Are High-End Streamers Worth It? I Tested HiFi Rose RS 130 & Auralic Aries G2.2
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- Are High End Streamers Better? I tested HiFi Rose RS 130 & Auralic Aries G2.2
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0:00 - Getting Eversolo A6 ME, HiFi Rose RS130 and Auralic Aries G2.2
01:17 - Streamers Apps Experince
04:46 - Sample 1 - Bob James - Rocket Man
09:32 - Sample 2 - Chalara - This Love
14:04 - Sample 3 - Tsuyoshi Yamamoto Trio - Speed Ball Blues
17:33 - Sample 4 - Chantal Chamberland - Beautiful Life
22:10 - HiFi Rose RS130 vs Auralic Aries G2.2 - The winner is ...
High-End Streamer Showdown: Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition vs. HiFi Rose RS130 vs. Auralic Aries G2.2
In the ever-evolving world of high-fidelity audio, streamers play a pivotal role. These devices bridge the gap between your digital music collection and your ears, ensuring that every note, every nuance, and every sonic detail reaches you in the purest form. In this video, we dive deep into three top-tier streamers-the Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition, the HiFi Rose RS130, and the Auralic Aries G2.2-to unravel their secrets, compare their features, and ultimately decide which one reigns supreme.
Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition
The Eversolo DMP-A6 Master Edition arrives in an elegant brushed aluminum chassis, compact yet sturdy. Its minimalistic design and large 6-inch full-color touchscreen make it a visual delight. The custom Android 11-based interface is intuitive, mimicking smartphone interactions. It’s a shoebox-sized powerhouse that fits seamlessly into any hi-fi rack.
HiFi Rose RS130
The HiFi Rose RS130 boasts a sleek, modern design with a touch of sophistication. Its minimalist front panel houses a crisp display, and the overall build quality is commendable. The RS130’s aesthetics blend seamlessly with any high-end audio setup.
Auralic Aries G2.2
The Auralic Aries G2.2 exudes elegance with its precision-machined aluminum enclosure. Its large, high-resolution display provides a wealth of information at a glance. Auralic’s attention to detail shines through, making the G2.2 a statement piece in any audiophile’s room. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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Thank you!!! You are the best out there!!! You are spot on in every aspect, not fooling around with all the technical, just delivering the facts - sound clips talks for them selves. Do not change anything as your presentation is special. Much appreciated and VERY interesting!
Thank you very much for your amazing feedback. This is truly special and very important since that helps me steer this channel into the best direction. ;) 😁
Excellent review. Not all talk like the other reviewers do, but you demonstrate and let us listen to not one but several genres. The Weiss DAC helped with the SQ which is why they are quite similar in my opinion.
Excellent comparison , excellent quality of recording. I agree with your opinion.
Many thanks! Glad you enjoy it :)
I auditioned the G2.2 last year and ended up buying it as there is a significant improvement over the G2 that I previously owned. I like the tonal balance and the level of detail the G2.2 delivers. It’s also very musical, for want of a better word.
good comparison. does the eversolo power supply upgrade help when used as a streamer with an external dac? I'm wondering if it's worth it for me.
First of all I'd like to see I love your reviews and secondly but just as important your channel along with "new record day" TH-cam channel (and perhaps few other audiophile TH-cam channels), I love the effort you and new record day put in regarding micing up your sessions, so we can hear what you are listening to. You both do excellent micing up. Brilliant... I appreciate the astuteness what you relay to us regarding your findings off the presentation of a particular audio equipment. That being said I would like you to review one more streamer DAC preamp and compare it to what you have reviewed so far and that is the NAD M66... as it's in a similar price bracket to the hi-fi Rose. I hope you are able to make this and if so I am looking forward to hearing your findings
Thank you for your very kind words and feedback. Indeed I try to share everything with you guys as I also like such YT tests and I even picked the Schoeps microphones thanks to channels doing microphones comparisons like I do here with audiophile gear. Noted about Nad, I'll try to do a next batch of streamers some day but it all depends on the availability of the units. Some distributors and manufacturers are super excited by the option of free review and some seem not to be interested at all. Also comparison reviews arent easy for some of them since some products are 90% sound quality and 10% marketing and others can be totally the other way around. And you guys will instantly hear it ;)
This was the best video of all the youtube reviews on rs130. You nudged me to order it and I am waiting for it to be delivered. I'll be running it through a Linn DSM with organic dual mono DACs and into three systems.. Burmester BA32, T+A PA3100HV and Luxman C10x/M10x combo.. can't wait.. thanks again for an excellent video. You got me where you mentioned the holography with the extended sssss sound..😀
Thank you for your amazing feedback. I hope you will be very happy with this streamer. It is a truly beautifully looking and sounding device. So I wish you endless hours of fun with your music :) And let me know how it sounds in your system once you get it :)
@@VirtualHiFi there is a long wait time for the silver finish. But I am willing to wait. Will keep you posted when I get it.. thanks again!!
@@VirtualHiFi Got the RS130 yesterday.. it looks stunning and you were right in every regard on the top notch performance of the streamer.. I just love how it extends the sound stage paired with the Linn DSM mono organic DAC.. thanks again for this youtube video.
@@ramanmanan203was any braking in necessary? Did the sound change with the hours played?
@@zaldam No, did not need any break in. Right out of the box, sounds great and remains the same. Also, I love the rosetube.. cuts out commercials and able to watch great TH-cam videos in high resolution 4k and the relatively good audio that goes with it.
Hi, what is the Qts value for your F10 Select? I have open baffle setup the higher the qts vale it is better for open baffle applications. I am diving into open baffle speaker building, and I do realise any open baffle sub cannot match the dedicated sub, so I have incorporated two SVS subs in my system. I went for SVS subs than REL because SVS can be adjusted on the fly through the dedicated app, to your harts content. Your speakers are excellent incorporating the best of open baffle and closed cabinets for lower frequencies. Thanks.
Great comparison. Thank you. I use the Auralic G2.1 in my system and love it. On the video I found I like it best on the Beautiful life track in both the presentation of vocals and piano. Less clear of a preference in some of the other tracks. Also, since I am an apple user, the app works pretty well for me. Another interesting quirk is that the SQ is clearly best through the app with WiFi and roon disabled. Background is blacker and there is an overall calmer feeling. Unfortunately that’s not practical for every day listening. But That may not be the same in the 2.2 version.
If you have any interest in the Hoer-wege PSU for your 2.1, I can highly recommend it! It elevates the performance into an entirely different category imo :) unreal soundstage and natural tonality improvement
My preference:
1. Auralic
2. Eversolo
3. HiFi Rose
The Eversole had the widest soundstage but somehow the sounds weren't that solid/tight compared to Auralic. In this respect, Auralic was completely satisfying. Auralic's soundstage was a tad less wide as Eversolo (barely noticeable if one didn't pay attention) but I find myself sometimes tempted to characterise Eversolo's soundstage as "scattered" rather than wide. Auralic also controlled the top end quite well while Eversolo sometimes seemed to have trouble tempering the sibilance. Somehow, I heard some very nice sounds in the lower midrange come through that I didn't discern from the other two. HiFi Rose was lodged in between the other two in character and consequently not outstanding in any way. (And I totally agree with you that its sounds are more forward: I could see the whole stage closer to me.) I can't help saying this: Auralic was noticeably the most satisfying.
(Disclaimer: I have substantial hearing loss in the midtones on both ears and hence am informed by a bass-centric hearing preference. This does not simply mean that I like music to have a preponderance of bass. But it does mean that what little of midtones that I hear may be impacted by my bass centricity. I've always believed that there is "covariance" across the highs, midtones and bass and so one's enjoyment of each of them isn't solely determined by the sounds within just that one range but rather that each is also impacted by its interaction with the other two ranges.)
Enjoyed your balanced conclusion and loved your description saying one is like a Lambo whilst the other is like a Bentley. I sometimes listen to some systems and one might sound more detailed and exciting, like driving a 1.6 litre sporty hot hatch on the motorway where as another system might initially seem more boring but there's a sense of class, luxury and ease like driving a 3 litre Mercedes or Audi saloon car on the motorway. It's not always one is better but which presentation you prefer at that time depending on your mood.
Very useful to give a direction to upgrade the DMP A6 ME with LPS, many thanks
Glad to help. The LPS is a great upgrade if you already have the A6 and feel like changing something already ;)
wow! very well presented sounds beautiful thank you
Thank you kindly!
Hi, great comparison! I'm on similar trip 🙂. Lookin for ultimate streaming transport for my system. I wonder if you have an opinion about Innuos pulse, zenith or any other.
Thank you for your time and effort. It very usefull comparsion for me. I'm familiar with HiFi Rose RS130 and Auralic streamers and I totally agree what is said in the review. If we are talking about high end streamers it would be nice to audition one of the Grimm Audio's streamers, MU1 or MU2.
Thank you for sharing your feedback and I'll definitely have a look at those Grimm streamers. I can see they have a distributor here so I'll try to borrow them for a review ;)
That would be great
Best streamer is still DCS NB for those who like proper music. It's the best and in every amazing system. Trust me, i've been through sooo many products.
I use it alone. TBH you should keep it, you won't find better source only product. Dcs are the best handling datas. I've compared to a lot of products yes (grimm, lumin, audiomat, aurender, melco, node etc etc), but my ears are my ears. @@user-sw6ii6tt6h A DCS clock is the next thing I'd like to hear combined with NB to see if it does something.
Do you use DCS NB alone or use it with a roon core? I'm using it for many years and want to upgrade it to something else. But it seem your experience could help me to save money:) Did you compare it with some new and expensive players? Thank you.@@tamieu
Great presentation here, my friend! It's extremely well done, and i can definitely hear differences in each streamer. Not that i would pay $6k for a streamer, but the Auralic truly sounds amazing. Im using a relatively inexpensive Brennan B2 with a Bifrost 2 and find that, for my needs, it is sufficient and sounds excellent in my system. Thanks for doing the hard work for the rest of us!!!
Thank you for your amazing comment. Yes Auralic is amazing, but I sold it already and am experimenting with HQ player now with great results ;)
thanks for video ! greate comparison
Glad you liked it! 😊
Excellent review!. We need more reviews/comparisons like this one. I have the DMP A8 and i also feel its too forward/bright sounding. Debating between the Auralic G2.2 and Rose 130. I love the Eversolo app and Hifi Rose app appears decent but I also like the sound of the Auralic but I am worried about using their app on IOS.
I am on DMP A8 as streamer and similar situation. Thinking of taking a g2.1
I still have the original auralic aries. I could not justify the additional cost in terms of improvement when I auditioned the G1 and G2. The Rose 130 is exactly what you said bigger, more 3d. You can here the realism in the vocals in your video over the other 2 streamers. I went ahead and purchased the Rose. I'm very happy with it, and TH-cam is a great addition. The app is so annoying at times. It works but is not very intuitive in favour of the user. I am now looking at roon to eliminate this problem, but the sound is why I kept the Rose, although I won't forgive the app. Hopefully, HiFi Rose will improve this section with updates.
The Rose can is not as laid back as nicely as the auralic but yes as you say that reverb is so nice.
Thanks for sharing your long time experience. Yes apps suck and that is why long time ago after setting up a streamer using raspberry pi and volumio i have up and went back to the laptop. tidal did not work correctly, and it was more time figuring things out than list being to the music. So I used MacBook for a long time. Having heard ayon streamer, Cambridge audio and some more that I don't really remember now, being totally outclassed by the MacBook with audirvana, nowadays with everolonand Wimm going towards streamers is more valid than ever ;)
Thanks for sharing your comment once again 😁
Thank you very much for this comparison, the Rose130's vocal resonate with me a lot. Could I ask if you can give your feedback on Lumin U2, appreciate it, if you could
Sorry I have not heard the Lumin u2. the rose is very open and with beautiful holography. it will be a great match for all systems that can benefit from some additional sparkle, but for focals bowers etc I'd choose other options ;)
Seeing that R2R DACs are known for their "analogue-iness" and holographic presentation, which of these streamers would you prefer with let's say Holo Audio May? I'm currently rocking Eversolo A6 ME with upgraded PSU but I'm intrigued by Hifi Rose RS130 now as it also seems to be offering what I'd need from streamer (local library playback from either M.2 drive or USB, wifi connectivity with an app to control the unit and USB output). It's not that I don't like the A6 in my system and I actually don't really need more holography nor soundstage (which is something you highlighted as main improvement on RS130 when compared to A6), May is already great at that, but perhaps I could fancy a tad more punch and control in lower frequencies. Plus I'm not sure whether the A6 does my system enough justice - while I understand price is not everything, it's a fraction of a cost of my other main components (aforementioned Holo Audio May KTE, then for amps I have Holo Audio Bliss KTE and Feliks Audio Euforia Evo and quite a wide variety of top of the line headphones). Anyway, great hearing your thoughts on differences between the units.
I don't know how much better the master edition with the PS upgrade sounds over the standard addition also with a PS upgrade but for my money the Eversolo sounds very good. I cant personally justify spending many thousands on any component but can appreciate that others have that option. Thanks for the excellent review..
Thank you very much for your feedback. Yes I totally agree. Going for the Eversolo and later on a PSU upgrade if you ever feel the need to change if the most cost effective option to go for ;)
I bought the Eversolo Master version about 2 weeks ago, its a fantastic piece of kit and for 1,200 British pounds its all I need the connectivity is great the functions are endless it plays every audio file under the sun I have some ISO files and to my amazement it played them back, the High Rez files just sound incredible and I'm using a tablet to control the lot, its also has the HDMI out feature so that's now part of my surround set up with a Universal player plugged in, I also bought a external 2 Terrabite storage card plenty of room for all my files, I don't need anything else it ticks all the boxes and sounds top notch.
Thank you for sharing your comment and experience. I'm very glad that you enjoy the ever solo me it's a great device and I wish you plenty of great time enjoying your music ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks.
Liked your video and subscribed to your channel. I have the Aurender N20 and ACS10, I had the N10 before buying the N20. Aurender has excellent software. I don't use Roon in spite of having a lifetime subscription. The Aurender software is sonically superior. Aurender is a super company regards to customer support and their streamers are built like tanks, very natural almost Analog!
How does HDMI out for TH-cam videos sound wise compared to what an Apple TV Device does??
Bardzo dobre porównanie, masz wyczucie w tym co robisz,gratuluję 😁
Rose ma genialną budowę i wygląd ,niebieskie wskaźniki ala McIntosh powalają :)
Rose ma więcej oddechu jest świetny, EverSolo też bardzo dobry ,szczególnie stosunek ceny do jakości.
Dla siebie wziąłbym EverSolo tylko powstrzymuje mnie brak Hdmi arc,często używam tv Sony a wejście po optyku jest chyba trochę gorsze od Arc .
Dzieki wielkie za komentarz. dokladnie tak dzwiekowo każdy ze stremerów ma swoje uzasadnienie, ale Rose jest najbardziej zbajerowany ;) Eversolo zmiata wszystkich proporcją dopasienia do ceny :) Więc w zasadzie każde z tych urządzeń może sprawić ogrom fanu ;)
@@VirtualHiFi
A czy jesteś w stanie mi odpowiedzieć czy dźwięk z hdmi arc jest lepszy jakościowo od optyka ,jeżeli byłoby porównywalne to być może wezmę eversolo dmp-a6 a jak arc lepszy to będę szukał dalej🙂
Curious for the new dac 😉 Audial? 😅 These are nice streamers but way to expensive for me, I´m also an Android user and prefer a good and simple app. I wonder how much difference there will be with for example an Volumio Rivo with good power supply..
Noted! We will see if I can get one ;)
For now let's say that I have 2 DACs - Holo Audio May and Meitner MA3 and I fell in love with one of them ;)
Hello, Thank you very much for this comparison, I always wondered how the HiFi Rose and Auralic would have sounded in my system. Honestly I am very happy that I didn’t spend the extra money to purchase either the HiFi Rose or Auralic. As far as I am concerned there was no difference, I would rather spend the money in upgrading the speakers or the DAC which makes a big difference than streamers. Please compare the class d amps including the Eversolo class d amp as well. Thank you for your efforts. I have checked your speakers but I prefer bigger speaker drivers, at the moment I am running Tang Bang W8 1808, with 4 15” Eminence speaker drivers per channel. Looking for another driver which will be better than the tang ban, any suggestions? I have tried Voxative AC 1.6, and in my opinion the tang bang is better. I have also tried the horn (Beyma compression driver), it certainly an improvement over the Voxativ but was harsh, so I switched to tang band.
Thnak you for your comment.
Yes Eversolo is the best bargain here. Even though the change is not night and day, listening with the Auralic adds a lot to depth and magic of the system. So its just a cherry on top. Costly cherry ;)
Yes spending the money on other devices might be better, but I'd definitely prefer to get the auralic than on the amps at the moment. I had the Fosi embarassed so many amps not that it's not even funny.
I'll try to do such Class D wars and will try to bring some silly nearly to hear too lift High End amps for comparison ;)
The Tang back that you have is a very colorful drviver and Voxativ is definitely more Lowther like in the Character with bigger presence in the upper midrange. In Cube we have different approach and we like to balance the speakers very nicely. You can here the entry level already retired Fc8 driver in a MLTL cabinet here th-cam.com/video/HjIUk5voWdo/w-d-xo.html
10" drivers are even richer sounding in balance and you can cut them in the OB even lower than any 8" drivers which gives great presence in the lower midrange.
All Cube drivers has a QT of around 0.45-0.5 which is a sweet spot for good Fullrange driver balance.
Brother, I love the Quilio IQ speakers! I am working on getting a set to me from across the pond!!!
Thank you for the very positive feedback. There are many of them already in the USA and Canada and all owners are very happy. Let me know in the comments what is your room size and electronics. They do love the good control from AB and D class amps ;)
In your system with that DAC I like the 2.2 the best. I also prefer the A6 over the Rose.
I will be sticking with my A6 but will be upgrading the power supply to the PD Creative from Poland. Did you ever have a chance to hear this power supply?
Thank you for sharing your comment. Unfortunately I did not hear the PD Creative power supply.
Just discovered your channel and loved this review and the review of the ZA3. It's no nonsense and to the point :) Thank you! Can you please tell me what you are using for the preamplifier?
Welcome aboard! Thank you very much for your comment and feedback. I am not using a preamp now and change the volume (occasionally) on both Fosi amps. I don't like regulating volume at n
Roon/streamer/dać level since more often than not it's damaging the sound way more than a classical potentiometer.
Wow! Would have never thought of doing that. So basically the line level signal comes from the Weiss DAC straight to the FOSIs?
Yes. Exactly ;)
Super ciesze sie ze masz dobre zdanie na temat Auralic Aries G 2.2
Zastanawiam sie nad zakupem Auralic Aries G 3 Ciekawy jestem czy moglbys zrobic osobny program na jego temat Czy jest tak duza roznica miedzy nimi
Dzieki :)
Chetnie sprawdzę o ile będe miał okazję :) Będe polować jeszcze na Grimm ale to wszystko zależy od lokalnej dostępności :)
Question for you; please explain why the data stream sounds different. Are you using any EQ functionality? Is the output volume calibrated between the streamers?
I always check the volume with SPL meter and pink noise. They play at the same volume. There is an audible difference between streamers. Is it due to one and zeros being changed somewhere in the middle ? Not sure. But the difference is there for sure ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks. If the one and zeros are being altered then there is something wrong because there is no such thing. There either is or it isnt a data stream.
I know it's strange but there is a definite difference. Maybe audiophiles are the ones that can find a hole in the Matrix ;)
What's the better option a standard streamer with a good external dac or one higher valued streamer with built in dac?
I will check the Denafrips Ares 12 with wimm streamer vs the ever solo to check which is best. but it will take a couple of weeks.
Hifi rose has a optical rj45 connection is that used? So the amplification maybe should be a higher amp i think
I used USB and room for all streamers to make the conditions as equal as possible. When it comes to the amps don't judge the checkbook by its cover ;) I had this amps sounding with Qualio IQ better than expensive Accuphases, Nagra classic and many other amps that Qualio customers have often times coating tens of thousands of dollars, those amps are revolutionary and when they match the speakers it's insane ;)
Maybe I must listen to that Fossie amps :-)@@VirtualHiFi
Separately, may I ask the output connection you used on the Rose130 to the DAC, thank you
I am currently thinking of buying Lumin U2 or Rose130
all were tested with USB cables
@@VirtualHiFi Thank you very much
I have recently bought a old Naim nDAC with coaxial and hence looking at Lumin U2 becoz of the connection
Made the mistake of buying the "Tail", now it might be wagging the "Body" 🫣
I have a Lumin U2 mini streamer and never had any problems. I use android. It is super reliable with Tidal and roon with no hiccups.
Thanks for sharing ;) Yes with Android it all depends on the app / phone / system version compatibility. So there can be everything ok with 90% of the cases and 10% can suck ;)
The issues appear for real when multiple streamers are connected at the same time. When I had Eversolo, Rose App and Tidal Connect for the Auralic, the Auralic didn't want to connect at all. I had to turn off all devices and apps for it to start working again :)
Super dzwiek ,gratulacje . 👍
dziękuję bardzo ;)
So would you recommend the RS 130 or the Aries G2.2 ?
which application is the most intuitive and with the least bugs? THANKS 😊
I did not encounter bugs with the Auralic yet. The RS130 I had trouble to connect to the Meitner DAC over USB so that is one, and one of the comments also stated that there are some bugs in RS130.
However soundvise Auralic for the body richeness and low midrange pump, and Rose for the space, holography and upper midrange pump. Both have benefits, but Auralic will be more easy to match in the system.
I am now using Roon to control the Streamer and its not only easy now bbut also the sound. quality is for the better ;)
@@VirtualHiFi ok so I think you prefer the rose over the Auralic right ?
And do you have any informations about Aurender ? Is it better than Auralic ? Like N200
@@VirtualHiFido you think the RS130 has similar leading edges qualities or is the Auralic better in this regard?
Great video, great recording skills!, It is possible to hear differences between all three. But why are there there differences again ? Embedded DSP effects is the answer as all these products have signal processing baked in. Harmonic excitation in the 500 Hz to 1.5k Hz range accentuates voices and instruments i.e. 3D like. Spatial effects are achieved by delaying and/or repeating parts of the signal along with stereo widening effects. Analyze the raw and processed signals to see the differences. High end audio is like smart phone cameras, processed to perfection.
Thanks for your comment. It may be so since everything matters, the power supply, application, topology, cables, connectors etc. the most important thing is that there is a difference and the only question left is is it reasonable for each of us to spend our limited resources on this one particular component. ;)
In digital domain I agree that that audio circuit design can make a difference, but a relatively minor one. The biggest effects are from the flavor of DSP algorithms used by various manufacturers. If anyone doubts this then I encourage them to install a programmable DSP in the signal path and experiment. With a few careful tweaks you can replicate high end sound even on modest equipment. For example, you can make FS speakers sound like open baffles, increase or reduce the size of the sound stage, have voices to pop out of the mix, etc. with a few DSP settings tweaks. People should be aware of what is really going on. @@VirtualHiFi
@@williamobrien6936agree 100%. These "high end" manufacturers will have you believe that it's the quality of the parts that create the sound but anyone who has a good understanding of digital electronics knows this is not true. They will tell you that jitter is a problem so you need super expensive stable oscillators when in reality a sufficiently stable clock for SPDIF will cost very little. If it's "bit perfect" it will sound 100% the same. If you're hearing differences, this is down to baked-in DSP. EQ, phase shift etc. you'll only be able to see this by doing packet analysis on the digital output.
hi what brand speakers are you using are they open baffle thanks
Hello those are Qualio IQ speakers - www.qualioaudio.com
I am a coowner and designer in Qualio just to let you know :)
Auralic hits my heart for first 2 tracks. Airy, transparency as hell, super details could easy hear from most 3. Auralic > Hi-Fi rose > DMP A6. But from the 3rd track A6 Master is winning back as good as others 2. Damn, sorry for whom could not hear the differences
Can the Eversolo connect via I2S DAC?
Very interesting! I have the Eversolo a6 me with upgraded power supply... listening here, even from iPhone, there's differences. Hifirose has more punch on low end but the auralic... that has it - on the first piece, the piano and space and sound is as I hear it, most relaxed. Eversolo is good, just less relaxed, less punchy...
Who can explain a streamer to a have had this level of differences being audible? Dacs, amps, even ce players or record players... but streamers?
It just means they're not "bit perfect" or the manufacturer has deliberately tweaked the phasing between left and right channels. A bit perfect SPDIF signal with zero phase shift and good clock stability will always sound 100% the same regardless of the price of the streamer.
It really depends. If you are not a serious streamer which I am not, the Eversolo is probably more than good enough for me. However, if I am thinking ahead for my next upgrade in terms of the system as a whole, say a Gryphon Diablo 300, Marten Oscar Trio, (not sure what DAC yet), then I think HiFi Rose will probably be the way to go. Actually, there is one more brand that you didn't test and that is Aurender. Aurender came out way before HiFi Rose and its price point is ridiculously expensive, may be they thought they could cream the market at that point. Take the W20SE for example, this isn't even the top of the range N30SA 2-box model and it is already asking for US$23K!! I don't know whether there is an Aurender dealer near you, but it certainly would be interesting to audition/review it to see what it is all about. In my mind, correct me if I am wrong since you have an IT background, a music streamer is essentially just a computer of some sort that has been optimized to reduce noise and interference for high fidelity music, I really don't see how it could be worth US$23K, but I could be wrong.😅 I also wonder since HiFi Rose came out, could Aurender even be struggling? I can see a lot more people going for HiFi Rose just for their huge screens alone over Aurender.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I am going for the Auralic, since it sound better in my system, but I'm all in for the functionality and looks of the HiFi Rose. It's the best streamer for high-end lifestyle market for sure. If I were not for 100% sound journey I'd be more than happy with the Rose. Auralic IMO will be more universal one. So yes it's all about the balance. I never judge the sound by the price. I heard amazing things costing pennines and bullshit sound for milions. It's just expensive things have the advantage since they can be built with better quality components. But in the end if the designer is clueless or (just an engineer without passion for listening critically to their creations ), 1000$ device and be better than 10000$ one :)
@@VirtualHiFiyou need to check out an Aurender streamer before going with Auralic. Very dark inky background . Every audio show I go to most high end rooms are using Aurender. Jay iyagi on you tube uses Aurender as his reference. He has worked in high end audio store as well as reviewed every product under the sun
Thanks for the upload❤
How does the rs130 compare to eversolo dmp8?
I did not have a chance to compare them directly against each other, I believe sound wise if I were able to get the rose is go for it since it's special at what it does. The A8 was on but to me sounded a little bit to bland and just a bit too digital. I bought the A6 me since I liked it better.
@@VirtualHiFi ok, thanks. I am going for the eversolo a8. The a6 master sounded a bit digital indeed. But still very nice for the price.
@@VirtualHiFi happy cycling - boards of canada, pretty old.
@@VirtualHiFi autechre - foil.
Half way the ticking tech is hypnotizing.
Wow, this is THE comparison I was looking for - thanks. Then again I‘m lost - was craving for Rose130 to replace an Auralic Aries G1. Then again system is fairly „in your face“: Horns FP15 w/BE tweeter, just so slightly toned down by an Ayon tube amp - yet brutally loud, partially due to Holo Spring DAC XLR out voltage of 5,8Vrms and now you info the Rose130 adds to that (drive, dynamic and in your face) ? - HELP !
Glad it was helpful!
If the Aries G1 is close in character to the G2.2 it's not going to be an upgrade, just a difference.
It is very open dynamic and punchy with beautiful soundstage and great looks. So it can be way too much for you and Your Horns. If you would like to get more umpf and fuller yet very dynamic sound, I would look for difference speakers (floorstanding if you can accomodate them), or just keep the money and enjoy as is. With the Rose 99% that it will be over the top - unless you can get another serving of detail, and upper midrange goodness ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Thanks, very insightful - I appreciate it and will give your LS designs a listening ! Already working on maybe an even bigger version ?
Thank you, we will see that will the future bring , but now yes a bigger more advanced mode is on my radar 😊
Are your speakers on demo anywhere in the uk ?
At the moment we have no dealers in UK. We have quite a few happy customers though, so please let me know where do you live. Maybe there is someone close by. There is 30 day return period for the speakers. However over 100 pairs sold last year and no one ever returned them ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Listening through my little desktop Audioengine A2s, your music sounded amazing! Would love to hear your floor standers in person!
I was unable to spot any major difference via TH-cam (only a minuscule one in the Auralic)
Thank you for sharing and subbscribing ;)
I couldn't spot the difference either. I have hifiman 1000v2 powered by Topping A70Pro...maybe because there is no such 4k sound on YT and max you can stream is 256kb compressed, so recording higher than 256kbps is pointles. If that is true, it is extreamly hard to hear the difference, if this is even possible.
I agree I am using B&W 802 D4 @@ravx799
Great you found Roon, costly, but the best music management/playback software at the time.
My streaming/DAC solution is Linn Selekt DSM with their Organik DAC.
Yes it definitely adds another level of dimension and richness. It must be a great system with the Linn. congrats 🎉
I have been using a Chord Dave M scaler for quite some time, with quality amps and speakers. The streamer is a relatively cheap Project Stream Box Ultra that was 600 pounds a few years ago and i think it still costs the same. The sound, in my opinion, is exceptional. These streamers cost a lot more. I have not heard them, but I doubt they can make the sound better. They only carry digital ones and twos etc etc. it's the dac that is important, not the streaming device. If you look at pictures of the insides of the Auralic, it's almost empty. Some copper shielding won't do anything. Even a laptop will give exceptional sound.
Im just dipping my toes into digital, being a vinyl guy. This was really exactly what i needed as i have a dac i really like (Angela Gilbert Yeung) but im using a bluesound node for streaming. Even on my phone i clearly heard a richer sound with the auralic. So yay me, tge most expensive....😢
Sorry you have expensive taste 😜
Wow, you have a developed and handcrafted DAC from Yeung?! This guy is an absolute genius 🤗
I know you have said, you are only with a toe in digital, but would you like to describe the sound signature of your DAC and perhaps compare it to others you probably listened to on your search to your Yeung-DAC at the end?
@@ramlord6669 yeah, he is a genius. So I've really only had built in dacs, but some good ones. I had the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a digital dac and streaming amplifier. The mark levinson 585.5 and the Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2.0. so some very good stuff but I was never able to compare the sonic signature of the dac separate from the amps.
My vinyl setup is kuzma + my sonic labs + allnic phono stage.
I recently bought the agy d520 with a capacitor pack. Cost is about $2k USD.
First, no, it's not as good as my $20k ish vinyl setup.
But, it does do exactly what I need from digital, which is have zero of the digital glare that I'm very sensitive to. The soundstage is absolutely huge with pinpoint imaging. It's highly musical with wonderful flow, vibrancy and vitality. Tonally I can't fault it at all.
I think the only thing missing vs a 10x the price vinyl setup is some of the warmth and richness. I'm a class A tubes only type guy, so take that into consideration.
I've already set my sights on eventually getting her top of the line d522 which is tube based. It's about $7500 USD...and I would suspect my entry level already competes with other $7500 dacs so....
The Bluesound node has a nice app, but the sound is nowhere near as good as the Auralic Aries G1 I'm using. Even my old Motorola G7 phone, with the USBAudioPlayerPro app, sounds better than the Bluesound.
@@ramlord6669 hmm I think my reply didn't go through?
I have owned the Dartzeel lhc 208 which is designed as a network streamer/dac integrated, the dac in mark Levinson 585.5 and Vinnie Rossi lio with dac 2. All were integrated into amps so can't pick out the sound of the dac.
The agy dac (d520 with cap pack - $3k cdn) is musical, relaxed, vibrant, and open. The soundstage is huge, wide, deep and has wonderful imaging and holography. Compared to my 10x more expensive vinyl setup it has less warmth and richness. But other than that...it's close.
I'm hoping to move up to the d522 tube based dac eventually
In my opinion you have to check the Ferrum WANDLA with HYPSOS. I was blown away from this DAC 🔥
I'll definitely will, I know their products from the look, but I'll be more than happy to get to hear that DAC :)
I don't know if it's my age but I would be happy with the Eversolo streamer. I found that the dac+streamer has the least impact on the system sound.
I have the Rose. Love it. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. My best Dan…..
Nice if you can compare integrated of Atoll with Galion and Hegel.
Will try for sure. Thanks for the vote ;)
First, thanks for producing content like this. I spent way too much time listening to this, considering that it is a TH-cam video. I would suggest a greater range of genres to present as audition because they are all too similar being acoustic jazz/pop. Great music but way too limited. The over arching theme to me was that there really isn’t much in it between these three. I did hear some differences but nothing in quality really. Any sonic characteristic differences may likely be indiscernible with more complex music. I thought the Denafrips vs A6 video showed greater difference between the two even with the same basic music. I listened via my high end headphone setup twice then went ahead and hooked up my computer to my main 2 channel system for a final comparison.
Cutting to the chase, over headphones I chose the Rose 130 as tops on 2 songs (Chlara/Yamamoto) and 2nd on the other 2. I chose the A6 as top on two (James/Chamberlain), but 2nd (Yamamoto) and 3rd on the other (Chlara). The Auralic was 2nd on the Chlara and 3rd on the other 3. On my speakers, the A6 maintained the same spots, but the Rose dropped its 2nd to 3rd thus the Auralic had two 2’s and two 3’s. Bottom line, if price was equal I’d probably choose the Rose 130 over the A6 and the A6 over the G2.2. Given the GUI interface/apps and that the A6 is soooo much less expensive, I don’t hear enough to make me chose the others over the A6. That’s my impressions of the three. Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing. Yes I'm getting back to my old tracks now with more different music. Hope you'll enjoy that ;)
Thank you for sharing your opinion. I also like the A6 ME very much, but just got the Auralic, to add some meat to the sound ;)
Yes, it is a professional comparison, as you used to us every time. But I have an objection vis-à-vis money, very few audiophiles don't have the money for a separate DAC, that's why I would recommend a comparison between streamers with their internal DAC. Eversolo remains my choice for now, there are very small differences between the streamers, Rose is more open. Thank you.
Thank you for your comment. That is a very interesting point. I Tend to lean towards seperate streamer and DAC, since many times the streamer is a better than entire unit. (The Dac in the Eversolo is not as good as the Streamer alone, and if I were to just spend 1500 Euro on entire streamer DAC, I'd probably buy something like Denafrips Aries 12th and a Wimm or use the laptop ;)
I'm only listening through the Macbook speakers but it keeps following the same pattern, the eversolo sounds very good, smooth but a little soft, then the Hifi rose sounds a little better, more livlier and real but then another improvement when you switch to the Auralic, there's more detail, like the volume and treble is turned up. Even individual instruments and vocals have more depth and interest to them.
Thank you for sharing your opinion ;) 😊
Wow if Android is so much better, you had so many issues ... 😜
Based on your sound test... all did sound good and I agree w your ranking.
The Auralic sounded best but it was really a close call.
I think some of the differences beyond sound are the types of inputs and use cases.
Nice presentation.
Too bad you voided your warranty on the Eversolo w the upgraded power supply. (I'd do the same.)
very very honest review
Thank you very much 😊
Just tried out the Rose 150B against my miniMac & RME DAC. I sent the Rose back...
Much better as you go up in price. However the products are for different markets and prices. Ever solo is for USD 2500-5000 set ups. Rose is for those spending all their money on hifi. Aurelic provides emotional improvements that only are justifiable if you do power treatment and acoustically improve the room and place speakers accordingly to room modes. Aurelic suits USD 35000-60000 range set ups. So different market. If you like to better the Aurelic for less price than the Eversolo, get a proper disc transport, get a used good AES/EBU cable and use a decent 10-15 year old high end dac (multiple transformers, galvanic isolation and good components (even if chip is old it will sound more high end and less hifi). It is hard to get good sound from streaming but easy from discs. But 99 percent should buy an eversolo and improve the rest of the system like getting a proper power cable that improves the Eversolo to surpass higher level streamer dacs.
Very interesting perspective. I agree that auralic and rose is for a different system. So definitely there are different ways to approach it. But yes for 99% of people ever solo will be an overkill and app ease and user experience is more important than the 20% sound quality upgrade ;)
Thanks for the comparison, its been pleasure to watch and listen, thank you.
I have been looking into this topic myself for some time now, my experience so far is that dmp demolishes almost everything in its class and well above.
Price doesn't reflect performance and this is more true in digital domain,
in the above I didn't like the auralic, mid and higher mid far to forward and almost in your face, I don't like this kind of presentation...
dpm is in top league here with rose, I would be happy with either, throwing into the mix price, I think there is only one winner, punching well above its weight category.
thank you
Welcome! ;)
People who like vinyl will likely prefer the Eversolo A6 with LHY PS. Eversolo A8 with PS upgrade, however, probably will have more similar sound signature to Hifi Rose and Auralic
I'll for sure agree. It's the most analogue sounding streamer out of Eversolo line. The A8 does not need the PSU upgrade since it already has one. It's the the A6 and A6 ME that can take the upgrade.
Thank you for your comment and Subscription :)
I'll go for the HiFi Rose for it's bravery and fullness; Although the Auralic is a great device as well and sounds sweet. My pick HiFi Rose, nice looking device as well but they have to match Eversolo in the Apps
Yes the Rose is the best looking Streamer I saw and I love the concept, the functionalities and the sound. It will shine in all systems that need more openness and a bit of sparkle ;)
So the other 2 are better than the Eversolo. But are they over $3,000 better?
The answer will depend on the system and budget. For more expensive systems eversolo will be a limiting factor. For a midrange system doing for eversolo is great way IMO ;)
They are all good; people should be happy with any Especially With the Eversolo & Aurarlic.
I totally agree ;)
They sound very similar but at times the HiFi Rose seems to have a darker background and a bit more decay.
thanks for sharing your opinion ;)
Excelent once again! 1- Hifirose 2- Auraluc 2 - Eversolo Am6 yeh 2 2! Sory.
Thanks for voting 😄
Would have been interesting to test a Wiim Mini. If you're just using SPDIF out there really shouldn't be much difference.
I'll share a video of Wiim Pro Plus and Fosi and I believe it's better than Wimm Amp ;)
Aurender and Grimm Mu1 are at the top. Worth checking out.
Thank you I'll try to test them ASAP ;)
@@VirtualHiFiThe Grimm MU1 is €12750, but there is a better MU2 now which is €18000
@@D1N02 The Grimm MU2 includes a DAC, so it's not an improved MU1 but in a different product category.
@@Bill.K it integrated the DAC which is entirely custom designed for the streamer. It is still a streamer.
All streamer are very close and definitely do not justify a price difference of 6x between the Eversolo and Auralic. The sound difference were very subtle but I thought the Auralic had the widest soundstage (Tsuji Yamamoto). The super test would be Aurender vs Grimm vs Metronome!
Thanks for the comment and sharing your feedback. Yes that would be amazing test. Maybe some day I'll be able to arrange the units for such a test ;)
Unfortunately very good high end streamers lack good apps and UIs as well as in some case tidal connect capability or Roon readyness. On contrary much budget streamers like WiiM Pro EverSolo DMP-A6 have really good apps and integrations with hires audio platforms. Yes Hifi Rose is excellent streamer but do you get that 5 times the price value sound wise. I will rather invest on a pricy dac than a pricy streamer
Hi, Yes I totally agree, Yes developing an app is extremely expensive and tiresome. There has to be constant updates as all APIs are changing constantly, so that is why high-end gear cant afford the apps. It's too much work and responsibility. Cheaper hence more popular companies often times belong to big players that have proper background and IT skills. Apparently HiFi Rose is a branch od big Korean Software Company whos boss like good Audio ;)
Yes you are totally right the app part is a different ball game
Very nicely recorded and produced video shows that they all sound the same. If you close your eyes while listening try to guess when you *think* you hear a change, it's impossible to tell the difference.
Agreed....😂
Sorry to hear that guys. Are you using decent headphones and high quality of the recording (at least full Hd? )
There is no difference in tone at all.
Perhaps the soundstage differs but you can hear that only live…
Why is it that you need a certain quality of downstream system to hear differences or improvements? If it’s better, it should make any system sound better. Tonality can always be improved (allegedly).
Can ANYONE in this comments section reliably pick the time when the source changes with their eyes closed?
@@VirtualHiFi, it's a pity, but I also didn't recognize the difference in sound. I'm using cheap and old Sennheiser EH350 with or without Fiio KA1 on my laptop. :( I wondering what headphones are people that hear the difference are using? As I understand, I need to change headphones.
4K?
Well produced video. I have had some streamers and so has a good friend of mine. We have both settled on using the WiiM Pro's with linear power supplies. He has probably around $80,000 in audio gear, and I have went from $30,000 in gear to around that $7000 mark after finding what works. It all boils down to the actual user experience, if it is buggy and will not work when you want it to, or limits your ability to play the services you really want, what good is it? My buddy returned two of these units, and I have returned lesser but still expensive units.
I totally agree, You can go and spend milion dollarss at local dealer and can end up with worse sound than 20'000$ with deep consideration and paricular critical listening. I just got my Wimm Pro Amp (streamer + TPA3255 amp) so I'll test how it sounds very soon ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Cool! I know there are better sounding streamers out there, there is always "better". But, I believe for most of us, with say systems in that $5,000 to say $20,000 range, there is always that point of diminishing returns in regards to SQ.
And that is where usability comes in, and the reason there are so many of us out here that recommend and really enjoy these WiiM streamers.
I am not a fan of the WiiM DAC, it sounds ok, and it is very passable for casual listening, it is not that bad.
Now, put a quality DAC on the WiiM, like my PS Audio unit, or any quality DAC, and I think most folks would be hard pressed to hear a difference between the WiiM and a high dollar streamer.
Again, it all boils down to those diminishing returns, and the user interface, does it work for you?
Witaj sąsiedzie! U mnie Rose 130 doskonale zgrała się z lekko ocieplonym dźwiękiem Holo Audio May KTE. No i połączenie I2S też robi różnicę!
Super, extraze się zgrywa bo właśnie jedzie do mnie taki sam DAC. Kolega przywiózł Springa i no cóż mam powiedzieć ... tego nikt się nie spodzoewał ;)
@@VirtualHiFi to czekam na recenzje!
How did you connect the RS130 to the May Dac I2S? I have the same equipment but have not been able to get the May to work with the RS130 I2S connection.
Hello, I did not have the May , but Sring one, i did not connect it to the rose though since rose was already returned and we listened to the Weiss vs Spring on the Auralic G2.2
@@justincollins6077 A Mode in I2S OUT on Rose and I2S1-A3 on May
HiFi rose sounds the best, most smooth, airy yet detailed..eversolo sounds grainy, brighter good for instruments but with vocals can be bit too forward ..but for the money eversolo is a great product.
Yes Eversolo is a great unit in its price range ;)
All we need is a direct usb dac connection from an amp to our laptop or ipad's
I did that for many years. Dedicated streamers can sound better than my MacBook though 😉
Sigue siendo EverSolo A6 Master Edition el de Mejor Sonido se escuchan mas Instrumentos"Separacion de Frecuencias" de segundo el Rose RS 130 mayor Campo de Bajos. Seria Interesante Comparar el Wiin Pro Streamers de 400$
Will check wimm streamers for sure. Thanks for sharing your feedback 😁
From here it was a close call between auralic and eversolo. Hifirose sounded walled in in comparison. Eversolo more airy than Auralic, which had more body.
Thanks for sharing. I'll probably go for the Auralic now since I like this change very much ;)
@@VirtualHiFiIt's probably a lot better than I can hear via TH-cam.
im sticking with my eversolo to be honest. in my opinion it sounds the best. thanks for the vid.
Sure, the ever solo has the best overall value. The A6 ME has the most pronounced midrange so it has a very nice appeal ;)
Easy test (at 4K - AAC 192 kbps) 👈
1st Auralic Aries G2.2 - 100 points
2nd Eversolo A6 ME upg - 95 points
3rd HiFi Rose RS 130 - 80 points
Maybe with other amplifiers, class A or AB, Eversolo is better but with these FOSI+Sparkos there is an excess of clarity in the high frequencies with your loudspeakers.
I would rule out Hifi Rose RS 130.
😄
I don’t like this kind of test, because a ethernet cable like a FTA metis can change so much the sound, depending the ethernet card construction can be a huge upgrade. Owning a Taiko extreme I can say that roon is colored and not the best software to test
Thank you for sharing.
Yes I agree, the Rose is for more mellow relaxed system that needs a bit more sparkle. Eversolo is the best Bang for the Buck, and Auralic present the most ananog yet full and dynamic sound character :)
Hifi rose has a optical rj45 connection is that used? So the amplification maybe should be a higher amp i think
as a owner of an Auralic Altair G2.1 I can tell it sounds a lot better if using its own lightning ds app for Ios, you could have borrowed an Ipad or Iphone to make a serious review
I used Roon for the test and liked what it does a lot. And all streamers were controlled by the room ;)
I used Roon for the test and liked what it does a lot. And all streamers were controlled by the roon ;)
This wasn't a serious review? Fooled me
We don’t like sharp the Eversolo A8 more R2R sounding,analog sounding and your speakers dictate
Your liking.
Thank you for sharing :)
The Eversolo DMP-A6 (normal edition) sounds perfect already and the dac in it is close enough to perfect and also works well with my CD transport. Why waste money on a more expensive streamer that can't sound any better? Bits are bits. Streamers and dacs are commodity items now. My Wiim Pro Plus in my office sounds just as good as the DMP-A6. I just got the A6 for the eye candy of the screen. The only thing it makes sense to spend more on now are good speakers. I just looked up the price on the Hifi Rose. $5,195? That is insane for a streamer and dac.
I'll test the Wimm very soon as well so that it's going to be a good indicator if they sound at the very similar level and one pay just for the additional features. I would say that all of those streamers have place i proportionally priced systems. If one has lets say 20000$ speakers switching to 25000$ ones can make a smaller change than changing the streamer ;)
There are no bits traveling through a cable. It's modulated current that forms the digital information. This signal may be distorted leading to timing error and jitter. Furthermore every cable acts as an antenna thus may pick up electrical noise such as EMI or RFI. That noise does not change the bits but has an impact on the analog circuits in the DAC, diminishing the perceived audio quality.
Consider it as two glasses full of water; one is pure and clean and the other is polluted. Chemically both are H2O (bits are bits), but think of the difference it makes on your digestive system if you drink the polluted water...
Higher end gear usually takes more care of suppressing noise using galvanic isolation etc. and avoiding jitter.
My buddy just sold his Eversolo, and he sold a Rose and a Node, he is swinging a WiiM Pro+ with a linear power supply. I do not know what he is using as an external DAC, his house looks like a HiFi audio store, a high end hifi audio store, except for his WiiM Pro+. It all boils down to useability, and the WiiM does that in spades. He states he really does not hear any difference in sound either, using an external DAC.
@@goodsound4756Yes, but jitter related distortion can be very easily measured on the analog outputs of a streamer or DAC. Pretty well all modern DACs are operating at extremely low distortion.
I will check the wimm soon and will share my thought with all of you guys ;)
Jak dla mnie nie było żadnej różnicy pomiędzy streamerami. Słuchałem przez głośniczki w tablecie samsunga tab s9.
Na taki sprzęcie różnicy nie usłyszysz😁
Potwierdzam. Podepnij słuchawki pod tablet będzie lepiej ;)
Using a raspberry pie with a relevant HAT has put me in the highest level as far as streaming is concern
Didn't go through adding a screen, a dedicated cell phone serves a a remote one
Long live the music!
Thanks for sharing. Did you compare it to more off the shelf components ? Curious about that ;)
1 eversolo great high-end
2 Auralic warmth
3 HiFi Rose no soul
Wow, clearly, I mean CLEARLY, there is an audible difference between the 3. I prefer the Aries G2.2. on your setup. The clarity, soundstage, the leading edge of the notes more outlined. The Rose was just to boomy and warm, which muddied up the midrange. The Eversolo to me was last, to mechanical. I use the Electrocompaniet ECM 1.
A fun video, thank you. 👌🎼✨
Thanks for sharing your feedback. Indeed this time I agree, the more money spent the better sound is ;)
Your summary is very close to what I heard. I couldn't understand that in the summary of virtualHifi the Hifi Rose was seen so positive. To me it also sounded too warm. That of course could be my personal preference. The auralic almost sounded too bright but I guess it would be my favourite. I also liked the Eversolo over the Rose. I don't want to say that this would be the same if I heard it live but I only wanted to share my impression in the video which especially with the Rose meets yours.
If you are using an external dac, I can't see the point of spending extra money on a "superior" streamer. The streamer just receives 0 and 1s and transfer them to the digital output. Should no t cost a fortune. Only way to convince me a streamer is better sonically would be to feed to output to a computer who would do a bit for bit comparaison of the data received from the compared steamers. I very much doubt there is a difference.
I thought exact the same, but went for a demo with a semi open mind and I noticed quite a big different in so many different areas regards streamers.
1 Auralic 2 Rose 3 Eversolo. Between Aries and Rose there are LITTLE little differences , with Eversolo more evidence. At this point Eversolo 8 sholuld be interessing.
Great video, great streamers, great DAC, great speakers.....please get a better amplifier! 😁
Will look for better one for sure 😁 not sure how long will it take though ;)
@@VirtualHiFi 👍
I bought the RS130. The thing has enough bugs to make your head spin!
Thank you for sharing your unfortunate feedback. I didn't experience bugs when I had the device but if there are some major ones please let us know ;)
@@VirtualHiFi Inability to rip CDs with more than one disc, album art disappearing, taking days to scan libraries, and other more trivial things. For example, what good is the weather feature if you can't enter your zip code and have to choose a city 250 miles away? The UI is not intuitive. If you bring up an album and press to play the 1st track, it won't play the album in order; it will play some other random song next. I've only used it for about a week and I can say this item is overpriced by about $2,500.
hi, Thanks, but bits are bits and if the devices are not flawed at source, absolutely nothing changes, as those in audioscience review can confirm. Results and not trivia. I also tried to make the comparison:
I have a very simple system.
I have two Mcintosh mc 275 that I use as power amps and a T+A dac 200 that I use as pre and DAC.
I have a Bluesound Node 130 and I picked up a Lumin u2 Mini on loan from a shop for testing. was convinced that I was experiencing a difference, soundstage etc etc...
I did cross-tests using the same music and simply switching between one and the other. but.... they sound the same. ... and by the way..Steve Huff is the one who has also has a channel on the paranormal right?.. this explains many things and beliefs online,
snake oil is always present in expensive appliances. once a streamer exceeds 500 /600 euros... it is definitely a good streamer. you have to invent something, a special chassis, a colour screen... age to sell certain things.
Thank you for your time dedicated for sharing your experiences. I can you share with me the speakers that you have ? I can clearly hear the differences even thought YT listening on my headphones. When I listen for piano attack in the tracks, the Autalix has the most body, eversolo is wide but not as heavy and the rose has long decay in the reverb, it's not night and day changes, but clearly there is a difference the question is is it a good deal to each of us and the answer will be different for everybody here ;) not even sure about para normal stuff of Steve. I only know his audio videos ;)
hi, thanks for your Answer @@VirtualHiFi . the question is: if bits are bits, it´s the DAC that does the rest.
If the streamers are not faulty, the DAC gets the same 1s and 0s.
If we talk about data, go to Audioscience review with data in hand.
Otherwise the different sensations on one´s systems, they are like testicles, everyone has his own.
In my opinion you have to see certain paranormal videos, in this case defining Steve as a car salesman.
I have Tannoy Cheviot.
🙂
So if these streamers sound different they're not "bit perfect"?
That depends, in theory yes but the question is if the files do not go through some digital processing with reconstruction filters before going to DAC.
@@VirtualHiFi reconstruction filters are part of the DAC, not the streamer. The streamer should just deliver a "perfect" stream of digital data to the DAC. If there're differences in sound whilst using the same DAC, the only explanation is that the data provided by the streamer is different, DSP being applied basically.
The hi fi rose is best for me , the snare hit is way more spacious which would lead to a better soundstage overall I would think .
Those speakers are the star of the show though . Awesome.
Agree, much more spacious
Yes, the reverbs on hifi rose are next level ;)