From the Graven-school & Graven-mass talisman, it said "A talisman depicting a (the first) school of graven mages, the nightmare of the academy. The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry." So I think that's her punishment for practice primeval sorcery. Note that Lusat and Azur is turn into stone themselves, according to their armor set.
So if you helped Seluvis, it seems that she failed to overthrown the Carians since you know, Rennala can't be killed at all due to the rebirth thing she has and it seems it was Rennala herself cursed Seluvis to turn into the rock thing
I don't even think its that. I think its more like she became so powerful she turned into one of those wizard rocks. Kinda like how in bloodborne getting more insight makes you transform.
From the Graven-school & Graven-mass talisman, it said "A talisman depicting a (the first) school of graven mages, the nightmare of the academy. The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry."
very important for everyone who wants to go full MAGE, if you side at the end with Jerren, neither Azur nor Luset's armor will drop. I am playing Mage build and you need the extra dmg from Azur set for max. power... but sadly i was to greedy and wanted the +25 stone Q.Q
I missed like 95% of the quests you did videos on... Really appreciate all the work you put into it and will definately binge watch your content a couple of times before NG+ or my second playthrough. Thx again for those guides!
It’s hilarious how often people struggle to spell «definitely» like dude it’s literally spelled as it is pronounced. It boggles the mind how people fail such simple shit
@@私はクソな中国人です Saying it's spelled as it's pronounced doesn't really help when you think of accents. You may pronounce it as definitely but I pronounce it as definately. Not a thing I do on purpose or something I can really change. It's just my accent makes it sound like that. Not saying we should keep spelling it wrong of course but it probably isn't his fault. An example I find kinda funny is that where most people say boot, I say bOOt. I put a lot of emphasis on the double o and I genuinely can't change that.
So, a bit of confusion here between the 7th (putting the soul into the new body) and the 8-9th (get Jarren to appear inside of the cell). Apparently after the update, you have to beat Radahn first, exhaust his dialogues, get him to appear in the cell and kill Sellen, THEN you can put the soul inside of her new body. If you reach Ranni's rise without having Jarren already killed her old body, you won't be able to interact with the new one. Just want to point that out.
So if i didn't talk with him and i just came back just for the Sellen quest and can't find him? I put the glintstone in the new body, talked with her and then went to find Jarren and he's not there in the castle, he's not at her old body either
Thank you so much for not talking during these walkthroughs. I missed a bunch of quests and I appreciate your documentation! The footage really speaks for itself imo, and it drives me crazy when some dude is just narrating the obvious while skipping past the meat of the story!
THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing us her full Lines. I make the full quest but only now after it - with the help of these Lines again i fully get all pieces together to fully understand the Result.
So the later parts of this story event was done slightly off, after you find azur and lustat, talk with sellen then go kill radahn. Go back to sellen and she will tell you to visit her body do so then talk with jerren the go back to her body and meet with jerren with her old body dead you can use the glintstone you got at the empty vessel at seluvis dungeon and from there the academy. Feel free to pick whatever side.
God bless you man for those videos. Straight to the point, all dialogue left in tact, and even with the item descriptions. It allows me to experience those quests without spending hours playing. All the best to you from Poland.
Question: There's recently a channel suggesting you could kill Jerren at the dungeon when he visited the recent dead Sellen Body which her Glinstone you just took. Could you actually SAVE Sellen to not turn in to a Big Ball?
I only really came here to see her dialogue because I accidentally pressed a button so I missed something. I appreciate that you showed the lines! Take a sub and a like :)
To be honest, i think it's not the end with a Jerren. In the end of the quest by Sellen you can get the new armor sets droped by azur mage and body from the hidden wall. And we still missing his set. So i think we need now to find him again.
Story wise, sellen was the villain when u think about it but it’s still hard to side against her. She knew of the side effect of primeval magic based on azurs and fusat. I guess she overestimated her ability Edit: she was also a ruthless witch too as stated by jerren
I mean, Ranni transforms sorcerers into those stone heads to fuel herself, and has killed the entire Raya Lucaria leadership for their perceived disloyalty. Sellen was only one who escaped wrath of Carian royal family for a time. But eventually even her would be transformed into ball because she tried to restore Academy's independence.
Amazing he played the game for you? Guides like this ruin games, nice effort but people like you dont even try to solve secrets in their own, they look it up. Why think, when you can google it.
@@vaderan7037 And then we have people like you, that sit on their high-horse of purity, talking in an objective manner as if you are the omnipotent judge of what makes and ruins someone's experience. I'm saying this as someone that figured out all storyline elements themselves from Demon Souls to Sekiro (except the divine wind on the fat dude) without any guidance: This game in scale is MASSIVE, the storylines intertwine more than ever, there are 6 or 7 endings, there are completely miss-able areas, you can do things too soon or miss out on interactions just via exploring naturally, and lock yourself out of some key options for a build you wanted to have fun with. No idea what you are doing on a video like this if you feel it ruins games so much, or why you have such an opinion despite the variables this title has over the others, but why think before you speak?
Killing Jerren is the best Ending. He Fulfills his Duty by Protecting Queen Renalla, dies in Honourable Combat like Radahn. And best of all his Sworn enemy Sellen Gets metamorphisized into that....thing, Ending her Reign of Terror and any possible threat to the Queen.
I killed Jerren at the end for his armor. I sure hope I didn't mess anything up. But if he does return in the future(DLC), I pray this'll be ignored and be as if I never killed him.
@@fishbones3177 if its someone that dies because of a questline and it being scripted, they won't come back. The revive is mainly meant for if they die unnaturally (out of script)
Technically you can get all the rewards all you have to do is kill him after you helped kill the Sorceress, just wait until he gives you the smithing Stone
Hahahahahahahahaha yes!!!!!!! Awesome. I got his shit, her hat and his dragon stone. I'll get the mage stuff next play through. Lmao. Get wrecked. He's like "you are.. a menace! Beware... Iji!"
The Eccentric set is peak Elden Bling. If you want to build a Landsknecht, wear his chest, pants, the soldier's cap (a kettle helm) and your choice of gauntlets. Pike and Flamberge to complete.
Nah, you get better and unique gear from Sellen, and you can get dragon smithing stones enough by just proceeding with the game. You only get Lusat and Azur armor by siding with Sellen.
I like both NPCs, but... oh, sadness, oh, sadness... I want Jerren's set, but I don't want to kill him. Is there another way??? Oh, maybe, only in a New Game... RIP Sellen, anyway...
I've heard that Ranni actually gets upset at you if you complete the Sellen questline (siding with Sellen) too early in Ranni's questline - is there any extra text for that, or does she just refuse to talk to you? Would be interesting to see a video of the crossover if Ranni says anything to you about it.
So it’s better to help Sellen when looking at the loot? Is there a way to get Jerren (Gael’s) armor while also helping him… and not killing him at the end.
So I talked to jerren before even finding comet azur so I have all the step down except jerren is not on the chair anymore and he is not in the chamber either… I really don’t know where he went
No matter what you choose Sellen never will get good ending. I feel like it makes no sense to side agaist her because most of the quest tends to heavy towards her because of student-teacher relationship. But Sellen did the most unforgivable thing, that is when she killed Iji after she gets the new body. And i like Iji. This game man.
@@SirTake Iji only get burned if you progress through Sellen quest. I did Ranni questline first before doing Sellen. Even after you killed Blaid and told Iji about Blaid death, he was still there doing his stuff. After i progress through Sellen questline later only you will found his burned body. Sje did have a hand on Iji death. She is the most dangerous apostate mage for a reason
I helped Sellen but after the fight, the witch that was on the center of the room disappeared. So I can't respec my points, there's a solution for that?
@@yasinahmed6157 The primal glintstone from Sellen gets put into a puppet body that looks like her, yet there's other NPC's that can be turned into puppets for use. It'd be interesting to see if some of the others can be given the Primal Glintstone instead (such as Nepheli).
Honestly it’s pretty lame how all npcs just fuckin die at the end without fail unless they serve an important game function like the spirit turner or the smith. Like at the end the game is so dead it’s like wtf am I even lord for?
@@hhjhj393 Yeah but where's the fun in knowing you going to get a horrendously depressing ending? I'd actually like to play elden ring but from everything I've heard about it, it makes bloodborne seem cheery and I dont want to spend hours playing a game just to be even more depressed than I already am by the time its finished.
Not _all_ NPCs have a bad ending. (In contrast, I'd argue Elden RIng to probably be the most optimistic FromSoft game overall, despite having such widespread body horror.) Some examples... _(Spoilers ahead)_ - If you don't betray Nepheli to Seluvis, and complete Kenneth Haight and Gostoc's side quests, they all move into Stormveil Castle together, with Nepheli being a rightful heir to the lands by way of relation to Godfrey and all. And, she'll show up for the final battle against her... father? Grandfather? Hoarah Loux, himself, towards the end, if you summon her- same spot you summon Melina for the Morgott fight prior. - Jar-Bairn, though obviously shaken up by Diallos dying to protect him, being a sole survivor of the perfumer attack on Jarburg, and learning that Alexander died for good this time, is still hopeful. All of your examples give him the resolve to grow stronger, and at that point it's pretty much the end of the game, whereupon you as Elden Lord are presumably about to establish a world where that's much more possible. - Jerren, if you side with him here, just thanks you for putting a war criminal away at the college he used to go to, casually hands out a material to craft a god-slaying weapon with, and dips. No tragedy or anything. - Ranni's pretty content to chill even if you don't do her ending and speed the process of her whole Age of the Stars thing along. Even if Blaidd and Iji dying to cover her escape from the Black Knives probably upsets her, she got what she wanted, and almost certainly knows that they were always aware that their lives were on the line. If you _do,_ you have a legit romance _and_ the Age of the Stars shows up right now, and you go beat the shit out of star-borne eldritch beings if not also other Outer Gods together in space with the power of the Elden Ring, which, you know, cool as shit. And besides, there's a big contrast between Dark Souls and this story between _how_ a lot of these characters die. In Dark Souls, it's very often in desperation, with the withered remnants of their strength being scavenged after the fact by your undead bystander, usually powerless to step in. In Elden Ring, a lot of the characters that die do so by pursuing their own dreams successfully, and in so doing, deliberately pass their strength on to you, like this is an anime or some shit. In ER's culture, after all, the many combining to become stronger than the sum of their parts is considered something of a sacred practice (excepting Godrick's grotesque corruption of grafting which just involves bullying people and stealing their limbs)- see, grafting originating with Godfrey and Serosh, the Erdtree being itself literally grafted _onto_ the existing Great Tree, the fact that repairing the Elden Ring just involves adding more people's runes to fill in the missing cracks in most endings, the fact that the "Valiant Gargoyles" are considered such for being made up of multiple patched-together champions reinforced with stone like armor... etc.
So I've found Lusat in the hidden cave but after I came back to Sellen to tell her, she didn't give me additional dialogue to go meet her in Witchbane ruins. I went there regardless and I was unable to speak to the imprisoned Sellen. I followed the guide but can't seem to progress the quest line. Did I miss something or do I need to kill Radahn first? Or something along the lines?
It could be the sorcery that she practices, glenstone sorcery you can find her mentor turning who is turning in to Crystal because he used glenstone sorcery.
Basically she wants overthrow Rennala problem is that Rennala is immortal, she is not powerful enough to take her on and for her crimes she is then morphed into that ball to be in agonizing pain for the rest of her existance, either that or by diving too deep into Glenstone Sorcery she is painfully morphed into that ball no matter what path you choose she loses. For my personal decision due to the heinous crimes she committed and also not wsnting to see her in agonizing pain for the rest of her life I opted to kill her as depressing as that is I find it the lesser of two evils
@@lancethedecayedguardian2719 I think the circumstances is similar to beasthood in BB, you dives too deep into something, and there is a reason why primal glindstone sorcery is forbidden in one of certain item description.
Jerren never show himself for me. But sellen is alive, I got her new body. I hope I can finish the quest. EDIT : I completed the quest and now I have the azure glintstone set, I love it
@@v_3dg663 I didn't find him, but I saw the 2 summoning signs for him and sellen, I chose sellen. Jerren wasn't in the castle, but that's probably because I exhausted every dialogue before radahn. If you don't see their sign outside of rennala chamber, then I dunno.
Eh... I wanted Jerren's armor but I sure as hell wasn't allying with Sellen. I also don't like to kill NPCs unless they truelly deserve it, like Gostoc or Lady Tanith.
@@shmillbe3390 Your remember that scene in Stormveil where you open the door to get the rusted key and someone traps you inside while sniggering away, that was him. Also, if you die at all in Stormveil he steals 30% of your total runes which you can get back by killing him.
hi, any idea what could prevent him from showing up? i already beat radahn and finished ranni's questline. :( i really hope you have some sort of an idea
I've talked to Jerren after beat Radahn, but when I came back to the area he wasn't there but there were 2 bosses, after that I went back where Sellen was as a prisoner but he's not there, someone knows what do I have to do?
I'm done, I'm killing the Queen, she killed my lover Box and my teacher while she still lives and Radhan the poor one got smacked by me without knowing his story
I didn’t go back to red made till after I beat the general. The guy wasn’t on the throne nor was he at witchbane ruins. Did I screw up the quest? Where do I go from here?
What a great guide! Had been stuck for so long on this quest! My only problem is that I sided with Jerren and killed Sellen, is it still possible to get the azur armor set? The Church says that I can't get an absolution.
She told me to go find her body, when I find it, she does not seem to recognize me as a pupil and the dialogue advances no further. Info only, have not killed the mage boss at the school as of yet.
So I never took Sorcerer Sellen’s quest-line but I defeated Rehdan and spoke to Jerenne but now that I took Sellen’s quest and went to the Castle Jerenne wasn’t there no more and he isn’t down in the basement where Sellen is? Why is that please help
I killed Sellen. Then I realized that things would be different and I killed the other one. How can I get Sellen back ? I didn’t get any of the armor she gave me. I’m very regretful
I’ve transplantation but I can’t find jeered anywhere, I’m not sure if I spoke to him after I killed radahn and I also can’t find him at witchbane ruins either?!!
The summons are not at the front of the academy for me. I have met jarren in the tomb with salleen but when I go back to the academy the summons are not on the ground. What do I do. I did get a message that salleen body has died. Does this mean I was too slow. Didn’t know there was a timeline.
@@matiasluukkanen7718 not actually weak upgrade material. weapons without fixed ashes of war are valuable, have you seen the amount of people running uchigatanas/nagakibas? or the amount of people who use bloodhound step?
The two theories I've seen is that, first, she might've delved too deep into the magic kinda like the two great sorcerers you encounter or, second, since renalla is back she might've turned Sellen into that thing as punishment for trying to usurp her
@@cauthrim4298 Renalla already too heart broken to do anything. Based on the Graven-school and graven-mass talisman it probably the first one, which is also prove that she deserves it.
@@hideous_taco_michael_zacki Not anymore my dude, Rennala's too crestfallen and far from the sorceress she once was after Radagon left her. The Rennala we fought during the second phase of her boss fight was a construct conjured up by Ranni as a way to protect Rennala. After we bring the bodies of Lusat and Azur to Sellen, it is very much more likely that she turned into that giant stone face thing after delving to deep into primal glintstone sorcery.
I accidentally made her mad by trying to free the women like her in the weeping peninsula, if I use a celestial dew will it let me do her quest or just able to buy spells off her
Lmao the Queen really took a bathroom break, and then came back and turned Sellen into a bowling ball.
😭😂 I’m dead
Wait she did that?
She tried to overthrow a demigod...well at least i can still learn spells from her 👍
@@supremo5209 no, what happened to her is what happens to anybody who tries doing what she did
@@keikei2942 I think its her punishment for killing the magicians and sorcerers of the academy.
The 1st attack of the pumpkin head boss straight cuts to grace activation, is pure art of dominance.
I cackled at this cuz I thought the same thing 😭
Jeez, didn't know Gael would be making an appearance again but here we go.
I love geal so much
If it was really Gael, he probably would of been the Elden Lord by now
I think he's closer to Grandpappy The Parry God Hodrick since he uses the same sword.
god i love gael so god damn much im so happy i see him again. imagine how cool it would be if it was the same voice actor. i would be crying
Clown Gael.
From the Graven-school & Graven-mass talisman, it said
"A talisman depicting a (the first) school of graven mages, the nightmare of the academy.
The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry."
So I think that's her punishment for practice primeval sorcery. Note that Lusat and Azur is turn into stone themselves, according to their armor set.
So if you helped Seluvis, it seems that she failed to overthrown the Carians since you know, Rennala can't be killed at all due to the rebirth thing she has and it seems it was Rennala herself cursed Seluvis to turn into the rock thing
I couldn't figure why she turned into a giant face rock, thank you.
I don't even think its that. I think its more like she became so powerful she turned into one of those wizard rocks. Kinda like how in bloodborne getting more insight makes you transform.
From the Graven-school & Graven-mass talisman, it said
"A talisman depicting a (the first) school of graven mages, the nightmare of the academy.
The primeval current is a forbidden tradition of glintstone sorcery. To those who cleave to its teachings, the act of collecting sorcerers to fashion them into the seeds of stars is but another path of scientific inquiry."
Sellen, not Seluvis
Sellen?
very important for everyone who wants to go full MAGE, if you side at the end with Jerren, neither Azur nor Luset's armor will drop.
I am playing Mage build and you need the extra dmg from Azur set for max. power... but sadly i was to greedy and wanted the +25 stone Q.Q
Ohh that’s the +25 stone damn
This should be at the top, I spent 3 days trying to work this buggy questline to end up reading this now.. Lol smh
confused. where do their armors drop?
@@PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii If you pick sellen, you go back to the locations of Azur and Lusat.
@@PizdaMatiiiiiiiiiiii their armor will be where you found them before but only now they are gone (dead) and only the loot is left.
Thank you for posting both endings. All others are just for Sellen
I missed like 95% of the quests you did videos on... Really appreciate all the work you put into it and will definately binge watch your content a couple of times before NG+ or my second playthrough. Thx again for those guides!
It’s hilarious how often people struggle to spell «definitely» like dude it’s literally spelled as it is pronounced. It boggles the mind how people fail such simple shit
@@私はクソな中国人です Saying it's spelled as it's pronounced doesn't really help when you think of accents. You may pronounce it as definitely but I pronounce it as definately. Not a thing I do on purpose or something I can really change. It's just my accent makes it sound like that.
Not saying we should keep spelling it wrong of course but it probably isn't his fault.
An example I find kinda funny is that where most people say boot, I say bOOt. I put a lot of emphasis on the double o and I genuinely can't change that.
So, a bit of confusion here between the 7th (putting the soul into the new body) and the 8-9th (get Jarren to appear inside of the cell). Apparently after the update, you have to beat Radahn first, exhaust his dialogues, get him to appear in the cell and kill Sellen, THEN you can put the soul inside of her new body. If you reach Ranni's rise without having Jarren already killed her old body, you won't be able to interact with the new one. Just want to point that out.
so should i kill the chained body?, because i can't interact with the new one
You get the old man to kill it for you. Not killing by yourself. But yes.
So if i didn't talk with him and i just came back just for the Sellen quest and can't find him?
I put the glintstone in the new body, talked with her and then went to find Jarren and he's not there in the castle, he's not at her old body either
@@Felix-hv1li same
apparently it doesnt matter, head to the grand library and their summon signs should be outside the door.
Thank you so much for not talking during these walkthroughs. I missed a bunch of quests and I appreciate your documentation! The footage really speaks for itself imo, and it drives me crazy when some dude is just narrating the obvious while skipping past the meat of the story!
THANK YOU SO MUCH for showing us her full Lines. I make the full quest but only now after it - with the help of these Lines again i fully get all pieces together to fully understand the Result.
So the later parts of this story event was done slightly off, after you find azur and lustat, talk with sellen then go kill radahn. Go back to sellen and she will tell you to visit her body do so then talk with jerren the go back to her body and meet with jerren with her old body dead you can use the glintstone you got at the empty vessel at seluvis dungeon and from there the academy. Feel free to pick whatever side.
I am so sad sellen turns into a fucking bowling ball at the end. I was like wtf
I mean who did this?
@@私はクソな中国人です Rennala definitely. how come Sellen would even try to overthrow the Queen of Raya Lucaria just like that?
God bless you man for those videos. Straight to the point, all dialogue left in tact, and even with the item descriptions. It allows me to experience those quests without spending hours playing. All the best to you from Poland.
Thank you. 🤗
@@GamesfromMarsYT no problem anytime
Question: There's recently a channel suggesting you could kill Jerren at the dungeon when he visited the recent dead Sellen Body which her Glinstone you just took. Could you actually SAVE Sellen to not turn in to a Big Ball?
No. Because you actually failed in your Quest line.
I only really came here to see her dialogue because I accidentally pressed a button so I missed something. I appreciate that you showed the lines!
Take a sub and a like :)
Omg I'm here for the same reason
To be honest, i think it's not the end with a Jerren. In the end of the quest by Sellen you can get the new armor sets droped by azur mage and body from the hidden wall. And we still missing his set. So i think we need now to find him again.
You get Jerren's set if you help Sellen against him
@@cauthrim4298 yeah and that's means the end of the quest. But if u help Jerren - there's nothing but he says as about next met with him.
@@magness_d_winter_ren Missed out. Not everything is obtainable in one go man.
@@magness_d_winter_ren Cause you can only choose one per playthrough, that's a new game plus issue now
@@lancethedecayedguardian2719 two days ago i was disagree but now it makes sense as cut content or smth.
I would choose to help Jerren, atleast you can help both side. Atleast she won't suffer being the Rock.
Story wise, sellen was the villain when u think about it but it’s still hard to side against her. She knew of the side effect of primeval magic based on azurs and fusat. I guess she overestimated her ability
Edit: she was also a ruthless witch too as stated by jerren
I mean, Ranni transforms sorcerers into those stone heads to fuel herself, and has killed the entire Raya Lucaria leadership for their perceived disloyalty.
Sellen was only one who escaped wrath of Carian royal family for a time. But eventually even her would be transformed into ball because she tried to restore Academy's independence.
Dude, you're amazing
Amazing he played the game for you? Guides like this ruin games, nice effort but people like you dont even try to solve secrets in their own, they look it up. Why think, when you can google it.
@@vaderan7037 And then we have people like you, that sit on their high-horse of purity, talking in an objective manner as if you are the omnipotent judge of what makes and ruins someone's experience.
I'm saying this as someone that figured out all storyline elements themselves from Demon Souls to Sekiro (except the divine wind on the fat dude) without any guidance: This game in scale is MASSIVE, the storylines intertwine more than ever, there are 6 or 7 endings, there are completely miss-able areas, you can do things too soon or miss out on interactions just via exploring naturally, and lock yourself out of some key options for a build you wanted to have fun with.
No idea what you are doing on a video like this if you feel it ruins games so much, or why you have such an opinion despite the variables this title has over the others, but why think before you speak?
thank you for the videos, im not new in the souls series but damn the huge map got me lost.
Games from Mars thanks for these dialogues ! one suggestion, you could lower music sounds so the dialogue is more clear !
Killing Jerren is the best Ending. He Fulfills his Duty by Protecting Queen Renalla, dies in Honourable Combat like Radahn. And best of all his Sworn enemy Sellen Gets metamorphisized into that....thing, Ending her Reign of Terror and any possible threat to the Queen.
I killed Jerren at the end for his armor. I sure hope I didn't mess anything up. But if he does return in the future(DLC), I pray this'll be ignored and be as if I never killed him.
There’s an item you can use at a church I forget which church but you use the celestial dew and revives any npc you may have attacked or killed
I killed certain npc’s on my first play through and learned the hard way celestial dew won’t bring back most dead.
@@shlem5943 My first thought was try absolution, but sadly it doesn't work. Hoping I won't get screwed over later!
@@TrustyFriend you can do his quest instead once you get into new game plus dude
@@fishbones3177 if its someone that dies because of a questline and it being scripted, they won't come back. The revive is mainly meant for if they die unnaturally (out of script)
Technically you can get all the rewards all you have to do is kill him after you helped kill the Sorceress, just wait until he gives you the smithing Stone
That's evil, and exactly that type of thing I expect
You will still miss out azur and lusat set.
Hahahahahahahahaha yes!!!!!!! Awesome. I got his shit, her hat and his dragon stone. I'll get the mage stuff next play through. Lmao. Get wrecked. He's like "you are.. a menace! Beware... Iji!"
@@warofexodus which don't matter for a strength build at all.
You also dont get her weapon
The Eccentric set is peak Elden Bling. If you want to build a Landsknecht, wear his chest, pants, the soldier's cap (a kettle helm) and your choice of gauntlets. Pike and Flamberge to complete.
Late medieval mercenary cosplay? That is indeed peak.
the redmane castle part is suppose to happen before activating the doll
Jerren really should have started off with telling us hed pay a dragon smithing stone... id stomp that witches skull in in a mere second if he did.
Uhhh...
No.
You have to help him in your own terms if you want him to give it you.
Nah, you get better and unique gear from Sellen, and you can get dragon smithing stones enough by just proceeding with the game.
You only get Lusat and Azur armor by siding with Sellen.
Question: if you side with him at the end, can you still kill Jerren for his set once he gives you the upgrade stone?
Yes I just did this
I like both NPCs, but... oh, sadness, oh, sadness...
I want Jerren's set, but I don't want to kill him. Is there another way??? Oh, maybe, only in a New Game...
RIP Sellen, anyway...
New game plus dude unfortunately it's 1 or the other
Hahaha why did you type this out like an in-game message
@@shmillbe3390 ;) 😉
I've heard that Ranni actually gets upset at you if you complete the Sellen questline (siding with Sellen) too early in Ranni's questline - is there any extra text for that, or does she just refuse to talk to you? Would be interesting to see a video of the crossover if Ranni says anything to you about it.
jerren is very interesting character. i do hope we meet again in a new dlc
there sure are no happy endings in this game, are there?
No
Roderika seems to be pretty happy.
@@spectralassassin6030 lmaoo not wrong
@@brightsydebill8410 Never mind. I got to the end.
@Mc76 Bittersweet.
I still can’t find Jerren after radhan festive and he isn’t at sellen body
Sellen always did have a bit of a big head on her shoulders... @19:05
So it’s better to help Sellen when looking at the loot? Is there a way to get Jerren (Gael’s) armor while also helping him… and not killing him at the end.
Nah you gotta kill him to get the items
I expect Jerren will probably return for like the PVP DLC or something
So I talked to jerren before even finding comet azur so I have all the step down except jerren is not on the chair anymore and he is not in the chamber either… I really don’t know where he went
No matter what you choose Sellen never will get good ending. I feel like it makes no sense to side agaist her because most of the quest tends to heavy towards her because of student-teacher relationship.
But Sellen did the most unforgivable thing, that is when she killed Iji after she gets the new body. And i like Iji. This game man.
I mean the revelation that she is a dangerous mass murderer that you helped to set free, is a reason to side against her
@@theoneandonly9775 what why swould you say that?
seems Iji only kills himself after you killed Blaid after ending Ranni's quest
@@pugachan9928 well its a reason to side against her and the story tells you so
@@SirTake Iji only get burned if you progress through Sellen quest. I did Ranni questline first before doing Sellen. Even after you killed Blaid and told Iji about Blaid death, he was still there doing his stuff.
After i progress through Sellen questline later only you will found his burned body. Sje did have a hand on Iji death. She is the most dangerous apostate mage for a reason
Where do you get you pot helmet from?? The one you're wearing in the video
Alexander questline
I helped Sellen but after the fight, the witch that was on the center of the room disappeared. So I can't respec my points, there's a solution for that?
She is still in the room just go to the right and you well see her
Also fast travel again and she will be back in the middle of the room while Sellen turn into a Graven-school.
I wonder if her primal glintstone would/could be put in a certain someone meant to be given a potion from Seluvis. 🤔
Wym?
@@yasinahmed6157 The primal glintstone from Sellen gets put into a puppet body that looks like her, yet there's other NPC's that can be turned into puppets for use. It'd be interesting to see if some of the others can be given the Primal Glintstone instead (such as Nepheli).
*QUESTION*
*Ok if I’m going for the Ranni ending cutscene.*
*So would doing Sellen’s quest line effect the Ranni ending cutscene?* 🤔
So you can only do one of the choices? Or can you do both like in the video? I'd like to help sellen but I don't wanna miss a dragon smith stone
Me too
Very disappointed in the ending to the quest I thought she was gonna be our ally for the long haul
Welcome to FromSoft games
@@1wayroad935 hahaha I love watching the new players discovering the wonderful worlds of fromsoft
Honestly it’s pretty lame how all npcs just fuckin die at the end without fail unless they serve an important game function like the spirit turner or the smith. Like at the end the game is so dead it’s like wtf am I even lord for?
@@hhjhj393 Yeah but where's the fun in knowing you going to get a horrendously depressing ending? I'd actually like to play elden ring but from everything I've heard about it, it makes bloodborne seem cheery and I dont want to spend hours playing a game just to be even more depressed than I already am by the time its finished.
Not _all_ NPCs have a bad ending. (In contrast, I'd argue Elden RIng to probably be the most optimistic FromSoft game overall, despite having such widespread body horror.) Some examples...
_(Spoilers ahead)_
- If you don't betray Nepheli to Seluvis, and complete Kenneth Haight and Gostoc's side quests, they all move into Stormveil Castle together, with Nepheli being a rightful heir to the lands by way of relation to Godfrey and all. And, she'll show up for the final battle against her... father? Grandfather? Hoarah Loux, himself, towards the end, if you summon her- same spot you summon Melina for the Morgott fight prior.
- Jar-Bairn, though obviously shaken up by Diallos dying to protect him, being a sole survivor of the perfumer attack on Jarburg, and learning that Alexander died for good this time, is still hopeful. All of your examples give him the resolve to grow stronger, and at that point it's pretty much the end of the game, whereupon you as Elden Lord are presumably about to establish a world where that's much more possible.
- Jerren, if you side with him here, just thanks you for putting a war criminal away at the college he used to go to, casually hands out a material to craft a god-slaying weapon with, and dips. No tragedy or anything.
- Ranni's pretty content to chill even if you don't do her ending and speed the process of her whole Age of the Stars thing along. Even if Blaidd and Iji dying to cover her escape from the Black Knives probably upsets her, she got what she wanted, and almost certainly knows that they were always aware that their lives were on the line. If you _do,_ you have a legit romance _and_ the Age of the Stars shows up right now, and you go beat the shit out of star-borne eldritch beings if not also other Outer Gods together in space with the power of the Elden Ring, which, you know, cool as shit.
And besides, there's a big contrast between Dark Souls and this story between _how_ a lot of these characters die. In Dark Souls, it's very often in desperation, with the withered remnants of their strength being scavenged after the fact by your undead bystander, usually powerless to step in. In Elden Ring, a lot of the characters that die do so by pursuing their own dreams successfully, and in so doing, deliberately pass their strength on to you, like this is an anime or some shit. In ER's culture, after all, the many combining to become stronger than the sum of their parts is considered something of a sacred practice (excepting Godrick's grotesque corruption of grafting which just involves bullying people and stealing their limbs)- see, grafting originating with Godfrey and Serosh, the Erdtree being itself literally grafted _onto_ the existing Great Tree, the fact that repairing the Elden Ring just involves adding more people's runes to fill in the missing cracks in most endings, the fact that the "Valiant Gargoyles" are considered such for being made up of multiple patched-together champions reinforced with stone like armor... etc.
So I've found Lusat in the hidden cave but after I came back to Sellen to tell her, she didn't give me additional dialogue to go meet her in Witchbane ruins. I went there regardless and I was unable to speak to the imprisoned Sellen. I followed the guide but can't seem to progress the quest line. Did I miss something or do I need to kill Radahn first? Or something along the lines?
You have to kill radahn first
@@DarkFlame96 thank you brother ✊
She won’t give me any more dialogue and I’ve killed radan! Went to the guy in the church and he didn’t say anything either ?
@@Pixelkip Did you also talk to Primeval Sorcerer Azur?
Did you find an answer to it because i have the same problem
Can anybody help me understand why she morphed into that ball at the end?
It could be the sorcery that she practices, glenstone sorcery you can find her mentor turning who is turning in to Crystal because he used glenstone sorcery.
Or it could also do with Rennala's rebirth magic
These are the two theory I have, but who knows really.
Basically she wants overthrow Rennala problem is that Rennala is immortal, she is not powerful enough to take her on and for her crimes she is then morphed into that ball to be in agonizing pain for the rest of her existance, either that or by diving too deep into Glenstone Sorcery she is painfully morphed into that ball no matter what path you choose she loses. For my personal decision due to the heinous crimes she committed and also not wsnting to see her in agonizing pain for the rest of her life I opted to kill her as depressing as that is I find it the lesser of two evils
@@lancethedecayedguardian2719 I think the circumstances is similar to beasthood in BB, you dives too deep into something, and there is a reason why primal glindstone sorcery is forbidden in one of certain item description.
@@lancethedecayedguardian2719 yeah ok geralt
19:04 *"You get a haircut?"*
Jerren never show himself for me. But sellen is alive, I got her new body. I hope I can finish the quest. EDIT : I completed the quest and now I have the azure glintstone set, I love it
how did u find Jerren
@@v_3dg663 I didn't find him, but I saw the 2 summoning signs for him and sellen, I chose sellen. Jerren wasn't in the castle, but that's probably because I exhausted every dialogue before radahn. If you don't see their sign outside of rennala chamber, then I dunno.
SHIT, I DIDN'T SEE THE FULL VIDEO NOW I HELPED SELLEN AND LOST THE +10 SOMBER SMITHING STONE
Thats for the +25. Not somber i think
You are very helpful!😁
Eh... I wanted Jerren's armor but I sure as hell wasn't allying with Sellen. I also don't like to kill NPCs unless they truelly deserve it, like Gostoc or Lady Tanith.
What did gostoc do, he's a free man. I mean I killed him for the bell ball, but still
@@shmillbe3390 Your remember that scene in Stormveil where you open the door to get the rusted key and someone traps you inside while sniggering away, that was him. Also, if you die at all in Stormveil he steals 30% of your total runes which you can get back by killing him.
@@shmillbe3390 the guy is a scoundrel and is as bad as patches
Can someone help me find where the announcer is? He’s not appearing at castle redmane
hi, any idea what could prevent him from showing up? i already beat radahn and finished ranni's questline. :( i really hope you have some sort of an idea
She turns herself into a glinstone bowling ball, funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
TH-cam needs to fix those captions. I have no idea where to find Jerren I talked to him already but your text cuts off before I read anything useful.
20:10 Where can one aquire the T-Pose emote? xD
Goldmask questline
Brother Corhyn and Goldmask Questline: th-cam.com/video/H9yht4xLQQc/w-d-xo.html
I've talked to Jerren after beat Radahn, but when I came back to the area he wasn't there but there were 2 bosses, after that I went back where Sellen was as a prisoner but he's not there, someone knows what do I have to do?
Kill the bosses
@@gabrieldelrosario5169 I've already killed them
i have the same problem
Did you put her stone in seluvis's puppet?
I found Jerren again in Witchbane ruins
I am so simping for Sellen
I didn't even have a questioned with him. I must have gotten locked out. Crazy lol
I'm done, I'm killing the Queen, she killed my lover Box and my teacher while she still lives and Radhan the poor one got smacked by me without knowing his story
I didn’t go back to red made till after I beat the general. The guy wasn’t on the throne nor was he at witchbane ruins. Did I screw up the quest? Where do I go from here?
gael is not at the redmane castle or back at the witch bane ruins ? all i get is sellen going to the academy
What a great guide! Had been stuck for so long on this quest! My only problem is that I sided with Jerren and killed Sellen, is it still possible to get the azur armor set? The Church says that I can't get an absolution.
Nope you can't, but there"s still NG+...
The whole questline is scripted. You can't change their fates.
I truly can’t decide…
She told me to go find her body, when I find it, she does not seem to recognize me as a pupil and the dialogue advances no further. Info only, have not killed the mage boss at the school as of yet.
So I never took Sorcerer Sellen’s quest-line but I defeated Rehdan and spoke to Jerenne but now that I took Sellen’s quest and went to the Castle Jerenne wasn’t there no more and he isn’t down in the basement where Sellen is? Why is that please help
I am playing a warrior, when I came to Sellen, she wasn't there. The room was empty after fighting the boss. Did I do something wrong?
I've done all the steps up to where you either help Sellen or Jerren, but I do not see their signs appear?
Jerren is still standing in Witchbane ruins
If u help sellen does that mean no mpre respec ing stats?
14:51 jarren is not here in my account
Jerren isn't at either locations for me idk why pls explain
I got the glimstone in my inventory but when i go to rennis rise she won’t let me talk to her at all and suggestions?
I killed Sellen. Then I realized that things would be different and I killed the other one. How can I get Sellen back ? I didn’t get any of the armor she gave me. I’m very regretful
If we kill the queen before their death match starts does she still get bowling balled or does the quest break?
I finished everything in the quest. But I did not find the sign I cannot help Sellen or invade her. Any help guys?
How'd you fight BOTH of them in the same game?
What happens if you kill sellen after helping her kill gael?
I’ve transplantation but I can’t find jeered anywhere, I’m not sure if I spoke to him after I killed radahn and I also can’t find him at witchbane ruins either?!!
The summons are not at the front of the academy for me. I have met jarren in the tomb with salleen but when I go back to the academy the summons are not on the ground. What do I do. I did get a message that salleen body has died. Does this mean I was too slow. Didn’t know there was a timeline.
Jerren wont show up at witchbane ruins after i talked to him by radahns place. What do i do?
I found her in Witchbane Ruins before all of the Seethewater Terminus stuff, did I fuck up the whole questline due to this?
Big fat like on this one brother, couldn’t figure out to get this for the life of me
Bruh Jerren gives you WHAT?
Sellen is so dead. 😂
Weak upgrade material.
End game armor and weapons are better.
@@matiasluukkanen7718 not actually weak upgrade material. weapons without fixed ashes of war are valuable, have you seen the amount of people running uchigatanas/nagakibas? or the amount of people who use bloodhound step?
I defeated radahn at the very start of the game and know Jeren is not in his palace on his throne. Any Idea where to find him?
So basically you should help Jeren yaegar
Wait can someone explain what happened to sellen ? Why did she become that giant bubbly head ?
The two theories I've seen is that, first, she might've delved too deep into the magic kinda like the two great sorcerers you encounter or, second, since renalla is back she might've turned Sellen into that thing as punishment for trying to usurp her
@@cauthrim4298 Renalla already too heart broken to do anything. Based on the Graven-school and graven-mass talisman it probably the first one, which is also prove that she deserves it.
@@BuiBaoNguyen could've been her child as it made the clone of her you fought in phase two
@@BuiBaoNguyen But don't forget that Renalla is an immortal queen of the moon and probably the most powerful sorcerer so far.
@@hideous_taco_michael_zacki Not anymore my dude, Rennala's too crestfallen and far from the sorceress she once was after Radagon left her. The Rennala we fought during the second phase of her boss fight was a construct conjured up by Ranni as a way to protect Rennala. After we bring the bodies of Lusat and Azur to Sellen, it is very much more likely that she turned into that giant stone face thing after delving to deep into primal glintstone sorcery.
Jerren wont spawn at the plaza for me, his chair is empty
In my 1st playthrough, Jarren didn't show up at the Witchbane ruin after Radahn's festival.
You just have to go at the Academy if he doesn't spawn, i did It without him spawning
I don't think it was the Queen, i think ranni has her Revenge
I think so too. Queen doesn't even know what's happening and Ranni can work her magic from afar, as we saw in Rennala's boss fight.
SO he wasnt at the caslte does it matter if i did the radahns boss fight all ready?
For some reason jarren isn't showing up at the church for me what'd I do wrong can someone please help me and reply if they know what's happening
I went back to go see her at Waypoint but she is no longer there
i cant find the guy in step 8, hes not there
I accidentally made her mad by trying to free the women like her in the weeping peninsula, if I use a celestial dew will it let me do her quest or just able to buy spells off her
Same
use the dew it will reset her
@@TheUlmen okay thats good, thank you!
Jarren questline is still going after killing sellen right? I think siding with jarren is more worth then sellen
Ranni: “So you have chosen death…”
Seluvis must be alive to put her glinystone soul in the new body?
I killed radahn and i cant find jarren help plz
Jerren isn’t at red mane castle where can I find him??
Same problem
Any solution?
@@Tupperware3 Yeah you can just go to the grand library and find the gold summon sign outside the door