NEVER spend $$$$ on ARB again
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2023
- Today we compare the air up times of the ARB and the EZ-Flate C.A.S.E. the winner may shock you.
We both you the 4 tire air hoses to make this as fair as possible. Who do you think is the best compressor EZ Flate or ARB Twin
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It would be interesting to have results on longevity. If the ARB costs more but lasts longer, then economy of purchase swings in favour of the one that lasts.
you are correct for sure, righ tnow both are still going strong, how ever at this point the ARB is used significly less in the mojave cause all it dow now is the front locker. ill keep an eye on how the ezflat preforms over time and update as we go, but right now we im locing the EZflate
Should have used the same vehicle for both tests.
EZ-flate 50% duty cycle, ARB 100% duty cycle but they both get the job done.
personally, I like the mounting options of the ARB for a JL and one less case to pack.
I agree to this as well
But the EZflate or any of the twin can be like 2x as fast or whatever so 20-40min don't really apply unless you're airing others up too
Most winches have power leads you could connect to vs opening the battery? Perhaps run remote cables and incorporate those heavy duty warn cable connections so you don't have to open the hood. I did that for jumper cables. Just a thought.
we did make this adjustment we incorporated an anderson plug in the rear for connecting let me know if you want to see how we did it
Sure!
They also make smaller Anderson connectors rated for lower amperages, no way that compressor draws more than 30a continuous. But the 175a connector on a set of jumper cables is the bees knees. Put Anderson connectors in the rear and on both sides after putting one on some 25' long 1/0 cables
Just bought an ARB suitcase with receiver. Built like a tank.
I believe it still only runs at 6 cfm where the EZflate is almost double
I appreciate you guys making this video. It helped me make a much better purchase. I went with the smaller EZ flat compressor since mine is just for emergencies not serious off roading.
Thanks for sharing
I just bought the twin piston Moab auto air with their deflation and inflation hose kit, super excited
You will love it
Awesome video! Thanks fellas
Glad you enjoyed it!
One of my favorite mods I ever did was permanently mounting an air solution. I never have to touch hot fittings, and I never have to open my hood now.
Same here, I have an ARB twin under the hood with a one gallon air tank underneath and quick disconnects on the front and rear bull bar. The compressor also runs my front ARB air locker, it’s a slick setup that has worked well. Cheers
i have the ARB under the hood as well but it runs my air lockers. With the usage and how often we go out, I'm afraid I'll burn out the ARB quick and could end a trip quickly without the lockers, and to replace would be double the cost of the EZflate case.
Pro for the ez-flate is you can sit in the vehicle with the AC or heat on (if the vehicle is running) to air up. Probably not sitting inside the vehicle if the compressor is running inside.
Or heat in the winter lol
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Interesting setup the Case one. Tip incase wasnt already mentioned but Always have car running when using Winches and air compressors (high draw equipment/devices unless you have some epic batteries that will maintain full voltage etc for the duration of use.) Keep videos coming Cheers 🍻
This is a very good tip thanks for aharing
Interesting video ! Thanks guys 👍🏼
What’s the brand of reference of the hose that you use and the 4 in 1 connector?
the ones in the video used are from Thor Lightning, but since then I'm now running the set from EZflate.
Nice thanks for the info! ✌🏼
Do you use the Recoil or Hyperflex hose from EZ FLAT?
You like it better than the TOHR?
So I found this interesting I'm just starting to think about getting my truck set up for off-road and I have to say I prefer the idea of one board air however that could be a good option for a backup or even if it is your primary but my question is are your tires the same size like if they're not the exact same tire on the exact same rim there might be a volume difference there so I'm kind of curious whichever truck you wanted to do it on I'm kind of curious to see you do it again but run the test with both compressors on one vehicle whether it's the gladiator or the other one I don't care but just hooking up the compressors using the same lines and all on the same tires I'm curious if there would be any difference there she has some some wheels are different some tires are different you know there's always going to be some differences in the manufacturing process but I don't know for sure if they're even the same tires on your two vehicles very interesting though I like the idea of it being completely waterproof and dustproof actually kind of tempted to get one just to have in my truck for if I need it and I don't mean for off-roading I mean just in general like I'd rather pay the money for a good compressor like that to have for actually just keeping out in the barn or in the truck for a tire goes lower or something I still that's a variable to me is the you're to you're doing the test on two different sets of tires so there could be some differences there in volume which could affect the amount of time it takes to get the pressure up
So i understand and see what your saying that there would be differences in the manufacturing but, it's almost the same, in my opinion, we are both running the same tires in the same size, the rims are same size as well, just different styles. Same vehicle running almost identical setup, and just slight differences in brand mods. I believe the time difference that it took to inflate the tires wouldn't change much.
I prefer my Power Tank to any on board or portable air compressor. Its much faster. With C02 you can also run air tools if needed as well.
PT is of course the quickest of all, but there's always the chance of running out and you have to spend $$ to fill it back up.
till you run out, and ive seen it happen more then once lol.
Middle of no where??? And a two wheel drive goes by 😅😂
=)
The EZ flate can also be taken to another vehicle and used. It’s not tied to the one vehicle.
correct, it's very portable
the arb has been a available in a box to carry around for over 15 years, you can mount if you want to or not, You also have a 100% duty cycle vs a 50% duty cycle, the ARB could be carried to 10 vehicles one after another and it wouldn't thermal throttle however the ez flate wont, you'll be waiting for it to cool down every two cars. Ive had the same twin compressor from arb for over 15 years, had one rebuild which cost 15 dollars and its been in 3 different vehicles, lets see how the ezflate is going in 15 years. Add a 10lt tank {which comes in the carry box ver} and you have 150 psi non stop. Ive never been in a situation where I need to be 1-3 min faster then everyone else in my group, Im usually chatting to them for 10m while were airing up anyway. Also for camping purposes where your spending a week or more out bush a 90 amp draw is allot to ask from a 100 amp battery your running a fridge from etc. Arb is 68amps at maximum load 12volts or 34amps at 24volts. I dont even need to start the car to run the ARB my lithium battery can run it for 3 hours and still have juice to run the fridge all night.
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How hot does the EZ Flate compressor get? I have currently a Viar compressor and it gets very hot. It enough I can’t pack it away immediately. It needs 30 minutes to cool off or it will melt the bag
it does get hot but being in the case and not a bag i can pack it away pretty quickly
They are so fast the temp barely rises. The Viar's are so small and slow they run forever getting really hot
Love my EZ-Flate MOAB!!!
So far im liking it as well, I have both the ARB and the C.A.S.E. really like the CASE
comparison, what about a power tank or some of the other compressors?
Power tank is obviously the fastest, however, the cost of life time ownership of the tank would be more than any compressor. Also you have the chance to run out of CO2 while out if you dont fill up. etc. I also have CO2 for when and if I need it.
Very Informative video. What size were the tires?
both vehicles are running 38's
I’m new to the game of off roading and equipment..
How hot is the arb compared to the ez flate?
If cost isn’t a concern and going after longevity/better duty cycles vs which will fill tires faster by a couple mins to me isn’t a concern more so which has the best warranty/customer service aswell plays a huge roll..
You mentioned the EZ flate got hot, would that not affect the longevity of the compressor motor?
Thanks for the time comparing two different compressors.
Heat does play a role however, the ARB also gets hot. You just don’t have to handle the ARB if you mount it in your vehicle. Also, I’ll be doing a new video soon as there is a updated version of this compressor from morrflate that has better heat dissipation.
Can’t you remove the ez Flate from the case and mount it anywhere you want?
so they have a version without the case.
I bought an Oasis years ago and it is amazing, even to home compressors, but the price tag is crazy now, unless you can make your own.
awesome
The problem I see with the case is that it is easy to steal. What about the "dual hose". is that coming with the compressor?
they sell the hoses separate. You can get the single tire or all 4 tire air up system.
What is the maximum air pressure of the EZ Flate compressor?
looks like from EZflate system will work up to 150PSI working pressure
Is this EZ Flate system the same as the MOAB EZ Flate?
yes they are the same.
but the ez-flate never got all four tires to 37psi and arb did. Also, the arb turned on and off at least twice before you started airing up. This may indicate a leak. At the end many people are willing to pay extra for reliability, which is not mentioned in this video. If I were to choose which compressor to take on my family trip, then I would never consider other brand than arb or smittybilt. BTW, can ez-flate be re-built?
Duty cycle....duty cycle...duty cycle. My arb dual doesn't need to rest.
neither does the EZflate system.
@@crawllander Their M.O.A.B.dual has 50% duty cycle 30 min max run time. Arb dual is 100% duty cycle. Google it.
Have you compared the morrflate 10.6?
we have not, but they basically are the same, made in the same factory.
From what pressure did you start to what pressure did you end?
believe we started both vehicles at 15psi and went up to 36psi
I run twin packbrake HP625’s with a 10 gallon tank at 150 mounted under the bed and it fills all 4 37/14.5R16.5’s on humvee double beadlock wheels no problem
Not saying there's a problem with the ARB's. Just comparing the speed and price of the two.
My power wagon has two viar compressors @ 200 psi and two 2.5 tanks all 4 tires at 4 minutes 45 seconds
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I wish I knew about it before I bought the ARB Twin :)
The twin is not a bad choice, as i mentioned in the video i have one of them as well but the ezflate is much faster
The case is a good idea, more flexibility. You can use it for different tasks
And the increased CFM makes it a bit faster
and move it from vehicle to vehicle
Absolutely love my compressor
Mine too!
set up time doesn't count because you can wire the EZ-Flate directly to a power source and mount it to a permanent location.
we were just trying to do a comparison and be equal.
I kinds lean to ARB due to the company name , warranty (if any ) rebuild ability permanent install things like that but I see the ez allure .....
so we've had the ARB for over 2 years now under the hood, which isn't shown. Both works well, just afraid of burning out the ARB and having to pay double for what the EZflate system is.
You cant compare a top quality air compressor like the arb that is built in Australia to some chinese made rubbish just because its faster than arb....arb is quality built,water and dust proof and you can run you air lockers aswell...you can also hard mount it under the bonnet or car permanently so no need to carry it around...not to mention you can get a air tank if you wish with arb...this comparison is nonsense.
Thank for your opinion, and you make some valid points.however not everyone wants to spend 600-1k on a compressor that can barely put out 1/2 the cfm. I have also seen more then one ARB break down and not be rebuildable so the person had to buy a new one so now into it 1500-2k, and that’s find if your made of money, then not to mention as you pointed out the ARB can be hard mounted under the bonnet, but now you have another several hundred dollars for the mount, and possibly several hundred dollars worth of labor to install it. you also mentioned you can add a tank to the ARB. This is also correct but again several hundred dollars for the tank and then several hundred dollars to install. It is absolutely quality product. However the Ezflate case and auto air systems are faster and a better value.
Space is another consideration.
ARB has a twin in a case with a reservoir air tank. Bet beat the CASE
I’ll try to find someone with this set up and do another comparison
Reliability is the priority.
So far no problems with having either. For us, we have the ARB run the front lockers and now the EZflate just for the tires.
You back beat the 🤬out of the ARB and it will still run for years. Can the CASE do that?
Not sure to be honest i’ll make an update video in a year and we’ll see where we stand at that time
Your tires don't have equal weight on them so they'll fill at different rates. This probably has a bigger effect than line length which will also effect resistance
your right it could have an impact but the ezflate vehicle would be heaver and it was faster
10cfm is nothing to sneeze at!
almost double of the ARB
My criteria, in order: (1) Not made in China. (2) Proven reliability. (3) Performance. (4) Cost.
Not sure where both are made but, they are both reliable and work well, it just EZflate is half the cost of the ARB
Onboard for me is worth it
and that’s okay as well, like i mentioned in the. video, I have an onboard ARB
Ez flate for the win because it's half the cost? But you ALSO have an ARB on board for lockers. Seems to me that using the ARB for both would be cheaper.
In this instance your correct since i already have the twin arb for my lockers it would be cheaper to not have the case.
I happen to have a fear of burning up my arb at the wrong time and not having my front locker work lol
as an alternative and more cost effective the case is perfect if you have not already went another route
@crawllander How would you tie in the EZ flate for your air lockers?
I am looking for an air compressor for my Bronco and so far I keep coming back to the tried and true ARB because I don't want it mounted in the cab for heat and noise issues. Many times my wife will stay in the vehicle while I'm airing up or down. I don't want to do a case because of the heat and needing it to cook down before stowing it away. So it would need to hard mount under the hood or somewhere outside.
@@Crumb_Trails Let me think about this but in this situation ARB may be your best choice i’ll talk to the e@ezflate team today as well and see if they have run into this yet
@@Crumb_Trails there is a mount for the ARB that mounts behind the spare tire of the Broncos. Pretty clean set up. Made by AGS Off-road
EZ flat was faster due to it's connected straight to the battery for power. The ARB is powdered via aux so there is degradation in power.
the EZ flate was faster cause it puts out 10.6 cfm compared to the arb 6.x
In the long run, have both of them been tested for years of use and just keep right on ticking..? Otherwise both do the job, one is half the price. A few minutes either way is livable...im one of those guys who keeps a vehicle for many many years so mounting it wouldn't really bother me.
the ARB compress I've had for over 2 years, the EZflate is new for the past couple months. No problems with either, just the EZflate is faster and half the price, makes it nice to be quicker in the cold weather.
I’ve been running 2 pepboy’s air compressors for years
pep boys still around?
@@crawllander
A few stores
Definitely looks like Colorado
it’s actually Utah
the EZ flate sounds like a winner if you have more than 1 rig. Half the price and you can use it in every car you have.
yea, it's very portable!
I am sold! Thanks for this comparison.
No problem!
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Nonsense! Twin ARB all day. Zero comparison
The case is the new way to go and the heat is hard on us fat guys !!!
your not wrong lol
My Arb will fill my 37 inch tires from 15psi to 35psi in 7:35. If you want to time mine I'll meet you where ever you want.
We can if you like, but the comparison would not be the same, I run larger tires and a higer pressure. Apples to Oranges would not compare correctly.
At what elevation do you fill them in 7:35? Elevation makes a difference.
MORRFlate is better inflates to a set pressure digit n turns off
EZ flate also has this I just did not have it at the time however, I’ll be doing a new video as I currently run more plates new 10.6 with better heat dissipation
Arb is very old compressor its strong when its out till 2018 after that arb should had made something stronger but they did not do i dont know why . Alot of rechargable inflators are stronger then arb like milwake m18
yeah it’s like they stopped innovating
50% duty cycle vs 100%
But in 10 min neither one is an issue
@mrmotofy if it's mounted under the hood it could be.
correct
It could for sure be witch is where my ARB is mounted
But the ARB is also runs your lockers
that is correct, in the Mojave we have a front AB locker, im super worried ab out burning out the ARB then being without a locker in the front, would it be the end of the world probably not but I dont feel the need to put all the extra usage on the ARB
I think that both are great systems, but the best part of the case is that you can take it and use it on your other vehicles.
right it's very portable and can be used in different vehicles
I’m not carrying another case.
understandable, but they do have a system without the case.
.......you could just mount the EZ flate.
they have a version you can mount if you wanted.
It’s not all about speed. Where is this compressor made? 5 years from now will spare parts be available? What is customer service like. As someone who owns 3 arb compressors I can tell you that these are not issues with ARB. I have had years of flawless performance from my compressors. The ARB twin is a constant duty compressor and I have never had heating issues
Many HAVE had problems with ARB. I believe the ARB say in some cases made in the US from Global components. Not much difference. There's other cheaper options though UDA EGOI Dual 6.1 CFM ARB clone $450 4YR Warranty
ARB Twin Clone CKMTA12 $310 Amazon
I didn’t say ARB is the end all be all compressor. I have never heard of any being made anywhere but Australia, albeit from globally sourced materials. I own three and none have had the slightest issue with very hard use. The pistons use carbon fiber rings and they are apparently very durable. I didn’t picture carbon fiber being good in that case use but I am no engineer. I know there are other good compressors but if you are going to spend a decent amount of coin then I would find the answers to questions from my original comment. Rebuild kits are readily available for the whole line of ARB compressors and the company has been around for a long time. I own several of there products. I have a a bull bar, front air locker, and several of the smaller items they make and they have all done well
I beat all those cheap china compressors every time with my arb twin. I’m able to mount mine for onboard air so while they’re puli g theirs out and setting up and detangling that mess of a hose I’m 3/4s done haha
My wife has the twin ARB in her gladiator and when we compare i usually finish when she is on her last tire, the increased CFM on the EZ flate makes up the difference
York 210 > all
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Listen to how quiet that arb is, though. That ez flate Chinese crap will probably bite it in a year. In the group I run with, we've blown up a morrflate two ssw versions and two smitty builts keep melting hoses off. One went arb and I went viair and we now air up like 8 people every time now
No one is questioning longevity we are only comparing speed at this point, Also the ARB is mounted in the van under a seat of course it’s going to be quieter on film when we are outside standing by the ez flate.
The design is NOT new and has been around for a few years with many having nearly identical units for 7, 8,10+ yrs
Power tank for the win. 😂 I'm always done way before my buddies with compressor. Hard to beat 300 psi instant fills.
We have a PT and, although it is super fast and easy to use, it ain't perfect by a long stretch.
1 - it costs $$$ to fill and, unless you are willing to let a place send it off somewhere to be filled, you can't just take it to any place you want to have it filled, same day/on-site. If you want same day fill, there is a $15 - $20 surcharge.
2 - Whenever you have it re-filled, they PURGE it first so, if you have only used half the tank and want to go on a trip with a full tank, you are throwing away a half tank's worth of CO2. In addition to that, they won't fill it 100% because they don't want to risk setting off the safety valve should the tank contents expand due to sitting in a hot vehicle. They only fill it to 9lbs but charge for 10lbs.
3 - The obvious... you still have to carry around a compressor in case you don't have enough CO2 to fill up all the tires.
Don't get me wrong, love our PT but, we also live in the real world.
right, we have a PT as well, but to keep cost down we try not to use it unless really needed.
@@flutini1 I'm not sure where your out and agree that nothing is perfect, I have found ways to work around some of your complaints. Where i get mine filled there is no surcharge for filling on the spot. I also have multiple tanks 15 lb. They always fill mine full and I've weighed to verify. With multiple tanks I can work around most issues. You are correct as I do keep a compressor as back up but haven't had to use it. Thanks for pointing out to those unaware of the concerning potentials.
37 psi is also way way too much air
Running the milestars that have a crown we found better to run at a higher psi for longevity
@crawllander same with my STT Pro's. Chalk test good at 25psi but tires don't like it. 35psi and tires are happy.