No need to apologize, Squatch! This kind of content (mystery in history) are what keep quite a section of your viewers hooked. X231 will keep us all guessing until her last bolt and nut. It's a slow-paced, patient journey filled with the unexpected and we're happy to be riding along with you on it!
The reason for the nail is puncture prevention. If the nail is locked away in there it can't cause a puncture. You can justify anything if you try hard enough.
They knew their customer base was cheap old men who knew what size of tractor they needed but then bought one half that size and ran it twice as hard as it was intended for. (AKA my family.)
Toby, I don't think they would have needed the rubber mallet. Those boys were so destructive that both the anvil and the rubber mallet would have crumbled as soon as they laid their hands on them.
See... things were going ALL too well, with Christine. I was wondering why she was giggling in the corner when you were all praising her niceness. Now we know. That's a big wrench straight to the manifold. :))
Squatch, this is a little off the beaten path for you, but not far down the road from where I live, is an old tractor and equipment bone yard called (C.) burgh implement (the 'C.' may have been dropped recently). Anyway, this place has been in the same place for decades and is located on a highway that kinda traces George Washington's youthful treks through western Pennsylvania. So, the route is old and was settled by farmer-settlers hundreds of years ago - and it's still a big Ag area. Acres of old tractors and equipment (including small bulldozers). (Not that GW was into tractors.) Point is, it might be a source for you in your searches for rare parts. burgh implemen, 657 perry ighway, harmony, keystone state
You're doing a great job of plot twists and blind teaser leads on the X231 story. Agatha Cristie would be proud. What a mystery machine!!! Honestly, its very enjoyable to see the crazy goofy stuff that pops up on X231 and other machines. The cotter nail can join your collection next to the beer can bearing shims. Sometimes exceptions and surprises can make for the best memories. Thanks for the video.
Detective work is fun work when the pieces start to fit together. Thought we learn through struggle, we should routinely ask ourselves was the insight worth the pain...and when the answer more often than not is "no", then we should be thinking about our process/inclinations. Looks like you had some less-than-conventional fun.
I had an uncle that believed that if there was a right way to fix something that there had to be a cheaper way to fix it. He had an old Deutz tractor that got passed on to his son. It was a wide front end. There was a LOT of play in the kingpin. When they took it apart to rebuild it they found that my uncle had shimmed it with broken lengths of hacksaw blades.
2:52 Oh man... that's one of the weirdest things ever. My rubber lined hydraulic brakes on my bike have constantly been wearing into my forks. Under all the paneling, i never saw that... until i took them off for cleaning and found a (wait for it) ... 1cm deep V groove into the fork's receiver piece (the one that ties the arms of the forks to the pivoting part, forgot the name). Rubber man... it ate that stainless steel part like nothing. Now, granted, it's probably been doing this for ... i dunno 13~14 years, but still. Luckily i found i before i'd found out about it the other way where you eat dirt. Rubber's a menace!
I think today’s episode is as good as any! It’s indicative of life, reality isn’t seamless. You don’t get to do one thing till you can cross it off the list, you have to juggle and keep all the balls in the air until the stars line up. This is why we like the channel. Stop studying the analytics, I know it’s how you make your living, but be true to your core upbringing!
I searched in the AGCO online parts books and the 10A6544 front pedestal seems to be used all the way thru the G1000 series! X231 strikes again with a mystery!!
funny to see that I'm not the only person with a B&D workmate that perpetually has an extra board clamped in the vise to turn it into a slightly larger workbench.
Amazing how many "later" model parts ended up on x231 to keep it alive, between the hitch, hydraulic pump and the front pedestal.. and lucky you for ending up with a jet star 3 narrow front pedestal without even trying! Not exactly an easy part to just stumble on.
Knowing the era perhaps a young boy modified it by lowering the front making it look cool. "Hey, Betty Sue, come over and see what I did to Dad's tractor; it looks rad?"
Excellent video Squatch 253 (Toby :) ) I say that part took apart and nice touch on nail not cotter key pin ! Also only ever seen Bearings like that broke apart was on my dads Old 1963 McCormick International B414 Loader tractor Desiel motor and 1968 McCormick International 105C combine gas motor plus both were was seized up on steering wheel rims and tires! And was not my dad lack of maintenance was just heat of summer season of 1988 and age too! But was easy get parts for too replacement on and save use from worst problems! Also only seen happen on one other vechiles on Bearing crumble up also break apart in bits of peices! Was on old pick up from 1968 with drum brakes on all 4 wheels!
I wonder if she was used a pulling tractor at one point. Might explain the massive damage to her and the odd pedestal up front. Nose down like it was should help transfer weight and hook better.
You might could check out Bill Williams down in Mississippi, he has acres and acres of mm stuff and ships all over.. wouldn't b surprised if he has some prototypes
Your eye I bet is just twitching after the nail finding. 😮😮😮 “ please put down the nail and step back sir. Every thing will be okay now.!” 😮 a good cup of tea or coffee and take a few minutes in a good chair and think about tractor sounds. 😊
Sounds like they had the prototype for the Jetstar on this farm too. Episodes like this are very valuable, as I'm starting to see the process by which machines were built. My view of how this was done was likely formed by advertising, and involved engineers, draftsmen, and designers in crisp white shirts and dark ties drawing sweeping lines on drawing boards and precisely drawing things out with micrometers. It did not involve shop guys in overalls looking at the tractors they had, and deciding which things needed to be improved, and taking parts off the shelf from older models to build a new tractor that had one or two new systems on it. Every ad back in the day talked about how all new the latest model of something was. I never thought about them having parts from older models in them. I should have done so, after I started working on cars a little, as parts from one vehicle often carry over to others and for several years. That said, I don't think automakers and agricultural equipment makers really want the general public to think about that. How do you convince them to buy a new one if it is 95% the same as the old one? 5
It wouldn't be Christine... Without being Christine! Interesting update. Another reason I love watching this series... Seeing what challenges you have to overcome!
Toby - regarding the wear divots, you've got the welding skills to infill the wear, grind it back to profile and go over with a needle scaler to get the as cast finish - ok you won't have the casting numbers but saves looking for another rusty relic !
If it was the 10X original he would possibly go the repair route. However it is not a prototype piece, it came off a parts machine, with as much as he has going on, and the level of detail he is putting into X231, his time would be better spent finding replacement part that is closer to pristine.
Sherlock Homes could take lessons from you. Impressive to the max. Nice to see you put another nail in the coffin of this demon, by taking out a nail. Did it have a part number?
Dad ran a fleet of Molines in the eighties, G1000, 602, two 5 Stars- all propane fuel. All four had the front wheel cotterpins replaced with nails because the play of the unwashered nut would eventualy cut the cotter pin....normally at a really bad place and time.
Hi Squatch, You are dealing with cast steel Pedestals so you can rebuild the worn spots up and then ground back smooth. Just preheat the Pedestal to "spit dry" and fill her up evenly on both sides with Low Hydrogen Rods. So you are not stuck yet! lol
I can remember when I was a youngster seeing nails used for cotter pins I'm thinking in my uncle's garage on the farm. Those old farmers were resourceful and usually tight with a dollar.
Squatch: Love your quip about breaking an anvil with a rubber mallet. You may enjoy this: someone, probably a city property manager, came up with the perfect firefighter qualification test: lock the candidate for the duration of a duty shift in a padded cell with two bowling balls: if by the end of the time he has broken one and lost the other, he is clearly qualified to be a firefighter. LOL
Me, Id see about farming out the oddball, and I would recondition the pedestal you have - If nothing else, you could at least make yourself a rolling chassis until you find what you want. Given how comparatively easy that assembly seems to be to swap out, I wouldnt let that hold me back. Just a thought though.,
Wouldn't it have been crazy for the X231 pedestal to end up on the 445 parts tractor? Although hard to believe X231 could have survived well enough to be a donor of any parts.
I enjoyed your exploration into the hub mysteries. I found myself laughing as you moved from a nail cotter pin replacement to a bearing that fell apart.t reminded me of the way my Dad would patch together equipment to just keep it running. I hope you can see the humor in the challenges as well. I know there are multiple MM parts available from dealers who sell used parts so I am confident you will find a 445 pedestal. Most of the MM 445's in this area were universal (narrow) front tractors. I am sure Rob Ohda, Mike Tessman or Welters Farm Supply will have salvage front pedestals.
Well I guess they nailed it. Very interesting discovery. Could you use the pictures to scale what size tires were used? Maybe smaller tires were used on the prototype. Good hunting for the parts needed to keep it moving forward.
I think the 3" shorter pedestal was a "hot rod" customisation, combined with larger rear wheels it would have better visibility over the top of the radiator.
You are the best at Industrial archeological investigation. That's part of what makes this channel so darn interesting. Another great episode. I thought it was stellar. Not everyday goes to plan but they are still interesting nevertheless. I look forward to the day you upload daily. ;)
And now internet search begins for the ever elusive 10Xxxxx Rockford Cotter nails. 😊 Which leads to my next question. If MM installed whatever parts they had lying around on the testing grounds when the prototype parts failed, wouldn't those replacements be more genuine or authentic to the prototype than a correctly fitting production piece? Like I said before, I love how this project forces me think. Thanks.
Curve ball to say the least! lol Would have loved to have seen your reaction, when you figured out everything you thought you had was wrong- talk about taking the wind out of a guys sails!! haha
Do you think they made the shorter pedestal work with taller tires ? Just a thought. Not saying you should but it could have given the correct stance . I love this stuff ha ha
They were having an issue with X231 pulling wheelies on the proving grounds, so they decided to lower the front end to shift the center of gravity forward..... 🤣
This is just one more example of how badly that poor Minnie has been abused. Her past is so full of patch jobs just to get her running enough to beat her to death again that she hasn't been able to trust you. She'll be nice once she realizes how nice you are going to be to her.
Well it is nice to see some forward progress! You may not think as much but I think so. I do not remember but Did the front bolster have a 10x number on it? I do not think it would be likely that the bolster was from something else as the grill all seemed to fit in with it. But could have both front and rear tires from a jet star been put on it or different rear tires so as to keep the tractor some what level?
Very interesting it appears both inner and outer bearings are same also not much of a seal maybe you can find a seal that drives on spindle and seals in hub wear ring also do you know what size tires were on the rear that should help figure out if long pedestal is needed
Yep both wheel bearings are the same, I even checked the parts book to make sure 👍 The original rear tire size was the old 11-38, which would cross to the modern 12.4-38 now.
Excellent video. I would say it definitely needs to have the tall pedestal to sit level and especially to make the 3 point hitch work properly. Have you dug into the 3 point hitch assembly and seat assembly I don't recall of much talk about that other than the prototype 3 point being missing. Keep up the great videos. There is a guy near Jordan Mn Chris Quatman I believe is his name that is parting out a bunch of Minneapolis Moline tractors
I haven’t yet started on the 3-point lift system yet, I have everything in place for it but been waiting until after I’ve got the tractor on 4 wheels because of the weight it’ll add. I also know Chris well, we’ve been buying and selling M-M parts for years 👍
Thanks for the video Toby! It’s a bummer on the spindle but like you said nothing surprises us on Old Christine. Hope you can find one to get the project rolling again soon. Can’t wait for the next video!
I have an idea. Maybe not a great one but it is a ‘make do’ option. JB Weld steel putty is what I have been using to make stand off flats for DROs on my mill and lathe. It has worked well for me to build up an area on cast iron that curves. There is another TH-camr called Pask who has a video on Faux cast lettering that might let you put those numbers back on the pedestal. Again, not a perfect solution but an option if need be.
Maybe they wanted to (or had to) run taller tires at some point, so to keep the frame level they ran a shorter column. Or they wanted it lower in the front for better aerodynamics on tractor pull day.
No need to apologize, Squatch! This kind of content (mystery in history) are what keep quite a section of your viewers hooked. X231 will keep us all guessing until her last bolt and nut. It's a slow-paced, patient journey filled with the unexpected and we're happy to be riding along with you on it!
Definitely fascinating. I can't believe how many times I've watched this episode.
I'll bet that you walked past the appropriate pedestal at the swap meet and thought to yourself "I don't have a use for one of those"!
lol it’s very likely that actually happened! 😂
The nail was a nice touch. I guess you wouldn't expect anything less on X231, huh? Thanks for the video, Squatch.
Hey - a pin's a pin...
The reason for the nail is puncture prevention. If the nail is locked away in there it can't cause a puncture.
You can justify anything if you try hard enough.
Kubota Bead Breaker - Right tool for the right job!
I just thought to myself that’s a right bead breaker 😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve done that trick many times with my backhoe…
Squach quote: Referring to the prototype farm, “Those boys could break an anvil with a rubber mallet if you let them”!
They knew their customer base was cheap old men who knew what size of tractor they needed but then bought one half that size and ran it twice as hard as it was intended for. (AKA my family.)
..... Yep... In the same genre' as "They cut it twice and it's still too short...."
Toby, I don't think they would have needed the rubber mallet. Those boys were so destructive that both the anvil and the rubber mallet would have crumbled as soon as they laid their hands on them.
So heartwarming that you put X231 on a pedestal.
See... things were going ALL too well, with Christine. I was wondering why she was giggling in the corner when you were all praising her niceness. Now we know. That's a big wrench straight to the manifold. :))
X231....the Mystery Mistress
Nails and Bailing wire AKA Granddad's Duct tape.
Not a problem with the content. Always enjoy whatever you have to offer.
Squatch, this is a little off the beaten path for you, but not far down the road from where I live, is an old tractor and equipment bone yard called (C.) burgh implement (the 'C.' may have been dropped recently). Anyway, this place has been in the same place for decades and is located on a highway that kinda traces George Washington's youthful treks through western Pennsylvania. So, the route is old and was settled by farmer-settlers hundreds of years ago - and it's still a big Ag area. Acres of old tractors and equipment (including small bulldozers). (Not that GW was into tractors.) Point is, it might be a source for you in your searches for rare parts. burgh implemen, 657 perry ighway, harmony, keystone state
In your review of the Kubota last week, you forgot to cover the tire changing attachment! :) :) :)
If the tractor is 3” low at the front, you have the advantage of plowing “downhill” all of the time! :-)
Better fuel burn too
You're doing a great job of plot twists and blind teaser leads on the X231 story. Agatha Cristie would be proud. What a mystery machine!!! Honestly, its very enjoyable to see the crazy goofy stuff that pops up on X231 and other machines. The cotter nail can join your collection next to the beer can bearing shims. Sometimes exceptions and surprises can make for the best memories. Thanks for the video.
Farm-fixes at their finest. 😂
Detective work is fun work when the pieces start to fit together. Thought we learn through struggle, we should routinely ask ourselves was the insight worth the pain...and when the answer more often than not is "no", then we should be thinking about our process/inclinations. Looks like you had some less-than-conventional fun.
I had an uncle that believed that if there was a right way to fix something that there had to be a cheaper way to fix it. He had an old Deutz tractor that got passed on to his son. It was a wide front end. There was a LOT of play in the kingpin. When they took it apart to rebuild it they found that my uncle had shimmed it with broken lengths of hacksaw blades.
That was my family. Zero maintenance meant zero operating costs.
The hold-ups are just the way real shop work can go, especially restoring vintage equipment. No problem.
2:52 Oh man... that's one of the weirdest things ever. My rubber lined hydraulic brakes on my bike have constantly been wearing into my forks. Under all the paneling, i never saw that... until i took them off for cleaning and found a (wait for it) ... 1cm deep V groove into the fork's receiver piece (the one that ties the arms of the forks to the pivoting part, forgot the name). Rubber man... it ate that stainless steel part like nothing. Now, granted, it's probably been doing this for ... i dunno 13~14 years, but still. Luckily i found i before i'd found out about it the other way where you eat dirt. Rubber's a menace!
when it comes to a basket case project like X231, one can never have too many parts tractors
I think today’s episode is as good as any! It’s indicative of life, reality isn’t seamless. You don’t get to do one thing till you can cross it off the list, you have to juggle and keep all the balls in the air until the stars line up. This is why we like the channel. Stop studying the analytics, I know it’s how you make your living, but be true to your core upbringing!
X231 - This tractor is a brain teaser!
X231 continues to create “issues”.
What a joy, torque stop lug bolts.
“The any tire that works program” 😂😂😂
I searched in the AGCO online parts books and the 10A6544 front pedestal seems to be used all the way thru the G1000 series! X231 strikes again with a mystery!!
funny to see that I'm not the only person with a B&D workmate that perpetually has an extra board clamped in the vise to turn it into a slightly larger workbench.
Amazing how many "later" model parts ended up on x231 to keep it alive, between the hitch, hydraulic pump and the front pedestal.. and lucky you for ending up with a jet star 3 narrow front pedestal without even trying! Not exactly an easy part to just stumble on.
every one should have a tire machine like that they are handy🤣
I can’t remember the last time I saw Toby use an impact wrench!
Knowing the era perhaps a young boy modified it by lowering the front making it look cool. "Hey, Betty Sue, come over and see what I did to Dad's tractor; it looks rad?"
Excellent video Squatch 253 (Toby :) ) I say that part took apart and nice touch on nail not cotter key pin ! Also only ever seen Bearings like that broke apart was on my dads Old 1963 McCormick International B414 Loader tractor Desiel motor and 1968 McCormick International 105C combine gas motor plus both were was seized up on steering wheel rims and tires! And was not my dad lack of maintenance was just heat of summer season of 1988 and age too! But was easy get parts for too replacement on and save use from worst problems! Also only seen happen on one other vechiles on Bearing crumble up also break apart in bits of peices! Was on old pick up from 1968 with drum brakes on all 4 wheels!
That was probably a used nail from an old fence post or something!
I enjoyed watching the bead breaker in action. Those old tires can't say "No" to that bead breaker. 😂
I wonder if she was used a pulling tractor at one point. Might explain the massive damage to her and the odd pedestal up front. Nose down like it was should help transfer weight and hook better.
As soon as I hear the 10A pedestal number, I knew it was wrong.
You might could check out Bill Williams down in Mississippi, he has acres and acres of mm stuff and ships all over.. wouldn't b surprised if he has some prototypes
Interestinger, and more Interestinger... 21:35 the search continues
We have a local shop down here in Southern MN that has a small yard with older Minneapolis Moline tractors. Might have some parts you want.
Your eye I bet is just twitching after the nail finding. 😮😮😮 “ please put down the nail and step back sir. Every thing will be okay now.!” 😮 a good cup of tea or coffee and take a few minutes in a good chair and think about tractor sounds. 😊
Sounds like they had the prototype for the Jetstar on this farm too. Episodes like this are very valuable, as I'm starting to see the process by which machines were built. My view of how this was done was likely formed by advertising, and involved engineers, draftsmen, and designers in crisp white shirts and dark ties drawing sweeping lines on drawing boards and precisely drawing things out with micrometers. It did not involve shop guys in overalls looking at the tractors they had, and deciding which things needed to be improved, and taking parts off the shelf from older models to build a new tractor that had one or two new systems on it. Every ad back in the day talked about how all new the latest model of something was. I never thought about them having parts from older models in them. I should have done so, after I started working on cars a little, as parts from one vehicle often carry over to others and for several years. That said, I don't think automakers and agricultural equipment makers really want the general public to think about that. How do you convince them to buy a new one if it is 95% the same as the old one?
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It wouldn't be Christine... Without being Christine! Interesting update. Another reason I love watching this series... Seeing what challenges you have to overcome!
X231: _About time I make you sweat buckets again..._
Toby - regarding the wear divots, you've got the welding skills to infill the wear, grind it back to profile and go over with a needle scaler to get the as cast finish - ok you won't have the casting numbers but saves looking for another rusty relic !
That would be awesome to see him restore the worn pedestal!
If it was the 10X original he would possibly go the repair route. However it is not a prototype piece, it came off a parts machine, with as much as he has going on, and the level of detail he is putting into X231, his time would be better spent finding replacement part that is closer to pristine.
Cool a tractor and a rake with rake.
Stubborn bolt comes loose.
Squatch, almost like a cartoon character, "Heh hewww."
Not steps back, maybe sideways!
Love your videos
Sherlock Homes could take lessons from you. Impressive to the max. Nice to see you put another nail in the coffin of this demon, by taking out a nail. Did it have a part number?
Dad ran a fleet of Molines in the eighties, G1000, 602, two 5 Stars- all propane fuel. All four had the front wheel cotterpins replaced with nails because the play of the unwashered nut would eventualy cut the cotter pin....normally at a really bad place and time.
Hi Squatch, You are dealing with cast steel Pedestals so you can rebuild the worn spots up and then ground back smooth. Just preheat the Pedestal to "spit dry" and fill her up evenly on both sides with Low Hydrogen Rods. So you are not stuck yet! lol
I think that if he fills in those worn out spots he won't use a grinder to smooth it out. He will build a jig so he can mill it smooth.
I can remember when I was a youngster seeing nails used for cotter pins I'm thinking in my uncle's garage on the farm. Those old farmers were resourceful and usually tight with a dollar.
I wouldn't waste a good shiney nail as a cotter pin when some old fence wire would work better.
That's clearly cheating using a backhoe for a tire iron! Maybe the pedestal is from a 335 or a JetStar3?
Yep I showed the picture of the JetStar3 around the middle of the episode 👍
My Dad used to tell me I could tear up a ball bearing with a toothpick and have a perfect toothpick left over!
I never heard that one before, but I like it! 👍😂
@@squatch253
Feel free to use it then!
I also got “You could destroy a Sherman tank with a rubber mallet” a lot.
The wear that tire created on the pedestal is impressive. My OCD wants to cleanup all those parts.
Squatch: Love your quip about breaking an anvil with a rubber mallet. You may enjoy this: someone, probably a city property manager, came up with the perfect firefighter qualification test: lock the candidate for the duration of a duty shift in a padded cell with two bowling balls: if by the end of the time he has broken one and lost the other, he is clearly qualified to be a firefighter. LOL
I've always heard that you don't have to be crazy to be a mechanic, but it sure helps.
Me, Id see about farming out the oddball, and I would recondition the pedestal you have - If nothing else, you could at least make yourself a rolling chassis until you find what you want. Given how comparatively easy that assembly seems to be to swap out, I wouldnt let that hold me back. Just a thought though.,
Well, this will work.I'll just throw that on.😊 lol
Thanks for the video, Squatch
Hard to believe X-231 had been repaired by a neanderthal and unhelpful with her rebuild 😅
Wouldn't it have been crazy for the X231 pedestal to end up on the 445 parts tractor? Although hard to believe X231 could have survived well enough to be a donor of any parts.
I enjoyed your exploration into the hub mysteries. I found myself laughing as you moved from a nail cotter pin replacement to a bearing that fell apart.t reminded me of the way my Dad would patch together equipment to just keep it running. I hope you can see the humor in the challenges as well. I know there are multiple MM parts available from dealers who sell used parts so I am confident you will find a 445 pedestal. Most of the MM 445's in this area were universal (narrow) front tractors. I am sure Rob Ohda, Mike Tessman or Welters Farm Supply will have salvage front pedestals.
X 231 is fighting you like a (Dentist and a Cobbler) Tooth and Nail. Good luck on the hunt for a replacement pedestal.
Doesn’t really matter what the next video is about. We’re all gonna watch it anyway
Welter's Farm Supply in Verona Missouri would probably have a good 445 front pedestal for you. They are big in Minneapolis Moline tractor salvage.
They’re the ones that sold me all of the new engine parts that I used when I rebuilt X231’s engine 👍
I worked on a car that was on a small island, the wheels had rusted so bad they had became one with the drum and axle
🎶 Oh this is the mystery that never ends
It goes on and on my friends🎶
🥸👍👀✅
Well I guess they nailed it. Very interesting discovery. Could you use the pictures to scale what size tires were used? Maybe smaller tires were used on the prototype. Good hunting for the parts needed to keep it moving forward.
At least you can make it a roller until you find a suitable replacement.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for another X231 video!
Hey I'm a carpenter. Next time you see Mr bork give it to him and he send it my way. Never have enough nails. Or is it cotter pins. Haha
Just when you think that nothing else onX231 can surprise you it goes HOLD MY BEER!!!
Cletus: "Daddy! I lost the cotter pin on this here barrin!" Daddy: "Just drive a nail in 'er! Gotta get to plowin!" What can I say!!!
I think the 3" shorter pedestal was a "hot rod" customisation, combined with larger rear wheels it would have better visibility over the top of the radiator.
Nice bead breaker
I really love that tire bead separator you've got!
You are the best at Industrial archeological investigation. That's part of what makes this channel so darn interesting. Another great episode. I thought it was stellar. Not everyday goes to plan but they are still interesting nevertheless. I look forward to the day you upload daily. ;)
This was a great episode
At least they didn’t weld the castle nut
And now internet search begins for the ever elusive 10Xxxxx Rockford Cotter nails. 😊
Which leads to my next question. If MM installed whatever parts they had lying around on the testing grounds when the prototype parts failed, wouldn't those replacements be more genuine or authentic to the prototype than a correctly fitting production piece? Like I said before, I love how this project forces me think. Thanks.
Hellava Bead Breaker. Been there.
Curve ball to say the least! lol Would have loved to have seen your reaction, when you figured out everything you thought you had was wrong- talk about taking the wind out of a guys sails!! haha
The honest true-to-reality reaction involved puzzled looks and a LOT of expletives lol 😂 🤦🏻♂️😂
@@squatch253 Did you go full Rick Bork?
Those rims looked extraordinary wide. Automotive?
Christine was fighting today,and by the way I like your bead breaker from the looks of the rust you needed it.
Do you think they made the shorter pedestal work with taller tires ? Just a thought. Not saying you should but it could have given the correct stance . I love this stuff ha ha
X231............the old "dangling carrot" trick. But X231 is dangling the carrot in front of Toby.
They were having an issue with X231 pulling wheelies on the proving grounds, so they decided to lower the front end to shift the center of gravity forward..... 🤣
Yesterday tractors has a queery looking for 10A22861 short pedistal for a Jetstar 3. Using 12” rims.
Well one good take away is you know what length pedistol ole Christine needs now to be whole again. Now for the adventure of finding a good one.
This is just one more example of how badly that poor Minnie has been abused. Her past is so full of patch jobs just to get her running enough to beat her to death again that she hasn't been able to trust you. She'll be nice once she realizes how nice you are going to be to her.
X231 gets a like before the video even starts 😂
Well it is nice to see some forward progress! You may not think as much but I think so. I do not remember but Did the front bolster have a 10x number on it? I do not think it would be likely that the bolster was from something else as the grill all seemed to fit in with it. But could have both front and rear tires from a jet star been put on it or different rear tires so as to keep the tractor some what level?
Yes, the bolster is a “10X” casting 👍
Check with Moline Dan. I bet you guys can work out a trade. He's got a lot of jet stars he needs parts for
Very interesting it appears both inner and outer bearings are same also not much of a seal maybe you can find a seal that drives on spindle and seals in hub wear ring also do you know what size tires were on the rear that should help figure out if long pedestal is needed
Yep both wheel bearings are the same, I even checked the parts book to make sure 👍 The original rear tire size was the old 11-38, which would cross to the modern 12.4-38 now.
My grandpa said “that boy could tare up a crow bar in a sand pile”.
Excellent video. I would say it definitely needs to have the tall pedestal to sit level and especially to make the 3 point hitch work properly. Have you dug into the 3 point hitch assembly and seat assembly I don't recall of much talk about that other than the prototype 3 point being missing. Keep up the great videos. There is a guy near Jordan Mn Chris Quatman I believe is his name that is parting out a bunch of Minneapolis Moline tractors
I haven’t yet started on the 3-point lift system yet, I have everything in place for it but been waiting until after I’ve got the tractor on 4 wheels because of the weight it’ll add. I also know Chris well, we’ve been buying and selling M-M parts for years 👍
@squatch253 that makes sense not to add the extra weight to the back end
Gotta love free tires even if they are too big…. lol.
And the Plot thickens!!!!!😂😂
Thanks for the video Toby! It’s a bummer on the spindle but like you said nothing surprises us on Old Christine. Hope you can find one to get the project rolling again soon. Can’t wait for the next video!
HEY ! ! Nails WORK. Don't knock it. 😁 Not professional grade, but it will work.
I have an idea. Maybe not a great one but it is a ‘make do’ option. JB Weld steel putty is what I have been using to make stand off flats for DROs on my mill and lathe. It has worked well for me to build up an area on cast iron that curves. There is another TH-camr called Pask who has a video on Faux cast lettering that might let you put those numbers back on the pedestal. Again, not a perfect solution but an option if need be.
Maybe they wanted to (or had to) run taller tires at some point, so to keep the frame level they ran a shorter column.
Or they wanted it lower in the front for better aerodynamics on tractor pull day.
Nice video been following you all the way well done man