Goin great! Almost 6 years in now. Worked at Chase and Amex for a bit but ended up going back to a startup. There’s so much red tape to do anything at corporations so startups are a lot more fun
Thanks for the video. I’m still deciding whether to do the Full Stack or the Front End Tech Degree. I am a complete beginner looking at my options. I haven’t made any projects or made a start to learning HTML and CSS yet.
So if you haven't even tried coding yet,I'd probably go try out freeCodeCamp and see if you even like it before throwing any money into your education. If you know you like it then I'd start with the front end tech degree. Full stack's going to focus more on javascript and one of the biggest mistakes entry level devs make is just glossing over html and css and going straight to javascript. Then when they go to an interview and get asked to build something simple with html and css, they struggle to do it.
Absolutely loved this video. It had all the important content, and clear instructions on what to do and is a very informative and useful video especially coming from someone who got a job off of it. Thank you for this video.
I read in one of your comments "I didn't finish before I got a job but you do get a certificate to show". It's very nice to see how fast you got a job. My question is: what was your background? Do you study for example Computer Science in parallel?
I do have a Bachelor of Science, but it's in Marketing. I don't think it's had any effect on me getting a job (Even non-tech jobs). No one I interviewed with ever said anything about it. So I don't have any formal education with tech. Just what I've learned online and those times I tried to mod/hack Minecraft in high-school lol
For sure. I basically did. There's a lot of factors that go into it though. Do you live in a big city with a lot of opportunities? Do you go to meetups and learn from other people's mistakes? Are you applying to 10-25 jobs daily? Do you have a solid portfolio and resume?
i've just submitted my second project for the fewd techdegree. curious as to how you studied when you were going through the program. i noticed on the second project there was quite a bit of stuff i had to go back and review and check other sites to research to complete the project even though i had watched the treehouse videos twice through and took notes. lots of info didn't stick.
I mean it's just like learning anything else. Repetition's going to be a big thing. I had that problem with the projects until I started taking notes in a notebook and started to review them while I worked on the projects. Also going through freecodecamp, and the odin project (both free resources) at the same time helped a little too. Gets you more repetition and its good to get different perspectives on the topics. You're not gonna be expected to memorize literally everything though. I mean you'll always have google when you get a tech job (If that's what you're going for).
Thanks for information.. planning to take thar frontend developer tech degree. I am carrer changing working as a cook trying to get in into tech job.🙏🙏🙏
I just started this about a month ago, and everything is going well so far. When completed do you get an actual certificate or anything that you could post to a resume?
I imagine it still contains a lot of courses from front end and full stack. I'd still probably start off with the front end one, do that, then do the full stack JS one, then the Web Dev one. Now a lot of the videos in the courses will overlap and the important part IS NOT the certificate they give you after completing it. I actually never got certificates from either of them. The important part IS THE PROJECTS. So once you go through the Front End Techdegree, and start the JS one, maybe 40-50% of the videos required for the course are the same. The ones that are the same, put on 2x speed and skim through again because you'll have forgotten some of it, then build the project, and keep going. They limit you to one project submission every week/2 weeks/month, but again the project submission portion's only important if you want to get the cert (Which you don't, you want the projects). The projects are the proof you show potential employeers that says "I know what i'm doing. You can hire me". Hope that makes since. It's in text so I skipped a lot of my thoughts lol
@@self-taughtdev Thanks. I appreciate your advice. I went through the units they have listed, and I found 3 units/projects in the Front End course that aren't in the Web Dev course: Web dashboard, Searchable photo gallery, and web style guide. All the JS units are the same. I think I will start with the Front End. Thanks again!
Hey Garrett, am I able to apply for a job after completing the front end web developer techdegree ? ….Then whilst applying, start the fullstack JS techdegree course.
I'd start applying as soon as you have a portfolio and 4 project. Your chances of getting a job with that are still super low, but worth it to start trying and maybe get some interview experience.
All your videos make me feel better about becoming a self taught dev! I’m currently working through Fullstack JavaScript techdegree - I’m on project 4 which is the OOP game. Did you use anything other than the resources teamtree house provided? I’m kind of stuck in the middle of the project currently
I did! I'd get stuck on projects a lot and when I did I'd switch to the odin project or freecode camp and start working through those. I'd eventually find something that would make it click and I could keep moving forward on TTH projects. Also make sure you use their forms and slack channel (If they've still got that).
I think so. It wouldn't be at a big tech company you can definitely got a job at a start up doing front end work. React's definitely something you'll want to/have to learn eventually though. Probably better to do it sooner rather than later.
I have been coding for a good 4 months now. - During these 4 months I have been taking a web design class which covered basic css and html (the prof said I was ahead of others and provided me material to learn js as well). - I finished a js course on Udemy and complete the projects offered with it. - Got the first certification that they offer on freecodecamp ( i believe it's on responsive design). So my question is this. I've been preparing myself to go to a coding boot camp (coding dojo in LA) where they offer internships at the end of the course. Do you think I would still be able to get a job without having to go to the boot camp? I'm unsure how I will stack up to other developers who went to one. If not, would going through TTH still be beneficial to me to get a job?
Firstly congratulations- Idk if he ever got back to you. But this would’ve been a dope answer to know. I pray your progress exceeded your expectations.
Those cats are cracking me up. Just started using treehouse basic course, giving it another week or two then I will be doing the front end tech degree. May do the fullstack to since it seems like a good idea. I currently do Instacart + Doordash for work so with a completely open schedule I'm realizing now is the time in my life to get this done. I don't wan't to rely on these delivery companies forever and def don't want to go back to a factory.
Hey, first off fantastic video, thanks for all the info. My question was I completed an entire html and css course with Jonas on Udemy but have only built 2 projects outside the course with a lot of help of looking through the course code. Would you still consider me to start with Front-end as I wasn't that confident then move to full-stack? Also you said in the last minute that you can start applying after the third project? Was that front end or full stack? Thank you for your time and appreciate all the help!!
I’m curious if you would recommend the web dev team treehouse techdegree over the front end? I’m interested in front end but I see the web dev techdegree has way more languages you can learn like React included.
If you can afford it I'd to both. Start with Front End because you'll get a solid foundation with HTML, CSS, and vanilla JS. Then Web Dev because it'll dive a lot deeper into JS and some of the libraries/frameworks with it
You never feel ready. But you have to start applying and try anyway. Even when you get a job you'll freak out and start thinking "Crap, what if I'm not where they think I am and I get fired?!". You've just got to have faith in yourself and your ability to adapt and learn what you need to.
Thanks for the video! I looked over the current curriculum and for both the front end and full-stack java, and it appears to be the same as the curriculum mentioned in this video, including the projects. Do you think either curriculum is still relevant/sufficient to help land a developer job today?
They're constantly putting out new stuff and updating courses so it'll definitely put you in a good position to. Also don't mix up Java and JavaScript. It's a huge indicator that you don't know much about coding yet.
@@self-taughtdev thanks for your reply. I thought i could say java as short for java script, thanks for the tip! I’m looking into starting the front end development tech degree...I hope it goes well.
I got a job as a front end developer. I would have had to study a lot longer before I'd be ready for a full stack job, but they definitely teach you everything you'd need to know to be full stack if you do the 'Front End tech Degree' and "Full Stack JS Techdegeree'.
thanks man, just a question with this, I'm debating on starting this in late October/early November. Ultimately, I want to do full stack work, I'm a data scientist by trade, so I'm pretty familiar with python syntax wise for backed stuff. I don't want to necessarily leave the DS world unless something more lucrative came up, I'm mainly looking at this for freelance work I can do on the side, or if something happened, I would have an additional skill set I could have to look for jobs. I plan on taking your advice and starting on front end, then moving to full stack, my question is just that, is the billing kind of like a 200 a month flat, and you have access to all of it? For the tech degree's. Or do you have to pay additional fees or something along those lines? Cheers.
Probably what you'd think. Front end web developer jobs. If you want to be a React/Angular/Vue/other kind of dev, you'll need more education than just the Front End Techdegree...Like the full stack JS Tech Degree lol
Yea for sure. I credit TTH with most of the reason I got my job. They've got a clear path laid out for you to follow. I talk a little more about it here th-cam.com/video/PesqzWG0BVs/w-d-xo.html
@@self-taughtdev think he mean't the web dev starting salary isn't worth it for 30k, better off driving a truck lol not my opinion tho, but it depends what your into i guess.
Glad to see a video of someone that actually got a job from it.
For sure!
The Under Dog also got a job with the team treehouse tech degree
th-cam.com/video/-1PxvgP940g/w-d-xo.html
Thanks so much for this. Great content. Been doing the FEWD tech degree for a few weeks and this helps me feel good about that decision
Nice Seth! Let me know if you need any help with it and good luck!
Thanks for the info. This was super helpful!
Awesome! Good to hear
Nice, video. How's your career going on? Thanks for the info.
Goin great! Almost 6 years in now. Worked at Chase and Amex for a bit but ended up going back to a startup. There’s so much red tape to do anything at corporations so startups are a lot more fun
I’m on unit 8 front end tech degree JavaScript API. Thanks for sharing about your experience.
Nice! Good luck on the last 2 projects!
Did you complete the program? What are you thoughts about it afterwards?
Thanks for the video. I’m still deciding whether to do the Full Stack or the Front End Tech Degree. I am a complete beginner looking at my options. I haven’t made any projects or made a start to learning HTML and CSS yet.
So if you haven't even tried coding yet,I'd probably go try out freeCodeCamp and see if you even like it before throwing any money into your education. If you know you like it then I'd start with the front end tech degree. Full stack's going to focus more on javascript and one of the biggest mistakes entry level devs make is just glossing over html and css and going straight to javascript. Then when they go to an interview and get asked to build something simple with html and css, they struggle to do it.
Thank you for the honest information.
No problem!
Great Video Bro. This was loads of help!
Glad it helped! : )
Thanks for the info buddy. Very useful :D
Glad it helps!
Absolutely loved this video. It had all the important content, and clear instructions on what to do and is a very informative and useful video especially coming from someone who got a job off of it. Thank you for this video.
Glad it helped!
Awesome to hear you were able to learn then get a job months later
Yea! Took about 8 months but I would have been willing to keep studying for the next 1-2 years if it took that long xD
Best video yet
Thanks
Thank you for sharing.
Glad it helped!
I read in one of your comments "I didn't finish before I got a job but you do get a certificate to show". It's very nice to see how fast you got a job. My question is: what was your background? Do you study for example Computer Science in parallel?
I do have a Bachelor of Science, but it's in Marketing. I don't think it's had any effect on me getting a job (Even non-tech jobs). No one I interviewed with ever said anything about it.
So I don't have any formal education with tech. Just what I've learned online and those times I tried to mod/hack Minecraft in high-school lol
@@self-taughtdev Thank you for your comment and thanks for your content!
Thanks for the video mate. Can't wait to get started!
Nice! It’s gonna be tough but just don’t quit and keep grinding and it’ll eventually start to click 🙌
Can a person with no experience in coding whatsoever realistically become a coder/developer within 6-9 months and be job ready?
For sure. I basically did. There's a lot of factors that go into it though. Do you live in a big city with a lot of opportunities? Do you go to meetups and learn from other people's mistakes? Are you applying to 10-25 jobs daily? Do you have a solid portfolio and resume?
great vid mate
Thanks Jason!
i've just submitted my second project for the fewd techdegree. curious as to how you studied when you were going through the program. i noticed on the second project there was quite a bit of stuff i had to go back and review and check other sites to research to complete the project even though i had watched the treehouse videos twice through and took notes. lots of info didn't stick.
I mean it's just like learning anything else. Repetition's going to be a big thing. I had that problem with the projects until I started taking notes in a notebook and started to review them while I worked on the projects.
Also going through freecodecamp, and the odin project (both free resources) at the same time helped a little too. Gets you more repetition and its good to get different perspectives on the topics.
You're not gonna be expected to memorize literally everything though. I mean you'll always have google when you get a tech job (If that's what you're going for).
Thanks for information.. planning to take thar frontend developer tech degree. I am carrer changing working as a cook trying to get in into tech job.🙏🙏🙏
Nice! Let me know how it goes for you!
I just started this about a month ago, and everything is going well so far. When completed do you get an actual certificate or anything that you could post to a resume?
I didn't finish before I got a job but you do get a certificate to show
Hi! Checking in. How did it go Spenny?
Thank you for this
of course!
Hi, What about the third option they have called Web Development? Is that a combination of these two? I'm not sure which one to pick.
I imagine it still contains a lot of courses from front end and full stack. I'd still probably start off with the front end one, do that, then do the full stack JS one, then the Web Dev one.
Now a lot of the videos in the courses will overlap and the important part IS NOT the certificate they give you after completing it. I actually never got certificates from either of them. The important part IS THE PROJECTS. So once you go through the Front End Techdegree, and start the JS one, maybe 40-50% of the videos required for the course are the same. The ones that are the same, put on 2x speed and skim through again because you'll have forgotten some of it, then build the project, and keep going. They limit you to one project submission every week/2 weeks/month, but again the project submission portion's only important if you want to get the cert (Which you don't, you want the projects). The projects are the proof you show potential employeers that says "I know what i'm doing. You can hire me".
Hope that makes since. It's in text so I skipped a lot of my thoughts lol
@@self-taughtdev Thanks. I appreciate your advice. I went through the units they have listed, and I found 3 units/projects in the Front End course that aren't in the Web Dev course: Web dashboard, Searchable photo gallery, and web style guide. All the JS units are the same. I think I will start with the Front End. Thanks again!
Hey Garrett, am I able to apply for a job after completing the front end web developer techdegree ? ….Then whilst applying, start the fullstack JS techdegree course.
I'd start applying as soon as you have a portfolio and 4 project. Your chances of getting a job with that are still super low, but worth it to start trying and maybe get some interview experience.
All your videos make me feel better about becoming a self taught dev! I’m currently working through Fullstack JavaScript techdegree - I’m on project 4 which is the OOP game. Did you use anything other than the resources teamtree house provided? I’m kind of stuck in the middle of the project currently
I did! I'd get stuck on projects a lot and when I did I'd switch to the odin project or freecode camp and start working through those. I'd eventually find something that would make it click and I could keep moving forward on TTH projects. Also make sure you use their forms and slack channel (If they've still got that).
do you think i could still get a job now with the way the fewd is constructed now with like no react if i finished it by itslef
I think so. It wouldn't be at a big tech company you can definitely got a job at a start up doing front end work. React's definitely something you'll want to/have to learn eventually though. Probably better to do it sooner rather than later.
@@self-taughtdev for sure thanks man !
What do you think about Udacity Front End or Full Stack??
Have you started?
I have been coding for a good 4 months now.
- During these 4 months I have been taking a web design class which covered basic css and html (the prof said I was ahead of others and provided me material to learn js as well).
- I finished a js course on Udemy and complete the projects offered with it.
- Got the first certification that they offer on freecodecamp ( i believe it's on responsive design).
So my question is this.
I've been preparing myself to go to a coding boot camp (coding dojo in LA) where they offer internships at the end of the course. Do you think I would still be able to get a job without having to go to the boot camp? I'm unsure how I will stack up to other developers who went to one.
If not, would going through TTH still be beneficial to me to get a job?
Firstly congratulations- Idk if he ever got back to you. But this would’ve been a dope answer to know. I pray your progress exceeded your expectations.
Those cats are cracking me up. Just started using treehouse basic course, giving it another week or two then I will be doing the front end tech degree. May do the fullstack to since it seems like a good idea. I currently do Instacart + Doordash for work so with a completely open schedule I'm realizing now is the time in my life to get this done. I don't wan't to rely on these delivery companies forever and def don't want to go back to a factory.
Yea if you just buckle up and grind you could be making 6 figures in 3-5 years. Maybe sooner
Hey, first off fantastic video, thanks for all the info. My question was I completed an entire html and css course with Jonas on Udemy but have only built 2 projects outside the course with a lot of help of looking through the course code. Would you still consider me to start with Front-end as I wasn't that confident then move to full-stack? Also you said in the last minute that you can start applying after the third project? Was that front end or full stack? Thank you for your time and appreciate all the help!!
I’m curious if you would recommend the web dev team treehouse techdegree over the front end? I’m interested in front end but I see the web dev techdegree has way more languages you can learn like React included.
If you can afford it I'd to both. Start with Front End because you'll get a solid foundation with HTML, CSS, and vanilla JS. Then Web Dev because it'll dive a lot deeper into JS and some of the libraries/frameworks with it
How did you get the Job? Is it through techdegree networks or outside? How long did you find the job after you completed the techdegree?
Outside, just applying through job sites.
Hi, when did you felt you were ready to apply for a job and was it a startup or full time regular company that hired you?
You never feel ready. But you have to start applying and try anyway. Even when you get a job you'll freak out and start thinking "Crap, what if I'm not where they think I am and I get fired?!". You've just got to have faith in yourself and your ability to adapt and learn what you need to.
@@self-taughtdev Appreciate that advice.
Thanks for the video! I looked over the current curriculum and for both the front end and full-stack java, and it appears to be the same as the curriculum mentioned in this video, including the projects. Do you think either curriculum is still relevant/sufficient to help land a developer job today?
They're constantly putting out new stuff and updating courses so it'll definitely put you in a good position to.
Also don't mix up Java and JavaScript. It's a huge indicator that you don't know much about coding yet.
@@self-taughtdev thanks for your reply. I thought i could say java as short for java script, thanks for the tip! I’m looking into starting the front end development tech degree...I hope it goes well.
With a tech degree u was able to get a full stack developer job ?
I got a job as a front end developer. I would have had to study a lot longer before I'd be ready for a full stack job, but they definitely teach you everything you'd need to know to be full stack if you do the 'Front End tech Degree' and "Full Stack JS Techdegeree'.
You have to take and pass the exam to get the certificate? It’s 200 a month. If you fail the exam do you have to keep paying?
The certification's not what matters. I didn't get either. What matters is the projects you build.
thanks man, just a question with this, I'm debating on starting this in late October/early November. Ultimately, I want to do full stack work, I'm a data scientist by trade, so I'm pretty familiar with python syntax wise for backed stuff. I don't want to necessarily leave the DS world unless something more lucrative came up, I'm mainly looking at this for freelance work I can do on the side, or if something happened, I would have an additional skill set I could have to look for jobs. I plan on taking your advice and starting on front end, then moving to full stack, my question is just that, is the billing kind of like a 200 a month flat, and you have access to all of it? For the tech degree's. Or do you have to pay additional fees or something along those lines? Cheers.
It's just the flat $200. They do have some lower price points, you just don't get the projects.
Did you study full or part time for the 7 months you used treehouse?
I studied/coded about 25-30 hours a week. I was working full time at a call center while I did though.
Whats the exam like??
I didn't take it. You have to submit and pass all the projects before you can take it and I got a job before I did.
why dont u put an affiliate link of teamtreehouse? i would have bought the course through u
Hey as long as you liked the video and sub'd that's enough for me haha
Hey what PC or laptop did you use for coding?
I've got an old Toshiba. Need to upgrade. My workstations's custom tho. intel i-7 processor, nvdia 2070, 16gb ram.
Ive been debating to join techdegree, but was wondering if they offer back end ? Thanks in advance
They've got a full-Stack js techdegree where they go into it a little bit. Check out the syllabus for more info
@@self-taughtdev thank you!!!
Cool im thinking about doing PHP treehouse degree
Nice! Haven't done that one yet. Let me know how it is.
What kind of jobs can you land getting the front end tech degree
Probably what you'd think. Front end web developer jobs. If you want to be a React/Angular/Vue/other kind of dev, you'll need more education than just the Front End Techdegree...Like the full stack JS Tech Degree lol
are there limit numbers of project that can be reviewed ?
I mean once you pass you can't resubmit that project, but that's it.
I want to like the video but it’s at 420 likes and I can’t be the one to mess that up
Respectable
Can you get a job in coding from team treehouse tech degree?
I second this question
Yea for sure. I credit TTH with most of the reason I got my job. They've got a clear path laid out for you to follow. I talk a little more about it here th-cam.com/video/PesqzWG0BVs/w-d-xo.html
$30k? I better go drive a truck for $50k
Not sure what you mean?
@@self-taughtdev think he mean't the web dev starting salary isn't worth it for 30k, better off driving a truck lol not my opinion tho, but it depends what your into i guess.