MISDIAGNOSED ENGINE FAILURE 2.2 2.4 TDCI Land Rover Defender Puma & Ford Transit EASY FIX!!
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- Thanks for watching.
Rather than going to the main dealers here is a list of the aftermarket part numbers that i used for this job.
Rocker Cover Gasket Part No - 368 59 0701
Injector Oil Seal (4 Required) Part No - 368 59 0920
Copper Injector Seal (4 Required) Part No - 449770370
If you give these numbers to your parts supplier they can cross reference the numbers to get the same part.
Dont jump straight to conclusions just because the engine is breathing heavy. This is the most common mistake making you think your engine is failing when in fact it is a cheap fix!!
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Hi Everyone Thanks for watching.
Rather than going to the main dealers here is a list of the aftermarket part numbers that i used for this job.
Rocker Cover Gasket Part No - 368 59 0701
Injector Oil Seal (4 Required) Part No - 368 59 0920
Copper Injector Seal (4 Required) Part No - 449770370
If you give these numbers to your parts supplier they can cross reference the numbers to get the same part.
Thanks for your help bought a complete kit with new rocker box off eBay, fitted it oil leak stopped smoking stopped driving perfect. The old copper washers were completely the wrong size that some cowboy had fitted anyway thanks again …
Hi , I watched your excellent video and reckon my fiat ducato which has the 2.2 diesel Ford puma engine has the same problem. The leak came from within the intake manifold and out through the Union with the air sensor housing and the egr connector pipe. This is over the alternator that died due to oil running into it. Question is where do buy your parts so cheap as I've been quoted 5 quid for one copper washer from euro car parts.
Or if I get an ebay kit .can you reccomend one of them .
Also I've seen people just change seals without taking rocker cover off and cleaning. But I thought I wouldn't want to slide the injectors back through all that crap . All suggestions gratefully recieved.
Bob from leeds
@@bob-dp3ec Hi Bob. Since making this this video the price of the parts has gone up a fair bit (especially the washers as they are copper) I domt use ebay parts as I ca t guarantee them so use such as Euro and SDL.
Yes you can do it without taking the the rocker off but you cannot clean inside doing it that way. Given the state of them when this happens its always best practice to remove everyrhing and give them a good clean out.
@@lifes.projects cheers for that, I've ordered from tpuk. So I hope everything fits.
Keep up the good work Bob
Hi , sorry to be a pain but I'm have a tiny problem. I've got the seal kit and rocker gasket. Unfortunately the 8mm bolt at front nearest side that also holds a mount for the injector fuel tube. Is really tight and I don't want to risk breaking it.
Is there away on loosening it ?
If I can't get cover off how can I clean where the injectors are seated on washers , because it is pretty oily in there.
I was thinking of a vacuum with half inch tube.
Any help gratefully recieved as alway .
I'll try to attach photos
Cheers Bob
I don't own a diesel but great to see knowledgeable lads like yourself passing on good information, well done.
Thank you much appreciated.
You are a breath of fresh air and a true mechanic my van is doing what you described and all I got was it needs new engine . I have been in the motor trade for many years on the body side but mixed with mechanical i did not feel i needed a new engine so thanks for confirming my suspicions……will let you know how I get on…….
Cheers
I was a day away from fitting a second hand engine , approx £600 plus labour. We did this and it worked van drives like new, you are a genius mate thank you.
This is something I recommend replacing every 80,000 miles too all my customers prevention is king. I’ve got a 61 plate transit in currently over pressurising pushing the oil up out of the dip stick but only started too do so after bleeding the fuel system after replacing the fuel filter as the fuel filter was in a very bad state which is another major issue with diesels most people don’t change the fuel filters making components work harder it should be made a legal requirement if you own a vehicle mot regular services and more random vehicle checks for tyres as the state of tyres and people only come in when it’s wet and they notice that suddenly they ain’t able too stop due too the tyres being like a f1 cars slicks and also people an mot is not proof that your vehicle is road worthy for a year it’s only proof that at the time of test the vehicle was presented in a roadworthy manner and passed at that time you are solely responsible for the running and upkeep of your vehicle and you are responsible if your involved in a traffic collision
I have a mk7 transit engine seems to be locked solid i got the van like this so no idea how or what caused it what is the most common thing to go would it be a cam chain ?
Cheers for this. I thought my 2007 240k mile TDCI was scrap. Oil all over power steering pump, excess pressure from oil cap etc. Parts ordered abs the old wagon will live on a bit longer. Thankyou so so much.
No probs. Let me know how you get on 👍
@@lifes.projects sorted. Still hunts a bit when it’s warmed up but all the crank case pressure gone so it’s going for MOT as soon as I can get it there and going back to work.
@@lifes.projects sorted. Still hunts a bit when it’s warmed up but all the crank case pressure gone so it’s going for MOT as soon as I can get it there and going back to work.
@@lifes.projects sorted. Still hunts a bit when it’s warmed up but all the crank case pressure gone so it’s going for MOT as soon as I can get it there and going back to work.
@@whitacrebespoke Fanstastic! You need to do an injector/pump learn with diagnostics. You need to do it everytime you replace or disturb the injection system (Most garages can do it) that will cure the hunting problem. Glad its worked for you 👍
G'day from across the pond, mate. Bewt video. Thank you. Can you give us the rundown on you conducted the deep clean on the rocker cover? And if you used any cleaning agents, steam etc?
hi mate sorry for the late reply! in short lots of brake cleaner and cloth using a a screwdriver to get deep into the tight bits. also used an air line to blow all the crap out till its nice and clean.
i have a proper parts washer now.
U could use the smoke machine show straight up must have with these engines cheap for what they are.
YES!!! Was meaning to come back and thank you for this. Did this repair myself. Turns out when I got the seal changed by my brilliant mechanic, one of his guys put a clamp upside down and that led to a terrible knock after a while. When I took the injectors out, one of the tips was swollen. Changed all 4. How the mechanic and his "technicians" didn't see that is beyond me...
Fantastic! Glad to hear you've fixed it!
No idea how they managed to do that 🤔 but at least it didn't damage the engine internally.
My transit is a pain to start if it starts at all. And there's abit of smoke coming out the oil filler and when it runs white smoke comes out the exhaust. I'm not a machanic but do you think it cus of these injectioner seals or shit around it like in this vid . Thanks.
Aluminium injector washers are better and use 620 loctite on both sides of the washer.
Also recut the seats in the head and use Nulon Pro Strength engine flush 500km before an oil change.
Never used the Aluminium washers myself but heard a few horror stories about them not sealing etc. Probably not fitted correctly but I will try it one day.
Hoping you see this question in time.. on the same engine as this I recently over tightened an injector bolt clamp as.didnt have a torque rench . Done all the work and got the broken bolt out . New rocker cover.gasket.. New injector seals etc.. now afraid of over tightening bolts . Should be 6 nm plus 180 . Currently got it 6nm not the 180 degrees.. but the van is running bad and smoking badly . Is that 180 degrees extra enough to make all that difference or likely to have a different problem . Many thanks
Yes that 180 is necessary as they are stretch bolts. They hold the injectors down firm enough so that exhaust gasses don't leak through and cause all the smoke etc.
@@lifes.projects thanks very much for a swift reply . Really appreciate it . Struggled to get.home from work as smoking and grumbling.. forced.now to go out and do 6nm and 180 degrees 😄
Hi Tom. Where do you get injector seals for 20p??
My suppliers. Sdl Minofern or Euro Car Parts. 20p each at trade price.
@@lifes.projects blimey.. have you seen the cost from the LR people.. theyre like £30 for four!!
Yes its a right rip off!!!
I priced everything up at Ford first and the circular Injector oil seals are £50 EACH!!! (£200 for 4 including VAT) 🤣. Fair to say i didn't get anything from them!! 🤣
@@lifes.projects bloody hell!!!! I still need those sets I think. I dont think they came in the Reinz engine set? Where can I get them for a reasonable price?
@@NigelsModellingBench Yes you will need them as its pointless fitting the old ones. Euro Car Parts came out cheapest but had to order them in. The injector oil seals still work out the most expensive at £15 each but not a patch on the Ford price 🤣. I will put the part numbers on tomorrow so its easier for you to ask for them. Although this is for a 2.2 I think they are the same but might be worth checking.
Thanks for that sir!
I have a lot of oul sitting on top of rocker cover and it sounds like a light chugging and minute missfire at idle seems to be number 1 and 2 injector could it be this mine is a 2015 Citroen relay 2.2 puma engine any advice appreciated
Great! I've also narrowed it down to the same issue on my Defender. Where's the video of you actually fixing it though (removing injectors, replacing seals, reinstalling)? Not seeing it in the video listing...
I didn't do a video fitting it all back together as i had already stripped it down. I wasn't going to even record it in all honesty but due to how popular its been I will do a full repair video on the next one I do. (Think I've done this on 5 vehicle since this video and never thought to record it 🤣)
Did you have to reseat the seats where the copper seals go? I got same probs and just bought the washer kits
@@FOXY-2023 No the seals come out with the injectors so just cleaned the seats up with a screwdriver and cloth.
Thankyou very much . I got exact engine but in a relay
A puma engine. Your info is brilliant and this video in particular has saved my bacon 🙂 . Many thanks
@@FOXY-2023 great stuff! Glad its helped you out 👍
2.2 engine with 28ok miles still running well what's high mileage for one of these it's 2015 in a Peugeot boxer
Check the copper washers with a magnet, you’ll never get copper plated steel to seat.
I do if I use a different supplier. I never fit those steel ones! Shouldn't be allowed to supply them!
Ive got a 2006 transit 2.4 duratorq rwd with quite a noticeable booming noise coming back out through the airbox. No loss of power and not smokey. Any ideas what could be causing this? Thanks
There is a little O ring that goes on the intake pipe from the airbox. Over time it splits and falls off. You can hear it vibrating.
Checked that but it seems ok, have you ever come across anything else that would cause this
Shot in the dark. I’ve had this issue a couple of times, does anyone know of the newer transit rocker covers have their own air filter system in it to allow the presssure escape?
If so mine doesn’t seem to work and I noticed they also sell the rocker cover online as well as gasket kits. Is there a common fault with the rocker cover, seems a strange item for loads of outlets to stock.
I cannot believe that someone thought it was a good idea to run injectors through the rocker cover....madness! :)
I can't believe a lot of ideas on modern stuff 🤣🤣
@@lifes.projects less chance of them getting stuck and breaking off in removal? just a guess 🤔
@@petermolnar8667 The one that was leaking was abit of a pain to get out but the others came out really easy.
Mate I have the Citroen relay with the same engine, Euro 5 tho' different injectors. Do you know the torque settings for the clamp bolts?
Off the top of my head no but just check to see if they are tight by hand first
Do you have to re cut the injector seats before replacing the copper washers. A mechanic told me I should re cut them. Cheers
Did you find answer mate?
Yes thanks. I had a garage do the job instead of doing it myself. Thank you
mine at 320k still going strong
where is the speed sensor located on the 6sp RWD transmission on Ford Transit LWB 2012 T155 2.2L?
Van goes into limp mode at 40mph with TCS dash light flashing. Diagnosed as wiring/faulty VSS, because (when goes into limp mode) all 4 wheel speed sensors report speed but VSS reports no data (0 mph).
Having just fitted a 2.4 Puma to my Defender, budget more like 6k for a Crated Short Engine? Mine was originally “just” an Injector fault! Great video on proper diagnostics!
Thank You! Glad You enjoyed it. 6k 😳!! I suppose if you had a brand new engine that makes sense. Just realised I didn't make myself clear as I was referring to a 2nd hand engine. I wouldn't mind getting an engine thats failed and do a video stripping it down to find out what went wrong and then re-building it.
Once the Defender is done I will look into that 😜
Hi I have a 2.2 euro5. I've recently changed injectors and its been running fine, over the last 2 days when I start from cold I get heavy blue smoke for 20 seconds and you can clearly hear the engine misfiring as it runs on the oil in the cylinders, after 20 seconds engine runs mint and will do so all day until the next morning where I will get the same blue smoke and misfire issue. I've pulled injectors and the seals don't look like they have been leaking, and I know I have only 1 working glow plug so I am in the process of replacing these aswell. The only issue I have found is I can see that piston 4 is wet but the others are dry. Could this be a cracked piston? Cheers
Hi. You have eliminated the injector seals be replacing them. Did you do a re-learn on the fuel pump? If not try that and see if it makes a differance. The only other thing it could be if its still doing it when you have replaced your heater plugs is valve stem oil seals. Basically when they have failed they allow oil to seep through and into the cylinder giving the blue smoke when started first thing if left for a few hours. If you had a cracked piston the engine would missfire / run lumpy and smoke all the time.
Hi Tom, Another really good video.
Thanks Simon. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello and thanks for this brilliant video, does such a problem cause the engine to rev to the highest possible rpm even without touching the pedal...?
Thank you. No thats usually the turbo seals that are leaking oil into the intake causing the engine to run on its own oil.
I had a similar issue on our 2.4 defender, there was a tapping sound above all the usual noises. On looking around the engine sitting on idle i saw the No.3 injector bouncing up and down like a mini pile driver. When i pulled the injector the bolts holding the clamp were loose, the copper washer was almost gone and the end of the injector was mushroomed. A new injector was needed and it wasn’t cheap.
Wow. I've come across them loose but never mushroomed! Injectors are a fortune for these but at least you got it sorted before it did more damage.
Had this issue with 2.4 Puma. Local garage had two goes at it, but not a long term fix - problem recurred. Sent to Transit specialist with same result. Decided to tackle it myself, and recut the cylinder head seats - gently by hand. Renewed the injectors with genuine seals and it has been a 100% success. Don’t use cheap copper washers, and ensure seats are clean to provide a seal.
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Thank you
Great video and a lot of sense spoken!
I've just got my transit mk7 back from garage, they said that it may need a new injector. But I think this could be the problem. When started, the engine was rocking all over the place and white smoke, I tightened the injector clamps and seem to run better now with no smoke, only trouble is that it starts up rough but then settles down after about 30secs.
I don't want to spend a fortune on it so may give this a go myself, do you have any other advice going by what I've describe above?
Thanks
If you tightened the injector and it stopped the smoking then i would replace the seals. You will need to do a fuel pump learn on it and that will sort the running issue out. The ecu adapts over time so whenever you do anything to the fuel system you need to re learn the pump.
@@lifes.projects appreciate the quick reply. Will do that. Thanks
Would be good to mention the injector seats would probably need cutting, the stretch bolts are recommended to be replaced as well, not sure of the quality of 20p injector washers
These didnt need cutting just a clean up and a blow out. The injector bolts can be used 3 times but couldnt get any as it was over xmas ( i keep them in stock usually but run out) the washers are fine i get them at trade and but in bulk thats why i get them so cheap.
@@lifes.projects hi I do not have a tool to cut the seats in just wondering how you cleaned yours as I will have a go at doing the same many thanks
@@leifallen2358 use a rag with a long screwdriver to clean it out. Be careful when using brake cleaner as it goes into the cylinder so obviously acts like easy start when you start it up for the first time. If the copper seal is stuck in use a flat head screw driver and push it through the hole to grip/remove the copper seal. Then clean
@@lifes.projects thank you very much I will crack on first thing
@@lifes.projects my apologies I forgot to ask is there any need to take off the rocker cover to change the seals and clean the seats or can I get away with leaving it on,, many thanks again
Hi, would you be able to give me an idea of how much i would expect to pay to have fuel injector seal kit fitted by a mechanic...my van runs beautiful but some fuel is pooling on the rocker cover from two injectors. My van is a peugeot boxer 2.2 tdi year 2010.....Thank you very much....... great video by the way. David
looks lik you know a fair it about 2.2 , what is the cause of tapping noise when cold? the engine runs great , just this noise , It can be one of the injectors , or tappet , to loud for the injector and to frquent in my oppinion,
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I've just changed these injectors on a 2.2 transit. You could clearly see the injectors bubbling oil up through rocker cover injector seals , that engine also had a cracked pisyon
Hi there thanks for that vid I think I have i similar problem as my land rover is leaking from the same place is there any way you could show the process you would do to resolve this cheers
No problem. Until I come across another unfortunately no. However to replace the rocker cover gasket you need to remove the injectors and replace all the seals and gaskets anyway so my advise would be if order everything and do it all in one go. I am putting a list together of all the part numbers that are required to do this job. Hope this helps
@@lifes.projects cheers Tom
I’m getting poor fuel economy with my mk8 2.2 van, was fine but all of a sudden, it’s poor, van seems to run ok, but I’m watching the fuel gauge go down, could never see it go down before, I no they don’t drop then all of a sudden they go, I’m getting around 15 mpg , any ideas please
Would you recommend a sump clean after as my van had the same problem. Due to the last owner not doing the oil change because he couldn't get the filter housing off he sold a 2010 Transit to me for spares or repairs. Needed a new turbo .( So I thought) After a new turbo, glow plugs and a few other things I decided to remove the cam cover only to find the rocker bridge was fecked due to lack of oil . Didn't tell me he didn't add any more oil to the van until it had died .. sorry about my writing as I've just started to read and write again after a stroke.
If the sump is removed best to clean with brake cleaner, however if theres been lack of oil at the top end then chances are there will be more internal damage/wear. May be worth doing some serious investigating before putting any more money into that engine
@@lifes.projectsyes you are right. I didn't see any metal in the oil . I think I just caught it on time. Plenty of power and it doesn't seem to burn anymore oil .
Mines doing same leaking back pressure leaking (drip) from oil cap changed injectors aswell do you think could be rocker gasket making it back pressure smoking like he'll after injectors changed been told cracked piston thanks
When you put the injectors back, what torque did you go to.
6nm then 180 degrees
Where abouts in Yorkshire are you? I'm looking for a good independent garage that knows the 2.2 engine.
Hi Boss
Do you know if after removing injectors you will have to reprgramm them to ecu ?
Ford transit 2.0 tdci , fifa, 2004, 125 h
Just wanna rmove injectors and have a look at them / clean them which i can manage but i wont manage configuring it all with scanner and laptop
Cheers mate.
If you put them back in the same place you don't have to recode them. It is best practice to reset the fuel learning with diagnostic but if you have no running issues and just want to clean them you should be fine
@@lifes.projects Ty for your reply
i actually do have running issues
what is resetting fuel training sorry ?
error codes p2291 and po251
I have the same problem and I was thinking could it be leaking by the copper washer. I Been told by many friends who know a bit about cars saying the engine had it and don't waste your time taking it apart
Have a look at my other video. I show you how to diagnose if it is the copper injector seal. Should give you a better idea
Hi I had the same problem got the injector seals done but six months later it happened again. Any ideas of what it could be. Garage seems to think it need new engine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. ( Ford transit 2.2 )
Could this problem also cause the front crank seal to leak? I've just fitted a new front crank seal and its still pixxing oil out from the seal, Quite a lot of pressure from the filler cap. This problem could cause a fire quite easily if I can't fix It😂
Could be as the pressure from the injectors will cause it to leak at the weakest place. Only other thing is a faulty seal of damaged when fitting.
@@lifes.projects Thanks, I'm guessing crank pressure as the clutch has also started to judder🙈I'll give the seals a go and let you know later in the comments👍
2.2 transit custom 2016 - torque for the stretch bolts? Would this cause smoke on startup?
I read that the Defender Pumas have a modified cylinder head compared to the Ford Transit. Is that true?
My citroen relay with this engine had so much crankcase pressure, it was forcing oil out through the turbo seals. was just going to try and keep it going for a couple of months and then scrap it. Twenty quid in parts and a couple of hours work, and it's good as new: no smoke from the oil filler cap, and no leaks from the turbo. Thank You soo much for sharing this.
@@remop-z9l Great Stuff! Glad its back working for you 👍
Is it the same engine in a mondeo mk3 st ???
Hi mate I have a 2.4L 2011 RWD transit she has 216k, I recently had a turbo & alternator fitted all good there. But then I started getting “water in fuel indicator” turn it off it goes away & doesn’t come on for a few hours/days, I’ve been losing slight power when I’m in 1st & 2nd gear but when get it to 3rd power it there I have some white smoke coming from my oil cap also any idea?
Egr coolar failure
Thank God for people like yourself
Thank you 👍
Have an oil leak coming from the seals and injectors now there is a bit of light smoke coming out iswell what is this
Would glow plug not sealing properly cause same fault
Not really. If comprssion is leaking past a glow plug then its either loose or the threads are damaged.
Also the glow plug is on the outside of the engine to combustion wouldnt leak internally
Almost word for word what I got from a garage "your engine is shot mate, it's pressurising. You need a new engine mate" like your friend i had no loss of power no warning lights nothing...turns out it was something to do with the rocker rail so I had it replaced and guess what? No pressurising and no more smoke. Always get a second opinion if you can that's what I've learnt.
Good to hear 👍 saved youself some money there.
Hi.
I have a 2.2 transit mk7 2012 with a loud diesel knock. The mechanic tells me it’s a injector issue and there is oil chuffing out the oil cap filler. But how do you know which injector is bad?
Try doing a leak off test. That will show you if you have a bad injector.
my landrover 2.4 engine is presurising on coolent side aparrently need another engine, no water in oil
Check the egr cooler. I had bypassed a few now that had cracked and was presurising the cooling system
Same do it the 2.0 hdi on my Citroen C5.It was changed maybe 2× times.If this copper seal its gone probably smelling with fuel in the cab..if you turning on your cabin ventilation.At some engine can hear the little blow noisy..no good to keep at that way long time,cause after its a problem take off the injector...burned in.
Yes do it asap! The 1.6 and 1.4 pug/citroen engines do it and they seize in. Done loads of them!
When you take out the injectors, is there the possibility of the copper seals falling off the end, then into the engine or just into bottom of hole ? Thanks.
Yes there is a possibility. The hole is only half way down so if the washer falls off it can go in between the camshafts. You are very unlucky if this happens but its quite possible
@@lifes.projects Thanks.
Just saw this and thanks for posting just a question if you have the blow by coming from the dipstick tube (bottom end) is this still an injector or more likely piston?
Usually the injector seals. You get a little bit of blow but its the smokey blow you are looking for.
If it sounds and runs ok then i would change them first as trying something less than £100 is deffo worth trying before buying an engine.
Have a look at my part 2 Video on my channel
hi Tom I know this is a while ago just wondering if you have ever heard or diagnosed the noise I am currently having with my mk7 2.4 rwd t350 it's a tapping noise I qas going to send a video of it but not sure how to on here mate
Theres a few things I've come across. Oil pump failure/failing causing lack of oil to the tappets, Timing chain tensioner failure to the chain isnt as tight as it should be so rattles, the other thing is the Fuel metering valve that causes the injectors to rattle like mad (usually only on tickover)
Two of these were gone on the Transit I got last year. Made a massive difference. It looked like someone had re-used damaged seals.
Just curious, is that a Yorkshire accent?
Yes it is. When I can get my words out that is 🤣
It is a Yorkshire accent but not a really broad one, the accent does differ in different areas. A few miles down the road it becomes really broad and words like thee and thi, floower ( floor), doower (door) are used🤣🤣
Anyone know if there’s a breather in the rocker cover Of the 2.2 (2014) that can get blocked up after one of these seals failing?
No not come across it
My 2013 Boxer came up with lo oil pressure on friday, but before that it occasionally hesitated on acceleration and occasional puff white smoke or black not often
The smoke and lack of power I would say is your DPF regenerating. Have you checked the oil level? I would look into that asap
Brilliant video. Thanks for the explanation of the issue and why you need regular oil changes.
Thank you
Any idea of the torque settings for the holding stretch bolts that go on the saddle type bits anyone? Cant find them anywhere and ford are 'shifty' about sharing info!
Yes they are 6nm and then 180 Degrees
Hi mate brilliant video really helpful just a quick one I've noticed my transit is using oil lately and there's is no evidence of a leak anywhere when I first start It sometimes has a slight rough idle bearly noticeable I took the oil cap off while running and it has steam/smoke puffing out any ideas what it could be there's bearly any smoke from exhaust unless I floor it and sometimes on cold start up there's slight blue smoke but the oil is going somewhere cheers
Hi mate. Have a look at part 2 of how to diagnose if the injector seal is leaking. From what youve described it sounds like its starting to leak. The starting could be down to a heater plug however give the hot weather weve had lately its sounds more like the seals.
Click on my channel and have a look at part 2. It will give you a good idea what you are looming for
Just got a van cheap as chips, same shitty injectors come out, hope this cures it.
Top tips , if the copper washer is stuck in the hole cut a piece of 8mm threaded bar about 12 inches long , grind the end to form a gentle point . Pop down the injector hole and turn by hand the thread will cut into the copper washer and you can pull it out. Tip 2 use a long knitting needle or long screwdriver to slide the new washer down the bore and into place . Tip 3 get a mechanic to do the job because you will cut your hand to pieces and pray god curses the guy that designed such crap.
The last one 😂😂
Nice video mate 👍
I have just fixed my (dead) engine.
Was exactly what you mentioned.
Smoking from the oil cap etc...
Now is like a new again.
5£ seals Plus torque wrench £25.
Torque wrench will stay in the garage waiting for another job 😜
Fantastic well done. Glad its back on the road 👍
With this sort of problem, it may also have damage to the injector seat for the copper washer. Worth doing a seat reface at the time you replace the washers. These tools are cheap to buy.
I always check but most of the time the seats clean up fine. Ive only had to reface a few but i agree deffo worth having the tool just incase
Would doing this help stop a white smoke cloud on startup in cold weather? Thanks!
Possibly as it might be the oil that dripped into the cylinder and is igniting. However white smoke is usually a sign of coolant so i would be checking the egr cooler as they are common for failure. Remove the pipes and connect them together so the cooler is bypassed. Then see how your smoking issue is as a few cold starts
Mine was a blowen engine hole in piston due to faulty glow plug
Hi mate i have Ford transit 2014 Broken turbo has been fixed but now Kip smooching and losing oil what can be ? Thanks
When you say broken turbo what actually happened?
if the turbo seal let go on the exhaust side the exhaust will be full of oil and will smoke for quite a while until it burns away.
if it let on the intake side you will have to remove the intake pipes and intercooler and clean them out
@@lifes.projects yes but I loose oil from engine
Can you help whats torque strength bolts for injectors best regards.
6nm and then turn 180 degrees.
Be careful as the bolts can only be used twice. If any doubt replace them. They are cheap enough from the dealers
Hi, could I have your opinion please? Had a smokey engine, 2.4 puma in a 2011 defender, for ages until my mechanic worked out it was the turbo putting oil into the engine. All good, new uprated turbo and engine ran great, for about three months. Now smoking again, down on power and a different sound to the engine, metalic is how I'd describe it, and smoke from the breather on the left of the head when unclipped. Two mechanics say I need an engine rebuild. Now I watched this video I wonder could it be an injector? Thanks!
Yes it could be an injector seal. Remove the oil cap and see if you can hear a puffing noise. This is a tell tale sign of injector seal failure. Another thing that can cause smoke and power loss is a faulty EGR valve.
@@lifes.projects ok thanks for that. I'll give it a go.
Great video! I've got a troublesome 2.2 FWD Mk7 with similar issues. Just wondering, would a leak off test diagnose bad injector gasket seals? also if I have to go down this route how did you de-grease the rocker cover gasket? cheers.
Hi Andy. No I doubt a leak off test would diagnose this as the injector is still doing its job its just the copper compression seal that failed. I picked most of the tick oil and diesel out the rocker cover with a flat blade screwdriver and loads of cloth before decreasing and washing off properly with degreaser, brake cleaner and a small paint brush. I've since bought a parts washer as I just can't do with not having one anymore 🤣.
Thanks! As an engine builder I almost also mis diagnosed my friend's Defender Puma. 2 injectors came loose (same bracket). Just cranked the engine and it threw smoke from the oil cap.
Great stuff! Glad its helped you out and another Puma engine saved 👍
@lifesprojects8331 absolutely!
Would really like to see the air purging on a direct injection engine after you have had it all apart. Is it the same as the old style? Thanks for the video, my Defender 2013 2.2 is
going fine at 200000km, always good to keep an eye out though!
No these common rails work completely different to the old diesel engine. Good stuff look after it with plenty of servicing and it will look after you. Thanks for watching 👌
Thanks for this video!
I scrapped a transit because of this. With my "new" transit i noticed a leak and did some more research. I'm replacing the seals right now!
Thank you. No way! Thats a shame but at least you know now. Have a look at part 2 where you can see how to diagnose it 👍
haw2.4 engine def jeep replesed 2.2 engine pls tel me
Absolutely awesome advice as I think I’m having the same problem with my truck 👌👌 oil pissing down the back of the engine but my truck still runs great I’ll definitely be checking this 👌👌
More than likely this. It causes loads of issues. Have a look at part 2 on how to diagnose it ony videos
Sound mate will do 👌👌
Would this also cause there to be too much pressure coming out of the dipstick?
Yes exactly the same as removing the oil cap. It just causes excess pressure in general.
Hi, is it possible this problem goes along with a lot of white smoke, oil loss (about 1liter/100km) and pressure on the oil cap?
My mechanic told me to put a new engine in it as well.
But it feels weird to throw away the engine because it rides and sounds smoothly.
Thanks for the video btw!
Yes thats what happens. Compression leaks through the washers when the engines running causing pressure through the oil cap and oil leaks back in causing it to burn through the exhaust
Thanks a lot for making this video. I bought an old transit and made it into a little weekend camper. Put quite a lot of time and money into it.
On my first trip in Spain I got the problem described in the video. (I suspect the seller knew there was a problem) A local mechanic told me a new engine was the only option. The car originally cost me about the same as the price of the new engine (the engine in Spain was a lot more expensive than you estimated in the video) so I was almost ready to sell the car broken or have it scrapped untill I saw this video.
Against the explicit advice of the mechanic I told him to just replace these seals. It cost me a total of €130 and worked like magic, I drove over 2000 km home without the least bit of smoke and no oil loss.
If you ever come to Ghent, Belgium drinks and dinner are on me!
Hi Tom .What is your experiance how easy to remove this injectors. My no3 aroung the simmering seal i can see some oil mist .I may thinking to pull it out to check the copper and rep[lace the o ring in the cover.
They are usually pretty easy to remove. Just be careful that the copper seal doesn't drop into the rocker cover, fit the injectors in the same cylinder as removed and replace the rubbers, injector seal and replace the injector bots for new ones (torque setting is 8nm then 360 degrees)
@@lifes.projects thx. Yep i wanted to replace no3 but unfortunately my delphi 2017 doesnt give me the option to code the injector. I dont know why. In the demo it has a service menu where you can select and code the nozzle ,but in the real live version only getting read dtc /delete/ and live data.
@@chiccoka I have a Delphi and I hardly use it due to the same issues especially with transits. Really disappointed in it. Not as good as most of the other diagnostics on the market.
Hi, maybe you might be able to help with my mk7 2.4 transit, I have had vapour valve replaced, but still has a rattle, diesel knock when you accelerate from idle and some times on idle along with a throbbing noise like a chinook but then dissappears, as regards acceleration the knocking noise stays until you are above 1500 rpm, when the noise is present it has little power
Any ideas would be great
I replace fuel metering valves, pressure relief valve (end of the fuel rail) and fuel pressure sensor regular. Similar faults to what you describe with loud diesel knock and lack of power. Better off checking for any fault codes first
@@lifes.projects hi, I have nothing on dashboard and no fault codes at all, I am thinking maybe a failing injector, I don't know
@@royvowles7142 could be yes. Have you got a boost leak? Try doing a leak off test on the injectors. That will show you for sure if you have a bad injector
@@lifes.projects didn't even think about boost issue, got a leak off kit so will do that over weekend
Kudos to you for finding this....do you not think the engineering is very poor on these machines.
This part of them yes. Especially the injector clamp and bolt
Sorry to be a pain but from a British Aerospace Engineer's perspective the materials are not really for for purpose. @@lifes.projects
GOOD MAN,A GOOD TO THE POINT WAY OF SORTING IT
What flush do you recommend? Mines dropped an injector and it’s misfiring, but oils sludgy
Wynns, Forte are the ones i generally use
@@lifes.projects what’s chances of it damaging bearings with oil congealing? It’s not super thick but it’s on its way.. last oil change was about 5000 ago when it was remapped.. it’s 2016 transit ex jcb van
@@lukegadd4988 well a flush should clear out the oil galleries. If your concerned it damaging it then do an oil and filter change with fresh oil and flush it
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Great video. I have an issue with my 2014 transit custom, intermittent white/blue smoke. Could this cause this problem? Cheers.
White and blue? The blue/black smoke would point to this issue but not usually white. How is your coolant level? Do you have to top up regular?
@@lifes.projects coolant is ok. I’ve had DPF, PCV valve, injectors refurbed, and still got intermittent issue. Power is still there. It’s driving me insane.
Also had rocker cover replaced.
@@graemem1394 ah right if yyouve had all that done then i cant see it been the injector seal. The other thing ive had a problem with is the fuel vaporiser thats in the dpf. If they block up they cause lack of power etc
Great video, thanks for sharing.
Why does this not surprise me with a Ford engine.
Haha theres no surprise with Fords lately 🤣. Keep you eye on the channel if you like Ford Transits. Got a really good video coming regarding these engines.
How does the copper washer seal go on? Mine look like they’ve got glue on them? I’m lost
You literally place it on the injector, put it in the engine and torque up the bolt. The glue might be dry diesel thats crept past the washer.
@@lifes.projects I think it’s actually sealant from a bad repair.
New injectors in and seemingly much much improved.
Thank you for your response (putting my mind at rest) and your video!
@@nat123hirst oh right. If it is thats sealant then its certainly a bodge. Thats great glad its ok. No problem thank you for watching 👍
Nice one, done it, thanks
great info Tom thank you, my 2010 2.4 transit has just started ticking , ten minutes later it turned into knocking sounds got louder then I shut it down. Tried restarting it and it ran very rough, any ideas where to look? Niko.
Check the injector bolts are tight. They come loose over time. ( dont over tighten the bolt 8nm + 360 is the torque setting)
Check your oil level.
Also hows the oil pressure?
@@lifes.projects Mate, your legend!! it was the back two injectors, the bolt was loose. I tighten back up and all is good. Now question should I be pulling the injectors out and changing the copper washes and gaskets or just leave it as is? Oil pressure was ok only got the one injector code on forscan.
@@DemopVWgarage Fantastic! Yes i would deffo remove all the injectors and replace the copper seals. Fit new injector bolts too as they are prone for snapping and can only be used 3 times. Glad you've fixed it 👍
@@lifes.projects Thanks Tom, I'll order a kit now, wish me luck getting them out as my 2.4 transit is a rwd version and there jack room to get in there ;)
@@DemopVWgarage Yes it a little Fiddly 🤣 Good Luck!!. Remember to change the oil soon as the diesel will have mixed with the oil 👍
Hi just wanted to ask I have a 2015 plate transit van 2.2 getting no response on cylinder 4 just wanted to ask ur opinion on it coz the guy at the garage said it needs new engine
If there in no compression then something has gone wrong with the cylinder/valves. It would need the engine stripping to find out the fault or the engine replacing. I did one earlier in year on a 15 plate custom. No compression on cylinder 4 so replaced the engine
@@lifes.projects thanks for the advice the engine starts up and ticks over and can Rev up like normal but cylinder 4 anit got no response u think it might be that rocker cover gasket and the injecter gaskets and Cooper gasket ring u think that will work mate
Or do u have any one who has a engine for sale wood be a big help mate
@@robertbrazier6356 Its hard to say without looking at it. They suffer with injectors and that causes engine damage. You need to ask if theres any compression. Thats really the only reason why your engine would need replacing.
@@robertbrazier6356 not at the moment. The only ones that usually have one are the big insurance breakers that are nationwide (synetic, copart etc)
My 2.2 ranger has oil round the injector would the seals cause oil to get pass the injector?
No not always. If its just around the top its usually just the oil seal thats failed. Another reason could be the injector bolts coming loose allowing the injector to move slightly causing oil to seep through ( injector bold torque is 8nm + 180 degrees) dont over tighten them or they will snap. Clean it off and see how long it takes to pool up. To change the oil seal you need to remove the injector so the seals would need to be replaced anyway.
@@lifes.projects I’ve tightened them up and clean them the other day and there puddles there again,
@@samuelsmales3776 Ah right deffo the oil seals that have failed.
So parts list is
4x injectors seals (copper washers)
4x injector oil seals
2x injectors bolts
Replace these and put the injectors in the same place as you removed and that should cure it.
@@lifes.projects I got a oil leak coming from the top and I can’t pin point the areas, you got any suggestions?
@@samuelsmales3776 most likely rocker cover gasket. The other leak ive come across is from the cam carrier. Its a silicone fit around the cam carrier edge of the cylinder head. Quite a difficult one to explain but if you look just below the rocker cover you will see the silicone between the aluminium.