I own both flsun T1 and flsun V400. I have been using V400 for 2 years. Before T1 and S1 were launched, V400 has been the fastest 3D printer on the market.T1 has made many upgrades on the basis of V400 (further improving printing speed, time-lapse photography, enclosed printing spaces, etc.); V400 and T1 are my favorite printing tools;
FLSUN certainly know how to make a hotend. I was really impressed with the V400 when I reviewed it earlier this year, and the T1 is a big step up again. I think I'd rather have the V400 at home - the user interface is perfect and it's already fast enough. But if I had to design and print stuff professionally and if noise wasn't a concern the T1 definitely wins. Do you find the build volume of the T1 enough?
Impressive collection! How do you manage the noise? Are they in your home or in a garage/workshop. Now that I've returned the T1 my projects are agonisingly slow to complete on my other printers haha
The noise is, to be quite blunt, obnoxious. The print speed is phenomenal and the noise would be a non issue in a workshop environment but it's too much for inside a home, imo.
The weight isn't so bad, but again I have gotten used to deltas - the T1 can be moved by one person without too much trouble. Way bigger and heavier than a little bedslinger though. In terms of price, so many people seem to be casually buying Bambu X1Cs which cost twice what the T1 does so I think the T1 presents much pretty good value.
flsun as told me do not load the filament from the frount it mat tangle up revice it let the filament fcome down from the back it will not tangle up at all
I'm afraid it's not the right product, if I want a super fast printer I get a corexy like a Ratrig or a Voron. I'd get a delta for a fancy fast prototype printer to keep on my desktop while I'm drawing but that thing is too big and too noisy for that.
It's definitely not for everybody. The noise would be ok for me in a workshop, not really suitable for inside a home. That said, I don't think anything at the same price point can offer similar performance. A ratrig or voron would cost at least double, and also take much longer to assemble. If I needed rapid prints on a semi regular basis I'd be happy with a T1.
Those hotend figures sound false. Have you seen the reviews of its bigger brother? It couldnt even hit a third of the advertised volumetric flow. I think you may have succumb to their marketing lie of a built in flow rate file which never actually moves the hotend fast enough to get even close to the advertised flowrates. You can sort of see it too, because hotends that actually get those sorts of flow rates are way longer, and ooze a whole lot.
I saw the fudged flowrate stuff with the S1 and flsunslicer. I sliced my own calibration gcode on Orcaslicer, verifying on the preview the print speeds and flow rates (which if I recall correctly is how the fudged calibration was exposed with the S1). If you watch the screengrab video where I show the Moonraker error the live flow rate readout shows 86+ mm³/s (I forget how much exactly) before Klipper reboots. The only thing I didn't do was physically measure the speed of the filament coming off the spool as it printed. I don't think there's much more I can do to test the flow rate in a controlled and consistent way. Seriously, get your hands on a T1 and some OzFDM HS ABS and run the test yourself, and let's compare data. If I've made a mistake somewhere I'd like to know. I came into this test reasonably well prepared having heard about the dodgy S1 flow rate test and did what I could within my skill set to test properly. But I will say one thing - a printer that actually meets its claimed specs? Unheard of right? Hence I was pleasantly surprised. And then really disappointed by the build volume issue. So you win some, you lose some. Thanks for commenting!
@DrAlanQuan It's good to hear of independent testing, though, (and you probably checked to be fair), If I recall correctly, sometimes the readout in various klipper front-ends can be requested speed as opposed to actually hit speeds. I believe this is part of why CNC kitchen for instance, developed their scale measurement system for measuring volumetric flow where the weight of filament can only tell the truth. Nevertheless, I can appreciate the effort.
Yeah I'm definitely relying a lot on what I see on the screen (commanded speed and flow rate on the preview, and live readout on Klipper) versus old school analogue measurement. I don't have the genius of CNC Kitchen to devise fully independent means of analysis. Anyway, just like in medical research we do the best we can, others will critique, and we all learn. Hopefully my data turns out to be reliable.
The instantaneous flow rate of T1 is 90, which is obvious. If it is a continuous and constant flow rate, it is about 55, but it is still about 2 times that of other brands of printers.
I own both flsun T1 and flsun V400. I have been using V400 for 2 years. Before T1 and S1 were launched, V400 has been the fastest 3D printer on the market.T1 has made many upgrades on the basis of V400 (further improving printing speed, time-lapse photography, enclosed printing spaces, etc.); V400 and T1 are my favorite printing tools;
FLSUN certainly know how to make a hotend. I was really impressed with the V400 when I reviewed it earlier this year, and the T1 is a big step up again.
I think I'd rather have the V400 at home - the user interface is perfect and it's already fast enough. But if I had to design and print stuff professionally and if noise wasn't a concern the T1 definitely wins. Do you find the build volume of the T1 enough?
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Thanks for the kind words!
Thanks for sharing your insights, they’re super helpful!
Thanks for your kind words :) more coming!
I have nine 3d printers including two T1. T1 is definitely my favorite printing tool.
Impressive collection! How do you manage the noise? Are they in your home or in a garage/workshop. Now that I've returned the T1 my projects are agonisingly slow to complete on my other printers haha
This was robbery when it was first listed at $1000. It's finally worth it with the T1 Pro upgrades at $400.
Yeah the current pricing is proper value
very detail🤩🤩
Thank you! Do you think the T1 will suit you?
great review mate, was considering it till i heard the fan haha my printers are next to my sim.
The noise is, to be quite blunt, obnoxious. The print speed is phenomenal and the noise would be a non issue in a workshop environment but it's too much for inside a home, imo.
Thanks for thiscvideo. What slicer do you use?
Thanks for watching! Orcaslicer is my software of choice
Iit's also my choice 🤗 . Have you presets specialy ? @@DrAlanQuan
Just my speed benchy profile which is basically 1000mm/s everything with no cooling haha
this thing is so fast but so heavy. might need a bank loan but i want one so badly
The weight isn't so bad, but again I have gotten used to deltas - the T1 can be moved by one person without too much trouble. Way bigger and heavier than a little bedslinger though.
In terms of price, so many people seem to be casually buying Bambu X1Cs which cost twice what the T1 does so I think the T1 presents much pretty good value.
flsun as told me do not load the filament from the frount it mat tangle up revice it let the filament fcome down from the back it will not tangle up at all
That's really interesting! I can't visualise in my mind how that would make any difference but it definitely sounds worthy of testing
I'm afraid it's not the right product, if I want a super fast printer I get a corexy like a Ratrig or a Voron.
I'd get a delta for a fancy fast prototype printer to keep on my desktop while I'm drawing but that thing is too big and too noisy for that.
It's definitely not for everybody. The noise would be ok for me in a workshop, not really suitable for inside a home.
That said, I don't think anything at the same price point can offer similar performance. A ratrig or voron would cost at least double, and also take much longer to assemble.
If I needed rapid prints on a semi regular basis I'd be happy with a T1.
Those hotend figures sound false. Have you seen the reviews of its bigger brother? It couldnt even hit a third of the advertised volumetric flow. I think you may have succumb to their marketing lie of a built in flow rate file which never actually moves the hotend fast enough to get even close to the advertised flowrates.
You can sort of see it too, because hotends that actually get those sorts of flow rates are way longer, and ooze a whole lot.
I saw the fudged flowrate stuff with the S1 and flsunslicer. I sliced my own calibration gcode on Orcaslicer, verifying on the preview the print speeds and flow rates (which if I recall correctly is how the fudged calibration was exposed with the S1). If you watch the screengrab video where I show the Moonraker error the live flow rate readout shows 86+ mm³/s (I forget how much exactly) before Klipper reboots.
The only thing I didn't do was physically measure the speed of the filament coming off the spool as it printed.
I don't think there's much more I can do to test the flow rate in a controlled and consistent way. Seriously, get your hands on a T1 and some OzFDM HS ABS and run the test yourself, and let's compare data.
If I've made a mistake somewhere I'd like to know. I came into this test reasonably well prepared having heard about the dodgy S1 flow rate test and did what I could within my skill set to test properly.
But I will say one thing - a printer that actually meets its claimed specs? Unheard of right? Hence I was pleasantly surprised.
And then really disappointed by the build volume issue. So you win some, you lose some.
Thanks for commenting!
@DrAlanQuan It's good to hear of independent testing, though, (and you probably checked to be fair), If I recall correctly, sometimes the readout in various klipper front-ends can be requested speed as opposed to actually hit speeds.
I believe this is part of why CNC kitchen for instance, developed their scale measurement system for measuring volumetric flow where the weight of filament can only tell the truth.
Nevertheless, I can appreciate the effort.
Yeah I'm definitely relying a lot on what I see on the screen (commanded speed and flow rate on the preview, and live readout on Klipper) versus old school analogue measurement. I don't have the genius of CNC Kitchen to devise fully independent means of analysis.
Anyway, just like in medical research we do the best we can, others will critique, and we all learn. Hopefully my data turns out to be reliable.
The instantaneous flow rate of T1 is 90, which is obvious. If it is a continuous and constant flow rate, it is about 55, but it is still about 2 times that of other brands of printers.
You look professional, but it's really just hearsay.