@@lucanalex3606 I don't know. I'm guessing that they, like me, are not so pissed about it, and are just making jokes, but for one I'm still kind of annoyed, and I dont know why. It could be because it was a rather sick event, and you should definitley research it if you dont know about it, but for the most part I dont know why it made me sort of angry.
I think a peace event fired with Italy capitulating due to the fact that in a realistic sense, with Russia gone and now Italy gone, you have one gargantuan front on the German border to defend with uk, France, and america, but now you have this mountainous front in the Alpes plus massive areas of the Mediterranean to contest now that Italy has fallen. The fact the ottomans are still around makes the situation untenable.
Plus Greece, Serbia, Montenegro, and Romania all fell too. So basically, the central powers have already defeated 5 countries, two of which were majors, while the Entente has failed to capitulate a single country. The writing was already on the wall. Dragging it out would only have cost more lives, just like how Germany surrendered without having to be invaded or the Entente having to march all the way to Berlin
As grindy as this was... it was still an unrealistic amount of maneuver warfare for WW1 era tech. Granted the Eastern Front always was more dynamic. Still, the complete failure to break through the Western Front was accurate, at least. Lol at the idea of Austria-Hungary successfully pulling off a naval invasion of Italy though.
You're talking about a WW2 game that's changed to look like a WW1 game. No matter what, of course it'll be more like WW2 then WW1 as it's a game about WW2. Oh and yeah it's a game, ofc it's not going to be realistic at all
I mean there is entrenchment and entrenchment speed in base HOI4, I think with a trench building (if I recall correctly that was in the original worse Great War mod) or a bonus to maybe France with a defense buff and entrenchment speed buff but debuffing attack (defense and attack against Germany btw), maybe it could more accurately simulate the Western Front since there’s a possibility you could just breakthrough as a skilled player and Schlieffen with unrealistic maneuver
"This can't be that hard, right." "I may have underestimated how hard this war is gonna be." "I'm gonna regret this, aren't I?" Going through all stages of the summer 1914.
I’d love to see more of this mod…especially the nations that actually have completed focus trees. Also historical focuses definitely matters for this mod.
"magically they somehow made some divisions appear" Quite honestly that is the exact thing the italians did in WW1. They thought if you had to fight near your home you'd fight harder to... well... not lose it. so they kept their divisions close to their home to fight.
@delano4526 being able to draft women and children to build trench fortifications also helped. While it can be seen as cruel the Soviets were running out of places to evacuate to. The development of Russia has always centered in the west and trying to evacuate too many people to the east would've resulted in a humanitarian nightmare.
7:30 - I think Franz Joseph should have a Resistance suppression and/or Compliance gain multiplier instead of the Ideology Drift stuff. A lot of the national groups in Austria-Hungary had no loyalty to the empire but had some loyalty to him personally for his reforms in the 19th Century.
“What if Austria-Hungary wasn’t terrible in WW1?” Also Austria-Hungary: Having to deal with fronts with the Russians, Serbians, Italians and Romanians all at the same time.
@@rickeymitok2933 Romania was a problem and broke almost instantly through the austrian defenses in the carpathians. They started collapsing after the germans sent tens of thousands of soldiers, along with Von Mackensen, to the southern flank of Romania.
...Should probably watch through the video before commenting, but I'm irrationally annoyed by seeing the game describe Austria-Hungary as an "Authoritarian Regime", and was already in a shaky mood, so I feel the need to rant. The empire (and the German Empire too, tbh) was way more decentralised than modern countries. (And what meaning does "authoritarian" have beyond a buzz-word if it doesn't mean "centralised"?) To give an example from both empires; In WW1, Ludwig III of Bavaria hoped that Bavarian victories in the war would give him leverage in an eventual peace deal to keep Bavaria powerful enough to rival Prussia, to keep Germany from becoming too centralised around Prussia. Even in America, one of the most decentralised western countries (due to the federal system), it'd seem pretty ridiculous for any of the states to have enough power to rival the national government. And in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Emperor had little enough authority in Hungary that the Hungarians only had to pay taxes to their nobles, who in turn were tax-exempt. Imagine if modern countries just didn't tax ~40% of the population...
Imagine playing as a Balkan nation: Italy is at war with the Ottomans. The Continent of Europe supports you politically and gives you guns. ( Bulgaria had the same fate as the Ottoman Empire )
despite everyone's thoughts, joseph was a competent kaiser that had very good plans of a federation with equal rights for everyone and he didnt look forward for his holy country to fight the bloodiest war of all time.
You should do The Ottomans in this mod and go down The Third Rome path. Ive done it and its real hard to get the ball rolling (The Balkan War inpreticular) but once you do you are unstoppable especially when you start coring everything.
When you play this mod again, make subs. They are incredibly overpowered in this mod. And I mean it. Basically nothing can attack them. Depth charges are a 1917 tech. They just massacre surface ships if you set them to attack at high risk. Normally I don't support sub spam, but it's the only realistic way to beat the British navy is with them
Worldwar one was all about artillery and trenches: Only in the west, where Germany and France had a faceoff. In the east it was verry much mobile maneuver warfare.
Just an aside... The novel you talked about, The Legendary Mrchanic, ic complete at 1463 chapters. Considering the outcome, I'm guessing this mod doesn't use a contribution score to assess gains/losses when peace is declared.
It uses the claims system to decide who gets what in the main peace deal. If you somehow go to war afterwards, it uses the vanilla contribution score. I played Sweden and I got all of Finland despite joining 3 months before the end of the war.
Yes. It did happen so you are quite right. Its like one of those things you hear about and think "That can't be real" and then you find out it actually happened.
My man just called a historical event a sabaton reference.
@Thingofchicken I hope it was
He called the title of the news thing a sabaton reference. Its exactly the same.
Good god even if it was a joke that pissed me off to an unreasonable degree
Why are y'all so pissed about it?
@@lucanalex3606 I don't know. I'm guessing that they, like me, are not so pissed about it, and are just making jokes, but for one I'm still kind of annoyed, and I dont know why. It could be because it was a rather sick event, and you should definitley research it if you dont know about it, but for the most part I dont know why it made me sort of angry.
WWII Italy: I'm completely worthless, no one could be more worthless.
WWI Italy: Hold my beer
Ah yes the joys of the many battles of the Isonzo.
at least ww2 italy was industrialised lol
@@Tdelliex WW1 Italy was industrialised as well - just not as much as in WW2.
I wonder if you've ever at least TOUCHED a history book
I disagree, Italy fought hard in The Great War
I think a peace event fired with Italy capitulating due to the fact that in a realistic sense, with Russia gone and now Italy gone, you have one gargantuan front on the German border to defend with uk, France, and america, but now you have this mountainous front in the Alpes plus massive areas of the Mediterranean to contest now that Italy has fallen. The fact the ottomans are still around makes the situation untenable.
Plus Greece, Serbia, Montenegro, and Romania all fell too. So basically, the central powers have already defeated 5 countries, two of which were majors, while the Entente has failed to capitulate a single country. The writing was already on the wall. Dragging it out would only have cost more lives, just like how Germany surrendered without having to be invaded or the Entente having to march all the way to Berlin
Nope crazy
Both sides have a decision they can click if the war goes too south so they will offer peace
I love how excited he was when he saw "Crush the Serbian Terrorists" in the focus tree.
Bro I'm just wondering what happened to the owl in ur profile and where that image came from
I always get excited when something gets the opportunity to shit on Russia Lite.
@@aliabdallah102 definitely a Bosnian definitely a bosnian
@@yeslol9303 a bodnian serb backed by the serbian government.
@@yeslol9303 definitely
6:19 Playing as the Ottomans is like playing a disaster save.
Hi again Vic (from Mocha and Lemming)
@@Tom-oj7si Hello
Hello Vic
@@5BeerPlan Hello
I played once with the ottomans, they drive me crazy...never again
Time for a rebrand into the Austria Hungary Hoi4 channel I think, you made this niche yours.
I was sold on Franz' muttonchops
@@Bitt3rSteel We can relate
As grindy as this was... it was still an unrealistic amount of maneuver warfare for WW1 era tech. Granted the Eastern Front always was more dynamic. Still, the complete failure to break through the Western Front was accurate, at least. Lol at the idea of Austria-Hungary successfully pulling off a naval invasion of Italy though.
You're talking about a WW2 game that's changed to look like a WW1 game. No matter what, of course it'll be more like WW2 then WW1 as it's a game about WW2. Oh and yeah it's a game, ofc it's not going to be realistic at all
Except Germany did break through on the western front in operation Michael
I mean there is entrenchment and entrenchment speed in base HOI4, I think with a trench building (if I recall correctly that was in the original worse Great War mod) or a bonus to maybe France with a defense buff and entrenchment speed buff but debuffing attack (defense and attack against Germany btw), maybe it could more accurately simulate the Western Front since there’s a possibility you could just breakthrough as a skilled player and Schlieffen with unrealistic maneuver
It’s really not that serious my guy
@@christoffereilskov5006 and lost five seconds later
"This can't be that hard, right."
"I may have underestimated how hard this war is gonna be."
"I'm gonna regret this, aren't I?"
Going through all stages of the summer 1914.
I’d love to see more of this mod…especially the nations that actually have completed focus trees. Also historical focuses definitely matters for this mod.
"...between 1 January 1913 and 1 January 1914 he proposed a Serbian war twenty-five times".
-Conrad's wiki page
Very based
on average, twice a month. Stubborn lad this one
He did so in an attempt to win over a girl
he wanted a pre emptive strike against italy in 1914... i mean he saw the atack comming, but he wanted to atack without an fucking army avaible
"magically they somehow made some divisions appear"
Quite honestly that is the exact thing the italians did in WW1. They thought if you had to fight near your home you'd fight harder to... well... not lose it. so they kept their divisions close to their home to fight.
Yes, trying 11 times to take the Isonzo river and failing was all part of the plan.
Reminds me of the Soviets in ww2 refusing evacuation of civilians to increase fighting spirit of troops
@delano4526 being able to draft women and children to build trench fortifications also helped.
While it can be seen as cruel the Soviets were running out of places to evacuate to. The development of Russia has always centered in the west and trying to evacuate too many people to the east would've resulted in a humanitarian nightmare.
7:30 - I think Franz Joseph should have a Resistance suppression and/or Compliance gain multiplier instead of the Ideology Drift stuff. A lot of the national groups in Austria-Hungary had no loyalty to the empire but had some loyalty to him personally for his reforms in the 19th Century.
I always like seeing the post-war event chains, especially when the Entente loses (mostly because I coded a shit ton hehe)
"This is a sabaton refrence"-which is a refrence to real life
And so we come full circle!
“What if Austria-Hungary wasn’t terrible in WW1?”
Also Austria-Hungary: Having to deal with fronts with the Russians, Serbians, Italians and Romanians all at the same time.
2 of those fronts were impassable mountains
romania wasn't a problem
@@rickeymitok2933 Romania was a problem and broke almost instantly through the austrian defenses in the carpathians. They started collapsing after the germans sent tens of thousands of soldiers, along with Von Mackensen, to the southern flank of Romania.
@@999mi999 Thankfully gigachad bulgaria carried the entire front with the dobrudjan campaigns
@@42carlosBulgaria was the weakest in theory, but somehow performed 2nd best. This just shows how doomed Germany was with 2 bad allies
8:21
“We’ve inadvertently created Albania”
-God
6:35 "just to see how strage that country was" says a belgian
"This can't be that hard...right?"
"I may have underestimated how difficult this war was gonna be."
- Franz Joseph
As an italian i can confirm, Italy is the most important member of the entente
lmao
Love your channel, came for the tutorials, stayed for the accent and some of the best hoi4 content out there! Cheers mate!
Thanks so much from austria that you did the austrian empire
*ww1 begins*
Bittersteel:Oh,thats a Sabaton reference!
The Attack of the Dead Men was a real thing my man, Sabaton makes their songs off of real events…
Thank you, somone knows
than in 1916: the imperium strikes back
10:09 "Oh, this is a Sabaton reference"
*Joacim kneebanging intensifies*
austria hungary got to survive, thats all you needed from the peace deal
im glad to see bittersteel doing more mod content, it adds a lot of 'flavour' to this channel's content
Bro really saw “Save Franz Ferdinand” and chose tyranny
i was listening to a sabaton song about ww1 and then you did this wtf
am i blessed?
ps. it was attack of the dead men
For the opening sentence, I want to say my conversations with my family are worse.
...Should probably watch through the video before commenting, but I'm irrationally annoyed by seeing the game describe Austria-Hungary as an "Authoritarian Regime", and was already in a shaky mood, so I feel the need to rant. The empire (and the German Empire too, tbh) was way more decentralised than modern countries. (And what meaning does "authoritarian" have beyond a buzz-word if it doesn't mean "centralised"?) To give an example from both empires;
In WW1, Ludwig III of Bavaria hoped that Bavarian victories in the war would give him leverage in an eventual peace deal to keep Bavaria powerful enough to rival Prussia, to keep Germany from becoming too centralised around Prussia. Even in America, one of the most decentralised western countries (due to the federal system), it'd seem pretty ridiculous for any of the states to have enough power to rival the national government.
And in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Emperor had little enough authority in Hungary that the Hungarians only had to pay taxes to their nobles, who in turn were tax-exempt. Imagine if modern countries just didn't tax ~40% of the population...
"Authoritarian is things I'm told are bad"
Oligarchic authoritarianism
Been waiting to catch a video early. Great one, enjoyed it!
0:00 to 0:05
It isn't one of the most it is the most bloody conflict in all of human history, though not in the amount of deaths but how they died.
Yeah, WWII had more deaths, but they weren't as miserable as dying in the trenches or coughing up your organs from gas
isn't ww2 the most bloody conflict if you count the civilian casualties?
10:10 AND THATS WHEN THE DEAD MEN ARE MARCHING AGAIN
“This can’t be that hard right”
“Oh I underestimated how hard this war is gonna be” -Austria-Hungary, 1914
Bitt3rSteel: Franz Joseph can be proud!
Franz Joseph who wanted Federation not Austrian dominance:
Imagine playing as a Balkan nation: Italy is at war with the Ottomans. The Continent of Europe supports you politically and gives you guns. ( Bulgaria had the same fate as the Ottoman Empire )
despite everyone's thoughts, joseph was a competent kaiser that had very good plans of a federation with equal rights for everyone and he didnt look forward for his holy country to fight the bloodiest war of all time.
Didn't his country got disbanded before the bloodiest war of all time?
@@mobgabriel1767 No.
@@mobgabriel1767Please LEARN history
@@becauseno9375 when i meant the bloodiest war of all time i meant WW2 not WW1, the Áustrian-Hungarian Empire was dissolved after WW1 dude, chill
pov: attack of the dead men was bother a sabaton song and an irl event
Finding out BitterSteel listens to Sabaton is a surprise that made my day.
Thanks for that BitterSteel
I usually play TGWR and I like the effort the devs made!
WW1 "TO THIS MOMENT" is one of the bloodiest conflicts... does this guy know something we don't?
i skipped a few times to skip the intro and got thrown into an anime recap O_o
What’s funny is you had Franz Joseph has your leader and reformed the Austrian empire when he was the technical last emperor of Austrian empire irl
You really deserve more subscribers I love your videos man!
Man i love this mod, and i love your playing! Thanks for all the videos!
"Yeah let's suppress some minorities."
-BitterSteel 2022
MY MAN! 😎👍🏻
Based
I'm a simple man. I see a video of Austria-Hungary, I click it.
I love playing Bulgaria in this mod.
България е силна но проблема е броят на дивизиите.
2:57 *literally everyone*
Autonomous stuff...
I DONT WANNA DO THAT!!!
ahem the attack of the dead men did happen and its not a sabaton reference as it happened
This was fun to watch! :D
0:09 amazing german borders 10/10
yes
The attack of the dead men wasn't just a reference to sabaton it actually happened look it up
5:52 - I feel personaly attacked
You should do The Ottomans in this mod and go down The Third Rome path. Ive done it and its real hard to get the ball rolling (The Balkan War inpreticular) but once you do you are unstoppable especially when you start coring everything.
yeah it's way harder after nsb
Bro you made my Great Great Grandpa go to war not cool🤣. Jk great video
Incredibly anticlimactic peace conference
We inenvirtably created Albania is my favourite quote
Hey if ya haven't done it yet, can you do the Ottoman Empire from this Mod? Try and hold Libya and the Balkans
Hey, von Hotzendorf had awesome hair and an awesome manly mustache. That has to count for something.
10:10 I'm sorry did you just call that a sabaton reference? Sabaton did sing about it but it happened IRL. look it up, it's really cool
Austria Hungary actually had a small colony in China
"This is a Sabaton reference!"
Oh yes, like how Shiroyama and the Night Witches are just Sabaton references xD
Can we get more of this Mod? I really enjoyed this video!
0:08 why? Totally unexpected 😂😂 beautiful* 😂😂👌🏻👌🏻
Finally! Competent A-H.
my favorite hoi4 youtuber :))
Wow, thanks!
@@Bitt3rSteel you are the best bro
I played as germany and austria-hungary capitulated literally 4 months after the great war started. It was on unhistorical tho
I always leave a like if there are timecodes for ads. But you have gone farther - you made actually a bar that indicates length of an ad. Thank you.
Bitter got into the austro-hungarian gameplay
The mod isn't even underrated, but there are just so few videos about it for some reason
first time i have been one of the first 1000 viewers on a vid. another great one bitt3rsteel
I am begging you to play the Ottomans caliphate path
When you play this mod again, make subs. They are incredibly overpowered in this mod. And I mean it. Basically nothing can attack them. Depth charges are a 1917 tech. They just massacre surface ships if you set them to attack at high risk. Normally I don't support sub spam, but it's the only realistic way to beat the British navy is with them
This made me think basically if Austria-Hungay was the strongest in the central powers
Austria Hungary was divided in almost every single way
The Webnovel is really good read is actually high quality translation
GOTT ERHALTE FRANZ DEN KAISER
There is something about Austria-Hungary that unites everyone.
He got 80k lets go I wish I had that much
I donť know if you did it on purpouse,but Franz Joseph was basically holding the empire together
If you just want a division that can cheese the mod, just do 6 infantry with 3 howitzers. Cheap and effective
Great Video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Me as a German boy likes how you say Vereinigte Staaten it sounds really like the language austria-german
All hail the mutton chops! God save the Emperor!
Bro I tuned out for like five seconds and when I came back I was confused as to what some Korean NPC had to do with Austria-Hungary.
I had actually finished reading the legendary Mechanic haha
Super video :).
5:52 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Worldwar one was all about artillery and trenches: Only in the west, where Germany and France had a faceoff. In the east it was verry much mobile maneuver warfare.
oh a sabaton reference💀💀💀
Happy new year
how did you design your basic infantry template? love your content BTW
Just an aside... The novel you talked
about, The Legendary Mrchanic, ic complete at 1463 chapters.
Considering the outcome, I'm guessing this mod doesn't use a contribution score to assess gains/losses when peace is declared.
It uses the claims system to decide who gets what in the main peace deal. If you somehow go to war afterwards, it uses the vanilla contribution score. I played Sweden and I got all of Finland despite joining 3 months before the end of the war.
they need to bring back the unitary monarchy focus.
The attack of the dead men was a real battle in WW1 not just a song
Idea: WW2 but you can't set the AI to auto-capture and you must manage them yourself
He already micros all the time my guy
@@emin166 yeah sure but how about he only micros and none of those offensive line things
@@randomperson774 You can't win the game like that
@@emin166 I mean he can try
the attack of the dead men was a real thing in world war 1 (I'm pretty sure I am right that it actually happened because I heard of it once before)
Yes. It did happen so you are quite right. Its like one of those things you hear about and think "That can't be real" and then you find out it actually happened.
This mod was just purely grinding especially as Germany I wasn't able to move at all till I managed to get cas
"this is a sabaton reference"xD
Would love to see more Great War Redux vids