Great job, great video. You took a good approach, were thoughtful about how you proceeded, and in the end it wasn't all that hard. I like your approach so much better than just writing a $3,000 check to Wilwood and waiting for the parts to show up.
Do you worry about the washers shifting around at all? Now that you know the spacing you need maybe you could machine (or buy) solid spacers and weld them to the bracket.
I'm not really worried about that. There's a lot of clamping pressure, plus if they shift around, nothing will happen. The forces acting on the caliper are only rotational, nothing side to side.
from a quick search it seems like the LX calipers are steel and axial mounted. Why didnt you go with the LS430 calipers? im trying to fit these onto a Celica SS-III
@@justintowers8230the ones I have are not axial mounted. the lx570 mounts are wide and stubby. The width meant it would go just on the outside of the OEM spindle mounts. So I can mount it super close to the spindle. Making it fit in a 15" wheel. Would be nice if they were aluminum but oh well
@@heith85 thats what im saying the ls430 are alloy and can be bought used for $80-110. so unless you got yours for free id say not worth it. I guess toyota did that because the extra weight from the lx chassis would overheat the calipers and cause warpage
Well the knuckles are off a Mazda RX8 but they go on my 1982 Corolla. The calipers are generic dirt racing ones from speedway motors. The video wasn't about the specific application. More about the process to adapt whatever you have to work.
Have you gotten the car Started yet in interested in copying your clutch setup because I need to copy it outright instead of a heavier flywheel which I would have preferred
I have not started it yet. My next task is to build manifolds. Turbo manifold first, then intake manifold. The clutch setup is relatively simple as long as you match spline counts and get the spacing correct.
@@slightedengineering thanks I'm actually going to try and use more of the nascar parts like the carbon fibre parts sway bar mounts etc whatever else suits my needs and maybe I'll start posting videos on my progress as a reminder
@NJ Dorset I'll actually be doing a large amount of carbon work on the car too. I'll try to document the process in as much detail to make it DIY friendly.
@@slightedengineering I'll actually be doing custom carbon or carbon kevlar work as well and a cantilever rear suspension and a 5x114.3 conversion because it's a bmw
That and because it's in double sheer, it would have to fail in 2 separate points at the same time. Also, rolled steel is much stronger than cast, which is what the knuckle is made from in this case.
How did you arrive at .25" thickness? I am working on this project for my car but am not sure how to determine the right thickness for structural integrity
I have no idea to be honest. Caliper and pads are designed for a specific rotor diameter and thickness. I used those specs and found a comparable rotor that had dimensional differences I was comfortable with and used it.
@@slightedengineering very cool ! I want to do the same for my rear calipers but idk what calipers are out there so I can do the conversion for my 08 mustang gt500. It has brembos at the front but ugly stock ones at the rear and there not that many options
@@SpeedyBoyy you'll want to make sure the bolt circle matches on the rotor. The OD of the rotor is close to the original rotor that's paired with the caliper for whichever ones you end up with and that the rotor thickness is similar.
Let's dive into this a little bit then if you're concerned. The OEM knuckle is made from cast steel and, as such, is not as strong as a rolled steel material, which is what the bracket is made from. The OEM knuckle also needs enough material to have threads in place for mounting which is also not comparable to the adapter brackets. Due to these intrinsic material properties, the cross sections do not need to be comparable. Since the bracket is one piece, it is placed in a double sheer condition requiring multiple places to sheer at one time for it to fail. The mounting hardware is sized according to the caliper, which is designed for that size rotor and for the forces it will see. Also, the aftermarket industry has widely accepted aluminum adapter brackets, which will not be stronger than these, but will cost more.
@@slightedengineering and where can i get parts for them ? Brake pads are mad expensive. Like 200usd for a set of pads with the calipers being like 150usd thats insane do you have a link to them cheaper?
@@slightedengineering so do you think they are a viable option to out on my drift car ? Are they still making them because i saw a where they said they were discontinued.
@jackbrimstone1004 Only you can decide if it's viable. They use a standard wilwood pad shape so you can source a variety of pads from multiple companies.
Great job, great video. You took a good approach, were thoughtful about how you proceeded, and in the end it wasn't all that hard. I like your approach so much better than just writing a $3,000 check to Wilwood and waiting for the parts to show up.
Do you worry about the washers shifting around at all? Now that you know the spacing you need maybe you could machine (or buy) solid spacers and weld them to the bracket.
I'm not really worried about that. There's a lot of clamping pressure, plus if they shift around, nothing will happen. The forces acting on the caliper are only rotational, nothing side to side.
Damm thats a good video I been trying figure how to make brackets for my truck for some brembos glad I saw your video
Thanks! Feel free to like and subscribe. It really helps as I'm trying to grow the channel!
@@slightedengineering yeah for sure I want to do some to put on my 90 c1500 pick up truck.
Hi! Cool installation! Can you please tell me the sizes of pads? Is it the same as wilwood 150-8854k or 150-8855k?
what year of brake disc ford explorer?
Great Video! Congratulations!
I am trying hard to make a brake set up on the rx8 so I can clear 15's. So far I have lx570 calipers and have some mk4 non turbo supra rotors.
from a quick search it seems like the LX calipers are steel and axial mounted. Why didnt you go with the LS430 calipers? im trying to fit these onto a Celica SS-III
@@justintowers8230the ones I have are not axial mounted. the lx570 mounts are wide and stubby. The width meant it would go just on the outside of the OEM spindle mounts. So I can mount it super close to the spindle. Making it fit in a 15" wheel. Would be nice if they were aluminum but oh well
@@heith85 thats what im saying the ls430 are alloy and can be bought used for $80-110. so unless you got yours for free id say not worth it. I guess toyota did that because the extra weight from the lx chassis would overheat the calipers and cause warpage
@@justintowers8230 that's great but they are completely different calipers. There isn't a aluminum variation of that caliper.
What car? Where’d you get the brakes? Otherwise great. Just no context.
Well the knuckles are off a Mazda RX8 but they go on my 1982 Corolla. The calipers are generic dirt racing ones from speedway motors. The video wasn't about the specific application. More about the process to adapt whatever you have to work.
@@slightedengineering thank you ! Big brakes incoming on my tuned Renault trafic
Have you gotten the car Started yet in interested in copying your clutch setup because I need to copy it outright instead of a heavier flywheel which I would have preferred
I have not started it yet. My next task is to build manifolds. Turbo manifold first, then intake manifold. The clutch setup is relatively simple as long as you match spline counts and get the spacing correct.
@@slightedengineering thanks I'm actually going to try and use more of the nascar parts like the carbon fibre parts sway bar mounts etc whatever else suits my needs and maybe I'll start posting videos on my progress as a reminder
@NJ Dorset I'll actually be doing a large amount of carbon work on the car too. I'll try to document the process in as much detail to make it DIY friendly.
@@slightedengineering I'll actually be doing custom carbon or carbon kevlar work as well and a cantilever rear suspension and a 5x114.3 conversion because it's a bmw
How come such a thin piece of steel can handle all that braking force? is it because is shearing force?
That and because it's in double sheer, it would have to fail in 2 separate points at the same time. Also, rolled steel is much stronger than cast, which is what the knuckle is made from in this case.
How did you arrive at .25" thickness? I am working on this project for my car but am not sure how to determine the right thickness for structural integrity
I crated some at 1/2 inch because it’s better to have more metal than less
Does this caliper apply as the same as a mustang gt 2016? I’m wanting to do my big brake kit since I’m running an LS in my rx8.
I have no idea to be honest. Caliper and pads are designed for a specific rotor diameter and thickness. I used those specs and found a comparable rotor that had dimensional differences I was comfortable with and used it.
What front knuckle did you use?
These are off of a Mazda Rx-8.
@@slightedengineering coolio thank you
have you test them ?
Not yet, car is still in the build process. Hoping to have it driving next summer.
@@slightedengineering very cool ! I want to do the same for my rear calipers but idk what calipers are out there so I can do the conversion for my 08 mustang gt500. It has brembos at the front but ugly stock ones at the rear and there not that many options
@@SpeedyBoyy you'll want to make sure the bolt circle matches on the rotor. The OD of the rotor is close to the original rotor that's paired with the caliper for whichever ones you end up with and that the rotor thickness is similar.
I like that
aaand thats how u die...
i hope this is just an engineering/dimensional sample...
How is this any different than adapter brackets widely used in caliper adaption for various applications?
@@slightedengineering SIZE, MATERIAL.. an so on..
1/4th of the X-section of the OEM.. on a bigger brake...
Let's dive into this a little bit then if you're concerned. The OEM knuckle is made from cast steel and, as such, is not as strong as a rolled steel material, which is what the bracket is made from. The OEM knuckle also needs enough material to have threads in place for mounting which is also not comparable to the adapter brackets. Due to these intrinsic material properties, the cross sections do not need to be comparable. Since the bracket is one piece, it is placed in a double sheer condition requiring multiple places to sheer at one time for it to fail. The mounting hardware is sized according to the caliper, which is designed for that size rotor and for the forces it will see. Also, the aftermarket industry has widely accepted aluminum adapter brackets, which will not be stronger than these, but will cost more.
Say what slighted said
Tell me, what’s it like to eat stupid for breakfast?? @user-he4cf9mz5g
What car do those brake calipers fit ?
These are generic calipers designed for circle track use
@@slightedengineering and where can i get parts for them ? Brake pads are mad expensive. Like 200usd for a set of pads with the calipers being like 150usd thats insane do you have a link to them cheaper?
@@jackbrimstone1004 race pads are expensive regardless of the caliper they're for.
@@slightedengineering so do you think they are a viable option to out on my drift car ? Are they still making them because i saw a where they said they were discontinued.
@jackbrimstone1004 Only you can decide if it's viable. They use a standard wilwood pad shape so you can source a variety of pads from multiple companies.