Do you agree with Denis' take on consciousness? Is water an or the essential piece of who we are? Let us know what you think in the comments! To hear more Denis Noble and his revolutionary ideas on genes and biology, see iai.tv/video/biology-beyond-genes-denis-noble?TH-cam&+comment&
until you define it, describing it from our perspective can only be flawed. and anyway, if mutation is disorder then all life on earth developed from disorder.
"Artists seem to know instinctively that a perfectly symmetrical object is not so beautiful", in this statement what does prodessor Noble mean by instinct in the perspective of his order and disorder theory? Is instinct governed by the ordered part of our brain or its just well instinct? So does an artist makes a conscious choice to slip in some asymmetry in their work or its just the natural disordered, stochastic part of their brane taking over? and if its not the disordered part of our brain taking over the creative process and we create some of that disorder from the very order that we are, is that entirely possible? Like I genertae random numbers in a computer program but computers run on transistors and well transistors are logical so how can they create randomeness? and finally are the typos in this text beautiful? because I dont think I left them consciously.
I call bullshit. Brownian motion does not turn off for a processor's particles. Every single statement here is pretty much similarly false. Even when he gets the answer right he is basing his conclusion on BS.
But can’t you have a virtual water Bassin with virtual molecules within the AI? The behavior could then be prompted by connecting it to a true-random-number-generator.
Except that those 'virtual' artifacts are, really, a number of electronic bits either at 1 or 0. There isn't any actual molecule or structure, only a piece of software that can be set to treat various sequences of 1s and 0s _as if_ they were something.
Word salad meaning nothing. jumps from one scale to another without ever providing answers. just arguing others doesn't make you a new theory. noone objects the cats are conscious, in fact all living organisms are in one way or the other. he objects to disorder producing order but he suggests exactly the same thing. crackpot might be harsh but.....
He's having a conversation. Jeez, what do people want? Would you believe it if he did some maths and had all the right props? At least he's musing on important stuff, as opposed to millions of grants paying for research of minutiae or irrelevance....
@@Arkzard When you’re unconscious are you aware? Likely not, you’ve just been knocked out. You can’t receive or respond to anything around you. A single cell microorganism can still respond to its surroundings. The microorganism is awake. It is conscious. Just my thoughts tho.
Not that I disagree but I would be wary to say such things in a forum as this since it provides fuel for the fire. It’s the very metaphysical view that animates the drive of the illusionist metaphysics of neo-Darwinists.
@@matureyoungman magnetism, gravity, pressure, electricity, energy, sound waves, friction, sub atomic cell division and replication, luck, many gods, no gods, Peter Griffin with a butt scratcher.....butt scratcher!...superior aliens using earth as a petri dish, a combination of infinite factors, phenomena. Oh and all consciousness is an illusion alike to the brains perception of what we call colour. 👍👀😄
When you delete this message this time at least consider the possibility that there is a point in what is being said. Butt scratcher is a fantastic metaphor for convenience for example.... magnetism, gravity, pressure, electricity, energy, sound waves, friction, sub atomic cell division and replication, luck, many gods, no gods, Peter Griffin with a butt scratcher.....butt scratcher!...superior aliens using earth as a petri dish, a combination of infinite factors, phenomena. Oh and all consciousness is an illusion alike to the brains perception of what we call colour. 👍👀😄
Do you agree with Denis' take on consciousness? Is water an or the essential piece of who we are? Let us know what you think in the comments!
To hear more Denis Noble and his revolutionary ideas on genes and biology, see iai.tv/video/biology-beyond-genes-denis-noble?TH-cam&+comment&
Consciousness is everything, precise, eternal, and omnipresent, we direct our body and our inmune system.
Thanks Denis, remarkable interview.
It is Wonderful just to listen to the way he does his brain exercises.
Much Respect!
Just a brilliant and exciting perspective on life.💃
And reference of concensus and argument among theoreticians
At what point does simple information processing transform into subjective experience?
As soon as your brain filters what you perceived it becomes subjective experience.✌️
@@Lqvy1 and what if it doesn't filter what you perceive?
Noble, the living Legend. Peace ✌️ 😎.
No subtitles 🙁
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Thank you very much for sharing 🎉💝.
Was really enjoying it 🤗
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Consciousness has no origin, it is eternal and eternity is now
until you define it, describing it from our perspective can only be flawed. and anyway, if mutation is disorder then all life on earth developed from disorder.
Is AI not software instead of hardware?
As david bowie loved to say....theres nothing without contrast
"Artists seem to know instinctively that a perfectly symmetrical object is not so beautiful", in this statement what does prodessor Noble mean by instinct in the perspective of his order and disorder theory? Is instinct governed by the ordered part of our brain or its just well instinct? So does an artist makes a conscious choice to slip in some asymmetry in their work or its just the natural disordered, stochastic part of their brane taking over? and if its not the disordered part of our brain taking over the creative process and we create some of that disorder from the very order that we are, is that entirely possible? Like I genertae random numbers in a computer program but computers run on transistors and well transistors are logical so how can they create randomeness? and finally are the typos in this text beautiful? because I dont think I left them consciously.
I call bullshit. Brownian motion does not turn off for a processor's particles. Every single statement here is pretty much similarly false. Even when he gets the answer right he is basing his conclusion on BS.
But can’t you have a virtual water Bassin with virtual molecules within the AI? The behavior could then be prompted by connecting it to a true-random-number-generator.
Except that those 'virtual' artifacts are, really, a number of electronic bits either at 1 or 0.
There isn't any actual molecule or structure, only a piece of software that can be set to treat various sequences of 1s and 0s _as if_ they were something.
@@Tao_Tology i think the question is not what they „really“ are but how they would behave on an emergent level, be it virtual or real.
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Joe Biden?......
Word salad meaning nothing.
jumps from one scale to another without ever providing answers.
just arguing others doesn't make you a new theory.
noone objects the cats are conscious, in fact all living organisms are in one way or the other.
he objects to disorder producing order but he suggests exactly the same thing.
crackpot might be harsh but.....
He's having a conversation. Jeez, what do people want? Would you believe it if he did some maths and had all the right props? At least he's musing on important stuff, as opposed to millions of grants paying for research of minutiae or irrelevance....
Humans are conscious, bacterias are not. Mammals, birds, octopuses? Depends on the definition.
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Let's say that consciousness is a house; one could argue that even a bacteria would have at least a couple of bricks.
@@Arkzard When you’re unconscious are you aware? Likely not, you’ve just been knocked out. You can’t receive or respond to anything around you. A single cell microorganism can still respond to its surroundings. The microorganism is awake. It is conscious. Just my thoughts tho.
Reality (that which is etc.) seems to self-organize. This is proof of "god" (a divine order, creator, programmer, etc.). What else could it be?
Not that I disagree but I would be wary to say such things in a forum as this since it provides fuel for the fire. It’s the very metaphysical view that animates the drive of the illusionist metaphysics of neo-Darwinists.
"This is proof of...."
Nope.
@@matureyoungman magnetism, gravity, pressure, electricity, energy, sound waves, friction, sub atomic cell division and replication, luck, many gods, no gods, Peter Griffin with a butt scratcher.....butt scratcher!...superior aliens using earth as a petri dish, a combination of infinite factors, phenomena.
Oh and all consciousness is an illusion alike to the brains perception of what we call colour. 👍👀😄
When you delete this message this time at least consider the possibility that there is a point in what is being said. Butt scratcher is a fantastic metaphor for convenience for example....
magnetism, gravity, pressure, electricity, energy, sound waves, friction, sub atomic cell division and replication, luck, many gods, no gods, Peter Griffin with a butt scratcher.....butt scratcher!...superior aliens using earth as a petri dish, a combination of infinite factors, phenomena.
Oh and all consciousness is an illusion alike to the brains perception of what we call colour. 👍👀😄
Argument from personal incredulity. Perhaps you should get a degree in science and try to actually figure things out.