i try to find those ray guns in the google patent but could not find it at all.is it possible that you or someone else can send me the link to those what you engraved there as push sticks.those are my favorites
Aside from the "how to paint wood grain with spray paint" from a few years ago, this is one of the most informative videos you've ever put out. I really appreciate it.
It's tough to move past ingenious ideas that are somehow more trouble than they're worth. Glad you found an even better solution in Production than barreling on ahead like I would!
Very nice push sticks! That compression bit is really cool, too! Especially since you can just eliminate the tabs (at least for birch plywood of this thickness).
I love your sharing about the process. I did notice one thing that could be useful for the next batch, or for version #2. If you use the laser first, and do all the engraving, then use the CNC to cut them out, you can save work on material handling, and you could if you want engrave both sides, then cut out after. I do love the Ray Guns. It's a shame there isn't something that you could make the trigger operate.
It can be more difficult to accurately align things going the other way. This way, I don't have to worry about getting the sheet aligned perfectly on the CNC.
Nice project! Now, make another laser file with the artwork mirrored (but the text normal), flip the fixture piece and laser the graphics on the backside of all the pieces 👍
Thanks! But do you think most people even see the back side enough to justify doubling the laser time and adding another alignment step? The engraving is already the longest step.
amazing to see your momentum and creativity rolling on forwards, possible production tweak not sure you thought about it this way? could you not laser the Graphics first as one solid sheet with alignment/registration holes to then transfer the whole sheet to the router to cut the profiles out ? save you the hassle of the tabs vs no tabs? Onwards and upwards for the holidays
Thanks! If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run. And it's nearly impossible to screw up placing the blanks in the fixture.
Man i think i fell in love with those sticks. Wish i could get them here in germany for a decent price. Maybe im going to try to cut and engrave a similar one on my DIY CNC. Great work mate.
@@WesleyTreat That's when I'm supposed to bemoan the fact that tools are almost never designed with left-handed people in mind. That being said, I'll probably hang my retro push guns on the wall of my workshop. They're too nice to risk on the table saw. That's what my fingies are for.
These look fantastic. As always, incredibly artful and nerdy and just plain cool! One, slight, drawback though. Your hand is a lot closer to the blade with the raygun pushstick than the original (but boring) triangle pushstick. I wonder if there is a cool old raygun design that would keep the grip part nearer to the "top" of the triangle?
Thanks! The handle is lower than on that old one, yes, but as long as you have your blade adjusted correctly, you should be clear. I also added just a bit of height to the base after the video was done. 👍
@@WesleyTreat Nice. Being a total newbie, having used a tablesaw a grand total of once, they scare the heck out of me, so I tend to notice how close to the blade people's hands get
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to perfectly align the sheet on the router. I only have to align the laser fixture.
@@richardjm I do, but it's just for quick placement. If I reversed the process, I'd have to make sure it's absolutely square with the router and that the home position is perfectly set with the corner to be within my 1/16" registration tolerance.
Do I own a tablesaw? ... No Do I even have a shop for a tablesaw? ... Again, no Why in the world do I need ray gun push sticks? ... Hey, the heart wants what it wants, man.
Double the time in the laser, which is already the bottleneck, and the way a push stick is used 99% of the time, you don't see the other side, anyway. Thanks!
@@WesleyTreat make sense, although i occasionally use my push sticks with my left hand. More importantly, though, we all know pointing it at stuff and going, "Pew! Pew!" is a requirement!
Some questions I had from your old raygun video and this one: Since the patents are old, do you renew them? Would you be annoyed if anyone else started doing this as your competition if you don't renew the patent yourself?
You can't renew someone else's expired patent. Besides, I'm making use only of the illustrations from the published patent documents themselves, which by their nature are public domain. (That actually gets a little trickier since it's a design patent, but it's moot, anyway, since it expired decades ago.) kindsvater.com/patent-copyright.html
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines, so the registration matches. That would actually mean adding a fixture. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
Sorry, I misread your question with my previous answer. If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run.
Couldn't you mirror the lower right push-gun and get a 7th one in? It would be reversed but... No one would know without comparing... Lucky reversed number 7... ;-)😊
If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run. And it's nearly impossible to screw up placing the blanks in the fixture.
There are all these people, adults even, out there who have *tiny* hands for a man. Because they're not men. But I'm sure they never do any woodworking, so let's just have "smallish men's size" and "normal, large men's size" ones.
Use code *WESLEYTREAT50* to get *50% off* your first Factor box at bit.ly/3q72RNV!
i try to find those ray guns in the google patent but could not find it at all.is it possible that you or someone else can send me the link to those what you engraved there as push sticks.those are my favorites
Aside from the "how to paint wood grain with spray paint" from a few years ago, this is one of the most informative videos you've ever put out. I really appreciate it.
Really appreciate you taking thru your thinking and problem solving on this!! THAT is well worth the price of admission! Thanks Wesley!!
Your videos are a real TREAT WESLEY!
Great film and information. Mahalo for sharing! 🙏❤️🙂
This makes me wish I had a table saw to use these with. Not a fancy sawstop though, I want your old saw with the bubble noises.
Awesome product idea. I know just the friend who will love these. Thanks for providing the solution to one gift for a friend.
Thanks, I hope they enjoy them!
It's tough to move past ingenious ideas that are somehow more trouble than they're worth. Glad you found an even better solution in Production than barreling on ahead like I would!
Ordered a set of magnets right away. They will compliment my laser cut ray gun nicely. Thanks for sharing your process!
Thank you!
After the holidays, I’m gonna rip through that test!
These look great! This is the content I am here for, problem-solving and fun!
Thanks!
Top notch 👍👍😎👍👍
16:56 can relate
Wow, Wesley, this is a great idea AND execution! Well done!
I think we all love compression bits! Very interesting design Wesley!
Thank you
Love the walkthrough of your process.
You could put the pic on both side.cut tab at end. Way cool to have pic on both sides. Its just a mirro of image
I did buy a pair of these and i do make "Pew pew" sounds when I am using them. Thanks for making cutting and saving my fingers more fun.
Enjoyed that one. Next year Sputnik holiday ornaments!
That's been on my list for years. I started one a long time ago, but couldn't make it efficient. Might have to try again.
So wonderful, Wesley! Thanks for sharing your process and of course, I’m in for a set. Scott
Thanks!
Very nice push sticks!
That compression bit is really cool, too!
Especially since you can just eliminate the tabs (at least for birch plywood of this thickness).
Iterating the process is also a favorite pastime of mine!
The laser machine sounds exactly like the old school dot printers. Takes me back to my first job selling auto parts.
I worked at a news station almost 25 years ago and we had several running at once that printed out the hard copies of the scripts.
I love your sharing about the process. I did notice one thing that could be useful for the next batch, or for version #2. If you use the laser first, and do all the engraving, then use the CNC to cut them out, you can save work on material handling, and you could if you want engrave both sides, then cut out after.
I do love the Ray Guns. It's a shame there isn't something that you could make the trigger operate.
It can be more difficult to accurately align things going the other way. This way, I don't have to worry about getting the sheet aligned perfectly on the CNC.
Nice project! Now, make another laser file with the artwork mirrored (but the text normal), flip the fixture piece and laser the graphics on the backside of all the pieces 👍
Thanks! But do you think most people even see the back side enough to justify doubling the laser time and adding another alignment step? The engraving is already the longest step.
@@WesleyTreat You may be right. On the other hand, there's justification for Thunder to send you a second machine ;)
Love this process! At what point did you determine demand in order to go into production mode?
amazing to see your momentum and creativity rolling on forwards, possible production tweak not sure you thought about it this way? could you not laser the Graphics first as one solid sheet with alignment/registration holes to then transfer the whole sheet to the router to cut the profiles out ? save you the hassle of the tabs vs no tabs? Onwards and upwards for the holidays
Thanks! If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run. And it's nearly impossible to screw up placing the blanks in the fixture.
Your big brain is awesome!
Man i think i fell in love with those sticks. Wish i could get them here in germany for a decent price. Maybe im going to try to cut and engrave a similar one on my DIY CNC. Great work mate.
Email me through my website and I'll see what the shipping cost would be.
Wesley's using lasers to make lasers again. No surprises here. (They look great! Very clever!)
Thanks!
My brain is wondering how comfortable the square edges are on the handle. The push sticks and magnets look like great gift ideas.
I don't mind it, but feel free to customize them to suit your needs! 👍
I think it would be really cool if these were engraved on both sides. More time in the laser, but I think it would make for a better product.
I considered it, but it fully doubles the laser time, and you'd hardly ever see that side, anyway.
@@WesleyTreat That's when I'm supposed to bemoan the fact that tools are almost never designed with left-handed people in mind. That being said, I'll probably hang my retro push guns on the wall of my workshop. They're too nice to risk on the table saw. That's what my fingies are for.
They are beautiful Wesley!! I absolutely love all your atomic projects ❤
The front push tip should be the same angle as the one on the back.
Dude! I love your stuff. Great videos. Always enjoyable.
Doesn't look like the safest tool to use but it does have the cool factor.
How so? It's a very common safety device for ripping material on a table saw.
I can’t stop smiling.. damn you Wesley!
I love these.
These look fantastic. As always, incredibly artful and nerdy and just plain cool!
One, slight, drawback though. Your hand is a lot closer to the blade with the raygun pushstick than the original (but boring) triangle pushstick. I wonder if there is a cool old raygun design that would keep the grip part nearer to the "top" of the triangle?
Thanks! The handle is lower than on that old one, yes, but as long as you have your blade adjusted correctly, you should be clear. I also added just a bit of height to the base after the video was done. 👍
@@WesleyTreat Nice. Being a total newbie, having used a tablesaw a grand total of once, they scare the heck out of me, so I tend to notice how close to the blade people's hands get
My God, I laughed way too hard at "Too many F(beep)ing steps"
Could you laser engrave them first, then route them out after that?
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
It murders you... Or even worse, breaks the machine.
😂
Would it make sense to engrave first, and cut it out after its already engraved?
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
Why not laser engrave first then CNC cut? That way you just move the sheet in one piece from one tool to the next?
If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to perfectly align the sheet on the router. I only have to align the laser fixture.
Oh I thought you had a frame for aligning on the router at one point.
@@richardjm I do, but it's just for quick placement. If I reversed the process, I'd have to make sure it's absolutely square with the router and that the home position is perfectly set with the corner to be within my 1/16" registration tolerance.
Do I own a tablesaw? ... No
Do I even have a shop for a tablesaw? ... Again, no
Why in the world do I need ray gun push sticks? ... Hey, the heart wants what it wants, man.
Couldnt you laser the graphics first and then cut?
You could, but it doesn't really eliminate any steps. Plus, it's much easier to get accurate alignment this way.
if you are using the same file for cutting and the Laser, why not Laser the board first the put it on the CNC to cut it out?
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Just take all my $$$. Truly excellent content, as always. (If only it were an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.)
👍👍
I didn't see a "poor man's laser cutter" anywhere in the video
Porters mk2 mayb
They look cool, but, is there a reason you didn't make them with 2-sided graphics?
Double the time in the laser, which is already the bottleneck, and the way a push stick is used 99% of the time, you don't see the other side, anyway. Thanks!
@@WesleyTreat make sense, although i occasionally use my push sticks with my left hand. More importantly, though, we all know pointing it at stuff and going, "Pew! Pew!" is a requirement!
Did you saying PEW-PEW while cutting?
Some questions I had from your old raygun video and this one: Since the patents are old, do you renew them? Would you be annoyed if anyone else started doing this as your competition if you don't renew the patent yourself?
You can't renew someone else's expired patent. Besides, I'm making use only of the illustrations from the published patent documents themselves, which by their nature are public domain. (That actually gets a little trickier since it's a design patent, but it's moot, anyway, since it expired decades ago.)
kindsvater.com/patent-copyright.html
hi man in a shed absolutely spiffing video again
A thing has to:
1: Work
2: Be comfortable
3: Look good.
Wes, are you not comfortable?
Never
I’m eating chickie nuggies with my fingies while watching this video
Cool.!
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You could have done the laser first, saves a jig
If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines, so the registration matches. That would actually mean adding a fixture. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture.
I love your stuff, but I will stick to my scrap wood push stick. Your worth every penny, I just can’t afford you.
Tried to order but the website would not let me.
Can you be more specific? I can try to help.
16:01 LoFi Girl
why not laser then cut???
Sorry, I misread your question with my previous answer. If I laser before cutting, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run.
Why not just cut on the CNC face down, then you only have to flip it once?
That was the idea. But now I don't have to flip it at all.
Why was the thumbnail changed?
No one was clicking on it, so it was time to try something different.
Couldn't you mirror the lower right push-gun and get a 7th one in? It would be reversed but... No one would know without comparing... Lucky reversed number 7... ;-)😊
I spent hours trying to fit more in. It always looks like there's room, but there isn't. 🤷♂️
Where are you getting your baltic birch? I thought that stuff had become pretty much impossible to find with all the Russian shenanigans.
A year ago, it was incredibly expensive, but it's gone back down to old prices again
Why not laser the image first then router them out? I would think that would be simpler.
If I go the other way, I have to accurately align the sheet on both machines. This way, I don't have to align the sheet on the router; I only have to align the laser fixture, and only one time for the whole run. And it's nearly impossible to screw up placing the blanks in the fixture.
There are all these people, adults even, out there who have *tiny* hands for a man. Because they're not men. But I'm sure they never do any woodworking, so let's just have "smallish men's size" and "normal, large men's size" ones.
😂👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻