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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether Lamar Jackson ended the MVP debate with a blowout win over the Miami Dolphines and his consistent play all season.
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Lamar giving Gus Edwards 13 rushing TDs is exactly why he’s MVP. He lets his whole team eat every time. Unselfish and a true leader. The team folds without him
Exactly. Mike drop! 🎤
Yeah he could have way more if he was like the other quarterbacks and keeping it or looking for a quick pass. I must say if Andrews was healthy he is #1 red zone threat and he probably would have six or so more redzone passing touch downs BUT using Gus the Bus also reduces the number of QB hits and pressures so I am not mad at it, team over personal stats every day and the best stat of all is the W
Exactly, what does Josh Allen do the moment the ball is within 3 yards of the end zone? Pad his stats
Well said💯
With Brock Purdy as quarterback, the 49ers are the first team in NFL history to have a running back, two wide receivers and a tight end all hit over 1,000 all-purpose yards in a single season. Christian McCaffery has 1523 rushing yards and 14 rushing touchdowns and 564 receiving yards and 7 receiving touchdowns for a total of 2087 total yards and 21 total touchdowns.
Like JJ Watt said.. "If your team needs a QB, and the GM said he didn't want Lamar, he should be fired"
The nfl was in on not letting him be signed for a complete gauranteed contract plus his mom represents him so that's why they wouldn't do it. They did the samething to Jonathan Taylor when he wanted out of indy. The owners of Baltimore were the only players in the lamar sweepstakes. They are glad that happen especially if they win a superbowl.
I agree with that but 7 games this season lamar has averaged under 1 td per game. That is not mvp.
@pipz420 Yes, but I'd argue no player is more valuable to the team as Lamar.
@@questtech7148 and I would argue that this year the most valuable is Dak. Unless your using past years to determine who is more valuable. He lead his offense to more points while the ravens have won games off of defense. Lamar isn't even top 5 in tds this season and if he won MVP I don't think you could name a worse MVP in the last 20 years.
@@pipz420 Did you watch any of those games?
I agree with James. The reason Lamar only has 29 TDs is that Todd Monken is a much better play-caller than Roman (Example: Dominating in a stacked SEC at Georgia) plus Gus Edwards is money inside the 20-yard line. Lamar is the MVP not because of his stats but because of the effect he has on everyone on the team. They all feed off of his leadership, and it shows every game. In 2019 he won the MVP because of stats and highlight reel plays. This year it's because of his maturity as a QB and as a leader. He's cool and controlled and its a deadly 1-2 combo.
Great take man well put no doubt!
Russell Wilson has 29 TDs
Facts . Notice in the redzone.. they are RUNNING the ball. Old school esc. Ravens ball. You see someone like purdy in the redzone they are PASSING the whole time . Slants mesh routes zigs all that .
Exactly ravens are still old school mentality and its perfect they added a new touch with monken
Yes but have you watched Russ play football recently? Its hard to watch
James Jones is the only expert I have heard mention the fact that Gus Edwards has 13 touchdowns because of Lamar, and if Lamar wanted more touchdowns for himself, he could’ve had more touchdowns from the 1 yard line instead of handing off the ball to Gus. That’s just facts.
Facts bruh. Tells you the type of person Lamar is, a team player, and just an unselfish person.
@@Night--Shift 7:12
I aint heard and mvp half to have this many excuses to why he doesn't have the stats. You know how many handoffs around the end zone CMC gets, this happens all over the league.
@@soda8736 because we are humans and have critical thinking lmao. The offense puts up points
@@soda8736ain’t excuses just truth all u gotta do is look at his stats vs the divisional leaders case closed 😂🤷🏾♂️
Acho been doubting Lamar and been his #1 hater. Now he looking like a fool.
Not really especially with a 1-3 record in playoffs
@@MrDre18he’s still proving his doubters wrong
@@MrDre18Wins ain't a QB stat
@@MrDre18I’m sure you were saying the same thing about Peyton Manning when he was 0-3 in the playoffs too huh? I guess you’re yt
@@MrDre18you’re a dipshit and embarrassing yourself
James Jones is a really good analyst and the least biased on this panel. He always takes the personal part out.
Exactly he is the best on the show ! But they are all great together and acho is a great qb joy is a great coach and shady ehhh
LMAO I love me some James Jones but you forget when he used to be a guest on Undisputed, man stayed HATING on Brady because he was a ride or die for his Packers.
@@inigorodriguez8299what he did in the past doesn’t matter at this moment in time because James has shown the ability to grow and not be a biased commentator
@@SuperShotGaming 100%. This is what I'm talking about. I don't know about the Brady hate but I wouldn't even know he played for the Packers like I can tell with Shady. He's takes are are really solid.
i said it yesterday. Lamar is making it look like he's playing college
Im glad James jones brought up the gus Edwards thing because i been saying that all along. Lamar gets penalized for not having that many passing TDs but that's because he hands the ball off to Edwards every time they get in the redzone. Yesterday lamar threw it in the redzone alot more when usually he hands it off. It was almost as if lamar was proving a point that if he wanted to have 4-5 passing TDs a game, he could. Dolphins fans was complaining about the ravens continuing to throw in a game already decided. Lamar was pretty much like "No i thought this what yall wanted??" 😂🤷🏿♂️
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Their fans shouldn't even be talking the way they were break dancing on Denver lol
@@rhyno514😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly
James reads the comment section
Against the Browns, Lions, Miami, 49ers, and Jags - 3 road games and two home games here at LJ’s stats - 13 TDs, 3 rush, 1 INT over 70% completion. Out scored opponents 175-54. Who has numbers like that?? Outside of the Jags all those teams have 11 or more wins.
And the jags are good to me
Believe Skip mentioned he doesn't need all the leading stat numbers because LJ and the Ravens defense don't usually play from behind in the latter quarters.
I got a stat for you this year the Ravens have led in every game going into the last two minutes. Also, since 2022 the Ravens have had a double digit lead going into the fourth quarter with Lamar as the QB except for two games. Dude is just a straight up baller.
Literally plus he gave Gus tds.😂😭😂
Someone owes Cam Newton an apology😂
Nah bc dak isn't a game manager
I don’t think no one disagreed with the point of Lamar being a game changer
I've been waiting for 2 weeks now. Can't find em anywhere 😂
Cam should apologize
Dak ain’t a game manager he owes dak an apology
Lamar plays like he's playing at the park with friends having fun. That's why it looks so easy because he's having a blast. MVP!!!
Best comment on here 💯💯💯🤝🏾
Facts. Fun is a factor. Ask the Golden State Warriors 2016-2019. In 2019, the Ravens had fun just like they are now. This time it's fun with real focus! They mean business!
Josh Allen threw 16 interceptions. How can he be the next CLOSE to the MVP?
I’m wondering the same thing. After Lamar, I got CMC and Dak. Dak threw 15 last season and got roasted all throughout the season. And the last 3 games Allen hasn’t played great. Against the Cowboys it was James Cook. He barely survived the Chargers with the backup qb and against the Patriots not terrible but not MVP worthy. After the Bills game, Dak’s had 2 great games where he put the team on his back (especially against the Lions where the run game was nonexistent)?and gave his team chances to win on both occasions, going 1-1.
the league high on josh allen and he look how they want their qb to look thats all 16 int is very bad fr fr
Think in terms of total turnovers. Turnovers are lost fumbles and interceptions.
2023 season through week 16.
Josh Allen has 16 INT with an INT rate of 3.0. He has 6 fumbles with 3 lost fumbles. Only lost fumbles count as a turnover. Josh Allen has a total of 19 turnovers.
Lamar Jackson has 7 INT with an INT rate of 1.5. He has 11 fumbles with 6 lost fumbles. Only lost fumbles count as a turnover. Lamar Jackson has a total of 13 turnovers.
Brock Purdy has 11 INT with an INT rate of 2.5. He has 6 fumbles with 2 lost fumbles. Only lost fumbles count as a turnover. Brock Purdy has a total of 13 turnovers.
But...
You have to take into account of how many passing attempts and completions each QB makes to correlate the numbers.
2023 season through week 16.
Josh Allen attempted 544 passes and completed 355 of them. He has 3947 passing yards. Passing completion 65.6%. Passer rating 91.5.
Lamar Jackson attempted 457 passes and completed 307 of them. He has 3678 passing yards. Passing completion 67.2%. Passer rating 102.7.
Brock Purdy attempted 444 passes and completed 308 of them. He has 4280 passing yards. Passing completion 69.4%. Passer rating 113.0.
Josh Allen has rushed for 457 yards this season. He has 15 total rushing touchdowns.
Lamar Jackson has 821 rushing yards this season. He has 5 total rushing touchdowns.
Brock Purdy has rushed for 144 yards this season. He has 2 rushing touchdowns.
Keep in mind the more passing attempts a quarterback makes the more likely he'll have interceptions.
Keep in mind the more rushing yards a quarterback runs the more likely it is he will fumble.
This is why Josh Allen has more interceptions and Lamar Jackson has more fumbles.
Josh Allen has 27 passing touchdowns and 15 rushing touchdowns. Josh Allen has a total of 42 touchdowns.
Lamar Jackson has 24 passing touchdowns and 5 rushing touchdowns. Lamar Jackson has a total of 29 touchdowns.
Brock Purdy has 31 passing touchdowns and 2 rushing touchdowns. Brock Purdy has a total of 33 touchdowns.
People talk about how "efficient" Brock Purdy is. This means he does "more with less" attempts.
NFL fans read about raw stats but don't bother to look into how the stats are reached and how they correlate to actual gameplay by quarterbacks.
As you can see all of these quarterbacks are elite quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson is not so much greater that he deserves the MVP more than the other two.
NFL fans talk about MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. But usually in the wrong context. They usually talk about it in the quarterback carrying his team.
The real value of a quarterback isn't in carrying his team. It's in elevating his teammates. Making them better than they were without him as their quarterback.
Example: Brock Purdy of the 49ers.
The 49ers are the first team in NFL history to have a running back, two wide receivers and a tight end all hit over 1,000 all-purpose yards in a single season.
Plus, if Deebo Samuel were to play in week 17 and get 129 yards he would reach 1000 receiving yards.
This would mean that Brandon Aiyuk, Deebo Samuel and George Kittle would all 3 have 1000+ receiving yards.
With Brock Purdy as their quarterback the team is being elevated and is setting franchise and NFL records while winning games and the #1 seed.
Something to consider.
@@Juan_C84right and dak only shot 8 interceptions so why he’s not still in the conversation I’m confused and he only had that one bad game
What about TD to turnover ratio?
Best MVP take I've heard all year, best player with the most impact on the team. He may not have the stats but increases the production of his team.
All of a sudden stats doesn't make u mvp man that's moving the goalpost
@@alpharob6959watch the games eye test don’t lie
Should be dak
"Increases production of his time" as the 49ers are the first team in history with 4 players with more than 1000 all purpose yards
Lmaoo
@@alpharob6959 Look at drew brees no mvp was a perennial leader in passing yards, touchdowns and completion percentage
Lamar on his best day is the most unstoppable player in the nfl. THATS A FACT
Until he ran into the Browns
@@leonardtarver149he beat the browns by 21 this year and they barely win by 2 the second time when they got a lucky pick 6 lol cmon
@@leonardtarver149bro they already smacked the browns the 1st time they played
@@captainkill21 let’s leave out the 2nd time though.😂👉🏾🚪
Lucky = L for the Ravens with a different quarterback @@captainkill21
I get it. There needs to be a debate. Sad thing is Lamar don't even care about the MVP. He's clearly focused on winning a Super Bowl. He could care less about the individual accolades.
Purdy never cared about the MVP but glad he set franchise record in passing tho👏🏽👏🏽
@@MrDre18That's exactly why he looked like a deer caught in headlights when the Ravens made him look like a novice and embarrassed him and the Niners.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@MrDre18lol he already had 3 all pro players FOH😭😂 he’s 0-3 against the AFC north FOH. You’re delusional.
@@bigmodontfail6229 It's easy to look like a big fish in a small pond full of rookies. Of course, Lamar Jackson is great on a team full of rookies, he's a six year veteran, a former MVP and a great player. But it's a lot more difficult to be a small fish in a big pond full of big fish. Brock Purdy has only played 21 regular season games, 5 last year and 16 this year. Yes, he's surrounded by all pros but he's elevating their game. Elevating an all pro's results is a lot harder than elevating a rookie. A pro has little room for improvement. While rookies have a lot of room for improvement. And yet, with Brock Purdy as the 49ers quarterback: The 49ers are the first team in NFL history to have a running back, two wide receivers and a tight end all hit over 1,000 all-purpose yards in a single season. If Deebo Samuel gets 129 receiving yards against the Rams he will be the 3rd receiver on the 49ers with 1000 receiving yards. Deebo credits Brock Purdy throwing deep balls as the reason for his success. The football isn't getting thrown to the 49ers by itself. Whether Brock Purdy deniers like it or not, he's elevating his teammates and this makes him valuable. The 49ers are BETTER with Brock Purdy as their quarterback.
The crazy thing I think Lamar holding back
Especially when he rushing. He not even running at top speed!! I think when the playoffs start, he's gonna unleash!!
@@StudentOfLife365Ong😂
Lamar is the MVP. He has played steady all year and has dominated the games against the so called elite teams . but on another note, Y'all are
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I been saying he the MVP even before the media is forced to say it. No body is more valuable to his team than Lamar action Jackson. He could’ve easily had 7 TD yesterday he wanted to Pad his stats but they hangout the 2 yard TD to Gus like they been all season.
If he don't make SB ima call him aarom Rodgers
Exactly, this is what Sherm and other criticisms I hear are not comprehending. The MVP has been stat based mostly if looking at precedent, and Purdy, Josh, and even Hill may have that, yet it will look somewhat disingenuous if LJ is denied the award. 7:12
Yall act like Lamar calling the plays. Lol
And that shows how unselfish Lamar is .....he wants his teammates to thrive and all he wants is a Superbowl...... Let's Effin' go !!!!
@@soda8736He has the ability to change the play if he sees something that he doesn't like. That is the difference between having Monken and not Roman as an offensive coordinator.
If I recall in 2019 when Lamar got the MVP with 36 TD's and 8 rushing TD's his RB's had a total of 10-11 TD's. The game plan has changed, Lamar is still doing Lamar things to get his team in position to score, the difference now is his RB's have a total of 21 TD's.
James Jones has definitely been watching the Ravens thoroughly, but great takes from everyone. I respect Acho for trying to raise objective questions, but it's pretty clear. Lamar Jackson is the MVP! 😎
James has been killing his takes all month
Lamar has become so amazing as a passer in the pocket beautiful to watch
All those teams that said they didn’t need him during the offseason
They really passed on him because he's never showed much outside the run game. And he tended to get hurt. So they didn't wanna pay him all that money if he got hurt again.
@@hairpunutyou just didn’t watch the games and listened to what the media said I’d that’s your take tbh
@@thetaylor650 That's not my take that's just what everyone saw. He never did anything outside of running the ball well. And when he got hurt they were shutdown alot. So if you get a QB that's constantly getting hurt. Your not gonna wanna stick with them. I mean look at what happened to the browns, 49ers etc. it's a constant problem in the league. He's adapted to throwing the ball more now then before.
@@hairpunut
Please!
It is 'your take', and not your "what everyone saw"! lol
LaMarvelous Jackson LED THE LEAGUE in TDs on his way to UNANIMOUS MVP!
How can a QB who is supposed to be "cannot pass" lead the NFL in PASSING TDs?
Does that even make sense to you, when you are sobered up? lol
The other NFL teams COLLUDED!
And the Loser Teams were disrespectful to their paying fans, to not even make an attempt to sign a UNANIMOUS MVP QB and give fans something PROVEN to celebrate.
@@hairpunutidk what you were watching… 😂😂
Why Is this even a debate after what he did to the 49ers and the dolphins yes there's no doubt about it
Lamar is the MVP. Defenses don’t know how to defend this offense because of Lamar.
ACTION JACKSON. HE'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE CHIP THAN A MVP, YET HE'S THE NFL'S MVP HANDS DOWN FOR REGULAR SEASON NOW THE SUPERBOWL AT HAND.
Exactly.
Lamar is the MVP period 😮😮😮.
Greatest take on the MVP discussion I have heard. If the critics want to give the award to Josh Allen, then do it. Lamar is concerned with winning the chip, he already has a MVP award.
I feel that Allen does have a case for MVP especially if they win this Sunday however Jackson's argument is better. They are the #1 seed. They beat the other #1 in the NFC. 4 of the other big contenders in the MVP race he beat when the teams went head to head. He has consistently shown up this year game after game to deliver wins for his team.
@@MrJpaynebbthese veterans have been here longer but still risk losing MVP. If a rookie can play almost better than you I think that's saying a lot
Josh allen has 19 turnovers. How is he in the convo?
This 👆
42 TDs
Set record for most games with 1 pass and 1 rush TD
Set record for most rush TDs by a QB
Accounts for over 80 percent of his teams TDs
Lamar doesn't even have 30 lol
Lamar always has to walk through fire for him to get his credit & it’s really insane.
Loses JK & multiple offensive linemen however the questions asked amongst media (WEEK 5) “Are The Ravens getting their $ Worth From Lamar 🤔?”
Gets a brand new wr corps & oc however doesn’t receive the same grace as other Qb’s when the offense doesn’t gel EARLY in the szn. 8 drops from his wideouts in a loss.
Healthy he’s the most dynamic QB in the game bar none & I’m a Rams fan saying this.
Lamar is a Tier 1 QB not matter how hard you want to hate. MVP worthy again.
Well when you put into thought that Gus edwards has 13 touchdowns, that’s why he not at 30 passing. They just tryna win games
We couldn't get Lamar on the ground. ..and the Niners have a great Defense. If you rush up the field, Lamar is gonna step up and take off running. If you clog up the gaps, Lamar is gonna stand back there all day and pick your Secondary apart. Your fromt four on the D-Line literally has to Win at the same time. Smother the pocket under three seconds across the board and close the space around him. That is hard to do consistently. But you have to take something away. You can't give him both options.
Ravens are beating teams up not just beating them BIG DIFFERENCE
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Every week we have to watch, y'all move the goal post when it comes to Dak Prescott and all he does is ball out...
And people are forgetting that LJ hasn't had his best weapon on the field for weeks (Mark Andrews) and is still beating these teams. I do want him to make it to the SB so the haters can go find something to do.
What I Love about this convo if you zoom out is this: Because of the nature of how Lamar is winning this award and how his team is thriving, he’s making us truly look at football as a TEAM sport. He doesn’t need to have the best stats, but because of how much of threat he is and how unselfish he is, when you play the ravens, you have NO idea how you’re gonna get beat, which players are gonna eat and how Lamar will operate. He uses his whole team. And they FEED off of him and destroy opponents. That’s the essence of an MVP
You contradicted yourself, but go on.
@@TreyPuga you’re right. But the contradiction is why we have the controversy. If Lamar wins out and gets the bowl, without achieving mind blowing INDIVIDUAL playoff stats, maybe you’ll Understand.
@@livennlearn No. the contradiction is “Team Sport” when Lamar IS the offense. 49ers are LITERALLY a team with
*4 players with 1,000+ yds*, multiple players being so effective.
THAT is what you’re speaking of- the 49ers, NOT Ravens. 🤦🏽♂️
@@TreyPuga enough back and forth 🥱. Just sit back and enjoy the show.
33-19 such a good team 🤡@@TreyPuga
Josh Allen being in the mvp conservation is hilarious lmaoooo
Lamar doesn’t care at all about the MVP. All he cares about is winning. He’s said that over and over.
The Ravens are a collective. Everybody contributes. We saw that in stunning fashion yesterday when they curbstomped the Dolphins.
No one there cares about stats. They’re focused on getting to the Super Bowl.
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Lamar is the MVP handsdown.
Currently Lamar has 29 total TD (pass and rush) with 7 interceptions (Ratio - 4.14). Josh has 42 total TD (pass and rush) with 16 interceptions (Ratio - 2.62). Meaning Lamar throws one pic every 4.14 TDs. Josh throws one pic every 2.62 TDs. Just saying....
Lamar is more efficient with way less pass attempts
Bills taking the ball outta Josh hands is the reason they are winning..
You guys are all morons😂 now do Lamar’s fumbles. A turnover, whether it’s a pick or fumble, is still a turnover.. Josh has 17 total turnovers and Lamar has 13. While Josh has 13 more TD’s. I’ll take 13 more touchdowns over 4-5 TO difference all day. Lamar defense is absolutely nasty and giving them phenomenal opportunities with good field position. Josh doesn’t always get that opportunity.. outside of this weekend against the pats he hasn’t had that.. diggs has been below average as of late and JA accounting for 84% of teams success and touchdowns. Throw away the garbage “give it to your rb inside the 5 instead keeping it and stat padding” becuase they’ve done that multiple times and got stuffed so they give it to Josh and he scores.. it’s that simple lol. I love Lamar but Josh is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER on and to his team. Lamar is great, absolutely.. but Tyler Huntley also had a perfect passer rating this week too😂 Josh also had a perfect passer rating against the dolphins… Lamar doesn’t deserve a second MVP before Josh gets his first with the last 4 of Josh’s seasons having 40+ TD’s and getting snubbed on all of em. Those things matter
Dak having a better year than both
@@adrianedwards6046no he ain’t. He got his team to the best record and locked the number one seed down.
8 has autonomy, Monken gave it to him and Harbaugh has cosigned the decision. Great call and the GM (Ozzie's protege), EDC looks like a genius with every move he made.
Only reason Dak not leading is because of his loss to the Dolphins and how he lost to the 49ers but statically Dak killing Lamar and Josh. Dak will never get his just due
MVP has always been the best player on the top team. The reason Dak cannot win is not because of his stats, but because Cowboys is not a top tier team this year.
@@MyMovie58582 seed in the NFC isn’t a top tier team?? 🤨
@@MrAWeezy86 not this season. #2 in NFC probably means #4 or 5 in the league, and that won't win the MVP unless the QBs for the #1 and #2 teams are very weak.
@@MyMovie5858 Dallas is the 4th best team in the league. Statistically the QB’s in the 3 spots ahead of him isn’t better than Dak. He’s out pacing Lamar, Brock, and Tua.
@@MrAWeezy86 2 seed is a top team but not when it’s Dak and Dallas. You know these so called sports analysts bias. They bringing up Josh Allen and this man leading the league in INT 😂😂 last year they was crucifying Dak
this Ravens team is truly a family. 💜🖤
Lamar has significantly more passing yards and a higher completion percentage than he did during his 2019 MVP season. While he has fewer rushing yards, he is his team's leading rusher and leads all players with 5.5 yards per rush attempt.
Against all other candidates. When LJ played against them. He was the best player in the game.
I’m not gonna lie at 8:06, when I heard the Jogging line, I immediately thought of Lamar’s throwing stance every time he throws a pass-- my man looks like he’s jogging in place… and the way he does a quick extension and just as quick release, he don’t even look like he threw the ball, or even threw it with the right amount of power-- and yet we see the ole’ pig-skin thrown like 30-50 yards down field-- it’s crazy. Lamar stepped up his game this year to the point where he has made himself the definitive X factor in every game he plays-- and uses his abilities outside the pocket as what they should be: not just a threat, no, a promise-- because if you let him run, he can still capitalize and throw it, but if you come at him, he can still throw it, and get outta the way. For real, with the environment of the league this year, I don’t think teams have a good enough answer for the multi-tiered threat Lamar is this year, save for a 5-man blitz… and even with that, the Ravens in every game now, are looking like they’ll be prepared for that too.
Lamar gave everybody crazy work !!!
Go back and look at the 3 games the Ravens lost. LJ8 was balling but the play calling dropped off after half and the defense was tripping. LJ8 been fire all year long even with hurt players around him. He throwing the ball to 5 different wide outs and three different TEs it’s nutz. The Mike Vick experience is in another level right now. We need LJ8 Nike shoe please!
I swear
This is the only sports show I watch on regular TV, other than that I’m watching podcasts! Great show!
6:20 mark
I had to rewind it like 20 times because Acho and Shady knew they was dead wrong picking the 9ers
All he needed was to learn to be in the pocket and it’s over with.. welp now it’s over with😂😂😂
What Lamar needed was a good offensive line to give him time to throw the ball an decent wide receivers to catch the ball an in the off season the ravens went out a got that for Lamar Jackson, now Lamar is playing like he played in college he was always a good passer of the football he just needed the pieces around him to be successful in the passing game an now he has that, it's obvious people that said negative things about Lamar passing game never watched his college career, this is who he was in college a great runner an passer of the football.
Acho trying so hard once again to convince himself not to vote for Lamar
Just don’t vote for him
Numbers don’t tell the full story
Joy looks soooo good 😍😍😍
Purdy is getting paid under 1M. The definition of MVP is worth. The best value for their dollar is the guy breaking franchise records AND getting paid the least.
It is an award about the most value!
Lamar's overall Stats dont matter! The Ravens are the 2nd highest scoring offense and are 4th in total Yard, none of these stats happen if lamar isnt under center.
It wasn't that "Lamar only has 29 TDs" it was "Lamar only needed 29 TDs to lead the Ravens to the best record in the League". Lamar is brutally efficient at Football.
Joy Taylor spoke facts wow she stepped her game up great take 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Don’t convince anyone anything about the RAVENS! Please continue all the hate most everyone has had all year.. we like it that way!!! Let’s go B-More… BULLY BALL TIME!!!
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After beating the 49ers the Ravens can't claim the underdog. Now, the 49ers are the underdog with a chip on their shoulder and something to prove.
@being, Ravens have felt the same way since the 2019…
Throwing 5 TD’s easily made him mvp
Finally someone saying what everyone has been saying in the comments. Its not most stat player, its most valuable player. Thank you for saying irlt Ms. Joy
Like 98 % of the time is though.
James Jones looking like Teddy Telling the girls come on and go with me come on over to my place❤😅😊
if stats were the deciding factor for MVP they'd need to take turnovers into consideration as well. Josh Allen tosses it to the defense pretty often. and while the entire season matters...recency bias is hard to ignore. Josh barely got a win over the Chargers and Patriots while Lamar eviscerated the 49ers and Dolphins.
Josh Allen has 27 passing touchdowns. Why is it that they keep saying Lamar has 24 passing touchdowns but when they bring up Josh Allen, they say he has 40+? Not to mention Josh Allen has 16 interceptions.
Allen has 42 total TDs
Most games in a single season with 1 pass and 1 rush TD at 11
And 15 rush TDs most by a QB in a season. He accounts for 85 percent of Bills TDs.
Lamar don't even have 30 tds lol
The problem is nobody knows what the Qualifications for winning MVP are.
Best take on the MVP race for this season I have heard. This accurately address all those who continue to use stats as their argument on why Lamar shouldn't get MVP (*cough* RICHARD SHERMAN *cough*). Unbiased, realistic view of this year's season.
Sherman's take on this is hot 🗑️
Dude the fact they have that record and obvious strength makes his lesser TDs EVEN MORE VALUABLE. I dont know how we look at that as a negative. He literally won more games with less touchdowns. Those touchdowns are literally more valuable because there are less of them but they still have SHINE. Think of a smaller than average diamond with more clarity and a better cut.
Stop with the Josh Allen MVP talks. Dude turns the ball over too much and had a mediocre game. Lamar, Purdy, Dak, Hill CMC in that order. Josh Allen’s team is 6th in the AFC stop the bs.
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Well, it's Lamar's trophy now. Unless the NFL refs from the Lions' game makes a last second call.
Lamar sucks. Hes on a great team
Defense
#1 takeaways
#1 sacks
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How can you be mvp with like 3,500 yds 24 tds 7 ints 11 fumbles lol
Dak
Purdy
CMC
All have way better cases
This isn't college like " O he won the head to head "
Purdy is #1 seed 4,200+ yds and 30+ tds
Lamar has never even thrown for 4,000 yds in 6 years , and only over 3k in 2 seasons haha. Hes getting the mvp bc hes black. That simple.
If Josh Allen had 24 tds and 3,500 yds theyd talk about hes a bust.
Joy is so freaking fine
Lamar gave the league that crazy work😂
Lamar makes it look easy. No.1 MVP right now.
Y’all killed this topic especially James and joy 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
The MVP is a regular season award and all you analysis are haters, Dak Prescott have to go out there with a suspect defense that cannot get stops, lackluster wide receiver play so much so that Gallup had to be benched...
Josh Allen have a lot of TDs he also have almost 20 turnovers, 20, can you say 20 turnovers
Jimmy Johnson used to say fumbles and interceptions are losing plays, and once cut a player bc he fumbled the ball
Y'all really hype and hyping up that a more experience quarterback took down a rooky quarterback,y'all should look at y'all selves
Joy is a hypocrite 😂 when Dak was leading in MVP she asked what is he number 1 in ? She is not saying that for Lamar 😂 the defense is carrying the ravens not Lamar 😅
Lamar’s the mvp. He could’ve padded his stats like guys like Allen but he choose to give it to Gus the bus. That’s why he’s the mvp.
Dak still MVP I guess stats Don't count 24 touchdown not MVP level y'all sound crazy AF😂
Why do we have so many questions trying to justify it? It’s just Lamar is great that’s it
Of course there will be questions when the qb doesn't lead or is at at the top in no qb categories besides running yards. Mvps usually have top stats .
@@soda8736 not if you watch the games you wouldn’t. That’s why Italy everyone says the same thing regarding it. Just watch
@@shondaleblack9539 people see different things, stats are objective..A lot of people are memorized with wow plays which Lamar does,but his numbers say his a game manager this season, and the teams defense and running game dont get enough credit..
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Can you imagine all of them at a bar together. 😂
Todd monken would of ran the ball last year with gus an beat the Bengals....Ravens been this good‼️
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She looks so amazing
I love Lamar Jackson but the Ravens dont need him to have a good game to win.He has a good running game and a helluva defense.Dak is doing what he doing without a running game.Dak has to play a great game for the Cowboys to win.
Brutha James Preach ON my brutha! Joy you are so right and my good LAWD, mmm, mmm, mmm! God Bless you guys, yes you too Acho and McCoy. Happy New Year everyone.
Give Lamar that much deserved MVP. Stop playing.
Fields is trending to outperform Hurts next year. Just watch
It's over. Lamar is the MVP. Period.
Lamar been like this it’s just Todd Monken changed life in Baltimore
he got more passing yards then his mvp season and he still got almost 100o yds rushing with 29 tds total when you put it ll together its mvp season
She keeps bringing up josh allen like he matters lmao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lamar Jackson has end it.. if You changed the criteria from all the other Qbs that won the MVP....including the 1st time He won it. So if people will say yes they changed the criteria so He is the MVP....then I agree.
One season Aaron Rodgers beat out Tom Brady for mvp an Tom had a better season an threw more touch downs than Aaron Rodgers so they are not changing the criteria for Lamar Jackson , mvp is really about how valuable you are to your overall teams success, an without Lamar Jackson the ravens are not even in the playoff pitcher
@@CharlesWilkinson-yc3dm You don't read well. I said 1st, or 2nd. Rodgers was 2nd. Try reading before commenting. Lamar Jackson is 7th. Not 1st, or 2nd, but 7th. Let Me say again. 7th in overall tds, and 3rd in overall yards. Not 1st, and or 2nd. 7th.......7th. LoL 😂. So yes the criteria is being changed. If people admit they will change the criteria....I will be fine with it. If not. You are lying to yourselves.
Acho just keeps bringing up the passing TDs. Smh. Hater! Lamar is the best player on the field everytime he steps on the field, PERIOD
Did they not lose 3 games 🤔🤔🤔
Joy so fine smh...
Top 3 mvp candidates are
Lamar
CMC
Dak
Flip it and you got it right
FINALLY someone points out majority of Gus’ TD’s are essentially Lamar’s too, Sherman talking about “not enough TD’s for MVP” 🤦♂️😂
I would hope the sports writers when they vote will able to perceive this. 👀🏆🗳
If you look at the NBA Steve Nash Won Mvp with 15ppg over Shaq
What happened in the games the Ravens lost?
One word….YES!