Inside the Chieftain's Hatch Snapshot: AMPV MCmd
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- The AMPV is the long-awaited replacement for the venerable M113 based series of vehicles. In this video, I walk around the vehicle with the AMPV product manager LTC Costa, and pepper him with unexpected questions in order to shed a little more light on this new vehicle which we'll be buying by the thousand but seems to have somewhat gone under the radar. Vehicle filmed at Warren, MI, courtesy of PEO GCS.
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Fun fact: the Bradley hull is made up of 50% disturbingly oversized bolts & fasteners, 50% gunner's socket wrenches lost beneath the turret, and 50% human skin scraped from exposed knuckles
tell me you did time in a hell hole without telling me you did time in a hell hole
Black skillcraft pens and green Chem lights.
I think that maybe one too many 50%.
@@chrisandrews414 Fact: All brad hulls leave the factory with OD green CARC paint but gradually turn that fleshy color as PMCS is performed over time. They were purposely designed to abrade & accrete the exfoliated skin cells of hapless combat crewmen & thus accumulate a soft outer shell that absorbs energy from ground seeking radars.
Organic stealth technology of the future at no additional cost to the taxpayer beyond bandaids and bactine. If your track still has a radar signature after the 1st year past fielding, clearly your crew are not performing enough -10 level maintenance/making suitable sacrifices of inferior flesh to propitiate the Machine Spirits. Advise all such commanders to administer remedial training through percussive maintenance in accordance with Holy Primer 9-2350-294-10.
Army math.
I'm thrilled that it has only taken the Army 33 years to field a Bradley without a turret.
Probably somehow cost 2-3x more too lmao
"A Guy up on top with a flex mount and a big grin on his face" "User Community... you are wrong. Reverse that." "And they're designed to be worn with body armor?" You can always tell when someone has actually done the job in question.
My amusement while watching the Chieftan's body language when informed there's no A/C was enhanced by watching him have a stroke when told there's no boiling vessel. 😅😅😅😅
You'd think will how much bigger AMPV is than a M113, they could have found a bit of space for both of those.
I don't think it was him saying there wasn't A/C or a boiling vessel, more him saying "The user community told us they didn't need them". I 100% call BS that they found any crewman that said they didn't want A/C or hot water in their vehicle.
@@jarink1 Considering they found room for both in the Stryker there is no excuse here.
@@Ravnican127 I love how they still give the vehicle desert paint scheme yet can still tell everyone that there's no A/C with a straight face.
The moment he had that reaction I went hunting the comments to see who else saw it. 🤣 I thought he was about to rage at that news.
"And the m113 was created, god looked upon it and said it was good" is now one of my favorite Chieftain quotes! :D
Interesting vid, it's neat to see something brand new like that and hear the PM explain the reasoning behind the various features.
It's still crazy how old this brand new system is.
Just wanted to point out, that while common parts between vehicle models can save a lot of money, the budget is always just what it is, and even if everything is cheaper, the priority for replacement parts will always go to the maneuver battalions before the support units, and when funding gets tight, it's the vehicles of the support units that will be sitting deadlined because their parts requests keep getting denied.
I remember talking with a US Army combat engineer in the mid 2000s and he mentions getting a look at the early turretless Bradley as it was being proposed by BAE. It was being shown off as a medical variant, but he mentioned looking at all the space inside with envy, imagining all the stuff he could store away in there.
He is now long since retired. Kind of amazing to think how long it is taking to get this vehicle into service, since it is based off of something already in service.
They had to wait until the cabal of retired Generals could figure out how they can make the most money post retirement from the project.
@@cvr527 Okay Mr. Burton, go back to bed
@@72virginians41 States the idiot who fully supports endemic government corruption.
Btw, why are you hiding behind a pseudonym?
Dont have the courage to stand behind your convictions?
I mean, he’s not entirely wrong…
Be more accurate to say not *just* general, but also CSM’s, and Lt. COL and above. Generally they hire the E-7-9 guys to tell them all the ways they’ve screwed up, and the officers to think of ways they can screw it up and prolong the trials. Sure, we rag on the retirees that go contract for needlessly causing delays just to pad their pockets, but there’s some truth to it. Several have even gone to jail over it.
The M113 is trash. We will see how this goes, but it seems crazy to think it is 2023 and only Fort Stewart has these so far. Even more strange to think that this is essentially 1980s technology and we cannot produce it fast enough to field all 11 Active Duty ABCTs not to mention the Guard brigades.
Interesting footnote on M113 replacement history ... of course the original M113 replacement was the Bradley (infantry APC to infantry fighting vehicle). But for support vehicles, the Armored Systems Modernization program in the '90s had some replacement platforms for the M113: the M4 Command and Control vehicle (on an M993 carrier chassis), and the XM11 Bradley Ambulance (on an M2A2 chassis). Those programs were terminated in the 1999-2001 timeframe to fund Stryker and Future Combat System. The M4s did serve in the 3ID command post for the initial Iraq invasion and one of the specific command vehicles is a monument at Fort Stewart. There were still ongoing minor M113 upgrades in process when that activity was terminated in 2007 (again, FCS). But s=once FCS was terminated and it became obvious we needed a new replacement for M113 the Office of the Secretary of Defense finally green-lighted the AMPV program in 2012.
I always wondered what happened to the other M4s after the invasion
I recall seeing an M4 in Iraq 2004. Took me forever to figure out what I was looking at. There is an XM11 near me in Ft Sam, I really must take the time to swing by and see what sort of condition it's in.
All of those support vehicles based on the Bradley-derived M270 chassis would have been neat.
Gotta admit, the FCS had the right idea, make everything on the same chassis.
I get why they were trying to keep it C-130 transportable, but the APS just weren't there yet. They might not even be there now...
It’s always a good idea but the last time it was done and done well was the M3/M4 Medium tank becoming almost everything.
The biggest problem the 113s our XOs, mortars and medics use is just maintenance. It’s really hard to get parts and they break constantly so the OR rate is embarrassingly low. Also they spontaneously burst into flames with alarming regularity
Stewart has been testing these this year and dudes say great stuff about them.
The M1068s that we used in MLRS often went about 4 MPH, it was faster to tow them than to drive them.
Good riddance.
"It's not going to be Bradley Jr." lol. He was so disgusted when he said that! lol
Funny he mentioned the m113's lack of force protection, in Afghanistan the Danish army used m113's untill they leased mraps of the US. It was very common to sit on top or stand inside sticking out the top rather than sit inside, to minimise the chance of getting crushed by the floor in a case of an IED contact.
Lack of protection and M113 is a very common statement.
Even in Vietnam, troops preferred to ride atop the 113s because getting trapped in an aluminum box that's on fire is not fun.
@@classifiedad1 yeah the battle taxi in the Modern Age even going into Vietnam wasn't the best idea especially when it was just a box on tracks
@@clonescope2433 Welp. It wasn't made to stop explosives, only to stop some bullet sizes.
@@thejugernautkiller390 It didn’t even stop armor piercing bullets.
@@clonescope2433 In any case, the M113 proved the need for proper IFVs because that’s basically what they were used as, with additional weapons and protection in the form of gun shields, a pair of M60s out the top of the troop compartment, and an open-topped turret conceptually similar to that on Humvees in Iraq.
Though main issue with M113’s armor in Vietnam was the lack of mine protection, which was addressed with add-on belly armor.
“User community” just sounds like a euphemism senior NCOS and Officers that are out of touch with the soldiers that actually have to live with and in the vehicle for operations.
Even Army terminology sounds like millennial zoomer talk now, LoL! Maybe they are keeping up with the times.
Well since it’s a command vehicle it’s going to pretty much Senior NCO and officers using it.
@@thomasstevenhebert True but there's also medical and general transport variants
@@neurofiedyamato8763 but those vehicles are differently configured. Ie the medical variant has an Air con.
I’m not saying it wise decision just the reality. I would guess we will see one slapped on as well as aux generator.
If it actually has 120 available, there is no reason for a BV, troops will bring a coffee pot or other equipment. Most military vehicles don’t have a BV
They ride a humvee out after the the pvts do set up
No user community said that. They didn't want to pay the cost to maintain it most likely.
How expensive is a boiling vessel anyways? 20 bucks at best?
No APU, doesn't look spacious enough to stand up straight while inside, no AC, hellish maintenance, heavy af and no water heater.
I'll keep my M577 CPC, DoD can fuck right off with this one
The Chieftain standing next to LTC Costa looks like Gandalf standing next to Frodo. I keep trying to spot how it was done... was the AMPV built in forced perspective?
The chieftain is the largest tanker that ever was
He made up for the short stature with his overwhelming passion for the project!
Costa is armor-sized...
Dwarfs are are expert armor makers
I commanded a M113 FISTV at Ft Irwin for one of the first training sessions using Abrams and Bradley’s in ‘85. The M1 company commander came across the radio with an “expedite” command across some severe washboard terrain. We did our best the keep up, but the ride was so harsh one of my guys got motion sick, and we were hundreds of meters behind quickly.
A replacement for the M113 family of vehicles is long overdue.
As much as I loved the 113 (we had the A3s) as a Scout vehicle, the Bradley definitely had a better ride across country. On a hardball the 113A3 could beat the Bradley in a drag race, though not by much.....allegedly. ;)
I see an MPF there :-)
Btw no boiling vessel, no AC, no rear camera and same old powertrain...
It’s not a real command variant if the commander can’t make his coffee in the field.
Wire a pot to the generator
We rolled up into Baghdad in our M113A2's back in May 2003. We went out daily in the tracks looking for and destroying UXOs. We never had much issue with ours except for some parts shortages while the supply lines were being consolidated. Thankfully the Iraqis had some M113's that they no longer needed so we stripped parts off theirs to keep ours running. We only really had an issue when the added slat and cage armor was applied. Too much weight, it would actually bend the road arms on the suspension and we could no longer hit the governed max speed of 45 MPH.
Back in 07 I got put in charge of wiring up sirens and a *few* Bunn coffee pots in different strykers. My 1sg liked me alot after I did his, became his driver afterwards. E4 Mafia always finds a way.
Interestingly I only learned about the AMPV program just yesterday. And coincidentally, you immediately make a video on it.
i cant wait. in 40 years bovington is going to do a tank chat after a long historical deploynment
I’m surprised those wire cutters aren’t standard in every armored rifle in the US army tbh. My head’s been saved by one a few times before. Not just with wires but low hanging branches too.
Edit: I’m also surprised energy attenuating seats are not standard across the board in the army. No matter how much armor you got, crew and dismounts are still squishy in a dynamic event. I remember when moving from an ABCT to an SBCT and being surprised by how though out even the seats are (at least on the new DVH A1s I now roll with so idk if that’s been rectified on newer variants sitting in those ABCT motor pools.)
It's less surprising when you consider when most of the vehicles were designed, and how long it takes for even minor upgrades like that to make it through testing. And it may have ended up that for one reason or another those seats can't be retrofitted into older vehicles without issues. Or they're slated for introduction but only as part of a larger upgrade package. So there's a mountain of seats in a warehouse waiting to be installed when the vehicles go through Lima and Anniston.
That left side storage rack will last about 10 min in a wooded area. Oh my one on the right to.😀
I want to know which "end user" said that we don't need AC inside.
Did I miss any talk about a back up generator like the one on the M577. Was hard to catch all of the discussion as the audio was up and down. Not blaming anyone for that of course. No boiling vessel, wow. I can see the Chieftain telling some private to fire up the privately supplied electric kettle in the morning now. 😁
I don't think they mentioned a back up generator or donkey engine at all.
Which is odd as a APU has been in high demand since WW2 on every armored vehicle.
Ive been by the Lima tank factory. They put Christmas lights on the tank out front for the holidays. I also have heard that some folk unlucky enough to be working outside on nearby properties got a surprise visit from the Secret Service wondering what they were doing there when the President visited the factory.
What was the "user community" smoking when they decided against AC and coffee pot?
I suspect that everyone they interviewed never went to Iraq or even had a rotation at NTC in the summer. Or an Alaska/Korea winter rotation!
Holy moly what would the lifespan of those stowage racks be 😂. That’s absurd. A nice smooth hull side topped with fragile sheet metal racks. They will be instantly sacrificed to the hide gods. There are a million trees across Army training centres screaming “YOU. SHALL. NOT. PASS!”
Excellent. I was trying to figure out how one replaces/improves on the 113 family. It's like improving a cardboard box or building a better mousetrap. But in this case, I can see it. Simplified logistics and training would make it worthwhile.
But they are also replacing the Bradley with a new vehicle... So, no. Not really.
Better drive train. Most obviously faster.
but still not an MRAP....
Glad we are getting this as we look for the Bradley replacement
SMMF H
Thanks for another great show. I'm surprised there aren't missile variants (AT, AA, anti-drone appears important via the Ukraine war).
AT is covered already with the tow missile mounted on the Bradley and as for aa and anti drone the 25mm with proxy rounds could target low flying arial targets along with the fact that the army could bring back the linebacker variant if they really needed short aa capabilities.
This isn't meant to be a Frontline combat vehicle. It's a support vehicle.
Also the dismounts can be equipment with stingers, which they are supposed to.
M2 and M3s have TOW missiles and the M6 Linebackers have the AA capability with a Stinger pod in place of the TOW.
@@strykerk992
Proxy 25 is not fielded on Bradley afaik.
So, is there a FAC/JTAC variant in the works? *LTC Costa rolls eyes* Always good to see an Arctic Wolf still Active Duty! 172nd SBCT had some Stryker CV's modified for the Air Force JTAC's (with AFATAD's for the Field Artillery as well). Having operated out of the M113A2 and A3 when I was at Ft. Riley, this looks like a superior ride and replacement for Armored, Mech, and Cav forces. Especially if they square away their Air Force JTAC's and ALO's with these (not that I'm biased or anything being an Air Force TACP combat veteran or anything...).
What REMF decided no boiling vessel or coffee maker. Every TOC I have seen runs on Diesel, MoGas,and Coffee. No environmental control, heat kills computers and soldiers
Got a good chuckle seeing that they are both at the same distance from the camera (more or less) yet the Chieftain looks like he is several feet closer.
That pencil pusher will never ride one of those into combat, hence no ac or coffee pot. It is perfectly acceptable for men to get heat stroke and eat cold food. Honestly I wouldn't have been surprised at all if he said crews didn't want heaters in them too. I bet we could shave a few pounds by using thinner armor too.
@Chieftain thank you for the video.
I hope the MOD take a long hard look at this vehicle before ordering Ares. Doubling down on the mistakes of Ajax would be a very silly idea.
Here's one for the senior NCOs in the audience. When do two half colonels add up to a full one?
When they're kissing arse?
Chieftain, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've read from two sources that the Army intends to push this vehicle down to the Company Level, ie.. essentially, mech inf company commanders. My sources may be wrong, but I think this is a big mistake, for a variety of reasons, one of the biggest is eliminating a fully gunned Bradley from the mix. I frequently tasked my Bradley to the XO, to use it to fight as a section with good success. I know that was old school Task Org, but it worked well.
The 1SG has an M113 right now. A Cav troop currently also has the M1064s which the AMPV will replace.
At one time the old tank plant was being used a area for an integrator (DCT) to work on development of assembly lines that they did not have room for in there other building. I was there a few times when I was field service engineer with a industrial Robot company. that was in the late 1990's, so not sure what has happened since.
How can you tell it's a XXI century vehicle? It has USB and Ethernet ports at the rear 😄
Haha. 3 miesiące temu kupiłem motor Romet 125cc. Prosta maszyna wyglądem nawiązująca trochę do komunistycznej WSKi. Nie ma żadnych uchwytów na telefon, ale wtyk USB jest w standardzie.
At least they went for USB. For once the US government was faster than some civilian companies....... Apple.
But No solar panels or wind turbine? 😀Cheers!
but still no a/c 🤣
@@captianmorgan7627 USB is hopelessly outdated and simply doesn’t have the bandwidth for large amounts of data transfer on the battlefield which should be fast.
Really looks like a vehicle that has gone through years of war on terror upgrades, before it is delivered. A bit fallen out of time in 2022, but I have no doubts that it will be useful
Finally, the bradley is being used as a dedicated APC. Good though cause you can use the same training and equipment to operate and maintain it.
If you count 6 men and a crew-served weapon as an 'APC'.
@@GoranXII ...yes? Why wouldn't you?
@@BeKindToBirds because it's actually an IFV. The M113 (an actual APC) is less than half the weight, but carries twice or more the number of men.
TRhis thing has so much kit bolted on top of it. it's insane. I fucking love it.
edit: No bevvy? NOOOOOOOOOOO!
The AMPV looks like basically the M113 on steroids. It reminds me of the Rhino from Warhammer 40k, used to transport the superhuman Space Marines! (Ironically inspired by the M113) It's just unbelievably massive. I feel like it's going way beyond it's purpose of replacing the M113. I know a lot of people complain about the armor and such on the M113, but it was simple. It was a lightly armored box that could swim, transport soldiers and evacuate the wounded. The AMPV is just a monster. A huge, heavy target that's lacking any weapons. I'm not sure it's a good choice tbh.
No AC OR Boiling Vessel? Seems like trash for anything but relatively cool plains.
I drove a m577 in a couple of postings but this looks like more fun.
You know what would go great in those empty racks for the WIN-T server? A boiling vessel.
Cheaper too!
Man can't wait to get rid of my 1068, probably be a few years until we get them though. For reference AFATDS is the Advanced Field Artillery Tactical Data System, in Ye Olden Days of FATDS, it was a specially designed computer system, now days its just a software program run on a semi-commercial ruggedized laptop.
THEY NEED A SHORAD VERSION. One with the MSHORAD TURRET, another with aim-120, and APS all around.
Make ADATS a Thing Again!
YOU GOT YOUR AHORAD STRYKER AND YOU WILL LIKE IT YOUNG MAN.
They should add a turret with a big machine gun on it, like a 25mm. And maybe missiles to take down tanks, Maybe a Tow launcher. With enough ammunition to last multiple engagements or destroy half of Washington.
@@SleepySkull1 Dude they could even name it after a famous American General.
@@derkaiser9881 just as long as they don't name it after a sergeant again
My old unit was testing these. We had to wear a special badge just to get in the motorpool.
113's needed to be replaced in Vietnam. Glad they finally did it.. military driving qualification is way too simplified. The first time I ever drove was in the military and I had no clue what I was doing. They should put in a part where you have to get out and fight your TC. Also glad the armies thinking about power lines.. we pissed off a lot of Iraqi's, but then again that's what they get for putting their power lines 20 feet off the ground. After that we knew exactly why they were trying to blow us up.
His disappointment at the user community over the boiling vessel 😅
I love how upset Chieftain is about the missing coffee pot! ☕ That is a serious design flaw! (I suppose Gen-Z wants every cup of coffee made to order 😂but I dont think they are going to have room for that Keurig and a case of pods!)
In the Strykers, the typical field fix was to pull the CBRN filter container entirely, and put the coffee pot and stereo there.
The thing is, the BV can used to cook food too, so the crew could have a hot drink and meal.
given BAE design it's a shame they couldn't fit a BV!
What I find is that at least one crew in a tank platoon will bring along a JetBoil or simply cook any cans they have on the exhaust if the vehicle's been running or is in a charging cycle. I'd very much prefer the return of a boiling vessel of course. It's a good way to stay busy and awake on guard
@@theginger7148 not to mention that the best (and probably safest) way to wake up the first sergeant is to hand him coffee.
I am sorry if this is available anywhere but in the video about the M56 you did not include the results for the "oh bugger the tank is on fire test" I am curious as to how well it did but havent been able to find any information on it
Hopefully the Army bought the data rights for this thing as part of the procurement.
Hopefully the wire guard hoops are insulated or made of fiberglass. During one of the REFORGER exercises while I was in Germany (mid-80's) the Army had a M113 crew forget to lower their antenna before crossing an electrified rail line and everyone inside was killed.
You'll think It would be insulated from the ground but nah...
During a training exercise in the early 1970s, I saw an LVTP-5 command vehicle crossing a road that had its radio antennas contact overhead power lines. No one was hurt, but the radios were destroyed.
"Bradley junior" sounds like a Bradley IFV but it is the size of a Wiesel AWC. 😆
There should be an MGS variant using the turret from the MGS Stryker, creating a great export FSV along with the other variants .
Nope, the Stryker (The size of a school bus) needs to 100% go away. Having a few, smaller armored cars can make sense in some situations, but for combat, tracks are the way to go. The MGS was a 100% failure and has been withdrawn from service. The Army is in the process of buying actual light tanks, around 500 or so, that will equip airborne units and others.
Am I missing something? The 4.2 mortar tracks we had in our combat support company back in the seventies had the mortar set up inside and did not have to exit the vehicle to fire.
They don't need to be dismounted now either, but they can be. You will see that 1064s carry the baseplate on the side of the vehicle for such eventualities
the mortar variant is almost identical to the old one (turntable is the same also)
And we have a fully automatic 110mm mortar in a fully rotating turret here in Poland. Can even provide direct fire. Maybe US Army will find it proper to obtain sth really modern. 😎
@@tommygun333 question what difference does it make if it's automatic or not when talking about a mortar?
@@thejugernautkiller390 120mm mortar shells weigh about 15kg a pop. Having them automatically loaded would be a huge plus.
Good to see a Redleg! 13Bravo here! Slainte!
Omg....The User Community is wrong! 🤣
Good thing they retained a roof hatch, I'd hate to evacuate out the rear if both the fuel tanks were burning... you'd think maybe they'd have some kind of a fire suppression system, or maybe engineer them so the fire burns outward instead of towards the door?
I did notice an emergency fire suppression trigger switch early on.
@The Chieftain I am surprised to see this new vehicle painted in desert tan. I would have thought that the pivot to near peer adversaries would have meant a move to a temperate paint scheme. Separately but related, many western militaries have moved to variants of MultiCam for soldier uniforms. Why have none of these militaries adopted a larger-scaled version of MultiCam on their vehicles?
At the end of the war in Europe, the Germans painted most of their vehicles in a base tan color and the crews would camo over it, based on local foliage and the seasons. Heck, the Army finally allows some soldiers to paint their rifles in camo. Miracles do happen, LOL.
thanks - great info - looks like a great vehicle
Couldn't they find a soldier that's in the same scale as Nicholas?... 😁😁😁
still don't know why a man that tall decided "I'm gonna be an Armor Officer, where head-room and leg-room doesn't exist"
@@MisterW0lfe Yes but remember he’s in American tanks, so they have features like head and leg room.
In Armour? Not likely.
@@903lew That came up in the Austrian tank museum video, the M60 being a lot roomiers than the Leaopard 2 that replaced it in Austrian service. Those vids had particulary ropey audio
@@903lew But this is an American tank, and American tanks are roomy.
It's much better than the toaster oven can they incorporate the V shape haul or is that only on small wheeled armored vehicles
Nick here looking like a Primaris Marine with his truescale next to LTC Costa
New chieftain-ism: User community you are wrong, reverse that!
This looks fantastic
It is interesting how AMPV's product manager seems to understand less of the vehicle than the chieftain itself. The same happened in the video about the MPF platform.
It’s not surprising.
He’s a project manager, not a designer.
His job is to make sure everyone gets their jobs done in a timely and efficient manner, not to micromanage everyone’s job.
He undoubtedly knows a lot and has been in countless meetings talking tech, but it’s not his job to memorize it all or understand it past what he needs to to ensure proper delivery.
No BV!? NO! B! V!??!
Live with it. I had a multi fuel stove in my ruck for 25 years (still do, the ruck and stove followed me into retirement. Next thing, you'll want AC
Being more survivable than a M113 NATO shoe box is not _that_ high a bar to clear.
Yeah. Saw footage where one was machinegunned with KPVT.
@@Pechenegus Not surprising. It's only armored all round against 7.62mm rounds and artillery fragmentation. For something meant to transport troops to the battle and then drive away it's fine. When it's pressed into other roles is where you see the shortcomings.
Most American vehicles are garbage
@@chaosXP3RT Em... No?..
I actually get angry when I see Ukrainians tooling around in them on the battlefield. NATO countries are too cowardly to provide Ukraine with actual NATO IFVs or MBTs, but they COULDN'T WAIT to pawn their dog shit M113's off on the poor Ukrainians and then act like they did something "heroic" by donating "hundreds of M113s". Any modern NATO MRAP is dramatically more survivable than an M113 is. Hell, an armored Humvee is probably more survivable than an M113.
Funnily enough, just a few days ago a video was posted online of a Ukrainian armored Humvee running over a landmine. EVERYONE inside the Humvee survived. They survived because they were moving very quickly through the field and when they ran over the mine, they were going fast enough that the explosion didn't trigger until the mine was basically under the rear bed of the Humvee.
It blew the entire back end of the Humvee off, but the crew compartment appeared to remain totally intact, and four of the five occupants bugged out and set up defensive positions around the Humvee, while the driver or rear left passenger was laying on the ground but was moving around. Everyone definitely survived the initial explosion, and it appeared that only one guy suffered ANY injuries at all. I was suitably impressed.
But had they been tooling around in an M113 instead, they'd probably all be dead. Honestly, I get worked up thinking about how cowardly and incompetent "the west" has been in regards to Ukraine. I get especially infuriated when I see Ukraine begging for more equipment and I think about all of the armored Humvees and MRAPs that Dementia Joe Biden GAVE TO THE FVCKING TALIBAN a year ago.
I get worked up into a rage just thinking about a bunch of fvcking Muslim terrorists driving around Afghanistan in AMERICAN ARMORED VEHICLES and using them to murder Afghani civilians with American machine guns while wearing American uniforms, comms and body armor. Every single piece of equipment that Dementia Joe gave to the Taliban could've gone to Ukraine instead. HUNDREDS of MRAPs and armored Humvees and God only knows what else. Instead, we are shipping Ukraine a bunch of borderline worthless M113s. Basically big metal coffins.
Cool Video. These need 50 BMG remote weapon stations with thermals. We can afford it and it will save lives.
Boiling vessels? Where’s the 4 Duce? I used to put my canteen cup on the generator. Back in the day when we had 1/4 tons the commander told is driver to never let his eyes off the jerrycan when he stopped by my FDC.
LOL " this is a command vehicle, you need coffee " .. nail, squarely hit 🙂
How many troops can this thing carry? I'm readying it can only carry 6 troops, but appears to be double the size of the M113 which carried 11? How does that work out?
Did LTC Costa indicate how far we are from upgrading this to the Land Raider Crusader?
Still a long way off from Power Armored dismounts though 😢
It must be strange for Pvt. Snuffateli when the guy walking around in civvies, asking to see obscure or obsolete vehicles, in a shall-we-say nonstandard accent, turns out to be an officer.
Why not just make an optional BV instead of arguing whether or not to have one in the vehicle? Those who don't want it can just not take it. Those who do want it wouldn't need to worry about a commercial kettle that may start flying around in the compartment when they move.
Tell me mother army never touched you without telling me northern army never touched you.
Having many different types of vehicles could cause logistical issues.
@@thejugernautkiller390 I'm not talking about different vehicles. I mean a boiling vessel that you can stick in whatever vehicle you want.
I suppose with this thing in development there's not enough money left for my scout?
Do they still have the banked test track? I was there in 1980ish. They had an Abrams doing laps approx 70mph (??) ungoverned I was told.
When will they fulfill the requirement for an Mobile Protected Fridge system?
Have you looked into going since this with current and former tank or other tracked armored vehicle driver or riders to talk about this and so maybe making water heating systems a locked in requirement ordering every factory to leave space for these things?
Outlets for your own microwave and Mr. Coffee.
No boiling vessel but outlets for your coffee maker and microwave oven.
Understandably, there is no "oh bugger, the apc is on fire."
Wrong....there is a AFES system for the interior. Separate systems for crew and engine compartments....
Hahaha, no b/s coffee maker!
Doesn't seem like a bad vehicle, but it seems like something from 30 years ago aside from the communications equipment, which I guess is really what matters
to be fair, this vehicle would have come about 30 years ago had the Cold War not ended and then we had the Peace dividend and the War on Terror, so, myeah
Its interesting that there are no Recovery or Maintenance variants like the M579 or M806. Does the US Army have another vehicle that does this role for mechanised units other than the M88?
Where's that track tensioner! 😁 OK, now we know it's real.
They could have provided a better SME for the vehicle vs. the PM, who appeared out of his element.
Yeah, his PR training needs some refreshing
@@LOLHAMMER45678 I can forgive the guy. Public speaking isn't something everyone is good at or capable of. I do think they should've provided a guy who acted as the TC for the vehicle during testing, if such a person exists and hasn't rotated to some other duty by now.
@@ashesofempires04 no offense, but I’m throwing the BS card on your comment. I’ve went through every officer professional development course the Army required except for the War College, up to 2004 when I retired and every one of them emphasized giving briefings. Being an articulate, organized communicator is absolutely necessary to successfully lead troops. This inarticulate LTC couldn’t say shit with a mouthful. I suspect that he has allowed himself, or was pushed aside by, a bunch of DA civilians who have been running the program since it was started and he is just a figurehead who signs off whatever paperwork that he is handed while getting lots of family time and time to update his resume while attending “life after the Army” workshops, prior to gliding toward retirement. He completely lacked any enthusiasm and should have been able to reel off every non classified fact there is about that vehicle. He is the SME for that vehicle, but instead seemed very tentative about it. If he were briefings a general officer or (god forbid, a congressman) he would rightly had his third point of contact forcibly separated from his anatomy.
This Frankestein bolt-on armor and helipad... plus the jesus bolts for the engineer that was confident enough he had put in enough bolts.
From tank history to tank future - apc future
I would NEVER be able to remember all the changed acronyms
And with all that, I still didn't hear anything for Ordnance... again... (sigh) so again it will be up to the local Ordnance commanders to build on the Universal (but nothing permanent) fitting such as bult in APU/hydraulic/electrical/welding/Oxy Acetylene/tool storage/hoist lift and such. As well as a way of moving power-packs forward.
You people have contact trucks and wreckers for a reason, not to mention those ungodly allied trades trailers.
McDonalds getting into defense manufacturing was not on my 2023 Bingo chart.
How many times have they reolaced the m113 now?
From the infantry phone on the tank to the ethernet connection =D
I love how it's got USB-A ports in 2022, when USB-C has been a thing for a decade. Never change, Army. Never Change.
@@ashesofempires04 ; I personally like the USB-A connector more, do they at-least run version 3.0?
@@ashesofempires04 isn't usb A the one that connects my charging cable to my plug or PC? Wouldn't I be able to connect either a laptop, an old smartphone, a new smartphone into those ports?
@@ashesofempires04 Wouldn't worry too much most of the software it's going to be using is Windows 98 era anyway, XP if they're lucky!
If I'm honest, AMPVEE already sounds fairly iconic, being similar to the HUMVEE. I wouldn't be slightly surprised if that just stuck.
I am somewhat surprised that the vehicle's main fuel is external, positioned right next to the main egress. I understand this is not a frontline vehicle and that modern military-grade ground vehicle fuels are less flammable than gasoline, but still...I suppose in any event, one compromised tank or even both would not prevent them from scooting far enough to get away from the fire and then escape the vehicle if necessary.
Latter model M113’s had external fuel tanks added outside the ramp just like this one.
The fuel won't just randomly light up. You need oxygen in the tanks which there won't be unless enough fuel was leaked out and then you hit it with incendiary munition.
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"It's a command vehicle! You NEED coffee!"