Bro the scenario is really interesting but the execution is really bad. You don’t explain properly how the Austrians could give up that easy. Siege of Przemysl could have been a good point of divergence. Austrians would definitely lose territory to the Serbs, the kingdom of Galicia Lodomeria and probably also Bukovina would be given to the Russians. Germans would also be furious however it would only cause the expansionist weltpolitik ideology of the monarch to become heavily unpopular, with maybe even the monarchy getting disposed of all together by the generals. Germany would also lose its colonies and some territory to Russia and France. Like Alsace and some Polish majority areas. Ottomans would probably collapse however the partition would be a lot messier and I’m not too sure if a republic would ever get established in Anatolia. Also the partition plans that were made are not mentioned properly in the video. After WW1 your scenario just becomes a border gore hoi4 campaign.
Hey bro, this is a very cool video. I have a suggestion, what Burgundy survived, not like the one from TNO or anything. the real kingdom of burgundy, i think its a cool idea.
I'm sorry you only have 638 Subscribers??? I don't even understand how that is possible, this video is so cool and so detailed. If you were to continue making the content you do right now, you could have 100k by next year.
As a Hungarian, I just feel better when I hear an alternative timeline, where we do not live in hell. I just like imagining, that I live in a Hungary, that is democratic and leans towards social acceptance.
On the other hand, as an Austrian I can say that I wish we had Hungary‘s migration policy - in Austria the Leftist parties is just a clownshow that increases inflation , making everything deemed climate unfriendly taxed way too much. The right parties aren‘t better either, scandal after scandal and empty promises… the biggest problem in the country being inflation, bad energy policies and a LOT of migration, thus crime and loss of culture.
Great content! One note though: the Ottoman Empire was not part of the war initially, so if in this scenario it lasts only a couple of months, they are not involved in it, therefore they wouldn't collapse and be partitioned as a result of it, however a different justification for the same result could be valid as with the Allies not having anything better to do the mandation of the Ottomans could be more well-managed. Just a technical oversight, otherwise very well done.
Yhe you have a really good point! When rewatching the video I was thinking "Idk if I should have done that with the ottomans. What I was trying to do in the video was to showcase that the ottomans might have had some sort of a coup or civil war so all of the other powers get together and partition the empire. However I did not execute that very well and its super realistic any ways.
mate!!! idea!!! can you do what if napoleon II aka napoleon's son live longer and become emperor of france! cause there are many sources say that he was like his father, a true military and political genius but his life was cut too short due to a disease.
I have made some mods (not released) but I won't have time to do so since I am focused on making videos. However it is probably going to happen in the future!
I don’t think the Germans would lose the polish corridor if they were winning in France even if they signed a armistice. The battle of tannenburg was so crushing that at the very least Germany would hold its eastern integrity. If not gaining power over Poland in exchange for hanging over colonies
The bolchevic could only take power in Russia because the rest of europe was still occupied with the war. If the first WW didn't happen, almost all of europe would provide the russians assistance in decimating the communist threat. Just remember that at the time, almost all major european powers were monachies! Communism was fairly early on understood as a dangerous anti monachic ideologie. They also fairly declared their intent on liberating the people of all nations, meaning in this monachic europe they painted the target on their back themselves.
I have an idea , what if there was like an H.R.E but for the orthodox christian lands like russia , greece , bulgaria , serbia & romania during the mid-late mideval era ?
I am glad you like my content that much. I am going to go full time when I reach 1000 subs and get my channel monetized! I am hoping this would be this mouth.
What's up with all those unimaginative country names based on USA? United states of Europe? Ridiculous. UK is not United States of Britain. Germany is not the United States of Germania. It would be called the Pannonian Federation or something akin. Not United States.
Unimaginative ouch, I tried. *United States of Greater Austria* - that's how people refer to a potential federalization of the A-H empire. That is also what I am basing the names on + Danubian Federation. As far as the "realism" of the name, such things are impossible to predict. In my opinion its just personal preference I like the sound of USE you like Pannonian Federation.
@@Porphyrios.History Oh I didn't mean to single you out. It was more of a "rant" in general when it comes to federal EU or AH. Being native from the region, from one of the lesser ethnicies of the empire, you can notice that as they were more inclusive they added more nationalities into the titles. AH, Czechslovakia, kingdom of Slovenians, croats and Serbs, later Yugoslavia (even more inclusive). So they would not be able to go with federation of Austria, and would kind of need to go with a neutral one, whilst at the time not making any connections to wider Europe, as that was not popular (due to diplomacy, and tendency to claim more lands, ed emperor of Germans, rather than emperor of Germany case)
That ending had terrible borders. I've seen african countries have better borders. That peace deal was so terrible i doubt peace would ever be an option.not to mention that germany would be even more vengeful in this timeline, seeing the entente basically annexed half of germany. And they and many other nations would face constant rebellion for years to come. You can't draw a line between ethnicities and not expect the minority to be one with the mainland.
Amazing video quality! The intro caught me by surprise!
Thank you, was it the "YOU" part!
Should I make a par two where I explore what the USCE will do in the second world war and if they would be able to unite all of Europe.
Heck yes
Yes pls
Yes that would be amazing! Please
Bro the scenario is really interesting but the execution is really bad.
You don’t explain properly how the Austrians could give up that easy. Siege of Przemysl could have been a good point of divergence.
Austrians would definitely lose territory to the Serbs, the kingdom of Galicia Lodomeria and probably also Bukovina would be given to the Russians. Germans would also be furious however it would only cause the expansionist weltpolitik ideology of the monarch to become heavily unpopular, with maybe even the monarchy getting disposed of all together by the generals. Germany would also lose its colonies and some territory to Russia and France. Like Alsace and some Polish majority areas.
Ottomans would probably collapse however the partition would be a lot messier and I’m not too sure if a republic would ever get established in Anatolia. Also the partition plans that were made are not mentioned properly in the video.
After WW1 your scenario just becomes a border gore hoi4 campaign.
YESSS
Hey bro, this is a very cool video. I have a suggestion, what Burgundy survived, not like the one from TNO or anything. the real kingdom of burgundy, i think its a cool idea.
Thank you! I think Neatling just release a video on that topic.
@@Porphyrios.History damn he did?
amazing video as always!
Thank you so much!
I'm sorry you only have 638 Subscribers??? I don't even understand how that is possible, this video is so cool and so detailed. If you were to continue making the content you do right now, you could have 100k by next year.
Thank you so much! Comment like this motivate me to do these videos!
As a Hungarian, I just feel better when I hear an alternative timeline, where we do not live in hell. I just like imagining, that I live in a Hungary, that is democratic and leans towards social acceptance.
Is Hungary that bad?
@@Porphyrios.History economy sucks, politic is comedy, history is basically "and things got worse" on a repeat
On the other hand, as an Austrian I can say that I wish we had Hungary‘s migration policy - in Austria the Leftist parties is just a clownshow that increases inflation , making everything deemed climate unfriendly taxed way too much. The right parties aren‘t better either, scandal after scandal and empty promises… the biggest problem in the country being inflation, bad energy policies and a LOT of migration, thus crime and loss of culture.
Great content! One note though: the Ottoman Empire was not part of the war initially, so if in this scenario it lasts only a couple of months, they are not involved in it, therefore they wouldn't collapse and be partitioned as a result of it, however a different justification for the same result could be valid as with the Allies not having anything better to do the mandation of the Ottomans could be more well-managed. Just a technical oversight, otherwise very well done.
Yhe you have a really good point! When rewatching the video I was thinking "Idk if I should have done that with the ottomans. What I was trying to do in the video was to showcase that the ottomans might have had some sort of a coup or civil war so all of the other powers get together and partition the empire. However I did not execute that very well and its super realistic any ways.
Good job 👏👏👏👏
Thank you!
mate!!! idea!!! can you do what if napoleon II aka napoleon's son live longer and become emperor of france! cause there are many sources say that he was like his father, a true military and political genius but his life was cut too short due to a disease.
Mannnnnnn. You deserve atleast 100k subscribers. I hope you will get more soon. Anyways enjoy my sub!
Thank you so much for the encouraging comment and for the sub! I am on the grind so I hope I mange to make a substantial TH-cam channel too.
Why would Italy join AH in this scenario’s Second World War when they still held territories considered “Italia irredenta”!
I think you’re Bulgarian ngl. You sound like rewriting history.
Yall make great content.
bro, you can make a whole HOI4 mod
I have made some mods (not released) but I won't have time to do so since I am focused on making videos. However it is probably going to happen in the future!
Damn ur the king of bordergore
I don’t think the Germans would lose the polish corridor if they were winning in France even if they signed a armistice. The battle of tannenburg was so crushing that at the very least Germany would hold its eastern integrity. If not gaining power over Poland in exchange for hanging over colonies
The bolchevic could only take power in Russia because the rest of europe was still occupied with the war.
If the first WW didn't happen, almost all of europe would provide the russians assistance in decimating the communist threat.
Just remember that at the time, almost all major european powers were monachies!
Communism was fairly early on understood as a dangerous anti monachic ideologie.
They also fairly declared their intent on liberating the people of all nations, meaning in this monachic europe they painted the target on their back themselves.
they dont become commi after our ww1 also they get attacked at the end
I have an idea , what if there was like an H.R.E but for the orthodox christian lands like russia , greece , bulgaria , serbia & romania during the mid-late mideval era ?
That's relay interesting I will look into it and might make a video. Thank you for subscribing and watching my videos!
@@Porphyrios.History aye man , keep it up , l've watched all of your vids so far l like em
I hope that you are able to make money out of these videos consider a patreon in the future
I am glad you like my content that much. I am going to go full time when I reach 1000 subs and get my channel monetized! I am hoping this would be this mouth.
the qualty is from a 2m sub channel
Thank you! I want to improve quality event more but sadly that's not possible for now sine I am a one man show.
Nice.
What's up with all those unimaginative country names based on USA?
United states of Europe? Ridiculous.
UK is not United States of Britain.
Germany is not the United States of Germania.
It would be called the Pannonian Federation or something akin. Not United States.
Unimaginative ouch, I tried. *United States of Greater Austria* - that's how people refer to a potential federalization of the A-H empire. That is also what I am basing the names on + Danubian Federation. As far as the "realism" of the name, such things are impossible to predict. In my opinion its just personal preference I like the sound of USE you like Pannonian Federation.
@@Porphyrios.History Oh I didn't mean to single you out. It was more of a "rant" in general when it comes to federal EU or AH.
Being native from the region, from one of the lesser ethnicies of the empire, you can notice that as they were more inclusive they added more nationalities into the titles.
AH, Czechslovakia, kingdom of Slovenians, croats and Serbs, later Yugoslavia (even more inclusive).
So they would not be able to go with federation of Austria, and would kind of need to go with a neutral one, whilst at the time not making any connections to wider Europe, as that was not popular (due to diplomacy, and tendency to claim more lands, ed emperor of Germans, rather than emperor of Germany case)
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That ending had terrible borders. I've seen african countries have better borders. That peace deal was so terrible i doubt peace would ever be an option.not to mention that germany would be even more vengeful in this timeline, seeing the entente basically annexed half of germany. And they and many other nations would face constant rebellion for years to come. You can't draw a line between ethnicities and not expect the minority to be one with the mainland.
cool
Thank you!
rip FJ 3:35
RIP
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