Imho, ddo > nw. Ddo's dungeons have puzzles, traps, platforming, swimming amd verticality. Neverwinter feels likes a flat looter-brawler/looter-shooter set in The Forgotten Realms.
Build diversity, multiclassing, no Pay to win, no metas, dungeon master narration, hirelings system huuuuge variety of skills and spells on later on levels for every class. Tonns of various support items like scrolls, potions and wands. Ohh my god, DDO is a universe. Neverwinter is just an average MMO in DnD setting with not even a single DnD system used ingame.
@@RuneRealmRPG P2W is competitionary reference of paying to dominate, or achieve a victory against someone. What or who you win over in DDO? Then, how XP potion can be P2W in any MMORPG? Imagine you capped fast in WoW. What wictory over other players did you achieve?
I've never seen any other game like ddo, the sense of adventure is very present. Each quest has its story and usually contains way more than just the main objective. You are free to do any quests to lvl up and there is so many quest that even after me playing for many years there are still some i have never done. Also you cam create very unique characters, no two characters created will be the same with race trees, enhancement trees, universal trees feats, and the possibility to take levels of a different class than the original one make it so creating any character you please is possible. It sure is a nice change from games where a different player with the same class will do exactly the same thing you do. There is also a lot of difficulty settings, and it provides for a great challenge if you want it. With casual, normal, hard, elite and reaper has actually 10 difficulties from Reaper 1 to reaper 10. It provides a big challenge even for veterans. Even though much of the game is behind a pay wall they have recently started giving out codes for 95ish% of the content for free. Much of the locked content is unlockable by playing and you earn good amout of premium money by playing aswell so you can actually unlock everything for free. The community is also very kind and welcoming.
Nice to see an unbiased comparison and breakdown. The reason the Neverwinter quest seems disjointed is because more than half of the original quest line has been removed. Even though you're forced to reach maximum level before you can do any new content, the leveling up quests are all watered down monotonous railroad experiences that I can only assume dissuade any new players from experiencing the full game.
Surely there's a better solution for the levelling! I think players deserve better than that. Especially when they provide such a nice combat control scheme.
Yeah, the old, pre-quest leveling system was better. In fact, Cryptic could rewind the game to Mod 12, and it would be way more fun than it is now. The only thing modern NW has going for it is combat. Everything else serves to drive you into the infinitely repetitive end-game, group content where you grind to have the exact same build as everybody else. Fun in the very short-term, but nothing to put down virtual roots for.
Also... DDO is hosting their "Hardcore" season. They have a server that is perma-death, with rewards that are accessible from ones home server. Some "classic D&D players may be interested in such a thing, as it is synergetic with tabletop D&D. These seasons only last a few months before going away.
I just gave Neverwinter a good bash last night.. and yeah I've gotta agree with you 100%.. The combat feels good, but there's no challange at all.. no group content at all and I'm level 8.. just following the golden line with no sense of adventure.. I might give D&Do a go.. I want a classic WoW experience with the exploration/slower combat/rewarding progression.. Just very hard to find.
DDO has one of the slowest reward progressions overall because of the reincarnation system Even if you hit max level, you can do that 3 times per race and class and iconic and now special trees and you will keep getting stronger each time, and then there is end game reaper content on top of that (so there's variety as well).
Dungeons & Dragons universe is notorious for low level characters being very weak, very slow and very squishy. That translates into DDO just the same. You MUST get a DDO character to higher level before it starts to get really fun. It gets exceptional after 20 when your character has access to all their feats/spells/abilities. But DDO does one better by offering forever upgrades to your character every time you get to 20 and CHOOSE to start again at lv 1. The "Resurrection" mechanic was a brilliant addition. You CAN go all the way into Epics and Legendary content. Or you can go through the heroic again, but a wee bit more powerful than the last pass. And that continues... Players always have a choice. So so many cool choices all through the game.
This is honestly the reason DDO has kept me playing for 15+ years.. Reincarnating and being able to remake your character basically infinite number of ways adds so much replay value to this game. Plus it makes content at all levels still relevant which is genius move from a design standpoint
i actually fired up DDO today after not playing for oh a decade or more. and it was fun, even if the graphics are outdated, i felt adventure. it felt good.
DDO is more true to the D&D experience, whereas Neverwinter provides a neat themed arcade experience. That is fine - but the immersion in DDO is stronger and the experience way more memorable. Well you can't compare Coq au vin with with a bucket of hot wings now can you. Both have merit 😅
Yep. Neverwinter is a WoW-lite clone masquerading as "D&D" (even with its VERRRRRY loosely based 4th edition rules... which is a terrible ruleset to begin with). DDO is older, with outdated UI and graphics... but underneath is the closest you'll get to Dungeons & Dragons experience as a MMORPG as you can get.
Great video! I hope you continue with DDO, if you appreciate it at the low level free content then im sure you will love some of the newer stuff too. And definitely check out some grouping! The community is very welcoming and friendly
Been playing NW for almost 5 years, it has changed a lot during the years. When i first started playing loads of story, but also grindy campaigns & quests. Which meant it would take 9-12 months to get to do endgame stuff. Now they changed it & no one bothers with the story. It's all about getting your character to level 20 which you can do in 12-36 hours. Joining ques as fast as possible, to get AD, in order to buy higher il gear, in order to do more challenging content. So as much as i really like the combat aspect in NW, truth is there's a lot of ppl with high il gear, knowing f all about story, mechanics, or knowledge of best gear choices for their class etc. I play other games for story/questing experiences, not NW. 10th year anniversary coming up for NW, gonna be hanging around for that & mainly because of friends i've made in the game throughout the years ). Nice video, might give D&D a go )
level 20 in 12-36 hours?? In less than 36 hours you can reach level 60/65 quickly, always going on maps that are 5 levels above you, and there are crystal globes spread across the maps that give a lot of xp initially!
Great video! The character and build depth in DDO grows so much as you level. The lack of low level options lets you wade into the complexity at your own pace.
so the take away I'm getting from the video is that D&D Online seems to be more inline with the tabletop game with how exp works and the puzzles and all that stuff, kind of, but also Neverwinter seems to as well with the milestone based experience gain. But D&D Online seems more "fun" as video game. What I'm saying is that I know which game I think is better
Yes this is pretty much it. They're both fine in their own ways and it largely depends on what you want to get out of the game. Both of these are fairly respectable single player experiences so far too.
@@PeteSmells Also are you playing in normal or casual? ( ddo) the game seems quite easy. its a shame that new f2p players are forced to play in normal since its not that difficult.
@@Dulkh4n While that may be true, i think its kind of nice to go through your first playthrough on normal/hard. It makes learning the quests a lot less punishing, plus the XP is still more than enough on a first life character. Getting 1 shot by every single trap on Elite+ may not be what a brand new player wants lol
ddo is MUCH better! It reminds more of baldurs gate or neverwinter NIGHTS, with it's asymmetrical play and focus on character diversity and ADVENTURE. With it's awesome spellbooks for casters f.ex. - i honestly absolutely hated that a wizard in nwn knows like a handful of spells, all of which you will use, basically making another wizzy completely same as you, considering that you also get same looking gear at start, you will see duplicates of you runnin around for quite a while. nwn is also very narrow and linear, all from combat to questing, to even rewards...as f.ex. you always get same precious gem to pour into power for your gear, it's incredibly boring to get some 0.01% to your spell damage each time and also unnecesarily grindy. Party experience is absolutely atrocious in nwn, as mentioned you get to party sooooo late in the game, there are only a handful instances, and all you will get is a bunch of rushers who jump on mount (inside instance) rush towards a bunch of mobs or miniboss, nuke them, jump back on mount and rush again...because you need to do the instance for like 50 times. Makes you feel absolutely insignificant, your 5 cents of dps make no difference, as basically the few op players could tackle the instance 2-3 players or so...and what a BLAST i had in ddo with party experience lately: we were 3 - an unarmed combat paladin, and two wizards (who were absolutely different, one was an eldritch knight wearing armor and going melee, while using few buffing spells, and i was a classical robe wearing glass cannon wiz shooting spells) and everyone was indispencible, well placed and vital, be it paladin taking aggro or me bombarding from behind, we went together, at normal pace, exploring and fighting and dying together like it's supposed to be. Narration wise ddo is also much better - it feels as d&d game, even thou it's not placed at Sword Coast, while nwn sorta uses the setting as a bait of sorts, like constantly showing popular characters from true d&d games, in particular nwn1, like "Hey look, it's Linu!" or "Hey look, it's Halaster!" while not having anything in common with bg or nwn, feels very shallow
On PlayStation the issue with Neverwinter is that more than 2/3rds of the end game content is impossible to do because you can't get a team, the community is the worst community you will ever play with. It is 100% pay to win or even to play because you have to use scrolls to get through the content and are expected too. If you do get lucky to get into one dungeon you will be kicked on first wipe even if it isn't your fault because you are the odd man out, sometimes they will even kick you at the end to replace you with their friends after you spent 30 mins and scrolls just to get to that point with no repercussions. The game is never about just having fun but 24/7 farming, and its a small community and unless you are of the female gender you are not welcome with open arms to these friends group and they will only play with their friend group even if you in their clan. This is every clan not just one of them, and you will have to have perfect builds and even then you can't get into a group even if you know exactly what you are doing.
I tried Neverwinter.. I hated it... it wasn't fun.... .. ... after about a 18 month period I figured I would give it another try... found I had an absolute shit-ton of boxes & points they had just given me... spent a day turning it all in for among other things.. a Bullet mount and ton of crafting stuff... still wasnt fun even after some item raised me to like level 70 or some.. and because I didnt have any gear no matter where I went at my level I got torn to fucking pieces... never looked back.. .. that was about 5 years ago.. .. DDO is the shiznit, never been happier, been playing since 2012
If you are going to play ddo, then you really need to wait to get to level 20 for heroic. Things get a lot more difficult and most long time players won't have time for you.
The fun part of this, is in (when playing) choosing how you would like to play the game (for example, focusing on one enemy at long range or many enemies at close range), and from here you can already choose the class that best suits you. to the way you play, each class is a different ddo game (even if it's the same game, it feels like many, and you want to try them all), to kill many at once, the best ones are the spell casters.
DDO hands down is the most diverse game with multiple build options. Been playing since 2010. I gave NW a go a number of years ago but it just didn't give me the experience that I was looking for.
Kinda same. Playing DDO since around 2009, gave NW 2 attemps.. NW is flashy. Action packed. And hollow. DDO is like my tabletop adventure came alive in PC game.
worlds apart: You mean 3.5DDO Rules vs 5.0 rules that NWW is apparently based on. I've never played anything beyond NWN1 & 2 (when Persistence Worlds and Roleplay PWs was a thing online back in the early 2000s) however it's almost impossible to RP on DDO, it's too fast paced for that... that being said, I still play DDO to this day, with the constant worry that eventually, it will end in some manner... :/
Ive played ddo since launch, and neverwinter for a couole of years when i had a ps4.... Neverwinter looks great, but the mechanics and character building in ddo allow you to more than forgive what it lacks in graphical power. In some of the newer content (from the MOTU onwards), some of the content far outshines some of the older eberon stuff. The underdark looks amazing
Fair assessment, hope you do find some enjoyable play in ddo. I forgot how fun this game was. I played it shortly, 2weeks or so, after launch in 2004 0r something. I liked it then, and while I wish it was as updated as baulder's gate graphically, I wish balders gate 3, was as team and action orientated as ddo. Just some comments for the algorithm. G9od luck.
I refuse to play NW for the mere fact that ATARI first supported D& D online but then left them high and dry to go to NW/ sour taste in my mouth and will never again support a Atari game
I love DDO, i have been subscribed since the launch in 2006, but i don't have any real experience with anything else online, other than MWO, really. It is the only game i still play with any frequency these days. My son, who was a toddler when it came out, joined our group a handful of years ago 😉 The four of us get together a couple of times a week and I run a bit of solo content. Neverwinter hasn't ever really appealed to me and seeing a bit about how it works doesn't make me anymore enthusiastic.
I recorded that footage some months ago, but I think it's only good for like 7 shots before it drains all mana or whatever the equivalent is? I'm quite likely to play more so I'll investigate. There's a very good chance I just missed something because, well, I am pretty stupid.
@@PeteSmells its a pasive stance you only activate it once, and all your attack have the fire dmg added, its what is called, an Imbue, and you can raise the amount of dices with enhancements and equipment
I just got to level 20 on Neverwinter, was playing both at the same time for a bit but I wanted to get over with the "hit level cap tutorial" You said you don't like MMOs, me neither. The whole Neverwinter experience is exactly why I hate MMOs, I went from trying to read quest text to just spamming 1 and standing still in boring boss easy fights. By Steam reviews Neverwinter is meant to be the better game and It probably is, but man I have enjoyed DDO so much more, I'm only up to like lvl 5 there which is after Korthos. I'll probably continue Neverwinter off and on just to "honestly dislike it" or "prove my judgement that I won't like it no matter how far I get" but DDO despite the bad score it has, it feels way closer to a fun RPG experience (Emphasis on "closer", if it was singleplayer it'd be awful, even tho I play it solo the appeal is ofc the MMO bit) the only thing Neverwinter I like more is that you start in the Forgotten Realms meanwhile in DDO you have to earn a bunch of store currency coins or pay $ to move to FR
I can agree as a veteran Neverwinter player. Its more about the combat. Making builds, go over the stats. Reaching lvl 20 is not the goal. Its just when things starts to open up. You have campaigns with storys and adventures. Also some Nice dungeoun and group content. Its a system to it. Neverwinter is a really exiting game. Problem is you can buy yourself up. But endgame gear you need play to get. But you can enter the new dung today. If wallet is big enough. Thats a bit downside. And upside for some
Hi. I have more than 10.000 hours logged on both games. I'm active on both. Considering everything - two elements that the player has to consider. -The timezone that you are going to play. In NWO, this implies finding an alliance in the same timezone to run content with you. In DDO, you need to see what server is more active for your timezone. -DDO is mostly based on Eberon (you can go to forgotten realms). This means that it is a bigger game. -NWO is only based on Forgotten Realms with the only exception being Barovia (which DDO also have). -DDO you can change your race and your class via a system of resurrections. -NWO you are stuck with your class. However most classes can be dps/healer, tank/healer, dps/tank or only dps.
@@PeteSmells It's our own hamster wheel,, but is a fun one, you get to play with all clases and races so and you are not stuck with any of them, leveling up is not that hard once you get a couple of lives, and make you getting low level items fun too, because you are going to usem them when you reincarnate.
@@PeteSmells Just to be clear (because many, many people typo this) it's actually the 'reincarnation' system. You reach certain level milestones, and you can reincarnate and you can rebuild your character as a new race/class from level 1, while gaining a minor power boost based on what you've been in past lives. It's a super fun way to try out all the options in the game without having to give up your attachment to 1 character.
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Imho, ddo > nw. Ddo's dungeons have puzzles, traps, platforming, swimming amd verticality. Neverwinter feels likes a flat looter-brawler/looter-shooter set in The Forgotten Realms.
I'm totally in agreement with this
Build diversity, multiclassing, no Pay to win, no metas, dungeon master narration, hirelings system huuuuge variety of skills and spells on later on levels for every class. Tonns of various support items like scrolls, potions and wands. Ohh my god, DDO is a universe. Neverwinter is just an average MMO in DnD setting with not even a single DnD system used ingame.
@@okamihikuro1401 DDO sells XP boost and and move faster for money isn't dat p2w? lol?
@@RuneRealmRPG P2W is competitionary reference of paying to dominate, or achieve a victory against someone.
What or who you win over in DDO?
Then, how XP potion can be P2W in any MMORPG? Imagine you capped fast in WoW. What wictory over other players did you achieve?
@@okamihikuro1401 you would be able to wear better gear and beat someone in pvp who started at the same time as you without the xp boost.
I've never seen any other game like ddo, the sense of adventure is very present. Each quest has its story and usually contains way more than just the main objective. You are free to do any quests to lvl up and there is so many quest that even after me playing for many years there are still some i have never done. Also you cam create very unique characters, no two characters created will be the same with race trees, enhancement trees, universal trees feats, and the possibility to take levels of a different class than the original one make it so creating any character you please is possible. It sure is a nice change from games where a different player with the same class will do exactly the same thing you do. There is also a lot of difficulty settings, and it provides for a great challenge if you want it. With casual, normal, hard, elite and reaper has actually 10 difficulties from Reaper 1 to reaper 10. It provides a big challenge even for veterans. Even though much of the game is behind a pay wall they have recently started giving out codes for 95ish% of the content for free. Much of the locked content is unlockable by playing and you earn good amout of premium money by playing aswell so you can actually unlock everything for free. The community is also very kind and welcoming.
Good and clear video comparison.
Sounds like I would like DDO more
i remember trying neverwinter years ago and the whole time i was just thinking about how i would much rather be playing ddo
Nice to see an unbiased comparison and breakdown. The reason the Neverwinter quest seems disjointed is because more than half of the original quest line has been removed. Even though you're forced to reach maximum level before you can do any new content, the leveling up quests are all watered down monotonous railroad experiences that I can only assume dissuade any new players from experiencing the full game.
Surely there's a better solution for the levelling! I think players deserve better than that. Especially when they provide such a nice combat control scheme.
Yeah, the old, pre-quest leveling system was better. In fact, Cryptic could rewind the game to Mod 12, and it would be way more fun than it is now.
The only thing modern NW has going for it is combat. Everything else serves to drive you into the infinitely repetitive end-game, group content where you grind to have the exact same build as everybody else.
Fun in the very short-term, but nothing to put down virtual roots for.
DDO is much closer to actual D&D. 🎉
If they could somehow make AC and DR work at epic levels it would be even more d&d
@@senanur1983 Yeah, but AC and DR break down in pen-and-paper at higher levels, too. It's more a problem with 3rd Edition rather than DDO itself.
Also... DDO is hosting their "Hardcore" season. They have a server that is perma-death, with rewards that are accessible from ones home server. Some "classic D&D players may be interested in such a thing, as it is synergetic with tabletop D&D. These seasons only last a few months before going away.
Also you have to be VIP. That is have a sub. You can do it monthly for a really low price.
@@dennisdeal3323 no you don't, hardcore is open to everyone
DDO is a hell of a deeper game than Neverwinter. Neverwinter is like an MMO version of an arcade game.
I just gave Neverwinter a good bash last night.. and yeah I've gotta agree with you 100%.. The combat feels good, but there's no challange at all.. no group content at all and I'm level 8.. just following the golden line with no sense of adventure.. I might give D&Do a go.. I want a classic WoW experience with the exploration/slower combat/rewarding progression.. Just very hard to find.
DDO has one of the slowest reward progressions overall because of the reincarnation system
Even if you hit max level, you can do that 3 times per race and class and iconic and now special trees and you will keep getting stronger each time, and then there is end game reaper content on top of that (so there's variety as well).
Dungeons & Dragons universe is notorious for low level characters being very weak, very slow and very squishy. That translates into DDO just the same. You MUST get a DDO character to higher level before it starts to get really fun. It gets exceptional after 20 when your character has access to all their feats/spells/abilities. But DDO does one better by offering forever upgrades to your character every time you get to 20 and CHOOSE to start again at lv 1. The "Resurrection" mechanic was a brilliant addition. You CAN go all the way into Epics and Legendary content. Or you can go through the heroic again, but a wee bit more powerful than the last pass. And that continues... Players always have a choice. So so many cool choices all through the game.
This is honestly the reason DDO has kept me playing for 15+ years.. Reincarnating and being able to remake your character basically infinite number of ways adds so much replay value to this game. Plus it makes content at all levels still relevant which is genius move from a design standpoint
i actually fired up DDO today after not playing for oh a decade or more. and it was fun, even if the graphics are outdated, i felt adventure. it felt good.
DDO is more true to the D&D experience, whereas Neverwinter provides a neat themed arcade experience. That is fine - but the immersion in DDO is stronger and the experience way more memorable. Well you can't compare Coq au vin with with a bucket of hot wings now can you. Both have merit 😅
awesome reviews very reasonable points!
Ddo is my favorite of the two!
Yep. Neverwinter is a WoW-lite clone masquerading as "D&D" (even with its VERRRRRY loosely based 4th edition rules... which is a terrible ruleset to begin with). DDO is older, with outdated UI and graphics... but underneath is the closest you'll get to Dungeons & Dragons experience as a MMORPG as you can get.
3.5 > 4 > 5
so it's basically like Nickelodian and Nick jr. DDO and NWO
God damn I wish I wrote this line. But yes, absolutely.
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Great video! I hope you continue with DDO, if you appreciate it at the low level free content then im sure you will love some of the newer stuff too. And definitely check out some grouping! The community is very welcoming and friendly
Been playing NW for almost 5 years, it has changed a lot during the years. When i first started playing loads of story, but also grindy campaigns & quests. Which meant it would take 9-12 months to get to do endgame stuff. Now they changed it & no one bothers with the story. It's all about getting your character to level 20 which you can do in 12-36 hours. Joining ques as fast as possible, to get AD, in order to buy higher il gear, in order to do more challenging content. So as much as i really like the combat aspect in NW, truth is there's a lot of ppl with high il gear, knowing f all about story, mechanics, or knowledge of best gear choices for their class etc. I play other games for story/questing experiences, not NW. 10th year anniversary coming up for NW, gonna be hanging around for that & mainly because of friends i've made in the game throughout the years ). Nice video, might give D&D a go )
level 20 in 12-36 hours?? In less than 36 hours you can reach level 60/65 quickly, always going on maps that are 5 levels above you, and there are crystal globes spread across the maps that give a lot of xp initially!
Both are absolute trash for different reasons.
Great video! The character and build depth in DDO grows so much as you level. The lack of low level options lets you wade into the complexity at your own pace.
so the take away I'm getting from the video is that D&D Online seems to be more inline with the tabletop game with how exp works and the puzzles and all that stuff, kind of, but also Neverwinter seems to as well with the milestone based experience gain. But D&D Online seems more "fun" as video game. What I'm saying is that I know which game I think is better
Yes this is pretty much it. They're both fine in their own ways and it largely depends on what you want to get out of the game. Both of these are fairly respectable single player experiences so far too.
@@PeteSmells Also are you playing in normal or casual? ( ddo) the game seems quite easy. its a shame that new f2p players are forced to play in normal since its not that difficult.
@@Dulkh4n While that may be true, i think its kind of nice to go through your first playthrough on normal/hard. It makes learning the quests a lot less punishing, plus the XP is still more than enough on a first life character. Getting 1 shot by every single trap on Elite+ may not be what a brand new player wants lol
@@jacobrawlings9893 I actually recommend new players to play in hard if possible
@@Dulkh4n That would probably be the best balance of challenge and fun i agree
DDO has a much better community most of them are either current or previous D&D players
ddo is MUCH better! It reminds more of baldurs gate or neverwinter NIGHTS, with it's asymmetrical play and focus on character diversity and ADVENTURE. With it's awesome spellbooks for casters f.ex. - i honestly absolutely hated that a wizard in nwn knows like a handful of spells, all of which you will use, basically making another wizzy completely same as you, considering that you also get same looking gear at start, you will see duplicates of you runnin around for quite a while. nwn is also very narrow and linear, all from combat to questing, to even rewards...as f.ex. you always get same precious gem to pour into power for your gear, it's incredibly boring to get some 0.01% to your spell damage each time and also unnecesarily grindy. Party experience is absolutely atrocious in nwn, as mentioned you get to party sooooo late in the game, there are only a handful instances, and all you will get is a bunch of rushers who jump on mount (inside instance) rush towards a bunch of mobs or miniboss, nuke them, jump back on mount and rush again...because you need to do the instance for like 50 times. Makes you feel absolutely insignificant, your 5 cents of dps make no difference, as basically the few op players could tackle the instance 2-3 players or so...and what a BLAST i had in ddo with party experience lately: we were 3 - an unarmed combat paladin, and two wizards (who were absolutely different, one was an eldritch knight wearing armor and going melee, while using few buffing spells, and i was a classical robe wearing glass cannon wiz shooting spells) and everyone was indispencible, well placed and vital, be it paladin taking aggro or me bombarding from behind, we went together, at normal pace, exploring and fighting and dying together like it's supposed to be.
Narration wise ddo is also much better - it feels as d&d game, even thou it's not placed at Sword Coast, while nwn sorta uses the setting as a bait of sorts, like constantly showing popular characters from true d&d games, in particular nwn1, like "Hey look, it's Linu!" or "Hey look, it's Halaster!" while not having anything in common with bg or nwn, feels very shallow
Tried them both. Still playing DDO. NWN not.
On PlayStation the issue with Neverwinter is that more than 2/3rds of the end game content is impossible to do because you can't get a team, the community is the worst community you will ever play with. It is 100% pay to win or even to play because you have to use scrolls to get through the content and are expected too. If you do get lucky to get into one dungeon you will be kicked on first wipe even if it isn't your fault because you are the odd man out, sometimes they will even kick you at the end to replace you with their friends after you spent 30 mins and scrolls just to get to that point with no repercussions. The game is never about just having fun but 24/7 farming, and its a small community and unless you are of the female gender you are not welcome with open arms to these friends group and they will only play with their friend group even if you in their clan. This is every clan not just one of them, and you will have to have perfect builds and even then you can't get into a group even if you know exactly what you are doing.
I tried Neverwinter.. I hated it... it wasn't fun....
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... after about a 18 month period I figured I would give it another try... found I had an absolute shit-ton of boxes & points they had just given me... spent a day turning it all in for among other things.. a Bullet mount and ton of crafting stuff... still wasnt fun even after some item raised me to like level 70 or some.. and because I didnt have any gear no matter where I went at my level I got torn to fucking pieces... never looked back..
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that was about 5 years ago..
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DDO is the shiznit, never been happier, been playing since 2012
They both suck in there own ways. Both have really weak dev teams, very poor customer service. I enjoy DDO more, though I don't play much anymore.
How did you level? I was stuck on equipping your horse with no money. I bought coin which never showed up. Its a scam.
If you are going to play ddo, then you really need to wait to get to level 20 for heroic. Things get a lot more difficult and most long time players won't have time for you.
DDO Wayfinder Kikku if you want a good grouping experience.
Neverwinter doesn't compare to DDO. DDO is fantastic.
Tbh I think you're fantastic
The fun part of this, is in (when playing) choosing how you would like to play the game (for example, focusing on one enemy at long range or many enemies at close range), and from here you can already choose the class that best suits you. to the way you play, each class is a different ddo game (even if it's the same game, it feels like many, and you want to try them all), to kill many at once, the best ones are the spell casters.
The soundtrack in DDO gets more dramatic in higher levels.
DDO hands down is the most diverse game with multiple build options. Been playing since 2010. I gave NW a go a number of years ago but it just didn't give me the experience that I was looking for.
Kinda same. Playing DDO since around 2009, gave NW 2 attemps.. NW is flashy. Action packed. And hollow. DDO is like my tabletop adventure came alive in PC game.
im going to try it and give it a go - compare it to Lotro.
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worlds apart: You mean 3.5DDO Rules vs 5.0 rules that NWW is apparently based on. I've never played anything beyond NWN1 & 2 (when Persistence Worlds and Roleplay PWs was a thing online back in the early 2000s) however it's almost impossible to RP on DDO, it's too fast paced for that... that being said, I still play DDO to this day, with the constant worry that eventually, it will end in some manner... :/
Neverwinter is full P2W...
Ive played ddo since launch, and neverwinter for a couole of years when i had a ps4.... Neverwinter looks great, but the mechanics and character building in ddo allow you to more than forgive what it lacks in graphical power. In some of the newer content (from the MOTU onwards), some of the content far outshines some of the older eberon stuff. The underdark looks amazing
Ravenloft >>>> all other content imo
Sharn has insane potential and I'd like to see it developed further in ddo
@@HeavyMetalorRockfan9 The soul splitter and morgrave quest packs show that they work on extending the potential of sharn, if a bit slowly.
@@somederp8915 yeah I actually really like both of those, though soul splitter is a bit awkwardly placed in terms of levelling
Fair assessment, hope you do find some enjoyable play in ddo. I forgot how fun this game was. I played it shortly, 2weeks or so, after launch in 2004 0r something. I liked it then, and while I wish it was as updated as baulder's gate graphically, I wish balders gate 3, was as team and action orientated as ddo. Just some comments for the algorithm. G9od luck.
I refuse to play NW for the mere fact that ATARI first supported D& D online but then left them high and dry to go to NW/ sour taste in my mouth and will never again support a Atari game
So, did you get back to ddo?
I love DDO, i have been subscribed since the launch in 2006, but i don't have any real experience with anything else online, other than MWO, really. It is the only game i still play with any frequency these days. My son, who was a toddler when it came out, joined our group a handful of years ago 😉 The four of us get together a couple of times a week and I run a bit of solo content. Neverwinter hasn't ever really appealed to me and seeing a bit about how it works doesn't make me anymore enthusiastic.
I don't think this is a good career choice for you.
Thank you for the advice my friend
Good video sir.
omg is so cute that you don't have your imbue of fire arrow activated in DDO,
I recorded that footage some months ago, but I think it's only good for like 7 shots before it drains all mana or whatever the equivalent is? I'm quite likely to play more so I'll investigate. There's a very good chance I just missed something because, well, I am pretty stupid.
@@PeteSmells its a pasive stance you only activate it once, and all your attack have the fire dmg added, its what is called, an Imbue, and you can raise the amount of dices with enhancements and equipment
I have several hundred hours in DDO and Ive played some hours of NW. DDO is the better game but NW has better performance
There is no comparison DDO beats every MMO hands down
I just got to level 20 on Neverwinter, was playing both at the same time for a bit but I wanted to get over with the "hit level cap tutorial"
You said you don't like MMOs, me neither. The whole Neverwinter experience is exactly why I hate MMOs, I went from trying to read quest text to just spamming 1 and standing still in boring boss easy fights.
By Steam reviews Neverwinter is meant to be the better game and It probably is, but man I have enjoyed DDO so much more, I'm only up to like lvl 5 there which is after Korthos. I'll probably continue Neverwinter off and on just to "honestly dislike it" or "prove my judgement that I won't like it no matter how far I get" but DDO despite the bad score it has, it feels way closer to a fun RPG experience (Emphasis on "closer", if it was singleplayer it'd be awful, even tho I play it solo the appeal is ofc the MMO bit) the only thing Neverwinter I like more is that you start in the Forgotten Realms meanwhile in DDO you have to earn a bunch of store currency coins or pay $ to move to FR
steam launcher for ddo was broken for ages, thats why its score is so low
Been playing both since release and do is definitely the better of the two in every term besides free roam areas
I can agree as a veteran Neverwinter player. Its more about the combat. Making builds, go over the stats. Reaching lvl 20 is not the goal. Its just when things starts to open up. You have campaigns with storys and adventures. Also some Nice dungeoun and group content. Its a system to it. Neverwinter is a really exiting game. Problem is you can buy yourself up. But endgame gear you need play to get. But you can enter the new dung today. If wallet is big enough. Thats a bit downside. And upside for some
Hi. I have more than 10.000 hours logged on both games. I'm active on both.
Considering everything - two elements that the player has to consider.
-The timezone that you are going to play. In NWO, this implies finding an alliance in the same timezone to run content with you. In DDO, you need to see what server is more active for your timezone.
-DDO is mostly based on Eberon (you can go to forgotten realms). This means that it is a bigger game.
-NWO is only based on Forgotten Realms with the only exception being Barovia (which DDO also have).
-DDO you can change your race and your class via a system of resurrections.
-NWO you are stuck with your class. However most classes can be dps/healer, tank/healer, dps/tank or only dps.
This resurrection system sounds rather interesting
@@PeteSmells It's our own hamster wheel,, but is a fun one, you get to play with all clases and races so and you are not stuck with any of them, leveling up is not that hard once you get a couple of lives, and make you getting low level items fun too, because you are going to usem them when you reincarnate.
@@PeteSmells Just to be clear (because many, many people typo this) it's actually the 'reincarnation' system. You reach certain level milestones, and you can reincarnate and you can rebuild your character as a new race/class from level 1, while gaining a minor power boost based on what you've been in past lives. It's a super fun way to try out all the options in the game without having to give up your attachment to 1 character.
refreshing level of honesty
neverwinter best for me
In neverwinter, anything below lvl 20 is just tutorial, you need to finish the tutorial before you can judge the game.
If hitting max level is the tutorial, I don't think I wanna see what's on the other side
@@PeteSmellsno he is right tho. You can’t say you played all of Neverwinter if you only done the leveling quest line.