Great Video! Can you please make a video on MacOs file management for music production. I’m new to Mac Os and find it’s way of handling files very confusing compared to Windows. I am almost considering a clean install of MacOs because of the temporary files eating up my hard drive and lost plugins after moving my Native Instrument library to a new SSD
I always update on day one of updates and never have a problem. I also do not rely on creating music for my income. My habits might in general help everyone have a more stable system. Firstly, never use hardware that requires drivers. That also means they are core audio compliant. A driver can't be incompatible if there is no driver. Second, I pay close attention to software vendors whose software tends to break with new system updates. I simply will not use their offerings. Fabfilter good, Slate bad. In using things that have a history of not breaking and avoiding software that has a history of new-system incompatibilities has this hobbyist worry free since the very first Mac came out in 1984 all the way through to today.
Very good tips that can help save you a lot of time and troubles in case of incompatibility e.g. with Logic! Thanks very much for these suggestions. 💪🏻👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
I have an issue with Logic 11 and Sonoma, when saving a session... The finder folder view doesn't show even after clicking on the disclosing magnifying arrow to enlarge the folder options available. It only shows the drop down menu of last folders that can be selected. Not sure if this is a bug or am I missing something, as this usually worked fine earlier.
Thanks for sharing your insight Chris. I'd like to add (if you didn't already) that it's very wise to NOT upgrade anything (MacOS, Logic Pro, etc.) when you're in the middle of project or gig. I've done this before and it turned into a nightmare with Logic Pro issues galore.
I have my installed MacOS on a fast external SSD (Thunderbolt connection). If I would update MacOS, I have the option to use a new SSD in the external enclosure. That way, I have the previous installation ready to swap when needed. That would take me probably less than 10 minutes. And if I don't need to go back to the previoud Msc OS, then I have a bootable backup which you can never have too many of. Extra benefits: I don't have to pay for Apple's SSD upgrades when getting a new Mac.
A far better advice is to follow the one year rule. That is to work from the assumtion that you should always stay one year behind on the OS. This is especially important, when dealing with audio software. Most other types of software (video editors, graphics, spreadsheets, etc.) only require that the application itself is compatible. This isn't true for DAWs, though. They rely on software (drivers, plugins, etc.) from lots of different vendors, to work reliably together. When a new OS version is released, start checking the websites of all the manufactures of software you rely on (even those that you have recieved compatibility mails from). If there is one vendor that you can't comfirm compatibility from, after one year, contact the vendors support. Not only should you check for compatibility with your OS, but compatibility with your DAW as well. Once you have confirmed compatibility for ALL software you use, then it's time to upgrade. NOT before! All the sexy new features are useless, if they crash your DAW. Of cause, all the advice about thoroughly backing up everything, before upgrading, is still vital!
The one year rule is a great method as well! I just like to update a little more regularly so I have developed this method that allows me to do that but also always be able to revert if something breaks.
Another point to add, test your backups. Aka do a Restore. The amount of people I know who backup, but have never even tested their DR process is crazy. Don't wait until it breaks!
This is the reason why engineers are picky about which company’s plugins we buy. Quick turnaround time on Mac updates and continued support are built into the pricing structure of purchasing plugins & should be heavily considered when buying!
2 rules....... Never update without a reason, there almost never is a reason good enough and worth the risk. Wait a few months at least and don't forget the update for your current os. Scroll down the will appear inder the latest update (when you check the orange dot and see Sanoma for example there could be a Ventura update waiting. People think they need to turn off auto update (this is not necessary major update wil ask you anyway to install) i know its scary but I am not kidding....
Chris, I have an intel machine but would like to update to Logic 11. I gather the stem splitting and chromaverb will not work but should I do it at all? I cannot really justify buying a new computer. What are your thoughts?
Yes that is true, but I think it is worth it for the updated drummer and the new bass and keyboard session players. Especially if you are a songwriter or producer.
@@sangstersounds hackintosh is complicated but I like tech so made it from scratch by watching TH-cam video about how to follow the guide of dortina opencore And after many failure I finally was able to make it possible...i leart that a problem aolving mindset is necessary to do all these stuff as its high chance that you will fail at the first boot to install it... Hardware plays the main role in this, right hardware can even make your system more powerful that a real mac
@@wawztzta8296 I love iLok. But this could be Kontakt, UVI, UA, Roland C etc etc. If you rely on the studio then it's a different story. I rarely update fast, not because of fear, but more that I'm not bothered about the crap they are adding. I can live without a dark mode or a new smiley face :)
I have a love hate relationship with iLok. I hate having to rely on it (and having to update the manager every time I open it) but then when I want to work on the go it is a life saver.
Thanks for this. Logic 11 has apparently reworked the samples on some of their instruments. Any word on how this would affect me if I have instances of these instruments on Logic X? Thanks again.
Great Video! Can you please make a video on MacOs file management for music production. I’m new to Mac Os and find it’s way of handling files very confusing compared to Windows. I am almost considering a clean install of MacOs because of the temporary files eating up my hard drive and lost plugins after moving my Native Instrument library to a new SSD
Thanks! Great suggestion! I will try to think of a good way to present that information.
Thanks for the video. I've been on macOS since April and not too many talks about this from a audio production standpoint. Great video.
Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the video!
I got burned on the Sonoma 14.4 update. Lesson learned
My mics are not working 💀
I always update on day one of updates and never have a problem. I also do not rely on creating music for my income. My habits might in general help everyone have a more stable system. Firstly, never use hardware that requires drivers. That also means they are core audio compliant. A driver can't be incompatible if there is no driver. Second, I pay close attention to software vendors whose software tends to break with new system updates. I simply will not use their offerings. Fabfilter good, Slate bad. In using things that have a history of not breaking and avoiding software that has a history of new-system incompatibilities has this hobbyist worry free since the very first Mac came out in 1984 all the way through to today.
Very good tips that can help save you a lot of time and troubles in case of incompatibility e.g. with Logic! Thanks very much for these suggestions. 💪🏻👍🏻👏🏻🙏🏻
Very welcome! Glad it was helpful!
Still on Ventura. I’ll update to Sonoma on its last day when it’s still current this Fall. Rinse repeat next year.
I like your thought process!
Thanks. This will certainly give me more peace of mind when updating.
You are very welcome! Glad to help!
This really puts thing's in perspective.
The topic is so important and I've never seen it covered quite this way. THX
Thanks so much!
Sonoma 14.5 & Logic Pro 11 on an M1 MacBook Pro. Flawless.
I have an issue with Logic 11 and Sonoma, when saving a session... The finder folder view doesn't show even after clicking on the disclosing magnifying arrow to enlarge the folder options available. It only shows the drop down menu of last folders that can be selected. Not sure if this is a bug or am I missing something, as this usually worked fine earlier.
@@bassinnovaofficial I’ll try to recreate that to see if I come up with similar results.
@@chartbreakers999 I finally figured it out. You just have to click and drag the corner to expand it. As simple as that! :)
Thanks for sharing your insight Chris. I'd like to add (if you didn't already) that it's very wise to NOT upgrade anything (MacOS, Logic Pro, etc.) when you're in the middle of project or gig. I've done this before and it turned into a nightmare with Logic Pro issues galore.
Very good point! I don't think I articulated that clearly enough in the video but that is MASSIVELY important
I have my installed MacOS on a fast external SSD (Thunderbolt connection). If I would update MacOS, I have the option to use a new SSD in the external enclosure. That way, I have the previous installation ready to swap when needed. That would take me probably less than 10 minutes. And if I don't need to go back to the previoud Msc OS, then I have a bootable backup which you can never have too many of. Extra benefits: I don't have to pay for Apple's SSD upgrades when getting a new Mac.
Nice! Thanks for sharing! That sounds like a super smart way to go about it
this guy explains everything so well. another great video.
Thanks so mcuh!
A far better advice is to follow the one year rule. That is to work from the assumtion that you should always stay one year behind on the OS. This is especially important, when dealing with audio software. Most other types of software (video editors, graphics, spreadsheets, etc.) only require that the application itself is compatible. This isn't true for DAWs, though. They rely on software (drivers, plugins, etc.) from lots of different vendors, to work reliably together.
When a new OS version is released, start checking the websites of all the manufactures of software you rely on (even those that you have recieved compatibility mails from). If there is one vendor that you can't comfirm compatibility from, after one year, contact the vendors support.
Not only should you check for compatibility with your OS, but compatibility with your DAW as well. Once you have confirmed compatibility for ALL software you use, then it's time to upgrade. NOT before! All the sexy new features are useless, if they crash your DAW.
Of cause, all the advice about thoroughly backing up everything, before upgrading, is still vital!
The one year rule is a great method as well! I just like to update a little more regularly so I have developed this method that allows me to do that but also always be able to revert if something breaks.
Just updated to Sonoma and LP 11.
I went ahead with the Sonoma update and Logic Pro 11 straight away…..no problem so far.
How much is the Logic Pro 11? Will my logic projects and songs translate right into the new version of logic?
@@Celticsaint777 Logic Audio Pro 11 is free if you already have Logic Audio Pro 10. All your existing stuff will work in 11.
Another point to add, test your backups. Aka do a Restore. The amount of people I know who backup, but have never even tested their DR process is crazy. Don't wait until it breaks!
GREAT POINT! Thanks for sharing
This is the reason why engineers are picky about which company’s plugins we buy. Quick turnaround time on Mac updates and continued support are built into the pricing structure of purchasing plugins & should be heavily considered when buying!
Very true! Great point
Nice !!
Compressing the application as a back up was a good tip :).
Glad it was helpful!
This is EXACTLY WHAT i was needing to know. Thank you for this gold🙏🙏🙏🙏
Awesome! You are very welcome!
Very useful and well explained. thank you🙏🏽
Glad to help!! Thanks!
Hi Chris, do you have a video where you show how to do a Mac OS update?👍🏾
To update the macOS just download from the app store and then run the installer. As for reverting to an old os I do not have a video on that yet.
Still on Ventura, I’m afraid some plugins will still break
Totally understand this fear. Hopefully this video gave you some ideas on how to ease the transition if you decide to make it!
Chris, you earned my sub. with this. Keep this type of content coming!!! 👊😉
Thanks so much!
2 rules....... Never update without a reason, there almost never is a reason good enough and worth the risk. Wait a few months at least and don't forget the update for your current os. Scroll down the will appear inder the latest update (when you check the orange dot and see Sanoma for example there could be a Ventura update waiting. People think they need to turn off auto update (this is not necessary major update wil ask you anyway to install) i know its scary but I am not kidding....
Chris, I have an intel machine but would like to update to Logic 11. I gather the stem splitting and chromaverb will not work but should I do it at all? I cannot really justify buying a new computer. What are your thoughts?
Yes that is true, but I think it is worth it for the updated drummer and the new bass and keyboard session players. Especially if you are a songwriter or producer.
@@sangstersounds thanks, as it happens, it automatically updated. It is fine without those features…
Yes to add, do you have a video of how to do a Mac OS Backup?
I don't. I would follow the article I linked if you need help with it. I will considering making a video on it in the future
This guy and the knowledge he has is endless and I’m now a pro mixer due to this guy
Thanks buddy!
@@sangstersounds anytime bro
i have hackintosh running ventura , logic 11
Nice! I've always been interested in the hackintosh scene but have never had the nerve to jump in
@@sangstersounds hackintosh is complicated but I like tech so made it from scratch by watching TH-cam video about how to follow the guide of dortina opencore
And after many failure I finally was able to make it possible...i leart that a problem aolving mindset is necessary to do all these stuff as its high chance that you will fail at the first boot to install it...
Hardware plays the main role in this, right hardware can even make your system more powerful that a real mac
Thanks Chris, These are type of videos we all need to see.
Glad to help!
Is it safe to update to Sonoma?
I have updated to Sonoma 14.5 without any issues!
Thank you Jesus !
Peace be with you
Session Musicians loading is real slow ?
I haven't experienced that, but I have noticed that launching Logic 11 with Rosetta enabled is incredibly slow.
I found the fix 😊
seems like it used to be way more of an issue back in the day than it is now. i used to be paranoid but now i dont really care.
The iLok issue was only a few weeks ago. They can, and still do break things
@@ElectroPanPipes oh ive long since sworn off anything ilok related and never looked back lol
@@wawztzta8296 I love iLok. But this could be Kontakt, UVI, UA, Roland C etc etc. If you rely on the studio then it's a different story. I rarely update fast, not because of fear, but more that I'm not bothered about the crap they are adding. I can live without a dark mode or a new smiley face :)
I have a love hate relationship with iLok. I hate having to rely on it (and having to update the manager every time I open it) but then when I want to work on the go it is a life saver.
@@sangstersounds feel like it “working” is just it not being in the way, which you get a 100% of the time by not having it at all
Thanks for this. Logic 11 has apparently reworked the samples on some of their instruments. Any word on how this would affect me if I have instances of these instruments on Logic X? Thanks again.
I'm not sure... I will have to check into this. Thanks for alerting me.