I just used a full tube on multiple through-hull's on my project boat. I saw the title of this video and my heart sunk. But now all is right with the world.
ok so I just finished watching this video, I now have 2 10 ounce cartridges in my amazon shopping cart. pressing order now in 3 2 1 ordered. thanks for your help guys, great video btw, really helped me make my decision to buy this product, and even to buy an extra for when ill eventually use it for other projects in the future.
@@CaptainBoomies im sealing the holes in the rim that the spokes connect to the rim through, this product is actually advised by many people for tubeless conversions. th-cam.com/video/JPzoqi_4X7o/w-d-xo.html
Great job on the video. :) I usually get a bit annoyed at videos that don't have solid experiments, experience sharing, or much information when looking up product information videos. But this was pretty awesome and I was laughing multiple times.
How to remove something glued with 5200. Step 1 Heat it up with your heat gun. step 2 While still applying heat work your putty knife or prying tool under the edge and apply continuous pressure, keep working it SLOWLY. takes a bit but it will let go. Marine mechanic 7 years.
I use it to attach tiles to my pools plaster. I have been doing this with loose tiles you find every spring. I started using 5200 13 years ago and never had any of those tiles ever loosen or come off yet.
There’s a product called Debond that actually breaks down 5200 and makes it easier to remove. Works wonders .. it’s not cheap though , $40 for a tiny can of it so use it sparingly
So I noticed you took a dive with the scraper on the first hit (rewind) this would have dug into the gell coat causing a nice ship Wala! The scraper even bowed the opposite way, soon as you split the jell coat the glue did its job as it should..... (Not saying it would not have split) but jumping in like that cant help. I have not used the stuff but looks fantastic for permanent repairs! Thanks!!
Full disclosure: there is some deceptive editing that happened here. You can tell because there is a whole in the boat from a pick axe already. I had already tried a much thinner scraper, but it was too small and I messed up the audio, so please consider this a dramatization. But yes, you are correct, for permanent fixes, like attaching a transom when you build a boat, it's great. For anything that might require removal and maintenance, it's a no go.
So many people are using it wrong. It's only meant to be used as a permanent solution. So why would you use it on something that will in time need to be replaced? That is what 4200 is for. You NEVER put a "permanent adhesive" on something that is threaded lol
I love 5200. It helps with swimsteps and any damage it does having to remove it easily fixed with resin and glass and little gelcoat. I just hate epoxies and won’t allow it in our shop 😂😂
I honestly don't know... kinda looks like it to me. This quarter of a boat came into my possession in an odd way. Someone thought they were going to turn it into some home décor, but the wife said, "Hell No!"
@@CaptainBoomies It looks almost identical to my Catalina 22 except for what I’m guessing is a skeg. Great video. Your channel was recommended to me from your GBU accident review. Thanks for the education on 5200!
Will this adhesive work on rubber....as in tires? As in glueing down Tire letters from Tredwear? Because they have you cleaning each tire at least ten times with degreaser and acetone to get all the oil out of the tire before application and if you don't the letters will come loose, fall off! Thanks!
5200 does not bond to rubber (end of the video), but @3m does make a product called 08008 that can bond rubber to metal, it probably works for rubber to rubber, but I've never needed to do that.
What people don't seem to be getting (I know you keep saying it...but it is not getting through) is that there is almost nothing above the waterline that is truly permanent on a boat. Most things below the waterline aren't permanent, either. That thing that you think is permanent will need to come off in 10 years, and if you use 5200 the person taking it off will swear at you for being an idiot.
Thank you. I know that I need to create a follow-up video that really spells it out, but this was fun to make and that sounds dry and informational... that's just not me. haha
It's not 5200's fault that you two don't know how to remove a fitting. It's easy..... Use a steel guitar string. Wrap the ends of the thinnest string around two one inch diameter dowels for handles. Remove the hardware from the fitting, and pull the guitar string between the gelcoat and the fitting, right thru the 5200. It will part the 5200 like a cheese slicer. No damage. Amazing how people will blame products for poor outcomes, when the real issue is just lack of experience and training.
Yeah, that's the point. I'd rather lose a fitting than a chunk of deck. I see boaters overuse "THE STRONG STUFF!" and they think maintenance is something for the next owner. There are some rare exceptions to the rule, but generally 5200 is too much when 4200 is exactly right and pretty darn strong.
@@CaptainBoomies so what are you going to seal the upper and lower halves of a moulded boat shell? Or a stuffing box? Or a rudder housing? Or anything else that carries a huge point load? Saying that you should NEVER use 5200, just because you don't know how to remove it is stupid. Ranks right up there with the flat earth idea. Cary on with your chisel, chainsaws and torches, they seem to be working for ya.
Respectfully without watching your entire video I can tell you you're absolutely wrong depending on the application I'm going to watch now and I will tell you why you're wrong I am a professional commercial diver I've used many products underwater nothing on this Earth Works like 5200 there is also a J-B Weld that really works There is a very specific reason and I will explain after I watch
Haha, thanks for the view, respectfully. Turns out there is a product that works exactly like 5200; it's 4200 and it will fail before your deck fitting takes a chunk of fiberglass with it. All the love, respectfully! Respecting the shit out of you over her...uuunnggh! Respec on it!
All you've done is prove you don't know how to read, because the sealant stipulates that 5200 is permanent. But you are apparentltly trying to reach a sub-par audience.
If you speak about a deck I would highly recommend woods liquid nails and then nailing 4200 is a step below I'm surprised it still even made which brings me to This statement I love that we can Disagree and even diplomatically With wit insult one another without having to destroy the And I love our ability to Completely disagree tell each other To pound sand you daft Fool...!! Instead of Belittling berating Insulting And hating one another because of something we see differently or our different experiences that's a huge Testament to you!! I initiated you had every right to be mean it shows that you are of solid integrity values ideals morals etc And the big reason to speak to one another In try To understand one another is because sometimes we're not even speaking in the same Context.... Like for instance I am completely speaking as an underwater application which is completely different then top I know nothing and I am certain there are so many more products available for top above water bonding I know there are I'm using one right now at home If you cannot haul your boat in you are forced 2 make a repair under water in the ocean... 5200 black is All there is that will even Bond at all . In fact it's mindboggling as to how amazing it Works in an underwater setting I started with the white one and it was garbage there is AJB Weld underwater patch that is also good but any other 5200 but the black 1 underwater application salt water anyway is a sure fix till you can fix it permanently lol and I am sure 4200 is the way to go on a deck and I'm really appreciate somebody like you
Okay I need to see no more you guys are using wrong application shit if you are on dry there's no reason for 5200 unless your internal and if you use 5200 properly prepped properly send it properly choose the appropriate one white green or black you are addressing shit as somebody who is fixing boats in a garage 5200 of the greatest product ever made for underwater repair your experience is limited to comfortable dry work I have reset impellers with 5200 you're absolutely wrong love to take you underwater and show you I've learned the hard way is only two products for underwater use 5200 used correctly you'll rip the gel coat off first
So, for a permanent fix, as it is advertised. It works perfectly. Alright
worked at a shipyard and sailed off shore for years. 5200 is a gamechanger when used appropriately for the right application
I work as marine tech. Indeed, don't use 5200 on parts you intend to remove/take apart in next 10yrs if under sun, 15-20yrs away from sun.
4000UV is what you use above waterline.
Yup it works I love this stuff I use it for permanent fixes and if you need less permanent use 4200
Unless it's exposed to UV. Then use 4000UV. It's barely removable.
This was a lot of fun. We definitely need to do more of these.
I use 5200 on bronze through-hulls, and will continue to do so.
I just used a full tube on multiple through-hull's on my project boat. I saw the title of this video and my heart sunk. But now all is right with the world.
The person who has to replace the through hulls next time, is going to find you and hunt you down.....
ok so I just finished watching this video, I now have 2 10 ounce cartridges in my amazon shopping cart.
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thanks for your help guys, great video btw, really helped me make my decision to buy this product, and even to buy an extra for when ill eventually use it for other projects in the future.
You building a boat?
@@CaptainBoomies no actually ill be using it to seal the rims of my bike so I can go tubeless.
@@DaBurntToaster wait a sec... Did you watch the very end? 5200 won't bond to rubber. I'm a bike-dumb, so I don't know if that was part of the plan.
@@CaptainBoomies im sealing the holes in the rim that the spokes connect to the rim through, this product is actually advised by many people for tubeless conversions.
th-cam.com/video/JPzoqi_4X7o/w-d-xo.html
Great job on the video. :)
I usually get a bit annoyed at videos that don't have solid experiments, experience sharing, or much information when looking up product information videos. But this was pretty awesome and I was laughing multiple times.
Giggles are the goal! Thanks!
How to remove something glued with 5200. Step 1 Heat it up with your heat gun. step 2 While still applying heat work your putty knife or prying tool under the edge and apply continuous pressure, keep working it SLOWLY. takes a bit but it will let go. Marine mechanic 7 years.
yes! Be careful, I had no idea and I used it like silicone for a couple years on my boat.
I use it to attach tiles to my pools plaster. I have been doing this with loose tiles you find every spring. I started using 5200 13 years ago and never had any of those tiles ever loosen or come off yet.
There’s a product called Debond that actually breaks down 5200 and makes it easier to remove. Works wonders .. it’s not cheap though , $40 for a tiny can of it so use it sparingly
So I noticed you took a dive with the scraper on the first hit (rewind) this would have dug into the gell coat causing a nice ship Wala! The scraper even bowed the opposite way, soon as you split the jell coat the glue did its job as it should..... (Not saying it would not have split) but jumping in like that cant help.
I have not used the stuff but looks fantastic for permanent repairs! Thanks!!
Full disclosure: there is some deceptive editing that happened here. You can tell because there is a whole in the boat from a pick axe already. I had already tried a much thinner scraper, but it was too small and I messed up the audio, so please consider this a dramatization. But yes, you are correct, for permanent fixes, like attaching a transom when you build a boat, it's great. For anything that might require removal and maintenance, it's a no go.
@@CaptainBoomies irregardless wants that stuff's on it ain't coming off, perhaps with a little Heat.
This video has something to do with 5200, but I liked the demo parts...lol 😉
So many people are using it wrong. It's only meant to be used as a permanent solution. So why would you use it on something that will in time need to be replaced? That is what 4200 is for. You NEVER put a "permanent adhesive" on something that is threaded lol
So you did get the point of the video!
@@CaptainBoomies So many people use it like you demonstrated. Its great stuff, when its warranted. Great videos!!!
@@CaptainBoomies I fixed my typo lol I see how I did that
@@beardedyaker9767In case I want to glue the outsole with the midsole of some sneakers, is it preferable to use the 4200 or 5200?
You kidding me that's exactly what im looking for
I love 5200.
It helps with swimsteps and any damage it does having to remove it easily fixed with resin and glass and little gelcoat. I just hate epoxies and won’t allow it in our shop 😂😂
Yeah, that's what I'm saying: skip the damage, and use 4200. If I can avoid gelcoating, I'm happy.
5200 is the Permanent fix. other Silicone do not last under water.
Is that the back end of a Catalina?
I honestly don't know... kinda looks like it to me. This quarter of a boat came into my possession in an odd way. Someone thought they were going to turn it into some home décor, but the wife said, "Hell No!"
@@CaptainBoomies It looks almost identical to my Catalina 22 except for what I’m guessing is a skeg. Great video. Your channel was recommended to me from your GBU accident review. Thanks for the education on 5200!
@@stelliform welcome to my salty little party! 🎉
Will this adhesive work on rubber....as in tires? As in glueing down Tire letters from Tredwear? Because they have you cleaning each tire at least ten times with degreaser and acetone to get all the oil out of the tire before application and if you don't the letters will come loose, fall off! Thanks!
5200 does not bond to rubber (end of the video), but @3m does make a product called 08008 that can bond rubber to metal, it probably works for rubber to rubber, but I've never needed to do that.
@@CaptainBoomies 5200 bonds to neoprene rubber really well, I use it for wetsuit repair
Oh man! We could have used this video before using 5200 on our boat (And hands)! The stuff works...a little too good!
DIRTFOOT!!!!!! LIKE A RHINESTONE RING! 😁
Scotty's on the Sax.
I freaking love their music!!
Want more
Thanks! Just seeing this. Got one more coming. Anything you want us to try out?
What people don't seem to be getting (I know you keep saying it...but it is not getting through) is that there is almost nothing above the waterline that is truly permanent on a boat. Most things below the waterline aren't permanent, either. That thing that you think is permanent will need to come off in 10 years, and if you use 5200 the person taking it off will swear at you for being an idiot.
Thank you. I know that I need to create a follow-up video that really spells it out, but this was fun to make and that sounds dry and informational... that's just not me. haha
U mean why u should use it
You'd think the word:Permanent would give it away but no.... people have to try and be pointlessly critical about it.
Learn about mold release agents
Use DeBond…score outline once spray twice and lift…..sell the pick axe to the pawn shop
Interesting... don't use it if??? If you don't want a really good job? Don't use it if you want something reliable?
It's not 5200's fault that you two don't know how to remove a fitting. It's easy.....
Use a steel guitar string. Wrap the ends of the thinnest string around two one inch diameter dowels for handles. Remove the hardware from the fitting, and pull the guitar string between the gelcoat and the fitting, right thru the 5200. It will part the 5200 like a cheese slicer.
No damage. Amazing how people will blame products for poor outcomes, when the real issue is just lack of experience and training.
...or you could use 3m 4200 and skip the music store.
@@CaptainBoomies 4200 is not as strong.
Yeah, that's the point. I'd rather lose a fitting than a chunk of deck. I see boaters overuse "THE STRONG STUFF!" and they think maintenance is something for the next owner. There are some rare exceptions to the rule, but generally 5200 is too much when 4200 is exactly right and pretty darn strong.
@@CaptainBoomies so what are you going to seal the upper and lower halves of a moulded boat shell? Or a stuffing box? Or a rudder housing? Or anything else that carries a huge point load?
Saying that you should NEVER use 5200, just because you don't know how to remove it is stupid. Ranks right up there with the flat earth idea. Cary on with your chisel, chainsaws and torches, they seem to be working for ya.
You sound like one of the few people I'd trust to use 5200 right. You nailed my "few exceptions." Do you build boats?
Respectfully without watching your entire video I can tell you you're absolutely wrong depending on the application I'm going to watch now and I will tell you why you're wrong I am a professional commercial diver I've used many products underwater nothing on this Earth Works like 5200 there is also a J-B Weld that really works
There is a very specific reason and I will explain after I watch
Haha, thanks for the view, respectfully. Turns out there is a product that works exactly like 5200; it's 4200 and it will fail before your deck fitting takes a chunk of fiberglass with it. All the love, respectfully! Respecting the shit out of you over her...uuunnggh! Respec on it!
All you've done is prove you don't know how to read, because the sealant stipulates that 5200 is permanent. But you are apparentltly trying to reach a sub-par audience.
As long as they're not submariners... those guys are weird.
All it takes is 200° heat gun why all the dramatic recreation
Lol....it's probably stronger than the fixture.... very funny
5200 is demon semen. GFYM and de-laminate that boat! Use only below waterline. Otherwise 4k.
If you speak about a deck I would highly recommend woods liquid nails and then nailing
4200 is a step below I'm surprised it still even made which brings me to
This statement
I love that we can Disagree and even diplomatically With wit insult one another without having to destroy the
And I love our ability to Completely disagree tell each other To pound sand you daft Fool...!!
Instead of Belittling berating Insulting And hating one another because of something we see differently or our different experiences that's a huge Testament to you!!
I initiated you had every right to be mean it shows that you are of solid integrity values ideals morals etc
And the big reason to speak to one another In try To understand one another is because sometimes we're not even speaking in the same Context....
Like for instance I am completely speaking as an underwater application which is completely different then top
I know nothing and I am certain there are so many more products available for top above water bonding I know there are I'm using one right now at home
If you cannot haul your boat in you are forced 2 make a repair under water in the ocean... 5200 black is All there is that will even Bond at all . In fact it's mindboggling as to how amazing it Works in an underwater setting I started with the white one and it was garbage there is AJB Weld underwater patch that is also good but any other 5200 but the black 1 underwater application salt water anyway is a sure fix till you can fix it permanently lol and I am sure 4200 is the way to go on a deck and I'm really appreciate somebody like you
Okay I need to see no more you guys are using wrong application shit if you are on dry there's no reason for 5200 unless your internal and if you use 5200 properly prepped properly send it properly choose the appropriate one white green or black you are addressing shit as somebody who is fixing boats in a garage 5200 of the greatest product ever made for underwater repair your experience is limited to comfortable dry work I have reset impellers with 5200 you're absolutely wrong love to take you underwater and show you I've learned the hard way is only two products for underwater use 5200 used correctly you'll rip the gel coat off first
Dumbest video of the day award