Rock Vocal Compression | Best Explanation With Exercises
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Now I hear this Foo Fighters line like: I got a lot of compression to make
Haha - THANKS! Now, me too!!! LOL!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
just quick note for myself xd
ssss- 4:45
jumping into water - 6:40, 8:20
hold more/less amount of air out - 10:27
more activity from abdomen- 11:10
6:49 “hits blunt” this how we ganna sing this shit boys.
😂😂😂
Best video I've seen so far, he's not trying to "hide" part of the information to sell something, he's actually explaining a technique as it is. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! Appreciate your kind comments 😊💕
I have never laughed so much in my life I wish all my teachers were like you my man
Hi Mark, thank you for that extraordinary compliment, I really appreciate that! 😁🙏🏼
I am so grateful that I found this video last week. I've been struggling to find compression control for so long, but the minute you said jumping under water it clicked! In one week it has literally changed my singing and practice. I can't even begin to explain how big a difference it has made. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
You're so welcome! I'm so glad to hear it worked for you! Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
I came for side-chain and parallel processing tips but I stayed for the laid back 'tude. Good info in this video.
from Ethiopia amazing thank you
Cool . i'll try this today
One of the best explanations of compression that I have found. The balloon and jumping into the pool examples made a lot of sense. Thanks!
Jim, awesome explanation and exercises. I have struggled with this concept, but now you have shown me the way. Thanks
That’s the best explanation that I ever had
wow, simple n effective!
Yes it is my favorite topic.
You can sing for sure
you deserve more views my brother, your video are so helpful. Mad respect!
Glad it helped! I really appreciate you saying that - thank you!
Awesome lesson-awesome teacher. Thanks!
My pleasure! Glad you liked it! 😊👍🏼
Thanks so much man. This is seriously the first video that really helped me learn how to do this. Liked and subbed :)
Hey Chazz - so glad to hear that it helped! Many thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
this channel needs 300k or 3 million subs , masses are asses and will never appreciate such a quality rock vocal coach like this , the society is nothing without passionate rock music to spark the fire out !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much Varun! really appreciate your positive feedback - it is my Dharma to serve! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Just found this guy, he is awesome! I was looking for some new vox warmups. I wish I could find a golf instructor as chill and easy to understand as he is.
Wow - thank you! My golf game is pretty crappy, but I could put some pretty chill lessons up here - LOL! Just kiddding... thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Exactly what I needed thanks man
Hey Jeff, so glad to hear it was of value - happy to serve! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
thank you! thank you! thank you! it worked instantly. i am so happy hitting such high notes that easy right now. i think its save to say: you made my year!
Awesome! You’ve made my day knowing that it worked for you and you are so happy hitting high notes - I LOVE TO HEAR THAT! Congratulations!!! 😊👍🏼
I've been looking so long for a good explanation of compression, but after hearing your analogy with the baloon it finally clicked for me... everything suddenly makes much more sense.
Thanks Patrick! Glad it helped!
this guy is so damn good
Wow, you explained it so well! Thanks for the video! I have practiced this a lot before but watching your video I realized I need to actually have less air in my lungs to really get the sound I wanted
This is not technology correct. Breathing out is what takes effort. Breathing in takes no effort and is provided by atmospheric pressure. I learned this in medical classes.
Glad it was helpful!
can you do steven tyler
Makes sense. Thanks.
You're very welcome my friend! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Thanks a lot for this lesson! Now I got another compression to make though
Glad it helped! - "BEST COMMENT EVER" award goes to you! LOL 😂👍
I love this video and I learned so much. I sing R&B but I love rock music and it’s always been apart of the soundtrack of my life 🥰❤
Thank you! Glad it helped! 😊👍🏼
Dude. This is so cool. I will try this now.
Great! Have fun and let me know how it goes
Well explained..
I am sold.
😂 Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!
As a modern deathcore vocalist i can safely do false chord screams, but this video really helped me get a small amount of distortion to my singing. thank you 🙏
Wow awesome! So glad to help! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Can I ask - What part helped you the most?
I learned so much from these videos
Hi Jolesy, so glad to hear they help you - I really appreciate you being here and subscribing for more tips coming soon (as soon as my voice rehabilitates from Covid)
Nice one, bruv. Good lesson.
Glad you liked it! thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Awesome tip!
Glad it was helpful!
Explained so well.
Thank you! 😊👍🏼
This is indeed the best explanation. Thank you so much sir
You are most welcome!
Cool... Thanksssss
Welcome 😊 Glad you liked it and thanks for watching and leaving a comment - much appreciated!
I laughed and I also Understood. I am so new to this vocal frying and distorting etc. I wanna at least learn to sing more raspy like a rock singer..And you have really explained this sooooo well. Love it. Thank you.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! Appreciate you! I’m glad to hear this video helped you 😊👍🏼
Is this technique bad for vocal cords? Is it safe? One vocalost told me that its not and it shouldn't be abused. Is this true?
Engagement! Thanks for the videos buddy.
My pleasure thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Actually you can control the diaphragm. You can hold the diaphragm down and let the lungs slowly deflate. It is a bit uncomfortable, but you can do it.
Thank you Jim, man when you talked while holding your breath and pushed with your abdomen, that also can be considered as an exercise as well right? I feel like this can help us to get used to using compression 😊
Yes, of course and GREAT POINT! Anything you do that helps you to practice this type of 'muscle memory' can be considered an 'exercise'... often I just walk around holding my breath and letting the SMALLEST amount of 'squeaky noise' out my nasal cavity.... SUPER ANNOYING for people around me, but HEY - you GOTTA keep VOCALLY FIT, right? LOL!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
Total Jack Nicholson face in the movie The Shinning!
i love your videos
Thank you so much - that means the WORLD to me to hear that! you just made my day!!! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
These are perfect explanations! Expected more views here...
Hey Tim, thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it... I always expect more views, so I agree! 🤣🤪😂 Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment - I appreciate you! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
@@RockYourBestVocals you are really good teacher!
Thank you for this! I finally got this to work when I pulled my chest resonance from the mask Back to the back teeth
Glad it helped! thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Hi Jim! Would you say this is like another take at curbing? I'm teaching singing since a month and I've got a young fellar who's really into hard rock, so now I'm also really curious about learning these things. I know CVT pretty well and the compression sound, sounds like the hold in curbing, but then the sound is much different! But is it the same feeling? Cause then I know from where to explore!
Hey I’m not sure what that term means, because it sounds very specific to CVT which I never got into. I just like to explain things as simply as possible. Einstein said ‘if you can’t explain something simply, you don’t understand it yourself’ 🤷🏼♂️
That zoom killed me 😅. Thanks for explaining the technique to me as a newbee (in his 40s).
Hey man, great lesson. I'll be singing better than my front man if I stay with you. BTW, I'm going to borrow your hand gestures to explain how the diaphragm moves to teach patients with breathing difficulty how to breath.
Hi Rodger, Glad you enjoyed it! Send your front man this way so he can catch up to you - haha! BTW go ahead and borrow the hand gestures... I have some more breathing tips coming soon! Many of the classical masters described breathing down into their lower back as if their buttocks are balloons and they are trying to fill them up.... hope that helps!
Thank you! So when I do compression I can't go past E4-F4# and it sounds like old man constipated. lol. I'm only 45.:) In songs I usually sing lighter but when a line comes up to hit F4#/G4, I go into this compressed sound but it sounds ridiculously squeezed and unnatural, plus hard to articulate clearly that high. Is it supposed to get easier the more I practice and also able to go higher?
Hi Vlad, it's almost impossible to tell what you are actually doing and help without hearing you... I have a super cheap deal on wiseo ($20) where you can shoot me a video or audio file that I can hear what you are doing and feedback... It may be that you are just compressing too much, but again, almost impossible to give feedback without hearing you... Wiseo link is here if you want to try that: www.wisio.com/RockYourBestVocals Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
I hear all the bass potential you have in your speaking voice and I think that is key to sounding good too, I can barely have any low end anywhere in my voice, is there a way to add that or am i just stuck sounding like a kid at even though I'm 30? Like even my low notes around A2 are mostly made of fry.
Hi, and thank you for the comment/question! The grass is always greener! My voice was even higher before getting Covid in Dec 2019 (for some reason it's going deeper - perhaps age related also) If you listen to Sebastian Bach he has an extraordinarily high speaking voice. I believe the way to get good at lower register is to keep working on your support to generate enough 'pressure' for your cords to vibrate well enough when loose and "low"
the word "break " at 8:53 sounded very much like joe walsh
the intro to this video 🤣
Great explanation of compression! My understanding about open throat technique is that it’s all bout how you form and modify vowels with your tongue and soft palate though. You would still use proper support and compression with that technique I believe🤘☺️
Indeed, support is key in any instance - it's the foundation which is why everyone likes to say 'just sing from your diaphragm' (like it's just that easy - haha!)
@@RockYourBestVocals I guess it is after you’ve figured it out, took me a long ass time tho 😆
Helpful and also entertained your clip. 😂
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment 😊🙏🏽
Few questions from a fellow voice teacher !!
1. What should this feel like ?? Pain wise lol. I think I just have the gain the muscles , but my voice does get tired pretty quickly from doing this .
2. Does this apply to holding a clean note and then adding compression later on in the note ?? Because if I'm not starting a note with a harsh glottal , how do I get the compression to start up in the middle of the phrase/note ??
3. I usually "grunt" (like a Christina Aguilera type growl) . Is this similar in any way , or not even anywhere near it ??
4. I feel like this is sort of like valsalva and I know that not to be great for the voice , causing too much subglottic pressure . What is the difference between this technique and valsalva ??
Sorry to bombard you with so many questions , I'm genuinely trying to learn for myself and so I can teach my students LOL. Great explanations , thank you !!!!
Hi Emi, I'll do my best to answer you
1. Pain is always bad in my opinion.. As far as tiring, if you've never done any pushups you would get tired very quickly too, yes? I think maybe it's just persistent work to develop the muscles and muscle memory.
2. Compression is the product of expulsion pressure of air against the holding back of air... think of a balloon in your hands if you hold the balloon with the 'opening' at the top and push up on the bottom the air will come out (unless you hold the 'nozzle' closed). Hope that makes sense!
3. As for the Christina growl, without seeing/hearing how you accomplish that I wouldn't know. I'm sure you can appreciate that can be done in different ways and also I'm sure you can appreciate that it's hard (almost impossible) to understand and answer some things with mere words...
4. I've never heard of 'valsalva' so I'm not sure (I am not trained in the 'academics' - I just share what has worked for me to get my clients' results). I do understand 'too much' subglottic pressure can be 'bad', but how much is 'too much'? I always do my best to release the pressure 'just enough' for a balance.
If you want to book a free 15min zoom consultation (via my website) I can address point 3 better, otherwise I hope I've helped you!
All the best, Jim
@@RockYourBestVocals That would be great !!! How do I do that ???
RockYourBestVocals.com and go to private sessions and “apply” button… looking forward to seeing you!
What muscles do you use to hold the air back? If it comes from squeezing the throat, isn’t that dangerous?
I explain this in my new course (being announced soon!) keep an eye out as it is short and sweet to the point (approx 1hr) focused on results that anyone can get (and after it you’ll have a good grasp of everything that will answer that question and more)
The part that I cannot figure out is the transition from the croaky super compressed quiet sounds into using that for loud and powerful vocal parts. Also, when I try this I quickly feel like I need to cough- what am I doing incorrectly?
I can make the sound at the end just fine but I have no idea how to transition from that to what it’s actually supposed to sound like when singing.
Hi! if you feel the need to cough, it's likely because you are pushing too much air through your vocal cords and irritating them. (that will cause damage over long periods of time, so if you feel that, stop!) Try holding back your air, and maybe consider 1:1 sessions with me to improve where I can show you things to do to achieve this.
@@RockYourBestVocals Thank you so much for the fast reply! After some trial and error I found if I focus more on the core I naturally constrict the air more and stop that problem. Thank you so much for the help! :) I'm still uncertain on transitioning from the squeaky sounds to powerful singing like you do at 11:17. I can make all the previous sounds in the video but that is where I am getting stuck!
hmm, I studied for years with a great opera singer who also sings rock. He always said fill the room with air. We need a lot of air. Unfortunately, I always get tired when I sing higher songs. Even on lower songs. Maybe that's my problem. I'll try it. Thank you!
I'd be interested in the opera singer that said that because I've recently gotten into learning more about opera singers and from what I've heard so far - they all talk about using as little air as possible to create a sound... In fact, there is a classical technique called "inalare" which you have the feeling of 'inhaling' the note (although not inhaling, you are releasing only a slight amount of air).... something to think about!
@@RockYourBestVocals Now I think he's got it wrong. I think that's a reason for my problems. But I can't say for sure until I've learned to sing with compression/less air.
Sure, if you want information on the method, I can send you some. A lot of things are really good in this method and have opened my eyes.
Should I send the things to your info mail address?
Yes, that would be awesome - I'd love to see it; info@rockyourbestvocals.com
As you’ve toured with Cher - what do you think of her voice? She’s so underrated imo
We only did the one support slot with her in Belfast SSE arena 2019... thought she was phenomenal and SUCH an incredibly nice and inspiring person - all the years she's done this, and not jaded in the slightest! Love her!
@@RockYourBestVocals I adore Belfast. Wish we went more. She seems so honest and interesting. Can’t wait to hear her 2 new albums.
Most rock vocal coach talk out their ass lol but Jim actually knows what he's on about
Wow! Thank you for that huge compliment, really appreciate your support! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
I find myself starting off correctly, but then unconsciously, the sound starts to come from my throat. Help?
"I GOT ANOTHER CONFE-"
I do inhale, but my voice just doesn't change.
Is this helpful for phonatory gap?
Yes, the compression/glottal stop method will - see this article: www.christellaantoni.co.uk/mind-gap-breathy-singer/
Im not being able to sing Don't cry guns and roses the high part is very hard .. you got any tips?
Keep practicing it! You WILL get it eventually, just never give up and always BELIEVE that you CAN achieve it!
Are you holding back air with your abdominal muscles or with your false folds? Or is it a little of both?
Hi Justin, holding back the air is just by not trying to push air out - it's challenging to explain in text, but as an exercise, you could try singing in front of a match or lighter and trying not to blow it out (caution: try that at your own risk!) Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!!! 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
An easy way to do it is to pretend you're pooping. You will notice a closing sensation in your throat. Those are your false folds closing. Now do the same movement but don't close fully and produce a sound while doing so. It should be compressed now. If you add more volume, your false fold distortion will kick in.
What does it mean if my throat feels scratchy after trying this out?I think i'm doing something wrong even though it sounds perfect
Scratchy or irritated throat means your true cords are being used, and feeling irritated as a result. This must be avoided to prevent damage.
Hello, if i fell neck tension (my throat is in great condition) do i do something wrong?
It's almost impossible to tell if you're doing something wrong, so I'd suggest booking a 15min consultation for FREE: calendly.com/rockyourbestvocals/gen-private-session-application-15-min-consul-clone?month=2023-11
First time I’m trying it. Kinda of got it I think. Is my neck supposed to feel a bit funny afterwards or am I doing something wrong? 😅
Awesome that you're trying and getting it! As for your neck, as long as 'funny' doesn't hurt then I'm sure it's fine... it may feel different than you are used to and I'm sure that's fine as long as it doesn't HURT (pain is the enemy!)
Is compression same as edge vocal technique?
Hey I guess you’re referring to CVT method? I don’t know what edge is, but compression is simply using your abdominal and related expulsion muscles to create upward pressure while restricting airflow similar to yelling underwater while trying to make zero bubbles… make sense?
very great video! i got the compression part but sadly I couldn't get any raspy voice after that
I kinda sound like Dumbledore or any old man while compressing LMAO
You can always come back to it and try later... sometimes after a little bit of messing around, you will find it... that's how I did it - just by messing around (although without someone specifically showing me, took me ages to figure out!)
Whenever i am trying to sing like that, i get nausea and dizzy just after a minute or so of singing... My neck veins pop out too and it kinda hurts. Probablyy my breath control sucks or i am doing something else wrong. Can anyone help me about what can get rid of all those problems??
Most vocal issues come back to support. How much/often do you dedicate to strengthening your support?
@@RockYourBestVocals i am not sure what you mean, but i never had any vocal teacher and rarely i do vocal exercises.. im no singer, just a guitarist in a band which really needs that rock distorted voice. Im not sure what my next steps are towards singing and thats why i came to you.. have you got anything to suggest to me??
Open throat technique has nothing to do with pushing more air. It has to do with the resonant quality of the voice and not allowing the soft palate to drop too low to where you choke off your consonants. Open throat technique is a must for proper singing, and also must be paired with vocal compression (referring simply to the holding back of air) just like anything else we do.
Great points Justin! Nobody I ever heard talk about it explained it that way, but since this video and studying some Classical techniques I agree with you
OMG I GOT IT...one time...then lost it 😂
that means you can get it AGAIN... don't quit!
When I try to do this, I always end up creating the sound with the throat instead of the diaphragm.
I get that totally, because I've been there too... try thinking of starting it off with a loud forceful laugh and focus on the lower abs doing the work... and once you start off the note, just keep pushing from the lower abdominal and see if that works for you. There are several other things that I could suggest because different things work for different people.... but too much to list here
Well, I can hold the same note for the same length at the end of the video, clean and loud, so I guess I am compressing at some basic level. But when it comes to adding grit, "pushing more from the abdomen" etc, that doesn't seem to come together.
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is it normal for it to hurt singing like this? i feel like i'm going to explode
It shouldn't hurt, no... you may feel a 'pressure' but it may be that you are closing off, causing tension and too much pressure in the throat. I have a new course coming soon that explains this in a simpler way that will help you. Stay tuned/subscribed to see that - or sign up to my email on the website to be updated on when it comes out
12:08 Jim found his hidden pot he thought he had lost
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is this what Little Richard is going ?
Who would've thunk? The art of sucking in air and letting it out slowly, mmm.
Why does your speaking voice remind me of Dave Grohl lol
Hmmm not sure, 🤔but that can't be all bad! 🤘😎🤘
@@RockYourBestVocals Not bad at all!
Dad?
Lol - Matt?
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