Revisiting MLP Creepypasta (Muffins Deep Dive)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2023
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The Muffins art used in the thumbnail was drawn by Brvtaldeath!
Other MLP artwork created by Mewsical, Koshi-Doshi, SpeedyFluffyMuffin, Squipycheetah, Termi92, Ask Paranoid Twilight, and Rainbott
Fluttershy TBH creature meme drawn by missmagicalgirl9724! Love it sm!
The music used was an 8-bit covers of MLP songs to set the mood!
Videos or artwork of MLP Creepypastas are taken directly from official cover art or TH-cam readings of the stories.
All chapter covers used in my Muffins Saga summary are taken directly from uploads of the story on Deviantart, Quotev, and TH-cam. These images were created by the fanfiction's author.
Any additional artwork used in this video is credited with text on screen, but you can also find links to the Muffins Rescripted artists in Minkie Pie's gallery page.
Fan animations used as additional footage:
Danzei Animation (Rainbow Factory MAP)
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Alligator in the Tub
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Krunkidle
• CARTOON HORSE PROGRAM!...
Piemations
• My Little Doomsday: Ap...
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• [SFM] The exorcism [Ha...
tiarawhy
• My little Paradox
OmegaOzone
• Want It, Need It (Hold...
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• Your nightmare
EdPlus777
• Rarity's New Patterns
Spaghettio666
• CUPCAKES HD but I anim...
Makaryo
• THE FOREVER WEED BROWN...
SFS Animation
• Muffins.pon
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• Derpy's Perfect Math C...
doubleWbrothers
• Derpy With A Knife
Magpiepony
• Original Grimdark MLP ...
TheInvertedShadow
• The Union of the Eleme...
And of course, last but not least, MisterDavie
• Cupcakes HD
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Icing on the Cake (READ HERE) ⬇️
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If this video does insanely well, I will consider doing a sequel for rewriting Lil Miss Rarity 👀
Thank y’all for all of the amazing comments! I love hearing everyone’s personal experiences with a subject like this, especially when your perspectives are different than my own. It gives me a chance to learn more about the spooky pony stories I grew up with! Thank you! 💚💜
OH!, I MAY UPGRADE MY LIL MR STARLIGHT AU IF YA CAN DO THAT.:D (and figure out the rest of him too-), MORE, MORE CHILDHOOD REWRITES!!!!!!!!!! ^^❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Oooh, I'm interested!
@@queeniedramanicole9427 I copied this from another comment I responded to with said lore and such, so basically it says.
"No kidding, that's why I made my au, lil mr starlight, more tame in comparison, at least at the pain kink part.•^• (if ya want a depiction, imagine lil mr starlight holding a little tea cup full of blood, witch resembles to things like whips and clawing but nothing further than that or anything similar when it comes to pain, and than imagine lil miss raritys witch is like a god damn ocean in comparison.•^•), but the pain kink didn't happen cuz he liked it, he mentally broke when accidentally killing wyatt and so brutally too when hacked, and than killed sarah in a fit of grief and hatred, (Semi) relearned walking in order to get to sarah, his eye broke cuz of the fight, after that he mentally broke, I didn't make lolli or pop or etc his sweetie bell version cuz no fucking duh, so I had to go with winnie, whos the only one that of age and actually deserving too.(he preforms for only adults too and O N L Y adults depending on what play his doing, mainly only adults tho cuz its hard for him to be in child friendly plays sense the incident, and also due to what he got interested in later on after mentally breaking, sexually and gorey wise, saying gorey wise cuz he became a yandere after, he still does theater of course and his favorite he's performed was heathers and SIX.), he also made a plushie with the remains of sarah, witch who ever is watching.(and if the imagination is of age), it can be of anyone, for me I imagine it as myself.(witch the age gap to me and lewis now is about 3 or 4 years old, I'm almost 20 myself, and I can only guess that lewis was almost 23 or 24, or if i can guess the youngest, 21 years old, I'm trying my best to not sound bad or weird cuz im not like that type of weird but I don't think its working.qwq, I'm horrible with words.zwz/qwq), anyways, it depends on the watcher, it can be of anyone, including wyatt himself or your own oc's.:>, as long as its legal and isn't harmful to anyone else somehow, I'll be happy with that.uwu"
OML i thought i put alot of these Creepypastas behind me but when i found ur video in recommendations i immediately remembered these creepy pastas, not necessarily a bad thing but a sort of Dark Nostalgia i guess.
@@SilverFlashGameChannel both good creature wise, like the rainbow factory.uwu, And bad creature wise, like the muffins.•^•
I remember having like a huge argument with the author of muffins saga when I was 14 💀
WAIT WHAT HOW?? 💀💀
Omg 😂 how did that go?
@@daisydaisyrust considering the author is unhinged as shit, I'd guess it ended horribly 💀
@@princkleminckle1159 They're completely insane. They got into arguments with random people in the comment section all the time, no matter what. They need help super badly man.
@@ezekieldreibein dude you're not supposed to mention her name
I think the worst creepypasta I was exposed to as a kid was Sweet Apple Massacre. It was straight up just pedo incest gore porn.
Same 😔
what the fuck 😨 i'm glad i never saw that uhm...
i read a synopsis of it and i wanna kms help me
You just unlocked a memory I forgot I had 💀
I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO MENTION THIS ONE. SWEET APPLE MASSACRE IS THE WORST THING IVE EVER READ. i tried to reread it last week and it was so bad i had to stop. i can’t believe i read that when i was younger.
I honestly like Little Miss Rarity, but it's definitely not for kids and it's a shame that so many minors stumbled upon it
That’s totally fair! I can see the appeal :>
If I knew what it was going into it, I probably wouldn’t have been as jumpscared ^^
I haven't seen it myself, but Little Miss Rarity seems Interesting~^^
{Should I check it out?}
@@MollyDollyy774if you are not an adult yet please don’t, if you are proceed with caution
@@MollyDollyy774 It's a lot of violence and sexual themes. If you want to go searching for it I would say to only do it if taboo themes like that bother you.
Yeah, I was like 10 when I first saw it and I'm glad I didn't know how to traverse tumblr back then, so I stuck to the fandubs on youtube. And yet I still used to be confused sometimes as to why is Rarity making that face when she gets hurt lol. I like being stupid sometimes.
I lost all respect for the author of Muffins, but I'm obsessed with the story
What happened with the author? Did they do something bad
@@DuncanDonutzRAWRXDI thought they were proven false?
@@missmadness564 to my knowledge a lot of the stuff Isaac talks about is accurate and is backed up by current video evidence, such as the author's statements about teens having their "sexy parts" and justifying being attracted to a teenager as an adult, misgendering Isaac several times, transphobic TERF behaviour and blaming an SA victim, among other things that were discussed in Isaac's video (though i'm not exactly sure what you're referring to with Isaac being proven "false"). there is a plethora of examples on the author's wordpress of this stuff too as well as videos that are still up on her channel. if you want to do research, please be careful going on the author's wordpress as there are uncensored SH images and they are _pretty_ bad.
Bro I remember the author of muffins called me homophobic because I made a joke about "girl in red" 💀💀
@@PhoenixNerd0945wtf can you explain the story? Lmao
I’m gonna be honest the author might of projected their own traumas and stresses onto Minkie. From what sounds like projection of religious trauma, to venting through Minkie… yeah.
As someone who used the watch the author’s content religiously when it was coming out, kinda? It’s less projecting religious trauma and more that they think religion is stupid
@@entrancedsnow7076 There is definitely some religious trauma there, that's how the author came to that conclusion.
People that are evil do use religion and abuse others saying that it's Gods will. God wishes peace Romans 12:17
Anyways her Minkie character I like but I don't like the author's random plots and attitude towards others in general. From what I've heard she'll start an argument when you compliment her or shit(sound like yandere dev anyone? Okay I'll digress and see myself out with this point)
God bless her soul but she needs to work on her spirit more rather than fanfiction.
@@cupcakesfanficgameslover5792 Respectfully, I don't really think she's comparable to yanderedev. And considering that she's been driven to near-suicide twice by people harassing her over this drama I think the harassers are the ones who maybe need to "work on their spirits".
It's not that she's never done anything wrong, but I do think the backlash and harassment has gone far beyond what is acceptable.
She IS a representation of her trauma and own ideals.
The biggest thing that frustrated me with this series is how the bakers always won. The last crusade was especially frustrating because Sweetie and Scoots worked so hard and it would have been so satisfying to see Sweetie taking revenge like she was planning to. Like you can’t just make the bakers win every time it’s bad story telling. It makes them less engaging
Give me the pros and cons of this story because I want to read it :)
FRR
@@MO-NO517
It's pretty much just child torched/gore porn
I couldn't agree more.
I’m ngl I enjoy it 😭
When people talk about the main cast of mlp I feel like ppl forget spike!? There was episode in mlp talking about him being a dumb side character, so it’s such shame no one used him in grim dark that I know of?
I adore Spike! When he’s written well, he’s a very strong character. I would’ve included him on my list, but there aren’t really enough creepypastas about him specifically 💔
I demand justice for Spike. Us purple/green guys gotta stick together! 💚💜
@@yoliidani5150 it’s missing?
Go and read Feed Them. It’s an MLP pasta that around Spike
@@nicolebriant98I was gonna comment this! Love Feed Them!
Whoever called that adorable dragon whelp dumb can catch my glitchy screen shredding hands
I've known the author of Muffins since 2014, so I'm unfortunately a witness to the said drama and how dangerously easy it is to set her off. I think she's going to get mad at this and will try to do something about it.
Good luck.
I tried to be as respectful as possible when writing everything, even when doing my silly TH-camr recap, so I hope there aren’t any hard feelings for too long. /gen
It’s a really neat surprise to see you on one of my videos, though! I’ve heard a lot about your work and it sounds really fun, so I’ll definitely have to check it out sometime. Regardless, thank you for the heads up, I appreciate it. 💚
@@Rainbott Sure thing, I just thought a warning was necessary. 😅 I'm interested in your rewritten version, it sounds refreshing actually.
Damn, two TH-camrs I used to be obsessed with as a kid knew each other??? Kind of amazing.
You know shit has gone down when another horror mlp themed author is warning you
@@randompromises1038 Not personally. We only interacted a few times on DeviantArt.
As a person who listens to a majority of mlp creepypastas, I would genuinely be interested in either reading or wait until your version of muffins is released in video form 😭
theyre writing their own version of muffins?? epic
I would love to hear that
diagnosed autistic here, your friend's notes are genuinely fucking hilarious. SO HAPPY u got an autistic on there to help you point out the horrendous amount of ableism in there holy shit, u got a new subscriber btw :)
Ok
@@makinyoumad9498casual and straight tø the pøint, 10/10 cømment
@@makinyoumad9498 i can't tell if this is agreement, acknowledgement, or passive aggressiveness. /gen
I was never in the MLP Creepypasta fandom so watching this video was a trip and a half😀
hehe even thinking abt this is a funny scenario
same omg
Same. I have no clue what any of those creepypasta's are, except for a vague knowledge of cupcakes from a meme I stumbled across when I was still new to the internet that horrified me. 😂
I feel like after being pressured for literally months to continue writing, the author said "Yeah fuck this" and just made it absolutely insane. The writing compared from the middle chapters to the last chapters are very clearly different and it's obvious the author was under insane amounts of stress at this time yet people kept begging and pushing them to do more. The last chapters feel more like a "fuck you." to the people who pressured her than actual entries to the series
Which one?
@@colour1253 Muffins
This literally makes me so happy!! Ive silently loved muffins for years!! 1. Cus the creator sucked. 2. because there wasn’t anyone to really talk to about them 😭😭
i’m so happy you’ve given something better than the original and i cant wait to read the toy box ^^
REAL!! I’VE LOVED IT FOR FOREVER AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT!!!
There's a rewrite on A03.
@@Topdoggie7 rlly? Is there a link for it you could give or the title? It’s alright if you can’t! Just curious :3
@@buffydoesstuff5978 Look up the same titles as the chapters starting with The Imprisoned Pie onward or the cupcakes and muffins tag in MLP.
@@Topdoggie7 woah omg !! TY SMMM :>
my fave grimdark rarity fic was The Secret Life of Rarity, its about how she becomes a serial killer to protect herself and her friends. it follows canon very closely and it was overall really interesting story and lore wise and had nothing mature (aside from, yknow killing) i was OBSESSED with it as a kid wish more ppl knew about it lmaoo
Wow. I honestly had no idea Little Miss Rarity was so... porn based. As a kid, I just watched the TH-cam speed paints like they were the most interesting thing in the world. I'm very glad I never found that side as a kid
I saw the comic dub and was just really confused
Same for only seeing the speed paints! All we knew/figured about Little Miss Rarity was that 'her cat scratched her and she went crazy.' Kinda like cat scratch fever caused her sanity to go 😅 Never thought it was p*rn story
So I want to leave my thoughts now that I’ve finished the video:
1) I am pretty sure the alicorn ending thing (which was on her Wordpress) was intended to be a “oh, you think I’m a shitty writer? yeahhh, sureee. by the way, spoilers: [something over the top].” She has expressed that she hates spoilers, and responded to a Quotev comment heavily implying the bakers will fall. As well as the fact another chapter is called ‘Kamikaze’ (I wish I was joking about that)
2) I would say that Peppo did have an affect on Blinkie, as Inkie uses it to manipulate her in Inkie’s Stellar Obsession. Otherwise, Blinkie is a pretty undeveloped character with her only traits being angry, love animal, jealous. (And my favourite cuz she wasn’t ruined lol)
3) You skipped over Silence Is Silver, and I can imagine why. It is far worse than Broken Tiara on the manipulation front, and considering the authors actions in the past… it really isn’t treated like manipulation. (note: you did, nvm, but I still stand by my opinions.)
3) The Fun Never Ends is a kinda annoying chapter. Not only does it go against Pinkie’s characterisation but it focuses on Twilight being tormented for things the author doesn’t like about her.
4) I’d argue Grudge Of A Bad Seed is a bad chapter that had potential to be amazing. The bullies characterisation is just… yeah… it’s obviously projecting things the author hates and demonising it.
4) Personally, I don’t find Sting that gross, but it does seem to lack self-awareness, push hate onto mentally ill people who’s mental illness doesn’t manifest in a specific way, and is solely there to shit on fan OC’s.
5) I’m glad you brought up that thumbnail about derpy. it always rubbed me the wrong way.
5) your rewrite is pretty interesting. I’m curious to learn more.
Misc ~fun~ trivia:
• Apparently Derpy is asexual because well- she doesn’t understand it. Why? Oh. Anyone can take a guess. The other characters also have weird reasoning. For example, Inkie is bi because “she isn’t very open minded so she wouldn’t be willing to date someone who isn’t female or male”. Because as we all know… that is EXACTLY how sexuality works. /s
• Inkie was originally going to be schizophrenic and Blinkie is supposed to have BPD (even though she shows zero symptoms).
• It’s implied that unlike in the show where Pinkie’s family are based off the Amish, they literally are Amish. Cloudy quotes the Bible in All That Glitters for example.
• I could go on. But I’m already frying my brain.
The response to criticism I can easily debunk. “I have autistic friends and they’re super intelligent, blah blah blah, Derpy isn’t autistic” okay right but her writing is still a bit off?
“Suspension of disbelief” does not work for LWC. It’s supposed to come naturally not be forced by the reader. And the “real life serial killers” she uses to prove “real mary sues exist” she greatly exaggerated the reality of. For example, the story of H.H Holmes has always been sensationalised and exaggerated. I’m not even mad about the bakers taking over Equestria I’m mad no one to oppose them is left alive to care about. Like the mane 6 are gone. All that’s left is the princesses but they have the intellect of a rock apparently. To make the bakers smarter, everyone else is reduced to a pebble:”.
Also, the Royal guards not recognising Walkie Talkie speak (which is CB channel codes iirc from my research) is funny. And the fact Cascade/Sharpshooter had zero preparation for her arrival.
I don’t want this comment to become 10,000 words but one last thing. I think a more interesting thing for Inkie’s Stellar Obsession could be been if Inkie took Stella up on her offer to keep her prisoner. Would’ve been interesting idk. But nope. Every story ends the same way. *sighhh*
• Minkie existing makes zero sense. The story that revealed a third sister existed explicitly said something along the line of “your older sister is doing work on the rock farm” or something. So why didn’t the author go off that? I guess it’s not that big of a deal… but still.
Oh, and the way cutie marks work in this world is… interesting…
Yeah I’m done. The more I try to get my thoughts out the more my head hurts. I will say this though. When I was younger, 2015, I stumbled across The Revenge Of Obsidian Pie and Broken Tiara. I was too scared to listen to anything else, being young, but those inspired me in good ways and bad ways. If it wasn’t for that, I might have not developed my interest in writing. So finding out years later, I believe 2019-2020 when I found Muffins again, that the author wasn’t a good person, and the writing wasn’t the best… was interesting.
Muffins was certainly a product of its time. That’s all I can really say.
I honestly don't like the fact that one of the designs for Bab's bullies was made to look like and In the author's own words "a skank", that character being 'Rouge', and I also don't like how Rouge earned her cutiemark which is by kissing all the colts in her class so they could vote for her as class president.
This is some of the desc from the Author's deviantart page for Rouge
"looks like a skank, acts like a skank, smells like cheap perfume bought in a drug store... must be a skank." and reminder, ROUGE is a child
@@DuncanDonutzRAWRXD yeah I don't know the author personally or anything but it seems like they're emotionally arrested in development (happens with trauma sometimes) given the highschool gripes jammed into their work like that. They argue with teenagers too much.
It doesn't work, the CMC aren't highschoolers, even if Rouge is a teenager a grown ass adult (I'm assuming she was at the time of writing it) should have the hindsight to clock "okay but they're kids, her being 'a skank' is not inherently tied into her being a bully, its also indicative that kiddo has problems". I did the whole 'grr OtherGirls bad' as a teenager and there's something to be said for "the notlikeothergirls were bullied by Other Girls creating an ugly cycle" but also I was a teenager.
The author really sexualized minors and Stellar is someone else's character they stole and murdered because of a fight.
The alicorn ending is stolen from a fanfiction called Return of the Bakers and it's scene for scene going to be recreated as Derpy tricks them into thinking she's disabled enough and then the bakers dissolving the alicorns insides while they're alive.
@@Topdoggie7 Hiiii as someone who hyperfixed on this person I want to point out that Stellar was made for someone then the author took them back if your talking about the person on Twitter im pretty sure the Stellar out dates that
@@AlanL0velies.exe. Nope talking about the owner of Stellar on DA. I knew them at the time.
I swear to god I remember that there once was a fanfic about Rainbow Dash and how she got rejected from the wonderbolts. Later, Scootaloo starts bothering her, so Rainbow Dash straigh-up beats her to death using her own scooter. At the end, Applejack noticed it and stopped Rainbow, even though scootaloo died either way.
OH OH I KNOW THAT ONE I'm pretty sure Scribbler Productions has a reading of that
@@seekerstheshy3842 yeah, I remember watching it too. It was sadly deleted tho.
@@seekerstheshy3842 do you remember what it's called?
@@rev4fun1It's called "If I Can't Have My Dream, You Can't Either". Ah, memories...
@@ninaalonso6331 Thank you!
as someone who grew up listening to/reading muffins and lost all my respect for the author as years have gone on thank you for talking about this and making a new reclaimed version, i feel seen. as a little weirdo kid i felt like i could never talk about muffins with anyone despite it being a special interest of mine as a kid and eventually young teen. it makes me happy that people out there know what the author has done and aren't okay with it, and for a long time i felt like i couldn't talk about it to anyone in regards to feeling really hurt by the actions of someone you looked up to. even if it was just a gore and torture heavy fic with colorful cute ponies it meant something to me and it still kinda does. again just thank you for making this video and even rewriting the story. it really means a lot as an autistic/adhd person too that we can be critical of how derpy is portrayed, and its nice knowing that people out there share my thoughts and feelings.
Yes!!! Especially the “Muffins being a special interest” is right in the dot. I’m glad more people are being redirected to new & better creators who are trying to save this series instead of discovering the OG creator
what i think is a major issue writing wise for minkie, is how in stories like the mad musings of obsidian pie and other stories featuring minkie, she'll use a lot of very intelligent language to describe her thoughts, feelings, and views on the world. the problem is that she canonically never went to school and hasn't even had an education for 20 fucking years, so there's absolutely no way her vocabulary should be that advanced. you could say it's because she's talking to people again that it has improved but i don't really think that's enough, especially since she can barely spell and still has trouble pronouncing extremely simple words like caterpillar. i don't know how the author goofed minkie up this bad, i feel like there was a lot of wasted potential for her.
Im a sucker for Grotesque horror. Kind of a shame so many minors were exposed to it, but I have a soft spot for these old pastas (Even if some of the creators are sketchy, the more i learn about the creator of muffins the more red flags there are)
You wouldn't believe the attachment by traumatized child-brain had to the story of Muffins. I've re-written and given alternate ends to it a million times, but nothing compares to what you ended up giving it. I fucking adore the ending beyond belief, and I am so thankful to you because you've given one of the most depressing open-ended parts of my childhood some sort of closure. And good closure, not bad closure where all the bakers end up killing the princesses and become alicorns, you gave it a happy ending, with a new element of laughter, interesting elements, and all of the mane six get to live, and Pinkie Pie is outed for the cold-hard manipulator she is in the story. Thank you.
Happy endings are shit and this "story" is no different lmfao
@@fandomfan2800 we don’t care what you think, janet, we like it.
Holy mother of god.....
I researched the author after watching this and being morbidly curious.
She's so unhinged...... She needs help and honestly, I feel for her husband.
It's so bad, she's so mean. The internet is clearly AWFUL for her fragile mental health, and she definitely shouldn't be posting on it anymore. She seems addicted though and I wonder if at some point she started to enjoy the attention but idk. It's very concerning.
I've just now found out your channel and hearing your rewrite on a series i intensely listened to as a kid growing up just made me so happy- I was almost inspired by the og story but have changed at lot due to the...creator's not so good deeds and the writing in general.
I'm so happy that there's a whole rewrite project for muffins as i truly do love the concept of it all just from the fact it spawned from literally Cupcakes. I cannot wait to read the rewrites one day!!
There's also a rewrite on A03 that is easy to find and ongoing rapidly right now.
As someone who’s witnessed the rise and fall of the Muffins saga, it’s awesome to finally see a deep dive video on this series. Muffins will always hold a special place in my heart, but I don’t condone or support the actions of the creator.
Awesome video, can’t wait to see more of your content in the future :D
The actions of the creator? What happened? What did she do?
Please read the rewrite on A03.
@@wingadept8793Draws and writes incest, CP, and also doxxes people. Basically her creepy sexualization of minors is the main issue.
@@wingadept8793 lots of stuff, other people in the comments have recommended videos to watch, and provided summaries! Something I haven't seen anyone mention, though, were the incest ocs. Haven't heard about them in a while, so maybe they were supposed to be an unreliable narrator kind of thing, but it didn't seem that way to me as a kid lol
How the hell can a pony torture porn fanfic have a "special place in someone's heart"? What is wrong with yall people?
Hi!! Writer and artist of Rotten Harmony here! Thank you so much for mentioning my work! The comic started on impulse so I couldn’t have dreamed it got the attention it did! Thanks again!!❤
I know this is very late, but one thing I don't see people talk about is how mental illnesses are portrayed in the muffins saga. Like in Twilight's Fall, the psych ward is seen as a place where stereotypical "insane" ponies are and they're mentioned playing with toys meant for foals, which isn't what mental wards are even like for adults. Babs is somehow a forming psychopath despite not showing any signs of being one beforehand, it reads like Jeff The Killer in a way. I don't know, even though I love the saga, its portrayal of mental health is offensive in some cases.
In that author's original fiction, it’s far far worse and she even glorifies incest
I would love if you made a video where you read your muffins rewrite! I love listening to mlp creepypastas while drawing and hearing a improved version of muffins would be really cool
I found the Muffin's series when I was really young so a lot of the problems in the story that were there I didn't register as bad. It took up until I found the series again, say.. about a few years ago and slowly I started to see just how.. iffy and.. *Oh gods* it was.
Derpy's portrayal in the original story puts a bad taste in my mouth now. I never realized just how infantilized she had been over the course of the story, though that might have been because I was a child when I first stumbled across it. (also the use of the r-slur makes me physically want to hurl)
anyway, I can't wait to read your re-write. I gotta catch up on all your stuff. It's a thing that happens with me, I focus on a creator for about.. a few weeks and then suddenly I lose all interest in em before seeing them pop back up in my recommended. :P
Derpy was manipulated in that story, I tell you. And yet, we couldn't hc her as autistic. It's the portrayal of her that I notice sm.
Found these stories when I was 11. Yikes.
I just realized something that makes the bakers imprisoning the entire town of ponyville make even less sense. In one of the Mad Musings of Obsidian entries Minkie mentions how she met a unicorn who attempted to kidnap her and imprison her and she couldn't fight back against his magic because she still felt weak from being imprisoned the first time. So how the hell does she go from not being able to fight back against one magic user to assisting in taking out a bunch of them?
The author has a really big habit of just never explaining why the characters she writes do anything
I think it was implied that babs seed taught them all how to fight
@@brihaha9940 If that's the case, then that's even dumber since she's a 10 year old in this universe!
Puppet to her Fame is one of the best fanfics I’ve ever read in my entire life. Genuinely such a powerful story of a characters struggle of freedom and family ties
rainbott you are a legend,, u have audience from the mlp fandom, the fnaf fandom, the analogue horror fandom, the minecraft community, the general weird stuff community (your video essays fill the silly shaped hole in my heart), the art community and more!! your content is literally an amalgamation of the things i like, im so glad i found you through that first welcome to dreamworld video. i will def be reading icing on the cake :3
THANK YOU SM!! ;0; 💕 I feel like every other content creator always picks one lane and stays in it, but I’ve decided to drive my car off-road completely. It’s my dream to have an audience that I can share a huge variety of crazy content with! 💚💜
0/10 Didnt start with "hello everypony"
one thing not mentioned that bothers me abt muffins is the defense as to why minkie x derpy doesn't work as a ship
if my memory serves right, the author essentially said "derpy's condition makes her feel childlike, it would feel weird if the childlike brain was dating someone"
which has... *horrific* implications that make me wonder if the author even sees autistic people as human beings w autonomy- bc that same logic,,, doesn't follow the whole stabby stabby murder thing?
regardless, its nice to see you also fall down the pit as a semi-frequent fan, as i'm writing my own rewrite myself and looking into building a community hub for muffins fans :]
welcome to the muffins hole!
I feel like the defense about why the ship doesn’t work should be the fact it’s quite literally mentioned that derpy sees the pies as her sisters. (I believe in jailbreak) but Naah lets infantilize disabled folks instead!! Thats a WAY Better argument
The author thinks it's fine that Derpy MURDERS other ponies but dating?... no no no...way too complex for her silly little uwu head. Bruh.
I FORGOT ABOUT MUFFINS- at least, I forgot what it was called.
I’m not kidding when I say that my younger self one time literally drew a picture of one of the victimized pony OC’s because I thought her description was pretty. As I listened to the description of how things went brutally wrong for her. I was one messed up kid and I blame this series for fueling it. Nowadays I can’t stand basic angst but I was dealing with this when I was like 7 wtf-
There's a discontinued sort of horror fic about Pinkie called 3.14 - it describes a Pinkie who is stuck in a time loop, and the time loops drive her to insanity.
The best thing to come out of Rainbow Factory is Rainbow Dash Presents: Captain Hook and the Biker Gorilla, which surprisingly still holds up today
Something sweet to bite is what i think the scariest mlp creepypasta, what happens after ponyville defeats candy mare is horrifying
Its horrifying honestly I love it but the Candy Mare’s backstory gave me a panic attack…which is saying a lot considering I’ve sat thru all of Lil Miss Rarity (which is uh, probs says a lot abt my mental state lmao) 😢
OMG the ending of the second fic had me shocked!!!
After that it was hard to read the series because it ended badly every single time. I knew the candy made was always going to defeat whoever the protagonist was, or would somehow be resurrected in a different universe. Honestly, i didn’t see the point in getting invested only to (unsurprisingly) see it all end in blood, gore, fire, etc etc.
😭😭😭 why the author gotta do us dirty by giving us hope only to crush it every time lol.
@@littlepip4014 The Candy Mare also ended up Hell and still beat everyone and then ended with her ending up in Heaven with plans to conquer it. She's become too overpowered. Even though that was the last chronologically, another story was released that took place before it that's a sequel to an earlier story and now there's one that takes place in G5 (it might be a soft reboot since it claims that it's a sequel to the first one without elaborating further. I haven't read these stories so I don't know).
Update: Though, it was probably done on purpose to replicate slasher films that it homages.
as an autistic guy who loved Muffins growing up and is only now starting to realise everything that's fucked up about this fanfic, yeah Derpy's character is a big yikesfest. i really hate how the mane 6 talk down to her, like all of them are so autistic coded they would _never_ speak down to her like that in canon, the author did all of them dirty in that scene. and i feel like Derpy's "am i stupid?" line could have been some great actual character development in her arc rather than something that's kinda brushed off by Pinkie. so many of us autistic people are made to feel stupid by the world and i feel like that would have been a great thing to explore with her character, but nah, the author just gave her a Wheatley moment (which i'll get back to) in a later canonical story and that was it.
i hate how Derpy's always being described as "child-like" and whatnot despite being a _grown ass mare._ i love a fun and goofy Derpy but this is just not it.... she's always so infantilised yet not at the same time and its so inconsistent. the worst example of this is when the author said in their video about the bakers' sexual orientations that Derpy, despite being a _grown ass mare,_ wouldn't be able to grasp the concept of sexuality because her mind is like a child's. nevermind that children as young as 5 are able to grasp their own gender identity and who they love in real life, nahhh, Derpy can't do that because she's child-like. what the fuck man,, (also they said that if Derpy could percieve her own sexuality she'd be straight 💀 she would NEVER). and also nevermind that Derpy, who is apparently so child-like that she can't grasp her own sexuality, can somehow understand the complexities and nuances of death and torture to the point where she deliberately abandons her morals and breaks ponies down psychologically just to make muffins with her found family. this is so... i don't even know what to say it's so wack and poorly written i'm still reeling from it all
but i think one of the worst things about Derpy's character as a whole is her arc in 'Derpy's First Project'. the author writes Roseluck (Derpy's victim) as such a blatantly ableist cow and is not-so-subtly used as a chess pawn just to funnel Derpy's anger that she uses the R slur _several_ times throughout the whole thing. not mentioning how the R slur wouldn't make sense in the canon of MLP, it's just... so tasteless in the way that it's used, and it's used for the sole purpose of giving Derpy her big character moment that's the equine equivalent to Wheatley's "I AM NOT A MORON!" line (minus the way better build-up and actual 3 dimensional characterisation of Wheatley) and it's so... shallow. it's meant to clearly be a powerful moment for Derpy, but there is literally no buildup apart from that pissy apple vendor and her backstory (which doesn't really delve deep into discrimination).
had her character have actually been written in a clever way, it'd be a great moment for some cognitive dissonance where Derpy _feels_ powerful in this moment, but it's all built on lies and manipulation from somepony she thought she could trust, or something like that. but we're positioned to actually root for Derpy here, which makes it even worse because it's built up on nothing but what can be inferred in her backstory alone. i hate that it's so blatantly written as an "autism win" that's just artificially manufactured by the author just so "the handicapped one" can have a power trip. there's so many better ways to characterise an autistic character other than tired tropes and ableism. heck, MLP characterises Derpy in a much better and more nuanced way than Muffins even did. we autistic people are more than our ableism and it sucks that Derpy's big moment is just disabled pony inspiration porn. it's clear the author doesn't actually understand how autistic people work.
anyway sorry for infodumping and ranting... info-ranting..... but Derpy's an important character to me because she's my favourite background horse in MLP and i love that she's become an icon for autism in the MLP fandom. i am just,, _so_ disappointed with how she was written in this story and i am mentally kicking myself for not noticing it sooner (although i was like, 9 when i first found this fanfic and only realised it was sucky like now). also Celestia knows that if i chose to talk about Minkie this comment would be WAY longer lmao. i really enjoyed this video and i'm glad there's finally a deep-dive so something i loved so much as a horror-loving kid, this video's super cool i really like it :D
also i remember commenting on one of the Derpy centric stories years ago, and i said something like "i know Derpy isn't canonically autistic but as someone on the spectrum i relate to her character" and the author just replied with this snappy "TL;DR, she isn't autistic" as if i _didn't mention that in my comment?????_ sorry for being able to find a little relatability in your shitty travesty of an autistic coded character i loved as a kid i guess 💀
40:22 In this piece of fanart, Minkie Pie kind of looks like Samarra from The Ring remake. You know, that would be an interesting idea for Minkie to be a ghost who's been buried underneath Pinkie's home.
I liked the Muffin Saga, I thought it was a cool fanfiction, but after Babs joined The Bakers, I started hating this series. The Bakers were these 6 cabalistic ponies that enjoyed torturing people, but after The Fun Never Ends, they turned into these over powered creatures that took on armies of guards that were trained by Celestia like it was nothing, and captured over 300 ponies to torture. Not to mention, THEY DID THIS WITH JUST WEAPONS AND NO MAGIC, they were earth ponies against pegasi and unicorns. They also just made Pinkie Pie a groomer, which I wasn't a fan of, and I felt like several parts of the story was just missing. I really hate the idea of them killing Celestia, and becoming alicorns and ruling the world. They also made Babs, a 10 year old earth pony, an overpowered filly. She literally took down Big Macintosh all on her own, and apparently had a huge IQ on the pony body and was able to remove Fluttershy's body but kept her alive, SOMEHOW, even though she had never seen any kind of organ before that and was 10 years old. I feel like the author really turned The Bakers into these really unlikable, flawed villains' that didn't even seem to feel any other emotion besides anger, and malice. Overall, I enjoyed the series, but only from Cupcakes, to The Fun Never Ends.
Honestly, meanwhile a lot of people disliked the "unrealistic religious trauma" my favourite part of the series was the way it reflected religion the exact way that I always saw it growing up within my 11 year old eyes. As weird as some aspects of it were, I can fully see it happening irl and although now as an 18 year old I can acknowledge that that's not what religion is meant to be, unfortunately it highlights the way it is in certain countries perfectly.
I have autism (high level) I hate when people say we're all the same, especially from my own situations I've been through
I've always wanted to know more about Muffins ever since I saw a video of it, but I never really got around to it because of the amount of content it has. So it's nice to hear you give a deep dive of the series.
On GOD i am so happy someone is FINALLY talking about muffins.
Ive been a fan (of the story) for YEARS and it always felt so.. unrecognized? By the fandom despite the interaction the narrations received. This obscure little creepypasta was one of the main reasons I stayed in the fandom so long.
Seeing how it plummeted in the later writings is a shame, but it is a joy to finally see someone talking about it. Thanks for going over this topic!
According to isaacblooms ( The TH-camr who said she's going to remake the entire Muffins fanfic) she found the ending to Muffins apparently the author was going to have each of the Bakers become Alicorns after killing the Princess Luna and Celestia. Giving the fanfics a very unsatisfying ending.
It was already mentioned in the video but yeah, that ending's absolutely bullshit if you ask me
just a heads up, IsaacBlooms uses he/him, not she/her :)
Can we just talk about the ableism of their first victim? Killing a depressed character to make them happy? Oh yeah, like real depressed people (such as myself) don't struggle with that. (Don't worry person reading this comment, I'm okay)
Back before I understood how back Muffins was, and I was an edgelord full time, I liked it well enough, but looking back is more than just cringe.
Also, poor Derpy. Why did the characters talk down to her so much? As someone also with autism, I had to pause the video and scream.
Oh my god, Rainbott! This is so good! I love your narration and explanations for everything in this video, especially Muffins! I'll be checking your rewrite as soon as possible! Also, you're really funny too! I was shocked when you brought up the issues with Derpy, which I'm so happy you did because they are really bad. I'm also glad you got some of your friends on the spectrum to look at this horrible portrayal! I feel so bad for Derpy, Applebloom, the Mane 5, and the innocent victims in this story, especially Twilight and Sharpshooter.
Sting is literally the worst chapter in Muffins and Let's Welcome Chaos is unreadable to me. I love my girl, Inkie Pie, but fuck. I just can't with those chapters.
I was never really into the Creepypasta section of the MLP fandom but I was exposed to a lot of gore and… *corn* (censored for obvious reasons) at a young age. I only recently got into Grimdarks and this video has given me inspiration to read/listen to even more. Story of the Blanks is definitely one of my all time favorites!
Story of the blanks got me back into mlp( I used to watch the old cartoons lol)
Sorry of the Blanks is the best. Ruby is best pony.
The mlp stuff max g did was more of dark comedy parody than creepypasta
Yep, true! I wanted to use a version of his Fluttershy in the thumbnail tho :>
I love An Apple Sleep Experiment. Not sure why, but it’s just a great story.
In my opinion, muffins is the worst my little pony fanfiction of all time, at least sweet apple massacure was one story. Muffins has 37 stories. It’s also really ableists towards autistic people which is disgusting. Also, it’s 90% gore and rarely are their non gorey stories. It’s like listening to a cannibal/serial killer documenting their murders.
also in 'the sexualities of the bakers' the author mentions that derpy would not understand arousal and, if she got aroused, would mistake it for regular excitement.
STOP INFANTILIZING AUTISTIC PEOPLE PART ???
Let’s not talk about how the author discovered the word “agape” and used it in every other sentence in the last few chapters
Hitting the thumbs up just for you rewriting the entire story. Girl. I am impressed.
Tbh muffins kinda sucks imo, once you’ve read one story, you’ve kinda read them all. I think a spin-off of cupcakes that would’ve worked is if it was like a backstory, like why pinkie starts baking. Maybe like a Sweeney Todd thing, like how Sweeney kills his customer for Mrs lovetts meat pies and for his personal revenge, pinkie pie could do the same for the Cake Family and her own revenge. Other than that, muffins seems like the same formula almost all the time
Also, the author isn’t a good person and she incorporates her opinions into the shows characters
your rewrite is so cool! i would be very excited to see you make more cause i love your story writing
There's one going on on A03.
I don't know why
but
I need that doc you guys made 🥲
i could listen to Rainbott talk for hours and hours i LOVE this...
Muffins over time has aged badly. On a recent re-watch, I've realized how badly written this fic truly is. Babs ruined the story altogether because the author thinks a kid is capable of taking down adult ponies and suddenly has no empathy! Not to mention the whole "earth ponies overthrowing Gods" was so dumb
the one thing I wish i never stumbled upon as a child would be happy tree friends; which probably makes sense why I was never personally traumatized by MLP/Creepypasta stories in general, lol
when the one show on cartoon network aired that looked vaguely similar to HTF, I avoided it and had nightmares of the main character for months-
THIS. Thumbnails and I became mortal enemies after watching a Flippy-centric video to the music of Smile. I still get uncomfortable remembering certain scenes and I'm eight years older than when I first watched it.
Do you still hate htf?
THE CUPCAKES MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND OF THE BEGINNING I CAN'T
I really wanna see the whole word doc with your friends thoughts on Derpy in Muffins bc it sounds like a hoot
I love the Muffins Saga but it kinda ends with a cliffhanger because in the chapter "Sting" it is said that Luna is the only pony who has a chance at stopping the bakers because she can do something that Celestia can't. I assume that its going inside dreams but we never get anything after that. And according to the Wiki, The Muffins Saga was supposed to have 3 more side stories, 3 main stories, and another Mad Musings chapter. Unfortunately we didn't get that so now we're left on a cliffhanger for all eternity. It's like the original Teen Titans all over again.
Omg this is amazing, I’m so happy someone finally talked about this. So amazing, I love you much, you are my inspiration. This video was fantastic!
Jordan I am sitting next to you right now- Your ass did NOT watch this video lmaooooo XD
@@Rainbott no I did you angsty tween
i remember randomly being blocked by Minkies creator
I don't even know why, I never interacted with them, I just was a watcher who produced my own content unrelated mlp content and would occasionally fav their art
Then one day I logged in and noticed i was blocked by them and I still don't know why to this day
Ngl I'm lowkey glad the cupcakes animation exists, just because it introduced me to one of my favourite music artists of all times (Andrew W.K)
Weird compliment, but the editing and quality of this vid is so nostalgic given the topic at hand !!
I was obsessed with muffins as a kid. I would literally listen to it to go to sleep because it calmed me down, I was in MIDDLE SCHOOL.
the creator is so... goddamn. I looked up to her for a long time before realizing everything
Are you mad?
Maybe don't look up to someone just because they created something you like
@@anonymouslucario285 buddy I was a dumb kid sucked into the whirlwind that is unrestricted internet access.
You'd know that with the goddamn eridan ampora icon. Hope you get enough therapy to deal with all your millions of issues soon.
@@anonymouslucario285That's how kids work tho dude, they look up to creators because they want to create.
I honestly loved the muffin series and still do because of how much I loved it in the past. I haven’t been able to watch it since the creator made it so you have to become a channel member to watch. So far I haven’t found/seen any re-uploads pop up.
There’s an Internet Archive available that has all of the videos re-uploaded there!
I really liked the part of this video where it lists the names and summaries of various popular MLP creepypastas; I only ever heard of those first two popular ones. It really shows the scope of this whole field, and in that way it kind of reminds me of the "iceberg: explained" genre. I really enjoy exploring a rabbit hole in that fashion, as it just shows you several paths to take and then just sets you free to explore them as you like. It's a nice way to preface the deep dive.
Rarity's new patterns was the reason i got into mlp fan work and the show.
not only was the author of muffins a bad person, i truly believe their whole writing and all of their works are pure garbage. yes it's just an opinion, but if you're going to write a story, make it work? and if you aren't going to make it work, don't be surprised when a fandom (mostly a fandom like this) gets upset with your work. some people do not have the correct mental state to be on the internet and they are a perfect example of that. i've watched their "apology" video but it's more of just a guilt tripping video and and another interdiction to their channel. i think they're pathetic personally
Also i adore the rewrite, I love how it plays into thr actual world.
Thats one thing that bugged me about a lot of mlp grindarks, they don't take ibto account for the actual world the characters are in, just our world but with magic when it's needed for the plot--
PLLLEEAASE MAKE A FULL VERSION TO POST I’D SO LOVE IT. I used to love Muffins as a kid and I’d love to reclaim it now as something better
I binged Muffins while playing minecraft for hours. Good times
I am currently in the process of rewriting MLP. I'll probably work on the princess's parents.
muffins is and will always be my favorite mlp fanfic ever. thank you so much for covering it.
I watched muffins as an edgy middle schooler and was obsessed with it, I still do kinda like some of the ideas from it, but there's also some stuff that I don't enjoy, so because of all that I'm working on a project that's basically "Muffins: but what I would've done"
IVE NEVER HEARD ANYONE ELSE TALK ABOUT MUFFINS. THIS WAS THE OG CHILDHOOD TRAUMA. I really like the story now but geez little me did not expect ANYTHING like that.
The MLP fandom made the rainbow factory 5 something years ago and everyone forgot about it and then the Welcome Home fandom just said *“I’ll take that”~*
I have several MLP ocs, and I have a batpony who lives in an abandoned shed and is treated like a cryptid because he never comes out during the day and always tries to hide from other ponies
dude when i was a kid i used to watch Muffins stuff all the time, all the way down to the QUOTEV writings of where she wrote the parts of them killing off the town. even as a kid i thought the story was AWFUL when they became invincible and killed everyone off basically lol.
i remember really liking Babs storyline and the way she took out her bullies with the appleseed toxins was really cool to me lol idk why
im an adult now and havent revisited the series since but still remember alot of it and havent seen many talk about the series since
thanks for making this video btw! very awesome and cool!
Icing on the Cake has got to one of the dopest re-writes I've ever read! It was genuinely good and the ending had be gasping and jumping in delight! Nice work!
I've always been a big fan of the Pie sisters and family in general and am writing some stories for them too! I can't believe Muffins is the story that included them, as I grow older the story didn't age well for me and I dropped it pretty early too (around Jail Break chapter). Your version of the story is definitely a step up from the original!
There's a rewrite on A03 that fixes the problems you have with it.
I remember knowing about the creepypastas but I’ve never read them though I think that was a good choice so I didn’t ruin mlp for myself when I was younger but they all look interesting and I think your rewrite is pretty interesting ❤
I love the fact that creepypasta/fanfic writers collectively decided that random serial killers can effortlessly defeat trained police/guards/military.
OMG AHHHHHHHHHH YOU HAVE NO CLUE HOW LONG IVE WAITED FOR A MUFFINS DEEP DIVE VIDEO
Bruh I remember getting curious and looking up the little Miss rarity comic oh my God never again
you brought me back holy crap, I remember some of these stories and they altered my brain chemistry in both the best and worst way. it was nice to see back into these stories.
this was my absolute favorite creepy pasta when i was younger because i related to derpy so heavily
GOD I LOVE YOUR MUFFINS REWRITE!!
I was kinda obessed with the artist’s stuff when I was younger including Muffins so this reclaiming project means so much to me.
Not to mention everytime I watch one of your videos I get tempted to make videos to infodump about my fanfics and the like lol.
i'm surprised that someone else remembers this!! as an autistic person i remember derpy's portrayal and just feeling disgusted, i also just earnestly hated how lazy the characterization became to a point.
I may read it some day! although i never read muffins, i listened to the audio version since i can't pay attention long enough to read without visuals lol
i am so glad youtube recommended me this out of nowhere when i haven't watched a muffins vid in ages. icing on the cake is a concept i adore :3
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO COVERED THIS THING. I always wondered about the Muffins rabbithole but was too lazy to get through it all so this is nice to have and look back on.
ROTTEN HARMONY YEESSSS IVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE COMIC SINSE THE BEGINNING
I looked at your page for the muffin series, and oh my gosh, it sounds so cool!! I love the direction you went for, especially with Pinkie Pie and minkie. I wish it was a full story snd i lovethe art!.
my opinions on Muffins nowadays is so. weird
I used to love the series when I was a kid, but now that I'm older I'm able to realize how.. bad a majority of the series is. Most of the plot points don't make sense, the Bakers are horrendously overpowered to the point where it's not even funny, and the pretentious writing style makes it difficult to even gain ironic enjoyment for me.
Nevertheless, it'll always have a place in my heart because of how obsessed I was as a kid, even if I really just spend most of the time currently making fun of it lmao
youre telling me, that one of my fav songs on spotify that randomly pops up is inspired by Grim Dark Pony stories?
...that Rainbow Factory Remix still a bop tho, had no clue it was pony inspiried
There's two other songs connected to Rainbow factory (Awoken and Pegasus Device) which are also pretty good songs
I just thought about this series the other day and tried to listen to it again on youtube, only to discover the creator made all the muffins og videos members only. I'm excited about your rewrite!