Review & Sound Test Of EVERSOLO A6, A6 ME, A8 - Unexpected results!
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- Review & Sound Test Of EVERSOLO A6, A6 ME, A8 - Unexpected results!
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0:00 - Eversolo A6 vs. Eversolo A6 Master Edition
02:32 - Sound Demo - Eversolo A6 vs. Eversolo A6 ME
08:31 - Eversolo A6 ME vs Everosolo A8
11:11 - Sound Demo - Eversolo A6 ME vs Everosolo A8 with Weiss DAC 204
13:58 - Eversolo A6 ME vs Everosolo A8 - Which sounded better.
15:55 - Sound Demo - Eversolo A6 ME vs Everosolo A8 - Internal DACs
19:30 - Eversolo A8 - DSP
20:40 - Extra LPS for the A6/A6 ME
22:44 - Eversolo as a CD Player
23:44 - The Best Eversolo Streamer is ...
Watch the video to listen to my feedback on all of those units. You can find my opinion there as well as sound test demo of the units compared.
The Eversolo DMP-A6, Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition, and Eversolo DMP-A8 are all digital music players that offer exceptional sound quality and a range of features. The Eversolo DMP-A6 is the base model, while the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition is an upgraded version of the DMP-A6. The Eversolo DMP-A8 is the most advanced model of the three.
The Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition offers several upgrades over the base model, including a more powerful power supply, improved clock circuitry, and a higher-quality digital-to-analog converter (DAC). The Eversolo DMP-A8, on the other hand, has a larger display, a fully balanced preamp section, and supports both RCA and XLR inputs and outputs .
Some suggest that the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition offers a more refined and detailed sound compared to the base model and that the Eversolo DMP-A8 offers a warmer and more lifelike sound compared to the Eversolo DMP-A6. With That I can agree, but there is in my opinion a star in the middle - Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition
A post on MartinLogan Audio Owners Forum suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A8 is a larger version of the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition and includes ARC HDMI and many upgrades. The post also suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition has a bunch of upgrades over the base model.
A on AV.com suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A8 offers a more spacious and warmer sound compared to the Eversolo DMP-A6. The review also suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A8's fully balanced preamp section enables more flexibility when setting up your hi-fi system ⁴.
A post on Audio Science Review compares the Eversolo DMP-A6, Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition, and Eversolo DMP-A8. The post suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A8 is the most advanced model of the three and offers a more refined and detailed sound compared to the Eversolo DMP-A6. The post also suggests that the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition offers a more refined and detailed sound compared to the base model.
In summary, the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition offers several upgrades over the base model, while the Eversolo DMP-A8 is the most advanced model of the three. The Eversolo DMP-A8 offers a more spacious and warmer sound compared to the Eversolo DMP-A6, while the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition offers a more refined and detailed sound compared to the base model. Ultimately, the choice between these models depends on your personal preferences and budget. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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thank you for your efforts, excellent job on the recording quality you put others to shame, this its a fantastic dimension to your reviews, many reviewers give their subjective opinion but its very hard to know if their listening experience/preference matches mine. i have been building my own dacs and amps for many years plus speaker building so i would say i have a fairly objective ear that generally agrees with measured data. What is very interesting is i listen then make my own summary of which i like the best and note down what i think is better or worse then i listen to what you have to say and 95-99% of the time we agree.
Really useful content! I'm glad you had the opportunity to compare all three, and thank you for sharing the results with us.
Thank you for your positive feedback. It gives me plenty of energy to push forward 😉
Excelente comparison.
The best I heard until today. The music samples between the 3 devices show the differences. Very good audio. 👏👍
Glad you liked it! and I hope you'll enjoy more videos that are coming ;)
Very informative video…really like the seamless comparisons…quality of audio capture. Thanks again.
My pleasure 😁 Thank you for leaving your comment and feedback 🙂
Wow... Your recording quality is awesome! The best on the internet! THANKS
OMG your. Mic audio capture is shockingly excellent!
Thanks you very much for the demo. Your comparison helped me decide to go for the A6 Master, over the A8..., why? because I heard the some differences, but the difference is not enough for me to justify the additional cost of A8. I was leaning towards the Master before I found your channel. I can't wait to hear it in my system. Please note if I could hear the differences on my Mac, I can't wait to hear it in my system. Thanks for your time and efforts, bringing this video to us. Have a blessed days.
Thank you for testing. I changed from A6 to A6ME on my external Denafrips DAC. Same results as in your Video for me.
Thank you for sharing. Glad I could help. Which Denafrips DAC are you currently using ?
Did you sell the a6? If so, through trade in or online marketplace?
Had the a6 me and upgraded to a8. No external dac. Going directly into McIntosh power amp via xlr. In my system, a8 sounds much better. Bigger sound stage with a more analog sounding presence. Good detail and separation of instruments. Sound is more warm compared to a6 me.
Thanks for sharing 😃
Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you! A6 ME on it's way!
Thank you for the video, it was very informative and helped me decide which Eversolo streamer to get. I also have open baffle speakers (PAP Quintet 15), terminator 2 DAC, Audio Research Ref6 and Rogue Audio 180 monos. But I have been using my cheap laptop with win 11, as a streamer, thanks to you I ordered A-6 master edition. Planning on upgrading the power supply soon, as an option is available to do this. Thanks, I have become a subscriber as well, well done on your good work.
Glad it was helpful! your system is very interesting for sure. Yes the A6 ME compared to the Laptop will be a very nice upgrade and wit PAP you will definitely hear the difference ;) Let me know how it worked out once you get it :)
Thank you, this review is clear and not putting price ahead of the output
Thanks. Yes I definitely try not to judge the checkbook by its cover ;)
Awesome video, thank you... One can just regret you didn't compare the two A6 with their own Dac as you did with the Master and A8. Curious of this one...
Just discovered this video and thank you for the content. I've had a A6ME for 10 months and really enjoy it. However internal DAC is a bit bright for my taste and I have paired it with A Gustard X26Pro with Gustard U18 DDC which is a significant improvement over internal Dac. I did notice on the video a difference between the A6ME and the A8. The difference with the Gustard is a level above both.
@VirtualHiFi - Excellent video and incredible work investigating (and sharing!) the recorded comparisons. Question: DSP aside, on the A8, did you find that changing the DEFAULT filter setting from "Short Delay-Sharp Roll-Off" to "Slow Roll-Off" helped with the "artificial" sound and artifacting? (TERRIBLE choice for a filter default, unless Eversolo assumes that you have a "MUSHY" and unresolving chain that the A8 has to "cut through" to create an illusion of resolution...) [edit] Excellent tip on the CD capability! Thank you.
After listening 5 times I have change my mind. Now I like the internal DAC of ME a little bit more than the internal DAC of the A8 in this particular system.
Jeszcze raz, świetne nagranie !
Thank you for sharing your opinion I dziękuję za pozytywną moc ;)
I have used the Eversolo A6 ME for a week now, what an improvement over my dell pc running win 11. Very dark background and vocals to die for, and very pinpoint of instrument placement. I could even hear the singers breathing. Remarkable improvement for low cost, I have retired my laptop for good. Thank you. Just a small request can you please make a video comparing the Eversolo AMP F-2 to your other class D amplifiers you have? Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your feedback and experiences. I'll try to do the amp review as well ;) that is a good idea ;)
I wake up this morning and ask me which is the right eversolo for me. And now i am looking yt and see your content. Cool. I Like your content very much.
Thank you very much 😊
Thanks a lot ... Excellent Review...wow!!!
My pleasure! ;)
I have owed A6, A6 ME and now A8..... To me they are all good, the Sabre Dac in the A6's are ok, but the A8 sounds better if your not using a external dac, the AKM dac are much better to "me" than the A6's.. The A6 ME is very good if your using an external dac, the A8 steps up the game in the Dac arena if your not using an external dac.
thanks for sharing. It makes total sense ;)
What if you use the i2s out on a8 to external dac compared to a6 ME USB audio out
Very usefull👍
The biggest perk of the A8 is its awesome implementation of the relay volume control and the r2r analogue pre-amp.
Would you ever connect an external DAC to the A8?
I was watching this in anticipation of buying an Eversolo.. However.... After hearing your speakers WOW! If they sound that good on youtube I can only imagine in my room.. No Eversolo until I can afford your speakers!
Very helpful. Thanks.
Thank you for watching 😊
We are debating between the A8 and A6 Master so this was helpful. I tend to agree with your findings.
Thank you for your feedback. Yes the differences are easily noticable and have impact on system character ;)
Interesting review, although our system's and possibly taste are different. My system like yours is as neutral as I could get except that I have an integrated valve amp so as far as posible I can rely on my choyes of valve's to influence my sound.
Your description of the A8 as not having the same tonal richness of the A6 master therefore is a plus to me.
Also as it happens if a sound engineer walked into my room they would be horrified as my other hobby is keeping tropical fish so varios reflective glass surfaces. my feeling is that part luck part design I have created sound traps at the points where a sound treated room would place "Audio sound traps" the so called first reflection points. Trying DSP there fore would be particularly interesting to me to compare and possibly learn about my rooms normal acoustics.
PS I know others disagree with me but to me whether I'm listening on my sound system or my tv it is still my speakers I'm hearing so I like your opinions, comparisons and user experience but I never listen to sound comparisons .Though your recording sounded much better than most (verry clear)I still did not hear any difference though my tv.
Looks like A6 ME has "meaty" character, A8 and A6 more natural sound. So thank you for great presentation and great video!
Great insights
Thank you :)
Good job on the recording… I completely preferred the stand alone A6MA over using it with the audio external DAC. Next time use the same music for all A-B comparisons. There just isn’t any audible advantages using the external DAC combination for the extra cost! The A6ME is a steal!!!
Thank you for sharing your comment and feedback. Glad you like the A6ME ;)
Useful in many ways. I am using my Macbook Pro and running it through my Oppo UDP-205 to stream using Roon and Qobuz to stream and listening through some older speakers: B&W 802 Matrix Series 3 with Marantz AV7706 and the Marantz MM7705 for my system.
1st time on your channel, thanks for this comparison. In your setup, A6ME appeals to my ears. By the way, the switch between the streamers was seamless, I'm curious how did you do it?
Thanks for the comment and feedback ;)
I record the videos and in editing software perfectly align the videos underneath ach other and slice it and delete consecutively upper and lower part that way I can get the perfect seamless transitions :)
I own the Eversolo DMP-A6 ME with LPS-A6 - WOW! Now I have paired it with the Eversolo dac-z8. A very good setup for me.
Great to hear that. I must try the DAC as well ;)
I'm curious. Do you hear any difference between the internal and external dac? ME with its upgrade should pretty much be more or less the same dac. Adding the LPS I would think Z8 became redundant?
Bought my son an A6, which he told me to use until May. Been feeding a Macintosh with my CD collection from a vault2 (Bluesound), and a substantial album collection, but between ears damaged from years of playing bass with very loud drummers, chainsaws, and guns, (and having recorded and mixed more than 40 cd’s in my personal studio), I can just barely hear any difference between the two A6’s. That being said, I will likely buy an A6ME in May, as I like the basic interface, and may hear a difference in my listening room (and really, the price difference is minor compared to the cost of some other streamers out there). The comparison between albums and an A6 is a study in slight digital artifacts that I wouldn’t notice without doing an A/B test. I think the things you don’t really like about the A8 is actually that the unit is good to the point where you may be starting to hear the digital artifacts in the source material…sometimes more is not better.
That might be it since yes I could start hearing the sound being a bit more digital. I have revealing open system and it was over the top for sure. The HiFi Rose RS130 had very similar balance, but did not share the same character.
This is an excellent comparison, well done and I know this takes a lot of work video and audio wise to put this together. Well done. I'm a newbie and was savings up for the Hifi Rose Rs130 love the big screen and vu meters but ever solo makes it hard to justify spending the cash there at hifi Rose. Question: Do the VU meter actually move according to the sound output or do they move randomly?
Love my A6 running through my RME ADI dac. Dont tempt me with the Master Edition!
Just borrow it one day and check since if you need denser richer more analogue sound it's one of the ways of getting there for sure 😁
Maybe do the power supply upgrade for your current model? I have the a6 ME and bought PD Creative linear power supply. It absolutely transformed the Me a6 to a machine I sort of " had to " like to a machine that I really love. the differences are worth every $$$ . Linear power supply is a great upgrade to get rid of harshness and digital sound and move it towards a much more warm, open, spacious sounding analogue sound. Not sure if you'd get quite the same upgrade experience on the a6 but I'm sure it's the best upgrade you could do. Power cables make a difference too. They can very much change the overall sound of any device.
The A6 ME works very well with Denafrips DDC and DAC ,it sounds amazing. Later I will upgrade the LPS but as it is , it’s already up there.
Thanks for sharing. I like the Denafrips DACs as well ;)
Thanks for this. Interesting. I always considered these streamers for digital out only, and thought the 6 ME was the best choice for use with an external DAC. The possibility of PSU upgrade is also a big plus. The section with the CD player comparison was very relevant, too.
Thank you very much for your feedback and sharing your experiences. Yes eversolo just as a streamer is a great device at its budget 😁
Listening again, with a different system, now I heard the A8 being slightly more natural, but both have some small shoutiness. I liked them more with their internal DACs for that reason, albeit a bit more smeared. For the price, I'd still choose the A6 ME with an LPS since I'd only need the digital out.
awesome video. i have the a6 with lhy power supply, definitely worth the upgrade. yes the master is better, it sounds similar to adding the denafrips iris to my a6 to the external dac . i believe better clocks are a definite improvement.
Thank you for sharing your feedback :)
Interesting comparison. Thanks! And what do you think of those three as preamps compared to something like Rotel RC-1572 for example?
Sorry cant help here since I have not heard the Rotel :)
im happy that i ordered the A6 Me today, the A8 seems negligent for the price increase... lets see. thanks for this audio test
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy your new streamer 😁
Good one thanks. The size of the A8 makes the A6ME a better bet for me.
I installed the LHY linear supply on my Bluesound Node (N130) so I know that particular upgrade works well and look forward to your review of the A6ME with the new linear power supply installed before I consider any moves. I have a simple Topping E70 Velvet DAC on my Node but may go the R2R route in the future. Kind of like the BluOs app so am hesitant to make the step up with Eversolo unless it is a great difference from the Node.
thank you for your positive comment.
I'll share my findings on the PSU upgrade for sure. r2r DACs can be great and I'll have my friend coming soon with denafrips streamer and Holo r2r Dac so I'll share my findings on that as well ;)
I had a blue sound for some time but I sold it before I had a chance to listen to compare those two.
But it can be a good idea for a video as well ;)
Thanks for your reply. I look forward to your coming videos.@@VirtualHiFi
i have had both bluesound and a6 . i like the eversolo app better and feel it is easier to use than the bluesound. and i think the a6 is far better in sound quality.
thanks for sharing ;) I have to check the Bluesound node X then. I had the Node before but did not compare it against other ones.
Agreed on the Eversolo app above better than Bluesound. Obviously better sounding too.
I had the ME at first with my monitor audio platinum 100 3g and my headphones hifiman arya stealth and a topping a90d. I liked the sound from both sourses. Then i traded in my ME to an a8. Definitley better sound from a8. I sold my topping, and i am still waiting for my new ifi audio pro ican studio. A newer model of signature, so i have not tested the a8 with my headphones yet. I even bought eversolos 2ch amp f2 for my monitors. For what i heard you did not mention about the a8 has loads more settings than the other two.
Thank you for your feedback. Indeed I try to concentrate on the sound as much as possible. Al the settings and features are a bit secondary to me, provided I can use it comfortably (apps etc). I believe there are systems that will benefit from the sound character of the A8 for sure. My use case is that I use extrenal DAC anyway and I liked the a6Me characted as a streamer a bit more :)
Thanks a lot for your testing. What amplifier did you use in this test?
This is my experimental D-class amplifier that I'm working on and it's based on the TPA3255 chip that I find to be totally stunning. My most recent Fosi ZA3 video the amps are also using the TPA3255 chip - th-cam.com/video/LWft9BX0fLQ/w-d-xo.html
I have an a6 connected to a Gustard R26 via USB. Great combo imo.
Very nice! THANKS FOR SHARING :)
I have the same exact setup and concur these two are perfect together. In his demo I preferred the standard A6.
Thanks for posting the streamer-only comparisons. Most reviewers tend to just gloss over this comparison. Via IEM's, I think a lot of your impressions come from what I heard, which is A6 Master has a more pronounced upper-to-mid bass, way more than A6 and mildly more than A8, so A6 Master will give more richness to vocals and more punch and that "analogue" groove. I believe this is a pleasant coloration, more like good vinyl, but if I had A8, I would use non class-D amps to balance things out and end up with slightly more resolution than A6 Master. JIMHO.
Exactly true that ;) A8 is a great streamer as well you just might need to follow different route to get there ;)
I hear a lot or ringing in the piano part of the demo song about 17 minutes or so but it could be the recording mic ...? a slight hardness in the female voice reverb
Which would be better if used as the main device for drying music from a hard drive? a6 and a6me? there is a big difference in sound, is there any reason to overpay for 6me?
I have just replaced my thirty year old stereo system with the Yamaha A-S3200 integrated amplifier and Klipsch Forte IV speakers. I am now getting into streaming, but being short on cash I purchased an Echo Link. It is functional, but I want a better streaming experience, so after doing my research as to which streamer would best accomplish what I want in a sound system I've decided to purchase the A6 Master as soon as possible. Thank you for the video and I could definitely hear the difference between the A6 and the A6 Master.
Thank you for your comment and congratulations on your decision. Eversolo is a great sounding, looking device with a very good app so I'm sure you will be very happy ;)
The A-6 Master arrived three days ago and what an improvement, well beyond night and day. The Forte IV's sound reproduction and expanded soundstage is amazing.@@VirtualHiFi
Interesting
Got to wonder how this cd reader comparison worked. Jitter, speed stability and more about signal timing and noise management are questions I have…
I'll try to do a test Sam day - high end transport vs eversolo + CD ;)
Hi What is the name of your USB DAC ? Thank you Wayne
no i namowiłeś , ale na zabawkę z wcześniejszego odcinka🙂
Cieszę się bardzo :) Ze bedziesz mógł się świetnie bawić ;)
I own the A6 Master Edition. I think the internal DAC is pretty good. Good soundstage and natural. In my experience it is worthwhile exploring its filtering options. However, I found the bass range to be too warm and colored for my taste no matter which filter I used. I use it USB out to a PS Audio DS MKll DAC and found digital heaven. Can’t imagine ever needing to upgrade to anything else.
glad you are very happy with the sound. this is the most important thing in the end. congratulations 🎉
Looking forward to the LHY LPS in your A6 ME hope you can do a comparison between the A8 and A6 ME with LPS fitted, from your video i like the sound of the A6 ME over the A8 but like the extra feature on the A8 , i wonder if there will be a A8 master edition released later ?
I'm sure they will do A8 ME because why not ;)
The LPS already landed so I'll be abl not listen to it quite soon ;)
Amazon Link of the external hp cd please?
Great video! Using my A6ME as preamp/dac/Streamer for my Nad C298. How much better is the preamp in the A8? What can I expect? Better sound at lower volume or the hole range? I wish someone could test the preamp function also, like you did with streamer/dac in this video.
Do I need at better preamp or dac or both?
I'm actually quite happy with my system as it is. I have the old (but gold?) Dali Grand speakers.
Thank you very much for your comment. Sounds like you have a great setup and ae truly happy with it. I did not test the Eversolo as a pure preamp so hard to tell that. Since you are happy with everything, and You did not mention having external DAC I would definitely go for If I were you. Talk to your local dealers if you can borrow few and listen which one you like most. And if you have a chance to put Weiss DAC204 give it a try. It's really something else ;)
Do the linear power supply upgrade. Then you wont be worried is better. It's a great upgrade and will transform your a6 ME into a much nicer sounding unit. I did the PD Creative power supply upgrade.
I like the organic sound of the A6ME. As you say, the A8 sounded a bit more digital.
The A6ME, while it may have a narrower soundstage, I felt that it had a slightly deeper soundstage than the A8.
However, I felt that the A6ME offered lesser sound resolution than the A8. If I have to choose between the two, I would be torn.
Maybe a future A8ME will be the absolute sweet spot!
Do you like the Weiss dac better then A8 internal Dac? Also on rye back of Weiss are you using 10 db or 20 db gain switched on. I just got Weiss in for review and using with dmp-a6 me but have to turn both 10 db and 20 db switches on
No question about it. The Weiss is stunning. It gives so much energy, scale, impact and makes the system sound twice as big. Yes I keep all gain on and regulate the volume with my amp. Looking forward for your feedback on the weiss ;)
All 3 are great units. The A6 and the A6 ME both seem to lack in the mid area, The A6 ME is a definite improvement but just not enough. I really wanted to go for the A6 models due to their bang for buck given the price difference but just couldn't. In the end I went with the A8, it just sounds far more relaxed, rich and superior.
Thank you for your feedback and opinion. Glad that you are happy with your new streamer ;)
Just the review I've been looking for. Another option for a linear power supply is one from Teddy Pardo. I have his i80D that he no longer produces, and was using a Squeezebox touch for internet radio. Now it's no longer supported I need a streamer, I look forward to your review comparing the master upgrade to a linear power supply, and then the master and the linear power supply.
thank you very much for your comment. the review of LPS upgrade is already here ;) th-cam.com/video/Zlsn9JB6Xw8/w-d-xo.html
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks, another great review. If you still have it, could you also compare the A6 with the linear power supply to the Master edition?
Hello,
interesting review and very useful!
May I ask you for comment of music quality incl. pre-amp section of each model? I want to connect (via XLR) directly to my power amplifier (Cambridge 851W).
- today I use streamer Cambridge CXN (v.1) in such direct connection, but I like upgrade (with such simple set up - streamer directly to power amp), but not sure if make sense A8 (or go to other solution/brand..). I am considering also Cambridge CXN100, solution with Simaudio/Moon etc.
Thank you for your feedback, P
Can you share the tracks list played here, thank you.
Do you change the recording method? The Sound in your previous videos with eversolo models was more clear and stereo than this, so i can't say that i hear major differences between the eversolos, any chance to repeat the comparison test with the previous recording?
Yes you heard good, I no longer had the A6 when I tested A8 against the A6 master edition. so those need to be treated 2 different tests. you can see the top rack shelf to have different gear.
I am not sure you get my point, i listen to your videos with headphones, when you test a6 and a6me the sound of the video was complete stereo and neutural and more usefull for us to listen to the differences between the 2 machines, in this video the sound is not the same is more compressed or something and less stereo, in this case it's difficult to listen to the differences between a6me and a8 @@VirtualHiFi
yes thank you. In this particular video please check the top shelf of the rack when I test the a6 vs A6 ME I have different amp to when I had the A8 vs A6Me.
The amp in the first test is my own development and the second test of A8 vs A6ME was done on the Fosi ZA3 which I tested later on ;)
I heard a big difference between the sound from A6 ME and the A8, for me, it sound like the sound from A6ME is more forward and dynamic.
Thank you for this review. I have a NuPrime Stream 9 with Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 (Dac included, but want to improve). Should i go for a A6 ME (in replacement of Stream 9) or keep the Stream 9 and get an Eversolo Dac Z8?
Sure thing. I havent heard the NuPrime Stream, but I had a chance to listen to your Lyngdorf and it was a SoSo experince. Are you using the DSP and room perect thing because it its not absolutely necessary I would look into that as well.
What are your speakers and what is it that you need to upgrade in the sound?
It sort of doesn't make sense to add external DAC to Lyngdorf TDAI 2170 . Better upgrade speakers/subwoofer or add higher quality transport (CD transport or HDD/SSD/streamer transport).
I heard diffrences with my phone speakers.
Going for the ME instead of A6 that was brighter.
You didn’t comment on the R2R volume controller of A8, that’s a big deal for people that don’t want a preamp. A8 direct to amp.
Sure, I did not compare it to other preamps, so for this feature please check other channels
What I can only say that Everything worked as expected and the sound of the clicks was very nice :)
Nice presentation. Thank you. You appear a little dark, maybe more facial lighting?
Thank you, for your comment. Yes I need to experiment some more and find a sweet spot for the lightning but as is adds +10 to the mystery 😜
Wich DAC is better than the A6 ME?
Curious to your thoughts. I have a Mcintosh. C2700 preamp, which has a built in DAC. Therefore, I was planning on using this as a streamer only. Hooked up to Bowers 802 D4 with a McIntosh 462 for power.. The question is whether you feel the streamer in the Eversolo is better than the one included in the Macintosh. You may not have any knowledge, but I’m just wondering. If the streamer is not very good in the McIntosh, does it make sense to get the A8?
Since you have a streamer already and I hope Mcintosh did a decent job the best would be to test it. The Eversolo is very nice when it comes to the sound quality, but im sure it's not the final word in the streamers world :) If you have a local dealer go ask for a loaner unit and setting it up is extremely easy ;)
I actually see it quite differently. Correct me if I am wrong, for the A6 and A6 ME comparison, no external DAC was used right? I actually liked the cleaner sound of the A6 over the A6 ME because I believe once I run the A6 using my own external DAC as well as my amp and speakers, there will be enough "sauce" if you will to make it sound even better. This is much evident when you run the A6 ME and the A8 through your Weiss DAC, once you did that both streamers actually sounded extremely similar. The only difference I could detect was the A8 sounded darker with less noise and I saw that as a product of the much better power supply in the A8.
So, my take is as follows, for me I would pick the A6 without a doubt over the A6 ME and A8. I believe the unbelievable low price point of the A6 is why it is such an attractive package because pound-for-pound in terms of money vs performance I don't think there is a streamer on the market that can beat that. Once you start looking to add more money on top of that sweet spot of a price point in trying to gain extra performance, I think it dilutes why the A6 is so special in the first place. Personally, once you get to that A8 price point, I would be thinking what the heck I might as well go all the way and buy something that I really want like the HiFi Rose RS 130 although of course that is significantly even more than the A8.
He is using the weiss 204 dac and eversolo as streamers only.
Rs130 That is 2,5 times the price of a8, not really a fair comparison, my opinion eversolo’s nicely priced even the a8. Hifi rose to expensive.
@@Cestmoi50 That is why I said I would go with the A6.
@@Rascallucci I tried all three, at the same time, at the shop. And a6 sounded less from all three. A8 sounded the best analogue AND digital. It is annoying, especially if you only want digital, but the difference was easy noticable (on the right high end equipment)
Great discussion guys. Of course it all depends on the gear. I will try to get Rose 130 for the tests here. I believe each of the Eversolo devices has its palce. A6 being the most entry level and great for most who look for such great features that the Eversolo streamers offer. All of them are amaizng to be around and the display, nice working app makes the entry level A6 great. Imo the sound of A6 ME is well worth the extra money. but for some might not. I don't have i2s DAC, not I have a TV and I like the Analogue character of the A6 Me so for me the choice was easy. However being around some other streamers for even more they usability of the eversolo is very nice ;)
What is the best connection between the Eversolo and the external Weiss DAC?
The upgraded Master Edition is very interesting as well
I just checked the USB Optical and Coax and My vote goes for USB and if you are not using DSD and need additional richness Optical was also sounding very interesting :)
@@VirtualHiFi thanks for your feedback 👍
Bardzo dobre porównanie, zgadzam się, _że masters edition brzmi mniej sztucznie i dynamiczniej od 8.
Bravo test
Dziękuję bardzo :)
@@VirtualHiFi
Sporo można jeszcze zapewne wycisnąć z 6ME dodając zasilacz analogowy,czekam na porównanie 😊
Wlasnie probuję ogarenąć zasilacz, zobaczymy jak szybko się to uda, ale po przejściu z seryjnego na liniowy w Weiss 204, różnica jest bardzo duża :)
@@VirtualHiFi
Szkoda ,że 6ME nie ma wejścia hdmi arc,pozostaje optyk z tv,czy jest duża różnica w jakości dźwięku arc a optyk?chodzi o dźwięk dwukanałowy stereo
Hi. Would the DMP A6 or A8 work if connected to a soundbar like a Samsung Q990C?
Check your soundbar inputs, you either need digital or analog inputs like USB, coax, optical, analog RCA and if any is present it should work fine.
Cześć, po Twoich filmach o Eversolo Master Edition zdecydowałem się wypożyczyć go ze sklepu muzycznego i faktycznie zrobił na mnie mega wrażenie 😊
Dzwięk pełny, ciepły, do tego obsługa Tidal connect i ogarnięcie lokalnej muzyki. Chcę go kupić, ale…mam do Ciebie pytanie, bo nie jestem specem.
Mam amplituner kina domowego Onkyo TX-NR7100 i zestaw 5.1 Klipsch z frontami RP-6000F II.
Wybrałem te kolumny z myślą zarówno o kinie jak i muzyce stereo, bo słucham rocka i metalu a Klipsche są do takiej muzy stworzone, nie jestem audiofilem zaznaczam 😉
Jak kupię Eversolo do podłącze analogowe wyjścia RCA do wejścia w Onkyo i będę słuchał w trybie Pure Audio - to podobno najkrótsza ścieżka dla audio w amplitunerze. Ale czy widzisz jakieś inne rozwiązanie, tak aby wycisnąć z Eversolo jak najwięcej? Dodanie końcówki mocy coś rozwiązuje? Muszę mieć możliwość korzystania z pełnego zestawu 5.1 w kinie domowym jak i z Eversolo w stereo. Dzięki z góry za odp.
witam dzięki za komentarz i pozytywną opinię. cieszę się że mogłem pomóc ;)
generalnie jak lubisz posłuchać w stereo i kino to dodatek, to polecam sprawdzić chińskie wzmacniacze w klasie D takie jak Ayima A07 albo Fosi za3 odnośnie których porównanie znajdziesz np tutaj th-cam.com/video/LWft9BX0fLQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Lh-EtTJNwfvHurNY
Te wzmacniacze to wariactwo za tą cenę. wypozycz i porównaj ze swoim amplitunerem jak będzie fajnie to zabawa nie jest droga ;) a jak Ampli się obroni to nie widzę sensu i zostawił bym jak jest ;)
Greg. Ok DMP A6 ME is way more defined and present than the normal version (even though it's throught the WEISS). DMP A8 why not ? is there any filter setting difference as there are some settings ? DMP A8 has larger sound stage than the A6 ME for sure (around 16:50 I put a spell on you Chantal Chamberlan). How does it turn to be after your power upgrade on the DMPA6 ME ? Cable used are RCA or XLR ? does it change something ?
Thanks for the comment. Well the A8 had wider soundstage thats for sure, It was a bit more messy at the same time. instruments were more of a cloud than a pin point easy to locate ones. In my system the detail was over the top, and I did like the A6Me overall more for its analogue rich yet dynamic character. Addin the LHY LPS made the sound more detailed and wider withough loosing the analoginess. I used the USB to go to the DAC since neither of the DAC inside are either bad or great, they are ok to live with while thinking of something more interesting :)
@@VirtualHiFi thank you Greg ! I guess I’m going to audiophonics friends now ! And in a few weeks, my old Tannoy Sterling will be replaced…
Thanks for your great video and comparison. After your video, I was convinced to trade in my standard Eversolo to the Master edition and I already ordered two Fosi Audio's to be used in Dual Mono setup which you use in your video as well, which is just a coincidence (or not 😂). I'm wondering whether changing the OP amps by Staccato or Sparkos in those devices will make a noticeable difference. In one of your other videos regarding the Aiyima you used Staccato Op Amps. Did you already try out Sparkos SS3602's and when yes, what's your opinion about those? Keep up the good work with those videos. Really enjoying them.
Thank you very much for your positive feedback and congratulations on your upgrade ;)
I contacted Sparkos labs few days ago and they are great, so now 6 Sparkos SS3602 are coming to me for testing :) Once I get them Ill definitely give them a try witth the Fosi. The way Fosi is built Staccato wont fit, but I beleive the Sparkos will be great as well. From what I read the Sparkos are a bit more detailed and open than Staccato and that is what in my opinion the Fosi ZA3 exactly need ;)
I think the money for the A8 is ok .
You got more digital and analog inputs.
You got 2 power supplies.
A very nice R2R volume control.
A bigget case perhaps.
And as preamp he works just fine.
On my Canton reference 5k wbt Edition
The A8 works great !
Totally agree A8 has more functionalities it offers it is still amazing deal ;)
Hello, I really like your videos and your excellent sound recording work and I think you would be better heard if you also shared, with a link in your comments, your audio files on a sharing site where we could download them to listen directly without the bad filters of youtube! A short silence, for example, separating the 2 amps to allow us to identify each other, but we can also identify the youtube timecode and note it down to know when it's one amp or the other.
Indeed, when I listened to sound samples from your tests between the DMP-A6 and DMP-A6 Master Edition, I clearly heard a difference in volume in favor of the ME, and for those who listen, a small difference of 0.2 DB makes the loudest listening always better!
after several steps, I recovered your sounds in my studio one software, and curiously enough, I no longer found any difference in sound, so I was able to listen freely. But this remains with compression and other youtube optimizations nonetheless. what do you think?
Hello and thank you for sharing your opinion. There are some volume differences, but they must be there otherwise all devices would sound the same. If one device has way more pronounced midrange than the second one, and I'd match the level to of the midrange the bass and high frequencies would be not as pronounced so it would be worse than the other one while objectively better since with greater natural volume the better the dynamics are at least in that frequency range. So its hard to balance and I use pink noise and SPL meter to match the volumes since that seems the most objective.
When it comes to better quality than YT, I am working on it :)
How can it be hires when analog rca out is 20hz-20khz and not beyond 20khz?
I honestly prefer the sound out of the A6 and definitely wouldn’t pay extra for the A6 ME or the A8
Thank you for your vote. SO you are in the most happy position where you can save the difference ;)
this was geat
Thank you ;)
Differences we can hear over TH-cam compression are subtle. Definitely not worth the 2x price jump. I have used Sennheiser 660 JFYI. From my experience this kind of difference is easily achievable over OpAmp and capacitors replacement.
Yes I agree one can change everything. Bit it's only 1% of diyers and you loose warranty and the opams are soic so soldering is required :(
My system, audiozen embrace amp, audio physic speakers & auralic vega g1, it sounds rubbish compared to any of these set ups 🥲. I’ve been advised the A8 would be an upgrade to the vega g1 ? Listening to this making me think about the a6 master & external Dac, read good things about the Audial s5, any thoughts greatly appreciated. Great channel, now a new subscriber
Hello . Thank you for your feedback. I have not heard the Auralic Vega G1 so I cant really hep you with that. Going for a6me and great external DAC is a good idea though. Streamer is great for the money and the DAC, Well I love my new Weiss 204. The life it brings to the sound is next level. Also the most critical thing are the speakers, so it you want to get miles ahead changing speakers will bring the most dramatic difference.
Appreciate that, speakers I like, also maybe expensive to upgrade. The vega g1 is maybe 5ish years old, has things advanced musically that much in streamer/dacs in a way to give you that wow moment or does it take critical listening to notice the differences?
With the Qualio IQ that I have here you can clearly hear the difference right away. , and if your Audio Physics are good you should be able too hear it too. It's very rare to note really hear the difference instantly, and I would never use such a brave words as I do if the difference wasn't audible at first few notes ;)
Using any of these as a preamp ..would it good??
I'm not a fan of the preamps un those units. In my experience all DAC regulated volume controls more often than not using relays as a switches damage the sound and kill the energy and musicality. I have my eversolo all the way to the max and use a potentiometer in the amplifier.
Which CD reader shall I buy for A6? The external CD/DVD I have only works for computer
I bought a random HP one. My colleague also has I believe a Dell one no nothing special as well :) You can find the instruction in this video - th-cam.com/video/KOBRLhkVLZ8/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=447
It works now! The CD sound is so amazing good! I can hear it all days without fatigue! Thanks for the great tips!🎉
I have A6 as a streamer driving a Denafrips Terminator DAC. Do you recommend me upgrade to A6 ME?
Good video! When the internal DAC is used are they both using the same filter option? Is this slow roll-off or sharp? Thanks
Not sure since I put the devices to factory defaults to start with.
On factory settings a6 is on Sharp Roll-off...while a8 is on Short Delay Sharp Roll-off filter
@@VirtualHiFi I do not have these DACs to test I am afraid but “the British audiophile” channel in a recent video compared the A6 and A8 and mentioned that in this particular DAC the filter setting makes an appreciable difference. Might be worth experimenting.
Thanks for sharing. I'll definitely look into that ;)
This is a good question. The British Audiophile guy says to change the A8 to soft roll-off. Have not experimented with it. I have an A8 and use it as a streamer out to a Chord Qutest. I’ve meant to swap it out and share the internal A8 DAC with my AudioLab CDT9000 transport, but honestly, the energy i get with the Qutest DAC with both the A8 and CDT9000 is so good I’ve just been too lazy to change it!
Eversolo A6 does not have I2S digital output. A8 has one. For the customers interested in later DAC upgrades with this type of interface.
Yeah which other devices carry i2S? I want to get the shanling et3 just for i2s
@@psysword Magna Mano MKII, MKIII, Aune S10N, Holo Audio Red etc.
yes I don't have I2s as well in my DAC however I know that it migh be a game changer for some of us :)
Have you compared the eversolo with any of the Hifi Rose?
Not yet, but I would like to test the Rose 130 for sure ;)
I have a pair of Buchardt A700 actives (class D amps, built in dacs)...Should I go A6 or A6ME as a digital transport?
To me the Master Edition is way better than the Standard A6 - sound difference even as a transport is definitely bigger than the price gap ;)
Thanks for your opinion on this.
I'm currently using a Squeezebox Touch with a Teddy Pardo power supply connected to the Platin hub via coax cable.
Since the whispers coming out that Mysqueezebox is no longer being supported after February, I wonder how long before Logitech Media Server is going to last.
Why is the sound in Mono?
A6 ME has more sparkle imo in the top end. A8 has less on the top end and maybe that is contributing to the sound stage? They are very, very close imo. I don't see that it would be worth it either for the upgrade and the A6 ME sounds better to me.
Could you share the play list you used?
Last title was chantal chamberland from the album temptation
Shazam is your friend.
Very interesting test, but with the speakers I have, around 3000 euros, I don't really feel the difference between the A6 and A8, as if the A8's voice is more crystalline. Again the speakers make the difference....A friend told me after changing many speakers over a period of 40 years, with speakers over 10,000 euros you start to feel the clear difference between different components, DAC, preamplifier, interconnect... Now I have A6 Master with external DAC Topping DX7PRO, it seems more open with DX7, but I can't say for sure. Of course I have to change the speakers...
it's not about the money, and it's not that you need to spend some cash to get there. there are some cheaper stunning speakers that can do you good, as they are great d-class amps that you can get for up to 200$ but yes more money opens more opportunities, however one don't need 10000 in speakers to get there ;)
Speakers are the solution !!!
However you don't need million dollar, you need the good speakers with the good listening room...
Best regards
Totally agree. Look for the niche priducts since most mainstream speakers dont stand a chance compared to what small manufactures can offer sound to price wise :)
I agree, the best sound: Eversolo A6 Master Edition. And a good external DAC.
BTW, I like very much the sound of your Qualio IQ speakers. But.. € 6700. What mics and preamp do you use to get such an excellent sound?
Thanks fot the feedback.
Yes they are not cheap, but they can't be since they compose of the top quality and price components. And we have customers switching from 20-30k$ speakers to the IQ so the value is definitely there ;)
I am using the Schoeps CMC6 MK4 Mics with Zoom F3 32 bit recorder ;)
Thank you for the answer. BTW, for the next demo maybe an orchestral mass?
Yesterday I uploaded three 4k videos. Music from the 24/96 FLAC vinyl rip:
Mravinsky, Leningrad PO - Tchaikovsky - Symphonies Nos 4, 5 & 6 (1961) Vinyl, Deutsche Gramophon 2017, Germany
th-cam.com/play/PLinVzIZAgrHMKX3ullP1jMf5Xlu5okDhO.html
- Greetings from Tarragona (SPAIN) -
@@VirtualHiFi
Thank you for the links.
Unfortunately due to copyrights on this channel I only use music that I got a permission to use by copyright holders. So I cant use other music for now.
A6ME or Volumio Rivo for active speakers? What to choose?
This new video sounds in mono compared to the previous one (DMP-A6 vs DMP-A6ME). In this one there is no soundstage at all. No way to pinpoint instruments placement. Everything sounds in the center.
Due to the sound being in mono , there is no way to compare in terms of soundstage and dimension, both streamers sounds identical.
The only perceptible differences are in tonal qualities due to the nature of both units.
Play both videos alternatively and you will notice the stereo and mono sound difference between both.
Thank you for your comment and feedback. Indeed the first test I recorder before the Fosi amps arrived and i did it using my own D-class amp that I develop - you can see it on the top shelf of the rack. It is definitely more open but less rich and colourful in sound compared to the Fosi ;) I would like to congratulate you because you heard it spotless ;)
I really can’t understand how identical digital transports can sound different? Master edition got extra only in analog part , digital processing is the same. But for me the only value of eversolo a6 A8 and also fiio r7 is that they can stream native apple music hi res via app. They simply integrated android phone in their streamers, would be great if somebody integrate iPhone 😄😄😄
The A6 ME has better clocks than the A6 and that might do the sound difference. Anyway it's definitely there 😁
Definitivamente el EVERSOLO A6 ME es el de mejor Sonido. Recomendaría Probar con un Track de la Cantante Nelly Furtado " SAY IT RIGHT " en este Tack hay Una Combinación muy Particular de Bajos y Percusión SOLO DETECTADO por Amplificadores de Alta Calidad en Amplificadores de Mediana Calidad Distorsiona.
Thank you for your suggestions. I only use music I have copyrights or permission to use in my videos but I know and like the Nelly Furtado track ;)
👍🏻
Thanks :)
I find when connecting my DMP-A6 (which has the LPS fitted) to my M-Scaler/Hugo TT2 combo external DAC, the optical output sounds a lot better than the USB output, it is very noticable difference.
That is cool, thank you for sharing :)
On my Adam Audio T8V the best value/sound was the A6 ME
Great to hear that. thanks for sharing.
Good evening. Can active speakers be connected to the Eversolo A6 via Bluetooth? Thank you.
Hi, That would be counterproductive, Speaker cables are way better at sending the signal than bluetooth. There is no such option built in but maybe a bluetooth USB adaptor will work for you. but that would need to be tested.
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks for the reply
Hello can you give me the Modell name of the HP CD layer , please
Greetings from Germany
Mine in HP GP70N but basically any USB drive will work ;)
Thanks 👍
I have found too of them
With Windows
Or with Android , Eversolo have a Android System
Sorry my english is not so good
Mfg Gerhard
Ever solo uses android and vmcan detect it the USB CD drive with ease.
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks
Good video!
Question - I have the A6-ME and use it as my Pre-amp and streamer to my minidsp (and 2 to DIY dayton sealed subs)and then to my emotiva amp to B&W 805 D3.
Right now i use RCA from mini dsp to both speakers and subs. have been thinking on if the A8 pre-amp is better and if its worth to use XLR to amp and rca to minidsp at the same time if its possible - thanks! :)
If you have such option go ahead and try it ;)
Get any pro XLR interconecets and try them. XLR have higher summary voltage level and can offer better dynamics and less noise thanks to differential action so definitely worth a try ;)
Yea okay now i need to try it out :P@@VirtualHiFi
It's always the best to just try ;)
what are those speakers?
The spekers are Qualio IQ - www.qualioaudio.com