WIFE is HAPPY/HUSBAND is NOT - DIY Well Pump Installation

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  • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
    @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

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    • @protectormc
      @protectormc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yoo martin you definitely need to put insulation on the water pipe and pump so it won’t freeze 🥶
      Don’t make that mistake trust me put some on it

    • @1969barnabas
      @1969barnabas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Martin, how are you getting water into the house if you didn't already have a well? Are you sharing water from your neighbor's house?

    • @takeastandorbeenslavedby-left
      @takeastandorbeenslavedby-left 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should really be running a 220v pump at that depth. 110 is a no go. Buy a new pump

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The pump is 200’ under ground.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe later. This one is working fine for now.

  • @cglenncowdell2408
    @cglenncowdell2408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    The two eyelets on top of your pump, that you taped over is to attach a safety cable too. So that in a few years you can still pull your pump up when all the sediment, rust and sand settle on top of your pump. The plastic pipe and wires will not take much force to brake off. I would use stainless cable with stainless cable clamps. Just a heads up for problems down the road.

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      you are right, i have seen a few pumps that end up in the bottom of the well .

    • @yatessmyrna
      @yatessmyrna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Use stainless cable and hardware.

    • @valvemonky4734
      @valvemonky4734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      15:00 if you notice before at he put the pump in he tied a nylon yellow rope too one of the eyelets

    • @markwilliams4525
      @markwilliams4525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wonder what his pumping water level is.
      Hopefully the 1/2 hp pump will do the trick

    • @markwilliams4525
      @markwilliams4525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@valvemonky4734 the yellow rope is useless! Needs to be stainless

  • @captjim007
    @captjim007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a country boy I can totally relate to your well experiences. I had to completely redo my well pump, tank, plumbing and electrical when I bought this place because everything was broken and I couldn't afford a well company to do it. I researched and learned how to do it all myself. Now every time I use water I feel like a pioneer. One more thing, always test your pump in a tub before you put it down the well. It can save a lot of time.

    • @videosByRuss
      @videosByRuss 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol. How you get your tub full without the pump working :) :) ????

    • @captjim007
      @captjim007 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@videosByRuss just put water in a tub

    • @videosByRuss
      @videosByRuss 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@captjim007 I mean you have no water at the house 😂

  • @jamesbibler6492
    @jamesbibler6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I can't believe how optimistic you remained! Love the enthusiasm.

    • @mikeslotta3283
      @mikeslotta3283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have been throwing stuff, and I'm supposed to be a Christian!🤣

    • @RSole9999
      @RSole9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Optimistic on camera. Who knows what tears and cursing went on while not recording. Ellen Degeneres was also very sweet in the public eye.

  • @markmatt9174
    @markmatt9174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mozt well pumps in my area are all 220/240 volt, you were plugging it into a 15 amp 120 volt outlet, which will pull 2X the amperage. With a pump at that depth i would be running a 3 wire pump with a VFD which will stop the high torq rotational forces.

  • @jdemicoli
    @jdemicoli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video ! One way to save on generator oversizing would be that of installing a soft starter. It will reduce your starting Amps by up to 70%. The problem you were encountering is likely due to the fact that during a motor start (just like the deep-well pump) the current drawn is about 7-8 times the rated current and the generator might not handle that due to the starting kVA capability.

  • @oldsalty8562
    @oldsalty8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I drilled my well I ran it 24/7 for two days before it cleared up.

  • @number9er1
    @number9er1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crisp, clean visuals - charming innocence and persistence - and a pretty cute dog !
    your editing is pretty good too.

  • @TomWylie
    @TomWylie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As others have said, I would check into running the electrical through a normal submersible pump control box instead of just plugging it straight into the generator. That will have the capacitor in it to help the pump start. Check with your pump supplier for what would work with your 2-wire pump, but that's at least the case on the three-wire pumps I've worked with.

  • @glenlevenhagen8967
    @glenlevenhagen8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the sound effects when tightening! True mountain man!
    😄

  • @mikej1389
    @mikej1389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lots of hard work, love seeing the whole family working on their dream. Each adventure a learning opertunity for everyone (including us) best thing with doing it your self you understand and know how it went together and and repair it in the future. Keep smiling.

  • @lynnebeattie4829
    @lynnebeattie4829 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ya'll are amazing! Love seeing your beautiful family working together to build family home/life!!

  • @mattpastell3728
    @mattpastell3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG, trying to uncoil the pipe on a cold day is so much fun!

  • @jonthepain11
    @jonthepain11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My first thought was "needs a hard start capacitor" because my background is in HVAC. It did not occur to me that more watts from the generator would do it, but it should have. My brain just doesn't work like it used to. Like most issues, persistence solved it. Well done.

  • @TheRutherford1963
    @TheRutherford1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations, cant do without that water. Such a big leap on the homestead.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @jimyeats
      @jimyeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you have Brawndo: The Thirst Mutilator.

  • @JSNMSR
    @JSNMSR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you got running water on your homestead! Been watching since the beginning and I felt just as frustrated as you were with the hand dug attempts. Love you guys, Love the content, Keep up the good work!

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello from South Florida. The take away here is you got the pump running. Your generator is trying to start the pump but couldn't sustain the long draw amps and shutdown. Generators usually have a "peak rating" . That Predator has 3500 Watts Peak...that is 29 Amps (run @ 25 A). You were drawing 32-36A. The other generator will peak @ 6250W = 52A and run @ 5000W=41A. Watts = Volts x Amps

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Lou Cinci Thanks for your input. I appreciate you taking the time to give it. Hope you have a really great day and keepsm:)ing!

  • @dereckconnors9108
    @dereckconnors9108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fire burns up, that’s why we can have fires on lakes when we go ice fishing lol

  • @keithosterkamp6207
    @keithosterkamp6207 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Most likely it needed extra amps for longer than the inverters surge amp cycle time. The small gen probably was enough run amps but not starting amps. Now that the system is primed it might keep up.

  • @zekefoonman2921
    @zekefoonman2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That made me tired just watching you guys. But, the great satisfaction you get having done a great job...priceless.

  • @JhaeMo777
    @JhaeMo777 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been MIA for a long time now. Looks like a lot has been going on. Glad you got a working well.

  • @williambates6811
    @williambates6811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The well driller/pump installers have always installed check valve at the pump and half way up the pipe for the different wells I have drilled or had to replace pumps in. I would suggest more torque arrestors on the pipe every 50' is what the well driller recommended. Keep pumping the water until it clears up and make sure you treat since the well you pulled the pipe several times and introduced biological contaminates to the well. The place that sold you the pump should be able to tell you what to use.

  • @consaka1
    @consaka1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got so tired of putting my pump in and out of the well I just started putting them in 55 gallon barrel first.

  • @wvwildlifecam9159
    @wvwildlifecam9159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you finally put you amp meter just on the red wire.

  • @skipproctor8979
    @skipproctor8979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I run my home well pump on an indoor 40 amp circuit breaker. So the bigger generator amperage is the answer. Glad you got it set up.

  • @mattheusstrydom3249
    @mattheusstrydom3249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I tie a sky rope on my pump to pull the pump out instead of pulling on the pump pipe and electrical wire.

    • @001deathstar
      @001deathstar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you use a sky hook on it?

  • @andrewvalenta7320
    @andrewvalenta7320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Should have had them take a scoop out for you with their track hie before they left. For your pitless

  • @mowingtrimmingedging214
    @mowingtrimmingedging214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I admire all of your positive attitudes!

  • @reno5948
    @reno5948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Martin, I have to give it you, you have chops to attempt a job like that in the middle of winter! Great job!

  • @pdaddyblake
    @pdaddyblake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Only one thing you forget on pumps that deep we use cable guards to keep the wire from rubbing on the case I seen many times the pump still good but had wire rub but most of the time it's already 15 20 year old so we just replace it all😁👍👍

    • @larryray4811
      @larryray4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't belive the depth part. a 1/2 to 3/4 hp pump will never get water to top at 500ft.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larryray4811 The way I understood this, the water head is only 90 feet, never mind how deep the well may be. But I do agree that 1/2 HP sounds too small to be able to deliver any kind of useful flow.

    • @larryray4811
      @larryray4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@engineerinnewyork I thought i saw when drilling that the went to 600 and then back up to 500. They showed a chart, but i could be mistaken.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larryray4811 At minute 14:56, give or take, he says that the static water level is 94 feet. The well and the pump are deeper, but all that counts is the water head, since the pump won’t make any effort to push the water up until it reaches the surface at -94 feet.

    • @engineerinnewyork
      @engineerinnewyork 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@larryray4811 Also, at 18:10, he says that pipe is 196 feet. It follows that pump is at approx. -196 ft., very far from the well bottom, but irrelevant because it’s only the water head that counts.

  • @waynezoll3190
    @waynezoll3190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Keep running the pump the water will clear up it took 2 days for mine.

  • @NickOvchinnikov
    @NickOvchinnikov 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! I'm glad you got some advice and figured it out. I also noticed you guys switched the amp meter to one leg on your cable to get an accurate reading

  • @fleshtonegolem
    @fleshtonegolem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the Idaho hat and then saw Badger on your Tyvek. I grew up in Sandpoint! My dad is a contractor. I thought those trees seemed familiar. :) My parents had to drill 450' out near Clark Fork to hit good water.

  • @kellybell9235
    @kellybell9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you use the clamp on amp meter you should only be around either the hot leg or the neutral but not both and not the ground either

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I read that as "Wife is happy that husband isn't" I was like "typical"...
    Glad to see i was wrong and forgot to how to read..... Good luck!!

  • @randyfredricksen5963
    @randyfredricksen5963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I learn from watching all your channel and others will be invaluable when I start building next year..figuring out the best way to do something is a great resource you guys provide. Thanks for sharing it!

  • @gsftom
    @gsftom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bet it was a big relief when the pump finally started. Jules does a great job being cute 😀

  • @MakersMovementDIY
    @MakersMovementDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bummer that the water is so muddy, looking forward to seeing how you tackle that obstacle.

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too! 😂

    • @MakersMovementDIY
      @MakersMovementDIY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliejohnson9531 Oh no, I thought that you already had a plan. now I'm really nervous.

    • @bestman7776
      @bestman7776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliejohnson9531 when they put in my pump, they ran it for 24 hours to clear it up

    • @bustedford
      @bustedford 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Julie Johnson it took weeks for our water to clear up running it all day long everyday but we did have the nicest grass that year, we hooked it to 3 sprinklers to go at the same time. They ran directly from the pump as we didnt hook it to a pressure tank til it cleared up🙂

  • @ahmedkhalid1071
    @ahmedkhalid1071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Congratulations,
    The color of the first water is not too brown and that's a good indicator! Just let the pump work for 2 hours and you will get a very clean water. 👌

  • @cliffodell8593
    @cliffodell8593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New wells usually need to be pumped for several hours to clean out the drilling trailings and get the water cleaned up.

  • @michaelpaton8818
    @michaelpaton8818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m glad you figured it out. I was buying a generator for my compressor and had to check the watts and make sure it was big enough. Amps x voltage =watts. I’m not an electrician but I know that equation.

  • @sarahmannluker7528
    @sarahmannluker7528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your determination is admirable.
    Marty, when you said that about Julie's job being cute was hard, I cringed. Good save though. Julie your expression was priceless 😂

  • @TheNorsewoman
    @TheNorsewoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really enjoyed watching this one, you guys sure kept your cool.

  • @ManWithaPlan1658
    @ManWithaPlan1658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job sharing the pain with us! That’s what really makes it informative 👍

  • @sirbuleletideas1137
    @sirbuleletideas1137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Working together gives everyone the opportunity to know how to install and fix water pump..

  • @budjones3296
    @budjones3296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You need a bigger generator! Also, the well needs to run much longer to eliminate brown water.

    • @pstibbs
      @pstibbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      correct Bud!

  • @thehungryhunter3454
    @thehungryhunter3454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    use your torch and heat the inside of the pipe not the outside.

  • @carmenrivera9187
    @carmenrivera9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know why but have watched all your videos and I'm rotting for you I admire your calmness and your wife is great support good luck in your new home

  • @christhompson6216
    @christhompson6216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have to be honest when i came across a random video of yours i thought id scroll past it like alot i do....watched one and im hooked !!!! keep up the hard work from the UK

  • @barkyharrington
    @barkyharrington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I died on the inside 3 times while watching this. Pretty sure I'll never be the same again.

  • @basherrasheed5844
    @basherrasheed5844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My grandfather dug a well in our house using his hands and we have been using it for many years, although he did not dig much at first, it had a lot of mud, and then the water quality became excellent ... for the information Our house well in Syria so everything differs

  • @mrmcclung
    @mrmcclung 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Fun !!
    Something to keep in mind for spring, run your wire in some plastic ( ie; PVC, Pecs whichever is cheaper).. it'll protect wire and later you can pull/add remote start wires for the generator (in the pumphouse) from the house... ( a nice back-up).
    Stay Safe

  • @jackbn9353
    @jackbn9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used spacers around the downpipe, every 15 or 20 feet, to keep the well wires from rubbing and sanding off the insulation.

  • @LivingTheDreamHomestead.
    @LivingTheDreamHomestead. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🙋‍♂️ lol
    When you plugged it into that 3500watt, I had a feeling it wouldn’t pump.
    We had the same issue.
    We have a 9500watt just for our well.
    Be careful at startup to always have the valve open, otherwise you can “deadhead” the pump.
    That’s what we were told.
    So glad you got it pumping, now to clean some water 😛
    .....wait that doesn’t sound right 😜

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We are glad too. What size is your pump?

    • @juliejohnson9531
      @juliejohnson9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @LivingTheDreamHomestead.
      @LivingTheDreamHomestead. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving ours is a 3/4 horse I think.
      Homestead rescue had it installed. I know it takes a 30amp breaker.
      We pull close to 20 gal a minute.

  • @josephgould3832
    @josephgould3832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best suggestion to avoid the rusty water issues is : Do NOT Allow them to install the Steel/Iron casing. use PVC instead. 1.) It eliminates the dirty rust water. 2.) It reduces the risk of pump and pipe loss due to lightening strikes burning holes in the metal pipes and damaging the pump. Cleaner water and far less issues down the road. BTW: the PVC Pitiless installation would have been far easier as well. Lessons I did not have to learn the hard way. (We have and old 750 foot Steel/iron well on the farm; dirty water and pipe/pump burn out every couple of years. At least use PVC down pipes, (these are not like the tubing used in this video but rather PVC Pipes manufactured especially for use in wells. They are threaded and install the same as regular 20 foot length steel well down pipes). PVC casings cannot be driven down like steel casings can be so they must be drilled in by a qualified well driller and then properly grouted.

    • @aindreascinead7370
      @aindreascinead7370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! My name is Andrew and I work for McCullough and Sons Well Drilling.
      So the issue of steel vs PVC casing and dirty rust water are not related. That dirty rust water is caused by iron in the water, not the steel the casing. This iron in the water comes from deep down in bedrock or wherever your water is located underground. It’s a mineral that is present in the water whether it’s PVC or steel casing. If there is an orange goopy sloppy gross stuff on the outside of that pipe that you pulled out of the well (that’s called drop pipe), you have what is called “iron bacteria”. It’s a bacteria that gets in the well and feeds on that iron mineral in the water. If that gets inside your pipes it can stop everything up :)
      There are also situations where we can’t use PVC drop pipe. PVC drop pipe is used for shallow wells that don’t have a submersible motor above 1/2HP. A 3/4HP pump is pushing the capacity and strength of PVC pipe. The other problem with putting PVC drop pipe down a deep well with a pump larger than a 1/2HP is that when that 3/4HP pump fires up, it generates a massive amount of torque which whips the bendy flexible PVC pipe around inside the well. That can cause your wire to get split or severed. Deep settings generally use steel for this reason.
      That’s quite a deep well you have :) 750 feet deep is no joke.

    • @josephgould3832
      @josephgould3832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aindreascinead7370 What happens with regularity on our 750 deep well is that a lightning strike anywhere near, say within 1200 feet will run through top soil to the well casing while burning holes in the drop pipes and cooking anything in the upper 25 feet of water within the casing to a blackened sludge. The common practice of disinfecting the well does nothing to change this issue. (I'm pretty darn certain the iron is leaching out of the rusty casing walls regardless of what you say.) 750 feet of rusty casings is no joke. In Northern Minnesota known for iron water our PVC well casing only runs 150 feet deep and the drop pipe is also all threaded PVC 100 feet deep. We haven had iron water, bacteria, or lighting, or pump issues with this well, not since the day it was put online 30 years ago. I may NOT be a well driller; I do know what works far better.

    • @ElRipper100
      @ElRipper100 ปีที่แล้ว

      I decide to run stell casing vs ovc, in case I ever wanted to go deeper or any work in the hole it would be protected. There are supposed to be 2 more zones of water below my current 104 to 140. One at 250 and one at 300. If at some time inthe future, my family or kids need to go to a deeper zone, a drilll string can right down the casing, but not on PVC in would tear it up and a guy would lose his well.

  • @Bradannas1
    @Bradannas1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My well sit for 6 years because I switched to city water. I pulled pump installed a constant pressure system for irrigation and the water looked just like that. I pumped it for 6 hours straight and it’s crystal clear now. My well isn’t nearly as deep as yours it’s 215ft and was drilled in 1964 replenish rate is 75gpm it fed 6 chicken houses , 4 residential homes and a barn at one time. Very blessed to have it I just hope it keeps producing and the casing doesn’t rust. Keep pumping!

  • @Martyr217
    @Martyr217 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the use of diagrams. We don't really needs pumps or wells here in Scotland so I've never seen them being installed before.

  • @VaderWhoop
    @VaderWhoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Why would you not test run the pump in a barrel of water before going to all the effort of fitting it down the well pipe?

    • @rorypike1541
      @rorypike1541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excitement? Enthusiasm? I've done similar with appliance electrical repair jobs. Hahaha.

  • @jackoalltrades5708
    @jackoalltrades5708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    a motor takes more watts to start than it takes to run, like almost 10 times

    • @MarkSDCA
      @MarkSDCA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Called lock rotor current. Be prepared.

    • @davidd5523
      @davidd5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello starting current. although that's a long surge for a pump that small. Edit: watched further... because it wasn't starting.

    • @RSole9999
      @RSole9999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MarkSDCA LRC is when the rotor is unable to turn. Starting current is a little different.

    • @akyhne
      @akyhne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A hard working 3 phase engine, takes 4-6 times its rated power to start. More than that and it will barely be able to start.
      10 times is unheard off.

    • @davidd5523
      @davidd5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed and the lower multiple, obviously it depends on the machine

  • @charlesdavis5772
    @charlesdavis5772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it will work! You guys have put so much labor into this. It has got to work!

  • @TomWylie
    @TomWylie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats on the well!!! That is so awesome, and 10 GPM is certainly nothing to complain about. Glad your static water level is not all that low either. Definitely doable for a backup hand pump like the Apocalypse Well Pump.
    I would guess that once you've run several hundred gallons worth of water from the well, it very likely should clean up and not be so dirty. That was definitely the case for ours that we drilled in spirit lake, as well as our neighbor's. They had to run thousands of gallons through it to get clear water, but it finally did clear up and was awesome once it did.

  • @kb5hxt
    @kb5hxt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a retired Well service worker, I can empathize with you. Pulling a new pump because it does not work is not any fun. I praise you for working in the freezing snow/ice. I can't believe that the well driller did not leave you a "pitless" adapter already installed. I have placed one pump that ran on solar, had a charging system and a battery, ran on 12 volts d.c. The second pump will work, I watched you install the first and you did everything correctly. Good luck with the pump.

    • @littlemechanicshop
      @littlemechanicshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with your solar pump. I do think he did a good job putting in the pump. I would have used 1 or 2 more torque arrestors, and 3 flat pump wire and some super 88. And I love the green pipe tape it’s the best. And I would have put some Corine tablets down the well. But that’s just me. I hope it all works out for them.

  • @sandrahmurphy
    @sandrahmurphy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job xx

  • @juliejohnson9531
    @juliejohnson9531 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So happy to get water out of that hole! Now just need to get it clean! 😃

  • @abe677
    @abe677 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. Many years ago a neighbor of mine thought it would be a good idea to sink our own shallow wells for irrigation. Much easier job that yours but it was still a difficult 2 weekends to sink 4 wells (for 4 homes). Your video brought back some good memories.

  • @thtadthtshldntbe
    @thtadthtshldntbe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    until you get the wellhouse with the purifying system set up, you can purify the water with a still (the thing you make moonshine and other alcoholic beverages with)

    • @michaelrunk5930
      @michaelrunk5930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or they can go right to home depot and just connect water purifier direct to there kitchen faucet.
      The water should be fine for shower and what not.

    • @thtadthtshldntbe
      @thtadthtshldntbe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelrunk5930 I don't disagree but the still could be repurposed for other means later.

    • @robertbizzarro8586
      @robertbizzarro8586 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd just drink the water when it comes out of the faucet. We drink rain water and well water all the time. No cancer in my family.... No factory chemical water for us. You need the microscopic rock for good health. Purifying water is for townies...

  • @basherrasheed5844
    @basherrasheed5844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's cool, at least there's water

  • @MrAcacio
    @MrAcacio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved seeing you and your family work together on your projects. God bless you all, great videos and I will follow you. The only thing I don't like is the cold weather but this is a gorgeous place. congrats.

  • @Spinonemaster
    @Spinonemaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always nice when the well guys dig you a trench for the pitless adapter install while they have a machine there, or install it before they lower the last section down 4 ft ... but after 4 long days they may have forgotten ... and yea, even 110v well pump need a large generator ... that pump has to work hard to get that column of water up 500 ft ... they pull a lot of juice, especially on start up ... too little juice and they overheat, causing thermal shut down ... glad you solved the issue ... all part of the well learning curve .... most 230 v systems require a control box to modulate and protect motor and circuits

  • @rhett7337
    @rhett7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Keep pumping. It'll clear up.

    • @andrewslagle1974
      @andrewslagle1974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dump a couple jugs of bleach down the well also.could be iron hope not

    • @BenCos2018
      @BenCos2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewslagle1974 putting bleach down a well isn't a good idea tbh

  • @lenrsmith
    @lenrsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice work! It’s always nice when a hard job ends in success. I was interested to see the pitless adapter install. I did not use it for my well, but I am in a warmer climate. If you ever have to pull that pump (now that it has the added weight of 196’ of water in the stand pipe) look into making a trolley/roller system. Basically, take an old wheel rim and rig it up to rotate on a stand next to the wellhead. You can then pull the pump out with a tractor or truck by letting the pipe roll over the wheel. It keeps the pipe from kinking as you pull it up and over the head of the casing. It also prevents scraping the wire on the casing. It will save your back, too.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a great idea. I’ll do it next time we pull the pump.

    • @lenrsmith
      @lenrsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just make sure you always have someone watching so that you don’t get things tangled up and break something. Also, make sure you have the cables, rope, and pipe all tied up when you start tugging. The cable may want to slide down and make a big ball...ask me how I now.

    • @isfanromeo
      @isfanromeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In fact, you only pull the weight of 94 ft pipe and the water in it, plus the weight of the pump. The rest of it is canceled by the external pressure of water.

    • @lenrsmith
      @lenrsmith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True enough, but I have not found it to help in practice. Some of that may be drag on the sides if the pipe. My deepest well was 275ft with the head at 35ft. It was terribly hard to pull the pump.

    • @isfanromeo
      @isfanromeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lenrsmith How about 416 ft with 301 ft above the surface of water at the weel i just installed it?
      You don't want to be arround when it needs to be pulled out!

  • @ianiskandar4165
    @ianiskandar4165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kangen sama keluarga ini.. hope you always in great health.. God bless Mr Martin and Family

  • @tomrandall4871
    @tomrandall4871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice details! I went through a drilled well back in 1997. I was lucky to have a Native American use a divining rod, actually two of them to locate a drilling site. 105 ft. I decided to use a 230 V. A. C. 5.9 amp 1/2 hp gould pump. Most sinewave inverters won't start a 2 wire pump. I used 10 gauge wire. But a 4kw genrac generator started it. Locked rotor amps was 35 amps. But my home was 450 ft. Away. Finally I bought a Trace SW4024 sinewave inverter and a 2kw 120v to 240v transformer and wired the pressure switch to a 60 amp relay that controlled the transformer so you would not be wasting losses running the transformer with no load. Now on the inverter output surge the amp draw of the well pump was 60 amp for a split second because the inverter was 120 volt then going through the transformer then to the pump. If I had a 120 volt pump it would not have worked with that distance with only 10 gauge wire. Maybe 2 gauge...

  • @kevinbrewer2141
    @kevinbrewer2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would recommend putting a lot more spacer's for the pipe in the casing. I have mine every thirty feet now and taped the wire to it every four feet. With the pump turning on and off the pipe will shake or twist it wore the wires off my dad's and this happened on my pump. I does take years for this to happen it's better put the guards on now than to have to buy copper wire again.

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great idea

    • @kevinbrewer2141
      @kevinbrewer2141 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving just wanted to let you know so you don't have to put the pump wondering why you don't have water. Copper wire i only going to keep going up.

  • @mattpastell3728
    @mattpastell3728 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The problem is you don’t get good at something until after you’ve already done it!

  • @flyingwyoming5184
    @flyingwyoming5184 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will clear the more you run it. I have an off grid place in NW Wyoming and its a little cloudy when I first get there but clears up after awhile and continues to get better every year.

  • @PaulSmith-gf6nr
    @PaulSmith-gf6nr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never watched your channel before, but yall are really nice people. Wish everybody well from Texas.

  • @marshasmith6320
    @marshasmith6320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    ✋🏻 that’s what I was saying. Like you could hear me lol. The generator ain’t big enough!! Lol

  • @dper1112
    @dper1112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think it's gonna work!
    Update: Well, then. As a note for future troubleshooting, the time-saving step you missed is ... testing the second pump before install. Also, I'm curious what the electrical specs are on the well. We know that many high-draw appliances (e.g., table saws and refrigerators) have a massive surge at start-up. Did the pump come with that information, or was it only labeled as 1200W?

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It didn’t say the LRA or start up amps. Wish it did that would have need helpful.

    • @arnoldromppai5395
      @arnoldromppai5395 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      all the 110 volt pumps use a 15 amp braker, that much more then it needs, a 1 hp 220 volt also uses a 15 amp, that 110 volt will use 8 amps at start, and run on 5

  • @maddoxtom
    @maddoxtom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really interesting, we have just dug our bore hole on our campsite in the Uk. Got all of this to come. :)

  • @optroncordian7863
    @optroncordian7863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was going to tell you to check the voltage also to see if the generator gives enough power. However, you figured it out.
    Nice looking water ... (chuckling)

  • @FALALEX2024
    @FALALEX2024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    need capacitor bank for start, after stabilize system hello fron Brazil keep job thank you

    • @PAKOREGON
      @PAKOREGON 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      talk to your pump vendor and ask about a "soft start" option.

    • @ricklearned1686
      @ricklearned1686 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PAKOREGON Yup

  • @joesnuffy1961
    @joesnuffy1961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    👍motors always draw higher when they start

  • @shawnharvey7706
    @shawnharvey7706 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello from Arizona 100% off grid Homestead and ranch thanks for the great content

  • @bigbrownhat9497
    @bigbrownhat9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lived on a farm in Minnesota where we had a variety of animals. keeping water troughs open in temps below -10f can be a challenge. The thing that worked best for us was using a small submersible "water fountain" type pump. I bought them online or at the end of the season for less than $20. They would keep the water in the tanks moving and prevented freezing. We had a submersible ring tank heater but a horse burned it's lips once and the heater went away. Like you, we also had 2 wells, one deep and one sand-point. Our sand-point well had a pressure tank buried about 5 feet down to help prevent freezing. regardless, the water source went dry each winter and we had to haul water on a sled to the horses. Good luck with the temps.

  • @johnstreet819
    @johnstreet819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    F.Y.I. Grundfos makes soft start pumps which eliminate a bunch of problems.

    • @TedSpider2023
      @TedSpider2023 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Grundfos has always been my go to. They also stand up to all kinds of contamination and weird pH and remediation additives in my environmental remediation/extraction wells.

    • @istvanmeissler2238
      @istvanmeissler2238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the info. Like a lot of products made today, a few brands really try to stick with top quality materials and quality assembly, and some are a collection of import parts thrown together. It is helpful to know what is a good reliable brand, especially with something like a well pump. Thank again because I will be buying a new pump this summer.

    • @WannamakerWorks
      @WannamakerWorks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grundfos is usually stainless steel and you don't wanna use it when you have high iron

  • @roaridse
    @roaridse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know your generator, but since it is revving up quite a bit when you plug in the pump, I would guess it is in eco-mode. Turn that off, so it is running at a much higher RPM before you plug the pump in.. Then it might work with the small one.

  • @TaitGuy
    @TaitGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    GREAT TEAM WORK!!! Thanks for sharing...

  • @jaimef2674
    @jaimef2674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a happy thing !...you can have water now ! Enjoy ! Jaime from Houston, Texas

  • @kenwillis8487
    @kenwillis8487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You have to wire it into a capacitor! It stores electricity for startup as initial load is high!

    • @richardriehle4159
      @richardriehle4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i figured the same.

    • @DL-tp2nr
      @DL-tp2nr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not ever done

    • @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving
      @MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is wired correctly. It is a 2 wire pump. The cap is in the pump motor. 3 wire pumps have a cap in a control box. But I’ll look into it.

    • @richardriehle4159
      @richardriehle4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving oh, ok.

    • @kenwillis8487
      @kenwillis8487 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MartinJohnsonOffGridLiving ok ours is three wire and runs from breaker box to capacitor and then pump ! And every time we lost water it was in the capacitor! Cheap China electronics lol not really lol

  • @MrBoo1963
    @MrBoo1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Reminds me of Korea 1967 winter. Ground so frozen that we could barely chip it.

    • @turgor58
      @turgor58 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the days of our siege of Stalingrad... we hardly had any drinkable water but ice.

    • @drengr2759
      @drengr2759 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of 6 months every year. You haven't seen frozen ground since 1967?

    • @map1537
      @map1537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We used to stack them and use them as sandbags

  • @OccamsRazor71
    @OccamsRazor71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t know how you all work so hard all the time, but great video on installing a well pump.

  • @captainkepcon8194
    @captainkepcon8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your perseverance, determination, and lack of throwing cursing fits absolutely amazes me. I have watched your vids from time to time and this time I subscribed (and rang the bell for the first time ever. I'm not realty sure what that does-I'm old). Your sense of frustration is hopefully more than compensated for when you overcome a problem such as you did here. I am a self employed renovation contractor and have to work through similar stonewalls so I feel your pain and your satisfaction. This is an amazing adventure you all are on. I only wish I had the resources and youth to try something like this. Best of luck to you all. PS never underestimate the reinvigorating power of the smile and encouragement of a beautiful,sweet, woman. That's something you can't pick up at the hardware store. Having a good dog along doesn't hurt either. I'll bet sometimes you'd like to trade places with the dog and fetch sticks while the dog digs the frozen ground.

  • @williamdebow3478
    @williamdebow3478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the pump is really pulling that many amps, the wire is sized too small for that length. ALWAYS test your pump in a barrel or tub of water up top before installing to make sure it works. Could have saved yourself returning a perfectly good pump and wasting a lot of time redoing everything. Very interesting but too many adds. Keep up the good work.

    • @RRaucina
      @RRaucina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The wire is fine, those are starting amps on the starting windings. It is normal, except with an undersized genset the pump stays in start mode and thus the high amps.

  • @jamesshanks2614
    @jamesshanks2614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not uncommon when you first start you well. Buddy of mine ran his well for four days before it cleared up.

  • @mindi.m
    @mindi.m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great news for the homestead! Congrats! It was touch and go there for a while. I'm glad you got it figured out. Oh, and congrats on your new generator! 😁

  • @tunintunin3417
    @tunintunin3417 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys did it, i thought it would have been a frozen check valve. Kudos

  • @Frostytravels
    @Frostytravels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watts and amps. There is a formula for the conversion. You need to understand the ratio of wattage and amperage. Glad the larger generator worked.

    • @av1204
      @av1204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty easy one... volts x amps = wattage.... watts / volts = amps

  • @patrickhall7439
    @patrickhall7439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you start up a centrifugal pump for the first time, it has almost no back-pressure to overcome as the discharge pipe is empty. This means that for a short period of time (as the pipe fills) the flowrate that the pump is delivering will be very high. The motor current is more-or-less proportional to the volumetric flow through the pump and will therefore be very high until there is some back pressure and the flowrate significantly falls. When you are down to a normal operating flowrate then the motor current will be a lot less.
    As an aside, it is not well known that when you run a centrifugal pump against a closed valve then the motor current falls to a minimum, when you open up the valve then the flow gets going and the motor current goes up.

  • @KoalityofLife
    @KoalityofLife 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are getting a workout. Nice to see water coming out of the well. One step closer. :)