Top 100 Games of All Time - 20-11
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Tom Vasel Zee Garcia, and Mike DiLisio finish up looking at their top 90 games of all time that aren't their top 10 games of all time. Or in other words, here's another chunk of 10 of the greatest board games ever made by man, animal, or machine on this planet. Numbers 20-11 will shock you, confuse you, and perhaps even increase your general knowledge of the United States Tax Code. There is nothing to lose, so why not join in as these folks strap in, start their engines, and race to the end of the line, and end in position number 11. No Tom, I'm not doing anything weird, why do you ask?
The contest has ended.
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Intro - 00:00
Mike 20 - 5:11
Zee 20 - 8:36
Tom 20 - 11:16
People 20 - 12:25
Mike 19 - 14:35
Zee 19 - 17:24
Tom 19 - 20:14
People 19 - 22:07
Mike 18 - 24:00
Zee 18 - 27:31
Tom 18 - 30:26
People 18 - 32:16
Mike 17 - 33:53
Zee 17 - 37:25
Tom 17 - 40:02
People 17 - 41:39
Mike 16 - 43:56
Zee 16 - 46:26
Tom 16 - 47:49
People 16 - 49:47
Mike 15 - 52:03
Zee 15 - 54:57
Tom 15 - 58:22
People 15 -
Mike 14 - 1:02:54
Zee 14 - 1:06:20
Tom 14 - 1:08:43
People 14 - 1:11:03
Mike 13 - 1:12:46
Zee 13 - 1:15:04
Tom 13 - 1:19:04
People 13 - 1:20:53
Mike 12 - 1:22:43
Zee 12 - 1:25:35
Tom 12 - 1:29:11
People 12 - 1:31:01
Mike 11 - 1:31:52
Zee 11 - 1:35:10
Tom 11 - 1:37:43
People 11 - 1:39:40
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You should do a Top 10 disagreements video, where you talk about each other's favorites you dislike the most
There are videos for "Top 10 Games Tom is Wrong About" and for Zee.
There was an old one with sam that I think was at a convention, but Mike is wrong a lot so they may have a good time on a new one. Ok sorry Mike, I’m just joking
There were a live about this long time ago.
They did, and then they did response videos, and then response videos to that, and it was all hilarious. Go watch for sure 👍
foster the meeple has a biggest differences video and its hilarious and mildly uncomfortable in a familiar way
Res Arcana is my current favorite game. 100% agree with Zee. I think Mike has just not given it enough of a chance to see it's depth. There aren't broken combos. There are 2 strategies in the base and first expansion (Philosopher's Stone or an Infernal Engine combo)that could be seen as OP, but both of these strategies can be beaten if you know what you're doing. Like Race, it really is a game that rewards repeated plays. It's clear this game was thoroughly playtested.
Zee said, Wingspan is “sashaying it’s way up to Carcassone” 😂😂😂😂 oh man. Zee has some good little quips
I agree with Zee on Res Arcana. It's one of our favorite games.
How many of you are their?
my groups LOVES it too. the design is awesome. the box design is awesome. it MOVES. you dont have to constantly read new cards midgame so its complexity actually creeps down as you make decisions. we love it. atomic action selection combo lovers, take note! and highly thematic use of fantasy theme imho.
Found Zee’s burner acct
I simply love the Zee Garcia song😀
Me too!!!
I will absolutely just burst into singing it randomly as I'm walking around the house. "Zee...GARCIIIIA" 🎶🎵
Yeah but Mike got done dirty. His is terrible.
So happy to see Final Girl so high on Mike's list. I bought the game based on his recommendation and quickly bought up all the add-ons, played dozens of games since.
29:00 I liked how Tom was willing to give Zee a little room to talk on Res Arcana, up until the point where he likened it to Dune Imperium. You could literally see it on his face in that moment.
Zee's right tho
both have amazing combo potential, and a tense need to get stuff before others. I wouldnt have thought of comparison. and yet these are pretty much my groups favorite 2 games...huh. might be on to something!
Lol loved the ending with the camera on the floor
Finally, Concordia is getting some love from the Dice Tower gang
Thanks for the always entertaining top 100 list! Unmatched: Star Trek The Next Generation would be awesome, fingers crossed haha
I didn’t even think of it! Like TNG crew + TOS vs. Borg + Klingons????!!!???!??!?!?!??
Love evergreen! Played multiple games with my wife and my 11-year-old daughter and we all are huge fans of it.
Played Blue Moon City for the first time yesterday. LOVE IT!
Yesssss FINAL GIRL. IT IS A FANTASTIC GAME. Nice job, Mike.
Tom taught me RA on his last visit to Toronto. Really need to play this again.
A quote for the box on the next print run of Le Havre "Is that a dog or an erase mark?" -Zee Garcia
I will also gladly pay Zee for getting Targi. I LOVE that game and have you, Zee, to thank.
Watch the very end of the video for a hilarious extra!
I remember that crowdfunding episode!
Viticulture is very high on my list and I haven’t even played the Tuscany board. Two seasons is already fantastic! And yes I have Tuscany and ALL other expansions in the bast box. It’s tight but the folded space insert fits it all nicely.
Looking forward to tomorrow’s list. Top 10 games of all time! This year….😂
This felt more like a 10-1 for me. My absolute favorites getting mentioned here:
-Dune Imperium
-Unmatched
-Res Arcana
-Blue Moon
-Gloomhaven
-The Crew
-Viticulture
-Blood Rage
-7 Wonders Duel
Tom and Mike both had Dune Imperium in the same place last year too.
Smoke bombs …. and levitating pieces would be Bryan’s realm. Always hoped for magic in all of his reviews. I remember the time he snuck in the cards out of the mouth during one of the countdowns. 😮
Mike and Tom could not be more wrong about Res Arcana. Zee is right on the money.
RftG and Res Arcana are two of the most packed card games for the time invested and all time faves. all hail Tom Lehmann!
I like the new Kemet map, have never understood all the hate for it.
Just played LeHavre. It’s quite amazing really how good it still is.
Omg Zee actually threw that ball and hit the camera at the very end! We also got to hear how much Tom values Zee’s life. If you didn’t watch all the way to the end, it’s worth less than a camera.
Monumental! Play with the updated “continuous play” mode.
Zee right on the money. Deus is absolutely amazing.
Played Comic Hunters on DT Cruise and it was “ok” imo. Think it may have gotten too hyped up for me. If it comes to US, it would probably not look as good since they will likely not be able to use the actual Marvel comic book covers or it would have a different theme.
@zee what do you think of the Jamaica: Crew expansion? seems pretty cool, but Ive played base many times and only read the rules for crew. but seems it would add nice spice without overcomplicating, and i might never go back. thoughts? always/never/sometimes type of expansion to you?
I’ve never played Deus but from Zee’s description, it sounds like Wingspan. I really like Elysium though and it’s my top 100 and I’d wish they had an expansion.
I just realized that the negative space in the Blue Moon logo looks like a cute guy waving and now I cannot unsee it.
These videos are amazing! did I miss how to enter to win the box of games?
I'd really like to try Final Girl as somebody who enjoyed Hostage Negotiator but eventually moved on to the next shiny thing. I'm guessing this isn't gonna be in their convention library, huh?
Welcome To Blue Moon City. That would be the flip and write version
1:02:40 LOL "Cascados", at least in Spain, has several meaning, one of which is "smashed/broken", in plural
I remember when the KS for Marvel United first released. Me and my group were all making jokes about how ridiculous looking the chibis minis are and now it's one of our favorite.
me too. and i dont LOVE the style and glad i abstained. but im an xmen guy and went all in in wave 2 and its light and breezy yet not easy, and nostalgic for comics ive read...yeah, it works for me too
I did the same as Zee and tossed the three season board from Viticulture as it will never be used.
Tried Last Bastion after playing Ghost Stories, and it was so generic I just couldn't deal with it. I'd sooner work on some house ruling to blend its rule set with Ghost Stories artwork (yet to try in practice, but looking forward to revisiting).
"Christopher Nolan movie?" Zee is hilarious. 😂
Cosmic Encounter with the new expansion made it better than La Havre for Tom. We will see it tomorrow
Okay. I had been watching these on 2x speed to get through them. But i wanted to catch something they said about viticulture so swapped to 0.75x and them 0.5x. Hilarious! Drunk Dice Tower for the win!
Scripted or not, those last 10 seconds were hilarious 😂.
I’m totally with Zee on Res Arcana. It’s an absolute banger and easily my favorite Tom Lehmann design. Love ya Mike but you’re all wet on this one. “So mediocre.” Ha! Haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.
srsly. i sent him a tweet i was so disappinted in mike lol. I usually think he has great taste and my faith was shattered lol
Finally played RA, it's decent but I wasn't bowled over by it. Certainly I don't get the "best auction game ever" craze. Passing that bag around is so cumbersome.
😊 this is nice
Lol! The ending!
We are approaching the end of this wonderful top 100. I’m dishing out points for the hosts and people, picking out the one game per entry I like the most. My rules, deal with it.
Mike: 3 points (25 total), 20, 17, 15, Comic Hunters, Everdell, Monumental
Zee: 4 points (25 total), 19, 18, 16, 12, Unmatched, Res Arcana, Targi, Deus
Tom: 2 points (18 total), 14, 11, Marvel United, Le Havre
People: 1 point (24 total), 13, Dominion
13, the spot Dominion won preventing Dune Imperium from becoming a 3 time winner
3, games have won 3 times Wingspan, Near & Far, and now Marvel United; Sleeping Gods, the only game to win 4 times so far
Mike: 2 potential points pillaged (6 total), 19 Final Girl (Unmatched won), 13 Dune Imperium (Dominion won)
Zee: 0 potential points pillaged (4 total)
Tom: 2 potential points pillaged (8 total), 20 Beyond the Sun (Comic Hunters won), 13 Dune Imperium (Dominion won)
People: 0 potential points pillaged (4 total)
Mike 25, Zee 25, People 24, it’s anyone’s race except Tom; but some hidden info will be revealed in the final episode…
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Zee Garcia is ABSOLUTELY right on Res Arcana. Easily one of the best games lol. And better than Race for the galaxy too. Sorry Tom :)
A board game about collecting board games. That way you can get the Rare ones that Mike likes.
😂😂😂😂
I love my big o everdell box :)
Around the 19s, I thought Tom and Zee were going to have a crossover for croquette.
Res Arcana is a tightly focused game…. Zee is absolutely right
I think Viticulture is just ok. I need to try it with the expansion
Viticulture really isn't that good without the expansion. It's a pretty standard wp that borrows the wake up mechanism from fresco. Tuscany really does elevate the game.
@@grog3514 I sold my Tuscany as I think it is better without it. What makes it unique among wp games is how tight the game is due to being a race, so you have to be very precise in using the cards you get and the wake up track bonuses you choose (in this way, it elevates Fresco, not imitates it). I also greatly enjoy that it makes you go through many steps to score a point, rather than give you a point for everything.
How high are you Tom?
‘Higher than this table.’
PLAY CONCORDIA, MIKE. No excuses, no nonsense. 😁
Nice "Waterboy" reference., Zee. No, youre wrong, Colonel Sanders.....mama's right!
I purchased Rising 5 only to find the app is only available in Polish. I can still play the game, but the language barrier is an issue. I'm avoiding app supported games in the future to avoid this problem.
Next one of The Crew is going to be Mission Horder House
For me, Comic Hunters is the epitome of over-hyped. I doubt certain people would be raving so much about it if it was more really available.
Of course, I might be way off and this game really is that good, but somehow I doubt it.
Bang: The Dice Game is not a bad game. It's a fun party-style game if you're willing to get into the roles. It's definitely not a Top 50 type game though lol
Funny i love Blood Rage but hate it’s name - it puts off so many people who assume it’s an immature teenager’s game
Blue Moon Flippy! 🤣
Lots of love for Dune Imperium. However, something they mentioned on Smorgasbord this morning keeps me wanting to play it - IP's & books with movie tie-in covers. I hate that they decided to use the movie images for the characters. I hate it so much I can't bring myself to try the game! I know it's silly, but man it just really bothers me.
They aren’t movie stills though (which usually looks horrendous). They have just used the likeness of the movie characters for the basis of the art and it looks really good.
Yeah it's all original art. I think it's quite good.
I've played 9 of the people's picks, and the only one I haven't played yet is Brass, but I've played the original just not Birmingham.
Mike is sooooooo wrong on Res Arcana.
I'm gonna be real - I have 3 boxes of Unmatched - I like Unmatched nice enough. But Exceed and BattleCON blow it out of the water. Exceed isn't even THAT much harder to learn than Unmatched - just got a few keywords to drill into the mind. But the extra depth is worth drilling through for a game that is super strong. I appreciate the characters and minis from Unmatched, and Unmatched is a really really nice product - great art - great value for money. But the actual GAMEPLAY? Nowhere near Level 99's dueling games. Please try them
I wish all the success in the world to Unmatched, but there's something broken in my brain that, after waiting forever for them to expand or update Epic Duels, and a few years ago teasing us that they would actually bring it back, my brain is kind of stuck on my existing copy of Epic Duels.
Unsettled is amazing best co-op game every
The first version of Ra was by alea/Rio Grande
Spirit island #1 :D
Tom obviously doesn’t want folks buying comic hunters instead of his upcoming DT stamped essential version.
res arcana has been my #1 for a couple of years now. most fun per complexity/time out there!
Anyone can explain what was that about Sweden and Slovakia? I didn't understand it.
When people are watching with the live chat and they donate, Tom calls out their country
@@annecooswiersema3511 Ah, forgot about the chat. Thanks.
It seems that I cant introduce most games over BGG weight of 2. The only exception is Marvel Legendary at 2.4 has someone been easy to introduce. Others above 2 that I usually get people tuning out of the rules before I finish: 7 Wonders, Clank, Pandemic, Horrified, Forbidden Desert. These are with people that almost always say "I dont want to think when I play a game". They also get mental fatigue 1hr in and that ruins the game, for me.
Having said that, I think breaking games into weight < 2, 2-3, and 3+ would be VERY useful.
14 yr old, who like a 1-3 hr game.
3+ are people who dont mind a 1-3 hr rule reading followed by a 2-12 hr game. Hard core gamers.
DEUS new printing has nicer board printing. Difference is that the old version has tight lines when the new printing has more “natural” lines
It's a real shame you cant get your hands on the expansions for Rising 5. As far as I know you have to have the super rare collectors edition which is dumb
3/40: Jamaica, Marvel United, Le Havre 🦘
Res Arcana reminds me of MtG, and, in a way, blows it out of the water: it's just as rich, but is massively cheaper. The draft is a must have.
I was very interested in Res Arcana and hearing this is solidifying it’s way into my next purchase. Maybe the Easter bunny will bring it 🐣🐇
Kemet is BEST dudes on a map game...FIGHT ME!
Noooo Tom! I just gave you a high five at Pax Unplugged for Le Havre and you dropped it out of your top 10!
Res Arcana is fine, but I don't think it's very interesting to play. I agree with Mike, but then I feel the same about Everdell, which he gushed over a minute after the Res Arcana entry
Is that a gavel in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? 14:42
3 times Mike has had a direct crossover with the People 53, 32, 12 whut?!?
Will they be a printable list of all 4 of the countdowns. I lost track of the games I want to try.
Zee's #1 will be Caper Europe
Huh, 747 likes already. Bodes well for tomorrow ;)
I thought Le Havre was pretty good but it was so long… maybe it’s dumb I sold it but I just felt the game was too long for what it offers. I’m trying Hallertau now…
Annoyingly I can't get the Rising 5 App to work any more..
1:20:15 what is it compared to?!
Zee is no more voice of the people, Mike is new owner !!!
Should I play the app of Gloomhaven b4 I play the board game? Also, Everdell meeple stickers are essential.
I will gladly help Mike AND the Dice Tower with the stickering. I found that therapeutic.
Viticulture visitor cards are damn broken ...
Final Girl #1
But Tom said that his favorite Vikings game was whatever some lists ago! Isn't A Feast For Odin a Vikings game? Shame!!
Also great work, so enjoying to watch
Where's Agricola? =)
Laurentia: a Cascadia game. Dixon: a Cascadia game. Arctic, Boreal..... No reason they couldn't be combineable, ie, where bioregions abut. How about Yellowstone: a Cascadia Game!
I think you're onto something, Zee. Looking forward to Blue Moon Flippy. 😂
In the meantime, here are my ranks of these games:
- Evergreen (too recent to rank)
- Beyond the Sun (3)
- Pandemic (96)
- Concordia (40)
- Viticulture Essential Edition (87)
- Everdell (265)
- A Feast for Odin (121)
- 7 Wonders Duel (200)
- Paladins of the West Kingdom (23)
- Jamaica (too old to rank)
- Ticket to Ride (170)
- Dune Imperium (124)
- Dominion (7)
Thanks for the video!