What's up guys, hope you enjoyed our latest video! Here is a link to another arm throw video that demonstrates how to use a dummy to train your throws. Enjoy! th-cam.com/video/2Gd75LxVG-g/w-d-xo.html
I hear what your saying but just to give some clarity to John's point I think John was more concerned with someone countering with instant hooks and turning your 2 on one into a seat belt.
Yes I understand his point and it is taken but every move has drawbacks when done improperly. What I didn’t say is the ankle pick has drawbacks as well that he didn’t discuss. It may make for a good future video with all due respect. 🤙
@@neongamer721 It means you can take this sort of treatment for hours. I used to be the go to Uke for my instructors to throw around and demo anything. So yes you can get used to this. I agree everyone will eventually tire or hit fatigue - but it would be much longer than what we saw in this video for a fit experienced Uke.
@nomadic potato This video is overrated because they don't have any defence from punching in this video, it's all well and good being able to throw someone, but there's plenty of moments where he'd be eating fists to the face.
@nomadic potato I prefer to learn for the purpose of self defence, tournament sports, while fun, are rarely useful in real world scenarios. They find a practical use for this in their sport, that's great, but they need to clarify that these techniques have a high probability of failure in a real fight. You assume just because I play video games, after you stalked my channel, that means I have no real world experience. You're sorely mistaken. Also, it's Battlefield, not battleground, I don't play that battle royale fad shit. Side note, I think you don't have a clear grasp of the terms overrated and underrated.
@nomadic potato I haven't missed the point, I know what you're saying, which you are just repeating again and again. But what I am saying is, these tournaments are pointless, when they have no real world application. What good is it, being able to throw someone who's getting into position for you to throw them, when you could be learning to throw someone, who's trying to prevent you from throwing them using every ability they have. It's like Larping. Humanity loves to make rules and regulations, suffocating individuals with society. "Trying to sell a game of rules and pretend, in a world where you can only own what you can defend." - Greydon Square Nature could easily come along and bite these tournament winners in the arse one day, say a black belt tournament judo champion, gets cornered in an alleyway by a group of men with knives and clubs. I bet you, when the group of men are done, and the champion is bleeding out in the alley, he looks back and wishes he'd learned how to defend himself properly, instead of playing make believe. It's a harsh reality, and one many would balk from, but I'd personally only want to train for reality, over training to get some crappy trophies that are useless weight.
John Danaher's point (remember he was marketing his instructional) was not that throws in which you turn your back to your opponent don't work in Jiu Jitsu, rather that they take more expertise and training to do well and safely. His stated goal was to teach techniques that he could have beginners hitting reliably in a few months. I would agree with him in that, whether coaching Wrestling or Jiu Jitsu, Arm Throws are not among the first things I teach beginners. For one with the mobility and body mechanics, however, they can be very efficient throws and are among my personal favorites. Well worth learning to do well.
Point taken. My last thought is that moves aren’t equal for everybody. Some people “adapt” to moves easier than others. For some an arm throw is their easiest and most effective technique, for others it’s an ankle pick. If everyone works on their ankle picks because John said to, it just makes ankle picks harder to pull off and arm throws easier. I would promote all effective techniques.
I think part of John’s point also had to do with the risk of a failed attempt putting you in a very bad position. Especially for beginners. (Like me 😉) failed ankle pick? No big deal. Failed throw? I’m getting choked out.
Another thing to consider is that You don’t need to get the joke right away. While holding the arm and wrist helps prevent the choke from being put on, it won’t always prevent someone from getting hooks and seatbelt position where they can later work for the choke. Still one of my Favorite throws, I just try to make sure it’s explosive enough that none of the other variables become a problem. Harder to do with trained guys. I love the variations though.
I feel like that Bulgarian seems extremely useful to me idk why. In the cage when you go for that wrist control people seem to panick a little and that split second of them being uncomfortable is just the edge you need. Love the vid 💪
In the 1970'S I taught a friend the one arm throw. I taught him to try to touch his nose to his knee when he threw me. He actually threw me 7 feet away and off the Matt. I said, " That will work." And we both had a good laugh. 😁
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Great information. I started using the last throw my season year in high school. I used it in the Finals of Doc Buchanan. That was the 5th time I had wrestled this finalist. I showed him something he had never seen from me before. I for the rest of the match he did not want to engage. Good to have as part of your offense.
Those were great throws. The setups were well done, so very informative. I watch your channel all the time because you do different arts combining what works.
This video is the perfect bridge for people taking gi takedown classes at their BJJ academy and also taking no gi classes with sparring that starts standing. Thank you so much guys. Very clear explanation and demonstration. Really appreciate the basics in detail.
Just to clarify; The Judo version of a one arm shoulder throw (Ippon Seio Nage) does not involve bringing the opponent's arm (uki's) up around your neck. Ideally it stays on the shoulder and in the crook of the arm ... thus Shoulder Throw (not a neck throw). This should reduce the risk of giving the opponent a choke - but stuff happens. The old Katas do have it come up around the neck but modern completion style keeps it on the shoulder. Even if you score with the throw, Ippon (1 point for the win) isn't guaranteed so the attacker (tori) has to be prepared to continue the match on the ground.
Wow. This in my opinion, is the best grappling channel on you tube. And I follow quite a few of them. Love how you guys integrate the best techniques, from many disciplines . Instead of taking a narrow minded , one discipline approach.
That "Bulgarian" tie up, is actually very effecting, especially agaisnt armed opponents or people who have some grappling experience. Not many people train that and going for the toss isolates that wrist. Powerful
I love this. I found this video because I noticed that BJJ guys give these up all the time almost like a gimme. I was a wrestler in high school (20 years ago) and know the arms spin, so I gave it a go and started hitting it on everyone. Black belts even. They tie up and defend the shot by moving their legs away and leave the space open for a throw. For months I saw the opening and pondered if the throw series would work for BJJ. Yep it does but you have to get it tight and maintain control. I began looking for videos on how to tighten up the technique and found this. Pure gold! The first one you show here, the shoulder throw from the collar tie works great too. After watching this I went to class and hit that throw on one of our blue belts. As I was in side control he said I shouldn’t do that throw because it gives up my back. So we stood up and we did it again. Again he did collar tie and again I executed the shoulder throw. He still, even knowing it was coming couldn’t take the back. By holding onto me the best he could do is slow it down but still ended up getting thrown. If the throw is tight there isn’t enough space and he’s going for a ride. Awesome content. Love the channel.
"It's there because it works, you just have to learn how to use it".. wish someone has shared this universally applicable treasure of a line with people like icy mike before he had trashed on striking. Just because he can't use his kicks doesn't mean kicks are useless, just means he sucks at throwing them.
Great stuff! I love how you and your coaches walk us through the positions and why they work. As a newbie to grappling, this is super helpful and also makes me geek out lol
This is great! I'm used to that sort of high grip, but I'm going to switch to the wrist grip. Even without it, transitioning from wrestling to BJJ, I never worried about chokes when executing arm throws. It just never happened, even with higher belts. Maybe it's the speed of the move or just the element of surprise. I don't know. I've always believed that once I get a man off of his feet, he's more worried about his landing, and I'm already 2 moves ahead of him. It'd be great to hear your take, Coach Brian!
I also agree that it’s speed. The throw occurs in less than a second. Wayyy to little time to realize what’s going on and then execute a choke. Seems possible when you view things in slow-mo or you are going step by step but not in a real fight no way.
As coach pointed out, this one is not trained that much in grappling community, so if you have a wrestling background it's pretty easy to surprise your opponent with an Arm throw. Just gotta adjust it for submissions. Devil is in the details.
Love these three different approaches to a shoulder/arm throw! I have a Judo background and I think they are a fantastic alternative that can easily be worked into your fight game. Well done Anton and Brian!
If you're throwing him by his right arm, the key is that when you land your right shoulder nails his pec/delt junction to the mat. This completely shuts down a back take. Then you swi your right arm over his chest and under his neck to finish in head-n-arm top position. Also Anton is often popping up momentarily when he steps under before he throws. Someone good will take advantage of that The refinements I mentioned here came from Billy A. Robinson, Catch Commonwealth Heavyweight World Champion, to me in private coaching. Its a great underutilized throw. Nice video.
I love it how they’ve pointed out it won’t always work the technique does have it flaws in a street situation or another martial art which a good coach will always do
What's up guys, hope you enjoyed our latest video! Here is a link to another arm throw video that demonstrates how to use a dummy to train your throws. Enjoy!
th-cam.com/video/2Gd75LxVG-g/w-d-xo.html
thank you coach! i will use these variations in my wrestling
I hear what your saying but just to give some clarity to John's point I think John was more concerned with someone countering with instant hooks and turning your 2 on one into a seat belt.
Yes I understand his point and it is taken but every move has drawbacks when done improperly. What I didn’t say is the ankle pick has drawbacks as well that he didn’t discuss. It may make for a good future video with all due respect. 🤙
With speed and surprise good technique these throws would make it impossible for someone to choke you at the beginning. You need to master the throws!
loved this
Props to Trent. His pain was our gain. Thx!!
+Docinaplane
Pain? He is just doing normal falls that he does every lesson - no pain for an experienced uke.
@@neongamer721 It means you can take this sort of treatment for hours. I used to be the go to Uke for my instructors to throw around and demo anything. So yes you can get used to this. I agree everyone will eventually tire or hit fatigue - but it would be much longer than what we saw in this video for a fit experienced Uke.
Tren = gain, i got it
Yeah I was feeling bad for the kid, hope they bought him a good steak dinner or a beer if he is "old" enough afterwards!
@@MorteWulfe being thrown perfectly on a good mat is really FUN.
Your channel is vastly underrated. This is a jewel of a lesson.
simp
nomadic potato I was being abrasive for no reason, I apologize
@nomadic potato
This video is overrated because they don't have any defence from punching in this video, it's all well and good being able to throw someone, but there's plenty of moments where he'd be eating fists to the face.
@nomadic potato
I prefer to learn for the purpose of self defence, tournament sports, while fun, are rarely useful in real world scenarios.
They find a practical use for this in their sport, that's great, but they need to clarify that these techniques have a high probability of failure in a real fight.
You assume just because I play video games, after you stalked my channel, that means I have no real world experience.
You're sorely mistaken.
Also, it's Battlefield, not battleground, I don't play that battle royale fad shit.
Side note, I think you don't have a clear grasp of the terms overrated and underrated.
@nomadic potato
I haven't missed the point, I know what you're saying, which you are just repeating again and again.
But what I am saying is, these tournaments are pointless, when they have no real world application.
What good is it, being able to throw someone who's getting into position for you to throw them, when you could be learning to throw someone, who's trying to prevent you from throwing them using every ability they have.
It's like Larping.
Humanity loves to make rules and regulations, suffocating individuals with society.
"Trying to sell a game of rules and pretend, in a world where you can only own what you can defend." - Greydon Square
Nature could easily come along and bite these tournament winners in the arse one day, say a black belt tournament judo champion, gets cornered in an alleyway by a group of men with knives and clubs.
I bet you, when the group of men are done, and the champion is bleeding out in the alley, he looks back and wishes he'd learned how to defend himself properly, instead of playing make believe.
It's a harsh reality, and one many would balk from, but I'd personally only want to train for reality, over training to get some crappy trophies that are useless weight.
I think you're the best no gi grappling TH-cam channel right now
John Danaher's point (remember he was marketing his instructional) was not that throws in which you turn your back to your opponent don't work in Jiu Jitsu, rather that they take more expertise and training to do well and safely. His stated goal was to teach techniques that he could have beginners hitting reliably in a few months. I would agree with him in that, whether coaching Wrestling or Jiu Jitsu, Arm Throws are not among the first things I teach beginners. For one with the mobility and body mechanics, however, they can be very efficient throws and are among my personal favorites. Well worth learning to do well.
Point taken. My last thought is that moves aren’t equal for everybody. Some people “adapt” to moves easier than others. For some an arm throw is their easiest and most effective technique, for others it’s an ankle pick. If everyone works on their ankle picks because John said to, it just makes ankle picks harder to pull off and arm throws easier. I would promote all effective techniques.
Great point. I watched that video many times too.
I think part of John’s point also had to do with the risk of a failed attempt putting you in a very bad position. Especially for beginners. (Like me 😉) failed ankle pick? No big deal. Failed throw? I’m getting choked out.
Another thing to consider is that You don’t need to get the joke right away. While holding the arm and wrist helps prevent the choke from being put on, it won’t always prevent someone from getting hooks and seatbelt position where they can later work for the choke. Still one of my Favorite throws, I just try to make sure it’s explosive enough that none of the other variables become a problem. Harder to do with trained guys. I love the variations though.
@@TeachMeGrappling is there another Name for the Bulgarian because I can't find any information on a Bulgarian tie
Props to the dude who got thrown around and never complained.
Me: a judoka, training more nogi bjj and wondering the different ways of doing seoi nage without a gi
TH-cam algorithm: I got you fam
Awesome video!
You know any man wearing a Russian Wrestling T-shirt means businesss.
I feel like that Bulgarian seems extremely useful to me idk why. In the cage when you go for that wrist control people seem to panick a little and that split second of them being uncomfortable is just the edge you need. Love the vid 💪
In the 1970'S I taught a friend
the one arm throw. I taught him to try to touch his nose to his knee when he threw me. He actually threw me 7 feet away and off the Matt. I said,
" That will work." And we both had a good laugh. 😁
Wake up in the middle of night to watch Brian's newest video.
🤙
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How did you get your belt on there?!
I love this channel!!! I don't know nothing about wrestling or grappling, but you guys are making it a lot more easier to understand.
Very clear and simple approach to some very intimidating attacks.
Just a little Japanese lesson: “Seoinage”
Seoi=to lift up over your shoulder
Nage=throw
Love this channel!
I’m Yusuke Nagano from Karate Dojo waKu :)
🙏 Thank you!
TeachMeGrappling Coach Brian No problem! My channel focuses on Karate, so I’ll be really happy if you can check it out :)
Great information. I started using the last throw my season year in high school. I used it in the Finals of Doc Buchanan. That was the 5th time I had wrestled this finalist. I showed him something he had never seen from me before. I for the rest of the match he did not want to engage. Good to have as part of your offense.
I am simple man. See Russia on t-shirt - like video!
GOD I LOVE GRAPPLING!!! I love it. All of it. Beautiful.
Those were great throws. The setups were well done, so very informative. I watch your channel all the time because you do different arts combining what works.
This video is the perfect bridge for people taking gi takedown classes at their BJJ academy and also taking no gi classes with sparring that starts standing. Thank you so much guys. Very clear explanation and demonstration. Really appreciate the basics in detail.
After every throw, kids getting up slower and slower🤣🤣 Respect
lol
Just to clarify; The Judo version of a one arm shoulder throw (Ippon Seio Nage) does not involve bringing the opponent's arm (uki's) up around your neck. Ideally it stays on the shoulder and in the crook of the arm ... thus Shoulder Throw (not a neck throw). This should reduce the risk of giving the opponent a choke - but stuff happens.
The old Katas do have it come up around the neck but modern completion style keeps it on the shoulder. Even if you score with the throw, Ippon (1 point for the win) isn't guaranteed so the attacker (tori) has to be prepared to continue the match on the ground.
pleasure to see you tutorials guys !
Very interesting! In Bulgaria we call this arresting the hand. Great knowledge from everybody in this video.
This series was absurdly awesome. Huge amount of info in a tiny video.
Wow. This in my opinion, is the best grappling channel on you tube. And I follow quite a few of them.
Love how you guys integrate the best techniques, from many disciplines . Instead of taking a narrow minded , one discipline approach.
They're teaching me grappling!
This channel is the jack pot . Awesome techniques and very clear and thorough descriptions. Makes it easy to go and execute on the mat.
Anton is an exceptional instructor.
Poor Trent!!! Awesome, thank you.
thanx for john danaher comparison explanation. it helped.
That spin to hip to hip was so smooth omg imagine a full out slam like that ouch lights out
I've seen it end a fight in the street. The wind leaves the body.
This is amazing and a very good coach! Well done lads
Kudos to the guy getting thrown, he's a trooper
How did I not find this channel already??? Particularly appreciating the Arm Spin details - set up AND finish! Awesome 👍
You never told me how to grow a human being. You said plant a human, I'm here, nothing to do with anything remotely about agriculture. Thumbs down.
add water, duh
Not water, Gatorade. It’s got electrolytes....!it’s what plants need
@@johnnykage3903 Brawndo's got what plants crave
Arm throw is my go to in Gi and No Gi. These variations are awesome!
That "Bulgarian" tie up, is actually very effecting, especially agaisnt armed opponents or people who have some grappling experience. Not many people train that and going for the toss isolates that wrist. Powerful
I love this. I found this video because I noticed that BJJ guys give these up all the time almost like a gimme.
I was a wrestler in high school (20 years ago) and know the arms spin, so I gave it a go and started hitting it on everyone. Black belts even. They tie up and defend the shot by moving their legs away and leave the space open for a throw. For months I saw the opening and pondered if the throw series would work for BJJ. Yep it does but you have to get it tight and maintain control.
I began looking for videos on how to tighten up the technique and found this. Pure gold! The first one you show here, the shoulder throw from the collar tie works great too. After watching this I went to class and hit that throw on one of our blue belts. As I was in side control he said I shouldn’t do that throw because it gives up my back. So we stood up and we did it again. Again he did collar tie and again I executed the shoulder throw.
He still, even knowing it was coming couldn’t take the back. By holding onto me the best he could do is slow it down but still ended up getting thrown.
If the throw is tight there isn’t enough space and he’s going for a ride.
Awesome content. Love the channel.
"It's there because it works, you just have to learn how to use it".. wish someone has shared this universally applicable treasure of a line with people like icy mike before he had trashed on striking. Just because he can't use his kicks doesn't mean kicks are useless, just means he sucks at throwing them.
That transition at 11:00 is so cool and unexpected.
Great stuff! I love how you and your coaches walk us through the positions and why they work. As a newbie to grappling, this is super helpful and also makes me geek out lol
Haha when coach grabs his head with the other hand look at Trent's face. he says you feel that Trent? lmao good stuff Brian thank you
This is great! I'm used to that sort of high grip, but I'm going to switch to the wrist grip. Even without it, transitioning from wrestling to BJJ, I never worried about chokes when executing arm throws. It just never happened, even with higher belts. Maybe it's the speed of the move or just the element of surprise. I don't know. I've always believed that once I get a man off of his feet, he's more worried about his landing, and I'm already 2 moves ahead of him. It'd be great to hear your take, Coach Brian!
I also agree that it’s speed. The throw occurs in less than a second. Wayyy to little time to realize what’s going on and then execute a choke. Seems possible when you view things in slow-mo or you are going step by step but not in a real fight no way.
@@ES1976-3 Great insight, Jacob! So, it's not just me. The speed of the movement is critical and allows for avoidance of chokes.
Wish I knew when i wrestled in hs. Didn't have quality youtube back in 2007 smh
No ads tho 🤷♂️
thetravisstory those were the days
Thank you for those variations. I will try them
Thanks for the lesson
One if the best videos for the particular techniques. Thanks.
Great technique 👍enjoyed it.
Those are some really great throws!
Love your channel and the content. Many Thumbs Up!
I missed this one the first time around. This is dope
As coach pointed out, this one is not trained that much in grappling community, so if you have a wrestling background it's pretty easy to surprise your opponent with an Arm throw. Just gotta adjust it for submissions. Devil is in the details.
More like these please.
High signal to noise videos. Great job guys.
Love these three different approaches to a shoulder/arm throw! I have a Judo background and I think they are a fantastic alternative that can easily be worked into your fight game. Well done Anton and Brian!
Thank you!
BRILLIANT and FINALLY realistic. Love the video
If you're throwing him by his right arm, the key is that when you land your right shoulder nails his pec/delt junction to the mat. This completely shuts down a back take. Then you swi your right arm over his chest and under his neck to finish in head-n-arm top position.
Also Anton is often popping up momentarily when he steps under before he throws. Someone good will take advantage of that
The refinements I mentioned here came from Billy A. Robinson, Catch Commonwealth Heavyweight World Champion, to me in private coaching.
Its a great underutilized throw. Nice video.
Had to subscribe to this channel TWICE! Best channel on TH-cam for grappling content with high level instruction of key details.
Thank you 🙏
We need you guys on the east coast.
So smooth thank you for this
Thank u guys! Ur great !!!
Our pleasure!
Awesome lesson!!!!
Very nice exchange of ideas.
Thanks Trent
WOW!. Love your Channel, all these great combinations will devastate my Street opponent fighting on concrete... Thank you for all the great info.👍
That’s murder
7:23 - he just wants to hug :)
Invaluable lesson,I don’t forget your grace,Thank you Coach Brian.
So much great stuff. Best grappling channel period.
Outstanding
One of the best Martial arts channel I've ever found
Great stuff!
Excellent!
By far my favorite grappling channel. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work.
Cool! Thx!
amazing! thanks!
Great tutorial
Nice way of teaching
Good man.Thanks so much
Throws are very useful in wrestling Jujitsu Judo Grappling others and in other striking arts karate muay thai
Wow, beautiful throws. Thank you for your videos as always.
Very very nice arm throw
Nice set up on number 3
Excelent Technics, i use the first every day.
Damn, you guys rock.
This is a wonderful lesson. Great details, and I truly appreciate your mindset about all things martial arts. Thank you for sharing brothers. 🙇🤙🏼
Can't wait to try these thanks guys much appreciated
that hip to hip action on the arm spin from over under looks like it would be a good setup for ippon seoi-nage or maybe even ogoshi
Pure Gold
Holy s'!! Anton Kalista knows his wrestling!
Great stuff guys
Beautiful techniques. Wrestling to me is the most peaceful form of martial art compared the others.
Nice Work guys
I like this variation our seio without a gi!
Nice Anton is such a beast.
Anton says thanks!
Excellent. Thanks to Anton and the durable guy who sacrificed himself for this video. :)
Can't believe I've never seen this channel! Instantly subscribed!
Great video!
I love it how they’ve pointed out it won’t always work the technique does have it flaws in a street situation or another martial art which a good coach will always do
I haven't heardx the term "Polish" in over 20 years we used to drill the "Polish" High Step Arm Spin in high school.