I.... love this dude. His vocal cadence was overwhelmingly distracting at first, but now it's my favorite thing about the videos. He's the Christopher Walken of Reaper tutorials.
Your tips continue to be just what I need. So straightforward and simple to understand. And then you take the time to delineate the subtleties of fine-tuning the effects. Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks Kenny. I was mixing a country song with an overly busy arrangement. I set up a folder with the instruments that were causing me grief against the vocal, with a sidechained compressor. Not only did it sort the intrusive instruments, it also... I dunno... the song suddenly went from seeming overwhelming and claustrophobic to being relaxed and open. Cutting the instruments would have been too much, but this worked a treat.
You are my savior Kenny!!!! all I have is a vocal track+background, a wonderfull clasical guit and a harmonica......still with pan, EQ and all sorts of tricks I have mush when the vocs come in....I finally re-mixed an old song "Eldorado"
Awesome video Kenny! Would love to see one on how to duck the whole track with multiple instruments under the kick and snare like in EDM. Keep up the good work my friend 👍
Super important bit if you're using MIDI for this. If you're using MIDI, then when you move over the send there will be the spot that you set the audio channels from "1-2" => "3/4". TO THE RIGHT OF THIS IS THE MIDI SECTION. SET THIS TO NONE. Super crucial and I wish this was mentioned in the video
When I set my "VST1" track to send signal to the "VST2" track, "VST1" track also sent the MIDI pattern to the "VST2" track, making it play that MIDI pattern on "VST2" track. How can I fix it so that it stops sending the MIDI pattern? EDIT: Oh, it seems I only need to disable MIDI in routing
Every video talks about Routing Button but version 7 does not seem to have it - will export back into Logic Pro 11 & do it that as at least Reaper reads 32bit plugins! Great tutorial though but only if the Routing Button is available & there seems to be no way to get access to it via the preferences.
I put a kick drum in ReasamplOmatic5000 after that when i side chain the bass line i hear a bass with my kick drum.when i render a kick to audio file every thing fine!!could u plz show us how is it possible with kick in the sampler.tnx
Is there any way to do this on a live input source that I'm not actively recording? I am basically using Reaper as a live mixing console for a virtual event using Reastream, and I'd like to be able to side chain duck a live source with a live mic. Possible?
@@bw.4433 I actually ended up doing this successfully. Feel free to email me if you need help. Not sure how to give you my email without just putting it here publicly viewable...
How do I do this with notetracks? I'm trying to sidechain kicks to saws and sub for a future bass track but when I do it plays the drum track as saw as well... I'm using Serum VST, any help??
Coming from Cubase and other DAWs, the routing in Reaper doesn't make much sense at all to me. What if you compressor is on a track that has a variety of other compressors or gates or other things that have inputs.. how do you know what's what and ensure you route into the right sidechain input?
Isn't this accounted for with the pin routing where he sent pins 1/2 to pin receives 3/4 of the track and the compressor itself was detecting that 3/4? Where other compressors on the track wouldn't be responding to the send at all, because they would only be responding to sends that were going from pin 1/2 out pin 1/2 like normal. I thought anyway.
idk what has changed in reaper, but for some stupid reason, when i try to route the sidechaining audio from 1/2 to 3/4, i can still hear it. this tutorial says it doesnt, but i asked someone else whos an avid user of reaper and they say its supposed to happen that way.
I'm assuming this would work the same way with folders. I just went through a nightmare having to try to do this with a haunted file in Logic Pro X. It had originally been a Garageband 5 file, and it was not doing anything the way the it should, but no matter what I did, I could not get the compressor to use the source side chain as the trigger. I tried absolutely everything. I eventually had to use the ducking feature in the gate, which worked without a hitch. I'd like to see a video on using ducking folders with other folders, some of which may already contain internal ducking. This is a much trickier thing to do, and I think it would make a great tutorial. For instance, if there was a kick drum ducking the bass within the music folder, and then you wanted to have all of the music inside the music folder be ducked by all of the output from the folder containing the vocals, what would be the best way to route this? It can get confusing, and I'd love to see Kenny show us the best way to do something like that. Thanks for another great video, Kenny! You are the best. Truly.
I need to find a solution that is command line only with a raspberry pi on live audio stero in and a mono mic or line in and combine out. Doing a portable podcast setup without traditional laptop or desktop.
any knowledge on how to get waves vocal rider to accept sidechain input through the wavs plugin, not through reaper channel 3/4 side-chaining? Possibly i won't have to worry about tha tnot working now that i got this cool little trick to play around with. Pce yo, 1luv 1reaperfamily together we BAND together, i mean STAND ...jk idunnno its late and no one is up, typical night for myself-- luckily i got music
Man, I wish Reaper would still look the same, I have the current version and I can't for the life of me find a way to send the VO track to the music so I can't trigger the compressor
Well, you dont necessarily need to use this compressor (Its the stock compressor that comes with reaper) - any compressor with sidechain-option should do the trick, and i am pretty sure CuBases stock ones have that option, too. However, the people over at Cockos were nice enough to release those Plugins for free, and they should work with Cubase. Just google "ReaPlugs" and you should find em :) Cheers!
@@evil_in_your_closet Yes you are right. I know there is a sidechain option in Cubase but no pre-compressor. I couldn't find it. Could you tell me another way to make sidechain on that Plugins?
It only works for pre-recorded vocals, as I found out. Also, watch the vid again, it took me 6 watches to actually understand what to do!! And this is the best vid on the subject on TH-cam!
Little late now I suppose, but they all have their different uses and times when they are useful. Automation might be something like, see all the transients in the waveform? You might want to bring those UP in level with a volume envelope directly on the media item in Reaper.. to keep a consistent volume from the speaker, like a Voiceover for radio.. Generally, compression AFTER fixing the dynamics with automation will sound the tightest and glue everything together.. Then ducking or sidechain compression really has it's uses in other applications.. Most typically, it's used as a pumping effect on the kick drum in electronic music, the kick will be a very sharp low/mid-range punch frequency after EQ, then you will let the kick "CUT" the mix of your track using some ducking effect.. It's used a lot of trance and other genres of music more subtly and it tends to allow a bit of magic or breathing room for the music, since the track being ducked is sort of tracing the outline or shape of the incoming waveform.. That's more of an artistic aesthetic.. there's other times in radio production and also in video game mixing.. where ducking becomes essential, dialogue should be heard clearly and intelligibly, so it becomes more of a function to use a ducking hierarchy system a lot in games where the whole game is consistently loud and things need to be brought down in volume quite considerably.
I.... love this dude. His vocal cadence was overwhelmingly distracting at first, but now it's my favorite thing about the videos. He's the Christopher Walken of Reaper tutorials.
This channel is really helpful, but your right. It sounds like every single one of his sentences is a question.
Shatner style
So glad you said Christopher Walken, I've been thinking........ the wheelchair boy .........from Malcolm..... in the Middle.
I cannot unhear Christopher Walken while listening to this now!
100%
This is the greatest ducking video I've ever seen.
Yes, very nice indeed.
Autocorrect moment
@@bigt9688 Kenny is a ducking legend!
Fantastic explanation. Love the methodical process of explaining everything.
Your tips continue to be just what I need. So straightforward and simple to understand. And then you take the time to delineate the subtleties of fine-tuning the effects. Awesome! Thank you!
This is one of the best audio and visual explanations of what a compressor does, never mind it also being a great side chain tutorial.
How the HECK can someone downvote this excellent video? ...Kenny is brillliant!
I keep coming back to this video every time I need to do this. Thanks!
Kenny is a great teacher. I'm french and I understand everything. THX :) Great Lesson.
👍 I’m danish, and I understand also everything!
I think Kenny is the best reaper educator on you tube!
Kenny is definetely born to teach. It's easy to follow his videos and it makes fun! 🙂👍
Amazin!!! Now I know how to duck the bass when the kick thumps up!!! A secret to a solid low end!
This is a straightforward tutorial. Thanks for giving me a starting point on how to use this tool properly.
Thank you Kenny. None else to say. Keep them coming!
Thanks Kenny. I was mixing a country song with an overly busy arrangement. I set up a folder with the instruments that were causing me grief against the vocal, with a sidechained compressor. Not only did it sort the intrusive instruments, it also... I dunno... the song suddenly went from seeming overwhelming and claustrophobic to being relaxed and open. Cutting the instruments would have been too much, but this worked a treat.
This is one of the best Reaper channels! Thanks Kenny.
Thanks! You always provide the best tutorials available on this subjects, you're the reaper guru
Kenny, you're the best! Your videos have helped me so much this past year with getting VO gigs and editing them myself.
Thanks for everything you do
This tutorial is amazing. It downloaded Reaper 20 min ago and I got to make this on the first try! Thank you for your tutorials. Just subscribed!
This is an absolutely amazing tutorial, thank you so much!
You are my savior Kenny!!!! all I have is a vocal track+background, a wonderfull clasical guit and a harmonica......still with pan, EQ and all sorts of tricks I have mush when the vocs come in....I finally re-mixed an old song "Eldorado"
Awesome video Kenny! Would love to see one on how to duck the whole track with multiple instruments under the kick and snare like in EDM. Keep up the good work my friend 👍
Thanks again Kenny. Didn't know you could do the drag and drop thing between tracks. Very cool.
"You're gonna hear it (the vocal) on both tracks, and we don' wan'it". Exactly describes my issue, thank you sir!
Very best video on this subject (sidechain compression using native Reaper components)... thanks so much
Super important bit if you're using MIDI for this.
If you're using MIDI, then when you move over the send there will be the spot that you set the audio channels from "1-2" => "3/4". TO THE RIGHT OF THIS IS THE MIDI SECTION. SET THIS TO NONE. Super crucial and I wish this was mentioned in the video
so...All midi instruments were being triggered when not set to NONE? That must´ve been crazy! Thanks for the heads up.
Be aware that using the pre-comp a lot of Latency is introduced (6000 samples for the example from the tutorial).
I just tried it, thanks for crisp explanation Kenny!
I prefer this one than the Reagate. This worked easily for me. Thanks man!
Booth Junkie sent me. Great information here and in the whole channel!
Thx to you dude i could finally use the Sidechain in my mix
Best explanation i've seen, thanks so much for this!
Very clear and helpful tutorial, highly appreciated!
That was the best explanation that I've found in entire youtube. Thanks!
As always, great stuff, Kenny! 👍
Thanks for been so practical and go straight to the point! a great teacher!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you Kenny!
Very well produced... thanks for that!
awesome. super appreciate your lesson. May your life is full of happiness :)
Reaper is what we need specially this pandemic time and Kenny is our saviour 😎
When I set my "VST1" track to send signal to the "VST2" track, "VST1" track also sent the MIDI pattern to the "VST2" track, making it play that MIDI pattern on "VST2" track. How can I fix it so that it stops sending the MIDI pattern?
EDIT: Oh, it seems I only need to disable MIDI in routing
you saved me a head ache thanks!
Every video talks about Routing Button but version 7 does not seem to have it - will export back into Logic Pro 11 & do it that as at least Reaper reads 32bit plugins! Great tutorial though but only if the Routing Button is available & there seems to be no way to get access to it via the preferences.
pure gold video
Really helpful, thank you, trying to do this for bass and drums in an electro-house track :)
An oldie but goodie!
I see you've adjusted the volume on the items instead of on the track.
Do you have any best practice advice on this?
Works beautifully
Could the same principle apply with using Xcomp to duck the bass track with the kick in the drum track?
Thats what I'm thinking too. I believe side chain compression is used a lot in electronic music because the 808 is so huge but so are the bass parts
what about if you have 12tracks...where do you send the ducking too?
+Blain Smith Put them in folder
Good video. Clear and to the point. Thank you.
Any idea why my music is ducking the vocal but I can no longer hear the vocal? I did exactly what Kenny did.
Rock on . simple, straight forward . Thanks man !
Dude thank you so much! That was very helpful right there
Thanks, now is there a way to make it so I only get the audio from the track send, and not in the track I'm sending to?
🔥 *how about external side chain?*
I put a kick drum in ReasamplOmatic5000 after that when i side chain the bass line i hear a bass with my kick drum.when i render a kick to audio file every thing fine!!could u plz show us how is it possible with kick in the sampler.tnx
Thanks again Kenny 👌
Is there any way to do this on a live input source that I'm not actively recording? I am basically using Reaper as a live mixing console for a virtual event using Reastream, and I'd like to be able to side chain duck a live source with a live mic. Possible?
@ Reaper Mania I have the same question.
@@bw.4433 I actually ended up doing this successfully. Feel free to email me if you need help. Not sure how to give you my email without just putting it here publicly viewable...
@@maurissadorn7916 thank you but I don't know how to send you a private message too :D
@@maurissadorn7916 I've sent you the invitation on LinkedIn :)
An interesting question. Presumably the pre compression is not available.
Incredibly helpful.
How do I do this with notetracks? I'm trying to sidechain kicks to saws and sub for a future bass track but when I do it plays the drum track as saw as well... I'm using Serum VST, any help??
Love this nice technique! Thank you!
Parent channel has to be 1-4 but mine remains at 1-2 and not getting any signals on my comp
Thanks, Kenny!
Anyine else have use his voice in their head when following instructions?
Thank you for great video, so well explained!
Coming from Cubase and other DAWs, the routing in Reaper doesn't make much sense at all to me. What if you compressor is on a track that has a variety of other compressors or gates or other things that have inputs.. how do you know what's what and ensure you route into the right sidechain input?
His send is Pre Fader so it won't have other plugins affecting it
Isn't this accounted for with the pin routing where he sent pins 1/2 to pin receives 3/4 of the track and the compressor itself was detecting that 3/4? Where other compressors on the track wouldn't be responding to the send at all, because they would only be responding to sends that were going from pin 1/2 out pin 1/2 like normal. I thought anyway.
idk what has changed in reaper, but for some stupid reason, when i try to route the sidechaining audio from 1/2 to 3/4, i can still hear it. this tutorial says it doesnt, but i asked someone else whos an avid user of reaper and they say its supposed to happen that way.
Great explanation and examples.
I'm assuming this would work the same way with folders. I just went through a nightmare having to try to do this with a haunted file in Logic Pro X. It had originally been a Garageband 5 file, and it was not doing anything the way the it should, but no matter what I did, I could not get the compressor to use the source side chain as the trigger. I tried absolutely everything. I eventually had to use the ducking feature in the gate, which worked without a hitch. I'd like to see a video on using ducking folders with other folders, some of which may already contain internal ducking. This is a much trickier thing to do, and I think it would make a great tutorial. For instance, if there was a kick drum ducking the bass within the music folder, and then you wanted to have all of the music inside the music folder be ducked by all of the output from the folder containing the vocals, what would be the best way to route this? It can get confusing, and I'd love to see Kenny show us the best way to do something like that. Thanks for another great video, Kenny! You are the best. Truly.
I need to find a solution that is command line only with a raspberry pi on live audio stero in and a mono mic or line in and combine out. Doing a portable podcast setup without traditional laptop or desktop.
I love yours videos! Thanks so much!
Amazing lesson and example.Thanks!!
any knowledge on how to get waves vocal rider to accept sidechain input through the wavs plugin, not through reaper channel 3/4 side-chaining? Possibly i won't have to worry about tha tnot working now that i got this cool little trick to play around with. Pce yo, 1luv 1reaperfamily together we BAND together, i mean STAND ...jk idunnno its late and no one is up, typical night for myself-- luckily i got music
Annnnnd of course when I follow this, the option for AUX L+R doesn't appear for me, only AUX, AUX L *OR* AUX R...
I love your voice man
Also amazing tutorial
Awesome. Thanks Kenny!
Super helpful! Thank you!
А можно достичь такой плавности в Audition?
Hi kenny do i do this after the track is done is this the last thing i do after editing.
Man, I wish Reaper would still look the same, I have the current version and I can't for the life of me find a way to send the VO track to the music so I can't trigger the compressor
Dois this plugin work on Cubase 10? If it's yes, could you give me that link, please?
Well, you dont necessarily need to use this compressor (Its the stock compressor that comes with reaper) - any compressor with sidechain-option should do the trick, and i am pretty sure CuBases stock ones have that option, too. However, the people over at Cockos were nice enough to release those Plugins for free, and they should work with Cubase. Just google "ReaPlugs" and you should find em :) Cheers!
@@evil_in_your_closet I downloaded that Plugins but there was no sidechain option.
@@evil_in_your_closet Yes you are right. I know there is a sidechain option in Cubase but no pre-compressor. I couldn't find it. Could you tell me another way to make sidechain on that Plugins?
Excellent video, thank you!
another great video! thanks!
Excellent. Thanks Kenny!
awesome video !
Hallo Kenny for upgreate/update I need pay?
My reaper doesn't have routing for some reason
CTRL + M
Yo this doesn't work for me, any ideas why? I followed everything he said...
It only works for pre-recorded vocals, as I found out. Also, watch the vid again, it took me 6 watches to actually understand what to do!! And this is the best vid on the subject on TH-cam!
Great tutorial. Thank you!
When to use ducking vs automation?
Little late now I suppose, but they all have their different uses and times when they are useful.
Automation might be something like, see all the transients in the waveform? You might want to bring those UP in level with a volume envelope directly on the media item in Reaper.. to keep a consistent volume from the speaker, like a Voiceover for radio.. Generally, compression AFTER fixing the dynamics with automation will sound the tightest and glue everything together..
Then ducking or sidechain compression really has it's uses in other applications.. Most typically, it's used as a pumping effect on the kick drum in electronic music, the kick will be a very sharp low/mid-range punch frequency after EQ, then you will let the kick "CUT" the mix of your track using some ducking effect.. It's used a lot of trance and other genres of music more subtly and it tends to allow a bit of magic or breathing room for the music, since the track being ducked is sort of tracing the outline or shape of the incoming waveform..
That's more of an artistic aesthetic.. there's other times in radio production and also in video game mixing.. where ducking becomes essential, dialogue should be heard clearly and intelligibly, so it becomes more of a function to use a ducking hierarchy system a lot in games where the whole game is consistently loud and things need to be brought down in volume quite considerably.
Disney have most likely claimed ad revenue on this
Thank you so much
Thank Kenny Goia from Goisey ;)
Aah I see. "Pre-comp" functions the same as "Lookahead" on plugins from other manufacturers.
the perfect tutorial
And... I'm back again...
Thank you man
I'm pretty sure this guy IS reaper
VERY GOOD. SO THANKS.
So many steps and complex, my memory isn't that good.... 😕😕
Thank you Sir!!!