I've had this gun for 5 months. I upgraded the scope to a Hammers - Air Gun Rifle Scope 3-9x40AO Magnum. Since then my shots have been at a consistent dead center at 25 yards. My backyard is only so big, so that's where I have it sighted. That's using Crosman Premier .22 cal Domed Ultra Magnum 14.3 gr. pellets. I also have heavier grained Gamo pellets that perform just as well at the same distance. Note: I took a robin on the very top branch of a tree at 98.7 yds. (I used my range finder). Thought I missed it until it dropped. I qualified Expert in the army with an M16-A1 with open sights, but that was 33 years ago. My eyesight isn't nearly as good as it once was (I wear glasses now). This gun is just that good. It has a LOT of power for a break barrel, and doesn't break the bank. It does take about 200 shots for the 60 lb pull to settle down. At first I didn't think I'd be able to cock it. Once it breaks in, it's awesome.
Nice review as always. Over a thousand feet per second in a 22 caliber break barrel is impressive. I still haven't seen one of these guns up close yet so I don't know what to think about some of the comments that I've been reading across the board in the forums and other channels.... That this gun does not hold up well with heavy use over time. The biggest complaint being the accuracy starts to go away. That can be due to a poor lock up joint. Or even the seals going bad. I bought the Gamo big cat 1400 when it first came out. That was my first true air rifle. I didn't know anything about air rifles at the time.... I was just impressed by the Box stats the Gamo posts... Which we all know are highly inflated..... Anyway...... It did last me 5 years before the polymer lock up joint failed. I did have Gamo replace the barrel and I still use the gun on occasion. It's not a bad rifle it is accurate but very hold sensitive due to the lightweight. I replaced its active duty with a HATSAN 125 sniper. I am absolutely amazed with that rifles capabilities. It is the first 17 caliber break barrel rifle that I have ever owned that can drive tacks at 50 yards... And get a 5 to 8 inch group at a hundred yards. I'm not down on Gamo at all. My Gamo Hunter Extreme SE in 22 caliber is also a tack driver at 50 yards. At 100 yards the group is not even worth mentioning. But I love that rifle. I can't believe they discontinued making it. I'm only getting about 780 feet per second with the jsb jumbo heavies. But that's more than enough to do the job within 50 yards. I don't hunt or pest anything beyond 50 yards with a break barrel. That being said I've rambled enough. I would like to see a close-up of the lock up on that swarm. The Gamo swarm is a cool invention and advancement in air gun technology..... But I still don't see it being more than something that's marketed to kids. It sure does still beat the heck out of the daisy 880 that I grew up on.
I use mine for plinking and funnin. I'm not a serious hunter anyway to be honest, but I just find the accuracy inconsistencies too much for me to choose this gamo over other options. The olde offerings from Walther and Weirauch and even Hatsan consistently put pellet shots on top of pellet shots if you do your part. I wont rag on the Gamo. I've long known what Gamo has been and why I havent owned one for years until the Maxxim Swarm came out. It is offered for a great price point. The loading mechanism has been stone reliable, I enjoy the easy and fast loading mechanism, and it has generally been a fun piece to enjoy general plinking with. Not the choice for precision target shooting tho. For those of you out there that might happen to have a consistently accurate Gamo, hold onto it and never let 'er go. It's a rare bird.
I have this gun. Power power power!!! I use the crosman 14.3 gr pellets and they are deadly accurate!! The Ruger spiked head pellets also shoot very well out of this gun. Swap it out for a better scope, break it in, and you cant go wrong with this rifle.
I own the original magnum and other than gto and gamo alloy pellets the guns likes jsb exact jumbo monster. At 20 yard you can stack them up in the same hole. It is a very pellet picky rifle but once you find the right pellet it's a joy to hunt with.
i own a gen 1 magnum in .22 cal. i love it. accuracy, power, and multi-shot. i'd have to spend $1000 to get this in any other air rifle. i shoot mine out to 100 yards at targets. wouldn't go more than 70 yards hunting with it though. within that range, it hits HARD.
I m very like it but I don't know that is legal or not which come with suppressor in Canada? Powder cartridge gun with suppressor is not legal for sure in Canada.
I've got this Gamo in my sights. My Silent Cat .177 is my favorite backyard plinker, from a big collection! For the money, vs features & performance, these Gamo's are hard to beat. They are very pellet sensitive though. Not too silent either! But hey, what do people want? Target's pre-punched all over the bulls-eye? That's what makes shooters sharp! Thanks for making these review video's.👍
I bought one I was really disappointed with it at first. After a couple hundred pellets shot though it it came into it's own it doesn't like the luxur pellets at all but the red flames it loves
IF THIS IS THE SAME AS GAMO MAGNUM REGULAR ( DID THEY FIX THE BREACH SEAL PROBLEM?????) They put the seal on the barrel block side and it keeps chewing up the seal when closing. BIG PROBLEM! also Gamo doesn't sell parts! They want you to send them the gun to fix!
Tyler, thanks for the review. Honestly, it's terribly disappointing to see the gun not shoot better. I have a Magnum and a Swarm and planned on getting this gun as well, now I'm wondering if I should. I know you can shoot so don't take this the wrong way but I'm wondering if the gun could shoot better with a little more attention. It took me a while to get my Magnum shooting well but it will group H&N terminators & Sniper Magnums, Gamo red fires at a 1/2" from 40yds. I did clean the cylinder, take off the front site and recrown the barrel as well as a good cleaning of the barrel (but it likes to shoot a dirty "equilibrium" ) but the most important change I think I saw was putting a Diana Bullseye ZR-1 mount and UTG SWAT 30mm 10x50 scope on there. Hold sensitivity... I don't know, I don't think you have to be "sensitive" just consistent. My gun groups in different spots but still at 1/2" if I hold the gun or rest on bags but I think it's just the harmonics, you can hold the gun firm and group well, just has to be the same every time. Shouldn't have to do this much for an off the shelf gun review. You are reviewing it's "off the shelf value" not it's "modified value". Just dying to know if this gun will perform better with a better scope/mounts. It's a huge THUMP for a gun that light... I wan't to know if it shot poorly because of optics or that suppressor.
I tried other scopes on the gun just to make sure it wasn't the factory scope causing an issue and it wasn't. I didn't see any signs of clipping on the suppressor either. It seems that I got a pellet picky one, which happens sometimes. At least it shoots a pellet pretty good out to 45 yards, I've had guns that will not even come close to the 1" mark at that distance, and that is very frustrating.
Oh OK, well thanks for putting in the time and effort. I'm wondering if using the suppressor as leverage for the 40-50lb cocking effort puts the liner that the pellet passes through at a slightly different position each shot and changes the turbulence effect around the skirt enough to skew it's accuracy, even if it doesn't clip the liner. The fastest lightest pellet grouped the best, hmmm. Also, all my gamo barrels like a small diameter pellet skirt like the H&N's and crossman 5.50 and 5.51's. Did you try the Sniper Magnum/Light pellets? they might be less influenced by turbulence affect of the suppressor changing position (total "shot" in the dark here, probably over thinking it, could just be the not too consistent Gamo quality control).
Seeing it has an adjustable trigger, that advantage should have been taken advantage of. At the 45 yard test especially, the gun's potential may have been brought out.
Excellent review as always! Thank you for the info! For my 30 yard shooting this looks like it would fit nicely into my collection? Best wishes friend 👍🏽👍🏽😎
gurney85 well iam saying get rid of the pellet loader. I have the regular magnum and I love it. I could hit a dip can at 150yds with it. Its just too loud. I ended up getting the hatsan sniper vortex 125. That thing is a beast.
Not sure if you just didn't shoot it enough or if you are covering for gamo but it's not the hold sensitivity.... It too me like 300 shots to figure it out but its actually the reloading mechanism. You even see in this video that you shoot the same hole twice, and maybe you purposely only shot 5 to not show how bad it is.... It 100% comes down how much room the pellet has in the magazine, based on far you press the pellet down determines how far in the breach it sits. Shorter pellets are basically unusable. Even the longest pellets that I carefully press into the mag has too much room for error. Millimeters of difference in the magazine equals inches down range. I noticed after shooting 20 shot groups because I would get like multiple groupings 1-2 inches apart outside of where I was shooting. And even the best pellet I found hits off about 1/4 shots 2-3 inches off of where I'm aiming at 20 yards. And its mainly vertical deviation, like 2" horizontal and like 8" vertical with a short pellet.....
Use a bench rest when zeroing your rifle. The groups he showed here were all over the place. That won't happen with most pellets when using a supported position. I zeroed mine in the first five rounds with a half inch group dead center of the target. You may have to buy and shoot many pellets to see which one fires best in your gun. I like the H&N Terminators.
I'm not a big fan of Gamo but I do like the auto load system. I would think it would do better with heavy pellets? My first gen Crosman Venom in .22 is pretty accurate and can it a soup can at 60 yards though I am a bit shaky.
So Ben from "Expert Airgun reviews" in his video claims the rifle shoots around 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards. Not saying it's impossible, just saying that it seems other folks are saying it's bullcrap based on their experiences with the rifle.
Everyone's going to have different experiences with their gun, maybe he got the pick of the litter, maybe he's an incredible shot with a piston gun....could be a number of things. I can only speak for the gun we reviewed.
Tyler, you should try shooting that gamo swarm rifle with heavier pellets such as jsb .22cal. 25.39s & H&N Baracuda match 21.14 553mm headsize & observe it's accuracy at 25 -30 yds. rather than using lighter pellets which is not known for accuracy !!! any potential buyer maybe discouraged to see shots way off !!!
Maybe you missed the part where I showed a few other groups with other pellets? Showed a group with the Baracuda Match, they didn't preform well out of this gun. Only pellet that did was the Predator GTO. Tested 16 different pellets.
hi i was wonder can you guy (Pyramyd Air Gun) make a video of how to clean,oil and maintenance the this gun and where can i get the cleaning set for Gamo Swam Magnum .22 ? thanks
So, hold sensitive or not? Rick Eutsler claims that his test gun was not hold sensitive. Also, and a point not brought up, is that the Magnum (and its Swarm variant) has issues with breech block (?) tolerance issues, and that shooting this gun with heavier pellets will amplify felt recoil. Not sure if I am sold on the concept of this gun, only time will tell.
If I had to guess, it's going to be gun to gun. This has often been my experience with the lighter weight piston guns. The gun held up very well all things considered as did the scope, that was a big surprise.
Hold sensitive? Maybe the break action is loose. I used to think my hold was bad, but it was the gun, especially as it got older. I found out after shooting consistently well with CO2. What does it matter if it makes 1 million fpe if you can't hit the target consistently? No more break barrel for me.
The locking mechanism and hinge bolts were not loose on this gun. Most of your magnum guns will be more hold sensitive and when it's a gun that only weighs 7.5 lbs, that is amplified.
When you have enormous piston moving before the projectile leaving the barrel, any hinged part will move, especially true with magnums. It's too bad they don't also make this as under/side lever so you can compare hold sensitivity; I suspect fixed barrel will not be as sensitive to hold.
The other benefit to making it an under or side lever would be the additional weight to help stabilize and take some of the recoil. But that's not what Gamo is going for, they never have. It's all about velocity. And that makes for guns that are very hard to shoot well.
Can you put pressure on Gamo and others to make under/side lever gun with fixed barrel with just as much power? You can threaten them that they may lose one guy (me) as a customer by not offering as such. :-) Next I'll be asking for opposed piston underlever. :-) :-) :-)
Christ. I've watched alot of these videos from different people. This is infinity better than anything i've seen. Certainly better than t hammer's, gun in mom's basement review. LOL. Keep going guys, and i'll keep on buyin. Love your stuff.
phantomshTTer it’s not bullshit I shot at 150 yards with same gun same scope I got a really good group I love this gun shot and killed a rabbit at 100 yards
I don't see you zeroing with a bench rest. Without this you can't have the actual consistency of the gun and the pellets you are shooting. why not sighting in with a bench rest?
🇺🇸 NICE VIDEO BROTHER !🇺🇸 I AM GOING TO BE SHOOTING 357 HOLLOWPOINTS INTO DIFFERENT THINGS TO SEE WHATS THE BEST EXPANSION FOR 357 CAL. BULLETS ! I JUST LOVE WATCHING ALL THE AIRGUN CHANNELS , THANK YOU !😎
A magnum springer is an oxymoron in my opinion. Springers are about finesse and accuracy, not power. If you want that level of power and accuracy, get a PCP. I would only use this gun for medium game out to 20 yards, i.e. raccoons from a blind at night or something similar. Good review Tyler. Appreciate your no nonsense, tell it like it is style.
I share your opinion. To me, the "sweet spot" of spring-piston power and precision is around 12 ft/lbs. I have such a rifle; an old Webley Omega that shoots .177, 8.44 JSB Exacts at 785 fps for 11.5 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. It will still shoot those pellets completely through a cottontail rabbit's noggin at 50 yards. That's about as powerful as I either need or want a "springer" to be. I've had Beeman R-1, Theoben Eliminator and Crusader..... Note the past tense. Still have the "wimpy" Omega and I still have it precisely because power is meaningless without the ability to place it. My .177 R9 has been "de-tuned" to run at a tick under 12 ft/lb for max muzzle energy; I bought a Walther Terrus to try out because they're in the 12 to 13 ft/lb range from stock. The hottest I would ever want a "springer" to be is my .20 R9 running at 15 ft/lbs. Beyond that, they're exponentially harder for me to hit anything with, and I know from shooting small game instantly and totally dead with my old Omega that even at its wimpy 11.5 ft/lb muzzle energy, it has plenty of power for rabbit, squirrel, quail, and chukar partridge (note: i'm hunitng in California, where air rifles are lawful method of take for these species), as far off as I care to shoot those things.
No doubt it would, although I don't know why you would go with such a light pellet for that task. Increased weight at the same velocity equals higher fpe. I have taken raccoons regularly at 25 yards (because that is where my blind is set to the bait station) with my Daystate Regal using 18.13 JSB's. I will occasionally use H&N Barracuda Match for a little extra oomph if I feel like it. The 18.13's are carrying approximately 22 fpe at 25 yards, tons of energy to put a bandit down with proper shot placement, as you indicated. I'm just not a fan of magnum springers. Too finicky. Too hold sensitive. If you want that extra power with accuracy, I think the best way to go is a PCP. JMHO
I can't speak for the gun Rick had, but he is a much bigger guy than I am. What may be heavy cocking effort to me, and what that might mean to him are likely two different things.
@@Vaderdad SO, I have been looking at the Magnum .22 and awesome, came across this Swarm .22. I am looking for a reliable air rifle (SHTF), this Swarm is screwed if the auto feeder wears out or breaks, then what. I do realize that I would be smart to have a extra couple of piston gaskets for when they wear out. How are these in cold weather? Making a video in perfect conditions is not a good review, show this gun in sandy, wet, cold conditions. thanks. I bet a grain of sand in the counter would stop this gun from firing. Just saying. Not a survival weapon.
If this is anything like my Gamo Maxim Elite .22 you'll have screws coming loose, and falling out, all over the place (even after applying Loctite). Worst ones being the magnification ring screw and the 2 cheek piece adjuster screws. Gamo (BSA) Customer Service = 0 out of 10.
SO, I have been looking at the Magnum .22 and awesome, came across this Swarm .22. I am looking for a reliable air rifle (SHTF), this Swarm is screwed if the auto feeder wears out or breaks, then what. I do realize that I would be smart to have a extra couple of piston gaskets for when they wear out. How are these in cold weather? Making a video in perfect conditions is not a good review, show this gun in sandy, wet, cold conditions. thanks. I bet a grain of sand in the counter would stop this gun from firing. Just saying. Not a survival weapon. What do you do if the scope breaks, there is no sights.
@@DirtyMechanicG35 Make a bullet when they are all gone? A pellet can be made from most anything, if it ever came down to SHTF. lol. Mostly I want a durable north climate pellet gun, at approx. 1000 fps, they are deadly at 40 meters.
THEY SAY IT DOES 1300 FPS ,IN MY WORLD THAT SHOULD SEND A LEAD PELLET AT 1100 FPS ,I AM IN PROCESS OF GETTING THIS ,JUST WISH IT SHOT CLOSER TO ADVERTISED CLAIM , IMAGINE IF YOU GET A .177 BARREL ALSO ,IT WOULD SEND PELLETS VERY FAST ,AND SHOOTING 16 - 0 SOMETHING GRAINS IT WOULD DEF BE A GREAT .177 HUNTER , IMAGINE HAVING BOTH BARRELS WITH THIS GUN !
It's nice to see that you guys are still out there showing air rifle on TH-cam THANKS A LOT!🤗
I've had this gun for 5 months. I upgraded the scope to a Hammers - Air Gun Rifle Scope 3-9x40AO Magnum. Since then my shots have been at a consistent dead center at 25 yards. My backyard is only so big, so that's where I have it sighted. That's using Crosman Premier .22 cal Domed Ultra Magnum 14.3 gr. pellets. I also have heavier grained Gamo pellets that perform just as well at the same distance. Note: I took a robin on the very top branch of a tree at 98.7 yds. (I used my range finder). Thought I missed it until it dropped.
I qualified Expert in the army with an M16-A1 with open sights, but that was 33 years ago. My eyesight isn't nearly as good as it once was (I wear glasses now). This gun is just that good. It has a LOT of power for a break barrel, and doesn't break the bank. It does take about 200 shots for the 60 lb pull to settle down. At first I didn't think I'd be able to cock it. Once it breaks in, it's awesome.
Nice review as always. Over a thousand feet per second in a 22 caliber break barrel is impressive.
I still haven't seen one of these guns up close yet so I don't know what to think about some of the comments that I've been reading across the board in the forums and other channels.... That this gun does not hold up well with heavy use over time. The biggest complaint being the accuracy starts to go away. That can be due to a poor lock up joint. Or even the seals going bad.
I bought the Gamo big cat 1400 when it first came out. That was my first true air rifle. I didn't know anything about air rifles at the time.... I was just impressed by the Box stats the Gamo posts... Which we all know are highly inflated..... Anyway...... It did last me 5 years before the polymer lock up joint failed. I did have Gamo replace the barrel and I still use the gun on occasion. It's not a bad rifle it is accurate but very hold sensitive due to the lightweight.
I replaced its active duty with a HATSAN 125 sniper. I am absolutely amazed with that rifles capabilities. It is the first 17 caliber break barrel rifle that I have ever owned that can drive tacks at 50 yards... And get a 5 to 8 inch group at a hundred yards.
I'm not down on Gamo at all. My Gamo Hunter Extreme SE in 22 caliber is also a tack driver at 50 yards. At 100 yards the group is not even worth mentioning. But I love that rifle. I can't believe they discontinued making it. I'm only getting about 780 feet per second with the jsb jumbo heavies. But that's more than enough to do the job within 50 yards. I don't hunt or pest anything beyond 50 yards with a break barrel.
That being said I've rambled enough.
I would like to see a close-up of the lock up on that swarm. The Gamo swarm is a cool invention and advancement in air gun technology..... But I still don't see it being more than something that's marketed to kids.
It sure does still beat the heck out of the daisy 880 that I grew up on.
I use mine for plinking and funnin. I'm not a serious hunter anyway to be honest, but I just find the accuracy inconsistencies too much for me to choose this gamo over other options. The olde offerings from Walther and Weirauch and even Hatsan consistently put pellet shots on top of pellet shots if you do your part.
I wont rag on the Gamo. I've long known what Gamo has been and why I havent owned one for years until the Maxxim Swarm came out. It is offered for a great price point. The loading mechanism has been stone reliable, I enjoy the easy and fast loading mechanism, and it has generally been a fun piece to enjoy general plinking with. Not the choice for precision target shooting tho.
For those of you out there that might happen to have a consistently accurate Gamo, hold onto it and never let 'er go. It's a rare bird.
I have this gun. Power power power!!! I use the crosman 14.3 gr pellets and they are deadly accurate!! The Ruger spiked head pellets also shoot very well out of this gun. Swap it out for a better scope, break it in, and you cant go wrong with this rifle.
How loud is it with the 14 grain pellets
@@LonMoore not loud at all.
Thank you will the neighbors hear it or it's safe no angry neighbors
@Free American i have noticed that with my magnum. i use heavier pellets to keep it from going super-sonic.
@@jimmajr9224 Also pellets aren't so stable at over 850 fps so good to increase weight until you reduce velocity down to that.
I own the original magnum and other than gto and gamo alloy pellets the guns likes jsb exact jumbo monster. At 20 yard you can stack them up in the same hole. It is a very pellet picky rifle but once you find the right pellet it's a joy to hunt with.
i own a gen 1 magnum in .22 cal. i love it. accuracy, power, and multi-shot. i'd have to spend $1000 to get this in any other air rifle. i shoot mine out to 100 yards at targets. wouldn't go more than 70 yards hunting with it though. within that range, it hits HARD.
Everyone is wimping out on cocking these guns, just go to the gym and start working out.
Makes you wonder how much they struggle opening a jar
I m very like it but I don't know that is legal or not which come with suppressor in Canada? Powder cartridge gun with suppressor is not legal for sure in Canada.
I've got this Gamo in my sights. My Silent Cat .177 is my favorite backyard plinker, from a big collection! For the money, vs features & performance, these Gamo's are hard to beat. They are very pellet sensitive though. Not too silent either! But hey, what do people want? Target's pre-punched all over the bulls-eye? That's what makes shooters sharp! Thanks for making these review video's.👍
accuracy seems more realistic thanks for the review. still has amazing power tho
Accuracy is great.
I bought one I was really disappointed with it at first. After a couple hundred pellets shot though it it came into it's own it doesn't like the luxur pellets at all but the red flames it loves
IF THIS IS THE SAME AS GAMO MAGNUM REGULAR ( DID THEY FIX THE BREACH SEAL PROBLEM?????) They put the seal on the barrel block side and it keeps chewing up the seal when closing. BIG PROBLEM! also Gamo doesn't sell parts! They want you to send them the gun to fix!
My gamo wildcat. 177 is hitting over 1350 with pba..
Is the suppresor very large?
Tyler, thanks for the review. Honestly, it's terribly disappointing to see the gun not shoot better. I have a Magnum and a Swarm and planned on getting this gun as well, now I'm wondering if I should. I know you can shoot so don't take this the wrong way but I'm wondering if the gun could shoot better with a little more attention. It took me a while to get my Magnum shooting well but it will group H&N terminators & Sniper Magnums, Gamo red fires at a 1/2" from 40yds. I did clean the cylinder, take off the front site and recrown the barrel as well as a good cleaning of the barrel (but it likes to shoot a dirty "equilibrium" ) but the most important change I think I saw was putting a Diana Bullseye ZR-1 mount and UTG SWAT 30mm 10x50 scope on there. Hold sensitivity... I don't know, I don't think you have to be "sensitive" just consistent. My gun groups in different spots but still at 1/2" if I hold the gun or rest on bags but I think it's just the harmonics, you can hold the gun firm and group well, just has to be the same every time.
Shouldn't have to do this much for an off the shelf gun review. You are reviewing it's "off the shelf value" not it's "modified value". Just dying to know if this gun will perform better with a better scope/mounts. It's a huge THUMP for a gun that light... I wan't to know if it shot poorly because of optics or that suppressor.
if you see the review on Airgun Webtv by Rick...the gun shoots very easy...easy to cock
what must i believe
I tried other scopes on the gun just to make sure it wasn't the factory scope causing an issue and it wasn't. I didn't see any signs of clipping on the suppressor either. It seems that I got a pellet picky one, which happens sometimes. At least it shoots a pellet pretty good out to 45 yards, I've had guns that will not even come close to the 1" mark at that distance, and that is very frustrating.
Oh OK, well thanks for putting in the time and effort. I'm wondering if using the suppressor as leverage for the 40-50lb cocking effort puts the liner that the pellet passes through at a slightly different position each shot and changes the turbulence effect around the skirt enough to skew it's accuracy, even if it doesn't clip the liner.
The fastest lightest pellet grouped the best, hmmm. Also, all my gamo barrels like a small diameter pellet skirt like the H&N's and crossman 5.50 and 5.51's.
Did you try the Sniper Magnum/Light pellets? they might be less influenced by turbulence affect of the suppressor changing position (total "shot" in the dark here, probably over thinking it, could just be the not too consistent Gamo quality control).
find the right pellet
jeff i have the magnum .22 with gamo original scope , i found the GTO to be the right pellet for close distance
Kojaje izlazna brzina ove vazdušne puške unapred hvala
Seeing it has an adjustable trigger, that advantage should have been taken advantage of. At the 45 yard test especially, the gun's potential may have been brought out.
Excellent review as always! Thank you for the info! For my 30 yard shooting this looks like it would fit nicely into my collection? Best wishes friend 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Great rifle bub. Put 1500 thru mine.😁
Would love to see a review on the nova freedom
Me Too!
I need this exact gun with open sights. Sigh! Mabe next year. Come on GAMO!
Open sights with that pellet loader right in the way? Hmm. . . Will be curious to see how that will look.
gurney85 well iam saying get rid of the pellet loader. I have the regular magnum and I love it. I could hit a dip can at 150yds with it. Its just too loud. I ended up getting the hatsan sniper vortex 125. That thing is a beast.
@@samuraiS30v You should see the reviews and videos for the Brocock Batam .22cal Air Rifle
@@Vaderdad I'll Check it out
Not sure if you just didn't shoot it enough or if you are covering for gamo but it's not the hold sensitivity.... It too me like 300 shots to figure it out but its actually the reloading mechanism. You even see in this video that you shoot the same hole twice, and maybe you purposely only shot 5 to not show how bad it is....
It 100% comes down how much room the pellet has in the magazine, based on far you press the pellet down determines how far in the breach it sits. Shorter pellets are basically unusable. Even the longest pellets that I carefully press into the mag has too much room for error. Millimeters of difference in the magazine equals inches down range. I noticed after shooting 20 shot groups because I would get like multiple groupings 1-2 inches apart outside of where I was shooting. And even the best pellet I found hits off about 1/4 shots 2-3 inches off of where I'm aiming at 20 yards.
And its mainly vertical deviation, like 2" horizontal and like 8" vertical with a short pellet.....
Why don't anybody talk about how good the scope is .
Use a bench rest when zeroing your rifle. The groups he showed here were all over the place. That won't happen with most pellets when using a supported position. I zeroed mine in the first five rounds with a half inch group dead center of the target. You may have to buy and shoot many pellets to see which one fires best in your gun. I like the H&N Terminators.
I'm not a big fan of Gamo but I do like the auto load system. I would think it would do better with heavy pellets? My first gen Crosman Venom in .22 is pretty accurate and can it a soup can at 60 yards though I am a bit shaky.
Typically I go to heavier pellets first and I did with this gun, but they just would not shoot nearly as good as the Predator GTO pellets did.
what air rifle tested the overall best in your opinion. great stuff , love your videos!!!!!!!!!!!!
So Ben from "Expert Airgun reviews" in his video claims the rifle shoots around 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards. Not saying it's impossible, just saying that it seems other folks are saying it's bullcrap based on their experiences with the rifle.
Everyone's going to have different experiences with their gun, maybe he got the pick of the litter, maybe he's an incredible shot with a piston gun....could be a number of things. I can only speak for the gun we reviewed.
Fair enough. Just seems...a little fishy... Maybe when this rifle starts to sell and it hits the market we can put his experiences to the test.
Do we need to adjust the scope before to use it!?
obviously.
@@supergodzilla6489 Yes and they float (not good). Buy a different scope.
My scope had no obvious defect but my grouping space went down 50% when I installed basic better scope.
Can it take down hog or deer?
Tyler, you should try shooting that gamo swarm rifle with heavier pellets such as jsb .22cal. 25.39s & H&N Baracuda match 21.14 553mm headsize & observe it's accuracy at 25 -30 yds. rather than using lighter pellets which is not known for accuracy !!! any potential buyer maybe discouraged to see shots way off !!!
Maybe you missed the part where I showed a few other groups with other pellets? Showed a group with the Baracuda Match, they didn't preform well out of this gun. Only pellet that did was the Predator GTO. Tested 16 different pellets.
hi i was wonder can you guy (Pyramyd Air Gun) make a video of how to clean,oil and maintenance the this gun and where can i get the cleaning set for Gamo Swam Magnum .22 ? thanks
What is the price in pakistan
anyone know what happened to the old guy that would do the reviews on theguns?
the fat one.
Kenny passed away
My next GUN very nice.
So, hold sensitive or not? Rick Eutsler claims that his test gun was not hold sensitive. Also, and a point not brought up, is that the Magnum (and its Swarm variant) has issues with breech block (?) tolerance issues, and that shooting this gun with heavier pellets will amplify felt recoil. Not sure if I am sold on the concept of this gun, only time will tell.
If I had to guess, it's going to be gun to gun. This has often been my experience with the lighter weight piston guns. The gun held up very well all things considered as did the scope, that was a big surprise.
is this the unshrouded version?
This one is shrouded
Does this air rifle come out June 18 2018??
Hold sensitive? Maybe the break action is loose. I used to think my hold was bad, but it was the gun, especially as it got older. I found out after shooting consistently well with CO2. What does it matter if it makes 1 million fpe if you can't hit the target consistently? No more break barrel for me.
The locking mechanism and hinge bolts were not loose on this gun. Most of your magnum guns will be more hold sensitive and when it's a gun that only weighs 7.5 lbs, that is amplified.
When you have enormous piston moving before the projectile leaving the barrel, any hinged part will move, especially true with magnums. It's too bad they don't also make this as under/side lever so you can compare hold sensitivity; I suspect fixed barrel will not be as sensitive to hold.
The other benefit to making it an under or side lever would be the additional weight to help stabilize and take some of the recoil. But that's not what Gamo is going for, they never have. It's all about velocity. And that makes for guns that are very hard to shoot well.
Can you put pressure on Gamo and others to make under/side lever gun with fixed barrel with just as much power? You can threaten them that they may lose one guy (me) as a customer by not offering as such. :-) Next I'll be asking for opposed piston underlever. :-) :-) :-)
Great Review Tyler
Rick said it was not hold sensative
Handsome Frog, that’s true, I watched his review and he said not hold sensitive and easy to cock. Who do you believe?
Great air rifle bro and good video also long time ago I ask you to share your gun collection on this channel
what no JSB Exacts....?
Tried them, no luck on paper. Typically groups at 45 yards were 1.5 - 2" with them
How Much This One@@
Great video review,thanks
Rs
You are looking sooo nice too. the airgun is sooo coolllll
Christ. I've watched alot of these videos from different people. This is infinity better than anything i've seen. Certainly better than t hammer's, gun in mom's basement review. LOL. Keep going guys, and i'll keep on buyin. Love your stuff.
Why blaspheme? /
To you, he is a god. To me, it's just a name. I could have used "Pete", but christ has a fun ring to it.
Have owned mine for about 2 months only negative thing I have to say is the scope sucks. Great gun, buy a different scope.
Hola amigos
Hola soy de Colombia compré un rifle gamo Replay 10 y no trajo multy shot como hago para comprar un multi shott
I think I will stick with my .22 Swarm Maxxim. I don't think the extra power is worth the greater cocking effort, hold sensitivity , and cost.
Do you like your .22 Swarm Maxxim?
Greater power is hard to pass on though.
Isn't it the same power? 1300 fps with alloy pellets.
who sells a rifle with a 1" group at 30 yards capability thats criminal there is not an air gunner in the UK that would use that for hunting .
phantomshTTer it’s not bullshit I shot at 150 yards with same gun same scope I got a really good group I love this gun shot and killed a rabbit at 100 yards
I don't see you zeroing with a bench rest. Without this you can't have the actual consistency of the gun and the pellets you are shooting. why not sighting in with a bench rest?
When are you guys going to get them in? Lol
🇺🇸 NICE VIDEO BROTHER !🇺🇸 I AM GOING TO BE SHOOTING 357 HOLLOWPOINTS INTO DIFFERENT THINGS TO SEE WHATS THE BEST EXPANSION FOR 357 CAL. BULLETS ! I JUST LOVE WATCHING ALL THE AIRGUN CHANNELS , THANK YOU !😎
A magnum springer is an oxymoron in my opinion. Springers are about finesse and accuracy, not power.
If you want that level of power and accuracy, get a PCP. I would only use this gun for medium game out to 20 yards, i.e. raccoons from a blind at night or something similar.
Good review Tyler. Appreciate your no nonsense, tell it like it is style.
I share your opinion. To me, the "sweet spot" of spring-piston power and precision is around 12 ft/lbs. I have such a rifle; an old Webley Omega that shoots .177, 8.44 JSB Exacts at 785 fps for 11.5 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. It will still shoot those pellets completely through a cottontail rabbit's noggin at 50 yards. That's about as powerful as I either need or want a "springer" to be. I've had Beeman R-1, Theoben Eliminator and Crusader..... Note the past tense. Still have the "wimpy" Omega and I still have it precisely because power is meaningless without the ability to place it. My .177 R9 has been "de-tuned" to run at a tick under 12 ft/lb for max muzzle energy; I bought a Walther Terrus to try out because they're in the 12 to 13 ft/lb range from stock. The hottest I would ever want a "springer" to be is my .20 R9 running at 15 ft/lbs. Beyond that, they're exponentially harder for me to hit anything with, and I know from shooting small game instantly and totally dead with my old Omega that even at its wimpy 11.5 ft/lb muzzle energy, it has plenty of power for rabbit, squirrel, quail, and chukar partridge (note: i'm hunitng in California, where air rifles are lawful method of take for these species), as far off as I care to shoot those things.
You'll get no argument from me on that one. I'd rather take a PCP all day.
its a gas ram not a springer. And yeah agreed, a PCP is the way to go for power
It has a gas strut for a spring instead of a metallic coil. It's still a form of spring, driving a piston.
No doubt it would, although I don't know why you would go with such a light pellet for that task. Increased weight at the same velocity equals higher fpe. I have taken raccoons regularly at 25 yards (because that is where my blind is set to the bait station) with my Daystate Regal using 18.13 JSB's. I will occasionally use H&N Barracuda Match for a little extra oomph if I feel like it. The 18.13's are carrying approximately 22 fpe at 25 yards, tons of energy to put a bandit down with proper shot placement, as you indicated.
I'm just not a fan of magnum springers. Too finicky. Too hold sensitive. If you want that extra power with accuracy, I think the best way to go is a PCP. JMHO
Just over 1000fps is far from the 1600-1300fps claimed 😕
1600 is in .177 with the regular magnum. 1300 is with a pba platinum pellet. Mine gets to 1260. Close enough.
what am I to believe now?....the review from Airgun Webtv by Rick...he says that the magnum shoots very easy
very easy cocking
He is paid to say that, its how he makes a living. watch unbiased video' like this one and others that will tell you honestly.
I can't speak for the gun Rick had, but he is a much bigger guy than I am. What may be heavy cocking effort to me, and what that might mean to him are likely two different things.
You CAN'T go with this in the woods!
Why not?
@@Vaderdad SO, I have been looking at the Magnum .22 and awesome, came across this Swarm .22. I am looking for a reliable air rifle (SHTF), this Swarm is screwed if the auto feeder wears out or breaks, then what. I do realize that I would be smart to have a extra couple of piston gaskets for when they wear out. How are these in cold weather? Making a video in perfect conditions is not a good review, show this gun in sandy, wet, cold conditions. thanks. I bet a grain of sand in the counter would stop this gun from firing. Just saying. Not a survival weapon.
@@rickanderson7557 I think this might be perfect for dispatching a nuisance animal trapped in a cage or if you want maybe just snipe em.
Needs a laminate wood stock.
If this is anything like my Gamo Maxim Elite .22 you'll have screws coming loose, and falling out, all over the place (even after applying Loctite). Worst ones being the magnification ring screw and the 2 cheek piece adjuster screws.
Gamo (BSA) Customer Service = 0 out of 10.
Can the ammuntion used here (pellets) kill rats(rodents)?
SO, I have been looking at the Magnum .22 and awesome, came across this Swarm .22. I am looking for a reliable air rifle (SHTF), this Swarm is screwed if the auto feeder wears out or breaks, then what. I do realize that I would be smart to have a extra couple of piston gaskets for when they wear out. How are these in cold weather? Making a video in perfect conditions is not a good review, show this gun in sandy, wet, cold conditions. thanks. I bet a grain of sand in the counter would stop this gun from firing. Just saying. Not a survival weapon. What do you do if the scope breaks, there is no sights.
Rick Anderson why are you relying on a PELLET GUN for survival?! Lol
@@DirtyMechanicG35 Make a bullet when they are all gone? A pellet can be made from most anything, if it ever came down to SHTF. lol. Mostly I want a durable north climate pellet gun, at approx. 1000 fps, they are deadly at 40 meters.
When my Swift Maxim auto feeder broke, GAMO sent me a new autoloader but I just kept on shooting singleshot.
Do less pointing at stuff and get more Hands-On
THEY SAY IT DOES 1300 FPS ,IN MY WORLD THAT SHOULD SEND A LEAD PELLET AT 1100 FPS ,I AM IN PROCESS OF GETTING THIS ,JUST WISH IT SHOT CLOSER TO ADVERTISED CLAIM , IMAGINE IF YOU GET A .177 BARREL ALSO ,IT WOULD SEND PELLETS VERY FAST ,AND SHOOTING 16 - 0 SOMETHING GRAINS IT WOULD DEF BE A GREAT .177 HUNTER , IMAGINE HAVING BOTH BARRELS WITH THIS GUN !
I guarantee it breaks in less then 1 year. I don't trust gamo.
But still the crappy rail
Gamos SUCK !!!!! No quality control at all