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Gen 9 is… truly a generation of all time. With things getting banned left and right, more threats rise to power owing to the lack of counter play, which causes more bans etc.
It’s because they’re waffling on these bans. Ban Valient, Gholdengo, Sneasler, Ogerpon Water, and Manaphy at once and watch everything feel a lot better
Smogon bans are meaningless now. Even just 1 generation ago, the bans made sense. The only Pokemon Peasantry which got kicked upstairs to the Legendary table were: Galarian "I always have a Choice Band" Darmanitan, "Terrastilization-before-it-was-cool" Cinderace, and "I-am-going-to-eat-you-immediately" Dracovish. Now? Pfft. You have halfway decent stats and a good gimmick, you're lucky to last a month. Smogon is just the cheems dog now. "T_T Gliscor scawy because it's immune to status and sets up Spikes."
I use Corviknight and it counters Sneasler pretty hard. It does take a lot of damage from close combat, but that just makes the ensuing brave bird much stronger.
You can always run Tera Fighting if you absolutely need to get rid of Corviknight, Sneasler is busted : +2 252+ Atk Tera Fighting Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 400-472 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Tier needs a reset after DLC2, gen 9 metagame is just a chain reaction of one thing getting banned, causing a mon to rise too much for it to get banned, so on. If Sneasler gets banned, something else will rise
@@papertiger4525it causes issues, but people also want them to respect the gend gimmick. Honestly they just need 2 seperate formats, with tera and without tera.
@@theschnozzler I guess you missed the memo about Weavile getting nerfed and now because it's getting it's moves back that's it looking to be strong again.
@@mandalorianhunter1 By it's moves you just mean Knock off, right ? It doesn't need anything else. Also it doesn't have to compete with Chien-Pao anymore, so it actually has a niche of its own
@@arpandas2243 Why HAVEN'T they banned those two already? They're the most problematic. I NEED a physically bulky fighting type just to survive a Fallen 5 Supreme Overlord Kingambit. Otherwise, I basically lose no matter how many Pokemon I still have.
the smogon community is the ones that voted on it. What do the mods have anything to do with the outcome of the vote. People voted on the survey and the results were "gliscor is the pokemon the community wants to see tiering action first" and no one brought it up until the test Gliscor is also a broken pokemon in its own right as its not paired that often with gholdengo and instead glisco rcan just keep up spikes on its own@@arpandas2243
@@akpunk1666 Im being 100% honest This vgc meta sucks as much as singles I loved playing both formats last years and nowadays i barely play any of them Im not coping, i actually want to have fun playing this game instead of hoping the other formats sucks because they are not my favorite
I always combo it with Rilaboom and grassy seed. I maxed attack, got speed to 315 (level 100) and the rest into defense. No on expects a sneasler that can actually take some hits. I love grassy terrain since it helps cut down EQ damage. If they let me get a swords dance its game over. 🔥
Im 100% sure no one hates sneasler it's btfo by ghol lol. And the 3 most common items are grassy seed, focus sash, or normal gem. Never seen a choice item besides like day one
Someone I was up against said “Zzz” because I was taking too long to pick each turn. The next 3 dire claws put each target to sleep, so this guy was definitely snoozing.
Espratha,Sneasler,Ogerpon,Palafin,Chi Yu,and honestly especially Ursaluna Bloodmoon need to come back like we gotta stop BANNING every mon in the game fr fr
As I said before, I don't think Sneasler is ban-worthy. She gets neutered by DonBOZO and Gholdengo (the ladder if she's not carrying Night Slash/Shadow Claw or Fire Punch, but that's giving up Swords Dance or Acrobatics). And there are also more RNG checks that can stop Sneasler in her tracks, like Flame Body or Static Zapdos. Sneasler is one of the best late game cleaners, but she relies on Unburden and Grassy Seed boosts so much, that forcing a Switch-Out will cripple this weasel/cat thingy.
Literally every sneasler brings dark or ghost moves, dengo gets murdered and dondozo would basically be blissey to bmluna, it's the only one that reliably counters it, if that, but let's not forget that it has teammates and enough speed to come back in later anyways, gunk shot is rising to stop those checks from zap and such, it's really just very versatile
@@violebanshee Every Sneasler? Lately I haven't seen anyone that doesn't use the set of Swords Dance, Dire Claw, Close Combat and Acrobatics, it's such a good ass set on such a good ass Pokemon. Besides, if Sneas isn't boosted by Swords Dance, Dark coverage will always miss on the KO to Gholdengo. And Dire Claw is just better off than Gunk Shot imo, the Sleep and Para chances can be game changing, and it doesn't have the bad luck of being... 80% accuracy, which is extremely mediocre because nobody is gonna run Hone Claws just for that.
@@niknak8412 I mean, that's very nice to have, but I wouldn't wanna risk it because if competitive play has taught me anything, less than 100% accuracy can screw you over HARD
@genarftheunfuni5227 Yeah, it can, but sometimes the extra power is needed, and it's a lower chance to sleep zapdos than it is to hit gunk shot, so overall the chances are better against zapdos with gunk shot. Plus, there aren't many other mons I need gunk shot for so I don't really have to rely on it and it also isn't contact so against zapdos moltres or helmet I can't avoid all the burn para nonsense
The fastest psychic type available right now (azelf) is still slower than sneasler, and it can easily terastilize to any type that can overcome its 4x weakness
@@Wildestleafthe user above mentioned that the current fastest psychic type is Azelf still gets outsped by Sneasler, which is true. It's also true that a lot of Psychic types kinda suck in this generation and Tera Psychic has to be one of the worst offensive and defensive tera types. With the exception of the Slowpoke family (most notably the Slowbros), every other psychic type gets screwed by Sneasler and most threats in the high tiers. Slowbro is naturally bulky and can at least take 3 or 4 non-crit hits from a max atk invested Sneasler. TLDR: The Psychic types kinda suck
@@giornogiovanna3477 Xerneas is in Ubers, the power level is too different to be even compared with other mons who have access to OP signatures moves (Houndstone isn't broken without Last Respects ? Waw very surprising thanks Smogon, was really needed to wait until Basculegion instead of just... testing him without the move ?)
@@flo4130 That's the principle. Everyone knew it was Last Respects, but you need to see if the move is OP on another pokemon to see if it's broken. Look at Rage Fist. Annihilape is great with it, but Primeape sucks despite it.
@@flo4130 I never understood that to be honest. To be fair Houndstone only exists in PU, so we didn't miss out on much maybe... Sand teams are not good either
I literally got sleep haxxed by Sneasler 3 times in a row 2 days ago. They should just ban Dire Claw. Sneasler is fine. Dire Claw is the true problem here.
Hot take: sneasler is more indicative of the problems that come with tera as a whole. My biggest issue with this mechanic is that it completely breaks mons with 4x weaknesses. I guarantee you stuff like this would be more manageable with the 4x psychic weakness mattering. Not even open terasheets would matter for sneasler in particular since we all know it chooses flying
not really, yes it does get better, sneasler just has better stat and stabs than hawlucha and psychic does not matter every relevant psychic type either gets ohkod or rillaboom ohko it except glowking. i can assure you this mon would still utterly tear apart this metagame without tera
oh and we have 0 good offensive psychic types this gen, and if we are talking about psychic coverage no mon that wants it can even run it except maybe valiant and moth
@@rockdenderDire Claw is more of an issue IMO because bringing in something to resist it's typing is all well and good until Landorus-T gets put to sleep and gets invalidated anyway. Gliscor would have been the counter for it due to Toxic Orb/Poison Heal but it's banned now. There's basically no steel or poison types able to resist everything it can throw.
I love watching the numbers of people playing on showdown constantly go down. I estimate only 2000 people max are playing smogon ou right now. Meanwhile bss the official singles meta has hundreds of thousands of pokemon players battling on it.
The meta has consistently been "cooking". It has developed and the mons we've banned were done because, shocker, they were overbearing and broken. We're not gonna leave brokens in a tier especially because it just ends up in a broken check broken environment, which is a horrible competitive game
@@Titan990Ah yes, because that is how gen 8, 7, 6 etc ended up. With everything getting banned and not a settled metagame... Maybe it isn't smogon, rather the insane offensive(and little defensive) powercreep gamefreak has made.
It feels like gamedreak was intentionality trying to create the most insufferable thing to play against while designing this thing. Im getting sick off everything being banned but if sneasler was banned i would be really happy
"Why everyone despises Sneasler in Competetive Pokemon" is the name of the video but all lil bro does is cry about not using a steel type im dyin lmfao 😆
Errors: Forgot to mention the tera flying varient with acrobatics and the tera psychic on screen was a mistake on mine ; it was meant to be tera poison (didn't catch this till near the end of editing)
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As the user of the twra flying sneasler, this pokemon is such a menace. Giving this pokemon unburden is unbelievable since its already pretty fast.
@@pat1r1ckthere is a way to counter it , thunder wave slowking
"We're cutting the dex for balance"
*Releases two of the least balanced gens to date
Gen 9 is… truly a generation of all time. With things getting banned left and right, more threats rise to power owing to the lack of counter play, which causes more bans etc.
It’s because they’re waffling on these bans. Ban Valient, Gholdengo, Sneasler, Ogerpon Water, and Manaphy at once and watch everything feel a lot better
And Goldengho still chilling in OU without a ban in sight.
Smogon bans are meaningless now. Even just 1 generation ago, the bans made sense. The only Pokemon Peasantry which got kicked upstairs to the Legendary table were: Galarian "I always have a Choice Band" Darmanitan, "Terrastilization-before-it-was-cool" Cinderace, and "I-am-going-to-eat-you-immediately" Dracovish. Now? Pfft. You have halfway decent stats and a good gimmick, you're lucky to last a month. Smogon is just the cheems dog now. "T_T Gliscor scawy because it's immune to status and sets up Spikes."
Makes gen 5 ou look fair and balanced in comparison
The official games are always there to battle in. I use everything Smogon banned because i don't give a shit about unofficial rules.
Gliscor: And where did that lead you? Right back to me..
I use Corviknight and it counters Sneasler pretty hard. It does take a lot of damage from close combat, but that just makes the ensuing brave bird much stronger.
its a check not a counter but i get what you mean
check because Sneasler can tera, could also SD twice or any other stupid thing Sneasler can do
You can always run Tera Fighting if you absolutely need to get rid of Corviknight, Sneasler is busted :
+2 252+ Atk Tera Fighting Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 400-472 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If they tera with grassy seed, would corv even KO?
There is one true check,! Slowking with thunder wave
Tier needs a reset after DLC2, gen 9 metagame is just a chain reaction of one thing getting banned, causing a mon to rise too much for it to get banned, so on. If Sneasler gets banned, something else will rise
Amidst the reset, they also REALLY need to suspect test terastallization again. It’s been the catalyst for so many mons getting banned.
@@papertiger4525it causes issues, but people also want them to respect the gend gimmick. Honestly they just need 2 seperate formats, with tera and without tera.
@ShadowAraun It has already been tried, without Tera doesn't get enough players
I was just thinking about Sneasler to, this thing is insane.
Funny now Weavile is coming back, people are gonna put the two against each other.
Bro weavile has been in the game since the beginning
@@theschnozzler I guess you missed the memo about Weavile getting nerfed and now because it's getting it's moves back that's it looking to be strong again.
@@mandalorianhunter1 By it's moves you just mean Knock off, right ? It doesn't need anything else. Also it doesn't have to compete with Chien-Pao anymore, so it actually has a niche of its own
@@melikmourali2072 people think it will axle kick, but yeah.
We will see for whatever the dlc brings us
@@mandalorianhunter1why are you being sassy when you worded things ambiguously lmao
Let me guess, in two weeks it'll be banned, huh?
It carried me through many battles. I've grown kind of fond of the Britney Spears weasel.
The Smogon community and Mods are m8r8ns for their ridiculous banning streak but still won't ban Gholdengo and Kingambit
@@arpandas2243 Why HAVEN'T they banned those two already? They're the most problematic. I NEED a physically bulky fighting type just to survive a Fallen 5 Supreme Overlord Kingambit. Otherwise, I basically lose no matter how many Pokemon I still have.
@@arpandas2243 unnecessarily harsh
@@naganut9718 The truth needs to be heard
the smogon community is the ones that voted on it. What do the mods have anything to do with the outcome of the vote. People voted on the survey and the results were "gliscor is the pokemon the community wants to see tiering action first" and no one brought it up until the test
Gliscor is also a broken pokemon in its own right as its not paired that often with gholdengo and instead glisco rcan just keep up spikes on its own@@arpandas2243
fun isn't something one considers with GameFreak's balancing
but this (looks at competitive 1v1 being in SHAMBLES)...does put a smile on my face
They balance for doubles where Sneasler as a glass cannon with many common weaknesses doesn't work as well.
Says this while vgc also sucks to play in gen 9
@@sla7889 cope harder
@@akpunk1666 Im being 100% honest
This vgc meta sucks as much as singles
I loved playing both formats last years and nowadays i barely play any of them
Im not coping, i actually want to have fun playing this game instead of hoping the other formats sucks because they are not my favorite
1v1 has been in shambles since gen 8, at least lower tiers are fun this gen
Imagine telling somebody in 2000 that sneasel would be Ubers and snorlax would be in the bottom tiers
I always combo it with Rilaboom and grassy seed. I maxed attack, got speed to 315 (level 100) and the rest into defense. No on expects a sneasler that can actually take some hits.
I love grassy terrain since it helps cut down EQ damage.
If they let me get a swords dance its game over. 🔥
I like to call Sneasler a Hawlucha with steroids
*Gliscor cackling in the Ubers tier*
this aged way too well 💀💀💀💀💀
Gholdengo hired Sneasler to piss everyone off so we’d forget about his stranglehold on the hazards game
Jimothy warned us of monsters like Gholdengo
Iron Mugulis's schemes run deep
Stranglehold? Maybe you meaned "straghold"?
Wdym Jimothy got paid as well by gholdengo to say it’s his favorite in this meta
@@Rarest26 no that was the paradox form, old money
I love this sassy mean girl weasel with a fresh manipedi. Glad she's back in OU.
Flame body heatran and Moltres raising up in usage may give sneasler some "nerf" but i don't think this pokemkn is gonna last
Heatran is weak to fighting.
And its gone
You forgot Big Nugget Fling!
weird when you were talking about sneasler sets you mention choice band, choice scarf, grassy seed, and focus sash but not white herb
White Herb is an unreal set on sneasler no cap
Im 100% sure no one hates sneasler it's btfo by ghol lol. And the 3 most common items are grassy seed, focus sash, or normal gem. Never seen a choice item besides like day one
He did forget to mention a set that he could run without rilla: Endure reversal liechi berry. Absolute nuke
Well, you called it
big nugget fling is extremely funny
Sneasler and weavile family now in high tiers together nice ❤❤❤
Air Balloon was also great if Rillaboom didn't quite fit your team the best
loving the content friend!
I used to do focus sash into psychic/ground types and just spam reversal ngith slash and gunkshit
Someone I was up against said “Zzz” because I was taking too long to pick each turn. The next 3 dire claws put each target to sleep, so this guy was definitely snoozing.
Cringe
Cringe Sneasler user
@@benwallace5041 did you lose to a choice set or an unburden one? I used choice scarf for mine
@@crockoclock7771 eat this dire claw
Espratha,Sneasler,Ogerpon,Palafin,Chi Yu,and honestly especially Ursaluna Bloodmoon need to come back like we gotta stop BANNING every mon in the game fr fr
Oh yeah the Wolverine.
As I said before, I don't think Sneasler is ban-worthy.
She gets neutered by DonBOZO and Gholdengo (the ladder if she's not carrying Night Slash/Shadow Claw or Fire Punch, but that's giving up Swords Dance or Acrobatics).
And there are also more RNG checks that can stop Sneasler in her tracks, like Flame Body or Static Zapdos.
Sneasler is one of the best late game cleaners, but she relies on Unburden and Grassy Seed boosts so much, that forcing a Switch-Out will cripple this weasel/cat thingy.
Literally every sneasler brings dark or ghost moves, dengo gets murdered and dondozo would basically be blissey to bmluna, it's the only one that reliably counters it, if that, but let's not forget that it has teammates and enough speed to come back in later anyways, gunk shot is rising to stop those checks from zap and such, it's really just very versatile
@@violebanshee Every Sneasler? Lately I haven't seen anyone that doesn't use the set of Swords Dance, Dire Claw, Close Combat and Acrobatics, it's such a good ass set on such a good ass Pokemon.
Besides, if Sneas isn't boosted by Swords Dance, Dark coverage will always miss on the KO to Gholdengo.
And Dire Claw is just better off than Gunk Shot imo, the Sleep and Para chances can be game changing, and it doesn't have the bad luck of being... 80% accuracy, which is extremely mediocre because nobody is gonna run Hone Claws just for that.
@genarftheunfuni5227 I use gunk shot for the ohko chance on defensive zapdos
@@niknak8412 I mean, that's very nice to have, but I wouldn't wanna risk it because if competitive play has taught me anything, less than 100% accuracy can screw you over HARD
@genarftheunfuni5227 Yeah, it can, but sometimes the extra power is needed, and it's a lower chance to sleep zapdos than it is to hit gunk shot, so overall the chances are better against zapdos with gunk shot. Plus, there aren't many other mons I need gunk shot for so I don't really have to rely on it and it also isn't contact so against zapdos moltres or helmet I can't avoid all the burn para nonsense
I lost to a scarf Sneasler cuz it put my Rilla to sleep then when he fainted I went into pult and he went to sleep too. I wanted to shoot my computer
How are you able to get these charts at 3:33 ? Is this something you can do in showdown?
Pikalytics
This is why we need Gliscor
Not everyone hates Sneasler like that. There are also others who prefer this.
Lmao nice timing
You know, if they just unbanned gliscor... i hate sneasler
As a non competitive person why not just have a fast psychic move to do 4x damage and one shot it. It doesn't seem that tanky.
Tera type to dark, now immune to psychic and stab on lashout
The fastest psychic type available right now (azelf) is still slower than sneasler, and it can easily terastilize to any type that can overcome its 4x weakness
And also where can you find a fast psychic type in this gen ?
@@verdanteridium
Completely forgot about the type change mechanic. Good point.
@@Wildestleafthe user above mentioned that the current fastest psychic type is Azelf still gets outsped by Sneasler, which is true. It's also true that a lot of Psychic types kinda suck in this generation and Tera Psychic has to be one of the worst offensive and defensive tera types.
With the exception of the Slowpoke family (most notably the Slowbros), every other psychic type gets screwed by Sneasler and most threats in the high tiers. Slowbro is naturally bulky and can at least take 3 or 4 non-crit hits from a max atk invested Sneasler.
TLDR: The Psychic types kinda suck
Walking wake hasent been talked about for awhile, do you think it might be at uu in some point?
I still dont find any literally any sneasler in my games
You're not high enough on the ladder then. If you find a game above 1500, it feels like at least one game in four has Sneasler in it
Why can't Dire Claw be banned? No other Pokemon can learn it. (Well, except Smergal but that's not until next month)
Because for a move to be banned, it needs to be on multiple OP pokemon. We don't ban Geomancy because Xerneas is good with it
dire claw is not the problem, sneasler is
@@giornogiovanna3477 Xerneas is in Ubers, the power level is too different to be even compared with other mons who have access to OP signatures moves (Houndstone isn't broken without Last Respects ? Waw very surprising thanks Smogon, was really needed to wait until Basculegion instead of just... testing him without the move ?)
@@flo4130 That's the principle. Everyone knew it was Last Respects, but you need to see if the move is OP on another pokemon to see if it's broken. Look at Rage Fist. Annihilape is great with it, but Primeape sucks despite it.
@@flo4130 I never understood that to be honest. To be fair Houndstone only exists in PU, so we didn't miss out on much maybe... Sand teams are not good either
Smogon players going 1 week without suggesting a new ban challenge impossible difficulty.
I literally got sleep haxxed by Sneasler 3 times in a row 2 days ago. They should just ban Dire Claw. Sneasler is fine. Dire Claw is the true problem here.
Sash alakazam could beat unburden sneasler. Too bad it isn’t in the game and they removed counter from its moveset.
Here while it says "No views"
Don't banned sneasler it really isn't that broken tbh, especially poison touch sneasler
It is hated?
Personally I only hate manaphi.
That thing is hard to kill.
Hot take: sneasler is more indicative of the problems that come with tera as a whole. My biggest issue with this mechanic is that it completely breaks mons with 4x weaknesses. I guarantee you stuff like this would be more manageable with the 4x psychic weakness mattering. Not even open terasheets would matter for sneasler in particular since we all know it chooses flying
not really, yes it does get better, sneasler just has better stat and stabs than hawlucha and psychic does not matter every relevant psychic type either gets ohkod or rillaboom ohko it except glowking. i can assure you this mon would still utterly tear apart this metagame without tera
oh and we have 0 good offensive psychic types this gen, and if we are talking about psychic coverage no mon that wants it can even run it except maybe valiant and moth
@@rockdenderDire Claw is more of an issue IMO because bringing in something to resist it's typing is all well and good until Landorus-T gets put to sleep and gets invalidated anyway. Gliscor would have been the counter for it due to Toxic Orb/Poison Heal but it's banned now.
There's basically no steel or poison types able to resist everything it can throw.
@@caldw615 people like running gunk shot more because it one shots the birds,
@@rockdender Gunk shot has the risk of missing at least. Dire Claw doesn't ontop of it's status inflicting properties.
Its not ugly like inceneroar
Gen 7 ou this Thing would be ru
Because GameFreak loves making cheap knock-off fursuits and people eat them up.
I love watching the numbers of people playing on showdown constantly go down. I estimate only 2000 people max are playing smogon ou right now. Meanwhile bss the official singles meta has hundreds of thousands of pokemon players battling on it.
Maybe if Smogon stopped banning things and let the meta cook, it wouldn’t need to keep chain banning and find proper counters.
The meta has consistently been "cooking". It has developed and the mons we've banned were done because, shocker, they were overbearing and broken. We're not gonna leave brokens in a tier especially because it just ends up in a broken check broken environment, which is a horrible competitive game
comments like this yell i dont break 1400 and rarely play
@@Snagavitch comments like yours says im bad at Pokemon and want everything banned.
@@HowlingOneify and when you ban Pokemon, other mons take its place and you have to ban those too. It’s an arms race that leaves no one satisfied.
@@Titan990Ah yes, because that is how gen 8, 7, 6 etc ended up. With everything getting banned and not a settled metagame...
Maybe it isn't smogon, rather the insane offensive(and little defensive) powercreep gamefreak has made.
Next video: Sneasler was banned to Ubers
Also next video: Scarlet and Violet got banned to Anything Goes, you are not allowed to play this metagame.
It feels like gamedreak was intentionality trying to create the most insufferable thing to play against while designing this thing. Im getting sick off everything being banned but if sneasler was banned i would be really happy
Fake news. Gholdengo is worse. Let's not distract.
"Why everyone despises Sneasler in Competetive Pokemon" is the name of the video but all lil bro does is cry about not using a steel type im dyin lmfao 😆
Sneasler? Most hated? Are we _sure_ about this???
look at any forum and all you see is sneasler complaints. i have no idea what you mean