Finding Rex in Attack of the Clones
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Captain Rex was present for many major battles in Star Wars including the First Battle of Geonosis, Order 66, and the Battle of Endor. After Dave Filoni prompted Disney and Lucasfilm to confirm that Commander Rex can be seen in Return of the Jedi, we're here to take a look at the other battles Rex trook place in, to see if he can be spotted in any other films from the Star Wars Skywalker Saga.
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Imagine being that old actor for the rebel trooper and finding out your once nameless character is now a widely beloved and well known clone with an epic backstory.
Tbh, that guy is probably dead.
@@kauzi1908 sadly, yes
Probably cgi
@@Foreseen3 what?
@@cjkrueger7482 should be self explanatory
so if Captain Rex was there for the Battle of endor was he there for Anakin's funeral?
strange theory, but the anakins funeral was just Luke and burning Anakin
@@martinmiklas7478 wasn't it at the party though after the battle of endor for the celebration and I feel like Rex would stay for the celebration and the Ghost of Anakin even appears at one point and I know he's not a four sensitive so he probably wouldn't be able to have that connection but still interesting theory if he was there for the Battle of endor and he was one of Anakin's best friend so I would like to think that he'd be there for the funeral if he knew about it maybe
I wanna see a youtuber redo that scene from Return of the Jedi, and Rex watches in the background
Does he know Ani was Vader?
Rex never knew Anakin was Vader, therefor he wouldn't have attended the funeral even IF he knew it was happening due to the fact only Luke was at the funeral
If I'm not mistaken, Captain Rex was selected for Alpa 17's ARC trooper training program after the battle of Geonosis. We see this also happen with Echo, Fives, and Jesse. It's also worth noting that Rex's designation number begins with CT and not CC as we see with other clone command level officers
Ooooh, good catch...
Actually echo and fives where promoted along with Jesse also echo and five’s training happens mid war
Rex wasn't a commander until season 7 so he didn't get a clone commander designation only a clone trooper designation, and although he received arc training he technically wasn't an arc trooper, by the time season 7 happened Disney no longer cared about the intricacies of logistics in starwars so he didn't get a cc number
@@yoface2537 he was a captain though. That's a command officer
Rex was a CT and hes been a captain basically since he is born so to me, if ref appears in the movie, he has to be a captain although i dont believe he appears in it sadly.
I can imagine that Padme would have told Anakin about her encounter with the trooper, and if we assumed said trooper did gather troops and stormed the hangar, Anakin probably would have heard of that as well. So when he was given command of the 501st, he might have pulled some strings to, if the trooper hadn't already been promoted, have him be trained to become his captain. I imagine it would be out of the ordinary for a Jedi to seek out a specific trooper for this role, but I can see it being something Anakin would do.
Idk if he would have been given command of the 501st right off of that but he would have had at least command over a squad in the 501st and given the rank of captain by the time we see him in the clone wars movie on christophsis
@@goofygaming4641 Oh yeah for sure. Either that or he would be sendt to Kamino for additional training, which, since Rex is a CT clone, does in fact check out
I agree with you on Padme telling Anakin about the clone, saying how his first words to her was making sure that she was alright before she began giving him orders to round up troops to help support Anakin, and how he made sure to stay beside her until they arrived. And I can see Anakin asking specifically for that clone who kept his future wife safe and making him his right hand man, giving him a name and asking for him to be promoted to captain. He did partake in Alpha's training to become an ARC, so he was probably promoted before that, but I don't think he would be in command of the 501st straight after, probably after the former unnamed commander died in battle, then he was promoted to lead the legion.
It makes sense to me that way.
And this would totally make sense because one of the first things Rex says is “In my book experience out ranks everything” which could be his way of saying his experience on the battlefield is what led him to the rank he was.
@@RubenAssassinRose I am going agree with you on that Rex would not only loyal to Anakin Skywalker but also Ahsoka tano too
Gramps during the recording of ROTJ: "why am i the only one wearing armor?"
George Lucas: "if i told you, you wouldn't believe me"
Ofc in reality it's because he was the one to capture the scout trooper. But yes! George likes his world building.
@@latewizard301 dude just cmon
@@tomthesnake8739 what? I still like the retcon. But tbf, George did NOT have the vision people say he had. A quick behind the scenes look will show you that...
@@latewizard301 no but Dave made it canon because of the end of star wars rebels. also the guy the rebel he was a commander
@@Talinrogue Dave seems to really like the fans' theories that much that he makes it canon. i know many people didn't like Rebels that much. But i think the part between episode 3 and 4 it's the most interesting part of star wars.
Anyway, cool that they made it canon. IDK how the aging works tho... But, then again aging in star wars is weird lol
Obviously, Captain Rex is the droid pilot in the original Star Tours ride at Disneyland/Disney World
R3X!!!!
@@LoreStar precisely and... Captain Rex is also the Droid DJ in Galaxy’s Edge’s cantina...
DID SOMEBODY SAY DROID?!
ROGER ROGER
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When talking about the rank, you have to remember Rex was removed from the CC program and put into the CT training, later getting into the arc training and then transferring to the CC training because of APLHA wanted him their and to take over the 501st
Where the hell did you get that? Was it from the Clone Wars novels?
@@Mtab2260 yes, it came from novels and other resources I use to write information down.
@@quinnbadeaux8708 Neat, mate.
I feel it is more poetic for us to not find one clone among an army, one face no different then the next, but by the end we see a face that is among many on Endor and we can pick him apart from those he stands beside as an individual.
I think Rex deserves his own series. He’s that effin awesome!
2008clone wars is his own series
@@zachattack1279 True, but I’m saying a fill in the gaps type thingie.
The 501st needs their own series. That way we would get to see the March on the temple and also the 501st stormtroopers aka Vader’s fist and all the battles we didnt see in the clone wars maybe even the 1st battle of geonosis
Yes
I like this idea better. Solo series never manage to address the fact that we've usually already seen as much of a particular character as the creators are capable of showing us, and to have any more would just lead to a Luke Skywalker situation where the only thing they can work with is making the person act out of character so their "growth" can be becoming the characters we're actually familiar with.
Problem: Rex was trained as an arc or a captain, as far as we know. But: his designation "CT-7567" suggests otherwise, maybe, because as we know, first or early generation commanders, captains, arcs and commandos had different designations, not "CT" but rather "cc" or something like that, this theory could actually work out.
I was just looking into this, and yes Rex is a CT unlike Cody being a CC. But also, Commander Colt is a CT not a CC like we would think
Rex was picked out for his skills by the kaminos and given arc training.
As i know he got clone commander training from alpha 17
The reasoning for him being trained as an arc trooper is the fact that Jango Fett personally pulled him out of the rest of the Clones. Realizing that he was hiding his Independence and level to think for himself in a beneficial way for the rest of the army. The ARC trooper line the only difference between then and the rest was the fact that they were the first clones and they were taught by Jango Fett personally the different between ark clones and the rest of clones is that the rest of the clones were taught by Arc true and Jango Fett bounty Hunter hires.
In legends according to Wookiepedia, Rex was a sergeant during the battle of Geonosis before being retrained as an arc trooper.
i think the clone with padme makes sense cause Rex once said to fives and echo they remind them of him, this could mean Rex was a normal clone but really stepped up in the heat of battle one day and ended up reaching captain eventually i think that makes it fit in with the story better than him just always being a captain.
Filoni revealed in an interview with IGN he ultimately chose to not canonize the theory because he felt that laying down an already established character prior to his coming to Star Wars wasn’t correct, adding that Rex could have been present at Endor and not be Sant, even though some fans could choose to believe that Sant and Rex are the same individual while others choose to not do so
Oh but that didnt stop him from retconning other people’s shit back in the day. I call BS
So it is half-canon at least.
@@ulty1472Deppa Bilaba comes to mind.
The Clone Commander that speaks to Mace Windu is meant to be Ponds apparently.
He IS Ponds, lol
Yeah its Ponds
The one with yellow coloring (commander), yes, but we don't know who the one with red coloring (captain) was.
Rex was already a 501st so no he’s not in red
@@jjonahjameson8934 in this time legions hadnt any colors , the only colors were for ranks like you can see
The one that rescues padme is obviously slick trying to steal Anakin’s girl.
Wait but I thought that guy already had a name???
Maybe he was Hardcase..at least that would explain his nickname…
No..
his name was actually Finn. Not the Finn from first order...
@@brianroper9379 do you not have jokes where you come from?
@@brianroper9379 yea that’s what I was taking about
They could just say that since Anakin appreciated that clone saving Padme so much that he demanded he get extra training to become a captain
If you go to Star Wars rebels season 2 episode 3. Go to 07:01 where Rex talks about not wanting to fight the emperor, in that moment there is a phase 1 clone helmet. This helmet was not only phase 1 but has yellow markings. It could be that Rex was a commander not under sky walkers command yet and that’s why he has a commander’s helmet. There were only 2 other clones living with Rex, Wolfe and Gregor. Gregor was a commando and captain so he would not have yellow armour or normal clone armour at all. So I think Rex or Wolfe was indeed in the battle of geonosis and was either who today talked to or who mace windu talked to in the battle of geonosis.
I’m pretty sure that commander clone that was talking to mace was pawns
The Padme theory is too good, honestly. Considering how distressed Anakin was when she fell out of the gunship, he'd be the first to thank the Clone who rescued her. This action earns Rex Anakin's respect, possibly even influencing a decision to work with the 501st when he gets the chance, and appointing Rex personally as the second-in-command in recognition of this action. It's totally worth tweaking a few details in supplementary reference material to fit this in in my view.
Apparently in the comic strip, "501 Plus One", Rex goes down during one of the war's early battles and Anakin goes back to save him. Returning the favour? (It's like poetry, it rhymes)
Fr it would be so cool if that actually was rex
I like the idea
The Padme theory is idiotic. It's only made cause, "rEx bEsT tRoOpEr" mindset
Star Wars has gathered every theory from Darth Jar Jar to Snoke being Porkins, and Rex showing up in a battle we know he took part in is idiotic?
yes
I personally would rather have him off screen in Attack of the Clones so that there is room for a story to be told. I would love to see Dave Faloni give us a different perspective of the battle through Rex.
Yes please I would love this.
deffo, why does he NEED to be someone we can see? I'm not sure if I agree with all this stuff but thats my opinion :)
that clone that falls out of the gunship with padme is CT-85-077. Not captain rex so its all good.
Yes. He probably had some special warfare mission off-screen during the battle of Geonosis, leading the 501st Legion.
As nice as it would be with the 2nd option, I like the idea of that being a random clone and not someone particularly significant
"The grass is greener when it's shorter?" That's hysterical lol
"There's no real evidence except that it would be really cool."
And for half the prequels, that's enough of a reason for it to be canon.
If you watch the show attack of the clones Rex says he was not in the first battle .
@@rangerbrando6818 Which episode was that line in? I don't remember it.
@@rangerbrando6818 It was actually Cody that says that. I just read a whole discussion about it in another comment on here where they clarified this. Rex was indeed in the battle of Geonosis.
Didn't george Lucas down right say that it's him?
@@rarewolf8563 Which episode was that line in?
Knowing Anakin, I could absolutely see him asking Padme how she stayed safe. She'd mention that a clone helped her (which I'm sure they had time to discuss name and CT number on that long walk) and Anakin personally recommending that clone's promotion for valiance and heroism, protecting a galactic senator on a mission.
No, because we know that he received special training for officers before Geonosis, and was already Captain of Torrent company when Anakin was given command of the 501st
@@tk-6967 If we use the logic we saw in the clone wars series, a regular soldier can be promoted into a better rank, like fives and echo who were regular soldiers and end up being ARC Troopers. my point being, it's not impossible for a normal trooper to receive more and following training after he's out of the academy.
@@christophernava2324 Yes, but that wasn't true in Rex's case, he is too old for that to be true.
@@tk-6967 yes, but Anakin doesn’t become a knight and a General right away after Geonosis. There’s time for Rex to have that training before becoming the Captain of the 501st when it’s formed.
@@Mtab2260 umm, you realise that the clone units weren't formed for the jedi? Before they was put in charge and saw promise in rex, he was a company captain
The clone that looks after padamé is Rex
Reason: they never state when Rex gets his leadership training he could have gotten it during ARC training, the training given to clones that show potential
Also, he's a CT not a CC. Meaning he was raised as a trooper, not a commander.
@@bable6314 cc is not commander its commando
@@skejcik360 actually clone commandos were given different letter designations according to the wiki page on designations, CC is for commanders
Fyi: Rex isn't an ARC Trooper, I think, in the show he has a line that is: "That's why he's the ARC Trooper!" Rex using the word "the" and not "a" sort of tells you that he isn't one. He could receive ARC training after that, as it was in The Unknown, which is in season 5 I think, I don't remember I should probably check.
@@skejcik360 thats RC
Rex being the clone who looks after Padme makes the most sense. his clone number is CT-7567, CT being used for rank-and-file clones while CC is a command level designation.
Rex: "You shot us.."
Also Rex: *Starts laughing manically*
I think he was proud of him being ABLE to hit that nice
@@rinnekojin2813 Agreed. He even said, "Next time turn the stun off". Giving him some advice just in case the next time he does that the Stormtroopers after him most likely won't be his allies.
Ha ha, true. I haven’t watched Rebels for a long time
That's a wrecker moment ngl
Ha ha bad batch reference go brrr
I used that audio clip in a motion graphics project (actuallyhave it on my channel) and my whole class was so confused but still laughed...
Rex's helmet marks were given to him from his performance in the battle of geonosis, I would imagine under anakins command, if a clone saved padme that'd be more worthy than Thor for a promotion
its actually not rex its CT-85-077 that falls out with padme.
@@nickyvt2003 who?
@@Dog-bc1lz random clone
No they weren’t, he says in the clone wars series that he didn’t fight on geonosis
@@Sam-cl3qt when? I remember Cody said that he didn't fight in the 1st battle of geo, but rex never said about himself never fighting in it
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I think he was the one with Padmé, and if made canon, I hope Episode 2 gets edited in a way, that makes Rex look like a captain in regards of armor. Maybe also making hints at Republic Commandos, 99 (the hero (RIP) and/or the unit) or Domino Squad.
In moments like this, it can be important not to make the universe feel too small, with every major event and character connected. While it would've been cool to find a clone who could definitely be Rex, I'm completely fine with him never being seen during that film.
Well, I'm sure he's seen, if only just as one nondescript clone in a wide shot.
@@LoreStar good point. While I agree that the universe shouldn't feel too small, with everyone knowing everyone, we already know that Rex was in the battle of Geonosis, so it would make sense if we saw him in AOTC
@@obi-wan-kenobi2393 yeah and he is gen 1 so it makes even more sense
@@chrisquinn3377 Rex is not Gen-1 cause if u have watched the recent episodes of the bad batch they say there is only 2 of them alive bobo fett and omega so he is not a gen 1 clone
@Obi-Wan Kenobi It could still work since there were only about 200,000 units ready at the time and he was a Gen 1.
I like to imagine he’s just one of the many grunts on the ground, nameless and unmarked. It definitely speaks that “experience outranks everything” line to me, that he rose purely by his own merit
Rex wasn’t on the first battle of geonosis
He told that to Cody on an clone wars episode
@@jz7867 That was Cody who told Obi-Wan.
@@backtothefutureman1 hwwwww
@@RandomServitor yeah but if Cody wasn’t there Rex definitely wasn’t either
@@ksam3427 By what logic?
I like to think that some of the clones who were bred to be higher ranks didn't get to finish the training due to a basically all-out siege on Geonosis being the priority mission at that time. So with Rex being pushed into service before his Captain training was complete, they just deployed him in basic armor. That's just my headcanon cause I personally love the idea Rex was the one to assist Padme and Anakin notices it and specifically asks for his to be a captain in the 501st.
That extra from the Battle of Endor is so lucky. He never knew that his role would be that significant in the prequels. I just hope he was still alive to know that fact.
That disguising coincidence with Rex is actually really funny lol
Here's my head cannon: during the battle of geonosis, Rex was a LIUTENANT or a lower ranking officer, but not a captain. Which would explain why he wouldn't have the special blue markings he did later in the war. It's because of his actions saving padme and leading a rescue mission that got him promoted to captain, which then allowed him to paint his armor
It just isn’t as cool not having him have elite ARC training. It would be better if he just decided that even after having his training he would rather earn the rank
@@ecklipz3364 ya but could he not have had training after saying padme?
@@austin62halo well all the special training he had was while the other clones had normal training and that was before geonosis
Except Lieutenant's weren't standard white either; they had blue markings. Sergeants had green markings. So the trooper that rescued Padme was definitely wearing the armour of a regular trooper.
@@plutoreturns9630 Or he could have been a recently a lieutenant and didn't mark his armor before the battle. Or maybe he was a high ranking regular trooper (like a sergeant or a master chief) then gets promotions
The one who looks after Padme is Rex. Padme motivates Rex to gather troops and lead, after showing great success Kamino calls him back to give him training at the end of which he is promoted to captain of the 501st... Being around people like Padme and Anakin even from as early as Geonosis could be part of why hes able to fight order 66 along with his extra training.
Rex ages at double speed. Considering Kenobi's aging, how would Rex survive to the battle of Endor?
My personal opinion as far as Rex in the clone wars: yes it would be cool to see Rex in the close wars movie. But I feel it makes the story telling smaller. It’s ok that we don’t see Rex until the close wars series. And I really really like that he’s been canonized in the original trilogy. I just feel that if we were to canonize the close who helped Padme as Rex, it makes the story less about the clone army and more about our group of characters. Making the overall story scale smaller.
Same, plus that clone trooper has already been identified so it literally can’t be Rex lol
@@Sploinkss so was the old dude on endor, he had a name, Nik Sant. The video here makes it sound too much like this is actually canon, Filoni didn't make it canon for specifically the reason that he felt it would be wrong to remove an existing named character from canon for the cool headcanon to take its place. This was said in an inverview 6 months after the episode canonizing rex being on endor was aired so its safe to assume that the old dude isnt actually rex.
@@Sploinkss ok, so what is his identification then?
@@BethorienMC there were two old dudes, one in armor and one without. the one in armor had longer beard
The movie is Attack of the clones. But I think we all get it mixed up with the clone wars
It's definitely possible that the kaminoians would debrief the clones after the battle. As their first actual battle test it's even more likely that they would look for defects in their design. As seen in the clone wars, and later on in the bad batch, some if the kaminoians are intrigued by their creations going beyond their intended purpose. I think gathering a regiment to assault the spire and the praise of a high ranking diplomat would definitely qualify the possible rex for some additional training. This would later become common as clones who showed something special on the battle field received training to be ARC troopers. Also saving Padme would definitely make him more rememberable to Anakin who seems like he would want someone he already knew and respected rather than some random shiny captain.
Apparently Rex was made captain of the 501st prior to Anakin taking command, so it's possible that he picked this squad in particular because he knew who was its captain already through Padme
He he he.
Ypu said shiny.
@@megaplays2748 rex was kind of a nobody. Just a capt of a company in the 501st. He most likely would have died if palpi didnt give the 501st to anikin. Rex was sacraficial like that, to save his men. Luckily for rex, anikin was a good jedi n didnt get killed like the last one of the 501st.
That is true
This would also make “reminds me _of me_ actually” make more sense in hindsight, as he would have literally gone from a shiney to an ARC/Commando
I'm all for the clone looking after Padme. It makes a lot of sense anyway, and is poetic af
I'm glad I'm not the only one to have that personal head cannon about the Clone who helps Padme
Here’s my Rex Theory.
We know Rex was given his rank because of training from canon back story. We also know he was at both battles of Genosis.
Rex was the clone that fell out with Padme, that helps her and she sends off to get transportation, more clones, etc. After she tells him to do that, he does and above and beyond that, protecting her from stray droids (maybe from ships shot down?) that we’re trying to finish her off. After getting a ship and Padme; they rush to Anakin, Yoda, and Obi Wan in the hanger moments after Douku escapes (possibly firing on him as he’s leaving). Upon landing in the hanger, Rex is already leading the charge based on his orders from Padme. Anakin notices this, and later hearing from Padme that he is the clone that protected her when they fell out, he requests he be specially trained for command because of him helping Padme and leading charge to hanger, Anakin wants him to lead his personal legion, the 501st. Rex being the humble man he is, wouldn’t like to talk about his heroics, and would simply brush his rank off as having been acquired by special training, even though he got that training because of what he’d done.
This would be true to both Anakin and Rex’s characters and personalities. Fits with established canon events and back stories. It would also be super easy to throw confirmation into The Bad Batch as it would only require another meet up with Rex and Omega ask him a question like “how did you become a leader?” or something.
@smxisrainpYT aye
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Fans- "Is that even captain Rex?"
Dave Filoni- "I will make it so"
Unfortunately this video is not correct, i looked it up myself and Filoni confirmed its not Rex, im not sure if this guy is lying for views or just mistaken
@@Saintphoenix86 “Rex is, indeed, the white-bearded, blink-and-you-miss-him, Rebel Commando known as “Nik Sant,” Filoni said. This man was given the Christmas-inspired name Nik Sant by the fans before the Clone Wars show.
www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-rebels-finale-reveals-that-captain-rex-was-in-return-of-the-jedi/
@@LuchtLeiderNederland No hes not, just go read wookiepedia, it even states why filoni chose to not make it canon
@@Saintphoenix86 not everything is factual there ngl
It's not rex
The Trooper that looked after Padme, I'm holding out hope that Rex literally worked his way from Rank and file and was promoted to Captain by Earning it the hard way by his Masterful Battle Prowess
Canon reads that he was given additional training as a captain and then as an ARC trooper, it is not clear if these two or consecutive, it then states these occured before becoming in charge of 501st, it then states that he was in the battle of geonosis before being put in charge of the 501st, this vagueness makes it possibls that the extra training was after geonosis
I mean, considering the number of clone casualties on Geonosis, it's entirely possible that due to his actions on Geonosis, Rex was given special training to replace some other lost captain. There are ways to make it work if they want to make it work.
I think it's more poetic for Rex to have been the clone who helped Padme, followed her instructions, and then received special training to become a captain.
Isn't There a cómic about him?
I think the Idea of Rex being the clone with Yoda is the best, knowing the background knowledge of Rex being trained to be a Captain.
The video seems alright. I like how someone's finally going into this in depth, my only issue is that he was trained as an ARC.
I don’t think we need to speak out and make this random clone Rex. That seems silly to me. The battle was huge, he could have been anywhere. I think the canon gets less believable when you try to make every side character super important. The Endor Rex was a coincidence that worked out. But I don’t think we need to go digging around looking to retroactively rename characters.
Agreed
He wasn't even there he says so in the second battle lol
@@dovadork2707 Cody said that, not Rex
Im honestly really annoyed when people say that old man is rex like guys rex wasnt even thought of when the movies came out but if yall want to think of it u can
I agree, sure it’s poetic but it’s far too coincidental. Also makes the battle look far too small, when it was one of the largest and most costly battles in the war. Also thing is, sure he was ordered to gather men, but that’s the thing he was ordered to do so. We’ve seen in the CW TV show that even C3PO had some authority by ordering clones around. (At least last time I recall he had)
I don’t think we need to retroactively establish that Rex is on screen in Episode II, I think part of what made the ROTJ appearance so special is that it fit so well. I think just trying to shove him in anywhere we can cheapens that.
But it’s not just anywhere. It’s the same clone that fell out of the gun ship with Padme and looked after her
@@jamman5610 u missed the point
I agree💯
Also I would be open to just see Rex's personal journey on Geonisis be expanded upon in future material, similar to what happened in TCW season 7.
I'd hope for more star wars shorts where they actually link these scenes of him. ie him getting promoted for saving padme, talking to Han about dressing like a clone from back in the day, maybe even the day he started going by Rex.
Rex was a squad leader in the first battle of Geonosis, his actions helped get him selected for special command training under Alpha-17 after the battle. He was not a captain when the war kicked off.
Didn't they address Rex's exclusion from scenes in Attack of The Clones in one of the Geonosis Episodes of the Clone Wars?
I thought it was kind of explained or hinted that he was of course in the first battle of Geonosis but didn't have the main landing & objective that we saw in the movie. Keep in mind not every soldier on D-Day landed on Omaha beach.
I don’t think it hinted at rex at all, but I do know for sure there was a point where obi wan asked Cody if he was in the first battle of geonosis, and Cody responded with no. This might be what you’re thinking? But I could be wrong
Yeah it was cody, cuz he asked what was going on, and obi wan basically said u didnt miss much. Also rex might have said something about coming back, but idk
Exactly...being an ARC trooper, he would have had...more... special assignments
@@flynncarter229Gold
@@alexwesley6829 rex will never be an ARC Trooper just a wannabe knock off of one
"Experience out ranks everything." - Captain Rex, Battle of Christophsis. So yes, it'd be awesome for him to have started as a Private instead of being a Capt. already. Where else would he have gained that experience aside from training? Plus, it adds more to the idea that he lead his men by example because he was a Private himself at one point. That's being a true leader. When you gain the respect of your subordinates during battle.
He's an ARC trooper...so no.
@@yoloactual6975
There's more than one way of becoming an ARC. Especially with Dave's storytelling during the quasi-canon days between EU and Clone Wars. Plus, ARC training is separate from rank related training that most clones are born into. So is experiance, which no clone is born into. So I don't see why not.
@@marco117sw ARCs do not walk around in standard armor in these days. Nor did the Commandos. He was already an ARC by virtue of his position in command of the 501st. While the legends content on the creation of clone Commanders is not canon any longer, Rex's position is a precarious balance that is clearly paying homage to that story. He and all clone Commanders are trained ARCs. Considering the Commanders have all been around since Geonosis, as have countless Captains in position of CO (as seen in the attack of the clones movie itself.) It is likely safe to assume he was a Captain then as well. I personally believe this is where Rex's love and respect for Anakin originates, because he is a talented and competent commander who he respects as his Jedi General, exactly contrary to what he had come to expect during his command on Geonosis.
@@yoloactual6975
Not all commanders were ARCs in the EU. And even if Legends no longer pertains to canon in some respects, Dave has confirmed on multiple occasions that his inspiration did indeed come from Legends material. So not everything should be dismissed for simply being in a separate verse. Plus, even in the Disney Canon, all the movies are considered canon to the lore. Which means, not all Commanders were ARCs at the start of the war as depicted in Episode 2, if we're going by armor traits like u pointed out. Atleast, not initially. Just as Phase 1 armor was denoting rank structure and not unit markings back then, none of the commanders were ARCs as of yet. Which means, exemplary Commanders weren't trained to be ARCs until some point after Geonosis. There's three possible ways he may have achieved ARC and Captain. 1. Rex underwent Commander training first (and became Capt) before going into ARC training. 2. Rex underwent ARC training first and was promoted to Capt to compensate for 2 very important reasons. His unorthodox entry to the program, i.e. not a commander to begin with and the leading role of a Legion that is for all intents and purposes, a subordinate to the 212th and directly authorized by the chancellor. Although these points are plausible, they become moot anyway with the following reference and point from EU. 3. ARCs in Legends wore phase 1 armor denoting rank as well. Most being Lt. (Blue) and Capt. (Red) However, there were Commanders (Yellow) who were also ARCs that early into the war. But there was an exceptionally rare occasion of a Sgt. (Green) being an ARC. Only one "Green" ARC was known to exist, N-12 A'den. Now most would argue that ARC Troopers were reserved for officer ranks only. And this is understandably incorrect since most don't know of the existence of a "Green" ARC (side note, I'd love to see an official action fig of this guy). So even in Legends, Captains serving as ARCs alongside potential NCOs who also underwent ARC training was not too farfetched to believe. Case in point, after the Battle of Geonosis, Rex gets promoted to Sgt. Rex is then either sent to ARC or Commander training, depending which happens first. Rex gets promoted after ARC or Commander training to Capt. and receives the 501st under his command. Again, I don't see y Rex starting off as a pvt can't work. Clones in EU were born into their ranks and job structures. Clone Wars hasn't confirmed or denied clones being born as ARCs and were only seen at the earliest right after Geonosis, not too dissimilar to Legends. The only difference was, ARCs did exist prior to Geonosis in EU, where as the CW series has not confirmed.
@@marco117sw I too am aware of the original ARC lore btw. After the micro series dropped when I was a child, I was fascinated with them. But I mean I dont get where your points are differing from mine outside of not all ARCs necessarily being pre-geonosis. Though from my understanding (while again not being canon) that was later revised, and Commanders were bread, and trained specifically through the entirety of the ARC program.
I had a feeling that was the scene they were gonna use. I always liked that clone as a kid and thought he had more screen time than he actually did🤣 I only realized when I recently rewatched the movies. I personally don’t think that’s him tho
Rex should be the one who looked after Padme, he is recognized for answering the call above and beyond his orders. Anakin once choosing a group of clones to be under his command (this is done becomes the masters can choose and since Obi Wan is a high ranking member of the Jedi order he convinces them to let Anakin choose his [Obi Wan is with him] ), is looking over them and Rex stands out as he says something to the effect of, "It would be a great honer to serve under you sir" Anakin "your name trooper?" "Lieutenant Rex sir." either way he says something to stand out witch prompts them telling Anakin what Rex did. Anakin hears this and plays it off as he doesn't really know her, but he does it playfully like Anakin does asking about the details of what happened, us knowing full well that clone watched over the love of his life. Anakin says "It's nice to meet you Rex. I've made my decision I'll take the 501st under my command, and uh, see too it Rex gets promoted for what he did." " Master Jedi clones aren't promoted they are engineered from birth for their roles and receive special training so that they are ready when the time comes" Obi Wan: "If that's all he needs then i can't see why he cant be trained, he's shown that he is more than capable. Wouldn't you agree Anakin?" Anakin: "In-fact I could see no one else more capable Obi Wan to be in command than him."
Idk i like the idea feel free to poke wholes in it i just find this fitting ya know.
“Is there any reason this clone can’t be Rex?”
I swear he was in a comic
He is so it ain’t him
His name was torrent or something
Having Rex be the Clone who helped Padme would be pretty wizard.
Also, WandaVision!
Wandavision? Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
ITS BEEN AGNESS ALL ALOOONG (idk if I spelled her name right lol)
@@marielawrence468 *Agatha
I like the theory that he looked after Padme and based off of what you said I don't think it's out of the question for Anakin or Padme to get him a promotion
I think he’s the one talking to Yoda. It just makes the most sense to me
Rex was a special legion leader. And i think the clone that helps Padme is Rex, becouse he was already with Anakin on the LAAT.
Rex: Why you people keep promoting me to Commander?
I’m the one who helped Padme, she commented on my leadership skills to General Windu and General Yoda, they then granted me the rank if commander and once Commander Tano joined the 501st I was bumped down to Captain rex
I have a theory: Captain Rex is known to be trained a captain. However, we see Kamino clones cloning still going. It is possible that the clone who helped Padme is Rex. Rex could be in the middle of his training, but was assigned to the battlefield as maybe a assignment or something.
Assisting your idea, I’d say that Rex was hastily field promoted on Geonosis. With all the clones on the LAAT he was on killed, he probably would be the last member of that team alive and his remaining company needing a chain of command. It may explain why he still has his “CT” designation instead of a “CC” like Cody or Wolf.
nah see, im trying to spread this in the comments. The clone who saved padme already has a backstory
One problem: in bad batch omega remarks that rex is one of the first produced clones, so he would either be done, or almost complete with his training
no reason that he could be promoted or given special training after the battle, even for a 1st generation clone
@Robert Smith Star Wars in a universe in which people are trained and promoted faster than the real world. Luke shot up to Commander in just a few years. Lando had an even shorter timeframe of promotion to General in just under a year of joining the Rebel Alliance. Clone Troopers also had “flash training” which made them capable of learning combat faster. A few days or weeks to train as a Captain or even ARC Trooper is plausible.
There are excuses that I feel can be made in order for the Padme clone to he Rex. For Example:
Sure, he was brought up and trained to be a captain from the get go, but Rex being Rex insisted on earning that rank for himself. We know he's stubborn like that. Or you can say he was brought up to be a captain, but hadn't quite finished his training before the clones had to be deployed to Geonosis. With most of his training already complete, he had enough knowledge to effectively manage a team under Padmé's orders, and thus earning his stripes on the field rather than in a training facility.
And maybe this is how he earned his Jaig Eyes
I recall hearing how Rex had proven repeatedly that he had earned the promotion to commander but insisted on staying a captain, so this stubbornness and insistence on joining his brothers in the field as a shiny is very fitting
Anakin skywalker was 501st Jedi general, Ashoka tano was 501st Jedi commander. Rex stay as Captain because of Ashoka tano. You can’t have two commanders in battalion
That makes a lot of sense mandatory fruit
@@alanmulligan4700 And what about before and after Ahsoka was in command?
I don’t know if this has been said yet but, Captain Rex’s identification numbers were CT-7567. With CT being the abbreviation for Clone Trooper, so from the start he wasn’t even an officer which had the abbreviation CC (don’t quote on that one though but i know that is what clone commander abbreviations are), so Rex achieved the rank of Captain later on in the war. So I think that makes it even more plausible even if only slightly that the clone that fell with Padme on Geonosis was Rex.
On the part of the part of clone ranks, if/ when clones are bred for certain ranks then instead of a CT number they get a CS( for sergeants) CC( captain or commander) ARC for arc trooper, so on and so forth, so the fact that Rex is CT-7567 implies heavily that he did in fact get a battlefield promotion, add to this that he may have received special training on Kamino, but that may have been because he was perhaps the marshal of his squad.
3:48.... I've never noticed one of the rebels disguised as a stormtrooper...
Same lmao
Same😂
Perfect theory: Rex hadn’t finished his training before the battle began, he wasn’t promoted until after the battle had finished :D
Sorry to burst your bubble but... It states that captain rex was given training to be a captain before the battle of geonosis. Meaning he would have had the original red paint scheme so it is more likely that Rex would have been the Captain that Yoda talks to and tells him "Focus fire on the nearest star ship" or possibly one of the many captain seen on screen in the major battle (look for the red paint) such as the captain the first talks to Ki-Adi Mundi and then to Kit Fisto in the background while Mace Windu speaks with a commander or even the Captain leading a squad following behind Mace Windu into battle... etc. You're simple looking at the wrong troop type.
I think my personal favourite way of introducing Captain Rex to Attack of the Clones would be to do a mini series/film based on him and his training to become a Captain. Have it set between the first battle of Geonosis and when Anakin picks him to become his personal leader of the 501st. It could start with a flashback to Rex's experiences on Geonosis, then move on to his captain training and have him go on a few missions where he's an understudy to an already established leader. This leader could be an already established commander such as Cody, who is then re-situated elsewhere and Rex has to take over in command; or bring in a new clone leader who sacrifices himself during a mission to save the team and then Rex takes over. I think that by having him be an understudy and then promoted to leader will reinforce Rex's motto of 'experience out ranks everything'. Then the series/film could end with a huge battle which results in Rex being recruited by Anakin
The name of the series/film could either be something that makes it obvious it is about Captain Rex and his training, or something discreet to keep it a secret. Imagine if we don't get told the name of the clone until the very end of the serires/film and it's filmed in 1st person to keep Rex's identity a secret until the very end, having the camera pan to a 3rd person shot of Rex and Anakin.
It would only be right for anikan to trust the clone who got padme to safety during ep 2. So he promoted him.
Wow, I didn't think of that, also Anakin was still a Padawan at that time, so he needed to be knighted first like what we saw in 2003 CW
I think a CGI paint job on the clone who checked on Padme would be awfully simple to do.
That's just what I was thinking, and it's not like they haven't already touched up the original trilogy about 50 times so why not
@@tywatts700 yep, just make a special edition for the prequels and swap the 3D model from a white clone to a red clone and we’ll be satisfied
Also putting a little arrow on Appo's helmet in ep. 3.
@@eliaspeter7689 yea
@@eliaspeter7689 Could be that during or before the assault his helmet got damaged and he didn't have the time to repaint it?
This kind of retroactive continuity is stuff I’m all for it gives more info on stuff that is going on and allows for better enjoyment of older content
NAH WAY WAY IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE LIKE THIS FOR SOOO LONG! thanks (Sorry for all the caps just excited)
😂 I’m pretty Sure Rex was too busy kicking clanker @ss in the field.
Thats why I think he is the third option
>:( the c word is a racial slur u cant say that unless u are non organic smh
Oh yeah, you can't say that
Wow he really used the C word I can’t IM SO OFFENDED
Marcellus Chen 🤣 throw all the clankers in the recycle, I hate em 😭
“He sounds just like him!”
Every single CLONE trooper: well… DUH!!!
My favorite rebels scene Kanen freaking out “you shot us” Rex “you shot us? Hahahahaha”😂🤦♂️😭
Rex is not that clone who fell with Padme. Rex was trained and selected probably from birth or in his childhood to be a captain or at least some leader or commanding role in the clone army. He was assigned a leadership position in the 501st legion. Anakin was assigned command over the 501st legion. Rex and Anakin established a good relationship over the course of fighting in the war together in the same battalion. It does not have to be complicated.
Padme gave that clone tall orders because he was the only clone there to command so he had to step up to the plate to fulfill his duty and that is what he did.
I doubt Rex would not have had markings on that battle. He was one of the commanding (maybe captain) clones in that battle on screen, or he was off-screen.
His clone tag is CT-7567, "CT" meaning Clone Trooper whereas commander Cody's tag is CC-2224, "CC" meaning Clone commander which means he could have had his captin's training after the first battle of Geonosis. Meaning that he could have been an unranked clone trooper during the battle and could still be that clone in the clip.
Cody said he wasn’t there to obi wan
@@ksam3427 So? That has nothing to do with what he said.
@@bable6314 then that MEANS he wasnt fuckin there
@@ksam3427 they’re not talking about cody, they’re talking about Rex. They’re saying maybe Rex got his training after geonosis
@@mymilkshakebringsalltheboy391 oh
If I remember correctly, most of the well known clone commanders/captains received extra training from arc troopers to become better at being commanders. This included Commander Cody who was not present at the time of the 1st battle of Geonosis. Which means this extra training took place after or during that. So it would be possible that Captain Rex was the clone who helped Padme, and was at the time a standard rank and file, but was chosen to be apart of the commander training program for his exemplary skills during Geonosis. Maybe he joined the training while it was ongoing and that's why he was given the rank captain and not commander. That or he was not bred to be a commander and that's why he was only a captain even though he took part in the program. That could also explain why he preferred the rank of captain over commander, because its the rank he earned from being a rank and file who stood out enough to be given the opportunity to get extra training with troopers bred to be commanders. Perhaps having the rank of captain gives Rex a feeling of pride.
Captain rex never served at geonosis, he says it in an episode of the clone war called "Landing at point rain" when he is talking to Obi Wan
@@termiusprime That was Commander Cody. He was walking with him in the hanger towards a gunship and Obi-Wan asked Cody if he fought in the 1st battle
6:00 this is not Rex that’s actually a clone with the number: CT85077 and he has a backstory at least in legends.
Legends isn't cannon
i’d also bring up how rex mentions to fives and echo in the clone wars show that they reminded him
of himself back in the day and he said this before they were promoted to arc troopers which could show he was also originally not a captain but was promoted later
The clone who looks after padme actually had his own story, there was a moment in the comic that was the word for word moment from episode 2
In the episode of Star wars the clone wars that introduced Cut lequane cut asks Rex if he was in the first Battle of geonosis and Rex replies "No". Because of this simple scene and fact makes it nearly impossible for Captain Rex to be in episode 2: Attack of the clones
Gonna have to rewatchh that episode now! That would be an inconsistency with Rebels, but stranger things have happened.
I remembered CODY saying he wasn't at geonosis, but I'd forgotten about this line.
As an added note, the current canon states Rex WAS at Geonosis, so that would sadly retcon the line from Cuts episode
@@LoreStar My rule of thumb is when canon conflicts with itself, it's what's on screen that takes precedence. Also, since people remember things wrong as time goes by, it's possible when conflicting screen references are just that and the latest screen reference is just remembered wrong and the early reference is correct.
@@LoreStar There were two battles on Geonosis. Rex may be referring to the second one in rebels.
@@LoreStar I do Recall there were two battles of Geonosis and I'm pretty sure Rex was at the second. On the wiki concerning this battle it states "Rex's gunships were shot down".
I like the with Padme idea. It makes the most sense. Making him the only clone to earn a position would be awesome
This video has the best manscaped ad I have every seen in my life
Actually, clones raised to be captains would have a different clone number. CT means a normal trooper. CS, CL, etc. would be clones raised for that rank.
True so it’s odd that Rex’s number is CT-7567. This could imply that perhaps Rex received his special training after the Battle of Geonosis in recognition of his actions.
@@neuracast4739 actually no his special training was while he was a cadet. He received special arc training
@@darshan.. Oh ok
@@darshan.. what if he was undergoing the training then the battle of geonosis happened? It was outta nowhere. Then due to his actions and helping padme he got promoted and finished his training. Likely not true but it’s a possibility
Most clones raised for high rank are cc
We never see the front half of this clone. Could he have gotten the Jaig Eyes for taking care of Padme on the battlefield
you nailed it
What are Jaig Eyes
@@impulse7942 the two triangular markings rex has on his helmet
Not possible, besides receiving it on kamino, it was because of his dedication to his brothers and given by his Mandalorian instructor. This were given in training to clones who showed combat prowess.
So if we take into consideration that he was in training to be a captain when he was given the honor, then that leaves no possibility for this to be the reason.
We do see his front when he falls out of the gunship.
Fankly what made the OG Rex theory work so well was how well it worked without any fanagling. It was just perfect and that "Star aligning" moment was then ran with and expanded upon. However, if the information we have is that Capains were trained as Captains from the beginning and Rex was meant to be one of them, and Capatin at Geonosis were red. Then Rex is one of the red troopers either on or off screen.
The old guy in Return of the Jedi is Nik Sant. This has been known for years, and while Filoni originally said that yes it could be Rex, he and George removed that idea saying that it wasn’t right to take that character away from the actor who played the part.
The privilege of being in the original trilogy without being even created yet
It's fun to imagine that there is some sort of afterlife in Star Wars where you rejoin the Force but a part of you lives on and when Rex finally dies, a LONG time after nearly all of his brothers, he finds them all again and hoo boy has he got one helluva story to tell.
Rex is the one who helped Padme. He is wearing white armor because the clone army wasn't fully ready to deploy. Yoda just shows up out of the blue and takes them away to Geonosis. Thats my thoughts, its not coincidence its the Force
"you shot us" **proceeds to laugh**
That gets me every time🤣
My theory and head cannon:
Rex was originally just a rank in file clone on kamino, but the Kaminoans had left some regs with special genes to see if they had the ability to use special skills that they hadn't had exact training for. We see this with Fives and Echo, normal clones that are EXTREMELY creative on the field of battle and very adaptable. Once they noticed (in training) that Rex showed these skills he was trained with the others captains and higher ranks, Unofficially giving him rank of captain which would line up with his backstory. On the field of battle when he helped padme he officially got rank of captain.
This idea would further tie him to Fives and Echo in that he had a similar start, as a special reg that became something more
One thing that disproves the final bit of evedance at about 7:40 is that Rex's birth digits where CT-7567 which means rex was promoted to captain from regular trooper the bottom rank in the gar and yes I actually studied the clone ranking system at some point cus I was bored
Nice catch. Cody has the CC designation, so does Bacara.
Really good catch. I like the theory that Rex is promoted through experience and not breeding because of his conversation with Ahsoka when we are first introduced to him
@@eugeniawong249 I agree, Clones like Cody was born with CC meaning Clone Commander, and CT is the distinction for a normal clone which will lead to Rex later on being Promoted, we also see him getting promoted to Commander in the clone wars, so you don’t need to be born Commander to be one, it’s much likely before him as a captain 501st had a Commander but was killed, and Rex was the man left in charge, but he weren’t ready for Commander so he was made captain, it is seen in the clone wars that Clones does rise through the ranks from CT to Luitantent.
@@markaarons12 yea I know but i was talking about a time prior to Ahsoka
Me too man me too
this is one of those things where a retcon wouldnt hurt and it would be awesome to learn that one of those CGI clones was really him
First conversation on the gunship between Rex and Annikan
Annikan: "How come your armor is all white if you're a captain?"
Rex: "I don't like red, its bold and rough, and paint gets everywhere"
I'd rather see like a one-off film from Rex's perspective of his early days as a clone cadet through to a reprise of the Battle of Geonosis (where we see it from his perspective) and then time-jumps past the stuff we see in CW/Rebels to the Battle of Endor (where see it from his perspective once more).
I’d prefer a Rex and anakin film set before tcw where the 2 bond together
Make it have a band of brothers feel, and have the only living clone of that battalion after geonosis be Rex and that's how he's promoted