Thanks for the video and nice setup! Im considering the lessor compressor, since I have had plenty of problems with my authentic ARB. ARB air chuck leaks since day 1 and ARB supplied relay failed after 12 months of occasional use for lockers only.
ARB is a great company and stand behind their products. I had a problem with my rear arb leaf spring 2 years after installing them. They replaced both springs,free of charge,no questions asked. Great company
It’s not worth it the slightly cheaper pump is a false economy as the arb will last for years and with excellent support and service if required! go try to get a warranty in 6 months with the chinesium one lol
Love my ARB twin, I have a power wagon so tires run at 65psi normal and I air down to about 25, much more comfortable knowing I have support for the real one, been a couple years with no issues, plus I went through Northridge and they got it to me in time for a trip when everyone else said it would be months because they were on back order. Great video!
In most cases, you really get what you pay for. So far ARB has given me no issues. I totally agree that having support and warranty gives you a peace of mind.
@@MohawkDaveOffRoad yes Sir, took me a few years to figure it out lol. When I retired from the Army I bought this truck because it came new from the factory with front and rear lockers, disconnecting sway bar, 12,000 Warn and so on plus I can haul the kids dirt bikes and go kart in the bed. Everything I have added to it since has been top of the line which explains why I have had 0 problems in the 4 years I’ve owned it, helps that the only people i off road with are Jeep groups that invite me along so there is a lot of trial and error experience around. Love the channel Sir and thank you for putting your $$ on the line to test this stuff.
ARB is made in China. Same factory as this one. ARB boxes always say "designed in Australia with foreign parts", meaning made in China. This clone, like you said is an ARB with a few corners cut for savings...
I don't think so. You can tell by the quality those parts were not made with the same machines. They took legit product apart and copied one element after another. It is not hard to make a mold for casting parts these days.
No way in hell would I pay more than $150 for a knockoff. $450 is insane for a fake. I have a little ARB for my air locker that I have had for over 15 years and has been used on 3 different vehicle, it’s been submerged, pressure washed, and it still works perfect.
Great video. I hate these cheap Chinese knockoffs. Guarantee that they buy an ARB compressor then copy the design, cutting every corner they can to save cost. The ARB is more expensive because of the R&D and warranty costs as well as higher quality materials used. I wish people would stop supporting this crap to save a few bucks. There are certain products that are made in the same factory as their more expensive (brand-name) counterparts, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. I'll gladly pay extra for a product made in USA (or Australia) that was properly designed and tested and has a warranty.
ARB is a good company. I bought a second hand jeep overseas and it came with the ARB awning. After a few thousand miles in, the fell off my roof rack. It wasn't the mount, it was the rivets in the awning backing. ARB warrantied it and sent me a new one. 👍
FYI - my Chinese knockoff has been running strong for over a year now. Also - it arrived much better packaged than the one in this video. So no complaints so far. When the day comes that it finally does crap out….I’d buy another. Side note: I have ARB genuine locker in front of my rig, Chinese knockoff in the rear. Both are holding up. One problem I did have with the Chinese knockoff is that the air solenoid leaked air when the locker was engaged. Not enough to keep the locker from engaging - but it bugged me because it caused the compressor to kick on faster. The company would not warranty it so I had to go out and buy an ARB solenoid (about $90). Not happy about that. But the locker itself is doing just fine. So….would I buy another Chinese locker? Tough call. Pissed about their lack of warranty support but at less than half the price of an ARB…that’s hard to stay pissed. Hate to admit it but…yeah…I probably would! My rule of thumb on buying China is: never buy anything you don’t plan on using immediately. Quality control sucks in China. So if it’s a lemon and you catch that fast - you can get it replaced under warranty. But if you get a good one - chances are it will work well for you and you’d have saved a ton of $$$
Quality control in "KNOCK OFF STUFF" in China is next to NONE. You generalized it so much and make it sound like everything made in China is garbage. Let me remind you your iPhone and 70 to 80 percent of products in your household is made in China. Reputable foreign company products "under strict quality control" are made in China before it even leaves the factory. If it wasn't made in China you wouldn't be able to afford the cost. Many components of high end products are out sourced from China but yet they claimed made in there country when in actual FACT it's only assembled in there country.
Nah, you really DO need to strip them down and compare the internals - not just to see what's bad about the knock-off but also to see what's special about the ARB. Honestly, as long as it's half-decent, I wouldn't care whether it was "original" or not. Problems only start when scumbags buy the knock-offs from China, ship 'em across and then slam ARB stickers on them before re-selling them.
@@RedDevilTuningIncorrect. Some ARB products are still made in Australia. Mostly the newer stuff like bull bars for newer vehicles etc. Once proven, manufacturing moves offshore to make room for new product development.
@@RedDevilTuningjust because it’s made in China doesn’t mean it’s garbage Your phone is made in China Your clothes are made in China Your kids toys are made in China Your power tools are made in China Your batteries are made in China Your furniture is made in China Etc.
I've had the knock-off one and it performed very well, I now have the ARB and looking forward to installing it. My thought is the Chinese one you purchased was a returned/used, so you really never know what you're getting in a knock-off.
I don’t know about the compressors but the snorkels are absolutely identical. Specifically the TJ and WJ models. The accordion tube slightly different but the box plates, and snorkel are identical. On my TJ the real safari Snorkel I replaced my fake one with, went exactly into the same holes
I recently got the ARB "Ford Performance" single compressor that comes mounted in the the little tool box lookin thing and it's pretty awesome. It fits perfectly behind my passenger seat in my RCSB F150. The tool box it comes in is really nice quality, the switches and wiring looks good and those air connections are super bitchin. People "oooh" and "ahhhh" when I whip it out, it's pretty extra lol
the condition the knock off compressor was in, is probably a send back from someone the scratches and complete opening in bag is very likely from it being opened by someone and not from shipping
Thanks for posting. I recently bought one for my mobile service truck and wasn't sure if it was a REAL ARB or not. but I have always felt the performance was a bit lacking especially at the higher pressures.. Pretty sure I got a knock off. I will watch for that closer when the time comes to replace it.
Should have given a little more detail on how it has worked. I bought mine 6/14/21 and have been running it commercially ever since. it seems really slow and struggles at the higher pressures. it kicks off at 85PSI (not sure where the ARB does) but it would be nice to get a little more out of it. I do have it coupled with a 5-gallon tank but it seems slower than I would expect for a twin compressor.
For high pressure continuous duty output look at the PUMA 12v compressors... They are more suited to high pressure vs. typical 70psi and under optimized 12v compressors... They put out 1.5-2 cfm at 90psi depending on model for less than $300 (if you just buy the compressor head) they also have 1.5 and 3 gallon assembled units...
@@berryreading4809 I will keep that in mind. My only concern is the space it takes. I do like the form of these ARB compressors because I can tuck them in a corner and let them do their thing. Space is limited in my setup.
My guess is that higher temperature we're seeing on the knock-off is due to that 24V fan that was only running at 12V. Swap it out for a 12V higher-rated fan & it should be good. I got unlucky with a generic Chinese compressor for my OBA. It only worked for a day before the reed valve snapped off due to being made from cheap metal. Swapped it out for a Viair unit & been running with it for over 2 years daily, no issues whatsoever. I did fabricate a mount for a 12V monster of a fan & that has helped to keep the compressor at a reasonable operating temp. Saying that, I am, however, impressed with Chinese build quality IF YOU PONY UP for better materials. I commissioned a build for a 60V lithium-ion pressure washer that can go up to 1200 PSI, 1.8 GPM, detachable 15AH battery pack, and adjustable output pressure dial. The Chinese manufacturer gave me a few options ranging from ultra-cheap to decently pricey, with regards to the pump head, the controller electronics as well as the brand of 18650 cells to use in the battery pack. I specified certain options and the grand total came up to be about 550USD before shipping and taxes. Sure it wasn't cheap as we might have expected, but for something that doesn't really exist on the current market, it was reasonable. I mean, battery powered pressure washers exist aplenty, but not one that can go over 1000 PSI (Sunjoe has one that only goes up to 800 PSI), flow rate of over 1.8 GPM, and can run for an hour continuously at max pressure. And I have been using this washer for over a year now, at least twice every week. No problems at all. The unit still works and feels as it did when I got it. Nothing rattles or cracked. So it's not all bad news when you get something that's made in China. Sure it's a gamble, but if you wanted to save a few bucks that's something you have to deal with. Else, buy original from reputable sources.
My last ARB Twin was defective from the factory, only one motor worked. I fixed it, sold it, and replaced it with a Maxi Trac for way less $ and it's way faster.
Same identical thing for me except that I returned mine and received a new replacement that did the Same Thing! I had already owned a MaxiTrac that I got from some rewards points with NAPA and after using it a few times I bought two more when they were on sale for $99 last November. I’m keeping one as a spare and have slightly modified both that I use currently. These things kick ass!
@@MS-kh2je Last I checked the biggest Viair had about half the flow rating of the MaxiTrac and it was way more expensive. I don't care if the crank is made of pot metal as long as it doesn't break and I haven't heard of that happening. The ARB is made with much higher quality parts, and I've had two that were junk.
@@noobsoff-road They are very good about warrantee. This one was on a Jeep I'd bought and the previous owner didn't have the receipt, but they did offer to send me a motor based on my word of it being in warrantee. Since I'd have to tear into it to replace the motor I decided to do it before getting the motor and discovered that they hadn't released one of the brushes when it was assembled. I told them it was fixed and no longer needed the motor. I'd previously bought a truck with a dead Twin Air and no receipt, they sent me a replacement unit based on the serial number, great customer support. My Jeep is a high end build (well over $100k in mods) and it slightly bothered me to put a cheapo compressor on it, but the performance convinced me.
Nice review, however I think I herd the knock off one leaking air as soon as you started it up, then at the end as soon as you touched it the hose poped off, so that could very easily be your extra 1 min there. I would of ran the hard braided line rather than the plastic push fittings. The plain brown boxes the ARB ones come in when the warehouse gets them actually say "made in China". What I say that's happened is Australia designed it, made the first one but sent it to China to build it cheaper, then that company doesn't have to abide by the patent cause the patent isn't world wide, might only be in Australia and the US, so China can legally sell them to who ever they want. Maybe they may change tiny things to make it a bit cheaper for them. They have the same instruction manual. The ARB one you can get here in Australia for about $650 AUD, ARB sell them for about $700 AUD. The Chinese ones are about $400 US and shipping is about $250US so with the conversion rate that's about $935 aud so the Chinese one is actually more expensive. Say even without shipping it's $575 AUD so the product itself is only $75aud cheaper than ARB so for that little difference I would expect to get a very close (If not, the same) product. Also ARB have recently changed their design of the boxes to the new "AIR" logo, but before that even the boxes were the same. But time will tell
The catch 22 for businesses that design their own product but then farm out the actual manufacturing to China to save money is that the Chinese plants will copy the product using cheap materials or actually just run extra down the line without the branded name and sell it through Ebay , Amazon etc at lower price points . I have received exactly the same item as brand name products and have also been duped by something that just outwardly appears to be the same . This appears to be the latter , a copied design but made with inferior parts and assembly . Personally I would just buy the ARB single compressor for the same money and be assured it would not leave me flat on a trail somewhere .
I bought the single ARB, its good. overpriced for a air compressor, IMO, considering all the other options on the market, not sure if I'd buy ARB again, just from a price standpoint.
My Mercedes has a built in air compressor for the deflated spare, just checking out the hype😊 the construction differences and higher operating temperature tells me that the motors aren't the same quality, along with the warranty I would buy the ARB because I can afford it😂
I had a knock off.. it broke and the company sent me a brand new one at no cost. So mehh.... if they keep breaking I'll just go ARB but so far the experience has been good.
Are Arb Compressors Made in China? Yes, ARB compressors are made in China. The company has a manufacturing facility there that produces a variety of air compressor models for different applications. While some people may have concerns about products made in China, ARB stands behind the quality of its compressors and offers a three-year warranty on all of its products.
How much is the china one and where did you buy it? I work with china on developing products and I can tell you that most factories don't care who they sell to. If I were to guess based on my experience, the Chinese factory either supplies ARB with some parts or ARB reached out to them for a sample of parts and the factory started making the item. Also, the link in the description of the vid that bring your to your amazon store is broken.
IN AUSTRALIA THE ARB TWIN AIR COMPRESSOR SELL ABOUT $1,099 AUSTRALIA DOLLARS HARD FIND AIRCOMPRESSOR PUMP UP 120PSI FOR MY TRUCK TYRES AS RUN AT 90PSI FOR HIGHWAY
Literally cheap amazon ones. They work great and its easy to replace. I keep one spare in my gear just incase, but have not had the need to replace one. here is the link amzn.to/3wEfvXg
Ive got ARB everything except my compressor which is a Chinese one, which has served me well for close to 5 years and performed faultlessly. I would love to fault it but just can't, maybe I got lucky
I’ve had two ARB twin compressors. One wouldn’t work out the box, the other lasted almost a year. I’ll still probably keep buying ARB but reality is, they ain’t that well built and they’re riding on a brand name.
People have to understand that the Chinese build down to a price, not up to a standard. In all likelihood the original and the knock off are made in adjoining factories in China.
I was really hoping you were going to do a tear down. To say “they’re completely different inside” better be what any rep would say! It would great if you could pull one of the motor assembles (very easy to do without disassembling anything else) to compare. The original motor assembly is available for $175. I seriously doubt that there is much difference between the two. It would be too expensive otherwise. Likely, these 'knock offs' are factory seconds. Take them apart and clean them up and you probably will get a bargain! :)
I played your comment many times, so what you are saying is do not buy a cheap knock-off unless it's a ARB, or their product is just as good and cheaper if you buy from a shady website, copy of the ARB Compressor.
Here is the video on that. Jeep JL Wrangler and JT Gladiator ARB Twin Air Compressor - Air Down With A Button- DIY On Board Air th-cam.com/video/A-81o89vJS4/w-d-xo.html
The output air line should never be made of plastic because the compressed air comes out hot and will weaken and soften the plastic. One up on the ARB for the braided steel line. Great comparo video.
You didn't run the same diameter outlet hose. The arb had a larger diameter stainless hose for the initial output hose and you didn't swap that to the knockoff. The knockoff hose is smaller diameter which reduces airflow.
Not the best review. If you tested the electricals, you will find that the ARB outperforms most compressors for heat at higher PSI and doesn't work as hard to do it. Also, you can get spare parts for ARB compressors. Best of luck getting those from your Chinese counterparts. AND you get three year warranty. You get what you pay for.
If the ARB compressor is made/assembled in Australia, they will let you know everywhere including the box and will probably stamp it on the salesman's forehead. Bought the Chinese one on Alibaba, it is not a knock off. The reason everything is similar is because ARB is made in the same factory but with superior parts (bearings, anodized piston, better finish/anodizing but exact same motor). So basically if you'll pay them the same or more as ARB, they will make you an exact ARB clone or even better. Is it worth it? Chinese one was 150 USD/180 for the kit but no market for it. At 450USD retail with no warranty there is absolutely no sense in buying it whatsoever when an ARB is 650 with warranty.
ARB is overpriced and overhyped imo, but I got it because the copy was like 70 usd cheaper with less warranty. That plus, I can get parts anywhere around the globe. Holding them side by side arb felt better quality and finish. If the copy was quarter or half the price then I would’ve bought it.
Based on what you showed it seemed apparent that the knockoff was a good deal for the money, that they in no way ever said it was an ARB, so if you bought one you knew that you were taking a chance on just what it is, a knockoff. Definitely performed well in your test, viable option for someone on a budget. Curious note on the ARB site as far as manufacture, they only state the compressors are assembled and tested in Australia, typically a dead giveaway that the parts are from China.
ARB doesn't manufacture compressors in Australia they out source to China then quality control them and make sure thier within spec in Australia. I think they are made by HF in China of ARB
I think sadly it may be that arb designed it but has china build it just like everything anymore I thank that’s probably why arb didn’t want to be recorded on you tube they know that it would be a legal thing it’s exactly why I’m not a brand man why pay over half more for something that runs down the same assembly plant
Calling ARB for answers was not the best thing to do. As for the other comment, yes they get there made in china also. 10% gets u out of a patent and 1 min is not that long for filling up 4 tires
I sold my ARB twin and replaced it with a $100 Chinese compressor that outperforms it, the Maxi Trac. It felt wrong putting a cheap Chinese accessory in a very high dollar Jeep, but after airing up four 40" tires in 5 minutes I mostly got over it. If the ARB hadn't had a factory defect (one dead motor) it would have probably been fast enough to keep me from searching for an alternative.
@@aaronj08ar No, and I almost ignored your stupid question, but some reasonable people might be curious. I typically air down to 8-10PSI for off-road and back to 27-28 PSI for the road. If I go down to 8 and up to 28 it can take as long as 7 minutes instead of only 5.
After I watch this video a long time ago I orderd the knock off, its been fitted for over a year and used as required, no problems at all. The ARB is well over price.. sorry ARB
Thx! Appreciate your effort checking out the knockoff. You’ve saved us all a lot of money!
Thank you for taking the time to put this together and for spending the money on the cheap knock off.
Thanks for the video and nice setup! Im considering the lessor compressor, since I have had plenty of problems with my authentic ARB. ARB air chuck leaks since day 1 and ARB supplied relay failed after 12 months of occasional use for lockers only.
I have the cheaper one and it came packaged just like arb and has ran flawlessly .
My concerns would be warranty, parts and life of the product.
How long have you had it? Thinking of getting one too
@@truthdefenders- I wouldn't be surprised, if ARB spare parts fit in the knock off.
@@chopperpl this is the case with the NAPA awning rip they have that copies the arb unit
ARB is a great company and stand behind their products. I had a problem with my rear arb leaf spring 2 years after installing them. They replaced both springs,free of charge,no questions asked. Great company
WE appreciate you doing for us Man!!
Its not beat up from the shipping, they sent you a unit that had been returned.
Yep. Lost faith in this review if the reviewer cannot figure such out.
Great video. I have the ARB dual compressor, it’s a great compressor. As a matter of fact, one of the comments you use near the end is mine.
Helpful video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.
The Arb is over priced at $600,the knockoff is about $330,after seeing your video I think I'm gonna try the knock off
And just deal with internal rust, and replace is with an arb in a year
just spray a bit of oil in there shell be fine dude ! America has to stop being so fkn greedy n make less expensive shit !
@@raymondj8768 arb is Australian
It’s not worth it the slightly cheaper pump is a false economy as the arb will last for years and with excellent support and service if required! go try to get a warranty in 6 months with the chinesium one lol
Comes from same factory
Great comparison! I had looked at the copy cat but I’m a name brand shopper usually
Thanks for making this video! Love my ARB
Love my ARB twin, I have a power wagon so tires run at 65psi normal and I air down to about 25, much more comfortable knowing I have support for the real one, been a couple years with no issues, plus I went through Northridge and they got it to me in time for a trip when everyone else said it would be months because they were on back order. Great video!
In most cases, you really get what you pay for. So far ARB has given me no issues. I totally agree that having support and warranty gives you a peace of mind.
@@MohawkDaveOffRoad yes Sir, took me a few years to figure it out lol. When I retired from the Army I bought this truck because it came new from the factory with front and rear lockers, disconnecting sway bar, 12,000 Warn and so on plus I can haul the kids dirt bikes and go kart in the bed. Everything I have added to it since has been top of the line which explains why I have had 0 problems in the 4 years I’ve owned it, helps that the only people i off road with are Jeep groups that invite me along so there is a lot of trial and error experience around. Love the channel Sir and thank you for putting your $$ on the line to test this stuff.
ARB is made in China. Same factory as this one. ARB boxes always say "designed in Australia with foreign parts", meaning made in China. This clone, like you said is an ARB with a few corners cut for savings...
I don't think so. You can tell by the quality those parts were not made with the same machines. They took legit product apart and copied one element after another. It is not hard to make a mold for casting parts these days.
Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.
Thank you for watching.
No way in hell would I pay more than $150 for a knockoff. $450 is insane for a fake.
I have a little ARB for my air locker that I have had for over 15 years and has been used on 3 different vehicle, it’s been submerged, pressure washed, and it still works perfect.
I think you will find in this example the cost is relative as they are all but the same item from the same manufacture.
Great video. I hate these cheap Chinese knockoffs. Guarantee that they buy an ARB compressor then copy the design, cutting every corner they can to save cost. The ARB is more expensive because of the R&D and warranty costs as well as higher quality materials used. I wish people would stop supporting this crap to save a few bucks. There are certain products that are made in the same factory as their more expensive (brand-name) counterparts, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. I'll gladly pay extra for a product made in USA (or Australia) that was properly designed and tested and has a warranty.
ARB is a good company. I bought a second hand jeep overseas and it came with the ARB awning. After a few thousand miles in, the fell off my roof rack. It wasn't the mount, it was the rivets in the awning backing. ARB warrantied it and sent me a new one. 👍
FYI - my Chinese knockoff has been running strong for over a year now. Also - it arrived much better packaged than the one in this video. So no complaints so far. When the day comes that it finally does crap out….I’d buy another.
Side note: I have ARB genuine locker in front of my rig, Chinese knockoff in the rear. Both are holding up. One problem I did have with the Chinese knockoff is that the air solenoid leaked air when the locker was engaged. Not enough to keep the locker from engaging - but it bugged me because it caused the compressor to kick on faster. The company would not warranty it so I had to go out and buy an ARB solenoid (about $90). Not happy about that. But the locker itself is doing just fine. So….would I buy another Chinese locker? Tough call. Pissed about their lack of warranty support but at less than half the price of an ARB…that’s hard to stay pissed. Hate to admit it but…yeah…I probably would!
My rule of thumb on buying China is: never buy anything you don’t plan on using immediately. Quality control sucks in China. So if it’s a lemon and you catch that fast - you can get it replaced under warranty. But if you get a good one - chances are it will work well for you and you’d have saved a ton of $$$
Quality control in "KNOCK OFF STUFF" in China is next to NONE. You generalized it so much and make it sound like everything made in China is garbage. Let me remind you your iPhone and 70 to 80 percent of products in your household is made in China. Reputable foreign company products "under strict quality control" are made in China before it even leaves the factory. If it wasn't made in China you wouldn't be able to afford the cost. Many components of high end products are out sourced from China but yet they claimed made in there country when in actual FACT it's only assembled in there country.
Pretty sure these knock off won’t have high quality control unless they are try to dig into there profits
So the ARB is made where? Check the box..
Thnx for the review.
Nah, you really DO need to strip them down and compare the internals - not just to see what's bad about the knock-off but also to see what's special about the ARB.
Honestly, as long as it's half-decent, I wouldn't care whether it was "original" or not.
Problems only start when scumbags buy the knock-offs from China, ship 'em across and then slam ARB stickers on them before re-selling them.
If ARB is made in china they deserve to get ripped off. If not boycott this crap. Can anyone confirm?
@@DieselJLUJeep All of ARB and Ironman4X4 have moved to China and Thailand
@@RedDevilTuningIncorrect. Some ARB products are still made in Australia. Mostly the newer stuff like bull bars for newer vehicles etc.
Once proven, manufacturing moves offshore to make room for new product development.
@@damianstein2 you literally just confirmed they manufacture overseas (China)
@@RedDevilTuningjust because it’s made in China doesn’t mean it’s garbage
Your phone is made in China
Your clothes are made in China
Your kids toys are made in China
Your power tools are made in China
Your batteries are made in China
Your furniture is made in China
Etc.
I've had the knock-off one and it performed very well, I now have the ARB and looking forward to installing it. My thought is the Chinese one you purchased was a returned/used, so you really never know what you're getting in a knock-off.
I don’t know about the compressors but the snorkels are absolutely identical. Specifically the TJ and WJ models. The accordion tube slightly different but the box plates, and snorkel are identical. On my TJ the real safari Snorkel I replaced my fake one with, went exactly into the same holes
can you explain please how are your setup pour automatic air down all tire. thank
I recently got the ARB "Ford Performance" single compressor that comes mounted in the the little tool box lookin thing and it's pretty awesome. It fits perfectly behind my passenger seat in my RCSB F150.
The tool box it comes in is really nice quality, the switches and wiring looks good and those air connections are super bitchin. People "oooh" and "ahhhh" when I whip it out, it's pretty extra lol
Last part of your comment cracked me up, lol
@@MohawkDaveOffRoad ;p
the condition the knock off compressor was in, is probably a send back from someone
the scratches and complete opening in bag is very likely from it being opened by someone and not from shipping
I doubt it. The box actually had the plastic straps on it on all four corners.
Thanks for posting. I recently bought one for my mobile service truck and wasn't sure if it was a REAL ARB or not. but I have always felt the performance was a bit lacking especially at the higher pressures.. Pretty sure I got a knock off. I will watch for that closer when the time comes to replace it.
Should have given a little more detail on how it has worked. I bought mine 6/14/21 and have been running it commercially ever since. it seems really slow and struggles at the higher pressures. it kicks off at 85PSI (not sure where the ARB does) but it would be nice to get a little more out of it. I do have it coupled with a 5-gallon tank but it seems slower than I would expect for a twin compressor.
For high pressure continuous duty output look at the PUMA 12v compressors... They are more suited to high pressure vs. typical 70psi and under optimized 12v compressors... They put out 1.5-2 cfm at 90psi depending on model for less than $300 (if you just buy the compressor head) they also have 1.5 and 3 gallon assembled units...
@@berryreading4809 I will keep that in mind. My only concern is the space it takes. I do like the form of these ARB compressors because I can tuck them in a corner and let them do their thing. Space is limited in my setup.
That scared the crap out of me when the line popped off!
Thanks for info, wish you did a total tear down of the internals
Cheap arb knock off came in my jeep 5 yrs ago and still runs great
Good video, would be nice to see your set up and the way it was installed. Thanks for the video
I do have a video on that. th-cam.com/video/A-81o89vJS4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zhwajakYHbwcILV7
It's so important to air down for the curbs at the mall. Jk. That jeep is clean, though. Thanks for covering this. Much needed comparison
You can’t forget the snow piles in the parking lots. 😂
I like this review, I’m always sus of an “off road rig” that’s this clean tho.
one thing on the wiring: copper wiring will carry more current than the non-copper wiring for the same gauge
Good job, dude!
Thanks!
My guess is that higher temperature we're seeing on the knock-off is due to that 24V fan that was only running at 12V. Swap it out for a 12V higher-rated fan & it should be good. I got unlucky with a generic Chinese compressor for my OBA. It only worked for a day before the reed valve snapped off due to being made from cheap metal. Swapped it out for a Viair unit & been running with it for over 2 years daily, no issues whatsoever. I did fabricate a mount for a 12V monster of a fan & that has helped to keep the compressor at a reasonable operating temp.
Saying that, I am, however, impressed with Chinese build quality IF YOU PONY UP for better materials. I commissioned a build for a 60V lithium-ion pressure washer that can go up to 1200 PSI, 1.8 GPM, detachable 15AH battery pack, and adjustable output pressure dial. The Chinese manufacturer gave me a few options ranging from ultra-cheap to decently pricey, with regards to the pump head, the controller electronics as well as the brand of 18650 cells to use in the battery pack. I specified certain options and the grand total came up to be about 550USD before shipping and taxes.
Sure it wasn't cheap as we might have expected, but for something that doesn't really exist on the current market, it was reasonable. I mean, battery powered pressure washers exist aplenty, but not one that can go over 1000 PSI (Sunjoe has one that only goes up to 800 PSI), flow rate of over 1.8 GPM, and can run for an hour continuously at max pressure. And I have been using this washer for over a year now, at least twice every week. No problems at all. The unit still works and feels as it did when I got it. Nothing rattles or cracked. So it's not all bad news when you get something that's made in China. Sure it's a gamble, but if you wanted to save a few bucks that's something you have to deal with. Else, buy original from reputable sources.
China will build anything you want. The fact is they build to PRICE. Americans ONLY go to china for one thing. CHEAP. and that is what they get.
Make sure to keep your air disconnects covered and protected if you mount them out side or under your vehicle as shown.
The dedication to making a product exactly like the ARB one is pretty impressive.
It is the same Chinese factory that makes them for ARB. Common as rice and sushi in China.
18:03 Shining a flashlight in to a port does not deem what is "inside of them" unless yo tear each one apart and really look to see the difference.
I’m going to venture to say that these are probably made in the same factory. The difference would be QC branding and little cost saving parts.
I was kinda just planning on plugging a pancake compressor into the lighter socket.. It technically functions...
What brand are the red chucks that you're plugging your hoses into. I would love to be able to connect one handed. Please tell me.
Amazon. www.amazon.com/WYNNsky-Universal-Industrial-Compressor-Accessories/dp/B07K674P45?crid=10MT37R6A35DS&keywords=wynnsky%2Bair%2Bhose%2Bfittings%2Buniversal&qid=1643832215&sprefix=wynsky%2Bair%2Bhose%2Bfittings%2Buniversal,aps,82&sr=8-2&th=1&linkCode=sl1&tag=davidpeciulis-20&linkId=ae2de48ddfec2568ca941bdaed4ec3a3&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl
My last ARB Twin was defective from the factory, only one motor worked. I fixed it, sold it, and replaced it with a Maxi Trac for way less $ and it's way faster.
Same identical thing for me except that I returned mine and received a new replacement that did the Same Thing!
I had already owned a MaxiTrac that I got from some rewards points with NAPA and after using it a few times I bought two more when they were on sale for $99 last November. I’m keeping one as a spare and have slightly modified both that I use currently. These things kick ass!
I returned my maxi trac the are super crappy in side. Pot metal crank and not parts or warranty.
Viair is the way to go. Quality and parts available
@@MS-kh2je Last I checked the biggest Viair had about half the flow rating of the MaxiTrac and it was way more expensive. I don't care if the crank is made of pot metal as long as it doesn't break and I haven't heard of that happening. The ARB is made with much higher quality parts, and I've had two that were junk.
You should have taken it back and got a warranty replacement mate. ARB are VERY good with their warranties.
@@noobsoff-road They are very good about warrantee. This one was on a Jeep I'd bought and the previous owner didn't have the receipt, but they did offer to send me a motor based on my word of it being in warrantee. Since I'd have to tear into it to replace the motor I decided to do it before getting the motor and discovered that they hadn't released one of the brushes when it was assembled. I told them it was fixed and no longer needed the motor. I'd previously bought a truck with a dead Twin Air and no receipt, they sent me a replacement unit based on the serial number, great customer support.
My Jeep is a high end build (well over $100k in mods) and it slightly bothered me to put a cheapo compressor on it, but the performance convinced me.
Nice review, however I think I herd the knock off one leaking air as soon as you started it up, then at the end as soon as you touched it the hose poped off, so that could very easily be your extra 1 min there.
I would of ran the hard braided line rather than the plastic push fittings. The plain brown boxes the ARB ones come in when the warehouse gets them actually say "made in China".
What I say that's happened is Australia designed it, made the first one but sent it to China to build it cheaper, then that company doesn't have to abide by the patent cause the patent isn't world wide, might only be in Australia and the US, so China can legally sell them to who ever they want.
Maybe they may change tiny things to make it a bit cheaper for them. They have the same instruction manual.
The ARB one you can get here in Australia for about $650 AUD, ARB sell them for about $700 AUD. The Chinese ones are about $400 US and shipping is about $250US so with the conversion rate that's about $935 aud so the Chinese one is actually more expensive. Say even without shipping it's $575 AUD so the product itself is only $75aud cheaper than ARB so for that little difference I would expect to get a very close (If not, the same) product.
Also ARB have recently changed their design of the boxes to the new "AIR" logo, but before that even the boxes were the same.
But time will tell
The catch 22 for businesses that design their own product but then farm out the actual manufacturing to China to save money is that the Chinese plants will copy the product using cheap materials or actually just run extra down the line without the branded name and sell it through Ebay , Amazon etc at lower price points . I have received exactly the same item as brand name products and have also been duped by something that just outwardly appears to be the same . This appears to be the latter , a copied design but made with inferior parts and assembly . Personally I would just buy the ARB single compressor for the same money and be assured it would not leave me flat on a trail somewhere .
Great video, very informative. Too bad my Chineese Puma has been running perfectly for last 7 years otherwise I'd order the knock off.
Would have liked a tear down comparison.
Arb is made in China but assembled in Australia. Like alot of other companies that are "made" elsewhere other than China.
I bought the single ARB, its good. overpriced for a air compressor, IMO, considering all the other options on the market, not sure if I'd buy ARB again, just from a price standpoint.
I'm thinking paying the extra $200.+ for the ARB will be worth it in the end.
My Mercedes has a built in air compressor for the deflated spare, just checking out the hype😊 the construction differences and higher operating temperature tells me that the motors aren't the same quality, along with the warranty I would buy the ARB because I can afford it😂
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I had a knock off.. it broke and the company sent me a brand new one at no cost. So mehh.... if they keep breaking I'll just go ARB but so far the experience has been good.
With only half the price at most, what you really need to test is the long term reliability.
Are Arb Compressors Made in China?
Yes, ARB compressors are made in China. The company has a manufacturing facility there that produces a variety of air compressor models for different applications. While some people may have concerns about products made in China, ARB stands behind the quality of its compressors and offers a three-year warranty on all of its products.
I think you just showed us that the ARB is made in China ,and ARB charges $200 for the name?
You pay for quality, the ARB will still be going strong years after the knockoff is in landfill.
@@Jabber-ig3iw I have the ARB With the Kracken, Now I want to go bottle.
Maybe arb has their stuff made in China like everybody else. People have stuff made in China to increase profit.
Im a Aussie...and thats exactly what is going on. Be careful not much is actually made completely from scratch in Australia.
Looks like Rough Country is selling one of these knock offs now.
I bet you, a lot of ARB stuff are not "made" in Australia, some stuff is assembled there but definitely not made.
So does anyone have a link for the knockoff?
What quick release fittings are they your using for the hoses
Amazon.
If able to fit it, how much of a benefit would swapping that hard 90 fitting out of the ARB with a sweeping 90 to reduce pressure loss.
Probably not by any measurable amount. Some fittings have very poor flow, but most are good, no way to know without seeing the inside of that one.
I don’t think there would be that much noticeable difference.
How much is the china one and where did you buy it? I work with china on developing products and I can tell you that most factories don't care who they sell to. If I were to guess based on my experience, the Chinese factory either supplies ARB with some parts or ARB reached out to them for a sample of parts and the factory started making the item. Also, the link in the description of the vid that bring your to your amazon store is broken.
It's a hundred dollars less for the copy. It was on Amazon. They made it look good almost identical.
IN AUSTRALIA THE ARB TWIN AIR COMPRESSOR SELL ABOUT $1,099 AUSTRALIA DOLLARS
HARD FIND AIRCOMPRESSOR PUMP UP 120PSI FOR MY TRUCK TYRES AS RUN AT 90PSI FOR HIGHWAY
Nice set up! What couplings are you using on the bumper?
Literally cheap amazon ones. They work great and its easy to replace. I keep one spare in my gear just incase, but have not had the need to replace one. here is the link amzn.to/3wEfvXg
Ive got ARB everything except my compressor which is a Chinese one, which has served me well for close to 5 years and performed faultlessly. I would love to fault it but just can't, maybe I got lucky
I’ve had two ARB twin compressors. One wouldn’t work out the box, the other lasted almost a year. I’ll still probably keep buying ARB but reality is, they ain’t that well built and they’re riding on a brand name.
People have to understand that the Chinese build down to a price, not up to a standard.
In all likelihood the original and the knock off are made in adjoining factories in China.
I was really hoping you were going to do a tear down. To say “they’re completely different inside” better be what any rep would say! It would great if you could pull one of the motor assembles (very easy to do without disassembling anything else) to compare. The original motor assembly is available for $175. I seriously doubt that there is much difference between the two. It would be too expensive otherwise. Likely, these 'knock offs' are factory seconds. Take them apart and clean them up and you probably will get a bargain! :)
Id run them in parallel for faster fill 😅
I played your comment many times, so what you are saying is do not buy a cheap knock-off unless it's a ARB, or their product is just as good and cheaper if you buy from a shady website, copy of the ARB Compressor.
How are you airing down within the cabin?
Here is the video on that. Jeep JL Wrangler and JT Gladiator ARB Twin Air Compressor - Air Down With A Button- DIY On Board Air
th-cam.com/video/A-81o89vJS4/w-d-xo.html
Factory seconds/QC fail? Over order/over manufacturer?
What kinda is the knockoff?
What brand is the Chinese version. Where do I find it
Generic brand - Amazon
did I miss the important fact ? WHAT'S THE PRICE DIFFERENCE !!!!!!!! And did hear him say spend the EXTRA FEW HUNDRED for the ARB ??? !!!
One of the ads shows "US Seller" . Chinese, and sold from a US website? Steering clear of that one.
Rough Country makes a clone now. Half the price and solid warranty.
The output air line should never be made of plastic because the compressed air comes out hot and will weaken and soften the plastic. One up on the ARB for the braided steel line. Great comparo video.
Thank you.
I believe this knock off is the exact same compressor that overland vehicle systems sells
To me, it looks like it is 2nd hand and resold
You didn't run the same diameter outlet hose. The arb had a larger diameter stainless hose for the initial output hose and you didn't swap that to the knockoff. The knockoff hose is smaller diameter which reduces airflow.
Actually the stainless is a slightly smaller diameter…
Not the best review. If you tested the electricals, you will find that the ARB outperforms most compressors for heat at higher PSI and doesn't work as hard to do it. Also, you can get spare parts for ARB compressors. Best of luck getting those from your Chinese counterparts. AND you get three year warranty. You get what you pay for.
If the ARB compressor is made/assembled in Australia, they will let you know everywhere including the box and will probably stamp it on the salesman's forehead.
Bought the Chinese one on Alibaba, it is not a knock off. The reason everything is similar is because ARB is made in the same factory but with superior parts (bearings, anodized piston, better finish/anodizing but exact same motor). So basically if you'll pay them the same or more as ARB, they will make you an exact ARB clone or even better.
Is it worth it? Chinese one was 150 USD/180 for the kit but no market for it. At 450USD retail with no warranty there is absolutely no sense in buying it whatsoever when an ARB is 650 with warranty.
Very true 🤣
200% mark up XD
Ebay gives a warranty
Yeah cos ARB will have no issue at all with the factory they contract to build their products building knockoffs to undercut them🙄🙄🙄
Black hose is also small looking
I would not call them "fake air compressors" as they are actually compressors, I would call them shitty replicas.
chanchs are the customs people did that here in the USA
can i have the nokoff
ARB is overpriced and overhyped imo, but I got it because the copy was like 70 usd cheaper with less warranty. That plus, I can get parts anywhere around the globe. Holding them side by side arb felt better quality and finish. If the copy was quarter or half the price then I would’ve bought it.
ARB gets their components from China, and assembled and tested in Australia, they are not fully manufactured in Australia.
Based on what you showed it seemed apparent that the knockoff was a good deal for the money, that they in no way ever said it was an ARB, so if you bought one you knew that you were taking a chance on just what it is, a knockoff. Definitely performed well in your test, viable option for someone on a budget. Curious note on the ARB site as far as manufacture, they only state the compressors are assembled and tested in Australia, typically a dead giveaway that the parts are from China.
And where is ARB made?
ARB doesn't manufacture compressors in Australia they out source to China then quality control them and make sure thier within spec in Australia.
I think they are made by HF in China of ARB
$340 it better be the same or real close quality a knock off should be like half of less
Does that jeep actually even touch dirt or is this a show rig....
It’s both. And lots of cleaning…
I think sadly it may be that arb designed it but has china build it just like everything anymore I thank that’s probably why arb didn’t want to be recorded on you tube they know that it would be a legal thing it’s exactly why I’m not a brand man why pay over half more for something that runs down the same assembly plant
Or ARB just private labels their product from the same factory
Calling ARB for answers was not the best thing to do. As for the other comment, yes they get there made in china also. 10% gets u out of a patent and 1 min is not that long for filling up 4 tires
I sold my ARB twin and replaced it with a $100 Chinese compressor that outperforms it, the Maxi Trac. It felt wrong putting a cheap Chinese accessory in a very high dollar Jeep, but after airing up four 40" tires in 5 minutes I mostly got over it. If the ARB hadn't had a factory defect (one dead motor) it would have probably been fast enough to keep me from searching for an alternative.
@@DonziGT230did you air them up from 39.95 PSI to 40PSI to get it to go in 5 minutes?
@@aaronj08ar No, and I almost ignored your stupid question, but some reasonable people might be curious. I typically air down to 8-10PSI for off-road and back to 27-28 PSI for the road. If I go down to 8 and up to 28 it can take as long as 7 minutes instead of only 5.
You say is cheaper....
In Australia the copy is actually more 🤣 what do you pay for real and fake?
After I watch this video a long time ago I orderd the knock off, its been fitted for over a year and used as required, no problems at all. The ARB is well over price.. sorry ARB
Glad it worked out for you. I have heard it going both ways. It really seems like hit or miss.
Johnny 5 is alive
😂 totally!
Waist of money get a m18 inflator does everything that arb does but much smaller and portable