Why I left ESO for Guild Wars 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- My journey with ESO started in 2018 and lasted four years. I made countless friends, played thousands of hours, and explored the world of Tamriel from the streets of Daggerfall to the wilds of Vvardenfell. But all things must come to an end and this video is a love letter to those friends that I left back in Tamriel. I don't know when our paths will cross again, but until they do, I'm enjoying my time exploring Tyria and riding my griffon off into the sunset. Take care and excelsior!
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As someone who has put Thousands of Hours into ESO, FF14, BDO, GW2, and RS3, I do have to say GW2 is my absolute Favorite.
RS3?
@@Elemental_Clash Runescape, just not the old school Runescape.
Have you tried SWTOR? Great BioWare stories if you liked Mass Effect, KOTOR
@@Mystical_GoddessI haven't played Runescape for years so it completely slipped out of my mind. I think the last time I played was 2013.
GW3... !!! Made in the sole image of GW1.... The Build Craft!!!
as a veteran gw2 player, i love seeing the recent love and attention for the game from content creators. Awesome video!
Hope some of the GW2 new player someday try GW1 :D
@@Oregano1337 I did play GW1 after 4-5k hours in GW2 and I hated it.
@@OhItsNoctu It's a completely different kind of game, there is no open world everything is instanced. You have to collect skills to change gameplay and party/use NPCs just to do combat which is designed around full parties like a dungeon (tanks, healers and DPS). Dual professions means there is crazy amount of customisation. It's felt kind of oldschool even on release in 2004 when WoW changed the MMO genre forever by being simple, soloable and streamlined.
@@Oregano1337 i have never played gw1 because a friend had i was put off by the fact that you had to take every pixel with you if you want to bring map to 100. that's why i was never into gw1. i saw it from a buddy who played it and that put me off back then.
@@Oregano1337 nah, we already have shitty outdated gw1 engine in gw2, no need for more suffering
This has been quite interesting for me as a burned out GW2 vet who recently picked up ESO and found it a fesh and exciting wonderland to explore and i feel similarly to a lot of the things you described.
Rather than about the respective games, maybe it's more about the difference between trying a new game that has had years of updates and refinement, where you don't know the meta and it's still full of possibilities vs a game you've been playing for a while and exhausted, always catching up with new updates as soon as they drop.
This is the real answer
GW2 has similar downfalls when you figure it all out as well and actually theres not really anything to do but farm for armor skins a lot of it can be done much more effectively working a job and buying gold through the store. Endgame lacking a lot and going somewhat stale. My biggest gripe however is that none of the chars are really satisfying everything thats powerful and strong is taken down or made annoying or complex. When classic wow came out it was such a realization to me that you dont need to butcher everything, its about all classes being given unique powers. In vanilla wow i felt so damn overpowered in my own way no matter what class i played i felt i had tools that felt like cheating! But in the end even feeling like that i wasnt overpowered and vanilla wow was the game where the player power is clearly lowest and yet it made me feel that way! a true lesson because i wanted to feel class identity and strong powers and not to have everything made a pale almost average ability.
@@gg05irgm I feel like devs are removing complexity and excessively streamlining things rather than making things complex.
But i definitely agree that ANet is valuing balance and all classes being equal for "competitive PvE" at the detriment of uniqueness, flavor and FUN.
In that context it's kinda weird though that of all MMOs i went to ESO, where each class can fulfill each role and has their skill lines optimized for that as well as shared skills that can be used by every class. And often are overtuned compared to class abilities. Dawnbreaker of f***ing Smiting lol
@@gg05irgm I Agree 100%! GW2 is fun, was a big GW1 fan also! But rarely in a game have I been so frustrated at the amount of boring farm some of the content forces you to do. Farming for a Skyscale was simply the most annoying task I have had the (dis)pleasure of doing in my gaming "career". Story wise, ESO is miles ahead of GW2. Which is a shame because the world building and the universe are amazing but the stories and characters are bland at best, childish at worst.
Wise words....Wise words 🏆
Very wise words ❤️
Guild Wars 2 just feels like a world you're actually participating in. Sometimes things that happen in-game carve out memories that feel real IRL memories.
But there's no sense of progression, there's no end game At all, and the combat is outdated and boring.
@@FlashesSoccer011 I just started playing seriously after owning the game since 2014, to me I'm finding the mastery system great as a progression system. I had to stop playing MMOs a few years ago because my career got very busy and because of the constant time sinks they require to enjoy endgame, but now I'm glad that any progress I make isnt just going to be reset when I take a break next. I did find it hard to adjust to no "goals", but it's perfect as a casual/collectors MMO
Its a pre-alpha disguised as an MMORPG imo.@@FlashesSoccer011
@@FlashesSoccer011there is plenty of progression tho… we have plenty of endgame. You probably think that raids are the only endgame but actually the open world meta events are endgame too. Just not the type of endgame that you expect in other mmos. We have the AR progression system, the mastery system, the legendary system. It’s not like other MMOs that do the standard gear grind every expansion.
Odd, to me the world felt dead and NPCs didn’t feel alive, didn’t help most are not interactive. Had to quit. Especially the side quests, there’s virtually none, just boring heart events
As a long-time ESO player and dedicated fan, I found a lot of what you mentioned about ESO to be incredibly relatable. One of my best friends (whom I met through ESO) quit playing to play GW2 instead, and he has had nothing but good things to say about it. Hearing his constant praises of the game and watching videos such as this one makes me really want to try it out haha. This was a really nicely made video! :)
Both have more in common with issues then one may admit to see for yourself.
Especially with rewards structure, monetization and updates.
very accurate, even i as a PVP fanatic, after farming/grinding, and theory crafting, i just sit in dueling areas to test my build, then go to cyrodiil or imp city to find some good fights, my only drug to keep playing was moving away from the meta and creating my own build, in which the hardest part was of coarse the grind for the sets and also getting the weapons gold upgrades for the test performance in which most them ends as failure, but the times that the build works as intended is very rewarding. but then again the euphoria only last a couple of days then i tend to theory craft another build and so on and so on until i stop playing.
Guild Wars 2 does have it's flaws. I won't get into the details because what I consider flaw might not be a flaw to you.
What I will do is suggest that you give it a try. It's a free download and you can play for free to your heart's content. Trying it won't cost you a dime. If you do enjoy it, then you can buy the expansions (I suggest you wait until the go on sale, it's so much cheaper) to open up more zones / regions, get access to mounts and so much more. Having a friend already in game is a bonus because they can show you the ropes and, in my opinion, it's always better to play with a friend.
So, yeah, try it. You've got nothing lose except a little bit of your time.
Let's start playing then.
nothing lost if you try the basegame is free after all lets join ur friend and see for yourself if you like gw2 :)
I've played this game for 9 years. When my friend asks me what is so interesting in Guild Wars 2, I couldn't properly translate my experience in the game in words. With this video, you have helped me put in the words and the concept of 'having fun without hassle', which is in fact, the core concept of playing a game, minus away all the troublesome part of management, pressure, and hectic busy works.
A game that allows player to have fun instantaneously, anywhere, without the need to endlessly grind, prep, and team up. A game that we can just, pick up, have fun, and say hi to the stranger we meet along the way, go to sleep, head to work, and do it again. The correct definition of playing a game.
Exactly! 101% agree with every word.. As a father of 3 with a full and a part time job, grinding and the pressure of catching up is stressful. But not here.. GW2 respects your time, your freedom and you.
yea you nailed the problem with too many mmo's i feel WoW is one of the worst when it comes to using psychological or gimmicky tactics to keep people playing longer instead of focusing on keeping the game fun longer
Exactly. There's no stress. There's no grinding to end game or grinding to support end game. GW2 is very much an 'at your own pace', do what YOU want to do (as opposed to what the devs want you to do) type of game.
ArenaNet got it right. You should be able to PLAY the game, not work at it. When you start looking at it as a chore, it's no longer a game.
@@keithcraig506 Indeed. Fun should be the main aspect of every content a game has to have. Designing a game to only have one content being relevant, and everything else being stepping stones that you need to grind at, is a horrible idea. Sadly that is how most games are being made nowadays and that is very very sad.
You should’ve say “adventure and exploring”
A tip for ascended Viper gear (or any ascended armor/weapon actually).
1) Unlock the ability to craft the exotic version of the relevant insignia/inscription for the stats type you want. (In the case of Vipers, you just buy the recipes from one of the Aurillium vendors in Auric Basin)
2) Either craft the current cheapest ascended gear by materials cost for your weight class, or you can drop/earn ascended armor/weapon boxes in a variety of places like Fractals, certain world bosses, Strike Missions, Raids. Strike Missions are probably the most chill way to make consistent progress towards gear boxes from the relevant vendor. You can skip doing the hardest ones. As a plus you can specifically select the armor/weapon box that contains the stat type you want. (note if you have any Seasons 3, 4, 5 of the Living Story you also have a large range of content where you can gather/earn map currencies and trade them for stat-selectable ascended rings/trinkets/backpacks, and in the case of Bitterfrost Frontier an ascended rebreather/underwater headgear).
3) For any ascended armor/weapon pieces you have that don't have the stats you want (e.g you got a box drop that didn't have the right stat type, or you did as above and crafted the cheapest possible ascended gear) Just throw said item + 5 Globs of Ectoplasm + 1 Anthology of Heroes (from the mystic forge attendant for 10 spirit shards) + the exotic insignia/inscription you unlocked earlier and can craft, into the Mystic Forge and it will spit out a new ascended piece with the stats of the insignia on it (Do remember to remove all infusions from the item first if you have any slotted, or you will lose them).
My last tip would be a general one, and that is that for the vast majority of GW2 content, you do NOT need ascended/legendary gear. Exotic gear is cheap by comparison even for certain crafted stat types, readily available from a mass of sources, and ascended/legendary is only 5% more stat points than it. Only high tier fractals requires you to have a bunch of ascended gear, and that's only so you can slot agony resistance into it. Everywhere else your own personal skill with your character will often be the biggest determining factor on your effectiveness in combat, not whether you're in exotic or ascended gear :)
is WvW okay with Exotic? not get disadvantage against asc/leg users?
@@alenzandria3743 yes, thats fine. You will always have a slight disadvantage(reaaally not much) just because of stats, but nothing that cant be fixed by your skill expression
@@alenzandria3743 If you're into high-end Roaming, where you'll do a lot of 1v1 or 1vX, the extra 5% can really help sometimes. But if you tend to run around with a small group or with the main zerg, exotic is plenty good enough :)
Glad someone posted this. Same path I took to get my Vipers gear!
This is hugely helpful, especially point 3! What's the method for removing infusions? I have my ascended jewelry and trinkets and stuff and I know someday I'll probably want malign infusions for the condi + agony stats (and I know that's probably over kill/min maxing), but I have no idea how to remove the +9s that are already on them.
The pursuit of adventure is exactly why I've always played games and still do.
As someone that play GW2 a couple of months ago. You maybe doing solo stuff in GW2 but you never feel alone and always see random players, from another solo to party to full raid worldboss slayer/meta events.
On top of that, I never done LFG, and doing LFG in GW2 and met some nice people even help me with understanding the gearing in game gives me a lot of confidence and more fun times that I never experience.
Hope you enjoy your stay in Tyria as I do.
This was such a beautiful and elegant video! Welcome to GW2!!
I’d be curious to see how your venture into crafting legendary gear goes~
I’m going to be starting in earnest (with Bolt or possibly a scepter now) in a few weeks. I just finished crafting my ascended scepter and it was time gated by a particular piece. Gonna take a while lol
@@Coniff Great choice!! I’m also working on Bolt, though I am on the last stretch of it already. Was a fun grind. Goodluck with the journey there!!
@@Coniff ad infinitum (fractal back item) is also a great choice.
Since legendaries are shared across all characters you will never need to craft (or farm for) a back piece again.
Great choice. I'm an Ele main as well and got Bolt as my first leggy for my Weaver. Love the gameplay of S/D Weaver, super glassy but very satisfying.
Edit: There's an Achievement in game for having two of the same legendary weapons bound to your account (Twice-Told Legend). I'm considering going for it with Bolt. That's how much I like the weapon! hahaha
Geez, what rock have you been hiding under???!!
This editing quality, the clips, the music, your voice. AMAZING.
You should have gazillion times more subs :O
At least now you have 1 more ;)
100% agree
2 more :)
and more, +1
Ha, thanks for the kind words and the sub(s)! The problem is I don’t upload on a consistent schedule because it takes so much work 😅
Another one
You blew me away with the video man, as a person who got introduced to the game only 3 months after its launch, I keep returning to it whenever I feel sad and it brings me joy to play it again. Thank you for this video
Crazy awesome review
Just a heads up for new players. You might hear a lot of doom and gloom regarding the game from guild wars 2 communities, but never forget that this is coming from a minority of players that have T H O U S A N D S of hours into the game.
As a new player you will easily get at least a thousand hours into this game without scratching the surface of what it has to offer. This game is amazingly huge.
There's some trolls in the Steam forums, too. Personally, I really like this game. I like that skill and muscle memory greatly effects the outcomes of fights. It's like a fighting game and mmorpg had a baby.
There is not 1000 hours worth of new andnfresh content. You will burn our long before you ever approach those numbers unless you are a die hard GW2 fan.
@@FlashesSoccer011
If you play anything for 1000 hours, you are a die hard fan of a game.
@manictiger I am referring to the original commenter. They said a new player can play for 1000 hours and "never scratch the surface of what the game offers."
That's ridiculous. That's 100% false.
@@FlashesSoccer011
Fair enough.
It takes about 700 - 1000 hours to be competent with a single specialization, but yeah, that's not scratching the surface, I suppose. That's more like ultra end-game stuff.
Hard to believe your channel is not bigger. Subbed. Impressive video and story telling.
Great video, I wholeheartedly agree and I also love that you've filmed in ultrawide.
Ultra wide is the way to go! 😊 thank you for watching!
Extremely well made video!
I've been playing ESO off and on since beta and agree with everything in this video, been looking around all day researching other MMO's and you've made me install GW2, I hope it works out well for me
And what is your conclusion so far?
Very inspiring story of your journey. I play both games, really enjoy my GW2 journey and experience. Creating a new character and leveling is better than many other MMO's. Exciting and rewarding.
beautiful video. thank you for sharing! im downloading it and can't wait to get started .
Thank you for this video. I came back to GW2 after 7-8 years with my friend, and there are tons of content. We're loving it again. 😃
"The game that could have used better marketing" is indeed the best way to describe gw2. Welcome to the community! Hope you'll have lots of fun! 😁
Edit: And I see you've been doing some of that better marketing yourself because that opening sequence with the gw2 music gave me chills. Amazing production on your video.
More like it could use any actual real marketing. Having played for years as an active member of a guild that organizes one of those multi-squad open world events daily, I've lost count of new players asking how they've never heard of GW2 until so recently.
Yeah… I’m not sure what NCSOFT or Anet’s angle is but not marketing can’t be the right choice 😂.
Thanks for the kind words! Saga of the Norn is such a good track and the perfect marketing music for this game!
@@Coniff Man, haven't touched that game properly in around two years, this video might actually get me back in, getting the feels.
About Anet's approach - not sure either but what i've noticed is that there are rarely toxic players in this community outside of some minor douches in PvP and WvW. Part of it might be the low popularity of the game. Kids these days only go for the new and shiny, old graphics and the MMO genre not being the top dog anymore play a part.
Your videos are very high quality, i'm sure if you keep it up you can get quite a following.
I literally stopped the video after seeing "The game that could have used better marketing"!
1000% agree. ESO and GW2 are my 2 favorite mmo's, so your video grabbed me with just the title, then you hit a home run with the sub-title. Hilarious (cause it's true)!
I tried every RPG and more. GW2 IS FAN-TASTIC!!! Nothing compares to the constant surprise of the quality, music, maps, characters and the community that actually helps each other. GW2 IS UNTOCHABLE
Really surprised you don't have more subs. Excellent video! I have a similar experience coming over to GW2 from another game. GW2 is amazing, and it's been the main game I've been enjoying.
Awesome video! Expertly written and voiced. Thanks!
Playing ESO since 2016 I was there for the golden era as you described. I still love it and enjoy my time. The trick to long term survival in ESO is knowing when to disconnect from the grind. Divide your time between easy and stressful content. Learn to say no to a HM run when your nerves are already fried. Enjoy the simple things. ESO already had what you were looking for and I learned how to access it before I had to quit. Sweats who don't know how to disconnect always burn out and vent their frustration on the game for the way they feel, but your approach to the game is equally to blame. Unless you learn to follow what your body and mind is telling you to do TODAY you will burn out on gw2 also
I've played almost every mmo under the sun.
There are many games that implement systems to force players into daily chores, never-ending gear treadmills and constant "Forced Balancing" to promote alt creation.
Guild Wars 2 respects your time with it's horizontal gearing systems. You can leave the game for a while and return and your items will still be relevant.
The community is very helpful and communicative. There are players that have open groups on LFG allowing players to join and teleport to them bypassing difficult jumping puzzles.
You can find many mesmer players helping new players with their portal to reach difficult locations when they don't have access to mounts yet.
It's also the only mmo where I truly feel that every map is alive with something going on at all times of the day and unlike majority of other mmos where it's just a means of levelling and never returning.
Some large maps are so big and structured to have multiple levels, you can sometimes find your-self lost and needing to way-point back if you don't have a skyscale or griffon mount.
Also this is the only game where mounts are more than a means of transportation and a necessity to completing some activities such as springer ground-pound ability for some heart activities or reaching other-wise unreachable restricted areas, such as the Jackal portals and roller-beetle breakable doors or just traversing dangerous terrain such as using a skimmer to float over quick-sand.
With the implementation of fishing in the latest expansion, players are now given a semi-afk low-intensity gold farming method for those that wish to multi-task other things.
All achievements, fashion, mounts and mastery levels are account bound making alts much less of a chore.
There are races which involve mounts of all types such as very fast drifting style racing with roller beetles, races with elevation with springer, underwater ones with skimmer, super-speed flying with griffon and many more.
There's so many hidden areas all over the game some you will find, how-ever most you will most likely miss unless you have a keen eye and spend time exploring.
The variety of activities that you do while levelling is diverse and unique from anything else I've played. Gone are the days of kill x amount of this or fetch x amount of these.
The large-scale events in this game, are truly 'Large-Scale'. Make sure to adjust your graphics settings accordingly because meta-events with full maps can get quite hectic.
Fractals [GW2 Mythic Dungeons] implements many other activities which require thinking and not just killing mobs, such as unlocking locked doors, dodging traps and jumping puzzles to list a few.
World vs World is the closest i've felt in an mmo to being in an actual large-scale war, you need to experience it to believe it.
PvP has it's ups and downs with constant balancing, but the great thing about PvP in GW2 is that you just need to complete the tutorial and you can start pvping straight away, you will be scaled to max level and all gear is equalized.
Raids and Dungeons are what you would expect from any typical mmo how-ever arena-net seems to have more focus towards other game-modes such as Strike-Missions and WvW at the moment.
Dungeons in GW2 are unique in a way that you can choose [vote for] multiple routes to complete the dungeons leading to different paths within the dungeon and culminating in a different boss fight at the end.
Strike Missions have been added recently and are basically Raids without the Mobs, basically boss-rush mode for players who a searching for difficult pve content but are short on time.
Every year there are festivals for every season that introduce even more large events and group social activities which players can participate in to earn unique rewards and fashion unlocks.
The mastery system in GW2 doesn't increase player power but rather quality of life improvements and accessibility of certain systems.
Fashion in GW2 is very diverse, I've seen almost perfect imitations of super-heroes, real life celebrities, cartoon characters, characters from other games and so many weird and wonderful looks. You can also dye your mounts to match your fashion as-well, leading to some epic looks while mounted.
With infusions you can modify your looks even further and create effects which complement your fashion.
You can be as dark as night itself or a walking disco-ball, most people tend to not go to those extremes but I have seen some looks that I can never forget.
GW2 is known in the mmo community as the game that does everything different, sometimes something different is what you need.
GW2 is truly a casual MMO. Intended to have fun not to replace your job/life.
One thing you pointed out that I was going to mention in my original script of this video (it was going to have like 5 more parts but I figured I was being exhaustive to the point of being unnecessary), is the Mastery system. I love how it’s all quality of life stuff rather than flat damage increase. ESO now kinda has this system in the green champion point constellation, but it’s not nearly as fleshed out as the system in GW2.
Such a high-quality video! Subbed, hope the GW2 vids continue!
Thank you for sharing your experience 😊😊
Great video! Aside from the content, you cadence of speech and voice are excellent. I hope to see you make more videos in the future.
As a GW2 veteran i can say that ESO is typical Elder srolls game with thousands and thousands of hours of solo story content with mmo elements sprinkled here and there. while GW2 is full MMO experience.
Guild Wars is an even more dated game than ESO. Congrats, your mounts can fly. That in no way makes the game superior. Once the new servers get upgraded good luck justifying GW over ESO lol
@@Sniperjones_007 That has nothing to do with the comment you are answering
I find GW2 to be the loneliest MMO.
@@Sniperjones_007 they don't just fly, they feel good to fly. Both movement and combat feel like an extension of my body in a way no other game does for me
@Cody Crandall In Gw2 theres always people to play with no matter what content you do, you will also have a challenge in the open world unlike ESO where you can be naked while spam left click and not lose 5% of health.
I really love when people recap their mmo history. It's always fun to listen to. As a GW2 player, hearing about your time in peak ESO, makes me wish I could of experienced it at that point. GW2 is great, but eventually you really end of doing the same things over and over again with minimal rewards. That's kind of the end game.
I am a HUGE ESO fan and that will not change, but I have played quite a lot of GW2 also, and whilst I am yet to play it at a higher level, it is without question or doubt a MASTERWORK. I also played a lot of GW1 - I can hear Fear not this Night playing. What an outstanding track.
This is some high quality production.
Welcome to GW2!
I played GW2 for several hundred hours simply because it's what my friends were playing. For the longest time, I just played it when they did to hang out with them. It took ages for it to finally click with me, but once it did, it became my favorite mmo by far.
Took me like a year or two before it clicked for me and I had pre-ordered the dang thing. Now it's my favorite. Even when I take breaks from it I still feel the urge to go back just because it allows me to just...play whatever.
as a veteran gw2 player, i love seeing it getting more new players, welcome aboard!
Gladd you enjoying your time in Tyria :) i do have 1 thing to note, next to raids there are also so called strikes. Those are 10 man single bosses (so not like a raidwing but just the boss) and in the EOD ones there is a normal mode and a challange mode. The challange modes are really hard, even harder then raids. Especially harvest temple cm, this boss takes 12 minutes to beat average and most groups do like 40 hours of progression on that specific boss, so there is also a endgame for sure
Every point you made of what made you fall in love with Guild Wars 2 hit home. My friends and I started it (after not playing for years) in 2021 and it just hit so different. The cooperative nature of the community, the liveliness and events of zones, the story hell EVERYTHING. It felt like what a true MMO should set out to be. I got so into the lore that I ended up purchasing GW1 and by god that wasn't a mistake. It just helped to enrich 2 so much more. So any who this video was wonderful. Big ups man.
Have you linked the two accounts yet through the hall of monuments? If not, do so, you'll be pleasantly surprised.
@@kingklump I have yep! All my Ascalonians sport the fiery dragon sword! Currently working on getting the last 10 points for that sweet sweet title.
Nice video, looking forward to seeing your adventure in WoW if you end up playing it. Basing it off of the teaser at the end ofc
Thanks for the video, it's so interesting to hear the opposite perspective - certainly seems like the people who dislike the state of their game are also the ones most passionate about it. I've played GW2 and ESO on and off since beta. I'm taking a break from GW at the moment after finishing the 'hardest' content (Harvest Temple) and currently I'm not really finding anything to do much, frustrated at many of things you've noted in this video. Meanwhile, I'm back in ESO which I haven't played properly since Morrowind expansion. I've got heaaaps to do - including learning how to parse correctly and all the DLC dungeons - so it's going to be great to a pile of content. Glad to see Guild Wars 2 finally having its renaissance despite end-game players are just as jaded about it, as you seem to be jaded with ESO. Have fun!!
Edit: And to add - I haven't been burnt yet with the rapidly shifting endgame state by ESO yet or with the gear, which is something GW is always great at supporting. We'll see!
I think this might be the true message of this video. At the end of the day when logging in becomes a duty and playing is a “clock in” style feeling, it’s best to take a break and try something new! Glad you are having fun with ESO, there is certainly a million and one things to do in that game! The shifting meta may have calmed down a bit from U35, because that toon a pretty big toll on the veteran community!
I Teared up a little bit. I felt the same thing. Now, 4 leggys, almost all mounts, all ascended gear in, i can safely say, that we protected Tarir for over a Century, and we will for another
Damn this is an extremely high quality video for such a small channel. Hope you grow!
I always loved GW2, your video makes me want to play it again. I loved the fact that exploration gave you quests to do, not the other way around.
I am NOT tearing up at that intro...
God I love this game and Saga of the Norn is such a banger track
Great video!!
As someone who have been gaming since the 80s non stop. I can relate. gaming is the spice of life and the variety is what I love. gaming has been there for me and always will. Its has been there for marriage, divorce, marriage again lol, grad school and now sharing it with my kids. AWESOME VIDEO!!!
LOL that ending, man i really like your style, got a new sub!
glad to have you with us!
Launch day player on ESO myself: The atmosphere is what kept me coming back to it. I'm still playing it to this very day, but I'm always open to trying other things. Despite Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 having been out for quite some time, I personally never got into any MMORPG until ESO came along. Since then I've also dipped my hand in FF14 & BDO, but I'm always willing to give something different a try, to add on to my list of things that keep me engaged.
The things you said about ESO are actually on the money, so I'm not going to argue that fact. Everyone has a different experience with it. For some folks if the engagement disappears due to so many changes that go against basic principles, then it is understandable someone wishes to seek clear waters elsewhere. I've invested a LOT of time into ESO and won't be one I break away, but I am going to add Guild Wars 2 to the list of things to branch out and play.
But what if you hadn't already spent thousands of hours in TESO and had to pick again. Say you're coming from BDO and try ESO and GW2: Which one would you pick?
@@bacondingo Then I play something else. It ain't that hard to do. The experience would have been no different than it was with TESO.
Well made content, got yourself a sub and looking forward to more. Welcome to GW2 by the way :)
I loved your Story Telling. Great Person to listen to
Havent played wow in years and the music still gives me chills!
Great video! Can’t wait for more content!
I myself have tried most of the main mmorpg’s, I tried elder scrolls online earlier and then again revisited it after EOD. I enjoyed many things about it, but I found as I got further into the game itself it really started showing a lot of negative qualities amongst it’s good qualities. My brother, his girlfriend and I were all playing and we ventured off into PVP and we had a lot of fun until the Lycan’s started running us over that is. Never got to trials, ran lots of dungeons but besides that just PVP.
As for GW2 the new end-game content is strike missions, think raid boss encounters but just the boss itself. Harvest temple challenge mode lasted almost a week before the first team cleared it when it was originally released but that being said the original versions of all the strikes are very accessible once you get ice brood saga, and EOD.
As for your ascended vipers gear, you have a chance at getting ascended gear when running fractals usually in the form of damage, defensive and healers. You can craft a cheaper recipe (grandmaster marks) and use fractal currency to buy vipers gear as well. Lastly, you can do icebrood saga strike missions and buy ascended gear as well or raid and do the same.
Also, wanted to point out as we are awaiting announcements for the next content from GW2 but usually in the past with living world seasons when they come out if you log in you’ll receive them for free so ensure you log in during the time period that they release in. :)
Cheers!
Thank you for your comment and wisdom! I am currently half way through LWS4 (doing the story in order) so I will be able to get to those strikes in the coming weeks hopefully!
@@Coniff another quick tip to avoid the same misfortune I had. But at the end of season 4 you unlock the ability to start the skyscale quest to unlock your skyscale mount, take your time with this quest… it’s long haha. But make sure you save 250 currency from all the living world season 4 maps because you’ll eventually need it to buy items from merchants. You can get a bunch of currency by finishing the return to achievements on the living world season 4.
And np, people helped me out as I went through the game, it’s honestly the best community I’ve come by. Enjoy your time with GW2!
As a WoW pvp'r this video has me interested in GW2. Also you should have 500k subs with how well you present your videos. Spicy edits, great info, good narrating voice. You got what it takes, kid.
Very much agree with all of this. I had a similar journey that ended in finally trying out GW2 just six months ago. It is such a fun, dynamic, and varied game. My wife found out she loved to fish, my son does pvp 24/7, and I play with them or do the meta grind depending on my mood. So much stuff to do, and jumping into and out of groups and conversations while doing so never seems like the chore that it did in every other MMO I have played before this. Also, aside from pvp tryhards, the community is heads and tails more civilized and accepting than anywhere else. The fact that LI builds are common conversations in map chat is a testament to that.
La cinematica del wow al final del video es GOOODD me puso los pelos de punta!!
This makes me want to consider trying gw2 again... As a player with incredibly limited playtime I crave community without the need to constantly chase a meta I don't have time for!
Please do :) I have been playing with somwe small pauses for over 8 years and never felt like I was left out on story. Older maps still have many players active, just for some stuff (if you want a collection/achiev) you may need to check event timer or LFG to make sure you have enough ppl in map.
Unless you join HC guild with mandatory participation, there is no preassure ;) Most ppl understand that everybody has a job/family and needs to take time off.
Also, I find the community still super friendly and helpful
Yup its hard to chase the meta when you have other responsibilities like family
Been playing GW2 since release. Always welcome new players. It's a great game and it respects your time.
@@brumaliaworks7662 I login after a while and the time I had put in wasn't wasted due to a content update. Not sure how else to describe this then as other games I've played like to invalidate your time with each release.
Not only I subscribed but also, am listening to your podcast!
Just started this game last weekend. I love it so far!
Oh man, am I glad to have someone like you in this community! I hope you stick around cause it made me really sad to see the Legends of Tyria podcast end before it could reach its potential within the GW2 community... Anyways it's good to find a game to call home. See you in Tyria, man!
The GW2 weapon system is what I would really want to be in ESO. Classes can wield the same weapon but how they choose to wield it is completely different. Gameplay/Combat is my most important thing in MMO games. New classes and skills etc... It's really sad, that since like 2018 Summerset my Nightblade in ESO didn't change at all. While in GW2, I went with my Thief from Core to Daredevil then to Deadeye, and then Specter, and switched back to Deadeye with a new build.
Holy crap…insane production quality. New sub!
I really liked yiour video. Happy Gaming sir!
Dude, your talk about ESO was so relatable for me. I remember starting back in 2018 on the Xbox EU Server and completing vMoL at CP 500 or getting all the skins and personalities available in each DLC dungeon. I also remember doing trials like a madman but after getting stuff like TTT or Immortal Redeemer and even Gryphonheart. I remember sitting 2 hours in my room parsing and improving my numbers wasting dozens of pots. I even started going for serious scores with my mates or by myself. I probably ran vMA like 300 times and it never got boring, despite it seeming like a waste of time.
I still had fun however, even in hindsight. And while I don't know what caused it exactly, ESO became extremely repetitive and stale and even worse in a lot of regards for me. Dungeon mechanics got less creative, raids were less exciting and the abysmal performance on Xbox One didn't help me either.
GW2 seriously impressed me, because there is just so much different content and I never really felt forced to do anything I didn't want to do at that moment.
I never made it as far as you did in the trial area (I did complete all the DLC trials on vet though), as arenas and dungeons were my jam. I definitely had fun, but I realized at some point last summer that I was literally just logging in to go to like 3 different places: The town where I had a guild trader in, my house for DPS parsing, and whatever dungeon or trial I was doing. lol
Gw2 has no progression. Takes 2minutes to learn the game. It’s a mile wide and an inch deep.
@@monalisa-bs4zs And yet newer players are dealing up to 10x less damage than veterans just because they don't know the rotations, combos and boons. A single open world meta is enough to show you that it takes a hell of a lot more than just two minutes to learn the game.
@@jcm2606 No its just difficult to get perfect maxed stats and most players are terrible at teaching. mr mystic gw2 from this platform proves my point perfectly. Check out his content to see how easy everything is once you have access to all stats, and other creators have posted literal afk builds doing near 30k lul. Players have no fps and are half afk in world boss fights so that's an idiotic place to look at numbers. look at pug strikes and t4 fractals. Everyone about the same. With the odd person caring enough to change sigils and setup for burst phases for each fights doing a bit more.
I love both games but GW2 just hits every spot for me. I love it so much as mostly a collector/achievement hunter player GW2 is top tier!
Hey shrenko, hit me up in game and we’ll do some achievements together. I’ve already crafted at least one of every Legendary weapon and 2 Legendary pistols and daggers for dual wielding, but want to work on achievements and Legendary trinkets and backpack now. I’m also looking for a new Raid static squad, so I can finish getting my first set of Legendary armor (I’m halfway done). Amigadave.5623
I laughed when I saw the New World joke.. Man was I ready to play new world but was severely disappointed. It's been over a year now and I heard they improved it a lot. I stumbled across your video because I played gw2 at launch and every time I want to come back to play I'm overwhelmed with what to even do anymore. Well put together video.. thanks!
That WoW cinematic at the end gave made me shiver all over.
One thing you may have missed is that there is no gear grind in GW2. Ascended gear was the only time a new tier of equipment was introduced, and that was 3 months after the game launched. The level cap has also never increased. Combined, these mean that if you're getting burned out, you can just take a break and come back later without worrying about falling behind.
Also, Legendary equipment is statistically identical to Ascended, so that grind is purely optional if you want Best In Slot gear.
I just want the WvW breastplate tendrils. Honorary skritt want shiny!
Also, the WvW tassets look pretty dang nice.
@@manictiger idk, after my first 2 pieces of wvw I'm actively looking into the raid set which is even shinier
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Not sure how you can get shinier than electrical tendrils coming out of the back.
@@manictiger easy, giant shards of energy based armor sprouting from your regular armor the moment you enter combat
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That's not what the preview showed me. You mean the perfect envoy stuff?
GW2 is the only MMO where I never skipped through a single line of dialogue during the story. Shit was so good I actually cried a few times. I love the fact that I go back from my current multiple months break from it and all of my characters will be just as powerful as they were before.
This is the only game that gave me goosebumps playing the stories. I never skipped a single line, it's brilliant. 3 moments that hit the right spot for me were when Aurene shares her power with you, when Balthazar kills you and you find yourself in Purgatory searching for your memories and the chilling silence in the spot where Aurene dies and everyone is weeping only to turn mega-badass moments later
Wtf? Are you castratrd or somrthing? As an adult i felt cringe in main campaing almost all the time
Kudos to this unbelievable intro! You captured the beauty of Tyria perfectly!!
Played almost all MMO's, but every time I get back to GW2 the most. Welcome to the community!
That pigeon comic and the ultrawide screen, WOWEEE! I've been addicted to GW2 since it's 3rd beta, welcome! :D
Tried gw2 like 4 times . Wanted to like it. Never grabbed me. World, characters, races, combat, non of it made me say oh inwant to learn more. Combat felt floaty like it plays itself. Plus I like tanking and healing. Couldn't even find dungeon groups.
I installed GW2 yesteday, played for 40 minutes and uninstalled, thought it was so boring, running arround doing silly quests, looked like work. Im downloading again, gonna give another try after your video.
Base game is a bit nondescript at the beginning, especially if you play a human as they have the most basic/vanilla starting zones. And since the game locks you out of the main story until you hit level 10, it can seem a little confusing to know what to do or where to go before then. Give it some time though and it might just grow on you!
Welcome to GW2, my friend. U put some awesome footage together !
I was hooked till the end, you're an amazing story teller and creator. I was very confused to only see you have 1.4k subscribers. I am not a massive MMO player and picked up ESO like yesterday, I think I will switch, and give GW2 a shot again.
Marvelous voice! 10/10 would listen again.
Yep, I did the same.
GW2 is by far the best overall MMO I played. It mostly focuses on horizontal progression. I loved World vs World castle sieges. I loved the story. Sadly the game is just too old for me in 2023. Would return for a GW3.
What other mmo is not old? ESO, GW2, WoW, New World is all the same stuff
@@shaun9156 I had some fun with Black Desert. But I felt so disconnected with the world, community and lore that I dropped in a few weeks. I didn't play any MMO for a while. Not worth my time.
Thank you for this video. I was planning to try this game out. This will be my first ever MMO.
Lovely Video. I play both games, as well as having produced a podcast for ESO (New Companions) & Currently Podcast with The Lightbringers on GW2. Both game sbring me a lot of joy for varying reason.
Appreciate the video, and welcome to GW2!
I also moved from ESO after 8k hours and moved to different MMOs and ended up playing GW2. Maybe the new class can bring some community back but too late for me. Cheers
Just a heads up: ascended gear has the same stats as legendary and you don't have to craft it. Strike missions (the content you skipped over) aka mini raids, has vendors tied to them that sell stat selectable ascended gear. 12 strikes total btw. Ascended/legendary is only 5-10% better than exotic and only necessary for fractals because of agony.
I’m working through the story in order which is why I haven’t gotten to strikes yet, definitely excited to get there though as the idea of mini raids basically fixes my problem with the time commitment of trials in ESO.
And if you do decide to craft ascened vipers, what you are looking for is the ascended prefix 'yassith'. I beleive you get the recipes for it from the exalted vendor near the center of the auric basin map. The vendor should also sell the exotic inscription/insignia recipes for vipers if you decide to stat change other ascended peices.
Also, in terms of raiding, a two hour block once a week is a decent expectation for learning the fights without an insane commitment, although it may take a month or two to get your first clear. Once you know the fights, a moderately experienced group can generally clear a full wing (3-4 bosses) in one hour, and a practiced static can get below 30 minutes. (The enrage timer on most fights is between 7 and 10 minutes iirc)
I started with DnD Online (DDO) in October 2009 and played for 5 years (With 4K-5K hours played), but I had lost the thrill. Like you I had a friend who had been playing GW2 for two years asking me to give it a try and after dozens of requests I jumped in (2014). I instantly enjoyed the game and was excited to try every race and class. I was excited to play an MMO again and now after 8 years, creating 50 level 80 toons, and as of today logged 8,031 hours, I am still as excited to play GW2 as I was the first year. The mounts are incredible, the teamwork refreshing and the online support awesome. I hope you continue enjoying to play GW2 for a long time. Side-note: If anyone out there plays DDO, I have an account which including many OLD rare items I would trade for GW2 loot or gold.
Dude this is a great quality video. Nice work.
All Hail the algorhithm lol. So, I've known the name and voice now for a couple months thanks to the Legends of Tyria. Looks like Spotify talks to TH-cam. You seem to have the same insane high production value that they did and I can't wait for more GW2 vids. Very fun video to watch.
That is truly remarkable if the algorithm brought you here haha. Love Jibbs, Kash, and Sunny, and I’m glad you enjoyed LoT! ❤😊
@@Coniff I too was brought by the algorithm, as a vet gw2 player, its always fun to watch new players discover it. Loved your intro btw.
Storywise GW2 cannot compete with TESO or SWTOR. Playgamewise GW2 is one of the best multiplayer/casual games.
Very great vid. Very professionel! Was a joy to watch
I started ESO in 2016 on Xbox, Moved to pc in 2017. In total I have 4200+ hours into the game. My main gripe has always been the amount of money I end up sinking into just getting ESO+. The games always labelled as a "Buy Once, Play forever!" kind of game, but your stuck into buying ESO+ for dungeon dlcs and zones and the craft bag, then stuck in a corner to buy the latest chapter because of the overwhelming power creep which ends up occurring after every single update. But I loved the Morrowind DLC, I mained the warden up until now. But it's just brutal. LFG system doesn't exist. Then a lot of toxicity in end game pve, which has just pushed me away even more. In 2020 I made my first GW2 Ranger, and since then I've stuck 2400 hours into the game. Crafting legendaries, doing strikes and fractals, it just feels amazing. Not to mention how amazing the metas are. It feels more fun to do dailies rather than a chore.
I'll still never get over ESO's visual ambience, the music, the zone designs and so on. Just the look and feel has been engrained on my soul forever.
Zo$ needs to update the game in a way to satisfy the players, not just updating the crown store.
For me it’s easy.. the crown store has ruined that game.
This video has similar reasons to why I have left ESO and encourage others to leave ESO for GW2, GW2 is just ESO but done better, even the combat is similar. I do think its funny how similar our journeys in ESO are, down to Vet Scalecaller being done at around CP 300 and maining a Stamblade
Scalecaller remains one of my favorite dungeons in ESO to this day. It builds upon each fight and the final boss HM takes elements of each into account. Also Stamblade is best class hands down, although I guess with hybridization, it’s really just nightblade these days lol
@@Coniff yea I took a break because of monetization and lack of cosmetic rewards then fully quit when hybridization was announced
Currently downloading on my steam deck to play this for the first time . This vid is hype
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I'm literally addicted to both ESO and GW2(also GW1 which is despite its age AMAZING) i loved the way you talked in your video and i managed to watch it till the end because it was actually entertaining (not many youtubers have the ability to keep us viewers entertained for more than 10 minutes,at least in my experience).Anyway in short welcome to the game friend it's great to see more people flocking to this amazing underrated game and say hi to your new subscriber you talked like your the main character XD in this video and really won me over :D
Very well made video. And how do you only have 160 subs with a voice like that?
These kinds of videos are always fun and funny to me because if you were a vet GW2 player and an avid raider and instanced content enjoyer you would be making the same video about leaving GW2 lol.
Definitely the vicious cycle I suppose :)
Enjoy the journey!
Bought gw2 played till lv 32 came back 8 years later and now I am really into it :D
GW2 respects your time. Welcome to Tyria! Great voice bytheway
A problem a lot of us MMO addicts have is, after so long of enduring the grind and playing like a second job, we end up believing everyone else should go through the same struggles to enjoy endgame and have a constant feeling of the need to mindlessly grind to be "raid ready". GW2 being so fundamentally different with it's horizontal progression, completely goes against this mindset, which most MMO players simply find it impossible to break the programming we've been fed for so very long, we've become obsessed with the vertical progression of constantly chasing better gear for progression. There is so much more to MMOs than grinding and GW2 proves that more than any other.
This Really inspired me, i am/was like you I mainly enjoy Raiding and Dungeons, i hate missing out on items or limited stuff and ill be honest thats why i quit some Games. I found myself in an MMO hole after i Quit Playing Progress AA. This Video showed me that there is more to Playing and MMO than beeing the Best. Thank You! I´ll try to keep your words in mind.
Such a well done video. Great voice Great attention capture... Keep it going