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It's like when you try playing chess for the first time and they start naming which historical figure made the same blunder as you
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Came here to reply, saw the bot comments, forgot what I was going to say & got sad.
"Oh boy, are you going for the Frenchmans Cumsock? Don't you know that Alexander The Asswiper debunked that strategy in 1069?"
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Them: "Ah, I see you are trying to go for the Archibald gambit, sacrificing your knight early to protect your pawn so it can promote later on and set my King checkmate."
Me, who just avoided touching the Knight because horses weird me out: "...yyyyyyyyyeah."
This is absolutely me with basically every online shooter. Sure is fun to drop into a map, wander around for five seconds then immediately get headshotted from a different county.
This is honestly what keeps me from getting into FPS. With a fighting game I can at least button mash 1v1 until I get a feel for it. Every time I play a shooter I get sniped while I'm still learning the camera.
It's always so strange to me when my friends who play Overwatch say that fighting games are too hard for them. Like, competitive shooters are INSANE, I don't understand how people can process them.
This is why I firmly believe headshot in games don't add fun unless it's a single player game, or if headshots don't one shot you. Sure it may be realistic but that doesn't mean fun.
Yeah FPS you just have to accept you'll be trash for a while and I get why that's not fun for a lot of people. Like when friends try to get me to play fortnite- 0 chance I can ever catch up to 17 year olds who have played nonstop for 5 years now.
lol'd at different county
The beauty of having a friendship where you’re both absolutely terrible but both adamantly despise losing, an eternal loop of “just one more” lmao
FGC be like that, yeah haha
I liked those first two comments but this one is 100% me
Happens at the higher level too lmao
I had a friend who was very good at street fighter, and I, who was dreadfully average, would do "just one more" until I won. It would usually take 20-30 matches, with him switching around to characters he'd never played before. Unfortunately, this is often how he found his best characters though
Yep, fighting games are only fun if both of you happen to be at comparable skill levels. I remember my best friend as a kid was just naturally really good at most games so if I got a new game, I would practice for a week just to be more of a challenge but he'd still usually kick my butt. My brother also refuses to play fighting games anymore as he ends up rage quitting every time. I don't mind losing but I hate not even being able to get a single punch or kick in (which usually happens if you play any fighting game online where people have dedicated their entire lives to it).
My roommate in my early 20s was one of thise intensely great fighting game players. The kind who entered local tournaments and would clean house with perfect matches. At the same time though he was SUPER into getting others into fighting games regardless of skill level and coaching them on how to improve. He knew exactly when to "pull his punches" and to pick characters he was bad with to even the playing fields and to make the games fun for everybody. I remember we spent the better part of an afternoon just practicing parry mechanics in 3rd strike (that is to say he'd throw some telegraphed attacks at me until I could parry them without problem and then start weaving more difficult combos so I could improve). He was a really great guy to play games with
But now? He's turned pure evil hasn't he. What a tragedy ;p
Exact opposite of the character portrayed here X)
What a hero
This is rare. We need more pros like this.
I hope he is having a great time where ever he is. The scene needs more people like him.
I swear everyone does this. They could be your closest friend and beat you so hard in a fighting game with 0 remorse.
Part of it is literal muscle memory so I can never be too mad when I get clapped
Bro the worst part is they probably WERE going easy on you. Even bronze players can kick the shit outta new players easily
@@jaddy72 yeah, fighting games have crazy high skill ceilings (the good ones, at least)
I beat my friends' asses then teach them things they can do to improve bc I feel bad whooping people that hard
I do this but that's more bc I don't wanna go easy unless it's specially requested, and I go out of my way to also tell them about things while I'm beating them up, and if they wanna learn I'll come at them with everything I have, and I'll tell them what the answer to a given option is, etc.
It becomes me teaching them things about the game which helps me further my understanding
Just the fact he did this with no special effects, no footage of an actual fighting game, just his own voice and movements makes this so much better.
theres sfx
4 bot comments and 1 genuine reply. Good
Balanced as all things should be
The sound effects are working pretty hard to sell the fight, but that's just solid editing.
@@BonaparteBardithion LOL we need to see the version without the sound effects!
One of my favorite gaming experiences was in college. A bunch of friends piled into my room and we played SoulCalibur 2. I picked characters I was AWFUL with because none of my friends had played it before. I turned the timer off, told them the basic buttons and mechanics and let them get comfortable with the controls. I let them say when they wanted to engage and then we fought. The win/lose ratio was pretty even and we all had a blast.
This is how i would get my friends to play fighting games, too. Tekken was one of our favourites.
Good taste and great methods. Hell yeah.
Huh, as many times I tell my brother the controls for Smash Bros. he still manages to forget how to play in a couple seconds
@@shade159 lmao, and for some people, they're just not cut out for it. It's kinda funny because I'm decent at fighting games, but suck ass at games like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Similar concepts when it comes to execution, but i just dont transition smoothly.
Absolutely based.
I like to imagine they didn't even start the game and that that's just how his friend reacts when he gets excited
ok this is what I think now too
He said “wanna play again”
That was really good 😆
@@littlemoth4956he played it in his mind
I like to imagine the fighting game expert just started punching him for real
As someone who loves fighting games, yeah. Yeah, it really is like that some days.
It really do be like that sometimes
it happens to the best of us
I've been trying to get some friends into Guilty Gear Strive with me, but the skill gap is huge. I have to impose rules on myself like, "Don't use special moves" or "Don't use my main" just so they can get used to the controls and buttons. My only hope is that my friends still have fun when they play.
*most
I love fighting games.
I dont touch multiplayer. ever.
It takes the right mood to get into fighting games, and a GOOD helping hand into one.
If you ever want to get into one, pick a friend who knows what they're doing, and who can give you an actual understanding of the core of a game.
Give them the "why button mashing doesn't work" video.
Yeah I had this exact problem trying to get into Guilty Gear. Pretty much everyone I know who plays tryhards the game to such an insane degree whenever I was trying to learn it was like 'ah yes a classic mistake, you actually need to do the Megatron Nutbuster technique for this matchup otherwise I can just use the Cock and Balls grab to take away half of your health and win instantly which I will now do. Better luck next time champ.'
@beyond your imagination if you are trying to be funny, doing the same joke over and over just ain't that. If you're trying to get a response, here ya go, hope you feel just great. And if you're somehow scamming people, just piss off. Hope you have a mediocre day at best, bye
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I agree with this, because I am dogshit at the traditional fighters like Tekken and Street Fighter. Someone people train me to become a prodigy and I'll teach you how to play Super Smash Bros with items on.
On the other end of this spectrum, I've had a handful of good times picking up a random fighting game with a friend or sibling that neither of us have ever played before (most of my memories of this are at, like, Chuck E. Cheese type arcade places); we just start button mashing and then laughing and fake-bragging about how awesome we are for pulling off whatever special or combo is flashing across the screen at the moment.
Exactly, competitive games are at their most fun when you're both on the same level. I'll never understand the types who abuse their friends' charitability to their interest in fighting games to just steamroll them for some cheap kicks -- I'm desperate to get my non-fighter friends into fighting games and bring them up to my level.
Did this with my nephew at a retro arcade recently. Walked up to Tekken 2, picked our characters, and then laughed at each of us clearly not knowing what to do. It's a great way to enjoy a fighting game if you can enjoy being bad at something. Some people just can't, though.
This is by far the most fun way to play a fighting game IMO
Those are some good times.🥲🥲🥲
I’ve played a lot of games and really practiced honing my skills to get good at gaming. I 100% the majority of games I play, and one of my proudest moments was getting 104% on Hollow Knight. My son’s father literally NEVER plays video games. He bought me Mortal Kombat 11 for one Christmas because I had convinced him to play it together. He absolutely kicked my ass in the one match we played and I was too salty after that to ever play again lol. Men, as a whole, have better motor skills and depth perception, and this just demonstrated how my years of constant gaming couldn’t overcome evolution lol.
Honestly I have friends that are really good at Super Smash Bros, and I had told them how I had only played at parties and that I legitimately didn’t know the controls.
They took the time to let me figure out the basic controls at the beginning of the first few matches, then started teaching me a new thing once in a while like grabbing, how different characters play, stuff like that. I now really love smash bros and it’s because I had people who took some time to help me learn. And also who would let me drop out when I got bored or tired. (we only played at one persons house so I got to play like once every few weeks). Love those guys.
My school has a Esports team and despite being fairly good at it competitive smash has ripped out all of the joy I had for the game I actually hate playing smash because playing it for so long all the tiny issues build up to one large issue
I did this with my cousin until he started getting cocky and being a bit of a jerk to everyone he beat. That's when I switchd to my Main (King K Rool) and just went to town on kicking his ass over and over again to force a bit of humility into him.
@@jinxact532 same
@@jinxact532 What are these tiny issues that you are talking about?
@@redmage8719 smash bros nit be built if competitive okay at all joker has a 360 counter that lasts far too long the input buffer system just feels bad and the hit boxes are terrible and not well balanced some like byleth and fox have attacks that will hit forward but have a 360 hut box so if you are behind them you can still take damage they can even clash attacks from behind which is dumb as hell
Reminds me of my cousin. He learned combos and special moves for the original Killer Instinct from a cheat code book at walmart. He refused to teach me then acted all confused when I'd start crying from losing so much.
Hi I'm here to deliver a normal comment from an actual human in your replies have a good day
That's so sad 😭😭😭
That's so mean. I want to hug you (the younger version of you)
I mean you just gotta block and then spam any projectile.
Winning only because you refuse to teach your opponent how to meet you on your level is the most boring way to play a game. Like, that's the whole reason the phrase "iron sharpens iron" exists.
As a fighting game enthusiast, is really hard to find the middle point where we are not throwing the match, but we are not downright destroying everything you ever cared for either.
I generally restrict myself to a couple of low damage moves and no combos.
I usually just pick characters I rarely or never play.
You could just use normals with no jumping blocking or supers and probably still wipe the floor with them
Even worse on that is it's hard to throw away fundamentals. Even very basic knowledge can make people feel like they have no chance.
go defensive. don’t attack them but also don’t let them damage you to much so lots of parries/counters, throws and fake outs
i think this has been said before, but the editing in these skits is so good that i sometimes legitimately believe that there are two different people involved
Wdym, they are different people
Honestly makes me think of Caleb City with how good the acting is for the different characters
not editing, acting
That's not editing, that's called voice acting (as well as changing clothes and personality) and it's what he does for a living
It's mostly bc his acting is good
My dad and brother used to be exactly like this with fighting games and would laugh at me when I lost badly. Then I got back into fighting games during my teen years and got good enough to the point I started obliterating them. Now they refuse to play fighting games with me whenever I ask, oh how the tables have turned…
You love to see it
You became the skill issue and I love it
This happened to me too and it was nice
thats awesome to hear you cant have fun playing a game with your father anymore, and have to beat him eveytime to make the game not fun XD
Not a fighting game, but I used to play Kirby: Air Ride on the GameCube with a friend of mine all the time. He owned the game, and would usually win every single race, but this one time, he made a bunch of mistakes, and I gained a good quarter of the track ahead of him.
He then proceeded to pause and quit the game right before I crossed the finish line. Even at 10 years old, sweatlords gonna sweat.
Dang, I would have actually incinerated them if I were you :/
The bots out here trying to claim someone else's childhood story lmfao
Lol! That's like what my little brother did when we played Pokémon stadium before XD I had just pressed the button to do the last pokemon attack that would end the match, then he went up and turned off the console so he did not have to see me win... haha! XD
😂😂😂😂 this reminds me of when I beat my brother in super smash bros melee. my brother was the freakn best and none of us could beat him. he was so damn good. one time idk how but i managed to win and i was yelling at my other brother to come to the room to see that i beat him. he reset the game cube and when my brother came in the room he told him that i was just making things up and that we just turned the GameCube on and he believed him since it looked like it was just turned on but he had just hit the reset button ...what a dick haha
Aww, that's petty
I hate it when I’m teaching someone and they’re like “come on, no need to go easy on me” like yes. There is definitely a need to go easy on you
They rarely learn good if you go easy on them. And when you don't, you basically combo them 0% to death accidentally because you forget you're fighting a new player and they get frustrated. But then going easy feels... weird and unusual.
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@@Chillwave6 you can't not play the game. if my opponent doesn't block sweeps im gonna keep sweeping until they block it. i'm not just gonna stop my pressure or let myself get hit to go easy on them
Well said
@@romacalor I remember a friend challenge someone in tekken 6 and the other guy who i fought before that had definitely learned one of the Mishimas well, but when the new guy came in and spammed his way to win as Panda, he got mad and refused a rematch even when i told him to just fight back the spam. If you're not willing to improve and trash talk a newcomer, it's not a good way to do it.
I once red this on a Core-A Gaming video
"The hardest thing in fighting games is being too good to play with your friends but not good enough to be a competetive player."
So you’re stuck playing with online degenerates in cursed ranks.
@@nameputhpong9041 i feel this in my soul
@@davidb4935 Even worse, when you find a fighting game you just can't wrap your head around and choose the safe option of playing against...the computer
so too arrogant to play with friends but too bad to win in competitive
Oh geez that’s me
You also somehow perfectly described what happens when a new player wants to get into Yu-Gi-Oh.
first turn: 2 link summons, 5 xyz summons. 4 omni negates and 1 field spell and 2 trap cards.
"Hmmmm guess I won't play the game"
It's almost like this is a universal experience with any high skill competitive game.
Exodia… game over
ProZD's Cow card game also perfectly describes Yugioh lmao
Magic too. Oh, you bought an intro deck to learn the game? How cute. Let's see how it fares against my tournament banned deck I've built up over two decades.
Me and a friend IMMEDIATELY started yelling at this dude. We just started playing fighting games with each other. I'm the type that would put the game on hold to explain to people that haven't played, so I honestly hate it when they don't do the same for me
Absolutely based.
That's even worse because now the friend that sat down to have 10-20 minutes of leisure time feel like they just joined a lecture on how to learn guitar.
@@meltygear5955 Fighting games aren't rocket science, my dude. Sure it can take a lot of time to get to a competitive level, but when playing with friends, you only really need to go over the basics, then answer any questions they have during/between rounds. Basically just make it clear that you're putting effort into ensuring they're having fun, rather than using them as an excuse to play a game you enjoy.
@@firekirby123 yea but him and his friend called this person “this dude.” Meaning they’re aren’t and don’t know each other. And this story doesn’t really provided that much context neither. So for all we know, the person could had said “I haven’t much of this game” and the other experience person could had been like “oh ok” and took his words as “I didn’t played for that long period of time”, and proceeded to casually auto pilot the game while he was trying to ask questions. Like everytime he do a combo, he be like “Wait! How did that work” and while he explaining it while doing the combo, he say “Freeze, stop, Halt, put down the controller and then explain it to me” in a real time match.
If he just a random guy, he not really entitled to just stop and teach you how to play the game. You definitely right with your comment no doubt but we don’t even know what game this guy is playing
@@firekirby123 fighting games are 100% button mashing muscle memory. First you have to learn the button mashing order, that takes weeks to learn the order of all the moves. Then you have weeks of building the correct muscle memory. Any game that takes montha to be good at it is a waste if time. Get a life and do something other than "getting good" on a screen in a 20 year old video game
This is how my first Magic: the Gathering game went. It was also my last.
"Hey, so I'm new and I've got this blue/green starter deck right out of the box..."
"That's okay, I'll just use my red OTK deck and I win."
"....cool, I learned a lot, thanks."
The best way to have fun with mtg is to have decks that are a similar power level. I've bought a bunch of premade decks from card kingdom for my siblings and they're pretty much evenly matched with each other, with some fun deck gimmicks and avoiding the OP cards. I make my own decks instead because I enjoy that process, but I try to avoid expensive cards, both because I'm cheap and also so I'm more evenly matched with them.
Damn. My first game day was Axis And Allies Europe a few months back. You’d think I would lose, I chose Britain, but my strategies were so off the wall that no one knew how exactly to deal with me. Still haven’t finished that game actually, it’s still ongoing
When I was in high school I used a deck from rando cards I'd gotten off other people for free, or for a very small amount of money. I eventually built a shitty Zurgo commander deck. Needless to say it wasn't very good, but the guy who had spent the most money out of anybody there had a Meren commander deck. I think I won once in two years against that deck, but somehow never got tired of trying to beat it.
and that's why i carry with me "dueling decks" that are meant to be played against each other since their power level is that similar. that way if i manage to cajole someone into playing MTG for the first time, they won't be completely outclassed just by card power level
Imagine playing chess against someone who had twice the pieces. You wouldn't even call it "Chess" anymore.
That's what it is to play against a vastly superior MTG deck, and why beginner decks are important
Ah yes, I loved it when my older brother “””taught””” me how to play street fighter 🙂
as an older brother, it is something all small siblings must learn. we are not here to play a friendly game of ssb or mortal kombat. we are here to teach you that pain is your new best friend.
If we don't show you the ruthless side of the world, you lesser (read: younger) siblings might just die on us and that would make mom sad. We're doing you great favors. You'll understand someday.
@@bug5654 This is the most older sibling response ive ever seen. "this is to educate you and help you survive in life"
Same
To be fair, we did tell you to hold back to block. That was a freebie.
Tip for those who want to avoid this scenario (learned from a friend): pick a character you suck at or are uncomfortable with. It doesn't reset everything, but it might even things out.
I love trying to beat my friends in smash with solomar (olimar w/ no pikmin) and sopo (ice climbers but you kill one on purpose)
@@JeppersGaming how do you go sopo
@@Kayso789 You play ice climbers but you kill one on purpose.
@@SimpleAmadeus yo fr?
@@Kayso789 fr m8
I learned fighting games because I thought a character looked cool and could do flashy things. The beginning involved a lot of losing, but the learning process was fun. If someone introduces you to them just to bully instead of being hype to teach you to do fun stuff, that's no fun for anyone.
One thing that i love about the fgc is that most people that are passionate about fighting games is that they love see new player play the game that they love and they encourage you to play more and even teach you stuff you don't know unlike in other game community like league where they tend to discourage new player for not knowing what to do
Who was the character? They must of been cool if they single handedly got you into the fgc
@@teep7303 Potemkin. Grapplers are just so fun, I'm trying to learn King in Tekken now and enjoying it, even though I've got a lot to learn.
The way to get into the fgc is to channel your inner dwarf and accept that losing is fun
Boy, I've been playing fighting games for 20 years. I'm just trash.
I am guilty of this. A friend introduced me to fighting games--namely Skullgirls. We played for a bit until we started getting competitive even as complete newbies. And then one day, I got pissed off since they were winning so much. So I hit the training room. Nowadays, I can easily steamroll my entire friend group and no one wants to play with me anymore. I still love the game and enjoy more fighters since then. It just sucks that I had driven them away from the game because I was trying too hard. When I try to go easy on them, they also get angry because they want a fair fight.
*I may have won. But at what cost?*
Getting mad at handicaps is a bitch move, though. Yeah, I'm better than you because I like playing this game and I play it more than you. I'm giving you a handicap so you can have fun too -- if you don't take the handicap, you just hate fun.
For me I had a similar but also kinda opposite problem; I just liked getting better at smash bros, I found a lot of fun in the challenge of it. For some reason some of my friends always suggest we play smash bros., but get very upset if they start losing. I stopped wanting to play smash because of how they'd act, but for some reason they still suggest it haha.
@@Geffro and then you let then win and they rub it in your face for weeks haha
yeah this exact situation really tore a good friendship apart for me lol
@@Geffro I don’t suggest smash in my household anymore lol
mfs won't accept the handicaps when they literally get streamrolled every time
I've always wanted to get into fighting games but every teacher I've ever had has been like this
Sorry mate. Iy sucks that you genuinely want to learn how to play well only to have people make you feel like an idiot. You’re not you’re just new and are just learning. People can be very anal and opinionated about it and that only makes others not want to learn from them. You just feel like shit. And they wonder why you don’t want to play with them. Belittling isn’t cute
Find a teacher that encourages you to play vs others rather than themselves. It's so much easier to learn vs someone whos the same level as you
Genuinely I just kinda tell them what all their moves do at a base level, then I just do my stuff and explain why I beat them, or why that move does what it did, and I make sure to let them know when they do something right. Belittlement doesn't get you anywhere but if you find someone who gets excited about the game and then just let them talk about the game while you play. You'll pick stuff up fast. Ask them stuff like "why didn't my move work" or "how do I stop you from doing that?"
Any fgc member worth their salt is happy to share information as long as you aren't like. At a tournament.
Yeah, it sucks, you gotta be careful because a lot of people just get off on steamrolling, even against a newbie.
That said, if you do find the right person to help you or the right hook into fgs, it really is a fun experience.
This video has some good stuff about it th-cam.com/video/UT2pDl-lKX8/w-d-xo.html and there a polygon video I haven't seen about the subject I heard good things about
Definitely a pet peeve of mine. I don't mind losing, but there's no fun in getting completely rag-dolled.
But the feeling of superiority after winning just from button mashing is too good
as someone who plays fighting games i can not explain how humiliating it is to lose to someone button mashing
but the amount of hours you have to put to even have a possibility of winning without button mashing is massive, it's basically like the hours you would put in a JRPG
EDDY WINS
the best thing is when you keep using a stunlock move you discovered by accident and the other player gets frustrated and says you beat them in a "cheap" way
Button mashing only works on bad players i would know, I lose to button mashing regularly!
Smash is kinda nice since you can mess around with the rules enough to make it fun for everybody, and with 4+ players it's harder for any one person to dominate unless they are actually pro. You can also do fun stuff like I did when my cousins were toddlers, just set everyone to 300% and set items to only bombs at max spawn rate. Also always play as Wario and screen shot every time you kill someone with the fart, kids LOVE that.
yeah items are great for that and kids can get nasty with then, little timmy may not know how to DI but he can still chuck a bomb at your dumb ass while you're trying to go after someone offstage
Another trick is to use a time ruleset instead of stock, because no matter how bad somebody is they always come back into the fight, they don't end up sitting around waiting for others to finish because they lost all their stocks.
I like putting it on auto handicap so it makes it harder for the more experienced players.
Smash is absolute garbage and the player base is 100% autists
I have never related more to one of your skits. Thank you ProZD, this was enlightening.
100% agree. It's like being asked to play speed chess, except you don't know how knights move, and every 2 seconds your opponent slaps you in the face.
Gobble gobble gobble is too OP
i thought he was saying "Grapple, grapple, grapple!"
@@kaitykaiser1621 he is since grapple is an actual fighting game term
@@kaitykaiser1621 he might be but i think gobble gobble gobble is funny so ima just go with that
@@AlphaFlare he was saying combo combo combo
you mean combo combo combo? Thats what was said :)
I have played dozens of fighting games with countless people trying to get me into them.
This has always been my experience.
Every. Single. Fucking. Time.
Maybe be less of a jerk about it then and maybe people will actually want to play with you
@@bennu547 "countless people trying to get me into them". People want to play with them, that isn't the problem
@@bennu547 lol what
Try getting into it yourself. I got into fighting games cus of Guilty Gear. Shit is fuckin awesome. Specifically GG Xrd, that game's visuals fuckin floored me and made me wanna play it even though I've never touched a fighting game before it. Sure I lost a million times to randoms but it's still fun cus you get better and better just as long as you don't quit. It's worth it dude. Fighting games are worth the struggle.
Honestly if you wanna get to the fun in fighting games, ask questions. Ask the people trying to get you into them to *teach* you. If you agree, they curbstomp you, and then you stop right then, nothing was gained.
Any member of the FGC worth their salt will happily share info with you if prompted. In fact, it can be hard to get us to shut up about the topic you asked about and you'll wind up with more knowledge about the combo or move than you really wanted
I had a friend like this once. Would want us to play fighting games and none of us knew how to play. He wouldnt even teach us the controls. Then he would say stuff like "how does it fell to lose 5 times in a row". Real peice of work
Yeah, great friend
I don’t think that guy was your friend; I think he was a bully.
Classic
Probably the kind of guy who says "no button mashing" even though he didn't give you chance to learn any moves because he would cry if you actually got lucky and beat him
:,(
I’ll never forget xmas morning 2019 when my gf was visiting my family and casually asked if we wanted to play Melee, forgetting to tell us she’s apparently been playing 12 hours a day for the past thirty years. It was a massacre
"forgetting"
Melee came out in 1989?
@@ballistic2527 yeah I went to the midnight release they gave us all free crystal pepsi
@@ballistic2527 Real Melee players started it before it even came out. That's how good they are at the game.
"Can I have a handicap, at least-"
"Sure you can."
"Well thanks, I-"
"Sure you can."
"What are you doing-"
"Sure you can."
"Stop spamming the same move-"
"SHORYUKEN!"
Well, if you fall for an antiair 3 times in a row that's on you
Clever
This extra funny because spamming shoryouken is literally what a noob would do
then you ask them if they're ok? BUSTA WULF
As someone who plays smash bros with his little cousins while in the same week attending tournaments. You must master the arts of
1: Enjoying letting someone else win.
2: Charging smash attacks the wrong way for 5 seconds and exclaiming "oh, darn it!" when you get hit. (Standing still or running up and doing nothing also works)
If you don't let other people have fun, they will team up on you. Either in real life, or in the game.
Not even Shulk's counter can save you from 5 Falcon Kicks at the same time. No amount of skill can stop you from losing a 5 V 1.
If you do happen to win the 5 V 1, they will just refuse to let you play outright.
the only thing that has never happened in history is an experienced fighting game player playing with a newbie friend and both parties having fun
@@lobster6736 Hence the first step. The hardest step...
You can also mess around with the different custom options. My younger cousins had a lot of fun playing with everyone giant or having nothing but bombs spawn, no matter who won. Also for the love of God play in Time instead of Stock because nothing is worse than losing quickly and having to wait while other people have fun.
@@yoso378 Yes! FOR REAL! Play on time, especially in a free for all.
Dude wasn't lying. When a good player takes it easy on you, it still looks like they're dominating.
You can't undo fundementals.
@@MiloKuroshiro Yeah this is a big thing. If I say, play Melty Blood as Nero. If I go easy, well ok I wont do combos fine. Oh I wont bait attacks into my traps. Ok then I wont use IADs. Ok I wont harrass you at range with my projectiles. Ok I'll not do anti-airs quite so consistently.
Eventually I'm plain just not playing the fighting game anymore. And half this shit is stuff I can do on any character in the game learning their normals as I go.
99% of the time when they say they'll take it easy on you they mean "I'll use this guy I only have 200 hours on compared to the 5,000 on the others."
@@fearedjames you sound like a terrible person to play with
Hey hello how do you do? :)
It's not that I hate fighting games, it's just that I hate losing.
"Wana play Smash Bros?"
"No."
"Why not? It'll be fun!"
"Not for me."
I’m good enough to be the second best guy at any party I go to and bad enough to be the second worst guy at any local I go to
LOL I know this exact feeling.
Imagine actually having locals near you. Imagine actually getting to play with people offline.
@@DoctorGalactor yeah man, in my country there's locals almost only for tekken and maybe a lil smash, both games I'm not really interested in getting competitive at
The eternal struggle.
I remember being told that, while playing a game for the first time with someone, your goal should not be to win the game, but to get invited to play again.
One time my friend invited me to play a baseball game she really liked that I'd never played or even heard of. I ended up totally crushing her by accident by getting three home runs in a row.
I've not been invited to play that game again.
Well said
@@mori6434 well, maybe you should have stopped at one XD
@@mori6434 suffering from success?
Plot twist: they love absolutely bullying you.
I feel this in my very soul, I've been pressured into buying too many fighting games at the promise of playing with friends before they ended up crushing me countless times
IMO, this is why when playing with people of different skill levels, setting Handicaps is so important if the game allows. Smash can be a ton of fun, but if you're playing with people that don't play often, you *have* to fiddle with handicaps until it starts to feel like an even fight. Especially with 3+ players, you might need one to start at 70%, 30%, and 0%, just so everyone feels like they have a chance without the most skilled player needing to ""go easy"".
@@BlueShellshocknah just try to learn from your mistakes and hit training mode
@@hands-ongaming7180 not everyone wants to do that some people just wanna chill and have fun. it takes a lot of time to get really good at fighting games that not a lot of people have
@@Lin_Eileen takes 5 minutes to hit training mode. Even if you’re just a masher those 5 minutes a day/ session can expand your knowledge
Being part of a group of friends who all love fighting games.... it really does feel like this.
Then they start talking about frame data and quarter circle back and I tune out.
Is called 214 sometimes because of the positions on a numpad so if you are doing a quarter circle back medium it’s called 214M
I've never related to a comment more than this
Then when we bring out the jank indie fighter and I start winning they don't want to play anymore smh
i wanted to be good in smash but my brain doesnt know how to do marth's side b in ultimate, so i gave up
@@SSJ3CyLink You press right or left and B at the same time, then keep on pressing B to get more hits.
i hosted an event in my uni called "button mash night" for literally anyone to try a fighting game for their first time.
so everyone guessed their way through rounds and it was super fun
when i was like 12 i was at this family friend's house and the friend's kid, who's a few years older invited me to play some dbz fighting game with him. I couldn't even learn the controls first and he started slaughtering me. He kept wanting to go again and again. Being at somewhere with nothing else to do and I could not leave, I got pummeled for hours. After getting the hang of the controls (a couple hours of trial and error would do that), I started actually fighting back and doing serious damage to him. I could tell his entire demeanor changed. He stopped smiling and laughing, and started leaning forward. I think he stopped being friendly to me from that point on. He still beat me, but he had to actually work for it now. After a round or two of that, we finally stopped. What a fucking loser lmao
You went through a whole anime protagonist arc
Yeah, these guys are like supervillains lol. Overly excited when things go their way, and overly upset when things are not going their way. They only want that instant validation and gratification, which means absolutely nothing, because it's from someone that has no clue what they are doing, and when the validation becomes harder to obtain, they sulk and walk away.
I think there is a whole thing with them being neglected by their parents emotionally for so long, so they look for good feelings in other ways, and they remain immature for a longer time because of it.
I had the same experience myself the first time I visited a friend's house and played Halo 2. First time I'd seen an Xbox, first time I'd played H2. He dropped us into Blood Gulch in a 20 Slayer match and just hunted me down while I was trying to figure out the controls. Words were had and I ended up going home much earlier than expected, but I don't regret it.
@@GrimSavant Are you sure my friend isn't my brother? Sounds like something he's done many times 😅 whenever he has a new friend over he always makes them play Halo 2 with them so he can completely decimate them in a fighting round. It's gotten to the point where his friends would rather watch me make them dinner than spend time playing games with him.
@@catherinerucker1482 I have now learned that if I want to introduce someone to halo I will play the game’s campaign with them on a sane difficulty for a newbie (Easy if they haven’t played any shooters, normal if they have)
At the beginning I wasn't much into fighting games either because I couldn't simply mash random buttons to win. But once I actually took a moment to look at the moves and combo lists and learn the mechanics properly, and when I saw how I could now beat other low ranked players, they actually became fun and I wanted to go even deeper into them. It's now one of my favorte genres.
It's damn fun right? Especially hitting that one setup you've been tryna land in the labs for aaaaaaaaages lmao.
Meanwhile, I learned heaps from players that washed me. Yeah, they spoke little to no English (latin americans love older fighting games) but they were beasts. We just "jajajajaja" and play for hours on end 😂😂
Let's go ! We love to hear it 💪
Kinda reeks of elitism
I too am weirded out by my friends actually acting out the moves in real life.
This literally happened to me. I was at a friends house and we started playing smash even though half of us had no idea how to play it and they got confused when we didn’t want to play.
But smash isn't a fighting game.
@@Redarmy1917 It’s a party fighting game, same problem applies here, get over it
Smash is super easy to get into. Put on items, pick your favourite characters and play. Don't focus on combos or tech, just get a feel for moving around and connecting your hits. Then build on that foundation by learning how to grab, dodge and use your specials. You'll be able to beat your friends in no time.
@@AhmedX8 tell that to online play
this is me with my college roomates, but all three of them were pretty great and I was the only bad one
they almost never wanted to play anything else, and two of them intentionally went for me early before fighting each other or the third guy
The most relatable thing ever. All my other friends have smash bros except me. Idc if they all play it together. But then they ask me sometimes why I don’t play. And I always say “bc you claim you’ll go easy on me and then you throw me into the air and juggle me like a f*cking ball”
I have endless respect for my friend marcy for teaching me guilty gear not by beating my ass but by suggesting we both choose nagoriyuki and spin around for like 30 minutes
"The desire to do command grabs is far greater than any desire to teach" -Abraham Lincoln
lmaooo
Something similar to this happened when I wanted to play Magic the Gathering. So, I bought two starter decks, thinking like, "Okay, he's clearly going to show me the game by using the other starter deck." Nah, he took pieces of that starter deck for his collection, then he took out his actual deck which was a fucking building in size, then we played. Needless to say, it was a blow to my already low trust in meeting new people. I did walk off pissed, but thankfully for that one moment I grew a spine and asked for the money spent on that other starter deck. Didn't really go back to that place after that... which was a shame in hindsight since there were good people there, but just... one shitty experience can topple a lot of social progress.
Damn, that sucks. I play Magic and I've never had that much of a douchey experience, most LGS types are really chill in my experience.
Reminds me of a time when I had a guy try to get me into Yu-Gi-Oh, except at least I didn't have to spend money. He let me borrow his really shitty starter deck... and then absolutely steamrolled me with his actual deck. Didn't help that he was trying to teach me pendulum summoning with a deck absolutely not built for effective pendulum summoning so I got zero sense of why I would ever want to play a game with such a confusing mechanic.
@@corvidaeae It also doesn't help that Pendulum decks almost universally suck ass so it's absolutely bizarre someone would try to introduce someone to the game via a deck which uses an unintuitive mechanic they will almost certainly never fuck with again once they start building their own deck.
These sound like the actions of someone who actively wanted to drive you away from the game.
@@Rynjinivar To be fair to him this was back when pendulum was relatively new, maybe like 6 months to a year after introduction/release. So I'm pretty sure he was legitimately optimistic this would be relevant to the meta going forward, and thus was worth learning.
this kind of situation is why I quit and now hate Magic the Gathering. I had one friend who was a life long collector, had thousands of cards. I started getting into the game, and had a starter deck, and wanted to figure out how to play and the rules. Every time this guy would play me, he would used the most over powered decks he had and just stomp me, without really teaching me anything. Well, then I bought someones magic collection. I created 3 REALLY good decks. I built a deck specifically to beat that one guy who kept stomping me. When I started to win, he quit the game and refused to play against me after that. The moment he knew he couldnt just stomp me without trying and that I had a chance, he refused to play anymore. He kept telling me hes done with Magic, that he quit and doesnt want to play, but I would find him playing all the time, and when I would ask to play next, he would always refuse.
He mocked me, and made fun of me sooo much when I would lose. Yeah, when you have a custom deck worth thousands of dollars in cards vs a starter deck, it is not really worthy of boasting when you win. It is like a pro NFL star playing elementary school kids a game of football, then MOCKING them when they lose. like gimmie a break
Newbie fighting gamer: Beats you up with no explanation and wonders why you quit.
Chad fighting gamer: Teaches you how to actually play.
I'm always appreciative of when someone takes the time to teach me so that we can still play together in a way that I don't feel excluded
Yeah turns out helping someone out is much satisfying than curbstomping them until they never play with you again.
I don't want a lecture I just wanna play video game....
Usually if I'm playing with against an experienced player I just won't let them pick the game. It's gotta be something we both suck at
Where are these chads to teach to play , I've literally never come across one , and when I do actually ask I get the same exact asshole response 3verytime "git gud" so who are these players who actually teach !? Really doubting Thier existence
@@timothyscott1951 right here my guy ☺️. i taught my homie how to play Tekken, and Now he loves it
That last "WOOOHHH!!!" at the end of the combo is what got me 🤣
This is too relatable. I was over at a friend's house, and out of the blue, he asks me "who do you main?" I was super confused, and he asked me who I mained again. I didn't understand. He was talking about Smash Bros.
It’s like they have their own language they expect everyone else to know lol
@@humanbean4037 I don't know. I think "main" is self explanatory enough and the term is not even exclusive to fighting games. Every game that has more than one option has uses "main" ad a term.
You main combibation in Mario Kart, you main deck in Yugioh, your main program you draw with, etc, etc.
The problem here is if the person didn't even specified which game he was talking about.
@@Magnet_Chaos
The concept of having a main thing is common. Pretty much the only context I've heard "I main" in is fighting games and occasionally cart racers. Nobody says "I main Photoshop", they say "I mainly use Photoshop" or "My main program is Photoshop" - unless they picked up the lingo from one of the gaming communities.
@@BonaparteBardithion Last one was a bit joke. Though your later example is what I meant. "My main program is Pothoshop".
Point is that the word has enough context clues to figure out what "a main" is.
@@Magnet_Chaos
It's easy enough to understand in the right context, but it's definitely more lingo-esque than "Who's your favorite character?".
Yeah this is the reason when I play fighting games with people who are completely new to them, I kinda make it more about just showing off cool stuff and characters, and I try to do online with them if we do any matches. Keep it fun and not weird by just steamrolling them, that’s how you make people not wanna play with them, and it’s not that fun to begin with.
I had a friend who actually got enjoyment just beating the shit out of me in fighting games.
The second I got any better at that game he wanted to play a different one.
Wow
HAD a friend
@@daesonhow LOL
Old habits die hard because it's addicting to play on max level
To be fair, I knew a guy who was a competitive smash player (idk if that's considered a fighting game) and he always took it easy on me. He made sure I felt like every fight was close, and I appreciated him for that.
Its a Platform Fighter. So it still qualifies as a Fighting game.
Some people love the delusion more than reality I guess...
@@AsukasButler It's not being delusioned, it's called letting the other person have fun rather than caught up on feeling bad for losing. If you want to spend time with someone in a thing that you're a lot more skilled in, then slowing down or not playing as seriously can make the event more enjoyable for the both of you. Unless you're the type that prioritizes winning over social bonding i guess
@@cameronschyuder9034 You either like competition or you don't. If you don't want to compete, why play a competitive game?
@@AsukasButler Because you want to spend time with your friends, share something you enjoy, or help them improve with your knowledge? There's a lot of reasons, you need to widen your awareness instead of being willfully oblivious.
0:11 Dumbledore calmly asking Harry if he put his name in the goblet of fire
HARRY, DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE 1000 COMBO???!?!?!?!?
Dumbledore said calmly
Where are his eyes?
As a man who has loved fighting games since the first time he laid eyes on an arcade cabinet in the corner of a pizza hut in the early 90s, I'm sorry. It's hard to remember what it's like when your a beginner and trying to figure out how to teach and motivate people to grow when you have years if not decades of experience on them it can be a hard genre to get a grasp on, if not the hardest. Telling your friend just to sit down and fight you is not tge way to go, let them get a feel for the game and coach them through training and arcade mode first or something.
After getting a cheap copy of Under Night In-Birth, I decided to look up some tips to get slightly better at playing with my favorite guy. I’m so inexperienced with fighting games even most of the “starter guides” contain a huge chunk of vocabulary I don’t know how to interpret…
@@FentonHardyFan don’t worry! A lot of fighting game lingo can be inferred from watching. Takes a while and I’m still learning (for example I just learned what Guard Point is), but you’ll get it eventually. If UN:IB has a tutorial, try that, because even if it doesn’t work well it might teach you the vocab. Of course, sometimes gamers make their own lingo up, but it’s better than nothing. Google also helps a ton
It's like trying to remember what it was like before you could read.
that oAUehUOUGH WHYY? at the end was so good lol
My favorite kind of ProZD skit is the ones where he just vents various frustrations.
I love being forced into a cutscene for not playing footsies perfectly for 0.05s
Thank you for this
Fighting games with cutscenes in the middle of a match = eww no thanks!
That's what makes it exciting, you're both on a razor's edge where a tiny lapse can lead to victory or defeat. As bad as it feels to be on the receiving end, capitalizing on an opponent's tiny slip-up feels just as great.
You should be thinking about what to do when the combo ends. What do you think they'll do on wakeup, did they use any meter so now you have meter advantage, what have they done in the past on your wakeup and what beats it, are you in the corner or are you midscreen, and so on. It's like saying "I love waiting for a respawn after I got killed", or "I love sitting behind cover waiting for my health to regenerate". The game isn't over, think about your next move.
@@gwen9939 "You should be thinking about what to do when the combo ends."
Probably attend to my yet to be born children's graduation day, because god forbid me losing neutral once and taking a 158 hits combo.
And this is why I usually use one of the characters I'm worst when I'm playing against an inexperienced person because I want them to have a chance at winning.
This brings back "fond" memories of my cousin insisting I couldn't play as Chun Li or Cammy in Street Fighter because I kicked his butt with them a few times, and his preferred play style was "bully your opponent into the dirt and then spend the rest of the day gloating about your victories".
The good ol' Chun-Li, nothing bests poking at them mfs with her Down HK
I always tell my friends to just get better. Internally I tone it down a little so I'm not just overpowering and cheesing the shit out of them but end of the day you can't tell the next guy don't use that character you just gotta figure it out
Reminds me of that time I asked my friend who was really into a fighting game (not remember which one exactly) to show me his true skills, needless to say I only touched the ground two times, the first one was at the beginning of the fight and the second was when my body hit the floor dead after he finished his combo
Remember kids, if you win the fighting game so hard and so consistently, you'll get a chance to try and win a real life fighting game against someone out for your blood!
Out for Blood does sound like a decent fighting game name.
I just love the visual representation of the punches themselves. 10/10
For anyone who's cracked at fighting games and has a hard time holding back while playing against someone less skilled, I recommend making a challenge for yourself to even the odds. Like, "can I beat them without calling assists", or "can I beat them with light attacks only". It's a good way to make it fun for both of you.
- Throws you into the game with no practice.
- Quickly tells you the controls (very simply or vaguely) before/as they beat your ass.
- Gets annoyed if you pause to look up moveset and combos.
- Is baffled when you don’t want to play again.
It’s almost universal. It happens every time.
wow, I'd be happy if someone looked up moves and combos. Shows they're actually making an attempt to learn ;)
Looking up the moves would be _cheating_ or something......
for fighting games like shooters there are many similar aspects that just makes it super easy for us to pick up on. for example most 2d fighters have light, medium, heavy, and similar special and super inputs. many games now also have auto combo mode so that new players can see what some combos look like. if you really wanted to learn to play you could have asked hey let me fight the cpu and you give me som pointers first. obviously it's not your fault for wanting to learn but it's tough for them to recognize caue there's a point where playing good is like breathing, you don't realize how carved in your muscle memory is
Especially when you’re online and the game tells you your odds of winning. I once had one that was straight up 0%. Like, “cool so I’m getting bodied”
As a beginner, playing fighting games is really only fun when you have people to learn and grow with you.
That way, you're both at the same skill level the whole time and you grow as players together.
Absolutely. I’ve been enjoying playing smash with my younger brother recently. He has 600 hours while I only have 100-150 hours, but I am the better gamer so it cancels out and we’ve been playing against each other at the same skill level. I actually enjoy playing this one game with him because I’m not actually better than him at it, and it leads to the most fun times.
Even when you're not at the same skill level, it can still be fun if you both have the goal to improve.
If you're a lot worse, you can think of fighting your friend as good practice to improve. Playing better players makes you better a lot faster. Of course, this is only fun if you're actively trying to improve though.
Then if you guys play in tournaments, you can see your progress, and cheer each other on and stuff, and its way more fun because you're improving together. Even if youre not at the same level.
This is why its easy to play with and have fun with people at locals even if youre a lot better or worse than the people you play with. Scrubs and Pros play together all the time and both can have fun because their enjoyment of the game comes from more than JUST winning. Of course winning is fun too, but its not the only thing that matters.
Yea but there one key factor here and that if the friend is willing to grow. It not as simple as both players play together so both of them should be relevantly equal. I have a friend who actually one of my best friends. When we met at BlazBlue, He dominated me. But he just couldn’t grow. He couldn’t learn inputs, he didn’t want to change characters. He always complains about “how he was blocking” etc
He knows he’s bad and he’s ok with that. And respect him for that. But If anyone else was in my shoes and didnt have another friend to play with, then what would they do?
Honestly even if u have someone far better than you, as long as they're willing to teach or share knowledge, it ends up really fun
its a fun thought but in practice doesn't work. i learn too slowly & within a few matches i'm already unable to win ever again.
Hey man, I was hyped to see you on the new episode of Make Some Noise. It hadn't occurred to me that you might have improv chops, but I can't say I'm surprised. All three of you killed it.
I feel bad for him, he had to hold himself back so much from unleashing his true fighting mastery.
Exactly. dude probably could have insta killed if he wanted to on round start. gotta be as kind as you can to the feeble tho
@@Kinma15 He gave him the 1,000 hit combo, but really has been labbing a 3,000 hit combo with a 50/50 reset on wake-up, gotta be nice to newbs
LMAO
The irony that this man voices a fighting game character.
Also, as a fighting game player, there's a secret trick that they dont tell you about that will help you not get combo'd to death. When you get knocked down: crouch-block. It sounds simple, but 90% of the time when new players are getting stomped its cause theyre mashing after getting knocked down. You'll still probably lose, but now it wont be one long endless series of pain. Your opponent will have to hit a mixup and you'll be able to fight back.
As a fighting gamer, I never ask anyone to play with me because I don't want to push people away from games that they could potentially love because I accidentally crush them. And believe me, I try to take it easy when my friends ask me BUT THEY DON'T WANT ME TO HOLD BACK.
*Big Blast Sonic plays in the distance*
Give him a break! It’s lonely when you’re too good for locals and too bad for online.
In my experience it goes in 1 of 2 ways:
1: I lose so the other person says I suck.
2: I win so the other person says I play way too many games and that I am a fucking nerd.
That's literally why I stopped playing them also. It's tough trying to play games like that when nobody wants to play with you, or there's extreme skill gaps. I tried to play Tekken at EVO one year and my first match was against one of the people who went on to be a grand finalist.
Shiiieeeeet
Well. Least you got the bragging rights to say you've played that person.
Who was it btw? 🤔
@@13Kr4zYAzN13 Juan “Hungrybox” Dedbiedma
I don't think I played against hungrybox. The only tournament bracket I could find from the year I went was for a smash tournament.
@@camelotsr54
Wait. Hungrybox isn't a Tekken player 🤔
Unless you meant he was a Grand Finalist in a different game.
In which case...hey alright, you played Hungrybox in Tekken I guess. Cool(?) Didn't know he played haha
Wait wait. Misread the thread. Someone answered for you (incorrectly). Nvm lol
Was about to say. No _WAY_ a high level Smash player willingly enters Tekken. Especially at Evo haha
It can be hard to hold back on fledgling fighter players. Sometimes your muscle memory just kicks in and you instantly go for that follow up and you even forget how to explain how to do it cause its become so second nature that putting into technical terms and wording it becomes difficult...at least for me.
I _swear_ no vidoegame genre is as severely inaccessible to newcomers and casuals as fighting games are. 😭 I can acclimate decently well to a lot of genres, even racing ones, which I suck at profusely. But as fun as fighting games appear to me as an spectator, playing them alongside friends is HELL.
There's shooters. MOBAs as well.
I suspect its more that not a lot of people have grown up on fighting games compared to shooters and MOBAs.
@@cileavictoria1229 even with mobas its hard to have fun with friends, since mobas are purely pvp focused and things can get heated. plus I find when youre playing with multiple friends you get distracted more, so its easier to mess up and lose
i think a big reason fighting games are so hard to access is that many of them have awful tutorials, and the learning curve which is already steep is exacerbated by this shortcoming. As well, fighting games have a lot of mechanics that don't transfer to other gaming genres. A first person shooter won't require you to learn frame data, when to use certain comboes to carry your opponent to the wall or which one to use for maximum damage, or how to hit confirm. While I think it's gotten a little bit better recently, for a long time the fighting game community seemed to be reluctant to help people who asked the simplest questions, like in tekken, what "back 1+2" means (hold back, and press the left and right punch buttons at the same time), because thats the kind of notation everyone uses when talking about a character's moves. Fighting games are extremely deep but the lack of adequate help outside of getting someone to sit down with you and teach you how to play one like you're learning a new job makes them hard to approach for most people...
To be honest, the MAIN reason fighting games are so inaccessible is because how often you win/lose is determined based on how good other players are.
Unlike most games, in a fighting game, you arent fighting the game or computers or some story mode. You're fighting another player. And if they're better than you, youre GOING to lose most likely. It doesnt matter how complicated the game is, how easy or hard the controls are, what insane tech there is. What matters the most is the skill level of the people playing. And if someone is a LOT better than you, theyre going to be extremely oppressive and its going to be hard to even play the game at all if you're constantly getting destroyed and combo'd.
This isnt like a racing game which can sometimes be competitive, but even when you're getting destroyed in a racing game, you're at least still like playing the game so its not as bad.
But fighting games are really never going to be fun unless your main goal is to get better, and thats where you find your enjoyment. And its ALWAYS going to be hard because the better you get, there is always going to be someone even better who will crush you. Itll never get easier because there is always someone who can beat you out there. But thats why the game is super fun if you love the thrill of a hard challenge and improving, because there is always that next mountain to climb by improving your skills even further.
But yea, theyre definitely not like other games. You have to approach fighting games very differently. If you have the wrong mindset going in, then you arent really going to enjoy them. And theyre definitely not a game that everyone will find enjoyment in.
@@everythingsalright1121 I picked up Skullgirls a while ago for the cool aesthetics and because my friends were into it, and the tutorial kinda jumps from "hold down and press punch to do a crouching punch!" to "pull off this extensive input three times in a row" really fast. Add in my friends largely being very familiar with fighting games already and having a general attitude of "you're losing because you suck, do better," and I decided not to keep playing Skullgirls.
"I'll take it easy on you."
*Picks a secret boss character through a button code.*
Hey, at least in Marvel vs Capcom (the first one), you could choose to pick a super-weak secret character (Roll) instead of the powerful ones. I would do that sometimes, but then I started getting decent when using Roll and one of the guys at the arcade called me "the patron saint of Roll".
@@SimonMoon5 The fact that the super-secret character that only committed players would know about in MvC1 is also the weakest character in the game by far has always been hilarious to me. I love it.
I feel this! My best friend used to love to play smash and I could barely hang onto the edge much less fight back. To this day it’s one of my least favorite games of all time because every time I would play I would get demolished and they’d look at me like surprised Pikachu when I wasn’t having fun.
Fighting games are only fun when either nobody knows what their doing and doesn't care to learn, or everybody is willing to make the game their second job. Anything in between leads to massive skill gaps that make it pointless to even start the match because the outcome is already a given.
It took me literally an hour to learn a combo in mk1 that does 50 percent and 2 hours for one in tekken that did 30 its really not that big of an investment of time if you just do it consistently like any other hobby
@@twelvevoltagewhile I agree with your point (fighting games aren’t really that hard to get into) labbing good combos isn’t a good example because odds are that you aren’t gonna land that combo.
It's like, there are levels here. Like when playing someone who is like "I've never played" a good start is a character you've never played or an archetype you specifically dislike. I've also found that just "never dash or step in" is also a good place. Also limitations like "normals only" is good because it makes you think about the character in different ways. Yes, you have to fight against muscle memory, but that's not a bad thing.
If you've played a game enough to be very good with some character but you still have characters you never played as then you're already a bad person and your consideration for others won't save your soul from eternal damnation.
I do this with my kids. They know dad will never take a dive, but I will choose my worst fighters. However, I'm gonna fight my heart out with Zangief/Voldo/Balrog and still try to win.
@@KombatGod .... What?
@@KombatGod ... What?
This is the best answer.
Now I'm waiting for a ProZD and Maximillian crossover.
Would be legit if he trained for like a week in like Granblue or Soul Calibur
Woolie could help him Get Into Fighting Games.
Countdown to the eventual clip of ProZD bodying Woolie so hard that Woolie gets banned from that game forever, just like in Skullgirls.
@@johnnychopsocky Fuck it, put ProZD in a room with Obama.
reminds me of one of my friends who i ocassionally played street fighter IV with. it was his game, he played it a lot, i only played it at his place.
he was still insufferably smug about beating me every time and even called me scared when i said i didnt wanna play the game anymore
Completely summarizes a lot of the gamers I used to hang out with in college.
i have to tone it down with newer fighters for some friends. sometimes ill just "forget to block" and it keeps them wanting to play.
I love fighting games, but introducing friends to this genre is nearly impossible.
True. It's not something that can be introduced cold like "Hey, I like these games, I think it'd be cool if you tried them out" because of the exact situation in the video. The friends I've successfully gotten into fighting games are the ones that came to me with a desire to want to learn to play them.
the way i got my friends into tekken was by being new myself. I got definitive edition while it was on sale and decided to invite my friends over one day to try it out. We all had 0 experience with tekken and one had absolutely no experience with traditional fighting games period but we ended up playing for 6 hours straight and it drove my friends to get the game so we could get better together.
@@Jeppy121s the experience we all dream for
Not even smash?
@@trollsome smash is just as bad. There are TONS of things in smash to learn if you want to be good
Losing in a fighting game feels very personal and intimately frustrating because it's a 1 on 1 duel where your avatar gets shit on so you get emotional and bitter, to the point where some people forget to just have fun. Meeting someone equal to your skill level is also a huge factor.
While losing a whole bunch of matches does suck, if you play for a while you learn to appreciate it because it makes you a better player. I know that I learned way more from getting wiped at a local than beating my friends all day.
i mean, get good?
Failure is a great teacher, to be fair.
I consider getting improving in figbting games akin of the gym, you wont start with weightlifting or grab huge, you gotta adapt your body progressively, in figvting games you wont fight an absolute pro but youll find someone akin to your own level or a big reachable with enough window for reflexes and tactics, and progressively get better as yoi feel the pain of the losses and get better.
@@Reialine Yeah! Finding someone close to your skill level is finding a partner at the gym. You spot each other and push each other to keep improving little by little.
“I’ll go easy on you” = “I’m about to make you regret picking up that controller”
This is exactly why I don’t play fighting games even when my friend is annoyingly persistent
I usually go very easy on people who never played before, usually practicing my parries and tech arts so we can both learn from the experience. However, when they start trash talking and getting cocky I banish them to the shadow realm without hesitation.
"Don't mistake kindness for weakness"
this is why we play grapplers, so they can REALLY feel it
Yeah it sucks when I let them figure out stuff and lose a few rounds, then they start going "ha i can beat you really easily how does it feel"
Then i pull out everything i know and punish every single mistake
This was actually a cause for a high school friendship to end. The dude was super-uber into playing Smash Brothers ultra seriously…I understand the notion of edge guarding and all that, but it just wasn’t my thing to do, cause I liked the fighting to continue for longer, not end premature. Anywho, so he wins against me (barely) about six or seven times in a row, show boating, gloating, the whole sore winner routine. Then, I pull off edge guarding strats. He loses once, calls it “beginners luck,” then loses again and starts getting upset, then again…
He threw MY CONTROLLER he was using into our 40” flat screen, breaking both. Yeah…
Worse yet, my Father had just walked into the room to tell him to be quiet while he worked in his home office, saw this, and said ex-friend tried to lay blame on me, gaslight me into somehow playing it easy on him or some dumb shit. Needless to say, by the scruff of his collar, my old man carried the fat fuck out, threw him at his car, and told him he’d be reimbursing us our damaged property.
He didn’t. His Mother did.
Damn. That seemed like it was crazy.
Smash players
Never change
@@13Kr4zYAzN13 trueee
@@13Kr4zYAzN13 These are facts lol
Oh my god, this type of person should not be playing anything remotely competitive. Stick to Animal Crossing, jesus.
I love how this character unlocked the secret motion controls and starts waving his stupid arms around in front of his Kinect. Truly a hardcore gamer lol!