Outside of performance terms, the aesthetics of the card are quite attractive, especially for people like me who are a bit tired of seeing RGB everywhere.
Yeah rgb 🤮 not every component needs to be covered in it... ish. People who like it fine that's great but company's should make modular parts where there can be a rgb free version.
RGB is okay as long as it's not forced cycling rainbow stobing effects, and with the option for static color or to turn it off completely, can't be mad at a feature that you can turn off. I always liked reference cards because of the maturity of their design while outside vendors usually cater to children with juvenile themes. I think this card looks nice, But next time around I hope they use more aluminum and less plastic and no double sided tape. Even with the negatives of this launch they surpassed all my expectations.
Despite not being a home run, I'm excited to see a third player in the GPU market. I have strong hopes that Intel will eventually bring us better GPUs in the future
Yeah, we really need it. Nvidia is getting too full of themselves lately. We really need AMD and Intel to start making good cards so we have more options.
@@guyknightley3499 I mean, at the mid to low range AMD is actually outperforming Nvidia in the price-performace battle, even at the high end it is very competitive. That said, they need to improve their RT support and FSR 2.0, that's for sure. Hopefully 7000 series will bring that.
@@RandomGaminginHD Several large companies tried and failed miserably to claw their way into the GPU market after the Radeon/Geforce duopoly was established in the 2000s, Search for a review of the 'Volari Duo' to see how that went, SiS was a big semiconductor company back then. Given how vastly higher the bar is for compatibility and performance these days, I am actually impressed by Arc's out of the gate state. Drivers are rough but they show promise, intel just needs to Stick it through and they will be a slugging it out with Nvidia and AMD at the top in a few years no worries.
Thanks for actually testing DXVK on intel arc, something I don't think many if any other reviewers have bothered to do. I'd like to see more DXVK results also from you if possible on Arc.
I would say DXVK is an absolute must for Arc in GTA4, as it does not natively support DX9 and emulates it. Suppose Intel's rational was because 99% of DX9 games are featherweights next to the fat cow that is GTA4. Even modded Oblivion or Crysis OG in DX9 mode [where the demanding settings are not available] are no where near the FPS crushing boulders that is GTA4.
@@anasevi9456 For GTA 4 DXVK is a must, it even runs bad on my Strix RX580 while with DXVK almost all the FPS loss and stuttering goes away, but it's also the devs fault, they updated the game and instead of actually making it good they never cared. The latest release was like 2020 not that long ago yet the game still got stuck to 32bits and the original same crap badly optimized coding...
@@GorujoCY2 How would that cause a problem with anti cheats? Linux users pretty much use it daily in multiplayer games and don't have much problems with it.
Thanks for including GTA IV and DXVK… more people should know about it! I personally use DXVK for some time now but I think it would be very interesting for many of your subscribers too. Maybe you could do a dedicated video about DXVK and some games that benefit from it the most - it's fascinating technology but far too few people know about it at all.
i wonder if this will fix my issues with Wolfenstein. I have unplayable reloading times with Wolfenstein 2009 with my RX6600. This might possibly fix this.
DXVK does wonders on games that perform poorly on whatever the DirectX version they have, a good example is The Evil Within 2 which runs very poorly but DXVK really helps with performance.
Hope to see some benchmarks against the ARC-170. That thing must be struggling nowadays, considering it came out a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
if these ARC GPUs had come out a few months earlier, I’d’ve picked one up. Instead I got my cheeks clapped raw by Nvidia and EVGA with an RTX 3070ti. (EVGA because my upgrade program would have cost me $500 to step up to a card that, at the time of my 90-day upgrade program expiry, was CHEAPER than the price I paid for my 3070ti).
I think that with future driver updates, these cards will actually do really well, it's clear that they have the power to do 1440p, maybe even 4k, and for the price they are at, it might be a steal once the drivers improve
If it cannot run cyberpunk at 1080p on high at 60fps how the fuck do you expect it to run smooth in 4k? 💀💀💀 even at 1440p will probably grant you an unplayable game
This is a very good review of the products, thank you as always. I found this review more to the point, and yet more detailed than some of the reviews from the large big channels. I say that, keeping in mind this channel is not exactly a small channel anymore lol
I got the Arc A770 on backorder. I def intend to follow up with it with regards to drivers. I'm with you in that I too find it fascinating. Really hope Intel keeps down this path and improves.
CSGO has a vulkan renderer that can be enabled via adding -vulkan as a launch command. It's mostly there for Linux but worth trying with Arc. Unfortunately I haven't seen any reviewers benchmark with this option yet but I figure I'll make mention of it.
More videos regarding Intel ARC A750 graphic card would be appreciated. Definitely I would like to see reviewers testing the performance of this graphic card with 10th gen Intel chipset (eg. i3 10100 & i5 10400F) given that 10th gen Intel is the minimum requirement for ARC graphic card series.
Seeing a dxvk comparison was quite interesting. Makes me wonder if the overall gaming experience might actually be better with this hardware under GNU / Linux rather than Windows at this point in time. It's a shame there aren't all that many people outside of phoronix posting GNU / Linux benchmarks for Arc hardware.
Not just Arc hardware ... youtube is lacking linux benchmarks of pretty much any interesting hardware, really. either this, or the almighty algorithm just hides those videos from me. Are the new "open source" nvidia drivers better than their proprietary crap and do the new drivers make VR work again on linux? - who knows? How well does linux cope with intel's E+P core bullshit ? - who cares? ARM is doing that kind of stuff for ages and linux runs just fine there sooooo it'll be fine on intel - no need to test it or anything - right?
I mean , for a first gen product, it is pretty decent it seems to me. Sure, the drivers need to be tuned further, but that is completely understandable.
It's going to be interesting to see how the drivers on these improve over time and how well they age. I personally don't think I'll be buying an ARC GPU as my next upgrade, but it's nice to see some competition in the GPU market, maybe in a few months time the drivers and optimizations would've gotten better making it a little more usable. For the price though, this is a very good GPU.
Man I've been trying to get an Intel GPU. Its been on backorder since the 12th. Its surprising to see someone else who actually has one. They're seemingly far more scarce than the 30 and 6000 series at launch.
As a linux gamer, I'd love to see more dxvk related videos since that would help me choose which gpu to buy next. I'd love to have competition in gpu space and if dxvk performance is solid across the board and maybe vkd3d as well(once some driver related issues are fixed), the answer will be clear.
I've already ordered my A770 16Gb. Am I foolish, possibly but I think it's great to have another player in the market. I'm lucky to have a 3080 and 2060 Super as my main cards, but the Arc GPU's offer something a little different. I'm glad they've taken the view of supporting modern and upcoming games first and then working their way backwards. Design is brilliant, I hope it picks up a bit of a following if only to keep the other 2 honest, but they have a long road ahead with the drivers.
you are no folish but lucky and your probarly from us since you manage to buy one congrats to you, i want to buy one becasue it afordable but not yet to see anywhere in eu 6 months delay :( i stop beeing hyped for new things releesing, i know i wont get before 2 years laiter anyways :D
Yeah it's fantastic and efficient, not sure that you can use it on Twitch or anything yet so give it some time, Maybe TH-cam you can but I see most streamers prefer twitch or something
It's worth mentioning, that drivers are open source (excluding firmware). So we can see a huge performance boost in upcoming months, especially for Linux. Also we won't be stuck in drivers hell, like it is with Nvidia now.
The Linux driver is open source. The Windows one is not, and that's where most people will be using these cards. Improvements in the Linux driver also don't necessarily translate into the Windows one. AMD's OpenGL performance on Windows was woeful on Windows until recently when they fixed it, but it's been fine for years on Linux.
@@CaptainKenway Sorry for misunderstanding, english isn't my first language. What I meant was, that Intel Arc may be a revolution, when it comes to choosing a GPU on Linux. I hope, because Nvidia with Wayland drives many people mad :D
Those were interesting results, thanks for buying and reviewing the A750. I love tech enough that I would love to mess with one myself but my wallet is not in accord with my tech aspirations.. lol 🤷♂
Apart from the drivers needing a bit of work this seems like a promising competitor against AMD or NVIDIA. Soon the ARC cards or anything intel releases afterwards will be a solid choice for gamers.
I wonder how the card will do under Linux. Because anything direct X related, runs through vulkan, making dx11 and dx9 games may actually run much better than on windows.
@@flintfrommother3gaming Most rolling / semi-rolling distributions should have 6.0 pretty soon, it really isn't all that much of an issue unless you use a distribution with a fixed release cadence.
@@montagyuu5163 you can certainly install a later Linux kernel into any distro. Well, maybe you can't but it is a fairly trivial thing to do regardless. The ARC needs the git dev version of MESA to work too.
It is nice to see Intel try it out on the Market. I mean AMD and Nvidia rules the roost and even smaller "2d" GPU makers have stopped their own R&D and use GCN cores these days. So, Intel with its huge install base of IGP's has SOME knowledge!
@@mattBLACKpunk he probably refers to Matrox. They currently have Nvidia cards with modified BIOS, but a few years ago used modified AMD Chips. As in they were not Standard GPUs with only different Software but much more custom.
@@mattBLACKpunk The Matrox cards had better drivers than the AMD cards it was based off amusingly, by some distance. They should have got Matrox to make drivers for them.
@@timweber4318 Yup on this channel a matrox cards get reviewed that is not going to run AMD drivers but has GCN cores and is by the creator of this channel, very stable..
the very fact you used dxvk makes you the best reviewer of the gpu i am proud you have come so far .. also add guild wars 2 to the bench it's very heavy game more so then most titles
Their performance is very late 90s early 00s, in the sense of only being good in some games and poor in others. So the box is fitting! A good and informative video as always Sir!
yeah... pretty disappointed with my A750 so far. Tried to test it with Arkham Knight and the game won't launch at all. Tried it with Resident Evil 2 Remake and it runs at a pretty solid 120fps, but with Elden Ring the performance might be worse than my old 1060
They won't run well at all cause they don't have driver support and I doubt intel would go back and give support to all them old titles except some very popular ones. But for future dx12 titles and going forward I think arc would be pretty great.
the price is low because they know they offer nothing on a very bad market after covid and criptocrash remember that those people are righ now are beta testers because intel is like that, you are paying for the privilege of being a beta tester
if they don't cancel the project like the did so many times in the past when they see how hard is to succeed on a market and then run away in panic, just look at optane
I wonder if the best scenario for ARC GPUs right now is to use the card under Linux with Proton and use DXVK with all games. Might be interesting to see.
DXVK for Windows users if you want to see the improvement and your game doesn't have an Anti-cheat or some sort that prevents modification Linux users aren't going to have to worry about anything since all games Proton or not run in Vulkan
I would like to see how the pre DX9 games play, such as GTA 3, Rainbow Six 1, Frogger, NFS3, Half-Life, etc. I have not seen any videos or benchmarks on them
that is because intel did not made dx9 drivers, they run on a emulation sort of mode to run on dx11, as you saw on the gta 4, it runs like garbage they never had support for that and you can see it, they went for dx11/12 and vulkan tbh, only few games of that era are still relevant, but shows how intel had to focus effort on just part of the games, and proves that their drivers leave everything to be desired
@@arch1107 yes such old games have very little relevance but many GOG games still use the old renderers. Plus other Gog games have a DirectX9 transformation layer and I am curious about how it performs, then there is nGlide
@@RandomGaminginHD Just finishing up the video now and am even more convinced that right now is the best time to build or buy a new competitive 1080p system on both the new and used market. The 12400f/6600xt build if done smartly with a 1tb nvme can easily be done new for $600 right now. Used I can build a 5600X/3060ti system for the same price or $700 for a 3070 build…crazy to think I was fighting daily to buy $750 ftw3 3060ti’s to sell at $800 (unopened)
@@RandomGaminginHD Hey man, I don’t really know how much it is to ship something across the pond, but I have a Open box Sliger 560 and new Seasonic focus 500w for $110 obo. Normally I wouldn’t try to sell anything like this, but I figure if I have to give up the case it would be rad to have purchased the Antec Skeleton that Tech Yes City showed for $45 (it was the next city to mine randomly) and immortalize my favorite sandwich case thus far!
I agree. These are probably the only GPUs ever that will get better, not worse, over time. And yes, that DXVK stuff is MAGIC. Is that available for other games? I'd love to hear more about that.
@@1pcfred DX9 is still used in some very popular games. Team Fortress 2 and CS:GO are still played by millions and they exclusively use DX9. Also, a lot of people still play older games. The idea of not wanting to play or support a game just because it's old is baffling to me.
@@freshroyaloficecapzone2154 exclusively is an interesting take seeing as I've been playing CSGO with OpenGL for the past 6 years and they just released Vulkan support.
I have the A770... it's a mess. For some games its great. When it's bad. It's BAD. Random crashes, bad frame pacing, and yes, it cries like a baby under load. That's OK with me though. I expected it to be miserable.
csgo automatically caps fps nowadays for all gpus. Most of my nvidia gpus have been capped to 400 fps, whereas amd gpus previously have been capped at much lower, and needed to always manually uncap
@@RandomGaminginHD You should also try dxvk-async as it is supposed to eleminate more compiling stutter. I am very curius if it really does improve performance in non-optimized games. If yes, I wonder why Intel is not officially using this. It would alleviate most of their problems until they optimize their driver for all games.
Thanks for the detailed testing, I'll be looking forward to seeing what else you find out about this card in the future. I hope Intel can pull it together and finally inject some much needed competition into the space.
I think these cards look great, I prefer the A770 with the subtle lighting around the fans, but really like the clean minimalist look that they have going on. Performance seems pretty good too, definitely usable. Im still using my trusty 1080ti till I can afford to upgrade my power supply and gpu. Appreciate all the videos and your humour!
🤔Like you said, its up to them to fix a lot of things but it truly is their first effort at doing discrete. I was not expecting a flawless launch and the RT is good/media engine is good. I look forward to seeing what they do in the next 8 months or so.
The lack of proper support for older games is a complete deal breaker IMO - having access to a massive library of older games that can look and run their best years later on modern hardware is my #1 favourite thing about the PC platform - They really need to address this
That's the price you pay for existing in a closed source ecosystem. Your binary code base goes out of date. It's just dumb. You're willfully turning your computer into a planned obsolescence appliance. Commercial developers are laughing all the way to the bank at your expense too. Congratulations!
I'm excited for the ARC GPUs. I'm fully planning on picking up an A770. It won't really be an upgrade compared to my 1070ti, but I am excited to play around with them
That's a pretty impressive gpu for the price! I hope we get a LP version of that. It's obviously not gonna have the exact same performance, but it would be a pretty good budget option.
Radeon still beats Arc on price to performance. Which is probably why Intel didn't mention AMD at all in their presser. Seems like DXVK fixes a lot of its issues, but unfortunately that relegates the card to hobbyists, since not a ton of people know about it. I haven't seen many videos exploring Linux performance. Proton includes DXVK by default with the game download. Depending on the situation with the MESA drivers, I wonder if Linux might actually be the best use case for Arc.
Intel should put DXVK or something similar into their drivers (if it's possible) for DX9 games. They said that they won't be working on native DX9 support, so that's better than relying on the Windows' DX9 emulation.
I bought an A750 and have been very happy with it. The encoding quality and speed is better than my 3090... For gaming I obviously use the 3090, but that cost me $1600. I've tested it out for gaming though, and have enjoyed it, the performance was around 3060-3060 Ti levels and I only had one bug in my first week of use.
I absolutely love these designs. Intel hit it out of the park when it comes to giving you a lot for what you’re paying; an Av1 encoder, plentiful vram, and really nice sleek designs. Hopefully once the drivers improve, early adopters will have a cheaper, more powerful card than a lot of the competition (I’d also love to see these cards in white, their clean aesthetic would work great in an all white build)
I love Intel is back in the GPU market. I still have one 740 AGP in my collection. Regarding this new ARC models, as showin in some reviews, my main dislike is the unnecesary mechanical complexity. Disassembling these cards to clean the fans is a nightmare, and the extra cost added completely unnecessary, imho. Regading drivers, I am confidents things are going to improve significantly, but you cannot fix afterwards hardware choices. I wish Intel the best in this front. Fair competition is very welcomed and great news for everyone.
i was waiting for a review more like yours, to see if i wanted an arc gpu or not. i have a laptop i can play games on if the arc gpu doesnt work well for whatever reason, so i think i may get one now. Thanks for making the review!
Definitely interested in you testing DXVK for lower end cards. I think Saints Row 2 also could use that, otherwise GTA IV must be run with it for no stuttering.
I've bought one too, I not installed it yet though. However first impressions are excellent everything about it from the packaging to the weight and build give a premium feel.
@@RandomGaminginHD how are you getting on with yours? I've been running mine for a couple of days in ff14 and a couple of other games and so far it's Been rock solid. Only negative I have to say is it uses 30-40 more Watts than my 6700 non xt
It's kind of fun to use DXVK to translate API and not impact it negatively, but boost it a lot on ARC. "I just wonder how it would work better on other games." It shows proof that ARC on Linux is something that could work well. I wonder if there is a way to run DXVK on Windows.
A couple of reviews said having a CPU was Resizable Bar enabled was essential for the new intel graphics cards. Can you do a quick video highlighting the issue with an older cpu? I’m sure a few people may get the card with an older cpu and be performance limited.
Thank you for actually reviewing the card, instead of the usual TH-cam tech suspects whining about a benchmark number. Those numbers tell us what they tell us, but at the end of the day, those numbers mean jackshit. I also appreciate your remark about how in a few years this card will probably be looked at more fondly, due to early ARC drivers. I'm going to keep those usual tech suspects in mind 5 years from now and see if they sing a different tune. I assure you, one of them will have the gall to say, "I never thought the A750 was bad!" Right, right.
i am early A770 LE adopter and absolutely no regret RT handles better than it´s competitors on pair with pure rasterization power and of course 16 VRAM with 258 memory bit bus nicely done!
DXVK is one of the libraries that Valve Proton uses to run Windows games under Linux/Steam Deck. Finally, someone smart enough to test it, thanks! 😄 A comparison video for all dx9/10/11 games with native vs DXVK would be really cool! There's also D3D12 for dx12->Vulkan, but unless intel made their worst on the DX12 driver, it shouldn't make an upwards difference.
Good to see Intel launching there own gpu And you reviewing it)) Thank you Am I the only one that waits for Intel to include older cards in their Xxes thingy?
Having another competitor in the market is nice, but the resizable bar requirement kills it for one of the more interesting use cases - dropping it into a somewhat older system (say, an OEM system with a relatively modest power supply and something like a GTX 1060 3GB or something equally bad) and getting a decent performance boost. If you're going to have to upgrade to something new enough to support resizable bar, you might as well spring a few more bucks for a lower end AMD card that works better on DX9/10/11 games and doesn't have any of the driver weirdness. Barring some massive driver improvements (and perhaps shipping DXVK with the driver set), I can't see the Arc cards being used very widely.
Let's just hope that prices will get competitive in Europe, currently in Germany the A770 is 419€ but not even available at this price, which really is a bummer.
Outside of performance terms, the aesthetics of the card are quite attractive, especially for people like me who are a bit tired of seeing RGB everywhere.
Yeah it looks great
Yeah rgb 🤮 not every component needs to be covered in it... ish. People who like it fine that's great but company's should make modular parts where there can be a rgb free version.
@@frizzlefry1921 I believe most modern cards don’t come in RGB anymore.
I don't need my pc to look like the vegas strip
RGB is okay as long as it's not forced cycling rainbow stobing effects, and with the option for static color or to turn it off completely, can't be mad at a feature that you can turn off. I always liked reference cards because of the maturity of their design while outside vendors usually cater to children with juvenile themes. I think this card looks nice, But next time around I hope they use more aluminum and less plastic and no double sided tape. Even with the negatives of this launch they surpassed all my expectations.
Despite not being a home run, I'm excited to see a third player in the GPU market. I have strong hopes that Intel will eventually bring us better GPUs in the future
Yeah I hope so
Yeah, we really need it. Nvidia is getting too full of themselves lately. We really need AMD and Intel to start making good cards so we have more options.
@@guyknightley3499 I mean, at the mid to low range AMD is actually outperforming Nvidia in the price-performace battle, even at the high end it is very competitive. That said, they need to improve their RT support and FSR 2.0, that's for sure. Hopefully 7000 series will bring that.
@@RandomGaminginHD you Brexit you
@@RandomGaminginHD Several large companies tried and failed miserably to claw their way into the GPU market after the Radeon/Geforce duopoly was established in the 2000s, Search for a review of the 'Volari Duo' to see how that went, SiS was a big semiconductor company back then. Given how vastly higher the bar is for compatibility and performance these days, I am actually impressed by Arc's out of the gate state. Drivers are rough but they show promise, intel just needs to Stick it through and they will be a slugging it out with Nvidia and AMD at the top in a few years no worries.
Thanks for actually testing DXVK on intel arc, something I don't think many if any other reviewers have bothered to do. I'd like to see more DXVK results also from you if possible on Arc.
I'm grateful that DXVK on Windows now has a purpose but it's also unfortunate it won't work on games with Anti-cheat and stuff like that...
@@GorujoCY2 True, but it isn't DXVK that causes the issues, it's the Anti-cheat DRM, get mad at that, not DXVK.
I would say DXVK is an absolute must for Arc in GTA4, as it does not natively support DX9 and emulates it. Suppose Intel's rational was because 99% of DX9 games are featherweights next to the fat cow that is GTA4. Even modded Oblivion or Crysis OG in DX9 mode [where the demanding settings are not available] are no where near the FPS crushing boulders that is GTA4.
@@anasevi9456 For GTA 4 DXVK is a must, it even runs bad on my Strix RX580 while with DXVK almost all the FPS loss and stuttering goes away, but it's also the devs fault, they updated the game and instead of actually making it good they never cared. The latest release was like 2020 not that long ago yet the game still got stuck to 32bits and the original same crap badly optimized coding...
@@GorujoCY2 How would that cause a problem with anti cheats? Linux users pretty much use it daily in multiplayer games and don't have much problems with it.
Thanks for including GTA IV and DXVK… more people should know about it!
I personally use DXVK for some time now but I think it would be very interesting for many of your subscribers too. Maybe you could do a dedicated video about DXVK and some games that benefit from it the most - it's fascinating technology but far too few people know about it at all.
Everyone gaming on Linux knows about it, maybe not Steam Deck users because it's under the hood. Glad it's available for Windows users too though!
i wonder if this will fix my issues with Wolfenstein. I have unplayable reloading times with Wolfenstein 2009 with my RX6600. This might possibly fix this.
DXVK does wonders on games that perform poorly on whatever the DirectX version they have, a good example is The Evil Within 2 which runs very poorly but DXVK really helps with performance.
@@austinnapier8233 Yep. Been using DXVK/proton for 5 years and as been a god send for gaming on linux.
Dedicated video about DXVK and some games that benefit from it the most would be great ! I never heard about it before.
Hope to see some benchmarks against the ARC-170. That thing must be struggling nowadays, considering it came out a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
I’ll look for one :)
that got me lol
nice one
These cards do have the potential to be Aggressive, Intel definitely need more Reconnaissance to get there..
Nice one lmao
it's good to see some more competition in the GPU market.
if these ARC GPUs had come out a few months earlier, I’d’ve picked one up. Instead I got my cheeks clapped raw by Nvidia and EVGA with an RTX 3070ti. (EVGA because my upgrade program would have cost me $500 to step up to a card that, at the time of my 90-day upgrade program expiry, was CHEAPER than the price I paid for my 3070ti).
@@LeftJoystick what card would you have gone with through the upgrade program?
Would be neat if it meant GPU prices would return to normalcy.
What do you mean? Intel HD has always been there
@@benedictjajo not in the dedicated gpu market.....
I think that with future driver updates, these cards will actually do really well, it's clear that they have the power to do 1440p, maybe even 4k, and for the price they are at, it might be a steal once the drivers improve
If it cannot run cyberpunk at 1080p on high at 60fps how the fuck do you expect it to run smooth in 4k? 💀💀💀 even at 1440p will probably grant you an unplayable game
Those are low demanding games or he used low/medium settings this is definetly not a 1440p card
@@promc2890 sorry mate but when is elden ring a low demanding game?
@@RealEclipsed it ran on my 5700G APU at 30 fps at 1440p, its NOT a high demanding game, it just had issues at launch
I would like to see more DXVK testing please. 🍻
Yeah for sure will do so soon
Thanks Steve. Big fan of the channel. I even got one of your Dave Silhouette shirts that I wear proudly. Keep up the awesome video content.
DXVK helps alot in gta 4 less stutters
@@RandomGaminginHD try dxvk-async too
Thought of buying one just for testing around but the pricing in € isn't very appealing. Thank you for testing on a normal PC, as always :)
This is a very good review of the products, thank you as always. I found this review more to the point, and yet more detailed than some of the reviews from the large big channels. I say that, keeping in mind this channel is not exactly a small channel anymore lol
Thanks for watching :)
I got the Arc A770 on backorder. I def intend to follow up with it with regards to drivers. I'm with you in that I too find it fascinating. Really hope Intel keeps down this path and improves.
can be unlucky that intel wont folow up these gpu at all and say nah "we tryed lets skip this iidea"
CSGO has a vulkan renderer that can be enabled via adding -vulkan as a launch command. It's mostly there for Linux but worth trying with Arc. Unfortunately I haven't seen any reviewers benchmark with this option yet but I figure I'll make mention of it.
i think that launch option works ONLY on Linux
@@BanDit49_ It's using DXVK to do it, there might be another way to mod DXVK into CSGO. Or you could just switch install Linux.
@@BanDit49_ Wrong. Been using -vulkan for playing Dota 2 on Windows for a while.
@@huckleberryjam4975 DOTA 2 has official Vulkan API compared to CS:GO.
@@BanDit49_ only Linux works.
I’d love to see this card succeed, but the best bit about getting a new card is playing 10 year old games with everything at ultra at a mega high FPS.
DXVK is a game changer for old games! Hope you make more content about it!
More videos regarding Intel ARC A750 graphic card would be appreciated. Definitely I would like to see reviewers testing the performance of this graphic card with 10th gen Intel chipset (eg. i3 10100 & i5 10400F) given that 10th gen Intel is the minimum requirement for ARC graphic card series.
Arc sounds loke its garbge
Seeing a dxvk comparison was quite interesting. Makes me wonder if the overall gaming experience might actually be better with this hardware under GNU / Linux rather than Windows at this point in time. It's a shame there aren't all that many people outside of phoronix posting GNU / Linux benchmarks for Arc hardware.
Not just Arc hardware ... youtube is lacking linux benchmarks of pretty much any interesting hardware, really.
either this, or the almighty algorithm just hides those videos from me.
Are the new "open source" nvidia drivers better than their proprietary crap and do the new drivers make VR work again on linux? - who knows?
How well does linux cope with intel's E+P core bullshit ? - who cares?
ARM is doing that kind of stuff for ages and linux runs just fine there sooooo it'll be fine on intel - no need to test it or anything - right?
@@KenjiUmino TH-cam is lacking Linux benchmarks probably because nobody gives a shit about Linux lol.
I mean , for a first gen product, it is pretty decent it seems to me. Sure, the drivers need to be tuned further, but that is completely understandable.
It's going to be interesting to see how the drivers on these improve over time and how well they age. I personally don't think I'll be buying an ARC GPU as my next upgrade, but it's nice to see some competition in the GPU market, maybe in a few months time the drivers and optimizations would've gotten better making it a little more usable. For the price though, this is a very good GPU.
Since I just bought an RX 6800, I probably won't need to upgrade, but when I do, it'll be nice to know that Intel will be an option in 6-8 years.
When the next drivers?
Man I've been trying to get an Intel GPU. Its been on backorder since the 12th. Its surprising to see someone else who actually has one.
They're seemingly far more scarce than the 30 and 6000 series at launch.
You should try the dxvk tweak on more games, I do feel like it is an underrated card and if it just got better driver updates it would be much better.
As a linux gamer, I'd love to see more dxvk related videos since that would help me choose which gpu to buy next. I'd love to have competition in gpu space and if dxvk performance is solid across the board and maybe vkd3d as well(once some driver related issues are fixed), the answer will be clear.
I've already ordered my A770 16Gb. Am I foolish, possibly but I think it's great to have another player in the market. I'm lucky to have a 3080 and 2060 Super as my main cards, but the Arc GPU's offer something a little different. I'm glad they've taken the view of supporting modern and upcoming games first and then working their way backwards. Design is brilliant, I hope it picks up a bit of a following if only to keep the other 2 honest, but they have a long road ahead with the drivers.
you are no folish but lucky and your probarly from us since you manage to buy one congrats to you, i want to buy one becasue it afordable but not yet to see anywhere in eu 6 months delay :( i stop beeing hyped for new things releesing, i know i wont get before 2 years laiter anyways :D
@@frallorfrallor3410 Nope I'm in the UK but there was only one reseller (ebuyer). We'll see how it goes, early days.
How did it go? Got my A750 today and I'm pretty disappointed
Dont forget about the AV1 decoding, that is its main feature, buy it as 2nd GPU, if needed, and use it to stream!
Yeah it's fantastic and efficient, not sure that you can use it on Twitch or anything yet so give it some time, Maybe TH-cam you can but I see most streamers prefer twitch or something
*encoding, that's what's special to Arc. Decoding exists on RDNA2 as well, maybe also Ampere.
dosnt nvidia and rx 7000 already got av1 :D
It's worth mentioning, that drivers are open source (excluding firmware). So we can see a huge performance boost in upcoming months, especially for Linux. Also we won't be stuck in drivers hell, like it is with Nvidia now.
Awesome :)
The Linux driver is open source. The Windows one is not, and that's where most people will be using these cards. Improvements in the Linux driver also don't necessarily translate into the Windows one. AMD's OpenGL performance on Windows was woeful on Windows until recently when they fixed it, but it's been fine for years on Linux.
@@CaptainKenway Sorry for misunderstanding, english isn't my first language. What I meant was, that Intel Arc may be a revolution, when it comes to choosing a GPU on Linux. I hope, because Nvidia with Wayland drives many people mad :D
Driver maturity is what's going to push these from simply acceptable, to outstanding for the price.
Only person that pointed out graphical glitches, only review that wasn't sponsored by intel
Those were interesting results, thanks for buying and reviewing the A750. I love tech enough that I would love to mess with one myself but my wallet is not in accord with my tech aspirations.. lol 🤷♂
Apart from the drivers needing a bit of work this seems like a promising competitor against AMD or NVIDIA. Soon the ARC cards or anything intel releases afterwards will be a solid choice for gamers.
I wonder how the card will do under Linux. Because anything direct X related, runs through vulkan, making dx11 and dx9 games may actually run much better than on windows.
Only Kernel version 6 which sucks to be honest.
the A380 did pretty well according to Phoronix's tests, just needs more optimisations - especially with openGL
@@flintfrommother3gaming Most rolling / semi-rolling distributions should have 6.0 pretty soon, it really isn't all that much of an issue unless you use a distribution with a fixed release cadence.
I'd also be curious to see how the galliumnine state tracker with iris does compared to whatever is being done with dx9 on the windows driver.
@@montagyuu5163 you can certainly install a later Linux kernel into any distro. Well, maybe you can't but it is a fairly trivial thing to do regardless. The ARC needs the git dev version of MESA to work too.
I hope reviewers come back to these cards every few months to see how (if) things are improving on the driver front.
Problem is they need people to buy them first… otherwise why invest a lot of resources into a product that is flopping. Kind of a catch 22.
Yeah they're all sold out everywhere
@@mikerzisu9508 poeple are buying them actually . dosn't it makes you wonder why it's sold out almost everywhere
I've ordered an A770 16GB from Ebuyer also btw :) Excited for some tinkering!
It is nice to see Intel try it out on the Market. I mean AMD and Nvidia rules the roost and even smaller "2d" GPU makers have stopped their own R&D and use GCN cores these days.
So, Intel with its huge install base of IGP's has SOME knowledge!
Wait seriously amd is licensing out gcn? Or are you talking their semi custom business
@@mattBLACKpunk he probably refers to Matrox. They currently have Nvidia cards with modified BIOS, but a few years ago used modified AMD Chips. As in they were not Standard GPUs with only different Software but much more custom.
@@timweber4318 cool, I def didn't know that!
@@mattBLACKpunk The Matrox cards had better drivers than the AMD cards it was based off amusingly, by some distance. They should have got Matrox to make drivers for them.
@@timweber4318 Yup on this channel a matrox cards get reviewed that is not going to run AMD drivers but has GCN cores and is by the creator of this channel, very stable..
the very fact you used dxvk makes you the best reviewer of the gpu i am proud you have come so far .. also add guild wars 2 to the bench it's very heavy game more so then most titles
Their performance is very late 90s early 00s, in the sense of only being good in some games and poor in others. So the box is fitting! A good and informative video as always Sir!
yeah... pretty disappointed with my A750 so far. Tried to test it with Arkham Knight and the game won't launch at all. Tried it with Resident Evil 2 Remake and it runs at a pretty solid 120fps, but with Elden Ring the performance might be worse than my old 1060
You should definitely do a video on DXVK. It's right up your alley.
Would be interesting to try older games on A750/A770, like earlier DX11, DX10, DX9 or even older
Why would that be interesting, there is no driver support, they will run like garbage if at all
@@rx10 it's basically emulation so it's possible that some games run worse than native but are still playable.
They won't run well at all cause they don't have driver support and I doubt intel would go back and give support to all them old titles except some very popular ones. But for future dx12 titles and going forward I think arc would be pretty great.
dont even bother its pretty bad
Yeah. Especially with DXVK. Maybe even try DX12 games with VKD3D
Looking forward to the yearly check in!
It will be big. The fundamentals are there. The prices are right. Now people can use them and give feedback. It can only get better.
being an early adopter am I right, at least Intel isn't charging the tax so that's something
the price is low because they know they offer nothing on a very bad market after covid and criptocrash
remember that those people are righ now are beta testers because intel is like that, you are paying for the privilege of being a beta tester
I am SO EXCITED for this video! Thanks RGIHD!
I really wish Intel all the best with GPU’s and i feel they will get better with time.
hopefully Intel doesn't decide on flopping in their GPU Division and also hopefully has enough GPUs on Gamer's hands to improve off of
if they don't cancel the project like the did so many times in the past when they see how hard is to succeed on a market and then run away in panic, just look at optane
interesting point of view, yeah, i agree, really hope in the future they get better optimization and smooth interaction with software-drivers.
I wonder if the best scenario for ARC GPUs right now is to use the card under Linux with Proton and use DXVK with all games. Might be interesting to see.
DXVK for Windows users if you want to see the improvement and your game doesn't have an Anti-cheat or some sort that prevents modification
Linux users aren't going to have to worry about anything since all games Proton or not run in Vulkan
07:16 lol btw great video brother 👍
I would like to see how the pre DX9 games play, such as GTA 3, Rainbow Six 1, Frogger, NFS3, Half-Life, etc. I have not seen any videos or benchmarks on them
that is because intel did not made dx9 drivers, they run on a emulation sort of mode to run on dx11, as you saw on the gta 4, it runs like garbage
they never had support for that and you can see it, they went for dx11/12 and vulkan
tbh, only few games of that era are still relevant, but shows how intel had to focus effort on just part of the games, and proves that their drivers leave everything to be desired
Half Life 2 runs better than CSGO in Linus Tech Tips testing
@@arch1107 yes such old games have very little relevance but many GOG games still use the old renderers. Plus other Gog games have a DirectX9 transformation layer and I am curious about how it performs, then there is nGlide
cant wait too see this get better and take over the market, i really want one
Short answer is no, get a 6600 or 6600xt and enjoy 1080p/1440p for $280 new
Yeah much better option for now
@@RandomGaminginHD Just finishing up the video now and am even more convinced that right now is the best time to build or buy a new competitive 1080p system on both the new and used market. The 12400f/6600xt build if done smartly with a 1tb nvme can easily be done new for $600 right now. Used I can build a 5600X/3060ti system for the same price or $700 for a 3070 build…crazy to think I was fighting daily to buy $750 ftw3 3060ti’s to sell at $800 (unopened)
@@RandomGaminginHD Hey man, I don’t really know how much it is to ship something across the pond, but I have a Open box Sliger 560 and new Seasonic focus 500w for $110 obo. Normally I wouldn’t try to sell anything like this, but I figure if I have to give up the case it would be rad to have purchased the Antec Skeleton that Tech Yes City showed for $45 (it was the next city to mine randomly) and immortalize my favorite sandwich case thus far!
Nice review. It didnt try to talk me out of buying one. Im just going to wait a few more weeks before i make a decision on which brand i buy
I am going to be getting an A770 16GB for my personal collection, to see how it ages and for its encoder. It will make an intereting toy.
Yeah definitely. An ideal enthusiasts card
I agree. These are probably the only GPUs ever that will get better, not worse, over time. And yes, that DXVK stuff is MAGIC. Is that available for other games? I'd love to hear more about that.
DXVK works with any DirectX 9, 10, and 11 game. I use it for a lot of my library since it can actually help with performance depending on the title.
I doubt Intel is going to invest any effort improving the performance with older APIs. That's the past.
@@1pcfred DX9 is still used in some very popular games. Team Fortress 2 and CS:GO are still played by millions and they exclusively use DX9. Also, a lot of people still play older games. The idea of not wanting to play or support a game just because it's old is baffling to me.
lynux users have been using it for years. Just works.
@@freshroyaloficecapzone2154 exclusively is an interesting take seeing as I've been playing CSGO with OpenGL for the past 6 years and they just released Vulkan support.
I have the A770... it's a mess. For some games its great. When it's bad. It's BAD. Random crashes, bad frame pacing, and yes, it cries like a baby under load. That's OK with me though. I expected it to be miserable.
First person I’ve found that posted apex content, thank you so much man!
Thanks for watching :)
csgo automatically caps fps nowadays for all gpus.
Most of my nvidia gpus have been capped to 400 fps, whereas amd gpus previously have been capped at much lower, and needed to always manually uncap
Damn this is an unexpected upload time. Thanks anyway, Steve!
this still contributes to real time documentation of benchmarks for the gpu, thanks
Great content! Sadly Intel graphic cards not available in Germany yet...
Thanks for this video. You vids are so relaxing to watch.
I'm just here to comment I want you to make a dedicated DXVK video
Great video though as always
Can you make a video about DXVK? That would be delightful!
Compared to the greedy GPU manufacturers around. I am going for this card for now!
Finally someone testing DXVK on it! Thank you! Can you please test some DX11 games with DXVK as well?
Yeah sure :)
@@RandomGaminginHD You should also try dxvk-async as it is supposed to eleminate more compiling stutter. I am very curius if it really does improve performance in non-optimized games. If yes, I wonder why Intel is not officially using this. It would alleviate most of their problems until they optimize their driver for all games.
Ooo an arc. Prefect card for this channel
Thanks for the detailed testing, I'll be looking forward to seeing what else you find out about this card in the future. I hope Intel can pull it together and finally inject some much needed competition into the space.
nice. ive been waiting for you to get ahold of one of these
I think these cards look great, I prefer the A770 with the subtle lighting around the fans, but really like the clean minimalist look that they have going on. Performance seems pretty good too, definitely usable. Im still using my trusty 1080ti till I can afford to upgrade my power supply and gpu. Appreciate all the videos and your humour!
GJ doing DXVK - no one else is pushing that angle and it shows some serious uplift.
🤔Like you said, its up to them to fix a lot of things but it truly is their first effort at doing discrete. I was not expecting a flawless launch and the RT is good/media engine is good. I look forward to seeing what they do in the next 8 months or so.
The lack of proper support for older games is a complete deal breaker IMO - having access to a massive library of older games that can look and run their best years later on modern hardware is my #1 favourite thing about the PC platform - They really need to address this
That's the price you pay for existing in a closed source ecosystem. Your binary code base goes out of date. It's just dumb. You're willfully turning your computer into a planned obsolescence appliance. Commercial developers are laughing all the way to the bank at your expense too. Congratulations!
I'm excited for the ARC GPUs. I'm fully planning on picking up an A770. It won't really be an upgrade compared to my 1070ti, but I am excited to play around with them
please make an XeSS deep dive and compare it to the fsr/dlss counterpart and how it performs on non intel cards vs ARK ones
FINALLY someone tested ARC with DXVK! I searched long and far for this! It's awesome for Linux Users like me or people who like to tweak stuff!
That's a pretty impressive gpu for the price! I hope we get a LP version of that. It's obviously not gonna have the exact same performance, but it would be a pretty good budget option.
its very expencive if it dosnt work at all
I’d like to know where you got an Arc Card 😂, I’ve been searching for one since “launch day”, nothing. Great review(s) by the way, keep them up!
Radeon still beats Arc on price to performance. Which is probably why Intel didn't mention AMD at all in their presser. Seems like DXVK fixes a lot of its issues, but unfortunately that relegates the card to hobbyists, since not a ton of people know about it. I haven't seen many videos exploring Linux performance. Proton includes DXVK by default with the game download. Depending on the situation with the MESA drivers, I wonder if Linux might actually be the best use case for Arc.
impressive how good the ray tracing performance is compared to RDNA 2 cards
Intel should put DXVK or something similar into their drivers (if it's possible) for DX9 games. They said that they won't be working on native DX9 support, so that's better than relying on the Windows' DX9 emulation.
I bought an A750 and have been very happy with it. The encoding quality and speed is better than my 3090... For gaming I obviously use the 3090, but that cost me $1600. I've tested it out for gaming though, and have enjoyed it, the performance was around 3060-3060 Ti levels and I only had one bug in my first week of use.
that's insane. Intel did a smart move with the encoding
This is looking to be a great card long term for encoding fans too. Thank you so much for testing DXVK!!
I absolutely love these designs. Intel hit it out of the park when it comes to giving you a lot for what you’re paying; an Av1 encoder, plentiful vram, and really nice sleek designs. Hopefully once the drivers improve, early adopters will have a cheaper, more powerful card than a lot of the competition (I’d also love to see these cards in white, their clean aesthetic would work great in an all white build)
interesting to see a review of this GPU
I love Intel is back in the GPU market. I still have one 740 AGP in my collection.
Regarding this new ARC models, as showin in some reviews, my main dislike is the unnecesary mechanical complexity. Disassembling these cards to clean the fans is a nightmare, and the extra cost added completely unnecessary, imho.
Regading drivers, I am confidents things are going to improve significantly, but you cannot fix afterwards hardware choices.
I wish Intel the best in this front. Fair competition is very welcomed and great news for everyone.
i was waiting for a review more like yours, to see if i wanted an arc gpu or not. i have a laptop i can play games on if the arc gpu doesnt work well for whatever reason, so i think i may get one now. Thanks for making the review!
Definitely interested in you testing DXVK for lower end cards.
I think Saints Row 2 also could use that, otherwise GTA IV must be run with it for no stuttering.
Stylish card and exciting to see a third player in the graphics market. Hopefully Intel will be in it for a long haul.
@@BriFiConnections Maybe that's it, only the bare essentials no unnecessary frills.
I've bought one too, I not installed it yet though. However first impressions are excellent everything about it from the packaging to the weight and build give a premium feel.
Yeah definitely.
@@RandomGaminginHD how are you getting on with yours? I've been running mine for a couple of days in ff14 and a couple of other games and so far it's Been rock solid. Only negative I have to say is it uses 30-40 more Watts than my 6700 non xt
It's kind of fun to use DXVK to translate API and not impact it negatively, but boost it a lot on ARC. "I just wonder how it would work better on other games." It shows proof that ARC on Linux is something that could work well. I wonder if there is a way to run DXVK on Windows.
A couple of reviews said having a CPU was Resizable Bar enabled was essential for the new intel graphics cards. Can you do a quick video highlighting the issue with an older cpu? I’m sure a few people may get the card with an older cpu and be performance limited.
That thing looks clean with the all black color🔥
Yes, test more games using and explaining how to use vulkan like you did in gta 4.
Cyberpunk has a bug related to presets, manually change settings to see if you spot any differences.
Cool, I get mine Tuesday! 🎉
I'm looking forward to get my free A750 from Scavenger Hunt, I'm still waiting for it since April :D
Hope it performs well in OpenCL compute!
Thank you for actually reviewing the card, instead of the usual TH-cam tech suspects whining about a benchmark number. Those numbers tell us what they tell us, but at the end of the day, those numbers mean jackshit.
I also appreciate your remark about how in a few years this card will probably be looked at more fondly, due to early ARC drivers. I'm going to keep those usual tech suspects in mind 5 years from now and see if they sing a different tune. I assure you, one of them will have the gall to say, "I never thought the A750 was bad!" Right, right.
I didn't even know DXVK is a thing, please test more games that have it, it could be a life saver for those intel cards
i am early A770 LE adopter and absolutely no regret RT handles better than it´s competitors on pair with pure rasterization power and of course 16 VRAM with 258 memory bit bus nicely done!
DXVK is one of the libraries that Valve Proton uses to run Windows games under Linux/Steam Deck. Finally, someone smart enough to test it, thanks! 😄
A comparison video for all dx9/10/11 games with native vs DXVK would be really cool!
There's also D3D12 for dx12->Vulkan, but unless intel made their worst on the DX12 driver, it shouldn't make an upwards difference.
Good to see Intel launching there own gpu
And you reviewing it))
Thank you
Am I the only one that waits for Intel to include older cards in their Xxes thingy?
Having another competitor in the market is nice, but the resizable bar requirement kills it for one of the more interesting use cases - dropping it into a somewhat older system (say, an OEM system with a relatively modest power supply and something like a GTX 1060 3GB or something equally bad) and getting a decent performance boost. If you're going to have to upgrade to something new enough to support resizable bar, you might as well spring a few more bucks for a lower end AMD card that works better on DX9/10/11 games and doesn't have any of the driver weirdness. Barring some massive driver improvements (and perhaps shipping DXVK with the driver set), I can't see the Arc cards being used very widely.
dxvk arc sounds like fun! :D
Bit of a shame only Ebuyer are stocking ARC in the UK.
Let's just hope that prices will get competitive in Europe, currently in Germany the A770 is 419€ but not even available at this price, which really is a bummer.