5:35 - You CAN actually angle those nodes using "Node Controller", select the node, then Node Controller, and it gives you several options, including "Slope". 🙂
I was about to comment this. It's not exactly obvious until you've played around with the tool, but once you know, you know. A shame it's not the default 😿
There's also a setting to make all nodes Slope by default, because otherwise you sometimes even get wonky curves when a node gets transformed to "Bend" instead of "Middle", and "Bends" are set to Flat by default.
Back to classic RCE highway engineering. With the exception of bridge building my favorite videos of the channel since they are entertaining and help understanding the real world a bit better.
I find that just tweaking the angles with MoveIt far more effective. Node controller is a bit hit-or-miss. If the angles line up, the road will just 'snap' into a seamless transition.
The first 2.5 minutes was him explaining why every interchange into my city's main artery is awful. But the city council has spent $100 million figuring it out. And it will be fixed to support 2018 demand by 2027
9:30 you can almost instantly delete those messy junctions since you already have Move it 😉 Set it to only select nodes, draw your selection square over the junction, and then use the deletion tool from Move it. Poof, gone is the mess. The angle restrictions for roads can also be "fixed" with mods, including the anarchy ones and precision engineering ^^
Love RCE's videos, highlight of my evening. Shame he hasn't discovered a few extra mods like network multitool, intersection marking tool and node controller. Might have made his life easier designing these. Thoroughly enjoyed it though - Keep up the great content
Also as someone who has encountered the stack in real life, it's really fucking confusing and ridiculous. You're just looking at a giant web of bridges and there is absolutely no intuitive way of looking at them and figuring out which one you actually want to be on
We have five-level stack interchanges in Texas, one for each highway, then two more levels for the left-turn ramps, plus a fifth level for the frontage roads, which form four at-grade intersections of two one-way streets. Plus there might be more ramps for HOV/toll lanes. The best example has a name, the High Five in Dallas, which connects US-75 and I-635.
The reason I subscribed in the first place... Freeways. Don't know exactly why, but when Matt explained real life highway concepts in an entertaining manner, it kept me coming back. This video and the many like it are awesome. Keep it up, Matt!
My man, the lore for this map spans years at this point. Glad to see it. New viewers can only fathom what the rest of us had to mill through to get his serious civil engineer’s take on Engitopia…
Dear RCE i would just like you to know. You nearly killed me tonight. i lost it when you said "im like a duck's butt. im water tight". Boy i nearly pissed myself i tell you what! lol. Had to wait to catch my breath and rewind where i left off lol.
I cant believe you can do all of this so smoothly while teaching us while it is all reversed from what you are used to working with in the uk. Awesome job.
Reverse orientation doesn’t matter when the roads are one way lol. Besides, the game has the option to switch the orientation. So I think he’d just do that if it were an issue for him.
Not the magic roundabout that's a nightmare! We've been in UK (plus in my country we drive on the right side) and we have been literally stucked here for like ten minutes, we even went the wrong direction one time and we couldn't find our way out. IT WAS HORRIBLE.
Those interchanges where one lane is a merge lane for cars joining the highway BEFORE becomming an exit lane for cars exiting the highway... There's multiple of those in my city! They drive me crazy!
You can deal with both the 42 degree problem and the 'lump' problem with MoveIt. For the former, just pull in the angle after placing it. For the latter, just tweak the angle until it 'snaps' together, making a seamless transition.
I grew up near that magic roundabout in swindon, my driving instructor directed me to cross it on like my second ever lesson, can confirm it felt as confusing as it looks from that aerial photo haha
A common Danish way is we got a bridge over the motorway and each side we got a roundabout that has the on and off ramp to and off the motorway - seems to work well
using a mix of 1-3 lane highway roads and TMPE you can setup proper lane math for the interchange. If you use intersection marking tool, you can customize the look of your interchanges and junctions. Lane math will help your traffic a lot. --------------------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------- - - - - - - - / / -------------- idk how well this shows but a 2 lane highway turns into a 3 lane highway to give merging traffic their own lane. then with diverging traffic, 3 lane turns into 2 lane and 1 lane is a dedicated turning lane so 1 lane only leads off.
It seems to me that the easiest way is to make right-turns on ground, then take left turns off on the left side, and up to a roundabout then out where you need to go, including u-turns. Also making the merging traffic have it's own lanes to not have slowdowns. if it is a 3 or 4 lane highway can be decided by how much of traffic goes straight ahead.
I was way too excited to see that RCE did a video on motorway interchanges. Probably the most excited I’ve been to watch a TH-cam video in weeks. This is exactly the content I wanted.
Was happy to see that this junction got finally an update But would like to see all types of junctions in a row on one motorway. Would be a great addition to engitopia in my eyes
The bridge at 8:00 is the bridge that connects the main highways around Antwerp Belguim, the only thing is they lowered the main highway in the ground so you have to use less bridges
On the diverging diamond, you could make the curved roads go under the bridge and had a straight bridge. I would avoid that magic roundabout, it is insane.
The best interchange in C:S is the one with the longest ramps per area unit to store all the cars once the asinine traffic AI inadvertently clogs up everything because everyone wants to make a left turn somewhere. (Or right turn in case of left hand traffic)
As a Brit who has driven through the magic roundabout I can confirm whilst I am 'okay with roundabouts' that thing is a heart attack inducing living nightmare.
Normal roundabouts go clockwise in countries that drive on the left such as the UK. The satalite roundabouts on a magic roundabout all go clockwise. The central hub is a ringroad and vehicles can go either way. They can go clockwise around the central hub if they take the first exit off the entry roundabout and anticlockwise around it if they take the second exit off the entry roundabout. See 13:30.
@@andrewpatterson5479 Thank you! I live in the US and I've always hated roundabouts or anything that requires merging to the left. I recently realized this is because I have trouble turning my head to the left. So if I were to encounter a roundabout in the UK, I would look over my right shoulder and probably have no problem with it!
The diverging diamond interchange you built is technically a DCMI (Double Crossover Merging Interchange) rather than a DDI. The difference is that the lanes don't connect where they cross each other and therefore there are no conflict points and no need for traffic lights.
The problem in cities skylines, is that the cars don't use all the lanes. At the start i used 6 lanes streets as main roads, but they only use 2 lanes tops.
Nodes actually slope, you just need to find the right angle and distance to trigger it, with move it it's as easy as curving or moving the section of the road a little bit.
C:S2 really needs exit lanes and acceleration lanes. Not going onto the highway and make traffic stop for right. Or on ramp with stop sign or something. Go, move, accelerate, Then merge.
Since CS2 was announced, I've been playing this game again after a long absence... and I never really got proficient at it in the first place. I'm really struggling with pacing my city's growth to keep my income positive, even with the help of other CS TH-camrs. I have a night off work on Sunday and I'm planning to start a new city from scratch. I'm not using any mods because I'm still trying to earn Steam achievements.
If you want traffic to be able to turn around for what ever reason, you could replace the four left turn ramps with one roundabout, where the on ramps are inside and the offramps on the outside, with adding/subtracting a lane at each ramp. If the traffic stays in lane it‘s like the turbine, but it would allow other movement via the spiral by switching lane
Idk why but the idea of merging from one those elevated single lane bridges to the more busier double lane bridge kinda triggers my anxiety. I mean at least when merging from a ramp to the main highway at least in real life, you probably would only have really short metal railings to look over or already be flush against the road so no visual obstruction with oncoming traffic, but with those bridges, you'd have to have proper barriers for safety that would obscure quite a bit of your view so you'd have very little reaction time (as no one actually drive as slow as they should on ramps, plus you'd need to have a decent speed as to not interrupt oncoming traffic). Meh, call me a scarycat but I wouldn't want to drive on that lol.
"we don't want many curves, and short bridges" And then there's the highway in Fukuoka, Japan, that is two bridges often stacked on top of each other going over the entire city, bending like crazy
Real world question for an engineer. What about tunnels. It was said that bridges are expensive...are they more expensive that a bridge? Also, how expensive is their maintenance? If one were to use tunnels instead of bridges for something like that, would a construction cost less money....over it´s livespan I mean?
5:35 - You CAN actually angle those nodes using "Node Controller", select the node, then Node Controller, and it gives you several options, including "Slope". 🙂
^this. And it may already get sloped depending on how you make the first connection in vanilla, too!
I was about to comment this. It's not exactly obvious until you've played around with the tool, but once you know, you know. A shame it's not the default 😿
Matt using Node Controller ans Network Multitool would be fun
There's also a setting to make all nodes Slope by default, because otherwise you sometimes even get wonky curves when a node gets transformed to "Bend" instead of "Middle", and "Bends" are set to Flat by default.
Also the network multitool mod hels with slopes! But for nodes, yeah node controller is best
Only this man can keep me entertained with highway intersections
Only this man's community can keep bringing me back to this YEAR OLD COMMENT MY GOD
79 likes and 0 comments lemme fix that
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I was unreasonablely upset when he deleted the first intersection tho lol
I actually love when you use real engineering in these games and how you explain it, it's really interesting.
I have the same pfp on discord, feels weird seeing it out in the wild or at least the same character! :D
Back to classic RCE highway engineering. With the exception of bridge building my favorite videos of the channel since they are entertaining and help understanding the real world a bit better.
Wish he would put some real life pics just to see how it ideally would look like.
@5:35 - Node Controller will do this. You can change the node from flat to sloped.
lol i wonder how many people commented this
@@takumi2023I just posted, then deleted mine.
I find that just tweaking the angles with MoveIt far more effective. Node controller is a bit hit-or-miss. If the angles line up, the road will just 'snap' into a seamless transition.
You need node controller to slant a junction, mind you.
Dude. This video is brilliant! There's a lot of magic going on in that basement of yours.
The first 2.5 minutes was him explaining why every interchange into my city's main artery is awful. But the city council has spent $100 million figuring it out. And it will be fixed to support 2018 demand by 2027
Today RCE has finally watched Biffa's episodes of road building, and learnt lane mathematics!! Give a cuppa tea. 😜
You know it from the "jiggery pokery" at 10:15
9:30 you can almost instantly delete those messy junctions since you already have Move it 😉 Set it to only select nodes, draw your selection square over the junction, and then use the deletion tool from Move it. Poof, gone is the mess.
The angle restrictions for roads can also be "fixed" with mods, including the anarchy ones and precision engineering ^^
Love RCE's videos, highlight of my evening. Shame he hasn't discovered a few extra mods like network multitool, intersection marking tool and node controller. Might have made his life easier designing these. Thoroughly enjoyed it though - Keep up the great content
I have been sick at home with a throat infection. I can't sleep, eat, talk, barely drink, go outside... This keeps me up! I love your content man!
I loved this kind of video where you explain real freeway engineering in a fun context. Its entertaining and educational!
You always know that it’s a great day when RCE post city skylines!
one advantage of the Clover over the stack, is that on the clover you can turn around, on the stacks you can't.
thats what i was thinking 👍
Wow, that’s a major shortcoming. I totally missed that
same for the turbine, cant turn around
Also as someone who has encountered the stack in real life, it's really fucking confusing and ridiculous. You're just looking at a giant web of bridges and there is absolutely no intuitive way of looking at them and figuring out which one you actually want to be on
The difference between being able to turn around or not is not the infrastructure of the city but rather the bravery of the heart.
- Plato
We have five-level stack interchanges in Texas, one for each highway, then two more levels for the left-turn ramps, plus a fifth level for the frontage roads, which form four at-grade intersections of two one-way streets. Plus there might be more ramps for HOV/toll lanes. The best example has a name, the High Five in Dallas, which connects US-75 and I-635.
I love it that the cars almost tip over 2:04
The reason I subscribed in the first place... Freeways. Don't know exactly why, but when Matt explained real life highway concepts in an entertaining manner, it kept me coming back. This video and the many like it are awesome. Keep it up, Matt!
My man, the lore for this map spans years at this point. Glad to see it. New viewers can only fathom what the rest of us had to mill through to get his serious civil engineer’s take on Engitopia…
I love how this is the same interchange as from this video:
"Which is THE BEST Highway Interchange Layout? Freeways!"
RCE do railway junctions next with realistic slope gradients for railways 🙏
Dear RCE i would just like you to know. You nearly killed me tonight. i lost it when you said "im like a duck's butt. im water tight". Boy i nearly pissed myself i tell you what! lol. Had to wait to catch my breath and rewind where i left off lol.
Came for the efficient Cities Skylines tricks, stayed to learn more about actual highway engineering principles :D
Idk if you know that, but in the TM:PE settings u can enable advanced vehicle AI, then they'll use more Lanes and the traffic gets better
I cant believe you can do all of this so smoothly while teaching us while it is all reversed from what you are used to working with in the uk. Awesome job.
Reverse orientation doesn’t matter when the roads are one way lol. Besides, the game has the option to switch the orientation. So I think he’d just do that if it were an issue for him.
Not the magic roundabout that's a nightmare! We've been in UK (plus in my country we drive on the right side) and we have been literally stucked here for like ten minutes, we even went the wrong direction one time and we couldn't find our way out. IT WAS HORRIBLE.
15:07 can't stop laughing, "i love that people already using this just to turn around"
Those interchanges where one lane is a merge lane for cars joining the highway BEFORE becomming an exit lane for cars exiting the highway... There's multiple of those in my city! They drive me crazy!
8:09 at the moment he talks about merges and diverges, a little pink car perfectly cuts off a truck 😂
You can deal with both the 42 degree problem and the 'lump' problem with MoveIt.
For the former, just pull in the angle after placing it.
For the latter, just tweak the angle until it 'snaps' together, making a seamless transition.
"It did stop in time" he said calmly as the garbage truck ploved through 2 cars
I grew up near that magic roundabout in swindon, my driving instructor directed me to cross it on like my second ever lesson, can confirm it felt as confusing as it looks from that aerial photo haha
A common Danish way is we got a bridge over the motorway and each side we got a roundabout that has the on and off ramp to and off the motorway - seems to work well
using a mix of 1-3 lane highway roads and TMPE you can setup proper lane math for the interchange. If you use intersection marking tool, you can customize the look of your interchanges and junctions. Lane math will help your traffic a lot.
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idk how well this shows but a 2 lane highway turns into a 3 lane highway to give merging traffic their own lane.
then with diverging traffic, 3 lane turns into 2 lane and 1 lane is a dedicated turning lane so 1 lane only leads off.
It seems to me that the easiest way is to make right-turns on ground, then take left turns off on the left side, and up to a roundabout then out where you need to go, including u-turns. Also making the merging traffic have it's own lanes to not have slowdowns. if it is a 3 or 4 lane highway can be decided by how much of traffic goes straight ahead.
I was way too excited to see that RCE did a video on motorway interchanges. Probably the most excited I’ve been to watch a TH-cam video in weeks. This is exactly the content I wanted.
I think the allure of the double diamond is that it can be retrofitted to existing overpasses. With lots of signals of course.
Was happy to see that this junction got finally an update
But would like to see all types of junctions in a row on one motorway. Would be a great addition to engitopia in my eyes
So... this is the video for people who didn't watch his play-through of Freeways. All that's missing is a score of each of the interchanges.
That Freeways play through is awesome 🥇
The bridge at 8:00 is the bridge that connects the main highways around Antwerp Belguim, the only thing is they lowered the main highway in the ground so you have to use less bridges
On the diverging diamond, you could make the curved roads go under the bridge and had a straight bridge.
I would avoid that magic roundabout, it is insane.
This man is giving the creators of city skylines (2) the best ideas that everyone wants
He really made the middle roundabout left hand drive😂
that "magic roundabout" just looks like a giant road pancake where it's free for all - survival of the fittest .xD
it would be pretty funny to see Biffa do a city fix on this city
There's this intersection in my area that I have always thought was so odd. Now I know, it is the Diverging Diamond, thank you for making this clear!
The best interchange in C:S is the one with the longest ramps per area unit to store all the cars once the asinine traffic AI inadvertently clogs up everything because everyone wants to make a left turn somewhere. (Or right turn in case of left hand traffic)
As a Brit who has driven through the magic roundabout I can confirm whilst I am 'okay with roundabouts' that thing is a heart attack inducing living nightmare.
Weird question, but if you drive on the left side of the road, do roundabouts go clockwise or anticlockwise?
Normal roundabouts go clockwise in countries that drive on the left such as the UK. The satalite roundabouts on a magic roundabout all go clockwise. The central hub is a ringroad and vehicles can go either way. They can go clockwise around the central hub if they take the first exit off the entry roundabout and anticlockwise around it if they take the second exit off the entry roundabout. See 13:30.
@@andrewpatterson5479 Thank you! I live in the US and I've always hated roundabouts or anything that requires merging to the left. I recently realized this is because I have trouble turning my head to the left. So if I were to encounter a roundabout in the UK, I would look over my right shoulder and probably have no problem with it!
The diverging diamond interchange you built is technically a DCMI (Double Crossover Merging Interchange) rather than a DDI. The difference is that the lanes don't connect where they cross each other and therefore there are no conflict points and no need for traffic lights.
The problem in cities skylines, is that the cars don't use all the lanes.
At the start i used 6 lanes streets as main roads, but they only use 2 lanes tops.
I miss the freeways videos and that’s all I was thinking about watching this
Where I live we have a highway where you can see a top of a building with a pool on top.
We are also known for our great roads and drivers /j.
3 years ago I remember you saying “ let’s make this realistic as possible.” And now 3 years later we have this crazy engineering land.
I feel this video actually increased my IQ
Concentric was the word you were looking for ;) That's parallel for circles.
i am on my way becomming an ingeneer and i came across your channel lets say you do an interesting job in your videos great job
As a transportation grad student, the is is the first time I didn’t fall asleep during a lecture. You ever think of being a professor
I really like actual engeneering as a part of the vidoe. I thing it is my favourit City Skyline video so far
when you make a new world there is a drive on the left hand side button as a brit the left is the correct side (love your vids)
It's like watching Matt play Freeways again, but in 3D! 😄
I'm like a ducks butt - watertight! isn't a sentence I expected to hear today... But hilarious nonetheless...
The symbol that the top of the1st junction made 💀
Nodes actually slope, you just need to find the right angle and distance to trigger it, with move it it's as easy as curving or moving the section of the road a little bit.
The right side of the road is the right side of the road to drive on, that is why they call it the right side of the road.
"Bridges and curves don't go well together. Anyway, here is my Turbine Interchange."
They built one of the diverging diamonds (on grade, under an interstate) near me in Iowa, and it broke everyone’s brains for a while
That's why, our roads have a dedicate exit lane. So that traffic can use it to exit and merge, without affecting the flow of traffic.
C:S2 really needs exit lanes and acceleration lanes. Not going onto the highway and make traffic stop for right. Or on ramp with stop sign or something. Go, move, accelerate, Then merge.
FINALLY BACK IN ENGITOPIA
I always wondered why DDI wouldn't work with highways - you'd just need one of the two directions that cross over each other to be a bridge.
13:35 that roundabout looks like my worst nightmare
This episode reminds me of freeway.
I'm gonna rewatch that series now
A useful mod you can get is "Bulldoze it", it destroys all abandoned, burned, etc buildings.
The word for “parallel circle” would be “concentric”
Just when I needed something new to watch, RCE delivers!
One flaw though - none of the junctions allows you to reverse travel direction except for the clover leaf one.
The roundabout can, obviously. You just keep going around.
@@keith6706 oh, yep my bad
Since CS2 was announced, I've been playing this game again after a long absence... and I never really got proficient at it in the first place. I'm really struggling with pacing my city's growth to keep my income positive, even with the help of other CS TH-camrs. I have a night off work on Sunday and I'm planning to start a new city from scratch. I'm not using any mods because I'm still trying to earn Steam achievements.
I dont think matt found the left hand traffic button when you create a new world.
My favorite interchange I drive is the 22-57-5 in Orange County California, quite cool and complex
You can make your on lane markings. Using the mod, Lane Marking tool. Its super nice. Really good video by YUMBL.
If you want traffic to be able to turn around for what ever reason, you could replace the four left turn ramps with one roundabout, where the on ramps are inside and the offramps on the outside, with adding/subtracting a lane at each ramp.
If the traffic stays in lane it‘s like the turbine, but it would allow other movement via the spiral by switching lane
14:37 you choose which side of the road when you choose your map.
So we aren't gonna talk how population dropped more than 10k by the end of the video?? 😂😂
Great video by the way
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Some actual engineering wow didn't expect this
*_Whispers:_* today I learned spaghetti bowls are likely superior to spaghetti junctions
Reminds me of the freeway days
One day this city will be bigger that New York and los Vegas combined
You can’t be parallel to a circle but you can be concentric to another circle. Concentric circles share a center point AND are circles 👍
I recently build a similar stack but sent a pair of the turning flyovers underground
14:35 - What's the opposite of 'driving on the wrong side'? - Driving on the right side. :)
You've been talking to Biffa, haven't you?! :p
18:25. the word you are looking for is "tangent" to the circle.
Idk why but the idea of merging from one those elevated single lane bridges to the more busier double lane bridge kinda triggers my anxiety. I mean at least when merging from a ramp to the main highway at least in real life, you probably would only have really short metal railings to look over or already be flush against the road so no visual obstruction with oncoming traffic, but with those bridges, you'd have to have proper barriers for safety that would obscure quite a bit of your view so you'd have very little reaction time (as no one actually drive as slow as they should on ramps, plus you'd need to have a decent speed as to not interrupt oncoming traffic). Meh, call me a scarycat but I wouldn't want to drive on that lol.
As a professional highway engineer, I love how Matt somehow made clover-leaf interchanges and how they work interesting. Lol.
I don't remember where I heard it, but "split then merge" is the rule I follow. :)
I honestly can't wait to see what RCE is going to do with C:S2...
Same, There’s so much new things coming to C:S2. Parking lots, Emergency battery stations Etc..
"we don't want many curves, and short bridges"
And then there's the highway in Fukuoka, Japan, that is two bridges often stacked on top of each other going over the entire city, bending like crazy
Shutoko ?
Fukuoka toshi kousoku
That's the one I'm aware of, i wouldn't be surprised if other cities have their expressways laid out in a similar way
Real world question for an engineer. What about tunnels. It was said that bridges are expensive...are they more expensive that a bridge? Also, how expensive is their maintenance? If one were to use tunnels instead of bridges for something like that, would a construction cost less money....over it´s livespan I mean?
You know when someone wants to show their wealth, when they don't mind building without pausing the game.
man i never want to see that magic roundabout in real life EVER. most cursed thing
Strongly educational
I would like to see a woven stack. Make it look like a lattice apple pie from above!