Photo Editing - MacBook Pro 14 vs iPad Pro M1... Which is better?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we do a deep dive into the differences when it comes to photo editing and generally living with these devices from a photo only perspective.
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VIDEO CHAPTERS:
00:41 - MY USE CASE
01:37 - DEVICE SPECS
03:26 - COST, SIZE & WEIGHT
04:05 - INTERACTING WITH THE DEVICE
06:05 - BEST FOR DESKTOP WORK?
06:37 - BEST FOR TRAVEL?
05:51 - BATTERY LIFE
08:35 - RISK OF DAMAGE & DURABILITY
09:30 - HARDWARE SUMMARY
10:06 - OPERATING SYSTEM
14:31 - PHOTO EDITING SOFTWARE
21:16 - WHICH WOULD I RECOMMEND?
23:44 - SUMMARY - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
It's great to see a long term view rather than a someone whose just had a quick look over the two products 👍
Yeah exactly!
We need more of this on yt.
This is such a great and thoughtful comparison. I like how you've highlighted several use cases and workflows and how which device might be better for each. Really helpful!
After I recently started editing on an iPad I love the process! Can chill on the couch and easily take it with me.
Excellent information and production value. Very thoughtful. I look forward to more of your videos.
Fantastic in-depth comparison Roman. As someone who never saw the necessity to own an iPad (since I had a 16” MacBook Pro and my iPhone) I can wholeheartedly agree that the experience of using an iPad made such an impact that I actually sold the MacBook Pro (I bought an M1 Mac Mini later on to complement the setup).
I’m so glad you made this video. This is my current dilemma between which iPad to upgrade to in relation to what device I want to edit on thank you!
Thumbs up. Perfect timing, Air for me and tablet later- when C1 iOS eventuates. Your tech talk is clear and concise, the same as your nft vid, actually all of them come to think of it. 👍👍
Very interesting I sent my Ipad Pro back, and did what you just said and use a Macbook Air M1, fantastic value for the price in a very neat form factor.
This was super helpful and thorough, thanks a lot!
The fun factor you mentioned is the biggest one for me. I agree with everything here. I just got the exact ipad pro you have to see if it will help my processing in anyway. I found that It hasn't made my process any better or more efficient and from a work flow stand point(I do mainly sports photos) I cant say I love the iPad. But I have so much fun editing on the iPad. So its basically down to whether I think its worth keeping for the fun experience. And I think it is. Great video!
Thank you for actually making real recommendations!!
The iPad will become an obvious choice IF you love the 100V. Imagine the small shoulder bag with just the IPad, 100V and an SD card adapter plus Apple Pencil inside?! That is pretty much my setup with XE4. I just have a couple of lenses (4) in the bag too.
Hey Roman great video. I was wondering what kind of shutter type do you use? Thanks.
Excellent comparison, thanks Roman!
Really great job on the vid. Very informative
Excellent video. I think your assessment is spot on….not a pro - but I have both (MacBook Pro M1 2020 and iPad Pro M1) for very much of the reasons you cited. Enjoying your channel… thanks for all of the content you put out there.
A very concise analysis. I personally use a MacBook but love the idea of editing images on iPad Pro, as it just seems more engaging not only in the editing but by sitting with the family while they watch another pointless series I can edit my images. Maybe I can persuade the missus for me to upgrade my iPad to the Pro 🤔
Useful summary. It seems that the iPad is the more versatile device due to portability and touchscreen. The recent intro of Stage Manager to iPadOS further enhances the ability to use the iPad as a "computer" by hooking it to a monitor when used at your desk. It still has some shortcomings due to the limitations of iPadOS vs MacOS. Two in particular you highlighted is the limitation of batch processing photos in the iPadOS version of Lightroom and the limitations on formatting external drives on the iPad. I think I'm going to get the iPad since I'll enjoy using it as a tablet but with the ability to conenct keyboards, mice and a monitor to use it as a computer too so it seems be the best of both worlds (with some comprises of course). Also, my workflow is almost entirely hinged on the Apple Photos app since I use my iPhone 12 Pro Max as my main camera. I also have a GoPro and drone but the photos from them are also transferred to the GoPro and DJI apps on my iPhone (respectively) and from there are transferred to my Photos App.
I got an M1 iMac a month ago and use it and the M1 iPad Pro for my photography. I also thought the iPad would be enough but, sometimes I need the bigger screen for more prolonged periods of editing.
Wow this has been , hands down the best video I have seen.. I am an enthusiast photographer. I work on the ocean so I need something durable. So.. this has answered all my questions. I have an Imac at home ( new 24 inch love it.) so after this video I will be buying the Ipad pro and using my old Macbook pro from 2012 and making my main editing my imac. Thanks so much.
I am curious how you store all your photos. Do you use a cloud solution so you can access your photos on both your MacBook Pro and iPad? If so how does it work with the photo editing software? I currently use iCloud to store my photos which allows me to access on multiple devices. However I don't know which photo editing software (besides Apple Photos) will easily work with iCloud.
What about storage with MacBook Pro, have seen the argument for getting the 512gb and then get external ssd but back and forth between 512 and 1Tb thoughts?
Are you able to body shape subjects on the iPad? I’m having trouble with that and skin smoothing on my iPad Pro. I have both Lightroom and photoshop apps
Enjoy your videos. Since you are using a apple laptop and IPad, which software do you use to manage folders for photos. I have found if you created folders in Mac, the folders don’t create in IPad.
Hey Roman, you should deffo try using sidecar with your iPad as an input for your Mac, really cool way of using both devices
have you tried wireless tether with the ipad and fuji?
I use my iPad Air for everything and it’s been great so far, waiting for my 14” MBP! Highly recommend waiting for the iPad Air 2 coming in April if you can wait if you want a cheaper pro alternative.
I’m using iPad Pro 11 from 2021 and it’s pretty good on the go.
I traveled a few times for work or weekends and it’s great to have a device like the iPad to use Lightroom and some internet In the train, when you are sleeping in someone flat..But I’m gonna buy that MacBook Pro 14 because of the screen size and the files save/transfert that is sometime annoying.
My eyes feel sometimes tired after many hours spending on the 11 screen size from the iPad.
And I’m doing more and more vidéo and I think that the MacBook Pro will be better for that too. Lumafusion is great but miss some possibilities.
And I also will connect the MacBook Pro to a external screen later too.
Hope you guys can understand my sentences ^
I edit all my photos with Lightroom on an Android tablet, and obviously the features are a bit limited compared to the desktop version, but I get by anyway. My edits are always on the "light" side, and the only things I miss are the ones you mentioned: HDR and Pano merging, but I make do with other Android apps because I don't do a lot of those anyway.
I stay in front of a computer all day for work, and the last thing I want is keep doing that for editing photos, so an inexpensive Android tabled works really, really well for me: in the evening, I sit on the couch and edit one or two photos, in a very relaxing way.
Android dont hv photoshop like ipad app :(
what model of tablet do you use?
@@sraczenza705 A somewhat inexpensive Samsung Tab A8
This is a great video, thanks!
Thank you so much for helping me make the decision between macbook vs ipad. Macbook pro it is. Your video is excellent.
Great Video… Helped me choose which is the right one for me. I pad it is 👍
A big advantage of the iPad to me is being able to export photos direct from Lightroom to Apples photo album. That is clunky process to say the least on the Mac. Another reason I prefer to edit on my iPad Pro is the touch screen - being able to pinch to zoom and use Apple Pencil. I got a MacBook mainly to be able to use Topaz Denoise being mainly a wildlife photographer forced to often use high ISO. I also find the Mac good for video editing and better for work using the keyboard
i have a macbook pro but it has broken down so im using my son's desktop. this one cleared something out. thank you!
I use capture one, which can read Fuji raw files really well. Does Lightroom for iPad handle the files any differently? Do you still get the film simulations built in to the raw files or so you get a completely flat raw file?
Yeah they are different and I wish I can combine both together lol. I will make a video on it soon
Hello can you run Photo Mechanic on IPad Pro.
Any updates on iPad vs laptop for editing? I’m curious to see now that it’s been a year. Just got Lightroom and debating whether to buy iPad or new laptop.
I’d love a video on it!
Brilliant video. I currently use an old iPad Air which works fine but I am eyeing up an m2 MacBook Air.
Thanks for a really helpful video. Just a quick comment to say that I use my iPad Pro with an external monitor. Works well for me. Thanks again.
thanks! so you can use a iPad Pro with an external monitor,.. good to hear. Happy with you iPad Pro?
as a professional photographer, batch processing and asset management is critically needed.. this is the reasons i cant convert to ipad yet
This
Great video, appreciate your thought very helpful thank you. Do you shoot and edit in raw or jpg?
Raw
Thanks for the amazing content you create.
WOW! Thank you so much!!
Great video, Roman! Just one question, can you do photo editing on the iPad in Affinity Photo, Lightroom etc. also in Portrait screen rotation? I’m thinking of getting the iPad for photo editing because most of my photos are shot on iPhone Pro in portrait screen rotation. As you can’t rotate the screen on the MacBook, I was thinking the iPad might be a better choice. It works obviously for viewing but I’m not sure if it also works for actual photo editing. Thanks!
yeah you can. I'd say in LR it is easier as it is more optimised for touch. Affinity is more of a desktop app so landscape works better
Amazing review.
Will 16 GB RAM be enough for 4-5 years for normal usage without video editing or rendering at all.
Also , my friend is using macbook pro 14 base model and when he opens 5-6 tabs or 7 in safari and nothing running in the background RAM usage is between 10 -12.30 GB RAM . Do you think it is normal or macbook works like this .
Nice video Roman!
Ive been going around this circle for a few years, there isn’t an answer, I’m iPad Pro stuck now, keyboard folio pencil and a dongle and its my preferred option, until i get my MacBook pro out again and the circle starts again.
so lucky to have them both :) Love them
One thing that’s critical to me is that the MacBook cannot have a cellular connection. This may not apply in all locations, but being able to get a data plan for an iPad is a large factor in me looking to upgrade my older iPad Air to an iPad Pro over a MacBook.
Do you work in raw on the ipad? Thx!
Yeah
I've always wanted to use my ipad as my full-time pc but I just never Could. The file system makes me nervous as hell.
But for editing it's pretty dam good and I'm using an ipad from 2018 and an m1 macbook aha.
What a review 👍🏼
Well done Roman! Fair and comprensive comparison. Much appreciated. I agree with everything you said. I own both macbook and ipad. Sometimes I travel and in that case I desire to take ipad with me, but at the end I found myself getting just macbook, mainly for data loss prevention. For me, it is not acceptable to travel without doing a safe backup of every new image, on daily basis. I don't feel safe to store everything just into ipad. With mac, I can easly backup everything into an external ssd. Unfortunatelly, I can't do that with ipad. The backup of raw files is very annoying on ipad, the process is too slow. Furthermore, I didn't find any way to backup the ipad image editings, unless I can trust a reasonably fast internet connection on the go. So, for my use case, macbook is the only way to be safe. If there is some solution, I'd like to take just ipad with me. Any suggestion?
Just a clarification. When I said "ipad image editings", I mean the ipad lightroom catalog.
Well with the new iPads the process is quicker but for what they cost you might as well stick with the mac. Unless you can find a used M1 iPad and a good thunderbolt SSD
I love your final answer. I’m the serious enthusiast / pro. I have my 11” iPad I’m typing this comment on an and my 14” M1 Pro is in the mail now. There’s no way around having the $$ for both and knowing that you can do both…there’s no “RIGHT” answer here. I settled on this before I ever saw this
Great user based review ! About a third in the video, I was like "or get a mac book air, if you're on a budget" and at the end, you said it (and that is gonna be my choice, those things are too damn expensive for an enthousiast like me). Every important thing was covered from a photography point of view. thanks again
With affinity photo are you experiencing any issues when doing a project with a lot of layers?
**Referring to the iPad version of affinity photo**
Hmm not really but I am not big into compositing. However any of these issues might be fixed in iOS16 if you have an M1 ipad due to RAM swap feature
19:04 you said this perfectly! iPad IS more enjoyable. I have 5 kids so I’m always on the move, meaning hiding from them sometimes haha. My problem is, iPad is not strong enough to do photo organizing/archiving. My oldest is 12 yrs old, so that means I have 12 years of photos that I’ve been dumping onto external ssd’s cuz I keep telling myself that one day I’ll get a iMac or MacBook. Well long story short, I gave my 3rd gen 12.9 iPad Pro to one of my kids so I’m stuck on my iPhone 12 Pro Max.
So I’m torn because I liked the ProMotion 120hz That what sold for me cuz I watch a lot of soccer on it & several shows. We dont have a single tv in the house & we like it that way.
Is the latest iPad gen strong enough to handle load/refresh time of photos & videos when I hook external ssd to the iPad?
I had 11 inch MacBook Air I think several years ago & it was the worst purchase Ive ever made. The screen was so grainy that I was getting headaches and vertigo. It was just absolutely a horrible experience. Luckily I sold it for almost what I paid for, $1,700ish (i9) so I’m weary on the latest 2022 MacBook Air
Which then leaves me the iMac (5k) which might be the best choice right now & in the future I could invest another iPad for myself….
Any advice? Thank you.
Excellent video Roman and agree 100%. As someone who uses an Imac and the IPad Pro I fail to understand why the file management system on the IPad is worse than file management on Windows 95 27 years ago, sure the current version is better than before but it feels nothing more than incredibly crude when the rest of the device feels like a different planet to anything from 1995 !!!
My big issue is that I love luminar and they still don’t have an iPad version. I’m very disappointed because I bought the 12.9 m1 just like what you have. I also love silver efex pro and that’s not avail either. I’m ok with paying for extra iCloud storage rather than fiddle with an external ssd. In this case a desktop is def better for those programs. Sucks.
M1 MacBook Air for me. 1.3kg and it does everything I need. But the only downside is trying to use it on an economy flight. So for that I tend to carry an iPad mini as well. Total weight still only 1.6kg plus you can use the iPad as a "Wacom Tablet" type device with the laptop if you want. For really ultralight trips (underseat bag only) I'll just take the iPad. What I am thinking of doing is switching from Lightroom Classic on the laptop to Lightroom Cloud. As you say, 90% of the functionality is there together with big syncing advantages. (e.g. work on some photos on the laptop in the hotel then continue with the iPad on the aircraft - assuming you've got decent WiFi in the hotel!😂)
how do you use your ipad as wacom tablet ? sidecar or universal control ? also do you get hover on your macbook screen while using ipad as a wacom tablet?
Como é incrível o quanto os estrangeiros de outros países se preocupam em trazer conteúdos bem explicados a referente a tal assunto. Eu diria que aqui no Brasil nada se comprada com os conteúdos de fora de outros países, aqui falta esse tipo de conteúdo...
Simplesmente está de parabéns Roman pelo seu vídeo eu sempre tenho pesquisado sobre Ipad oh Mac Air M1 e qual comprar, e vários vídeos seu tem me ajudado e muito!!!
🇧🇷🇧🇷📸📸😉😉
Can you do this comparison again once IOS16 comes out? I think the new multitasking features on iOS will be a game changer.
Roman you edit raw files on Ipad?
He does, look at his editing videos, but I also do too in LR CC
@@jofo05 i know! But I cant transfer raw files from my fuji app to Ipad! It is that the problem? Sorry for my english
@@jamingdani you’re good! Can you export them to the files app? In LR you can add raw images from the files app for sure and direct from an SD card.
@@jofo05 humm thanks a lot man i'm gonna try
@@jamingdani good luck!
Hey Roman, why did you buy a cheap Wacom if you have an iPad Pro? You could use the iPad as a second screen on your MacBook with the free feature Apple Sidecar. I’ve seen it used with Photoshop, Illustrator and and other creative software and it works great (specially on new devices). You get all the benefits of Apple Pencil and iPad but with all the benefits of your Mac. Give it a try!
because I got the MacBook with the intention to replace the iPad
@@snapsbyfox Oh of course. But while at home, it would help out.
yeah but tbh I ended up keeping both with the iPad being the photo editor and Mac being for video and file organisation. Also the iPad without magic keyboard and 14 MacBook together weight almost the same as the 16 inch MacBook.. and get best of both worlds hah
@@snapsbyfox Makes sense. As you said, what works for you. I started following you because I bought a Fuji XT3 and you give great tips. I use Aperture One and I still haven’t received my MacBook yet, I have an iPad Air 4 and I’m looking forward to see how Sidecar works with that. Great video, and thank you for your responses. Keep it up with channel and great street photography. Cheers!
You make mention of video editing favoring the MacBook Pro - yet Lumifusion on a properly spec'd iPad Pro is as fast, if not faster than same spec'd MacBook Pro - I get that usability/interface favors the laptop, but I question your assertion that video editing favors the laptop - I guess it depends on what one is doing for post - and besides, Lumifusion project files can be opened in Final Cut on the desktop/laptop if needed.
Yeah tried it and a fair few videos on the channel are on luma fusion. There are little things which can get frustrating but maybe that’s for another video haha
Your Wacom must have some sort of issue. I got the exact same one and almost zero delay. Not like yours is showing.
Curious... Running it wired or not wired?
My main issue with the iPad is the file system. It’s a hassle to use and it often also takes ages just to read an SD card as well (at least in my experience). It’s a great illustration device, but hasn’t been that great for editing in my experience.
As a windows user with 3 monitors running four desktop environments simultaneously that I can quickly swap between different tasks, I do find the iPad kinda unusable for productivity multitasking. Its multitasking works great for browsing the web while watching a video or listening to music, but as soon as “real work” gets involved I find I do not have enough space to get stuff done efficiently. Hoping iPadOS 16 will improve this with external monitor support.
With iPad you are going to face unexpected issues like:
1) when you store photos in "files", you cannot watch them since they are comressed noticeably
2) when you import photos into "photos" app, you can watch them, but you cannot export or copy .RAW when you import .JPG + .RAW (so you cannot make a backup of RAWs for ex. this drives me crazy)
3) when you wanna coppy a lot of photos (let's say 500), you need to copy in small batches, otherwise not all the photos will be coppied
4) creating/deleting folders and downloading files in "files" is crazy and many times you will see deleted folder, or you wont see downloaded files, until you restart the "files" app
5) screen brightness is being adjusted by itself and cannot be locked, which may affects your editing
I'm personally into digital drawing as well, which is pleasant experience on iPad. Also I'm mostly taking photos while traveling and iPad is powerful device which is capable to do desktop-like stuff anywhere (Affinity photo users).
totally agree. If I listed every single one of these small issues the video will be 2 hours long. It is frustrating how limited it can be while also how great it can be lol
Fantastic helpful video l have come to the conclusion that l need both 🙄 ouch …..
I got the Logitech cover keyboard and it has a trackpad. Loads cheaper than the Apple versions. I never use my Wacom wirelessly, if you plug it in it’s loads better.
Thank you, it helped me stay away from the iPad
I can't do anything on an iPad, i use Bridge + CameraRaw, i hate the dumb idea of importing photos.
At the point 🏴☠️💎⭐️📌
The biggest issue I've found working on iPad vs MacBook Pro was the colour management. You cannot apply a monitor profile on iPad. The colour calibration on the iPad is just off. I use collections from the desktop version to sync the iPad. The colours were off when I would print or publish to social media from the iPad. I use a hardware calibration method (SpyderXElite) for the laptop monitor and never have an issue with the output. I use the iPad for all my masks or anything with fine detail that using the pen would benefit and the laptop for everything else. It's not an "either or" situation for me. They work really well together if its in the budget.
Hmm must say I never had that issue. The only time it has tripped me is when I left True Tone on. But same goes for mac
Do you recommend turning off true tone, night shift and auto brightness while editing photos on iPad?
@@ThePhysicalMediaFan Then the problem will be what is the right brightness level.
Just an FYI if you have a usb-c to hdmi adapter you can connect the iPad to an external monitor. It will be limited to the iPads aspect ratio but it still can be very useful
I'm sure it's possible to just get a USB-C monitor and connect it to the iPad that way. Saves you from having to use a dongle
@@ronaldojoe3011 yeah sure that will word, but you’ll probably want a dongle or a docking station that you can also connect a mouse and a keyboard in addition to the monitor
@@alexgelman thats actually a brilliant idea
Can’t color correct that display with an iPad Pro, so where is the point of doing that in the first place?
protip for ipad: you can just use separate bluetooth magic keyboard and magic trackpad for half the price of ipad magic keyboard instead.
I love the iPad form factor and the pencil, but the iPad M1 just doesn’t have the memory, features or horsepower to compete even with a low end laptop and it’s in the stone ages vs the software on a desktop… There’s just tens of thousands of things it can’t do…
M2 MBAir on the go.
500 to a 1000 photos each day is not much? you're crazy!
Edited with a MacBook for 10 years, I’m switching to iPad.
and.. happy?
@@kimmerettesew extremely. Best decision I’ve ever made for my post production workflow. I do all my video editing on there too for my channel
But on the ipad you will not have a calibrated monitor..
calibrating monitors is the biggest lie everyone has been sold in order to sell some more tech lol
@@snapsbyfox Apple displays are some of the best out of the box and if your edit is decent no one will notice since every display is different anyways.
One more thing that people might not see as a big deal, the fact that you can get an iPad with cellular is huge for people who travel a lot. Not having to tether to your phone all the time and just use the iPad for quick email work or upload to social media and browsing is totally worth the extra 100.
Why don't just use iphone pro max?
I wish I could. But my eyes get sore from such a small screen.
@@snapsbyfox fair enough. Mac book pro is great but my kidney's start to hurt when I see the price. Lol
Basically the MacBook slaughters the iPad. And its actually not that much more expensive. Damn the iPad is a failure of a “pro” device.
however I still much prefer editing on the iPad and would chose it over the Mac if not for TH-cam lol
Not at all! Both have there pro’s and con’s
@@snapsbyfox Despite MacBooks being so much more capable, I sometimes don’t even know where mine is. My five year old iPad Pro 11 inch still works flawlessly, I always have my SD to lightning adapter in my sling with the Fuji XT 20, that’s what I do 90+% of the time. Instantaneous reviewing of photos, importing them, sending them wherever I need to send them. Admittedly I don’t do much editing but if I did, I’m sure the story would be the same.
my left kidney edits better