Big thanks to the Chieftain (Nicholas Moran) for his help and input into this episode - please check out his channel: th-cam.com/users/TheChieftainsHatch I'd also like to say thanks also to returning sponsor Ground News, who have been recurring supporters of the channel: Compare news coverage from diverse sources around the world on a transparent platform driven by data. ground.news/perun Ground news sponsorships have previously allowed me to donate to relief efforts in Ukraine - and I'll announce a new round of donations next week as voted by patrons. Finally, thanks to everyone for understanding why I am not doing any coverage of Russian mobilisation until next week - your understanding of the fact it takes me time to gather and verify information is always very much appreciated.
Just a little help with Irish names. 'Moran' should be pronounced M(o)ran, instead of 'Morran'. It can equally be said 'More-an', but is never (afaik) said like 'sporran'. I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to pronounce my surname (Suibhne). (And just in case you thought I'm being a bit of a dick, 'Onbedoelde Kut' is a cheeky translation of 'unintentional cunt' into Dutch)! (I'm not Dutch).
~50% of the number of your global subscribers have watched the video in the 1st 6 hours. 10% of those left a thumbs up, 5% commented. These are the best figures I‘ve seen on any channel, ever, yet you deserve more. Wish you all the best and thanks for the amazing content!
Glad I'm not the only one who looks at these numbers - I do try and feed the algorithm by adding relevant(ish) comments. ... and yes Perun deserves these figures (or more).
@@andrewharrison8436 I think its because (speaking for myself) breaking things down on a logistics level hlps me feel less fearful of the unknown and though no less horrific even the worst problems are best solved with a calm mind. His pre-loaded disclosures and well defined parameters or qualifications make a vague topic seem less scary. Plus, good voice and most of razor sharp deadpan humor cuts and Private Konskriptovich jokes.
@@michaelrowave I’ve been seeing people commenting on other Ukraine channels with the terms “Pvt Konscriptovich and General Oligarchov, etc..😂😂😂 and tons of viewers know exactly where it’s from and credit Perun! We could call the, Perun-isms? 😂❤
Excellent video and as a Slav with a little farmer background I was hysterically laughing at the ''are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow the tank away" sentence, well done!
The best part about Slavs is that you can make totally inappropriate jokes about their stereotypes, and they just laugh and nod! Stay proud guys! Stay proud!
Say what you want about Wargaming, I'm grateful that they gave The Chieftain his job and funded his research. He's a godsend to the tank enthusiast and segments of the military history communities.
I have, overall, a highly negative opinion of the direction their games have gone in the past several years. However, them pulling out of Russia, moving their offices, etc. that they did at the start of the conflict got a lot of respect from me.
Aweseome video, and well-used collab!!! Also: "Poland is pusing for a multi-national repair hub" - I kind of get the feeling that what Poland wants is to go to St. Petersburg, but must content itself with doing everything they can short of that!
@@barrybolton1396 the Poles were on a shopping spree recently and got themselves quite an impressive arsenal (once it is produced and/or delivered). wonder what they have in mind with so many weapons...
After hearing the Cheiftan talk about the first level of recovery being "DIY" for the crew I cannot stress enough how much hard training experience is required to make a good crew. When in Poland (as an American) they often complained our equipment was broken and dirty for public displays. Truth be told, I always hated that sentiment because each flake of paint missing was a lesson our crew learned putting in hard hours in the field, not neglect (the Poles have shiny display equipment for parades only). Being able to see an malfunction and go "get me a wrench, an aiming pole, and a sledge hammer" is something you can't teach in any manual. Hard earned experience and strict adherence to BII layouts honestly makes me think that in a fair fight with equal numbers, an American unit would beat a Russian unit, equipment differences be damned. Best to learn the nuances of your equipment on the training fields than to try and learn the tricks of the trade as a 155mm round flies into your position. It looks as though instead of gardening for a General or driving in patriotic displays the Russians should have laundered some money into better war game exercises and breaking some equipment so they don't die when the games become real.
On the other hand my friend who is currently serving in polish army told that nobody earn as much respect in his eyes as technical crews responsible for maintenance of stored equipment. T-72s (MBT) or just Star 266s (medium truck) are more than 50 years old and with means of storing under low humidity and frequent checks given the amount of work these vehicles done, their status is strikingly good. What's most impressive is that all that seems to be on a really, really tight budget. I have no Idea about American procedures in that field but seeing Russian trucks with busted tires due to them being poorly maintained showed me how important that work really is. I don't know about DIY side of this though
@@juliuszkocinski7478 please do not get me wrong, I'm not bashing on the Poles at all. It just rubbed me wrong when they acted like we were just going to produce perfect painted units out of thin air like I just had a [vehicle] chilling in my back pocket. They train hard too. I was just pointing out what happens when you let the equipment degrade, to a point the crews skill will degrade with it. Not doing those simple easy maintenence tasks may have had big trickle down effects that cost Russian lives.
Something of this sort came to my mind as well. From a German perspective i'm afraid of the level of bureaucracy that might be involved in training with heavy equipment. What actually happens when a Leopard get stuck during exercise? Will the crew call it a day and leave it for the -Biber- Büffel to handle or is this a advanced work-group meeting? Because, from my short experience in logistics, its mostly: "You're not supposed to tinker/deal with this!" Edit: Wrong tank 🤐
@@DrKlausTrophobie Good question honestly. I wonder that as well. I know our nations train together often, but both face material shortcomings, lack of personnel and funding. There is lots of footage though of the 1st Panzer Division training, wherein often the Buffel can be spotted towing the Leos away. I think the combat engineers are one of the few units left that have enough material.
So as a former Bradley mechanic and recovery operator. I have to say there are so many variables that can happen during these missions. And even if the recovery missions just towing back a broke down vehicle. You then have to troubleshoot why the vehicle broke down. Depending on if you have parts or can get parts quickly that vehicle will be returned to missions fairly soon. But if you know there won't be parts for a while but another vehicle is awaiting another part that can be swapped over from the long term deadline vehicle then it often makes combat power sense to do the swap and just order now 2 parts for the donor vehicle. The big problem comes when you get swamped with broken down vehicles all needing parts and your donor vehicle is now a convenient solution to get your platoons back up and running. But now your donor vehicle is looking pretty rough and has a parts on order list 3 miles long lol. You can sometimes end up just writing that vehicle off and it gets sent to a depot rebuild. This situation happens with the US military even with our great logistics systems. So you can imagine how much Ukraine is cannibalizing tanks and infantry vehicles just to keep them running. Or being forced to turn a blind eye to certain things no longer working right. But if it still moves and shoots then they have to send it. Capturing Russian tanks and equipment doesn't mean Ukraine instantly has new tanks. As we have seen so far. The Russians are kinda shit with supplies and vehicle maintenance. So Capturing a Russian tank could easily just mean free parts donors instead for vehicles Ukraine already have.
“Given n vehicles needing m parts each on parts list p, all of which are interchangeable, determine the part swaps that should be performed to minimize 1) the number of parts needed per vehicle and 2) the number of vehicles needing a parts order of any size.”
“Additional constraint: parts list p has a paired table t with lead times of all parts. Minimize total lead time for any parts list generated.” I realize this whole problem is probably under-constrained but it’s fun to think about feeding this into a quantum computer and it spitting out an incomprehensible work order that somehow works amazingly well.
Welcome to the Marine Armored Training Center. There are 19 major systems in this Marine Armored Personnel Carrier (Bradley AFV), and over 25 thousand moving parts. In the next 8 months, you will learn ALL OF THEM. When you are done here, you'll be able to park that vehicle on top of an enemy position, and blow the shit out of them. It's MY job to get YOUR shit in order, it's YOUR job to shut the f up, and learn. - Some quote I heard long ago.
I’m literally saving this episode for a time when I’m not going to be interrupted or distracted. Who knew that logistical analytics was a rabbit hole I needed in my life!?!
Yeah, same. I first got interested in the logistics side when an American maintenance guy pointed out on a news network segment the Russian tyres on expensive equipment were cheapo's made in China. That led to Perun's video on corruption in the military, and I've been hooked since. As the Generals say: "Amateurs talk about strategy and tactics. Professionals talk about logistics and sustainability in warfare."
As a maintainer, and former tank repair shop supervisor, I agree. Especially some of the differences between countries. The expedient repairs and cannibalisation was something I become a master of when overseas, lol.
Just wanted to add that there is also a repair factory in Moldava nad Bodvou in Slovakia. 100 km away from Uzhorod which is also helping with repairing Ukrainian armored vehicles. The second one is in Trenčín, probably also providing repairs (its reachable by train from UE).
Hi Perun - As a half-Bulgarian/half-Ukranian it has been agonizing to watch how little on the surface the Bulgarian government and industry have been doing to help Ukraine. When you mentioned you will "call out Bulgaria" I was so certain what would follow would be 5 minutes of methodically ripping into the weird inadequacy of our stance of support and equipment. So - thank you for actually informing on something positive. Unfortunately due to the devastating effect of hybrid russian influence in our media and political space and the effect it has had over our society, currently the winning political move is to more or less stop short of straight up supporting Russia and "blaming NATO" - So the elections you mentioned are more or less expected with an impending sense of doom as it looks like the pro-russian euro-sceptic (straight up fascist) parties will be getting increased presence in the new parlament. PS: On the opposite end it has been hilarious to hear how our minister of economy (who also happened to be the leader of the pro-russian socialist party) is shouting at microphones "we are not supporting Ukraine!" while at the same time seeing train-loads of munition leave "for Poland" daily :D
As a Hungarian I can say politics gets really hard when 90% of your energy sector (not just gas and oil but nuclear as well) depends on your "enemy". At least Bulgaria has ports.
Yeah Senpai noticed us :). I would not be soo doomeristic about the elections however. Allmost all parties are pro Ukraine (with a few notable loud exceptions), even the obviously corrupt ones like GERB have pro-Ukraine stance, heck even the president made a 180 degree turn in the last few days... My impression is that some of our politicians are trying to play the old game "try not to piss off both sides", which now however does not work now at all. Now for the freaky nationalistic parties - just remember during the pro-ukrainan protests how many people they could gather... the pro-Ukrainian protest had orders of magnitude more people.The nationalists had to bring people from the countryside with busses. Some of which had no idea what they were protesting about when asked. SO do not freak out for the moment and go to vote :). For the weapon supplies... they seem pretty significant... after the government fell one former boss of one of the weapon factories threw in the press a number of around 4200 tons of weapons supplied for just the first 2 or 3 months of the war. Ironically he was fired by the same leader of the socialist party, also ironically chairwoman of the ... weapon export comitte... so her signature is on all of those exports for, allegedly, Poland that somehow end up in Ukraine :P. Those lines of supply btw started in 2014 since we were not supposed to export weapons in to open conflicts.
@@SittingOnEdgeman this getting back business is soo 20th century... Fortunately now a take back regime is currently smashing its head to pulp banging a brick wall. Tragically to the expense of millions. Sadly here in Hungary we have many idiots working in the take back propaganda business...
Thank you Bulgaria! Thank you Perun for another unique and fabulously informative presentation. LOVE the dry humor. Glory to the Ukrainian Tractor Brigade!
I remember the Chieftain referencing you months ago (Are tanks obsolete?) and I knew it was only a matter of time before an awesome collaboration like this happened. Thank you both for helping me stay informed in-depth!
It was actually the Chieftain's reference in that video that brought me here. Got to give it to Chris Moran, he is more than willing to shout out for people, and the more quality content we have on MilTube the better. Especially if different folks cover different aspects. New points of view and ways of looking at things are valuable if you want to gain a more balanced understanding of a situation or subject.
Really upsetting that some people here even made fun of Chieftain in his video calling him an "old dinosaur" simply because of his defense for the tank and didn't like the idea that someone else was offering to counter Perun's points.
You started going over farmers and their mechanical abilities and I had to laugh, because it's SO accurate. I'm from Kansas and every farmer that I know, knows their equipment intimately and can usually figure out what's wrong with it in a few hours at worst or a few minutes at best.
I am a zero-level noob when it comes to Perun's areas of expertise, but I just love this channel. Perun, you explain these complex topics so that even I can understand them, I learn something, AND you're entertaining. Thank you for your hard work!
Oh gosh - like others have said, these briefings (yes I do feel like a member of a general staff at times due to the quality of the work) are a high point of f my weekend and I simply can not thank You enough!
Man, I was worried with such a boring sounding topic, but you never fail to impress. Great job! "Expedient repairs, aka 'bodge job', ie: duct tape the armor back in place." Priceless.
These 'boring sounding topics' are really fascinating. Just like logistics... this is REALLY how to make an efficient army. Boom-boom stuff gets all the applause, but this is the truly fascinating stuff that gets an army where it can do that. I love it.
@@petertrudelljr Who would've thought that the "boring" topic of the things that really win wars ie economics supply and logistics could be so fascinating, Perun has a talent many professional teachers and instructors lack, to be able to impart knowledge with a little dash of humour to make it stick.
@perun kudos to you for keeping this really interesting. I care a lot about the situation in Ukraine, but I'm really not that into some of the subjects you discuss on this channel. Yet week after week, post after post, I find myself hitting play to see if it is a subject I'm into, and regardless if it is or isn't, I get totally sucked in to the entire episode because it is really well done, made super interesting for a layperson like myself and I also enjoy the humor. Great work, and thank you.
Bulgaria is not so dependent on Russian gas in the sense that gas makes up about 14% of total energy use. Yes, Gazprom is the sole supplier of gas, but gas is used mostly by business and in big cities for central heating. The provisional government appointed by the president does everything in it's power to convince the nation that without Russian gas we are doomed to an apocalyptical winter.
As a long-time player of many looter-shooter games, I finally understand why maintenance companies increase equipment capture in HOI4. This is an eye-opener, thank you for the quality content.
Tell the Chieftain he’s a legend for pronouncing ‘schedule’ both ways. This is a sign of a worldly, considerate and intelligent man and my trust in his statements just went up 50%.
@@carlosandleon No, it’s an international audience and it shows respect. There are a handful of words in the English language that bizarrely induce patriotic fervour. Football/Soccer for example. Rather than alienate people he simply recognised there are alternative pronunciations. Took half a second but won my respect.
@@lunachu8691 It's unecessary and inconsistent. There are better ways to do it than be inconsistent in pronunciation. At best it's a positively seen from people like you, at worst it's a disrespect to both dialedr - more to the American one.
Honestly, as an American, I can't recover from such a devastating betrayal of my trust. Totally ruined the whole power point, just devastating. A borderline butchering of the American language. 🧐🇺🇸🧐🇺🇸
We are all getting very spoiled to having world-class presentations on these topics every week. Great job! I also second the motion of getting you and some of the other really great mil vloggers together on larger projects. You all are doing what no mainstream news network will ever do, and we are the better for it.
The “Chieftain” is one of my favorite TH-camrs to watch. His in-depth knowledge of U.S. Army and other countries “tanks and armored vehicles” comes from his love of the genera and his service in the U.S. Army. Perun is right to include him in this analysis, as he is an expert in all things armor. Much like Perun is right to include Denys Davydov, as an on site evaluator of Ukrainian moral and will to fight. I applaud Mr. Perun for his in-depth Open Source (OS-INT) Intelligence analysis. Something that I became appreciative of in Afghanistan. It (OSINT) was routinely used by active military intelligence operators in theater. 😃
"Basically a NATO army. Soviet era equipment." Half of the European NATO countries are still fielding soviet era stuff because they never got around to actually spend money on defense (at least until 2014 and aquisition takes a lot of time).
The objective of a good defence policy is not to spend as much money as possible but to have as capable and large army as possible. It would be a complete waste to do away with the soviet-designed equipment simply because it doesn't cost as much to keep it than to replace it before it is worn out by use.
By the time that the former East Bloc countries have depleted most or all of the Soviet era weapons, they will budget for new, upgraded NATO-specific stuff and the education and training will undergo improvements too.
@@contentsdiffer5958 Only domestic arms industry is a real answer to the most cost-intensive items for long term. People often forget that there is always the short term to deal with before we get into the long term.
@@PodreyJenkin138 I wouldn't hold my breath with that. EU is too disunited to have an army and with NATO already in place where most EU countries are already members, there is little incentive to any established power to push for it either, except Brussels and their sworn fanatics. National armies are the future of European security if there is any to begin with.
Nice video. I am so reminded of salvage rules from the Battletech / MechWarrior games, Even the single player campaign engineer from MechWarrior 4 has this golden line "Capture the enemy's supplies and equipment, and you hurt them double."
The PzH 2000: Ukrainian service personel were expected to spent some months getting instruction from NATO staff. But very quick the tables were turned. The Ukrainians didn´t need extensive training and in fact, developed better software for it. The Ukrainians have replaced the original software thus enabling the gun to be tied to their own Arta artillery management system. allowing them to fire much faster after spotting a target.
This is why I get angry, seeing nothing but excuses with (Especially)Germany and even (Formerly) respectable pundits (Again, Germans) say the equipment is too complex, too advanced, won't fit into doctrine(??!) and will just make Ukrainian logistics worse or we can't give them enough tanks so better not to give them. They keep treating the Ukrainians like they are backward Soviet era people. Total respect for DW news. Germany isn't a total lost cause.
Yep, I served 22 years in the US Army and recently retired. My friends who trained Ukrainians really enjoyed that duty and were highly impressed with their commitment and ingenuity. Slava Ukraine!
The Ukrainians in fact got the exact planned length of training in Germany for the PzH2000. It was never planned to take multiple months, but be the standard... I think it was 40 days?... Introduction course. Plus they did not make better software for it, they simply made a modified version of the software with Help from Rheinmetal and the Bundeswehr to hook it to their existing Artillery guidance systems instead of the original that was made to integrate with the NATO software systems. The Ukrainians are doing a splendid job, but please don't exaggerate. Only makes it easier to throw doubt on overall claims.
Don't know where you heard that, but that's clearly not true my friend. Only the guys who fight in the PZH2000 got training, maintenance guys need much more training then just a couple months... 2-3 years is more realistic.
I asked operator Starsky how recovery was working. The answer was basically that when they find equipment or ammo the EOD gets flagged where to go, and if their engineers deem it safe, it goes straight back to the front. Otherwise it'll be evaluated whether to be spare parts or whatever.
Once again, brilliant analysis! Also, your humor and satirical comments remind me of a great American writer, Mark Twain. Different centuries, but absolutely spot on! Please keep it coming.
I remember how we took from one farmer near Konotop two T72 tanks, sau Nona and Buk M1, with which he categorically did not want to part due to the fact that his combine was destroyed and he could remake this air defense system for his needs. Only when we presented him with Ural and the sapper trailer did he reluctantly agree to give us the equipment. 93 brigade had a harder time, dozens, if not hundreds of Russian armor fell into their hands. Сommand gave the order, if possible, to immediately use captured equipment against the enemy, but the problem was that somewhere around 30-40% of all equipment was unusable without long-term repairs as a result of combat damage, or deliberate sabotage by its crew. Despite the fact that most of the repair facilities managed to be evacuated to where Russian missiles are not dangerous for them, the issue of transferring equipment for repairs remains open even now. Based on my observations, approximately only one of the five tanks could be used again in combat right from the spot. The rest, were used for spare parts and as stationary firing points. If we are talking about, say, the Pantsir complex, then its intended use is generally impossible, due to the lack of ammunition we need for it, but its radar capabilities are quite useful. At the same time, complexes such as Thor and Buk can be used immediately. BTR is a separate issue altogether. Most of them can be used immediately, but we still have a large number of domestic combat modules that allow us to increase their effectiveness. But again, there is not always time for complex improvements and more often you have to make do with field repairs. EW systems are also very valuable. For the capture of one of them, guys from the tro battalion were almost immediately given state awards.
@@disturbingdevelopment4308 actually it's not that interesting. All this is hard and monotonous work, the results of which are mostly invisible to those who carry them out, but are of key importance for the final result.
Perun: another excellent video! Thank you for your hard work at preparing these informative, simply stated, easy to understand masterpieces. Ever thought of going into the world of academia? Stay safe, stay sane, stay Strong Ukraine 🇺🇦
I worked with a fella called ‘Bogger Banks’ and the clue is in the name - he was reputed to have been put on earth only to teach recovery crews how to get MBT about of the mire! Interesting to hear how a lack of overall activity reduces recovery skills - I mean old Bogger would have made his battalion absolute experts in recovery!
Don't underestimate the "humble tractor" those things may not look like much, but they are powerful machines specialized to do one thing: pull heavy loads. Even the smaller models i happened to drive myself on occasions can pull trailers weighting tons up a hill. Those big machines the Ukrainian farmers use to tend their vast fields can pull (varying by model) up to 30 tons and their very specialized transmissions allow it to even pull armoured vehicles in flat terrain if done carefully, they are built to do exactly that.
Cheers from Bulgaria! I wish we could do & send more, but with the current political situation & the neighbours we have, stuff like the s-300s and migs mysteriously disappearing is not possible at this time ..
About Bulgaria. White it is true that 100% of the gas was supplied by Gasprom on two different pipelines, the truth is that Bulgaria is far less dependent on gas than other countries like Germany. Bulgaria actually uses very little gas. There are no gas power plants in Bulgaria, the dominant power production is based on locally sourced coal (plus two 1GW nuclear power plants). Heating by burning gas locally is not common. Gas is used for central heating, for example the capital Sofia uses 1/3 of all gas deliveries for heating water that is then piped around buildings. However in Soviet times the same has been done with low-grade fuel-oil that is by-product from oil refinery. This capability is actually maintained and has been tested. It's also cheaper (but dirtier). Most of the noise about Bulgarian gas supply is fear mongering. The former government managed to find alternative sources relatively quickly, without prior notice. The real problem is that a lot of corruption money are flowing with the Russian gas and oil, and these are in peril. Bulgaria is totally undermined by Russian propaganda and intelligence agencies. Also... the current president is outright Russian pawn and during elections he has full control of the country. It is in his (and Russians) interest to sabotage any normal government and trigger elections after election...
This is very good point. Europe as a whole got addicted to gas powered "peaker" plants, while in the more eastern countries it's mostly used to power a stove and central heating. While in Germany cutting gas would mean huge loss for electricity, doing that in for example Poland would mostly mean mostly a little spike in power usage, without much drop in generation.
Another great video!!! I married a Slovenian and yes, if he comes across "spare parts" something will soon be fixed. He too enjoys your videos. We're a pair of USAF vets he logistics, me weather forecaster. From the first, using our experiences - knew Russia wasn't going to take Kyiv - attacking using tanks during the spring thaw?!?! Putin was insane! The upcoming winter, used to it you Russian's think you are - watch while all your electronics freeze up when one good "Siberian Express" rolls in.
Brilliant video. It was interesting that you brought up Bulgaria (I am a brit who has lived here now for eight years). The politics certainly is interesting but I've been relatively surprised by how strong the Bulgarians have stayed. They are unavoidably tied to Russia by history and economics. The new pipeline for gas (which actually runs just above my village) did just open which should reduce dependence on Russian gas however just a few years ago every single tower block in the towns was transitioned off of wood burners and onto gas heaters - superb timing, huh. I'm very interested in this coming election - it seems most of the young people are very "west-leaning" and are not fans of Russia by any means so we shall see. Thanks as always for your excellent videos. You are a star.
It's really surprising how army repair doctrine isn't that different from household repair, finding replecement parts you need is hell, and you probably don't have the tools to fix it properly so you end up thinking about salvaging something else or doing a botch
I would really like to see you, Ryan McBeth, and Joe Broe put together a news agency for this kind of stuff. The three of you would be worlds ahead of legacy news on these matters.
Idk Ryan McBeth crying that NYT came up with their own analysis that resembles most other conclusions around because of the methods and limited information available was kind of unprofessional I guess
7:07 - "After all, if you are a farmer and you see an abandoned tank just waiting to be repurposed - are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow the thing away." 5 out of 5 vodka and cabbages.
I think like most people watching this unfold in the first 3 days, kind of expected paratroopers ending up in places they rather not and 40mile convoys, well I guess that happens because invasions are difficult... wait is that a John Deere towing a TOR? That's sort of when the penny proverbially dropped- something was not all good in the hood!
Really, man. This is foreign-intelligence-operative levels of detailed. First gen. Bulgarian living in the west, here. Can confirm re: state of Bulgarian politics, and culture of involvement. Compelling content. Continue to provide this information
Lateral supply chain logistics are actually preferred in an active warzone. As long as someone from the logistics corps is kept in the know. It's far from ideal, but keeping an all too rigid structure in spare parts distribution most likely fucks you up in the long run, as people see perfectly usable items be shipped away from the front lines. If you have commanders that can readily switch between vertical and lateral logistics, you end up with a pretty damn effective army overall.
That's not entirely true or false. This is a topic that military thinker has been talking about since the day where your mate can fight at a distance beyond any visual or audio communication allows. Say a Han Chinese general has to deal with both the costal pirates at the south and the invading nomads at the north. This is an example. Let's say there are 3 active fighting position, A, B, C. Fighting at A and C is over. Central decided it is a good idea to set up fighting position at D. Let's say A has surplus of ammo, and C has surplus of food. And they just happen to be short on what the other has on surplus. Fight at B is not over and they are short on both food and ammo. Lateral movement in this case would be A and C trade their stuff. B has to request from central for the supply they needed. Now central has to put the plan of setting up D on hold. If it follow the "standard procedure", the central will order A and C to allocate some of their surplus to B and start to set up D. And top them off later when new supply comes in.
Kudos to you Perun for consistently puttig out top quality content throughout this illegal, brutal conflict. Mr Moran was a great addition on this video mate, top work for getting him on!! In these circles, he's an absolute legend and his channel has given me, and thousands of others around the World, hours of enjoyment as military history is my favourite subject.
Part of me wants to wince at videos like this because I'm also thinking of Napoleon Bonaparte's axiom "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake." I mean, Russian soldiers, PLEASE leave your best equipment behind in running order when you retreat and thank you in advance!
7:18 - "Are you a true Slav if you don't immediately tow it away?" - lol 46:36 - US units "swap" equipment too :) 52:43 - Bulgarian equipment mysteriously keeps appearing in Ukraine - lol
Also, in his book "Chickenhawk", Robert Mason mentions this exact process happening in Vietnam, when one of the helis used in the role of carriying stuff between camps went missing, he says it was prime opportunity for all the clercks to tie "loose ends" of such exchanges, reporting the heli as carrying their items of equpment, such as 3 belts, 2 bair of boots and so on. Apparently stuff reported being on the flight should've weight several tonnes over what Huey is capable of.
Great collaboration for a great channel. It's obvious that Nicholas now considers himself an American, but I like how he hasn't totally lost his Irish accent. The Irish appearance... well, that's there for life. We can spot a fellow islander on any part of the planet.
I've heard said that there are more Irish descendants in the US than in Ireland. :D And for most nationalities, the second most populous besides their nation of origin is usually in the US.
Spare parts for tanks of T family is produced specifically for Ukrainians in Poland( including vital engine part) and in Ukraine as we speak. Some parts Poland producing now Russia has difficulty to produce , I shouldn't say more. Czech Republic is producing ammunition for Ukraine. Poland send as well recovery vehicles.
🤣🤣🤣 runnin me ragged bro! You always seem to upload after midnight my-time in Hawaii. Now that I know that I'm always staying up too late 🤣🤣. GLORY TO UKRAINE!!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Bruh if someone told me a year ago that I would be getting hyped for an hour long Australian power point about military stuff I would of pissed myself laughing, but look where we’re at now
The undamaged equipment left behind is notable There are historical accounts of people laying down their lifes to sabotage or destroy lesser items, lest they fall into enemy's hands. So allow me put forth a wild thought: What if these are *NOT* captured or abandoned? ... WHAT IF these are these actual/literal *surrenders* ? Is the kit the bargaining chip/golden ticket of soldiers that don't want to fight? Solid content.
Russian discipline/morale has seemed to be a huge issue the whole war, troops not taking the time to sabotage equipment they can't take with them when fleeing might have more to do with them not caring then any sort of surrender deals being struck.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC IF they were fleeing, there would be no shortage of manpower and no need for "partial" mobilization. IF they were fleeing, they would be hundreds of (very public) trials. IF they can't take the equipment, are they fleeing on foot?
The political situation in my country (Bulgaria) is indeed very complicated. But not to the extent, where the status-quo is going to be changed in regards to supplies to Ukraine. I can go on for hours, but the TLDR version is - there are two main political parties that can't stand each other. One is strong EU aligned that has a proven track record to work well with the state department and before the war, with Russia as well. The other one is brand sparkling new that is mainly US aligned with proclivity to be friendly towards EU. Both those parties (including 1 other smaller one) are completely for throwing everything we got to support Ukraine. Trouble is: - The parties that are needed for a coalition government if those two don't shake hands are under heavy Russian influence (one being the successor to the Bulgarian Communist Party). Those two can't shake hands, since the newer one runs almost exclusively on a "those guys really suck" platform and that will be a political suicide. - We are a parliamentary republic, which means when there is no majority government, the President gets to appoint a residential parliament. Trouble is, the dude's an ex major-general from the air forces and holds very warm feelings towards the good old soviet friends of his. He's not going to do anything dumb, but will probably not progress this further. So as far as the current thing is concerned, the ammo(bullets, rockets and artilery) and firearms(from handguns, AKs, snipers, everything using eastern block caliber) factories are working quadruple production if not more - have a friend of mine living in one of the towns where that's the major employer - they're bussing people in from other areas to pump out more production. Sadly - no donating, reasons explained above. That said - if those two shake hands until Putin contracts the tall building window disease, From just reserves there are around 200-250 T72s, more than 500 BMPs and around 200+ 122 mm SPGs with Ukraine's name on it (the latter we can make domestically). Those two have been yapping about who supports Ukraine more and they have already promised those things. Is it likely - I wouldn't put a dime on it.
Dear Nick... Thank you so much for explaining the how things operate in Bulgaria.. Hopefully, the two parties will shake hands and the government can start sending some of the T72s, BPMs and SPGs to Ukraine. Obviously, the sooner the better.
29:10 actually about that 3D printing part, the HARMs being attached to the MiG-29s is done by a 3D printed bracket. Of course these brackets could still have been delivered by supplying NATO nations but it might also be produced locally since 3D printers are quite versatile depending on the printer and what material you use
36:47 as a former US Army supply guy I can tell you that right there, that schedule which determines the necessity of a particular part, that is where the friction lies when it comes to getting parts for front line equipment. What the guys in the Pentagon might think is absolutely essential for a truck to.move is not necessarily what the mechanic or the crew might think is essential.
When a tracked vehicle does a turn, it “swings” the back end more compared to a wheeled vehicle because of the way it steers. That results in dragging the towed vehicle’s front laterally. At least, that’s the only reason I can think of, the manual did not go into the details as why.
I think that the UA Army Logistics Core should adopt the motto "the only weapon better than the one I give you, is the one you take from our enemies" Slava Ukrani
That informal equipment swapping economy is an official thing in my military. Since everything is recorded on a computer and you can see other units holdings its semi common for units to swap equipment for other things that they need more. Its one of those decentralized systems that makes things flow better and faster without getting higher level commands and the bean counters too heavily involved, just as long as the changes are reported so that resupply is routed correctly.
Big thanks to the Chieftain (Nicholas Moran) for his help and input into this episode - please check out his channel: th-cam.com/users/TheChieftainsHatch
I'd also like to say thanks also to returning sponsor Ground News, who have been recurring supporters of the channel:
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Ground news sponsorships have previously allowed me to donate to relief efforts in Ukraine - and I'll announce a new round of donations next week as voted by patrons.
Finally, thanks to everyone for understanding why I am not doing any coverage of Russian mobilisation until next week - your understanding of the fact it takes me time to gather and verify information is always very much appreciated.
Hi Perun, thank you for the research you do.
P.s. when they going to hire you to teach at Harvard or something,lol
Just a little help with Irish names.
'Moran' should be pronounced M(o)ran, instead of 'Morran'.
It can equally be said 'More-an', but is never (afaik) said like 'sporran'.
I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to pronounce my surname (Suibhne).
(And just in case you thought I'm being a bit of a dick, 'Onbedoelde Kut' is a cheeky translation of 'unintentional cunt' into Dutch)!
(I'm not Dutch).
Could we get the videos premiered?
I am very disappointed in The Chieftain... never once was track tensioning mentioned XD
Shout-out to Russia for dropping more items on defeat than the average JRPG monster.
And they not even done yet
Their loot is quite generous.
It's all low tier trash, but you can trade it for legendary gear in the west.
They're what happened when you you have character with insane luck on RPG/JRPG game, the loot drop rate% are unbelievable
This isn't even their final form
“Tankfactories aren’t exactly known for their maneuverability” is my new favorite sentence
They aren't known for it but they have on rare occasion done that. :)
@@Megalomaniakaal Yea, under a mountain in 1943. lol
Haha, Soviet factories go brrrrrrrr!
Sounds like Ukraine could use the Fatboy from Supreme Commander.
WW2 Era soviets beg to differ.
LETS GO BABY POWER POINT TIME!!
comma would've been useful
Not as useful as this power point boi
Yay! Lerning!
POWER POINT! POWER POINT!
yeah boyyyy lego
All of these videos are literally a college level course on military economics and logistics. All you need is a test or an exam. Bravo and keep it up!
Perun should literally start a subscribe page and people pay him to take his tests/quizzes on the topics he covers.
Better reserves that until way later once the whole Russo-Ruthenian conflict is over.
It's the best part of studying but without the exams.
They really aren't. More like college level fan fiction
Like most college courses I took, the lectures are way more interesting than the readings.
~50% of the number of your global subscribers have watched the video in the 1st 6 hours. 10% of those left a thumbs up, 5% commented. These are the best figures I‘ve seen on any channel, ever, yet you deserve more. Wish you all the best and thanks for the amazing content!
Glad I'm not the only one who looks at these numbers - I do try and feed the algorithm by adding relevant(ish) comments.
... and yes Perun deserves these figures (or more).
Thanks for mentioning those analytics.
12 hours in he is 6k short his sub count. That is incredible! Bravo.
@@andrewharrison8436 I think its because (speaking for myself) breaking things down on a logistics level hlps me feel less fearful of the unknown and though no less horrific even the worst problems are best solved with a calm mind. His pre-loaded disclosures and well defined parameters or qualifications make a vague topic seem less scary. Plus, good voice and most of razor sharp deadpan humor cuts and Private Konskriptovich jokes.
@@michaelrowave I’ve been seeing people commenting on other Ukraine channels with the terms “Pvt Konscriptovich and General Oligarchov, etc..😂😂😂 and tons of viewers know exactly where it’s from and credit Perun! We could call the, Perun-isms? 😂❤
Excellent video and as a Slav with a little farmer background I was hysterically laughing at the ''are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow the tank away" sentence, well done!
If you see the Videos of the Ukrainian farmers...they are almost GIDDY yanking these Russian tanks out of the (Their) fields.
I gotta say, as an American, if I saw a tank broke down in my neighborhood, I would probably try to tow it off as well. :D
@@shorewall lol!...a Russian tank? 1000%!...an M1A2? We might get in trouble...BUT, I'm sure we can find a garage to keep the damn thing!
@@shorewall BTW- WOLVERINES!
The best part about Slavs is that you can make totally inappropriate jokes about their stereotypes, and they just laugh and nod! Stay proud guys! Stay proud!
Say what you want about Wargaming, I'm grateful that they gave The Chieftain his job and funded his research. He's a godsend to the tank enthusiast and segments of the military history communities.
I have, overall, a highly negative opinion of the direction their games have gone in the past several years.
However, them pulling out of Russia, moving their offices, etc. that they did at the start of the conflict got a lot of respect from me.
Wargaming are Russian vatniks
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 they have pulled out of belarus, they used to have their headquarters in minsk
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 iirc one of their guys name "serB" was fired for his opinion during the invasion (pro-russian).
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 they have an office in kiev
Aweseome video, and well-used collab!!!
Also: "Poland is pusing for a multi-national repair hub" - I kind of get the feeling that what Poland wants is to go to St. Petersburg, but must content itself with doing everything they can short of that!
And the Czechs will join in! Russia WILL pay for 1968
Russia would get it's az.z kicked in a hot minute if they screw up and mess with Poland.
Well we still wait for Khadirov and his dogs to conquer us....
@@barrybolton1396 the Poles were on a shopping spree recently and got themselves quite an impressive arsenal (once it is produced and/or delivered). wonder what they have in mind with so many weapons...
@@embreis2257 They could kick Russia out of Ukraine with what they have now...some winged Hussars outside of Moscow perhaps?
After hearing the Cheiftan talk about the first level of recovery being "DIY" for the crew I cannot stress enough how much hard training experience is required to make a good crew.
When in Poland (as an American) they often complained our equipment was broken and dirty for public displays. Truth be told, I always hated that sentiment because each flake of paint missing was a lesson our crew learned putting in hard hours in the field, not neglect (the Poles have shiny display equipment for parades only). Being able to see an malfunction and go "get me a wrench, an aiming pole, and a sledge hammer" is something you can't teach in any manual. Hard earned experience and strict adherence to BII layouts honestly makes me think that in a fair fight with equal numbers, an American unit would beat a Russian unit, equipment differences be damned.
Best to learn the nuances of your equipment on the training fields than to try and learn the tricks of the trade as a 155mm round flies into your position. It looks as though instead of gardening for a General or driving in patriotic displays the Russians should have laundered some money into better war game exercises and breaking some equipment so they don't die when the games become real.
On the other hand my friend who is currently serving in polish army told that nobody earn as much respect in his eyes as technical crews responsible for maintenance of stored equipment. T-72s (MBT) or just Star 266s (medium truck) are more than 50 years old and with means of storing under low humidity and frequent checks given the amount of work these vehicles done, their status is strikingly good.
What's most impressive is that all that seems to be on a really, really tight budget.
I have no Idea about American procedures in that field but seeing Russian trucks with busted tires due to them being poorly maintained showed me how important that work really is.
I don't know about DIY side of this though
@@juliuszkocinski7478 please do not get me wrong, I'm not bashing on the Poles at all. It just rubbed me wrong when they acted like we were just going to produce perfect painted units out of thin air like I just had a [vehicle] chilling in my back pocket.
They train hard too. I was just pointing out what happens when you let the equipment degrade, to a point the crews skill will degrade with it. Not doing those simple easy maintenence tasks may have had big trickle down effects that cost Russian lives.
Something of this sort came to my mind as well.
From a German perspective i'm afraid of the level of bureaucracy that might be involved in training with heavy equipment. What actually happens when a Leopard get stuck during exercise?
Will the crew call it a day and leave it for the -Biber- Büffel to handle or is this a advanced work-group meeting?
Because, from my short experience in logistics, its mostly: "You're not supposed to tinker/deal with this!"
Edit: Wrong tank 🤐
The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.
@@DrKlausTrophobie Good question honestly. I wonder that as well. I know our nations train together often, but both face material shortcomings, lack of personnel and funding. There is lots of footage though of the 1st Panzer Division training, wherein often the Buffel can be spotted towing the Leos away. I think the combat engineers are one of the few units left that have enough material.
So as a former Bradley mechanic and recovery operator. I have to say there are so many variables that can happen during these missions. And even if the recovery missions just towing back a broke down vehicle. You then have to troubleshoot why the vehicle broke down. Depending on if you have parts or can get parts quickly that vehicle will be returned to missions fairly soon. But if you know there won't be parts for a while but another vehicle is awaiting another part that can be swapped over from the long term deadline vehicle then it often makes combat power sense to do the swap and just order now 2 parts for the donor vehicle. The big problem comes when you get swamped with broken down vehicles all needing parts and your donor vehicle is now a convenient solution to get your platoons back up and running. But now your donor vehicle is looking pretty rough and has a parts on order list 3 miles long lol. You can sometimes end up just writing that vehicle off and it gets sent to a depot rebuild. This situation happens with the US military even with our great logistics systems. So you can imagine how much Ukraine is cannibalizing tanks and infantry vehicles just to keep them running. Or being forced to turn a blind eye to certain things no longer working right. But if it still moves and shoots then they have to send it. Capturing Russian tanks and equipment doesn't mean Ukraine instantly has new tanks. As we have seen so far. The Russians are kinda shit with supplies and vehicle maintenance. So Capturing a Russian tank could easily just mean free parts donors instead for vehicles Ukraine already have.
When the parts are of no more use, melt them down and use the resulting steel to build KIAs!
Ukraine are sending them to Polan for repair and uogrades so they can be used again 😄
“Given n vehicles needing m parts each on parts list p, all of which are interchangeable, determine the part swaps that should be performed to minimize 1) the number of parts needed per vehicle and 2) the number of vehicles needing a parts order of any size.”
“Additional constraint: parts list p has a paired table t with lead times of all parts. Minimize total lead time for any parts list generated.”
I realize this whole problem is probably under-constrained but it’s fun to think about feeding this into a quantum computer and it spitting out an incomprehensible work order that somehow works amazingly well.
Welcome to the Marine Armored Training Center. There are 19 major systems in this Marine Armored Personnel Carrier (Bradley AFV), and over 25 thousand moving parts. In the next 8 months, you will learn ALL OF THEM. When you are done here, you'll be able to park that vehicle on top of an enemy position, and blow the shit out of them. It's MY job to get YOUR shit in order, it's YOUR job to shut the f up, and learn. - Some quote I heard long ago.
I’m literally saving this episode for a time when I’m not going to be interrupted or distracted.
Who knew that logistical analytics was a rabbit hole I needed in my life!?!
Yeah, same. I first got interested in the logistics side when an American maintenance guy pointed out on a news network segment the Russian tyres on expensive equipment were cheapo's made in China. That led to Perun's video on corruption in the military, and I've been hooked since. As the Generals say:
"Amateurs talk about strategy and tactics. Professionals talk about logistics and sustainability in warfare."
I have to go to bed so I can sleep before a night shift. It's a dilemma whether to watch a few minutes first or not.
Perun does that
@Geoff K - If you do that, you're not gonna stop!
I’m a trucker so I listen to this shit all day while on the road lol.
As a former Mechanical Maintenance Officer, it’s gratifying to see this BDAR subject covered.
Hopefully I did it some reasonable justice
@@TheChieftainsHatch you did and then some. Might I suggest a series of ARV development vids?
@@catherineandpaulfuters2523 That would be fun!
As a maintainer, and former tank repair shop supervisor, I agree. Especially some of the differences between countries. The expedient repairs and cannibalisation was something I become a master of when overseas, lol.
Just wanted to add that there is also a repair factory in Moldava nad Bodvou in Slovakia. 100 km away from Uzhorod which is also helping with repairing Ukrainian armored vehicles. The second one is in Trenčín, probably also providing repairs (its reachable by train from UE).
Hi Perun - As a half-Bulgarian/half-Ukranian it has been agonizing to watch how little on the surface the Bulgarian government and industry have been doing to help Ukraine. When you mentioned you will "call out Bulgaria" I was so certain what would follow would be 5 minutes of methodically ripping into the weird inadequacy of our stance of support and equipment. So - thank you for actually informing on something positive.
Unfortunately due to the devastating effect of hybrid russian influence in our media and political space and the effect it has had over our society, currently the winning political move is to more or less stop short of straight up supporting Russia and "blaming NATO" - So the elections you mentioned are more or less expected with an impending sense of doom as it looks like the pro-russian euro-sceptic (straight up fascist) parties will be getting increased presence in the new parlament.
PS: On the opposite end it has been hilarious to hear how our minister of economy (who also happened to be the leader of the pro-russian socialist party) is shouting at microphones "we are not supporting Ukraine!" while at the same time seeing train-loads of munition leave "for Poland" daily :D
As a Hungarian I can say politics gets really hard when 90% of your energy sector (not just gas and oil but nuclear as well) depends on your "enemy". At least Bulgaria has ports.
@@adam-k Hungary used to have ports. It could always get adventurous and try to take them back. :P
@@SittingOnEdgeman nah , we just waiting for global warming to solve the issue.
Yeah Senpai noticed us :). I would not be soo doomeristic about the elections however. Allmost all parties are pro Ukraine (with a few notable loud exceptions), even the obviously corrupt ones like GERB have pro-Ukraine stance, heck even the president made a 180 degree turn in the last few days... My impression is that some of our politicians are trying to play the old game "try not to piss off both sides", which now however does not work now at all. Now for the freaky nationalistic parties - just remember during the pro-ukrainan protests how many people they could gather... the pro-Ukrainian protest had orders of magnitude more people.The nationalists had to bring people from the countryside with busses. Some of which had no idea what they were protesting about when asked. SO do not freak out for the moment and go to vote :). For the weapon supplies... they seem pretty significant... after the government fell one former boss of one of the weapon factories threw in the press a number of around 4200 tons of weapons supplied for just the first 2 or 3 months of the war. Ironically he was fired by the same leader of the socialist party, also ironically chairwoman of the ... weapon export comitte... so her signature is on all of those exports for, allegedly, Poland that somehow end up in Ukraine :P. Those lines of supply btw started in 2014 since we were not supposed to export weapons in to open conflicts.
@@SittingOnEdgeman this getting back business is soo 20th century... Fortunately now a take back regime is currently smashing its head to pulp banging a brick wall. Tragically to the expense of millions. Sadly here in Hungary we have many idiots working in the take back propaganda business...
Thank you Bulgaria! Thank you Perun for another unique and fabulously informative presentation. LOVE the dry humor. Glory to the Ukrainian Tractor Brigade!
I remember the Chieftain referencing you months ago (Are tanks obsolete?) and I knew it was only a matter of time before an awesome collaboration like this happened. Thank you both for helping me stay informed in-depth!
It was actually the Chieftain's reference in that video that brought me here. Got to give it to Chris Moran, he is more than willing to shout out for people, and the more quality content we have on MilTube the better. Especially if different folks cover different aspects. New points of view and ways of looking at things are valuable if you want to gain a more balanced understanding of a situation or subject.
Really upsetting that some people here even made fun of Chieftain in his video calling him an "old dinosaur" simply because of his defense for the tank and didn't like the idea that someone else was offering to counter Perun's points.
Oh yeah, another hour long PowerPoint presentation!
Salute to the Ukrainian Tractor Brigades for their hard work!
You started going over farmers and their mechanical abilities and I had to laugh, because it's SO accurate. I'm from Kansas and every farmer that I know, knows their equipment intimately and can usually figure out what's wrong with it in a few hours at worst or a few minutes at best.
I am a zero-level noob when it comes to Perun's areas of expertise, but I just love this channel. Perun, you explain these complex topics so that even I can understand them, I learn something, AND you're entertaining. Thank you for your hard work!
Oh gosh - like others have said, these briefings (yes I do feel like a member of a general staff at times due to the quality of the work) are a high point of f my weekend and I simply can not thank You enough!
Man, I was worried with such a boring sounding topic, but you never fail to impress. Great job! "Expedient repairs, aka 'bodge job', ie: duct tape the armor back in place." Priceless.
These 'boring sounding topics' are really fascinating. Just like logistics... this is REALLY how to make an efficient army. Boom-boom stuff gets all the applause, but this is the truly fascinating stuff that gets an army where it can do that. I love it.
@@petertrudelljr Who would've thought that the "boring" topic of the things that really win wars ie economics supply and logistics could be so fascinating, Perun has a talent many professional teachers and instructors lack, to be able to impart knowledge with a little dash of humour to make it stick.
@perun kudos to you for keeping this really interesting.
I care a lot about the situation in Ukraine, but I'm really not that into some of the subjects you discuss on this channel. Yet week after week, post after post, I find myself hitting play to see if it is a subject I'm into, and regardless if it is or isn't, I get totally sucked in to the entire episode because it is really well done, made super interesting for a layperson like myself and I also enjoy the humor.
Great work, and thank you.
Mate I'm proud 👏 of you and your productions, you stay focused and unbiased with your appraisals of the situation 👍 👏
Sun Tzu, says that "a wagon of captured supplies from the enemy is worth 20 of your own".
Finally a real quote from my favorite strategist lol
Field repairing is a topic people usually ignored but it is as important as frontline battles, good to see there is an expert could explain it!
Bulgaria is not so dependent on Russian gas in the sense that gas makes up about 14% of total energy use. Yes, Gazprom is the sole supplier of gas, but gas is used mostly by business and in big cities for central heating. The provisional government appointed by the president does everything in it's power to convince the nation that without Russian gas we are doomed to an apocalyptical winter.
As a long-time player of many looter-shooter games, I finally understand why maintenance companies increase equipment capture in HOI4. This is an eye-opener, thank you for the quality content.
Thank you Perun and the Chieftain for a great video that is very informative.
Tell the Chieftain he’s a legend for pronouncing ‘schedule’ both ways. This is a sign of a worldly, considerate and intelligent man and my trust in his statements just went up 50%.
that's just weird. Usually when you choose a dialect, you stick to it for eloquence sake
@@carlosandleon No, it’s an international audience and it shows respect. There are a handful of words in the English language that bizarrely induce patriotic fervour. Football/Soccer for example. Rather than alienate people he simply recognised there are alternative pronunciations. Took half a second but won my respect.
@@lunachu8691 It's unecessary and inconsistent. There are better ways to do it than be inconsistent in pronunciation. At best it's a positively seen from people like you, at worst it's a disrespect to both dialedr - more to the American one.
@@lunachu8691 And I bet my left nut, he didn't mean it intentionally at all
Honestly, as an American, I can't recover from such a devastating betrayal of my trust. Totally ruined the whole power point, just devastating. A borderline butchering of the American language. 🧐🇺🇸🧐🇺🇸
We are all getting very spoiled to having world-class presentations on these topics every week. Great job!
I also second the motion of getting you and some of the other really great mil vloggers together on larger projects. You all are doing what no mainstream news network will ever do, and we are the better for it.
The “Chieftain” is one of my favorite TH-camrs to watch. His in-depth knowledge of U.S. Army and other countries “tanks and armored vehicles” comes from his love of the genera and his service in the U.S. Army. Perun is right to include him in this analysis, as he is an expert in all things armor. Much like Perun is right to include Denys Davydov, as an on site evaluator of Ukrainian moral and will to fight. I applaud Mr. Perun for his in-depth Open Source (OS-INT) Intelligence analysis. Something that I became appreciative of in Afghanistan. It (OSINT) was routinely used by active military intelligence operators in theater. 😃
"Basically a NATO army. Soviet era equipment." Half of the European NATO countries are still fielding soviet era stuff because they never got around to actually spend money on defense (at least until 2014 and aquisition takes a lot of time).
The objective of a good defence policy is not to spend as much money as possible but to have as capable and large army as possible. It would be a complete waste to do away with the soviet-designed equipment simply because it doesn't cost as much to keep it than to replace it before it is worn out by use.
By the time that the former East Bloc countries have depleted most or all of the Soviet era weapons, they will budget for new, upgraded NATO-specific stuff and the education and training will undergo improvements too.
@@contentsdiffer5958 Only domestic arms industry is a real answer to the most cost-intensive items for long term.
People often forget that there is always the short term to deal with before we get into the long term.
@@PodreyJenkin138 I wouldn't hold my breath with that. EU is too disunited to have an army and with NATO already in place where most EU countries are already members, there is little incentive to any established power to push for it either, except Brussels and their sworn fanatics.
National armies are the future of European security if there is any to begin with.
well I think Baltics have relatively little Soviet stuff left, but that is also cause they did not start with much of the Soviet equipment anyway...
“Civilian personnel […] are auxiliary armored recovery assets” favorite Perun quote of all time.
Nice video. I am so reminded of salvage rules from the Battletech / MechWarrior games,
Even the single player campaign engineer from MechWarrior 4 has this golden line "Capture the enemy's supplies and equipment, and you hurt them double."
Those Krasukha-4 and Regata captures are unbelievably huge. Great presentation as always.
I feel genuinely educated on this topic. Thanks again for this series.
The PzH 2000: Ukrainian service personel were expected to spent some months getting instruction from NATO staff. But very quick the tables were turned. The Ukrainians didn´t need extensive training and in fact, developed better software for it. The Ukrainians have replaced the original software thus enabling the gun to be tied to their own Arta artillery management system. allowing them to fire much faster after spotting a target.
This is why I get angry, seeing nothing but excuses with (Especially)Germany and even (Formerly) respectable pundits (Again, Germans) say the equipment is too complex, too advanced, won't fit into doctrine(??!) and will just make Ukrainian logistics worse or we can't give them enough tanks so better not to give them. They keep treating the Ukrainians like they are backward Soviet era people.
Total respect for DW news. Germany isn't a total lost cause.
The Ukrainians are renowned for their ingenuity !
Thanks for sharing that gem Carsten :))
Yep, I served 22 years in the US Army and recently retired. My friends who trained Ukrainians really enjoyed that duty and were highly impressed with their commitment and ingenuity. Slava Ukraine!
The Ukrainians in fact got the exact planned length of training in Germany for the PzH2000. It was never planned to take multiple months, but be the standard... I think it was 40 days?... Introduction course.
Plus they did not make better software for it, they simply made a modified version of the software with Help from Rheinmetal and the Bundeswehr to hook it to their existing Artillery guidance systems instead of the original that was made to integrate with the NATO software systems.
The Ukrainians are doing a splendid job, but please don't exaggerate. Only makes it easier to throw doubt on overall claims.
Don't know where you heard that, but that's clearly not true my friend.
Only the guys who fight in the PZH2000 got training, maintenance guys need much more training then just a couple months... 2-3 years is more realistic.
I asked operator Starsky how recovery was working. The answer was basically that when they find equipment or ammo the EOD gets flagged where to go, and if their engineers deem it safe, it goes straight back to the front. Otherwise it'll be evaluated whether to be spare parts or whatever.
Once again, brilliant analysis! Also, your humor and satirical comments remind me of a great American writer, Mark Twain. Different centuries, but absolutely spot on! Please keep it coming.
I remember how we took from one farmer near Konotop two T72 tanks, sau Nona and Buk M1, with which he categorically did not want to part due to the fact that his combine was destroyed and he could remake this air defense system for his needs. Only when we presented him with Ural and the sapper trailer did he reluctantly agree to give us the equipment. 93 brigade had a harder time, dozens, if not hundreds of Russian armor fell into their hands. Сommand gave the order, if possible, to immediately use captured equipment against the enemy, but the problem was that somewhere around 30-40% of all equipment was unusable without long-term repairs as a result of combat damage, or deliberate sabotage by its crew. Despite the fact that most of the repair facilities managed to be evacuated to where Russian missiles are not dangerous for them, the issue of transferring equipment for repairs remains open even now. Based on my observations, approximately only one of the five tanks could be used again in combat right from the spot. The rest, were used for spare parts and as stationary firing points. If we are talking about, say, the Pantsir complex, then its intended use is generally impossible, due to the lack of ammunition we need for it, but its radar capabilities are quite useful. At the same time, complexes such as Thor and Buk can be used immediately. BTR is a separate issue altogether. Most of them can be used immediately, but we still have a large number of domestic combat modules that allow us to increase their effectiveness. But again, there is not always time for complex improvements and more often you have to make do with field repairs. EW systems are also very valuable. For the capture of one of them, guys from the tro battalion were almost immediately given state awards.
Sounds interesting. Any more info would be great!
Ok “Edward Kennedy”
@@disturbingdevelopment4308 actually it's not that interesting. All this is hard and monotonous work, the results of which are mostly invisible to those who carry them out, but are of key importance for the final result.
@@klown463 ok "Klown")
Perun: another excellent video!
Thank you for your hard work at preparing these informative, simply stated, easy to understand masterpieces.
Ever thought of going into the world of academia?
Stay safe, stay sane, stay Strong Ukraine 🇺🇦
Seriously the best channel on YT I have seen! Amazing amount of effort and really appreciated
I worked with a fella called ‘Bogger Banks’ and the clue is in the name - he was reputed to have been put on earth only to teach recovery crews how to get MBT about of the mire! Interesting to hear how a lack of overall activity reduces recovery skills - I mean old Bogger would have made his battalion absolute experts in recovery!
Another superb presentation. Clear, concise & easy to digest.
Thanks much.
Great to see @thechieftan on the channel.
The greatest nugget from this episode is the Bulgarian elections coming up. Great research as usual
"... he gonna have some questions!" Questions that need answering!
"This was the front where at the end of a long road through such scenic locations as the Chernobyl exclusion zone..." that bit really cracked me up!
Thanks for bringing the chieftain in to elaborate on just how much work goes into recovery. It really helped drive home your point!
Don't underestimate the "humble tractor" those things may not look like much, but they are powerful machines specialized to do one thing: pull heavy loads.
Even the smaller models i happened to drive myself on occasions can pull trailers weighting tons up a hill.
Those big machines the Ukrainian farmers use to tend their vast fields can pull (varying by model) up to 30 tons and their very specialized transmissions allow it to even pull armoured vehicles in flat terrain if done carefully, they are built to do exactly that.
Cheers from Bulgaria!
I wish we could do & send more, but with the current political situation & the neighbours we have, stuff like the s-300s and migs mysteriously disappearing is not possible at this time ..
About Bulgaria.
White it is true that 100% of the gas was supplied by Gasprom on two different pipelines, the truth is that Bulgaria is far less dependent on gas than other countries like Germany. Bulgaria actually uses very little gas.
There are no gas power plants in Bulgaria, the dominant power production is based on locally sourced coal (plus two 1GW nuclear power plants).
Heating by burning gas locally is not common. Gas is used for central heating, for example the capital Sofia uses 1/3 of all gas deliveries for heating water that is then piped around buildings. However in Soviet times the same has been done with low-grade fuel-oil that is by-product from oil refinery. This capability is actually maintained and has been tested. It's also cheaper (but dirtier).
Most of the noise about Bulgarian gas supply is fear mongering. The former government managed to find alternative sources relatively quickly, without prior notice.
The real problem is that a lot of corruption money are flowing with the Russian gas and oil, and these are in peril. Bulgaria is totally undermined by Russian propaganda and intelligence agencies.
Also... the current president is outright Russian pawn and during elections he has full control of the country. It is in his (and Russians) interest to sabotage any normal government and trigger elections after election...
This is very good point. Europe as a whole got addicted to gas powered "peaker" plants, while in the more eastern countries it's mostly used to power a stove and central heating.
While in Germany cutting gas would mean huge loss for electricity, doing that in for example Poland would mostly mean mostly a little spike in power usage, without much drop in generation.
As a Bulgarian I confirm this.
Another great video!!! I married a Slovenian and yes, if he comes across "spare parts" something will soon be fixed. He too enjoys your videos. We're a pair of USAF vets he logistics, me weather forecaster. From the first, using our experiences - knew Russia wasn't going to take Kyiv - attacking using tanks during the spring thaw?!?! Putin was insane! The upcoming winter, used to it you Russian's think you are - watch while all your electronics freeze up when one good "Siberian Express" rolls in.
Brilliant video. It was interesting that you brought up Bulgaria (I am a brit who has lived here now for eight years). The politics certainly is interesting but I've been relatively surprised by how strong the Bulgarians have stayed. They are unavoidably tied to Russia by history and economics. The new pipeline for gas (which actually runs just above my village) did just open which should reduce dependence on Russian gas however just a few years ago every single tower block in the towns was transitioned off of wood burners and onto gas heaters - superb timing, huh.
I'm very interested in this coming election - it seems most of the young people are very "west-leaning" and are not fans of Russia by any means so we shall see.
Thanks as always for your excellent videos. You are a star.
It's really surprising how army repair doctrine isn't that different from household repair, finding replecement parts you need is hell, and you probably don't have the tools to fix it properly so you end up thinking about salvaging something else or doing a botch
I'm now at 39:02 and I need to say, great video as always and a wonderful collaboration.
I would really like to see you, Ryan McBeth, and Joe Broe put together a news agency for this kind of stuff. The three of you would be worlds ahead of legacy news on these matters.
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Lazer Pig isn't bad either
@@barrybolton1396 I knew I was forgetting someone
Idk Ryan McBeth crying that NYT came up with their own analysis that resembles most other conclusions around because of the methods and limited information available was kind of unprofessional I guess
7:07 - "After all, if you are a farmer and you see an abandoned tank just waiting to be repurposed - are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow the thing away."
5 out of 5 vodka and cabbages.
the bit about captured Russian equipment replacing pet photos on dating apps, genius 🤣
It must be a great honor to make a video with an expert like the Chieftain. Keep going with your video
I think like most people watching this unfold in the first 3 days, kind of expected paratroopers ending up in places they rather not and 40mile convoys, well I guess that happens because invasions are difficult... wait is that a John Deere towing a TOR?
That's sort of when the penny proverbially dropped- something was not all good in the hood!
Another impeccable analysis by Perun with a fantastic lecture by the Chieftan himself as a bonus?! This is a good day for a military nerd
Really, man. This is foreign-intelligence-operative levels of detailed. First gen. Bulgarian living in the west, here. Can confirm re: state of Bulgarian politics, and culture of involvement. Compelling content. Continue to provide this information
Lateral supply chain logistics are actually preferred in an active warzone. As long as someone from the logistics corps is kept in the know. It's far from ideal, but keeping an all too rigid structure in spare parts distribution most likely fucks you up in the long run, as people see perfectly usable items be shipped away from the front lines.
If you have commanders that can readily switch between vertical and lateral logistics, you end up with a pretty damn effective army overall.
That's not entirely true or false.
This is a topic that military thinker has been talking about since the day where your mate can fight at a distance beyond any visual or audio communication allows. Say a Han Chinese general has to deal with both the costal pirates at the south and the invading nomads at the north.
This is an example. Let's say there are 3 active fighting position, A, B, C. Fighting at A and C is over. Central decided it is a good idea to set up fighting position at D.
Let's say A has surplus of ammo, and C has surplus of food. And they just happen to be short on what the other has on surplus.
Fight at B is not over and they are short on both food and ammo.
Lateral movement in this case would be A and C trade their stuff. B has to request from central for the supply they needed. Now central has to put the plan of setting up D on hold.
If it follow the "standard procedure", the central will order A and C to allocate some of their surplus to B and start to set up D. And top them off later when new supply comes in.
I absolutely LOVE this channel. Consistently fascinating. Many thanks from Canada.
BRILLIANT episode, sir 👏
Thank you, great to see the Chieftain making yet another guest appearance...!!
Peace and respect from northern BC 🇨🇦
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1. Bluey
2. Perun
Thought NOTHING can be better than Perun .... silly me ... 😁
Great analysis and presentation 👍
Kudos to you Perun for consistently puttig out top quality content throughout this illegal, brutal conflict.
Mr Moran was a great addition on this video mate, top work for getting him on!! In these circles, he's an absolute legend and his channel has given me, and thousands of others around the World, hours of enjoyment as military history is my favourite subject.
I would offer a bounty to Russian soldiers that surrender with equipment. Say $5K Euros, new passports and civilian kit, and bus tickets to Poland.
As a bulgarian I am so happy to see this :) Hope the elections will go well on the 2nd! It costed us a government so I hope it was worthed!
Part of me wants to wince at videos like this because I'm also thinking of Napoleon Bonaparte's axiom "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake." I mean, Russian soldiers, PLEASE leave your best equipment behind in running order when you retreat and thank you in advance!
Great analysis, as always. Thanks
The Chieftain is great. Thanks!
7:18 - "Are you a true Slav if you don't immediately tow it away?" - lol
46:36 - US units "swap" equipment too :)
52:43 - Bulgarian equipment mysteriously keeps appearing in Ukraine - lol
Radar and Sparky making trades for valuable kit seems to be kind of realistic.
@@capitalistdingo Hey, where's the recognition for the classiest man in the unit and Toledo's treasure?
Also, in his book "Chickenhawk", Robert Mason mentions this exact process happening in Vietnam, when one of the helis used in the role of carriying stuff between camps went missing, he says it was prime opportunity for all the clercks to tie "loose ends" of such exchanges, reporting the heli as carrying their items of equpment, such as 3 belts, 2 bair of boots and so on. Apparently stuff reported being on the flight should've weight several tonnes over what Huey is capable of.
@@genericbit677 lol, yup. in the early 80's in 3/2ACR, it was "M25". Amazing what was on it. ;)
Great collaboration for a great channel. It's obvious that Nicholas now considers himself an American, but I like how he hasn't totally lost his Irish accent. The Irish appearance... well, that's there for life. We can spot a fellow islander on any part of the planet.
I've heard said that there are more Irish descendants in the US than in Ireland. :D And for most nationalities, the second most populous besides their nation of origin is usually in the US.
I finally feel like a real armchair general after watching your videos. So in depth that I'm in over my head!
I look forward to these presentations every week. Thanks!
Spare parts for tanks of T family is produced specifically for Ukrainians in Poland( including vital engine part) and in Ukraine as we speak. Some parts Poland producing now Russia has difficulty to produce , I shouldn't say more. Czech Republic is producing ammunition for Ukraine. Poland send as well recovery vehicles.
🤣🤣🤣 runnin me ragged bro! You always seem to upload after midnight my-time in Hawaii. Now that I know that I'm always staying up too late 🤣🤣.
GLORY TO UKRAINE!!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Marvellous analysis as usual Perun. Many thanks and more power to you !
I highly respect your due diligence sir. Keep your head on a swivel just like you have. Keep pressing until victory! Slava Ukraine!
Bruh if someone told me a year ago that I would be getting hyped for an hour long Australian power point about military stuff I would of pissed myself laughing, but look where we’re at now
The undamaged equipment left behind is notable
There are historical accounts of people laying down their lifes to sabotage or destroy lesser items, lest they fall into enemy's hands.
So allow me put forth a wild thought: What if these are *NOT* captured or abandoned? ... WHAT IF these are these actual/literal *surrenders* ? Is the kit the bargaining chip/golden ticket of soldiers that don't want to fight?
Solid content.
Russian discipline/morale has seemed to be a huge issue the whole war, troops not taking the time to sabotage equipment they can't take with them when fleeing might have more to do with them not caring then any sort of surrender deals being struck.
@@RipOffProductionsLLC IF they were fleeing, there would be no shortage of manpower and no need for "partial" mobilization.
IF they were fleeing, they would be hundreds of (very public) trials.
IF they can't take the equipment, are they fleeing on foot?
The political situation in my country (Bulgaria) is indeed very complicated. But not to the extent, where the status-quo is going to be changed in regards to supplies to Ukraine. I can go on for hours, but the TLDR version is - there are two main political parties that can't stand each other. One is strong EU aligned that has a proven track record to work well with the state department and before the war, with Russia as well. The other one is brand sparkling new that is mainly US aligned with proclivity to be friendly towards EU. Both those parties (including 1 other smaller one) are completely for throwing everything we got to support Ukraine. Trouble is:
- The parties that are needed for a coalition government if those two don't shake hands are under heavy Russian influence (one being the successor to the Bulgarian Communist Party). Those two can't shake hands, since the newer one runs almost exclusively on a "those guys really suck" platform and that will be a political suicide.
- We are a parliamentary republic, which means when there is no majority government, the President gets to appoint a residential parliament. Trouble is, the dude's an ex major-general from the air forces and holds very warm feelings towards the good old soviet friends of his. He's not going to do anything dumb, but will probably not progress this further.
So as far as the current thing is concerned, the ammo(bullets, rockets and artilery) and firearms(from handguns, AKs, snipers, everything using eastern block caliber) factories are working quadruple production if not more - have a friend of mine living in one of the towns where that's the major employer - they're bussing people in from other areas to pump out more production. Sadly - no donating, reasons explained above.
That said - if those two shake hands until Putin contracts the tall building window disease, From just reserves there are around 200-250 T72s, more than 500 BMPs and around 200+ 122 mm SPGs with Ukraine's name on it (the latter we can make domestically). Those two have been yapping about who supports Ukraine more and they have already promised those things. Is it likely - I wouldn't put a dime on it.
Dear Nick... Thank you so much for explaining the how things operate in Bulgaria.. Hopefully, the two parties will shake hands and the government can start sending some of the T72s, BPMs and SPGs to Ukraine. Obviously, the sooner the better.
"until Putin contracts the tall building window disease" LOL 🤣 Please, Vladimer, Just Do It.
Astonishing. Thank you!
29:10 actually about that 3D printing part, the HARMs being attached to the MiG-29s is done by a 3D printed bracket. Of course these brackets could still have been delivered by supplying NATO nations but it might also be produced locally since 3D printers are quite versatile depending on the printer and what material you use
“I want to keep the video tight. . . .” and then publishes a 69 minute video 😂
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant, a well spent 69 minutes.
Let's shout out Russia's extreme generosity in donation to Ukraine
36:47 as a former US Army supply guy I can tell you that right there, that schedule which determines the necessity of a particular part, that is where the friction lies when it comes to getting parts for front line equipment. What the guys in the Pentagon might think is absolutely essential for a truck to.move is not necessarily what the mechanic or the crew might think is essential.
Great video, can't wait for the next one on partial mobilisation :)
You cannot be half pregnant. Soviets have gone the full hog
_"tracked vehicles can not tow wheeled vehicles because it damages their steering "_ Me not understand, can someone explain, pls.
When a tracked vehicle does a turn, it “swings” the back end more compared to a wheeled vehicle because of the way it steers. That results in dragging the towed vehicle’s front laterally. At least, that’s the only reason I can think of, the manual did not go into the details as why.
Another fantastic video. Thanks.
Phillip.
Thank you for the deep analysis. It helps to structure and understand what's going on and why.
This just in...Russian annexation was rejected by the referendum. Spread the news. : )
Fantastic work! Thanks to the Chieftain for adding his expertise to an already-incredible effort.
This was a great video. The Chieftain was very to the point. Thank you for the video.
I think that the UA Army Logistics Core should adopt the motto "the only weapon better than the one I give you, is the one you take from our enemies" Slava Ukrani
That informal equipment swapping economy is an official thing in my military.
Since everything is recorded on a computer and you can see other units holdings its semi common for units to swap equipment for other things that they need more. Its one of those decentralized systems that makes things flow better and faster without getting higher level commands and the bean counters too heavily involved, just as long as the changes are reported so that resupply is routed correctly.
Absolutely fantastic content, thanks again. And thanks to The Chieftain for sharing his insight. 👍