DW Collectors VS Ludwig BreakBeats: $4,000 vs $400 Drum Set Wars!

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  • @TerrapinStation
    @TerrapinStation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The DW certainly has more depth and complexity. However, for someone starting out, or someone who played back in the day and wants to get back into it, id recommend the 400 set all day long, it, actually sounded great.

  • @a.bettik9309
    @a.bettik9309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My breakbeats arrived today. Stoked! Love how you got that 16" kick to sound, you're getting some serious thud out of that little guy! Great video!

  • @drumteacher43
    @drumteacher43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The DW Kit is much better! But I agree ( as I do the same thing) leave the larger expensive kit at home and take out the light weight cheap kit for gigs!

  • @erinpitman8246
    @erinpitman8246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a DW kit for some 22 years and bought a Breakbeats kit about 2+ years ago to have for local gigs and for the simple aspect of a different kit. I love it! With drum head upgrades and good tuning it sounds fantastic and has no lack of punch, and has warm tone. I do prefer double wide snares and that really gave the snare drum some growl and snap. I recorded with it and got great results out of the recording session. The weight and compact size makes for much easier gear load in and set up. I did alter one aspect,...I bought some spacer washers to place in between the kick riser mount so that my kick pedal and beater head had clearance from the hoop. It worked and have never had a problem with that.

  • @mr.friendly1256
    @mr.friendly1256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You've got that little bass sounding awesome

  • @olimpass2808
    @olimpass2808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That’s a 13” x 13” floor tom. Not 14

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are correct, thanks for the correction!

  • @Greggyboyz60
    @Greggyboyz60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use a red burgundy sparkle Breakbeats kit W / matching snare on my Jazz gig. For Jazz standards the Breakbeats kit works for me. Very easy to fit the entire kit in the trunk of my car. The only modification I used is changing the snare wires to “ Puresound “ 30 strand snares.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice yeah man for sure. I’ve literally had my breakbeats kit in my car like the past month or so now Lolol

    • @Greggyboyz60
      @Greggyboyz60 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use them along with some good hand hammered light cymbals and your good to go. 👍

  • @matttimothylagasca8154
    @matttimothylagasca8154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    i didn't know ed sheeran can play this well ❤️

  • @Ranger1216
    @Ranger1216 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think one could get more variety with tuning the breaks….but they are different sizes than the DWs. Very nice drumming thanks

    • @Mike-ol7xp
      @Mike-ol7xp ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget one is on a rug and the other on a wood floor. It's like doing a cheap vs expensive guitar ''War'' and using two different amps and two different microphones, makes zero sense to me, but aye, to each his own I guess?

  • @delta8576
    @delta8576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m getting a breakbeats for shows. I play punk rock and don’t need 6 pieces so I’m downsizing! Thanks for the review!

  • @dkerwood1
    @dkerwood1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wacky. Those Ludwig toms just sound great. Most interestingly, I like how YOU play on the Ludwig kit compared to the DW. You just seem more comfortable and natural on the Ludwig.

  • @veerchasm1
    @veerchasm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting comparison. With just the camera mic the DW has a bunch of inherent vibrations and resonant sounds that I would spend getting rid of when recording. The Ludwig would probably be ready to record as it is

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I def agree. DW rings for days, I have an O Ring but also need to buy more moon gels or try those drum tacks that guys are using

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamperri3437 armory is cool I’m def a Saturn guy though. That’s my gigging kit

  • @baztatum690
    @baztatum690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sick playin!!😝

  • @claystaggs8908
    @claystaggs8908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both sound great for 400 can’t beat the Luddys but of course sound wise the dubs. Nice video brother 🤘🏻

  • @jamesharris2890
    @jamesharris2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cymbals sound clean on the big kit.

  • @McFly-guitars-n-stuff
    @McFly-guitars-n-stuff ปีที่แล้ว

    That wrap is beautiful

  • @storehausholdingllc406
    @storehausholdingllc406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Ludwig would be the better kit for recording if you’re using other samples around it

    • @Greggyboyz60
      @Greggyboyz60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most definitely awesome for recording. I’ve tried it. Also they come stock with Remo Pins which sound great for recording. Kind of miss that Pin stripe sound. I changed my tom and floor tom heads out for Remo white coated Ambassadors. . They sound great for the Jazz gig. But I held onto the Pins in case I need em someday. Can’t go wrong with Pin stripes. Especially for Rock.

  • @Drumsholic
    @Drumsholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think here doesn't explained the difference of 3.600 bucks up for the DW cause the sound is similar with not so much difference in tone as Ludwig and the Ludwig kit sounds awesome.All the game played with the mixing and effects so i think the winner here is the Breakbeats , cheap , small for caryying by easy , nice sounding and honest kit .Yeah!!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let’s put this way, the Ludwig makes me money and the DW takes it away, lol!

  • @MitchellWilsonII
    @MitchellWilsonII 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, bud.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man! Hope all is well, been a minute. Still got your kit?

  • @Erdnase23
    @Erdnase23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What snare are you using with the Breakbeats?

  • @PaulIsbell
    @PaulIsbell 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a child drummer and have lived in apartment complexes, which haven’t allowed me to purchase my own drum kit.
    I am getting ready to move into my first home while serving in the Air Force.. I am excited to finally get the Ludwig Breakbeat kit! It’ll be the perfect solution for me, and it’s easy to pack up if I have to move to another military base!!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Breakbeats is crazy good!

  • @mrmisfit635
    @mrmisfit635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wish I heard the snare it comes with...

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ain’t much to hear man. I have another vid on just the Ludwig breakbeats, I use the snare in that one, if I’m not mistaken.
      I use it for light jazz gigs, that’s about it.

  • @tomcastle7625
    @tomcastle7625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were you a tenors player in hs? Your style suggests that. Thanks for the review!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Na. Lol I’m just weird. Only marched bass and snare in hs and college.

  • @robertnettleship5467
    @robertnettleship5467 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vid. Any tips for getting that tiny bass drum sounding so good?

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I spent $50 on the super kick ii 16 inch lol. But I haven’t had to buy another one yet, and I’ve gigged with one a shit ton, it’s my main gig kit

    • @redonred0924
      @redonred0924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be willing to invest in good heads. The Aquarian Super Kick II that he mentioned is very good, though I personally prefer the Evans EMAD.
      Also get a DW bass drum muffling pillow, or an Evans EQ Pad for the interior of the drum. Much more reliable than a conventional pillow, blanket, or towel.
      As far as tuning, I just tighten the tension rods until the claws that hold the hoops on don't wiggle anymore, then tighten just a little more to make sure they don't come loose. That will give you a big, beefy, punchy sound, even out of such a small drum.

  • @artsal
    @artsal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the color name on DW kit? Thanks

  • @rustyblades2566
    @rustyblades2566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you were to close your eyes and not know the price difference...the Ludwig sounded way better!!!. Those Toms were awesome sounding. The nicest kits Ive ever played were Ludwig classic Maple and Sleishman.

  • @ageshero
    @ageshero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish the breakbeats came in weird colors tbh.
    If they came in orange sparkle, lime green, or something it would be a total perfect choice to me.
    I’m weird

    • @davegarciaofficial
      @davegarciaofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually agree.. weird colors for a weird kit would make it sooooo unique

    • @ChrisCadenhead
      @ChrisCadenhead ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davegarciaofficial Ended up scoring the 2020 Sahara Swirl which is now discontinued. Great little kit and cool wrap!

    • @davegarciaofficial
      @davegarciaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisCadenhead yeah yeah rub it in!! 😆😆😆

    • @ChrisCadenhead
      @ChrisCadenhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davegarciaofficial lol ... I wonder if it'd be worth the effort to replace the wrap! naaaahhh prob not lol

    • @shawnbruce6934
      @shawnbruce6934 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be cool.

  • @ArtisanTony
    @ArtisanTony 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    all i need is a cow bell :)

  • @EllieRose1997
    @EllieRose1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If only I could afford a $4,000 kit, though the $400 one will do for now.. Plus it matters how you play it not what you have.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. I’ve been playing for a long time. Mine was a tax write off for sure

  • @jakethepitador2558
    @jakethepitador2558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you accidentally put one cymbal on top of another. Or are they very big hi-hats?

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s a stack I made, basically two trashy type cheap crashes put together.

  • @danielkernya5484
    @danielkernya5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just sold my early eighties TAMA superstars for $200 and snagged a mint used breakbeats for $400. Used 12 times. (I’m in Canada) I absolutely love them! Always wanted Lewds and I’m so happy with the sound and hardware quality. I’ll look into that kick skin you mentioned but it’s not like I’m suffering g with the kick sound I have. Maybe swap out the kick claws just to customize a little. Kinda basic. I tune my kit by hertz now and I’m loving the sound I’m getting. Great vid. Thanks.

  • @ejames6431
    @ejames6431 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Break beats by Ludwig.

  • @EricT43
    @EricT43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The DW is way better. Get the muffling off of it and tune it properly and it will go head to head with any kit out there for any price. The Ludwig is a fun kit but very limited in application.

    • @Drumsholic
      @Drumsholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you explain the difference of 3.600 bucks of these two kits from what you listen here??

    • @EricT43
      @EricT43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Drumsholic Well a good portion of the price difference is due to better wood, better shell construction, better finishes, and better hardware. The rest is because of the DW badge.

    • @Drumsholic
      @Drumsholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EricT43 I believe you know clearly that with these money you can buy a great Tama Starclassic birch or maple and an amount of good cymbals so why you will choose DW ??It's not have sense.It's overpriced brand any quality's wood if will use.DW Hardware sucks in compare with Tama or Grestch.

    • @EricT43
      @EricT43 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Drumsholic Yeah, you can, but Tama Starclassic do not sound as good as DW Collector's. They are very good drums, but not on the same level. Tama Star, yes, those are amazing drums, but they cost even more than DW.

    • @Drumsholic
      @Drumsholic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EricT43 ok i got it!You're a passionate lover of DW.Ok i agree that has super sounding kits but i'm closer with Tama. Take care buddy, stay safe.

  • @chrisnoble8740
    @chrisnoble8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    clean technique

  • @lekinguitarrista8445
    @lekinguitarrista8445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHATS YOUR OPINION between the Breakbeats and the Tama club jam flyer?

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve always been a Ludwig guy. The only Tama kit I’ve ever really liked is the starclassic.

    • @lekinguitarrista8445
      @lekinguitarrista8445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insanedrummer89 thanks for the super fast reply. I believe I will go for the ludwig. Any recomendation for drum heads that I should get to replace the stock? I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DRUMS. Thanks

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Lekin Guitarrista I like:
      Snare- Remo Ambassador
      Toms- Evans G2s, or EC2s, whatever works.
      Kick- (expensive but awesome) Aquarian super kick ii

    • @lekinguitarrista8445
      @lekinguitarrista8445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insanedrummer89 thanks man. You got a new subscriber!!!!!!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lekinguitarrista8445 anytime bro

  • @bigsquatchsasfoot1964
    @bigsquatchsasfoot1964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gotta stay the breakbeats is better tuned , there’s a lot of nasty overtones on the DW but that may just be the way it is in the room .
    Certainly not over 3k worth of difference in the sound in my opinion I’d play either happily but the breakbeat looks like I’ve stolen it off a small kid 🤣

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This vid not the best example of my tuning skills lol. Other vids of this DW on my channel

  • @tiszakalmanistvan
    @tiszakalmanistvan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ludwig floor tom is 13 '' not 14'...

  • @minisurfbanana
    @minisurfbanana 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I play guitar and they always compare American made a $4000 Fender Custom Shop with $600 Mexican made.
    Now I have a $3000 TD27 👍 I wanted the DW Performance for half the price but...the noise factor was #1 priority. Baby and wife! Lol
    I’m your 1,571 Sub!!! Keep it going!!!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally understand that! My wife is due in October, it will be a new life indeed!

    • @minisurfbanana
      @minisurfbanana 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barret's Music actually practice more guitar while I’m watching the kid when he’s sleeping! I can practice n watch him on video!!! Good luck on the baby. It’s an amazing feeling!!!

  • @Lavo68
    @Lavo68 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The DW kit sounds $3,600 better.

  • @Johnnybananass-_
    @Johnnybananass-_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ed Sheehan can sure play the drums

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks bro! I play and teach music professionally.

  • @deedeekye
    @deedeekye 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hum, I have Sonor Safari (600$) same size but I used coating drum heads and drums sound fantastic, probably better than you expensive DW.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sonor is one of a kind and hard to beat! So I wouldnt doubt it.

  • @thibodaux3424
    @thibodaux3424 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can appreciate what you're trying to do but you would really need to have the exact same size shells, same heads, same tuning to make it legit. Otherwise you're not really just comparing the drums themselves.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just entertainment bro. Every set is diff. I love them both. I have a Mapex Saturn as well.

  • @mucous-membrane
    @mucous-membrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:34 Truly frightening!!

  • @AlexJenkinsTTA
    @AlexJenkinsTTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you should have your kit set up for left handed

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr Alex I’ve been playing for 18 ish years. Lol open handed is part of my style yo.

    • @AlexJenkinsTTA
      @AlexJenkinsTTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barret's Music you’d have better control playing left handed. You can’t get the wrist movements opened handed. Try left you might like it

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexJenkinsTTAhahahah. Please do tell your drum experience

    • @AlexJenkinsTTA
      @AlexJenkinsTTA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barret's Music actually I’ve been playing 21 years and had a couple of zoom lessons with Dave Weckl. We spent the whole lesson on technique, I’m not having a go. Take some constructive criticism on board and don’t get so emotional.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexJenkinsTTA lol you do you man, funny enough Ive never liked weckle.

  • @sivishankari
    @sivishankari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Immediately switching out the snare on the kit and assuming everyone's going to do that was a huge mistake for a comparison video man

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean it’s a very basic cheap sounding snare. I’ve used it plenty of times on jazz gigs but yeah.

    • @sivishankari
      @sivishankari 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Regardless of the quality of the snare, it is a part of the kit and replacing it with an expensive one makes it no longer a $400 drum set and makes the entire comparison worthless. Imagine if you were comparing two guitars, a gibson les paul and an epiphone les paul, but you switched out the epiphone pickups for Seymour Duncan's. You're no longer making a valid and accurate comparison

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sivishankari true true

  • @Mike-ol7xp
    @Mike-ol7xp ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't you think that maybe you should've used the same drum sizes, and don't you think the same playing surface would've helped also?! Rug vs. floor is a drastic difference in sound projection, I won't even get into the drum size difference. This is like doing a cheap vs expensive guitar ''War'' and using two different microphones and amps, totally senseless.

  • @ArtisanTony
    @ArtisanTony 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so the DW increased my lifespan but the Ludwig took me back to your childhood so, I am at a loss :)

  • @nicks5648
    @nicks5648 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m sure you’ve never heard this before. But you look like Ed Sheeran

  • @adamdiazzz
    @adamdiazzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    didn’t know ed sheeran played drums

  • @piporamirez2397
    @piporamirez2397 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No difference in the sound, or quality at all, DW is way up overpriced.

  • @thomasmowforth3943
    @thomasmowforth3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neither kit in this video particularly sounds good…

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha fair enough!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve learned a lot since then. Check out one of my newer drum vids

  • @fredcaceres2226
    @fredcaceres2226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cymbals you are using with the Ludwig sound really bad. The actual drums were not too bad but the mics sucked.

  • @monkeyfistinmyneck
    @monkeyfistinmyneck 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congrats they both sound lousy. Please don't use your phon audio for this.

  • @adelhartreisig9020
    @adelhartreisig9020 ปีที่แล้ว

    They both sound fu..... awful.

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  ปีที่แล้ว

      eh raw sounding drums generally don't sound that great. You/everyone is use to hearing doctored up drums. EQ Compression, Reverb. mainly. I would know, I record drum tracks for people. Its about the equivalent to a raw singers track, most of the time it sounds like shit cause were so use to hearing perfection with plugins and pitch correction. Welcome to reality ;]

    • @ChrisCadenhead
      @ChrisCadenhead ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insanedrummer89 Nice comeback hahah! keep up the good work! Now I'm getting the SuperkickII for the kick thanks to you. cheers!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisCadenhead love that head bro!

    • @insanedrummer89
      @insanedrummer89  ปีที่แล้ว

      @beetha true yeah my channel is honestly always been about being raw and showing flaws no kidding.