Thank you for demonstrating how it looks when shifting side to back to side to stomach. This is how I sleep, and I watched with great interest. Thanks for posting.
It’s like a floating bed! Looks comfortable and cozy The rain fly can be secured in an open position too When the rain fly is in the closed position, it looks a little awkward to get out in the middle of the night Looking forward to seeing your little adjustments and to see you use it overnight Great demo and take care 🇨🇦❤️🍁
I’ve never hammock camped and that’s partly due to the sleeping position I’ve always presumed you’d need to assume. This looks to solve that and does appear comfortable. More a suspended tent than a hammock, I like it. Cheers Mark
Hi Oscar, Alex here from Derbyshire. I’ve seen you loads on Daniel’s channel so thought I’d give yours a go. I instantly saw you have the Haven. Congrats. It’s good to see someone else English who has one. I’ve had my XL for a year now & used it many times. I’m 6ft 1 and an average dad bod build - I got the XL for the extra length and to spread out - however I think because I’m not a larger stocky bulky guy I should have got the standard - not the XL. I absolutely love the product but because I’m slimmer I have to have the pad inflated to the max or I get a V crease all the way along the middle of the pad. This causes the pad to be rock solid and makes it then uncomfy to sleep on. But if I deflate a little I then get the V crease and it scrunches my shoulders in. I’m going to try the pad cover they do to see if it will give me a bit more cushion padding - if that fails I’ll get the standard size one. They say bigger stocky people will fit the XL properly as their weight and size will fill the pad properly. But slimmer people should get the none XL - but I’ll have to sacrifice that lovely extra width… I love the flat lay and the space & that it’s an all in one water proof solution with just a couple of clips it’s up and running. Just a slight tip to you - be careful that your backpack doesn’t lean any weight on the spreader bars - I’ve seen people pull on them or have excess weight in them and it’s caused the poles to bend. Just make sure the backpack isn’t resting on them. Have subscribed - cheers.
Wow.. what a comment. Love the Haven literally slept like a log friday night! Yeah im gonma grab the pad cover and ISB lights i think. Ive git the XL as im 15 stone. But broad! No issues so far. Some things im going to do. As i love to tinker with stuff. So watch out for that. Ps sorry for late reply. Got a premiere out tonight. 8pm UK
Alex, I have an EX and use the Thermarest Mondoking 3D self inflating pad in it. Fits great and has a bit better thermal rating. Since I use the Haven for car and motorcycle camping thats not a problem.
Hi Oscar, I have the xl Haven, at 72 it needs to be easier! Had a couple of problems with mat closing up and shifting, I'm thinking about getting heavy duty self adhesive velcro to fix the mat to the hammock base ? It does need a bit of tweaking but I'll work it out. Great vids mate .Cheers jv
Not a fan of the rain fly, I like a big fly so I have a good size admin area. That being said the units own rain fly with an additional larger rain fly would be great, use a larger fly to keep the rain off and the units own fly to keep the wind off by dropping one side or the other or both depending on wind direction 👍👍👍cracking review as always
Thanks Ken. Appreciate that mate. Yeah was thinking of using the Onewind or the Free Soldier Tarp as an additional and adding into the straps a biner to attach the tarp to...🤔🤔🤔
I have both the Haven XL and the Helsdon. I love the Haven but prefer the sleep in the Helsdon, plus it doesn't need a special pad and it's cheaper. It is also far easier and quicker to set up as the Haven straps are a bit short and the pad needs to be fully inflated. (I use a $10 K-Mart foampad with the Helsdon) Nonetheless, the Haven is the better ground setup and good for lounging around on. It is also very neatly packaged and fits in my Australian Army AUSPack easily.I do like the very handy pockets,. I also found Derek very easy to deal with and a genuine gent. My original hammock was a superb custom built Goshawk from Tier Gear in Tasmania and it will be a shame to move it on but once you've slept in one of these (Haven or Helsdon) you can't go back. I'm keen to see what your tweaks will be.
I've a few lay flat bridge hammocks the most comfortable is the Amok dramr by far but one thing for sure bridge hammocks are far superior to gathered end hammocks for comfort
Hey pal love the vids... just brought my haven hammock and now id like a few more things.. .but dont wanna order from haven due to being in uk and budget .. Can i add whoopie slings ? Also want a ridge line light system? Any advice?
Yeah ive watched it mate he mesaaged me and told me to look out for it. I broach it slightly in the vid .. figured if you alleviate a little pressure on the side you zip.. it goes much smoother. But ill keep working with It to come up with a solution. I like problem solving
I have the HAVEN XL too, and I mostly like it. But I have to confess 1 thing: That sleeping pad is not insulated by anything else than air. There is NOTHING inside it. Thats not what I would call insulated. What would be a non insulated pad then??? I feel cold from below when using this pad at temperatures below about 7-10 °C.
@@OscarOutdoors22 I have spent about 5 nights in the summer with no problem of course, and some testing about 5 to 7 °C where i felt cold from below. The difference may be that im using down sleeping bags, they dont insulate from below. That should be the task of this "insulated" mat. You can check at the inflation whole, i wasnt able to see or feel any kind of insulation material inside.
@ShaleAudio air is only a good insulator if it's prevented from moving with baffles, down or something similar. Hollow tubes with nothing else tend to have an R value of about 1.8, summer use only.
Great review , Interesting Hammock/ Tent idea , but not for me at that Price ! . ,More expensive than my Vango Halo pro ! 🙂 , Be Well my Friend , Best wishes to the Family .🙂❤👍
It's a good product, but it requires some tweaking. We are not completely straight at night, although much more comfortable than in a simple hammock. The head part needs to be at least 20 centimeters above the other side. To avoid squatting in the middle due to the weight of the body, I had to make some straps to keep everything straight and it worked. I have a good night's sleep, completely straight and warm. Easy to assemble, but a little heavy. Good to be transported by car and not exactly as a form of camping.
Some great pointers there my friend would love to see your work with the straps. Im intrigued. Ive got some ideas to tweak this myself. Hopefully it will better my experience too... but im really impressed with the concept so far. Haven have done a great job
seems to me like a bad concept. U need this specific air mattress to stabelise the tent and you can not use it without the airmattress. this airmatress is probably the first thing to fail.
seems like a decent tent for placing it on the ground, but im not sure how strong it will be in heavy winds with just two support sticks, one on each side, to hold it up.
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Thank you for demonstrating how it looks when shifting side to back to side to stomach. This is how I sleep, and I watched with great interest. Thanks for posting.
Glad you found it useful 🙂
I've never been camping before too many kids with allergies to go now but I admire the time and effort you put into this
Thank you
It’s like a floating bed!
Looks comfortable and cozy
The rain fly can be secured in an open position too
When the rain fly is in the closed position, it looks a little awkward to get out in the middle of the night
Looking forward to seeing your little adjustments and to see you use it overnight
Great demo and take care 🇨🇦❤️🍁
Thank you sue. Hopefully wont be long. Got so much i want to do
I’ve never hammock camped and that’s partly due to the sleeping position I’ve always presumed you’d need to assume. This looks to solve that and does appear comfortable. More a suspended tent than a hammock, I like it.
Cheers
Mark
Its awesome mate. Literally slept in it Friday night! Best nights sleep camping for a while for sure!
Hi Oscar, Alex here from Derbyshire. I’ve seen you loads on Daniel’s channel so thought I’d give yours a go. I instantly saw you have the Haven. Congrats. It’s good to see someone else English who has one. I’ve had my XL for a year now & used it many times. I’m 6ft 1 and an average dad bod build - I got the XL for the extra length and to spread out - however I think because I’m not a larger stocky bulky guy I should have got the standard - not the XL. I absolutely love the product but because I’m slimmer I have to have the pad inflated to the max or I get a V crease all the way along the middle of the pad. This causes the pad to be rock solid and makes it then uncomfy to sleep on. But if I deflate a little I then get the V crease and it scrunches my shoulders in.
I’m going to try the pad cover they do to see if it will give me a bit more cushion padding - if that fails I’ll get the standard size one. They say bigger stocky people will fit the XL properly as their weight and size will fill the pad properly. But slimmer people should get the none XL - but I’ll have to sacrifice that lovely extra width…
I love the flat lay and the space & that it’s an all in one water proof solution with just a couple of clips it’s up and running. Just a slight tip to you - be careful that your backpack doesn’t lean any weight on the spreader bars - I’ve seen people pull on them or have excess weight in them and it’s caused the poles to bend. Just make sure the backpack isn’t resting on them. Have subscribed - cheers.
Wow.. what a comment. Love the Haven literally slept like a log friday night!
Yeah im gonma grab the pad cover and ISB lights i think.
Ive git the XL as im 15 stone. But broad!
No issues so far.
Some things im going to do. As i love to tinker with stuff. So watch out for that.
Ps sorry for late reply. Got a premiere out tonight. 8pm UK
Alex, I have an EX and use the Thermarest Mondoking 3D self inflating pad in it. Fits great and has a bit better thermal rating. Since I use the Haven for car and motorcycle camping thats not a problem.
This actually looks really comfortable. It’s so cool that it’s suspended in the air. Nice find and share 👍🏾
Thank you
I definitely would be so clueless trying to set this all up. Lol
Good job!
Thank you
Asia, there are numerous video's about setting these up. After several times you'll, pardon the pun, get the hang of it lol.
Thank you for sharing all of this. Don’t know if I’ll ever go camping like this, but will definitely keep this products in mind if I do.
Well worth a squint at these... had a night or two in the garden really comfortable
I have this one the haven xl. Its the best hammock you can buy. Its sleeps just like my bed.
That's the nuts 👌🏽 not a fan of tents & never slept in a hammock but this looks like something I'd enjoy
Complete and utter game changer mate. Love it
That hammock looks amazing! Thank you for the tips on setup!
Thank you
The flat lay looks comfortable, hammock or bivi setup choice awesome! Thanks for sharing, hope you’re better. Stay safe atb 👍🦊
Certainly is a great product.. kudos to Haven for this!
Nice setup Scott, I'd like to see how it copes with some windy wet weather...Many thanks again
That... i can guarantee i will be doing..
What a cool tent and it looks like a comfortable setup!
Yeah it really is. Thank you
Excellent overview brother. Thank you.
Thank you
Looks like a cracking bit of kit Scott. Great review.
Thank you 👍👍👍👍
Hi Oscar, I have the xl Haven, at 72 it needs to be easier! Had a couple of problems with mat closing up and shifting, I'm thinking about getting heavy duty self adhesive velcro to fix the mat to the hammock base ? It does need a bit of tweaking but I'll work it out. Great vids mate .Cheers jv
Cracking video again Scott very informative 👍 👌 👏 and thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you
Not a fan of the rain fly, I like a big fly so I have a good size admin area. That being said the units own rain fly with an additional larger rain fly would be great, use a larger fly to keep the rain off and the units own fly to keep the wind off by dropping one side or the other or both depending on wind direction 👍👍👍cracking review as always
Thanks Ken. Appreciate that mate. Yeah was thinking of using the Onewind or the Free Soldier Tarp as an additional and adding into the straps a biner to attach the tarp to...🤔🤔🤔
@@OscarOutdoors22 I think doing that would make this the best set up probs ever. I love my one tigris hammock for this sort of reason
@@kenmorrison1725 the ill see if i can set this up..👍
Great set up, I enjoyed watching it especially the sleeping part, cause I move alot.
It helps for wrigglers like me. 😂
I have both the Haven XL and the Helsdon. I love the Haven but prefer the sleep in the Helsdon, plus it doesn't need a special pad and it's cheaper. It is also far easier and quicker to set up as the Haven straps are a bit short and the pad needs to be fully inflated. (I use a $10 K-Mart foampad with the Helsdon) Nonetheless, the Haven is the better ground setup and good for lounging around on. It is also very neatly packaged and fits in my Australian Army AUSPack easily.I do like the very handy pockets,. I also found Derek very easy to deal with and a genuine gent. My original hammock was a superb custom built Goshawk from Tier Gear in Tasmania and it will be a shame to move it on but once you've slept in one of these (Haven or Helsdon) you can't go back. I'm keen to see what your tweaks will be.
Just watching your video now my friend
I've a few lay flat bridge hammocks the most comfortable is the Amok dramr by far but one thing for sure bridge hammocks are far superior to gathered end hammocks for comfort
definitely looks like a cracking bit of kit
Worth the money just for the concept
Hey pal love the vids... just brought my haven hammock and now id like a few more things.. .but dont wanna order from haven due to being in uk and budget ..
Can i add whoopie slings ?
Also want a ridge line light system? Any advice?
Brilliant and informative video, Thank You!
Thanks For the appreciation my friend
Hey great job on the video. Looks like a good setup.
Thank you i appreciate that. 👍👍
my kind of hammock ,being a side sleeper myself¬!
Worth a look mate. Sorry for late reply
Omg just realizing I’ve never put up a tent before 😱
Ha ha.. you should.. and then camp. Its a great way to relax and reset
Omg I love it . I have been wanting to get a hammock but I am a side sleeper . How much does it weigh ?
Cant remember off the top of my head. Pretty heavy but worth it. Definitely comfortable
Very nice camping bro
Thank you
Looks good do you know if they still have a problem with the zipper? Watch the “novice camper “video review
Yeah ive watched it mate he mesaaged me and told me to look out for it. I broach it slightly in the vid .. figured if you alleviate a little pressure on the side you zip.. it goes much smoother. But ill keep working with It to come up with a solution. I like problem solving
Excellent video m8
Thank you Dean. It's easy with excellent gear
Thank you for sharing 👍
Thanks as always Edith x
Very good thanks
Cheers Willis
Hi Can you let me know where you got it from and how much did it cost please. thanks
Hey yeah direct from Haven EU £300 pricey but worth it.
Link on description
Thanks for getting back 👍
@labtec1958 no worries
I have the HAVEN XL too, and I mostly like it. But I have to confess 1 thing: That sleeping pad is not insulated by anything else than air. There is NOTHING inside it. Thats not what I would call insulated. What would be a non insulated pad then??? I feel cold from below when using this pad at temperatures below about 7-10 °C.
Really... ill have a look in the pad... that doesnt seem right. I was out in -3 i think and slept warm....
How long have you had it?
@@OscarOutdoors22 I have spent about 5 nights in the summer with no problem of course, and some testing about 5 to 7 °C where i felt cold from below. The difference may be that im using down sleeping bags, they dont insulate from below. That should be the task of this "insulated" mat. You can check at the inflation whole, i wasnt able to see or feel any kind of insulation material inside.
Mine has some .. if you message me on another platform I'll send you a pic mate
Air is a great insulator, maybe try overinflating
@ShaleAudio air is only a good insulator if it's prevented from moving with baffles, down or something similar. Hollow tubes with nothing else tend to have an R value of about 1.8, summer use only.
Why do you use separate carabiners for the rain fly?
Hey nick, sorry for late reply. I used it as intended according to instructions at first. But now I only use 1 carbiner for suspension and tarp.
Great review , Interesting Hammock/ Tent idea , but not for me at that Price ! . ,More expensive than my Vango Halo pro ! 🙂 , Be Well my Friend , Best wishes to the Family .🙂❤👍
Thank you Bob. Yeah its a bit pricey but the comfort and versatility make up for it immensely. Hope you're well too Bob. X
Are you a bridge hammock convert yet Scott
I could be mate
Thats amazing 👏
Cherrs Marc mate
It's a good product, but it requires some tweaking. We are not completely straight at night, although much more comfortable than in a simple hammock. The head part needs to be at least 20 centimeters above the other side. To avoid squatting in the middle due to the weight of the body, I had to make some straps to keep everything straight and it worked. I have a good night's sleep, completely straight and warm. Easy to assemble, but a little heavy. Good to be transported by car and not exactly as a form of camping.
Some great pointers there my friend would love to see your work with the straps. Im intrigued.
Ive got some ideas to tweak this myself. Hopefully it will better my experience too... but im really impressed with the concept so far. Haven have done a great job
@@OscarOutdoors22 I could take some pics, but send then where to?
Email.. facebook Instagram.. you choose my friend
I think these type of set ups will become popular, less phaff.
Certainly extremely simple and Sooo Comfy!
How does this compare to cateye ,
which is a lot cheaper
Ill buy one and let you know mate...👍👍
You nean the night cat?? Ill do a comparison vid mate
Yes that is what I meant
@@garyedwards2983 awesome question.. ilm do a comparison video maye
3:10 sound jet fight
😂😂😂
Hmmm, I don't think I will lay on this, the bed looks good but awkward.
Its super comfortable once youve tweaked to suit and got used to it.
Peanut butter on toast...
I like the Haven it will be fantastic for holidays...
Looks great doesnt it Jayce. Hope you're good buddy
Oh Scott you bugger, I WANT one of those ! Looks an awesome piece of kit. Thanks Pal, Not lol 🤔
My bad sorry brother! 😞 1😂
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seems to me like a bad concept. U need this specific air mattress to stabelise the tent and you can not use it without the airmattress. this airmatress is probably the first thing to fail.
seems like a decent tent for placing it on the ground, but im not sure how strong it will be in heavy winds with just two support sticks, one on each side, to hold it up.