lyfe
I get more knowledge out of your videos than I do from any other TH-cam gun channel. Thank you for the knowledge and perspective, and thank you for your service.
I love what ruger has been doing the last few years. The LC9s was a great example of the company responding to the market’s complaints, and reacting to them.
This is as balanced and comprehensive a commentary on the subject of small revolvers and small self loading pistols as anyone should need, thank you.
mr. Paul thank you for all the videos well-thought-out and very informative keep up the great work always keeping us informed whether we like it or not shoot well buddy
Wonderful video. Love the format and in depth discussion followed by real world demonstration. Your other content is great, but this is a cut above. Your team as presenters are getting better and better.
It's kinda ridiculous how excited I get when I see a new upload from you lol. Thanks for making such stellar content!
Mr. Harrell, I've now been watching your videos for a while. I really appreciate your almost scientific approach to your analogies. I love the fact that you are more about the actual data than just your "feels." Keep doing the great job that you are doing sir, your videos are very helpful and informative.
Paul glad to see you back. In my 25 years in law enforcement I have used several off duty firearms. Mostly using a Colt Officer's model in 45 of course but depending on the need I have used a Sig Stainless 380 or one of my varied models of S&W .38 J frames.
Civilians who chose to carry a semi are usually at a disadvantage as the simply do not practice, something them must do for that type of firearm. God Bless America
Dana Terlecky Practice/training is needed with ALL types of firearms. There are NO magic guns.
@@sarahwatson7692 You are so right. Funny though I have trained a number of even older people, they take one or two sessions and even when I offer my time freely for practice they seem to think one lesson enough.. The old joke when the man in NY stops and asks a policeman how to get to Carnegie Hall, the officer said "Practice my friend Practice!"
Dana Terlecky I work in retail gun sales. Every day I hear how someone knows how to shoot since they “grew up around guns” or have “been around guns all my life”. These folks have no idea what skill is. All of them feel just owning firearms and shooting 50 rounds a year makes them “skilled”.
Keep up the good work Paul! Thanks for your time/effort.
I have both for CCW use, however my LCR is in 327 Federal Magnum. The 327 is a six shot with plenty of power and the hammerless feature not only reduces snags it also allows repeated shots (all six) from inside coat pocket, (if one was forced to do so). Thanks for your videos, they are very informative and entertaining.
Paul, please keep doing what you are doing. Super appreciate all the work that goes into bringing us these entertaining informational videos. Also, don't change. Your unique style sets you apart from the rest. Thank you, again.
I don't care about LCR/LC9 I just like Paul
one of the best cc
5:10 Rock and Roll! Another great video. BTW In the 80s I purchased a Ruger Speed Six .357 Magnum revolver. I took it to the range. After the first shot it totally locked up. The problem was that the Remington ammo had a manufacture defect. A divot (with protruding boundary) at the base of the case produced a blockage of the revolving action. A lesson that any firearm's functioning is dependent upon the ammo used.
Revolvers are more likely to function properly after sitting in a drawer for a long time, and they don't require as much hand strength to load or chamber a round.
I agree. My wife won't shoot an auto loader because she's scared it will go off chambering a round. Yes her problem yet a problem so she likes revolvers
It can be very difficult for us ladies to safely rack the slide.
They require twice the hand strength to pull the trigger.
Guns like the 380ez fix that.
I know at least two people who cannot rack a slide but have no problem firing a DAO revolver.
@@Bob5mith And my aunt can rack a pistol slide fine but couldn't pull the DA trigger on a newer Smith 686. A revolver is not automatically the better weak grip/arthritis option, different pistols require different amounts of force, whereas most revolvers are 10+ lbs on the low end for trigger pull. The 380EZ as previously mentioned can be racked with a pinky and has both an optional manual thumb safety and a grip safety, I think that's a great combo for a new shooter/conceal carrier that lacks grip strength and wants an extra safe gun if revolvers have too heavy a trigger. There is no absolute "ideal" option, defaulting to the normal choice doesn't work great for everyone.
Awesome episode and thanks for the knowledge Paul. I carry my Dads LCR 38 special for an backup gun. I love the trigger on it and i would trust it with my life.
For me I just love how simple and comfortable the LCR is to carry around and use. I also feel very safe with it in my pocket where I would definitely need a holster for an auto.
I’m confused by your comment. I carry many LCR sized autos in my front pocket. I have a s&w 638, a 642 in 22 wmr, yes, both revolvers, but also carry a Springfield armory in 380, a Kimber micro 9 in 9 mm, a Beretta Tomcat in 32 auto, a 22 lr pistol, sorry, can’t thing of the brand, but i have even pocket carried my s&w shield’s in both 9 mm & 45 acp and even my Glock 32 in 357 sig and my Taurus G2 & G3 with the 15 round magazine. I mostly wear cargo pants and shorts, but when necessary i wear a suit. If you have a good pocket holster you can carry every one of these guns i have mentioned in your front pocket. Matter of fact, i use the same holster to carry every one of the the guns in my front pocket. Since i started pocket carrying about 5 years ago it eliminated my need to wear a waist holster 90 to 95 % off the time.
The only addendum to your list of reasons for carrying a revolver as opposed to an autoloader: My mother has severe arthritis, specifically in the thumbs. This makes racking the action of anything more than a .22lr nearly impossible (just unable to place sufficient thumb pressure to hold the slide, even when using multiple grip techniques).
Admittedly, this is a fairly specialized situation.
She sends her thanks for several of your videos, that more concisely and reasonably explain concepts that I was having difficulty conveying to her.
Thanks from me, too! Good Luck and keep up the great videos!
Absolutely. Some people, especially women, have great difficulty racking a slide. I can do it, but it's not easy, and that took lots of practice and using a different racking technique.
"Bearing with gunfire" was really tough in this one. Paul, you're still the best, though, and thanks for another great video.
Appreciate your in depth analysis videos that address all these various assumptions and data that helps people make better decisions and know their firearm.
I’m addicted to this channel.
Please keep up the great instructions. You are among the best on. Brian.
Paul: With respect to capacity I ran out of ammo, after reloading my department issued six shot Colt Det. Spl. (total of 12 rounds) in the midst of a gunfight in 1974, and had to end the fight w/a blackjack. I was never without a sufficient supply of ammo again and was glad for the change to the auto loader later in my career.
Oh hell! 'Blackjack' isn't PC anymore! They're called 'non-discriminating ass whoopers' now. ;-]
What's a black jack
It's a whoop-ass stick
Thank you
@@mallard_duck458 It's also called a sap.
Another great vid Paul. You never fail to teach and entertain. Thanks a bunch!
I don't own either of these and don't have any plans to, but I watch your videos because they are always informative and entertaining.
Thank you Paul forewarning us about the background noise, you my man are a wonderful teacher.
Sounded like the first day of buck season around here a few minutes in lol. Very well presented as usual Paul.
Great professionalism Paul! I think this is my favorite video. I do wish I could hear because this is my dilemma I love the LCR and single stack 9's.
Paul, thank you for showing the accuracy of the crimp jump.
:D
Another interesting review from Paul Harrell, why I like his vids...
....they are demonstrated properly, with facts & math to support results.
Paul - One element of this outstanding video discussed revolvers versus autoloaders (in general). Well I’m 72, but I am NOT the older guy you described who distrusts contemporary, top quality semiautomatics (although I continue to enjoy and to have great confidence in my revolvers, as well). I mention this only because I’ll soon add one more reason to opt for an excellent revolver and I don’t want anyone who reads this to believe it’s because I’m anti-autoloader.
The “pro revolver” reason you didn’t mention is NEGLECT. It’s axiomatic that no one should own a firearm and not practice with it, not thoroughly understand how it operates, not appreciate how to use it safely, and not maintain it. With this said, however, many people purchase a handgun for home protection and almost never practice with it or properly maintain it. Of course, this is wrong, but it is also common. All things being equal, the Model 10 Smith that has sat unattended in the nightstand for fifteen or twenty-five years is, in my opinion, a good deal more likely to fire six rounds than (for example) is the Browning Hi Power that has been treated with equal negligence (magazine springs, dead dry rails, and so forth).
What your wrote it true, but also human skills degrade even more quickly than mechanical things. This makes revolvers even more suitable for people who would neglect a firearm for many years.
Right. By then they would have forgotten how to operate the autoloader!
I think Craig Benz is referring to accuracy, shot placement ,muscle memory, house clearance tactics etc, etc ....the type of skills that can fade/degrade with time....even manual dexterity can fade with time so you might not forget how to use the weapon but. be unable to use it effectively where as a point & shoot revolver will reduce some of the problems that occur with time/neglect.
I inherited a 38 S&W revolver from my uncle. (Historical note - the 38 Special is a "magnum" round. Yes. Really.) It was so gunked up that the cylinder was fairly badly out of time. But, although enough lead came out the side to be annoying, it still shot.
I personally don't have a strong opinion. I have a strong affection for the 1911 because I was four years into my Coast Guard career before I even managed to learn to shoot it.
Oh and before I forget, happy 200,000! I was clicking that frequently asked questions video my email warned me about but you guys took it down. Looking forward to watching it later.
Here's to another 200,000!
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I like as Paul mantain the voice pitch during the shooting at the background and keep the video rolling :) lol I enjoy a lot the way he deliveries and scripts the videos, makes easier to absorb the information. Great channel!
Lol all that shooting when Paul started the chronograph test had me cracking up
lol
It does you great credit to be able to present the pros as cons without injecting opinion into it. What I see is a presentation by someone who tries hard to be fair and present all the arguments as best as he is able. That is greatly appreciated.
Stay on the safe side and carry both the LCP and the LC9. Had to stop the video and go get my ear protection on. Thanks Paul
It's been thirty years since I was ten too! 😁 I like this LC9 so much I take it everywhere. I've done the five shot hammerless revolver thing and the LC9 blows it away!!
Best pocket gun ever!!! Thank You for the well done videos Sir!!!
Congrats on the 200,000 scribes
T. Ship Too bad he's a racist
tseawell90 lmao...and?
@@tseawell90 evidence? I didn't think so.
@@tseawell90 GO TO HELL.
It's a joke everyone please clam down
Yep - definite gunfire in the background :) Thanks Paul. I appreciate the extra attention given to this pistol :)
ROTFLOL @ 5:05 Paul continues on uneffected by the range war going on 100 feet away. I had to replay it to figure out what Paul was saying not because of the noise, but because I was laughing so hard I was in stitches! Still laughing...
Said this on another vid, Paul (and Roy), it's great to go back and watch your various vids, useful too, but it feels weird at the same time. I guess we assumed you were going to push through stick around for much longer.
Two episodes? My PH balance has been restored.
Very happy Paul answered my question about 9x18 and 9x17 in the LCR. Thanks!
But solving the problem with 17 instead of 15 happened all the time in video games.
It's quite interesting, real people enter a simulation of actions that happen rarely in real life with little data, and perform those actions every thirty seconds comparing scores and data constantly. Only real issues are in the nature of reality, people react to pain, and everyone has last stand perk.
Ahh that imaginary, wonderful world where you know before the fight begins exactly how many rounds to what part of the body will disable your adversary.
@@BurgleArsonLarceny Explain "Last stand" perk.
I don't play call of battlefield XD
@@moritamikamikara3879 in those games with the perk if shot you fall over but can still shoot back with your pistol, many times people will do this, that's why police appear to over shoot. Just because you were shot and in pain doesnt mean you cant shoot back. Bad joke I guess
@@BurgleArsonLarceny I see
An anecdote on why one would choose the LCR over the LCP. My dad recently passed away a couple of months. My dad gave my mom an original model LC9 before he died. She’s 60 and has Multiple Sclerosis, causing neurological damage and grip strength issues. She can’t work the slide on the LC9, it’s way too small and stiff. It’s much easier for her to work the cylinder release and reload the LCR. Also with the Phlster Enigma system it’s very easy for her to conceal carry very comfortably when she goes on her walks around the park.
Useful information. Haven't heard of Phlster Enigma before.
I do have the LCR in 22, but not yet in 9. I wonder if the LCR in 9 has more "kick" to it than the equivalent in semi-auto, such as this LC9 or the Max 9?
That's a lot of gunfire in the background this time..
Another awesome video Paul, Thank you. And here's to the next 200,000 subscribers.
You made a video about the .32 caliber, mainly talking about older .32 pistols. Kel-tec makes a P-32 pistol which is considered pretty highly for a budget, concealable .32, Love to hear your opinion on it.
32 does not usually have acceptable penetration. It was considered weak before the second world war.
Douchecanoe Mo I have one. It carries in my pocket better than an lcp. And I run extreme cavitator Ammo in it which I think gives it good firepower.
I carry an older 3032 at times that requires lower pressure ammunition. I carry it at times and not to sound cliche, it's all about shot placement
Also a test of .32 H&R mag and .327 Fed Vs .38 Spl would be nice
The 327 would be great to see a video on, delivering so much force in such a small package.
I absolutely love your videos. Thanks for what you do.
I've only been shooting for 39 years, have I had a malfunction with a semi auto? Yes multiple. Have I had a malfunction with a revolver? Never
Tac I used to carry my NAA .22 Mag revolver without a holster and pocket lint actually jammed it. So although it’s tiny, I’ve actually witnessed a revolver failing. I’ve never had that problem again since I’ve bought a pocket holster.
I’ve seen two revolver malfunctions. The hand that turns the cylinder broke on my mom’s s&w 638, and a primer backed out and jammed an old .357 I had.
Seen plenty of semi autos jam too.
I have seen far more "user caused" malfunctions with semi-autos as compared to revolvers. I've seen mechanical malfunctions with both. The revolver malfunctions took the firearm completely out of service. The semi-autos simply needed the improperly fed cartridge removed and the firearm reloaded. In my experience, the revolver malfunctions have been more catastrophic in nature.
I've had enough to even things out.
I've had plenty of malfunctions with revolvers. Pull the trigger and the cylinder and hammer lock midway into place. I've had struggles closing and opening the cylinder. These were new Smith and Wesson's and new Rugers. Maybe they don't make them like they used to 40 years ago.
I always enjoy the understated humor in your videos.
Autoloader is faster to reload, however, if you were on your last round in the LC9, you would have to load mag, then rack the slide to put one in the chamber which would be a little slower.
Love your videos Paul!
You don't have to rack the slide, just disengage the slide lock. Add a 1/4 second to the time if necessary. Also, if you keep track of the rounds you've fired you can reload with the last round in the chamber. Of course, in an actual life or death situation it's pretty difficult to count your shots...
I carry a revolver, btw. A Ruger LCR in .357, because slower reload is not my concern.
Awesome video!. No less than can be expected.👍👍 Thabks Paul.
5:04 -5:23 WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!! I think the guy shooting in the back solved the problem with his 30th shoot
This is outstanding content, keep of the good work Paul!
The newer LC9S trigger is really pretty good out of the box. At least the LC9S Pro is.
I think he meant the trigger of the LC9S vs the LC9S Pro.
I have a LC9s (not the pro) and think the trigger is perfect
I love everything about my LC9S Pro. It's my conceal carry.
@Andrew Sigh... I take it you are new to YT comments? You replied to bootfan, who replied to Dsdcain stating the trigger of the LC9s and LC9s Pro were the same. I was replying to your reply referenceing the difference in the triggers of the LC9s and LC9. You assume bootfan was referring to the LC9 and he was not so your comment about the LC9 being DAO is not relevant to their conversation as they were not using the LC9 as a reference.
@Andrew What? All I did was explain to you why I said what I said. If you don't get it, I can't help that. Either way, I'm done here. Enjoy.
Great presentation as always. Excellent points on mechanics, handling, and crimp jump. Years ago when i was still in LE, i went from carrying my SP-101 off duty, to my Kahr P9. Weight was the main factor, but 3 more rounds didn't hurt. Working and living in a town of 5000 meant that i was more likely to get involved in something off duty. As it turns out, i had to assist another officer on my way home at about 0300 pne night, around the corner from my house. Had to draw down and cover a suspect with the SP-101 until we got him detained. Capacity is secondary, but it can be an issue, which was the other factor in the switch. Again, the likelihood of getting involved in something made capacity a little more of a factor. But i still went with a single stack. I got fond of a Glock 30 my last few years, but it is bulkier and wider. FWIW, my summertime carry, usually in shorts and a polo shirt, was my Taurus 850 (S&W 642 clone, more or less) in a good pocket holster. I never liked the untucked shirt look very much, so that was my warm weather solution. Anyway, great to see how the channel has grown. Keep up the great content
RIP Mr Harrell
Wow!... sounds like a "mad minute" there Paul. Thanks for the second version. The side arm that I carry has to do with where I am going and what I intend to do...daily carry vs. the woods. I generally carry a Charter Arms .22 mag or an M&P 9. In the woods, a 44 Mag.
I love my LC9S. The trigger is much better then the original LC9. It's the perfect CCW pistol for me. Plus they have additional mags you can buy with 9 round capacity.
Excellent video as always. Entertaining and educational
Viewers need hearing protection with Ranger Rick in the background shooting the up countryside.
Thank you - since there was no demonstration of whether the LC9 can fire 9x17 in comparison to the LCR; I remembered watching someone on TH-cam demonstrate firing 380 ACP/9x17 out of a 9mm/9x19 autoloader once. He had to manually cycle the slide in between each shot.
Great videos
i hope you continue to make vids for a long time sir. Very entertaining and i learn a lot on your channel.
3:15 But there are 17-18rd flush-fit Beretta 92 magazines made by Beretta and Mec-Gar.
I’m pretty sure there are flush fit metal mags that add 2-3 rounds of capacity to the G17 too, but I could be mistaken.
Best video yet Paul! Ty for the great content!
Show-off, shooting the LC9 with your weak hand. One thing I noticed....if you had shot the LC9 with 1 round in the first mag, you would have the slide lock back...thus adding some time for the reload. Still great stuff regardless.
I noticed it too. But with that logic you should pull trigger one more time with revolver to notice you are empty because you do not count rounds.
No, not the same at all, ggrandcz. Releasing the slide adds another step that takes a bit of additional time regardless of whether you counted your rounds or not. And anyone can count to five.
abc Anyone can count to five, not true, but can MOST people count to 5 while shooting, and be shot at? I'd say not many.
@@bigdiccmarty9335 Good point. :)
I agree, would have added more time and been more realistic to have the slide locked back and had to rack slide...but still would've been faster than a revolver reload.
@11:24
"that was when I was 10 . . . about 30 years ago . . ."
*WINK!!!*
I'm dying!!! Keep up the great work, Mr. Harrell!!
I don’t think the real issue with crimp jump is degradation of accuracy. The concern is that the bullet may move far enough forward to protrude from the front of the cylinder and prevent the cylinder from rotating. This has happened to me with my S&W Titanium Revolvers in .38 Special +P. Since the 9x19 case is shorter than the .38 Special not sure if it would occur in the LCR.
Charles Phillips great comment
Charles Phillips Good observation. The LCR has become very popular and I haven’t seen any seriously negative reviews so it seems to be a solid firearm.
Another reason to carry a revolver vs autoloader was covered by Paul in the episode where he shot both from a coat pocket. The autoloader jammed after 1 or 2 rounds, the revolver never even hiccuped.
I'm in my mid 40's so I'm kind of in between the whole revolver vs. auto loader argument and I can say this; it just depends. If I'm at the ATM you grab me out of nowhere, I'd much rather have a .357 snub in my pocket than any 17 round 9mm on my hip. If I'm at the supermarket and some mentally ill individual starts shooting up the place, then yeah, I want the 12-15 or 17 round auto loader on my hip.
The only thing that really blows my mind is how guys younger than I am completely disregard revolvers as nothing more than "something my grandpa carried"......ummm OK.......and it happens more often than you'll hear an old guy completely shit on an autoloader. Personally, in a state like Arizona (where there literally are no STATE gun laws) I feel just as secure w/a .357 in my pocket (even if only 5 rounds) just as much as I do a 9mm I've got my hip. I'd take the LCR in .357 over the LC9, I'd take the LC9 over the LCR in 9mm.
Very well written (esp first paragraph).
Incidentally I'll be moving to AZ in the coming months. And from what I understand, the minute I get across the state border, I can go into my car trunk, assemble my firearm, and place in on my hip, feel more at peace and ease, and continue to my destination.
OMG!!! a new PH video.... I'm gonna save this until tonight to watch before sleep.... best youtuber!
Paul, what do you think about the caliber .327mag in an LCR? How effective is it compared to say 9x19? It does give one more shot.
I carry a lcr 327 magnum with 32 H&R magnum ammunition. Equal to 38+p or greater depending on the brand of ammunition, and much much less recoil and one extra round compared to 38 snub nose revolver. Also, double tap makes 327 magnum ammunition that is easy to shoot, and approaches 357 magnum power in a 1 7/8” barrel.
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Why mini revolver instead of mini autoloader? Pocket carry! Revolvers(hammerless) are much easier to draw from a pants pocket and the roundish curves conceal better in a pocket than the brick profile of an autoloader.
Some experienced people may choose a revolver for concealed carry because even with experienced shooters, negligent discharges still happen more often than guns are presented for personal defense. Further, the great majority of the time when a gun is presented, the situation is resolved in five shots or less. So, for those people, they have greatly mitigated the chance for a negligent discharge (as experienced as they are), while still having enough capacity for the vast majority of situations. For situations where a higher capacity makes the carrier more comfortable, or is more preferable, but they still want to mitigate risk and have the skills to shoot DA/SA accurately, guns like the Beretta 92fs Compact or the Beretta PX4 Storm compact can be considered. Just my thoughts.
5:15 Harlem Nights
I was talking about that very scene at work today. Great movie.
"Stop shooting that little mother f***er!!"
If Sig hadn’t messed up with the P365 then the need for an LCR and an LC9 would be obsolete! Regardless, thank you for putting forth all the effort that you have for a Part 1 & 2 of this topic Paul. As usual it was exceedingly well done!
Was I the only one to notice this: @ 7:55 when doing the LC9 reload, Paul fires 1 round (the supposed last round) reloads another magazine and fires again....Wait... don't we need to rack the slide to load a round from the fresh mag? This would affect the overall time, maybe a second, definitely not enough to make a difference to the winner of the contest. Not hatin', just statin'. Keep up the great videos Paul and please pardon the backseat driving.
Slide stop I guess.
I think he inserted a full magazine with a round in the chamber for the previous magazine.
That does illustrate the fastest possible semi auto reload
@@christophernemeth421 Exactly
@Evan Moyer Yes, I understand this method and it is the fastest/safest. However if we're comparing apples to apples, a complete emptying of the pistol would have been the fairest comparison. Also, Paul probably didn't even notice because he has trained the way. The average Joe on the other hand, will probably not be thinking... "Oh wait, I'm going to stop shooting the bad guy with one round left in the chamber (keep in mind the difficulty of counting rounds in a high stress situation), then reload with a fresh mag." These are the points of my argument.
@@FirstMetalHamster The slide never locks back.
Ad absurdium, ad astra, ad Infinitum, ad nauseum... was Paul a Latin scholar? Wouldn’t surprise me, and I must say he’s had me consulting my dictionary on more than one occasion. You can learn more than just gun stuff here. And I love how it just rolls off his tongue as well. Great work.
The revolver does have an advantage of less ammo sensitivity--light loads to hot loads don't affect the mechanism. And at least in my subjective experience, the double-action pull is smoother. There is also the fact that the revolver doesn't kick the empties off into the weeds.
I wish he lived near me, I'd gladly offer the area behind our barn to shoot anything he wanted, free from other shooters! Love this guy, the effort he puts into these videos is just amazing.