I've probably watched 20 reviews/comparisons of similar large 4k TV's before buying the TCL. This is by far the most comprehensive and educational. Especially the part about "crushing" the black levels. That Hisense is a no go just for that reason imo. I owe this channel and Rtings a big thank you!
I have had two Hisense TV's both had the red light of death within one year of ownership. I will never buy Hisense again. TCL is a great, budget friendly TV
With regards to the crushing of black detail, that happens if the local dimming is set to anything above Low on the Hisense H8F. For whatever reason Hisense has the local dimming be very aggressive at Medium and High and this causes black detail to be crushed. Also, the TV does not automatically tone map HDR fairly well when using a Video Game Console like an Xbox One X (unlike Roku TV OS which automatically tone maps up to 4,000 nits regardless of whether the device sends any HDR metadata or not). But you can get the Hisense H8F to tone map up to 3,700 nits by dropping Contrast to 42 for video game consoles. The internal apps of the TV appear to not have any issue with tone mapping and of course Dolby Vision has no issues with delivering bright specular highlight detail due to it's proprietary dynamic metadata. With the Hisense H8F you will not want to use Game Mode HDR for playing Games in HDR because it will introduce some serious color banding. Not sure what is going on there but Hisense definitely needs to patch that. You will want to use the Theater HDR picture mode (as it gets rid of the color banding present in the Game Mode HDR picture mode) and make sure to turn off any Motion Enhancements. Film Mode will be enabled by default and even though it doesn't do anything with a 60hz signal it will add some noticeable input lag. I would say that between Game Mode HDR and Theater HDR the input lag doubles (maybe). Other reviews pegged the input lag between 15ms - 17ms with Game Mode. Without Game Mode the input lag feels like it's around 30ms (give or take a few ms).
My 55 inch Samsung 4K Oled is now in my bedroom. The 75 inch TCL 4k now in the living room. Samsung a slight winner because of its Oled. But the 75 inch TCL BAM!!! ❤️
As far as the feet length problem of these TVs, you can buy an universal vesa mount center stand that’s maybe only 15-20 inches to fit on smaller TV stands. You can find these on Amazon and at BB, or similar stores. Just make sure you buy one that supports the size of your TV. Problem solved. Ironically my Sony Z9D comes with a small center stand which I don’t use since it’s wall mounted. I don’t know why TV manufacturers moved away from these center stands to the long, ugly feet on the edges of these new TVs. These center stands usually cost around $35-$50, TV size depending. I bought one to solve this problem on my secondary TV, TCL 55” 615 in my bedroom. With the distance between the legs it would have never fit and the 55” version of the TCL 6 was the smallest size available. No issues, holds the TV well and completely balanced with no wobble if even touched or trying to shake it on purpose. I have complete confidence in these center stands.
agreed. just connect a bluetooth controller if you dont like lag, problem solved. plus the extensive play store apps really takes the cake over the ultra basic roku in my eyes. And dont get me started on the roku remote lol
I just like the production and the transitions as he speaks. So smooth and less fluff, just straight to the point and tips here and there. And points where if you don't like this and not over energetic or anything. Super casual and not boring. Should have a podcast.
I wish l would have watched this video before l ordered the Hisense today it's due tomorrow after your review l may be returning or exchanging . Thank for the good work.
I'd hold off. Tcl is about to release a new 6 series sometime this month to retail and Hisense also has a version higher than the TV in this review which is admittedly a lot better.
That tv is a piece of shit mines went up after 14 months my mother went up n 18 months both 55s my niece went up after 11 months the picture n everything was good it don’t last long u saved ur money
The $55" H8F is only $350 now which makes it by the best sub $400 TV you can get. If you're on a tight budget it's a great option, and they have the 50" currently for $310 now too.
I got burned by an online retailer scam while trying to buy a 65” LG OLED C8 for $1,500 (yeah, I know). In my frustration, I decided to take that money to Best Buy and get the best-looking large TV I could buy for that amount. I ended up actually spending a little less, on the TCL 6-series 75”, and I couldn’t be happier. The picture is fantastic, and Caleb is right about the Roku OS. He didn’t mention this, but it also sounds great, for people who don’t have any audio home theater stuff. I watched this TV for a few weeks before my audio system came in, and I would’ve been perfectly happy just using the TCL’s speakers (though I have to admit that having a subwoofer under my couch is way cool).
Honestly I'll wait for TCL 8 series due later this year. It will be better and 75"+. So for those who want 85", this is definitely the way to go. TCL prices drop after 6months.
Processing on the TCL is worlds better, the hisense is soft in the details while the TCL is sharp! Really want to see it side by side with the 75x950G that they have
not really depends on the source materials 4k hdr looks equally as good on both but I must say the Hisense color and black levels looks better then the tcl
i would have backed down the color setting on the hi-sense just a smidge. also the contrast setting on the hi sense was at least a couple of smidges too much. as you say, it blacked out some of the information in the picture. and it's the information that we really want.
Just purchased today my TCL 65inch 6 series for $339 can wait to messed around with it. Heading out to Best Buy as we speak. The bad part is that I need to drive near 40 miles to LA. lol
Just purchased the new Hisense H9G 65". So far it's an amazing television with a premium feel...and that's coming from a brand snob. Wonder how it would stack up to the TCL 6 series??? 🤔.
You guys should try a battle between TCL 2019 series 6 (R625 and R627) vs Hisense h9F both of are about to be released the h9F will be released in USA according to Hisense
not that obvious for the price the Hisense is the winner and black levels and color accuracy as well
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@@marcfavell Not sure what youre smoking. Hisense H9E / H9F is what competes with the TCL 6, yet its $200 more. Also every reviewer has said that Hisense color is inaccurate pre-calibration. I havent seen a single reviewer prefer Hisense over TCL that wasnt a "sponsor" reviewer. Hisense is literally paying people to say good things about their TVs. TCL isnt. Pretty clear who is making a better product--TCL.
@on the street the Hisense can be had for for cheaper the the tcl I'm in Canada and the Hisense is at factory direct for $479.99 the tcl is $ 699.99 but at the same time I would buy the tv with roku built in any day of the week(as I said in my other comments) , I thought this was the Hisense with roku my bad. in my bedroom i have the 50 inch Hisense R7 with roku and it the best value 50 last year with hdr, not the brightest tv but great black levels and very accurate color
@the new Hisense that's com.ing out seems interesting though we will see ....I. going to get a new tv for the living room I just have to decide if I'm going to go big and sacrifice some picture quality with this tcl 75 inch or go with the same size I have now (55 inch) and go get a LG OLED 🤷♂️ not sure yet so many decisions lol or do o get the 65 inch Vizio Quantum from last year 65 inch??? I will figure it out in the next month though, cheers man from Canada ( BTW I do not smoke shit) 😂😂😂
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@@marcfavell there you go.. Youre in Canada. Im not talking to people as if they are in Canada. End of story. No one cares about Canadian prices vs US prices.
The Hisense is not calibrated. The orange should be red. Properly calibrated will blow that tcl out of water. H8F can look as good as OLED. Just bought the 55 inch for $400. the hisense legs can be mounted inward for smaller stand, it's a Google tv and has real remote not a kids remote.
@@dannyvang1990 I use either Vivid or hdr vivid depending on the source. It automatically selects hdr vivid if the video is hdr and switches to vivid automatically if non hdr video, but both settings look good. My settings are below: Picture: vivid or hdr vivid Backlight: 100 Contrast: 100 Brightness: 45 Color: 45 Tint: 0 Sharpness: 15 Advanced settings Color temp: high Motion adjust: custom judder: 8 blur reduction: 8 Noise reduction: high Digital noise reduction: high Active contrast: high Gamma: 2 Color: Auto Boost color blue and yellow saturation and brightness by 2 or to your liking. Let me know how it looks.
Love my h8f 55”, the local array dimming does have a halo effect that’s kinda annoying but the HDR and 4K on xbox1X is badass. Had the hdr flickering issue a few times but only when the picture is bright white but either way I don’t care, for $400 this baby is good enough
This comparison seems a little strange now because the R617 is still selling for around $530-$570 and the Hisense H8F is on Amazon right now for $398. A better comparison would have been the H9F maybe. I think the TCL in this video is somewhat better in most cases, but not for another $150 or so, the H8F wins the price/performance ration at the end of 2019 IMO.
Dosn't the Hisense actually allow you to mount the feet in two different locations? Near the edges OR furthe in the middle? Therefore making it even better than TCL's reversing option?
Agreed. I have been waiting for real reviews for that TV for weeks. That is the next TV to be reviewed by Rtings. So we will have a good review on it very soon.
I have the H8F from a replacement of a warranty in July 2019 and buyer beware: within just a week of having ours we had to call Hisense to have them send parts out and wait over a week to have it fixed. The power supply failed which is extremely common as I read with these TVs. As mentioned also the Android OS is BAD! It's slow on response and regularly just forces back to the home screen. We have exceptional internet and I don't say that lightly, we pay for it. Hulu, TH-cam, Disney Plus and even Netflix all suddenly stop and go to home. Not just that but the TV will suddenly stop and restart itself. Sadly they skimped on the hardware side. We are gamers with consoles and PCs. The Hisense has a beautiful TV but after being absolutely frustrated out of the gate: I cannot recommend another Hisense product for my family.
It's odd the TCL shows a better green than the Hisense. When compared now in several stores the green on the Hisense is way deeper and more vivid which makes me believe this review was set up just to promote TCL...
I'm between this tcl 75 and the Philips 75pus6754, what do recommend in sweden the price between theese two are thesame. Help me. ( for most movie/netflix, ps4 not a sportsfan)
Would rather of seen this TCL against the Sony X950G or samsung Q70R. To see if it's actually comparing to TVs twice the price or if it is truly a budget tv at a budget price.
Can't the issues with Hisense crushing blacks and TCL red and magenta color defects be calibrated away to at least some degree? It would be good to see them compared post-calibration.
Look forward to when you will be able to also compare input lag. On the subject of gaming though, it doesn't have to by shooters. I find the most noticeable difference with input lag is actually felt with pinball games.
Can the built-in Android TV or Roku TV be temporarily disabled or overridden? For example, if I wanted to use a Firestick or Apple TV or some other TV operating system? Last time I used a Roku box was on a non-smart flat screen TV a few years ago. Now, I'm looking to cut the cable and not make an expensive mistake along the way.
What do you think I should get the samsung q70r 75 inch for 2300$ cad or Sony x900 f 75 inch for 2500$ cad or go for the tcl 617 75 inch for 1550$ cad. I mostly use for video games or sports with some tv shows and movies.
Caleb, thanks. Always great reviews. Is the H8E anywhere near H8F- or is it a black friday bait and switch? On that note, you said you would examine the Vizio M-Quantum 70" (MQ6/M706). Is it even an M-Quantum? I just bought and hear it's more comparable to V-series. I am deciding between 70" M-Quantum and Hisense 75" H8E. I am seeing for near the same price. Any suggestions? Im just so worried that these one-off holiday TVs are nothing close to the line they are supposed to represent. Thanks!
I have a " Hisense tv 40eu300. While I am watching it. The SOUND will go to MUTE for no reason. Then I have to turn the TV off and then back on to get the SOUND back. Can you help me with this problem? Awesome video thanks for sharing it.
Just got an H9F and Xbox One X says that HDR 10 video is supported but not HDR gaming. Went into settings on the TV and 'HDMI 2.0 format' is grayed out at 'standard'. The thing is, my Samsung Q70R supported HDR in gaming. Am I missing something?
apparently TCL 6 series, but they have serious quality control issues ( grey banding ) that is very prevalent. When you get a good one it's hands down the best at and slightly above it's price range. But I don't know what is in the $550.00 - 800 dollar price range as I'm not interested in paying that much. Just a note here about Netflix streaming ( because I did the research ). 4k uses 25Mbps and you need to upgrade to their ultra HD which is about $3 per month. As for HDR, yes some shows that get streamed are in HDR but I've read that people aren't seeing a difference.
William Seipp thank you so much for the response. I ended up going with a Samsung 75” 2018 model. I was able to find one for $700 with the holiday deals. It doesn’t have the greatest picture but it was a pretty good deal. Thanks again.
Just a quick update, that Samsung I got ended up not being so great. About a week after it wouldn’t turn on anymore. Long story short, currently back on the hunt. Stuck between Vizio M8, TCL R625, and Hisense H9F. Any further advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
For gaming, you ought to either find someone who does good gaming who is nearby, or make a deal with someone you want to share viewers with, and make some arrangement to do connected videos, e.g., to review the same device at the same time, and link each other.
roku OS on smart TV's is the best and fastest hands down....from my experience pick the one with roku OS can't go wrong with roku build in very good 🤷♂️👍👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@@AIRTIGHT31 not necessarily bud, if you don't have lots of money to spend, and comparing them to tvs in the same class they are very good. take the Hisense R7 for instance not very bright but has a very good picture overall, great color and black levels.
@@flexbox2089 yeah sure there bud roku is way better for a smart tv platform, android smart tv platform is soooooo buggy just look at the sony TV's as a example......the new 8 series TCL is going to be the tv that all try to play catch up with this year.....with 25,000 individual LED'S for it's back light with 1000 zones 65 inch for $2K and with roku. obviously you have zero experience with actual smart tv's if you did you would know better "your a window shopper" pretty bad a under $300 smart tv from TCL, Hisense is smother smoother overall user experience then a $4k+ Sony 🤷♂️
@@richardalexander1838 there isn't a 2019 model. Check the TCL website under 2019 6Series. He's comparing the late 2018 model, which is confused for a 2019 model... I'm pretty sure. (The reason I asked the question was because of the title. It's misleading.) REALLY, what I was wondering is, does the 75" model in this video have the 2019 Quantum Dot tech. (I don't think so.)
@@SirThomasHarber no it does not, it is not a QLED panel. Only the 8 series features quantum dot led for 2018. 2019 6 Series however does have QLED panel but not in the 75inch panel format, only 55 and 65. 2019 model will also have a true 120hz motion sensor unlike the 2018 version which is only 60hz.
Both have 3 year warranty but TCL call centre is in the Philippines and I've have heard there. Is not much support while hicence. Call centre here's in Australia you get the help you neef
Is it best to Buy a Android TV or buy a Android Box to connect to it? I notice Android TVs only come in Hisense, TCL, Phillips TVs, I didn't know if they was good TVs
I think it is better for me to compare on the same size. just for my opinion only...55" of hisense compare to 75" of tcl... For this battle it could win of tcl because of the size
Awesome job but next time include the sound for people like me with hearing loss I need to know I can hear the TV without surroundsound being purchased extra
The peak brightness is a lot more than a minor difference between the 2. The Hisense can only reach about 680nits while the 6 series can reach above 1,000nits so I'd call that a pretty big difference
clearly looks like they're biased towards the TCL and even have the Hisense set up so it's softer. I doubt the Hisense is even running 4K that's how obvious they are about it. They're pretty much identical performers folks. Just get the one that is cheaper.
I would love to see LG C9 vs LG Nano 9 series, for instance should I get a smaller 55-inch C9 (OLED55C9PUA) or a bigger 75-inch Nano 9 TV (75SM9070PUA )for the about same price? like how much better is the oled versus the performance of the nano TV but instead having a much more immersive experience with a huge TV
You can not unlock "Unknown sources" on this TV or the H9F ..I called Tech Support they told me no you can not...told me I could use a external device... there is not mark in the security section under "Unknown sources" to toggle back and forth to do it...had Tv two days now... I am thinking about sending this thing back..Unreal..Locking this TV UP... Anyone know how to fix it? I can not even put google chorme on this Tv...
I have a TCL purely because of how good the picture was, why don't we have Roku in Australia it is just an android tv. Is there a way to change to Roku
any opinion on sony 900h vs sony 950h vs tcl 6 vs tcl 8 ... I am totally confused after seeing a million review and comparison videos, what would you get?
I like your honesty and saying there are other subscribers that can give more comparing information if they really want that information of results.
Big up for saying: other channels too do great reviews.
You have just became better for saying that
*becOme
Cause he shares info,or cause it fits your agenda shut the fuck up wierdo wanna be God
Thumps up for your honesty here ! It's becoming a rare thing these days .
Tcl is a winner here.but both sets are quite affordable for what they are offering.
I've probably watched 20 reviews/comparisons of similar large 4k TV's before buying the TCL. This is by far the most comprehensive and educational. Especially the part about "crushing" the black levels. That Hisense is a no go just for that reason imo. I owe this channel and Rtings a big thank you!
I have been watching rting recently
I have had two Hisense TV's both had the red light of death within one year of ownership. I will never buy Hisense again. TCL is a great, budget friendly TV
3:53 for picture quality
With regards to the crushing of black detail, that happens if the local dimming is set to anything above Low on the Hisense H8F. For whatever reason Hisense has the local dimming be very aggressive at Medium and High and this causes black detail to be crushed. Also, the TV does not automatically tone map HDR fairly well when using a Video Game Console like an Xbox One X (unlike Roku TV OS which automatically tone maps up to 4,000 nits regardless of whether the device sends any HDR metadata or not). But you can get the Hisense H8F to tone map up to 3,700 nits by dropping Contrast to 42 for video game consoles. The internal apps of the TV appear to not have any issue with tone mapping and of course Dolby Vision has no issues with delivering bright specular highlight detail due to it's proprietary dynamic metadata.
With the Hisense H8F you will not want to use Game Mode HDR for playing Games in HDR because it will introduce some serious color banding. Not sure what is going on there but Hisense definitely needs to patch that. You will want to use the Theater HDR picture mode (as it gets rid of the color banding present in the Game Mode HDR picture mode) and make sure to turn off any Motion Enhancements. Film Mode will be enabled by default and even though it doesn't do anything with a 60hz signal it will add some noticeable input lag. I would say that between Game Mode HDR and Theater HDR the input lag doubles (maybe). Other reviews pegged the input lag between 15ms - 17ms with Game Mode. Without Game Mode the input lag feels like it's around 30ms (give or take a few ms).
I had those tv brands no good not like vizio smart tv 40inch
My tv has AMD freesync its a 40inch Vizio smart tv D40F Jo9
My 55 inch Samsung 4K Oled is now in my bedroom. The 75 inch TCL 4k now in the living room. Samsung a slight winner because of its Oled. But the 75 inch TCL BAM!!! ❤️
As far as the feet length problem of these TVs, you can buy an universal vesa mount center stand that’s maybe only 15-20 inches to fit on smaller TV stands. You can find these on Amazon and at BB, or similar stores. Just make sure you buy one that supports the size of your TV. Problem solved. Ironically my Sony Z9D comes with a small center stand which I don’t use since it’s wall mounted. I don’t know why TV manufacturers moved away from these center stands to the long, ugly feet on the edges of these new TVs. These center stands usually cost around $35-$50, TV size depending. I bought one to solve this problem on my secondary TV, TCL 55” 615 in my bedroom. With the distance between the legs it would have never fit and the 55” version of the TCL 6 was the smallest size available. No issues, holds the TV well and completely balanced with no wobble if even touched or trying to shake it on purpose. I have complete confidence in these center stands.
Fight! Fight! Fight! This little series was great, i really hope you review and compare more budget sets in the future
I personally love raw android TV as an OS over something like Roku. Plus a 55" H8F is currently only $399, which is quite a bit cheaper than an R617
agreed. just connect a bluetooth controller if you dont like lag, problem solved. plus the extensive play store apps really takes the cake over the ultra basic roku in my eyes. And dont get me started on the roku remote lol
Android tv is vay superior and faster than roku TV and more open.
I just like the production and the transitions as he speaks. So smooth and less fluff, just straight to the point and tips here and there. And points where if you don't like this and not over energetic or anything. Super casual and not boring. Should have a podcast.
Is there a reason that the Hisense looks blurry at times (10:04)? Is that the TV or is the camera just focusing on the TCL?
Better comparison would be the Hisense H9F to the TCL 625.
I realize neither TV was out in June but the H9F was out shortly after.
They never covered the h9f though
Great video comparison, I do test gaming with TVs but Im waiting for the H9F model.
Ive got the H8f What are your picture settings for gaming on the xbox one S?
Always compare based on price levels. Thank you!
You are the best reviewer man!
I really enjoy all your videos.
Would love to see the 75" TCL 6 series tested against the 75" Hisense H8G
That TCL series 6 in 75" has a 120hz native panel; the 55/65" don't.
TCL is pushing FALD with very good input lag
I wish l would have watched this video before l ordered the Hisense today it's due tomorrow after your review l may be returning or exchanging . Thank for the good work.
I'd hold off. Tcl is about to release a new 6 series sometime this month to retail and Hisense also has a version higher than the TV in this review which is admittedly a lot better.
That tv is a piece of shit mines went up after 14 months my mother went up n 18 months both 55s my niece went up after 11 months the picture n everything was good it don’t last long u saved ur money
The $55" H8F is only $350 now which makes it by the best sub $400 TV you can get. If you're on a tight budget it's a great option, and they have the 50" currently for $310 now too.
350? Wow that seems like a steal.
I got burned by an online retailer scam while trying to buy a 65” LG OLED C8 for $1,500 (yeah, I know). In my frustration, I decided to take that money to Best Buy and get the best-looking large TV I could buy for that amount. I ended up actually spending a little less, on the TCL 6-series 75”, and I couldn’t be happier. The picture is fantastic, and Caleb is right about the Roku OS. He didn’t mention this, but it also sounds great, for people who don’t have any audio home theater stuff. I watched this TV for a few weeks before my audio system came in, and I would’ve been perfectly happy just using the TCL’s speakers (though I have to admit that having a subwoofer under my couch is way cool).
I already buy TCL 55in series 6 its a good buy.
Honestly I'll wait for TCL 8 series due later this year. It will be better and 75"+. So for those who want 85", this is definitely the way to go. TCL prices drop after 6months.
Thank you for making this video, you made my shopping decision easier.
Processing on the TCL is worlds better, the hisense is soft in the details while the TCL is sharp!
Really want to see it side by side with the 75x950G that they have
not really depends on the source materials 4k hdr looks equally as good on both but I must say the Hisense color and black levels looks better then the tcl
Well the source he is playing it’s obvious that the TCL has better contrast and a more detailed image
@@thomasrider3895 yeah because you can tell through the camera 🤷♂️🤣🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Well when you have eyeballs it’s obvious
@@thomasrider3895 just not to you then ....that's like saying you can tell what has better HDR performance from the this video 🤷♂️
i would have backed down the color setting on the hi-sense just a smidge. also the contrast setting on the hi sense was at least a couple of smidges too much. as you say, it blacked out some of the information in the picture. and it's the information that we really want.
sold me getting 75" TCL looks really nice also like the ROKU
Just purchased today my TCL 65inch 6 series for $339 can wait to messed around with it. Heading out to Best Buy as we speak. The bad part is that I need to drive near 40 miles to LA. lol
Thanks, I'm buying a tcl.
The H9F is much better. I returned my H8F and got that instead. The motion is superior on the H9F compared to the H8F.
Great reviews man ! Straight to the point no bs
Just purchased the new Hisense H9G 65". So far it's an amazing television with a premium feel...and that's coming from a brand snob. Wonder how it would stack up to the TCL 6 series??? 🤔.
Great comparation rewiew. Well done.
You guys should try a battle between TCL 2019 series 6 (R625 and R627) vs Hisense h9F both of are about to be released the h9F will be released in USA according to Hisense
I don’t want a tcl but how would the hisense h8f compare to samsung ru8000?
The TCL is obviously better. Now do this comparison again. When that H9F drops. That TV might just blow the TCL out the water.
not that obvious for the price the Hisense is the winner and black levels and color accuracy as well
@@marcfavell Not sure what youre smoking. Hisense H9E / H9F is what competes with the TCL 6, yet its $200 more. Also every reviewer has said that Hisense color is inaccurate pre-calibration. I havent seen a single reviewer prefer Hisense over TCL that wasnt a "sponsor" reviewer. Hisense is literally paying people to say good things about their TVs. TCL isnt. Pretty clear who is making a better product--TCL.
@on the street the Hisense can be had for for cheaper the the tcl I'm in Canada and the Hisense is at factory direct for $479.99 the tcl is $ 699.99 but at the same time I would buy the tv with roku built in any day of the week(as I said in my other comments) , I thought this was the Hisense with roku my bad. in my bedroom i have the 50 inch Hisense R7 with roku and it the best value 50 last year with hdr, not the brightest tv but great black levels and very accurate color
@the new Hisense that's com.ing out seems interesting though we will see ....I. going to get a new tv for the living room I just have to decide if I'm going to go big and sacrifice some picture quality with this tcl 75 inch or go with the same size I have now (55 inch) and go get a LG OLED 🤷♂️ not sure yet
so many decisions lol or do o get the 65 inch Vizio Quantum from last year 65 inch??? I will figure it out in the next month though, cheers man from Canada ( BTW I do not smoke shit) 😂😂😂
@@marcfavell there you go.. Youre in Canada. Im not talking to people as if they are in Canada. End of story. No one cares about Canadian prices vs US prices.
The Hisense is not calibrated. The orange should be red. Properly calibrated will blow that tcl out of water. H8F can look as good as OLED. Just bought the 55 inch for $400. the hisense legs can be mounted inward for smaller stand, it's a Google tv and has real remote not a kids remote.
whats best calibration you have settings?
@@dannyvang1990 I use either Vivid or hdr vivid depending on the source. It automatically selects hdr vivid if the video is hdr and switches to vivid automatically if non hdr video, but both settings look good.
My settings are below:
Picture: vivid or hdr vivid
Backlight: 100
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 45
Color: 45
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 15
Advanced settings
Color temp: high
Motion adjust: custom judder: 8
blur reduction: 8
Noise reduction: high
Digital noise reduction: high
Active contrast: high
Gamma: 2
Color: Auto
Boost color blue and yellow saturation and brightness by 2 or to your liking.
Let me know how it looks.
Love my h8f 55”, the local array dimming does have a halo effect that’s kinda annoying but the HDR and 4K on xbox1X is badass. Had the hdr flickering issue a few times but only when the picture is bright white but either way I don’t care, for $400 this baby is good enough
Just bought one for $369!
How is gaming overall?
Quite an honest review. TCl wins in Picture quality
I really like your reviews, very clear and on point.
Tremendous review! Thank you for this. You were so very helpful. You da man!
This comparison seems a little strange now because the R617 is still selling for around $530-$570 and the Hisense H8F is on Amazon right now for $398. A better comparison would have been the H9F maybe. I think the TCL in this video is somewhat better in most cases, but not for another $150 or so, the H8F wins the price/performance ration at the end of 2019 IMO.
Will you be reviewing Hisense H9F at all ?
H9F is the TRUTH. It will slay the TCL.
basically the same w/ the lag fixed and higher refresh rate
How do I get rid of those annoying "suggested" video boxes that appear in this video? One of them appears at 00:45
Dosn't the Hisense actually allow you to mount the feet in two different locations? Near the edges OR furthe in the middle? Therefore making it even better than TCL's reversing option?
...3rd TV comparison in this group should be the 2019 65" Vizio M series.
Agreed. I have been waiting for real reviews for that TV for weeks. That is the next TV to be reviewed by Rtings. So we will have a good review on it very soon.
How is that M series I am thinking about taking my Samsung 7 series back for a Vizio M series
TCL is just the better brand
Are you guys planning on getting TCL's 8K TV when it gets released?
In this video you answered my question of the previous video. Thank you for the information
I have the H8F from a replacement of a warranty in July 2019 and buyer beware: within just a week of having ours we had to call Hisense to have them send parts out and wait over a week to have it fixed. The power supply failed which is extremely common as I read with these TVs. As mentioned also the Android OS is BAD! It's slow on response and regularly just forces back to the home screen. We have exceptional internet and I don't say that lightly, we pay for it. Hulu, TH-cam, Disney Plus and even Netflix all suddenly stop and go to home. Not just that but the TV will suddenly stop and restart itself. Sadly they skimped on the hardware side.
We are gamers with consoles and PCs. The Hisense has a beautiful TV but after being absolutely frustrated out of the gate: I cannot recommend another Hisense product for my family.
I wonder if this also applies to the 55 inch and 50 inch versions of the Hisense H8F?
Great content, thanks! I like the TCL also, going to give the 65 to my father-in-law and buy the 75!
It's odd the TCL shows a better green than the Hisense. When compared now in several stores the green on the Hisense is way deeper and more vivid which makes me believe this review was set up just to promote TCL...
I'm between this tcl 75 and the Philips 75pus6754, what do recommend in sweden the price between theese two are thesame. Help me. ( for most movie/netflix, ps4 not a sportsfan)
Are you still planning on comparing the TCL to the Sony?
TCL and Hisense are targeting Samsung to compete
@@awaisiqbal8934 BUT still the BRAVIA is OUTSTANDING!!!!!
@@lionelhowell4972 Yes in terms of motion flow otherwise TCL gives run for money in terms of its wide color gamut
I purchased one tcl L55P2MUS last May but it is blinking. They are telling no spare parts. In warranty period what can I do.
Would rather of seen this TCL against the Sony X950G or samsung Q70R. To see if it's actually comparing to TVs twice the price or if it is truly a budget tv at a budget price.
Can't the issues with Hisense crushing blacks and TCL red and magenta color defects be calibrated away to at least some degree? It would be good to see them compared post-calibration.
Didnt a lot of people have issues with the panels on the TCLs this year?
Yeah i'd say like 15% of ppl get a bad panel. However, if you're part of the 85% who got a good one, then it's amazing.
stryker6040 this tv is a piece of shit my son 55 went up n 14 months my 55 went up n about 17 months it’s not worth it
Look forward to when you will be able to also compare input lag. On the subject of gaming though, it doesn't have to by shooters. I find the most noticeable difference with input lag is actually felt with pinball games.
I see the MartinLogan Dynamo in the corner, great sub!
Isn't Android tv interfaces more user friendly than roku?
It should be But it's not. Roku is the most easily friendly somth faster by far. And am a huge Android TV user with multiple devices..
Can the built-in Android TV or Roku TV be temporarily disabled or overridden? For example, if I wanted to use a Firestick or Apple TV or some other TV operating system? Last time I used a Roku box was on a non-smart flat screen TV a few years ago. Now, I'm looking to cut the cable and not make an expensive mistake along the way.
What do you think I should get the samsung q70r 75 inch for 2300$ cad or Sony x900 f 75 inch for 2500$ cad or go for the tcl 617 75 inch for 1550$ cad. I mostly use for video games or sports with some tv shows and movies.
Caleb, thanks. Always great reviews. Is the H8E anywhere near H8F- or is it a black friday bait and switch? On that note, you said you would examine the Vizio M-Quantum 70" (MQ6/M706). Is it even an M-Quantum? I just bought and hear it's more comparable to V-series. I am deciding between 70" M-Quantum and Hisense 75" H8E. I am seeing for near the same price. Any suggestions? Im just so worried that these one-off holiday TVs are nothing close to the line they are supposed to represent. Thanks!
Hi, are there big differences between Hisense R6 line and this one you included in your comparison?
I have a " Hisense tv 40eu300. While I am watching it. The SOUND will go to MUTE for no reason. Then I have to turn the TV off and then back on to get the SOUND back. Can you help me with this problem? Awesome video thanks for sharing it.
Just got an H9F and Xbox One X says that HDR 10 video is supported but not HDR gaming. Went into settings on the TV and 'HDMI 2.0 format' is grayed out at 'standard'. The thing is, my Samsung Q70R supported HDR in gaming. Am I missing something?
Super helpful review, thanks!
Any recommendations for a 65”+ that I’ll mostly be using my Apple TV and PS4 with??? I mostly stream Netflix and similar apps. Thanks
apparently TCL 6 series, but they have serious quality control issues ( grey banding ) that is very prevalent. When you get a good one it's hands down the best at and slightly above it's price range. But I don't know what is in the $550.00 - 800 dollar price range as I'm not interested in paying that much.
Just a note here about Netflix streaming ( because I did the research ). 4k uses 25Mbps and you need to upgrade to their ultra HD which is about $3 per month. As for HDR, yes some shows that get streamed are in HDR but I've read that people aren't seeing a difference.
William Seipp thank you so much for the response. I ended up going with a Samsung 75” 2018 model. I was able to find one for $700 with the holiday deals. It doesn’t have the greatest picture but it was a pretty good deal. Thanks again.
Just a quick update, that Samsung I got ended up not being so great. About a week after it wouldn’t turn on anymore. Long story short, currently back on the hunt. Stuck between Vizio M8, TCL R625, and Hisense H9F. Any further advice would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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@@Syn-gm2yw What did you end up getting?
For gaming, you ought to either find someone who does good gaming who is nearby, or make a deal with someone you want to share viewers with, and make some arrangement to do connected videos, e.g., to review the same device at the same time, and link each other.
Cheers bro...great informative vid
going from plasma , is the TCL a good enough picture?
Nope, dont ever look this way, the only for you is to look at OLED
I'm just like you I have a plasma I'm thinking about going qled... but I want something for now that'll hold me so I get the qled
roku OS on smart TV's is the best and fastest hands down....from my experience pick the one with roku OS can't go wrong with roku build in very good 🤷♂️👍👍👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Unfortunately those happen to be the worse TVs overall.
@@AIRTIGHT31 not necessarily bud, if you don't have lots of money to spend, and comparing them to tvs in the same class they are very good. take the Hisense R7 for instance not very bright but has a very good picture overall, great color and black levels.
Roku has no apps. Android tv is a lot better you fool
@@flexbox2089 yeah sure there bud roku is way better for a smart tv platform, android smart tv platform is soooooo buggy just look at the sony TV's as a example......the new 8 series TCL is going to be the tv that all try to play catch up with this year.....with 25,000 individual LED'S for it's back light with 1000 zones 65 inch for $2K and with roku.
obviously you have zero experience with actual smart tv's if you did you would know better "your a window shopper"
pretty bad a under $300 smart tv from TCL, Hisense is smother smoother overall user experience then a $4k+ Sony 🤷♂️
@@flexbox2089 what apps does it not have that make you say that?
I didn't think there was a 75" *2019* *6-SERIES* from TCL!? I thought 75" was only available in the *2019 4-Series or 8-Series* or *2018 6-Series*?
Hes comparing the 2018 version. 2019 version is the 75R625
@@richardalexander1838 there isn't a 2019 model. Check the TCL website under 2019 6Series. He's comparing the late 2018 model, which is confused for a 2019 model... I'm pretty sure. (The reason I asked the question was because of the title. It's misleading.) REALLY, what I was wondering is, does the 75" model in this video have the 2019 Quantum Dot tech. (I don't think so.)
@@SirThomasHarber no it does not, it is not a QLED panel. Only the 8 series features quantum dot led for 2018. 2019 6 Series however does have QLED panel but not in the 75inch panel format, only 55 and 65. 2019 model will also have a true 120hz motion sensor unlike the 2018 version which is only 60hz.
'i didn't expect Hisense to punch up as well as the TCL is doing'🤔
What does that mean?
does the TCL 6 series offer the TH-cam TV app? Not plain TH-cam... but the TV platform
TCL Man ... those rich blacks and darks make up for it! I own 2 of them
Both have 3 year warranty but TCL call centre is in the Philippines and I've have heard there. Is not much support while hicence. Call centre here's in Australia you get the help you neef
Is it best to Buy a Android TV or buy a Android Box to connect to it? I notice Android TVs only come in Hisense, TCL, Phillips TVs, I didn't know if they was good TVs
I think it is better for me to compare on the same size. just for my opinion only...55" of hisense compare to 75" of tcl...
For this battle it could win of tcl because of the size
Apparently, the TCL that are launched in the UK are not as good as the 6 series in the US which sucks because from the video i'd prefer the TCL also.
Awesome job but next time include the sound for people like me with hearing loss I need to know I can hear the TV without surroundsound being purchased extra
The peak brightness is a lot more than a minor difference between the 2. The Hisense can only reach about 680nits while the 6 series can reach above 1,000nits so I'd call that a pretty big difference
What about the Hisense H6500F 65inch 4K TV, which only sells about about $400?
Great job Caleb! Awesome vid my friend 👍
What's your opinion on The Vizio M Quantum?
clearly looks like they're biased towards the TCL and even have the Hisense set up so it's softer. I doubt the Hisense is even running 4K that's how obvious they are about it. They're pretty much identical performers folks. Just get the one that is cheaper.
So I have a question is the 55H9100E Plus that Walmart sells a step above the H8F or are they the same TV?
I would love to see LG C9 vs LG Nano 9 series, for instance should I get a smaller 55-inch C9 (OLED55C9PUA) or a bigger 75-inch Nano 9 TV (75SM9070PUA
)for the about same price? like how much better is the oled versus the performance of the nano TV but instead having a much more immersive experience with a huge TV
You can not unlock "Unknown sources" on this TV or the H9F ..I called Tech Support they told me no you can not...told me I could use a external device... there is not mark in the security section under "Unknown sources" to toggle back and forth to do it...had Tv two days now... I am thinking about sending this thing back..Unreal..Locking this TV UP... Anyone know how to fix it? I can not even put google chorme on this Tv...
I have a TCL purely because of how good the picture was, why don't we have Roku in Australia it is just an android tv. Is there a way to change to Roku
Are you guys going to review the top of the line Hisense 65H9F?
Very honest presentation thanks. Greetings from James J in Limerick city Ireland
How are they for over the air tv from an antenna? Are they about the same? Is there a program guide?
any opinion on sony 900h vs sony 950h vs tcl 6 vs tcl 8 ... I am totally confused after seeing a million review and comparison videos, what would you get?
Question about the legs ...do either sets allow them to be moved closer ?
Awesome review. Can't wait to see the TCL vs Vizio video. What set will be crowded King of the budget space? "There can be only one!"....
Vizio in my opinion is not a budget brand anymore there tvs keep up with the best of them
Should I buy hisense uled or TCL Qled? I can't decide between u7b and TCL c715