Very nice strategy, indeed. I didn't mention in the video, but having the Outsider (JLTW031a) in a themed team also allows for a great Smoke Cloud - Stealth combo. Placing two friendly characters adjacent and then using Smoke Cloud can make things quite confusing for opposing characters. Worth a look... Thanks for watching and commenting!
Batman is my favorite so I'm very familiar with stealth ;) I saw the way you moved that character to use force blast, and it made me remember that my group always get into arguments about breaking away and what's considered adjacent and things like that. could you make a video going into more detail about movement and what you can and can't do regarding breaking away and other specific circumstances? thanks love your stuff!
Thanks! A video on breaking away is a must and it's on the list (a pretty long one). I have this video on movement that might answer a few questions in the meantime: Runners on the Map th-cam.com/video/pN5aNl0_TgI/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice! Sharon Carter is a great stealth piece, giving it to all adjacent Avengers (even Hulk ;')). I also really like veteran Psylocke from way back in Xplosion. 8 range means she can stay way back to snipe with her 10 attack and Enhancement means she can subtly help her friends, while Blades/Claws/Fangs deters people from getting too close. My absolute favourite would have to be Wolverine & X-23 but I'm not sure they count as while they do have Stealth what makes them great is their trait which is much more than Stealth, as they don't even need hindering terrain most of the time. It was nice to hear a positive look on Stealth; all I seem to hear nowadays is that with the introduction of Improved Targetting it's no use anymore. I still like it, and think the Midnight Sons ATA is one of the best.
Thank you for watching and commenting! That's quite the collection you seem to have... I looked up the "Wolverine & X-23" figure on HCRealms and it's amazing. Duo-attack with Flurry and Claws? Wouch!
The Tabletop Teacher It's mostly my dad's - We've been playing since the start and since we both play we get double the prizes if you think about it so we have quite a lot. Yeah the duo attack I don't use much because it doesn't combine with Charge and is subject to the Damage Depletion Modifier (unlike Flurry) but that's super awesome is the minimum of 3 for the blades and the Double Healing Factor damage power they get later on The only bad thing is X-Force is my favourite team but I rarely play it because I feel bad fielding them and Fantomex all the time ;')
Another good attack against stealthed characters is using telekinesis with objects. When you make a ranged attack against an opposing character with telekinesis and an object you only draw a line of fire to the square the character occupies. Not the actual character. Therefore Stealth will not apply. It's extra fun if the Stealthed character is "in stealth" by occupying a square with an object. Use TK to grab the object and smack the character with it! :)
I didn't know that about TK object attacks! I rarely use them I guess. Another thing that people always seem to use against me is shooting the object I'm standing on, destroying it. Now I only trust the good old printed green-bordered stuff.
2 years later , but maybe you can use this. I thought objects could only be destroyed when used in an attack, and that when they are just laying on the ground characters can't target them? Wait-- never mind, I looked it up, characters can't KO an object that's being held.@@matthewrandell5055
With the 2021 rules if I'm in hindering and draw line of fire into a hindering to target a guy in hindering. Does the defending still get the defense modifyer?
My favorite stealth figure atm is Rocket Raccoon from the Guardians of the Galaxy starter set. For 75 points he has five clicks, a range of 7 with two targets(EE on his second click), 10 atk, if you give him a power action he can make two range combat attacks at no cost. He also has Willpower 17 defense, 3 attack and outwit, ignores hindering terrain AND characters for line of fire purposes :)
I haven't covered Flurry yet, but yes, it can be any combination of attacks on adjacent characters (2 attacks on 1 or 1 attack on two distinct opposing characters).
Thanks for watching beyond that hindered line of viewing! Stealth is going to be especially interesting for that amazing pull you got in your quick unboxing video: th-cam.com/video/yofEP36Qh3k/w-d-xo.html
I have a question about stealth power. If i have a tiny character with stealth in hindering terrain and other character without stealth and an enemy character wants attack (with a range attack) to my character without stealth but the line of fire crosses through my tiny character with stealthin hindering terrain....(uffff, I hope you understand me) can he make the attack? Happens the same thing if the character that has stealth is not tiny? Thanks for your anwers ( Sorry for all, the English is not my native lenguage, I am from Spain)
I don’t have time to check the WizKids forum right now to make sure (that topic has likely been covered), but since you are not targeting the tiny character in hindering terrain, but another character behind it, your line of fire would not be blocked by the tiny stealthy character (granted your attacking character is taller than tiny size). The thing I have to check for with the new rules is whether or not the line of fire is blocked by a stealthy character you are not targeting... The way the power is written, I would gather it is not.
Stealth *only* affects hindered lines of fire drawn to the character using stealth. It has *no* other effect in any way, shape or form. So a character that blocks LoF when not in stealth will also do so when in stealth and vice versa.
As always the BEST Heroclix tutorials on the internet!
You are too kind! But thank you; it is greatly appreciated. You guys are the best.
another amazingly comprehensive and easy to follow video. wizkids needs to hire you, professor.
Thank you so much! Nice idea, there ;o).
Omg thanks for all of these videos now i actually know how to play the game!
Can you show us how to use Mind Control?? Awesome Video!
Thanks for your video request and positive comment! Mind Control is definitely on the to-do list!
No Problem :D
Batman family members are always nice to use..Also using the UXM Storm hiding my pals is a good way of keping safe.
I usually forgot to Use Stealth
Very nice strategy, indeed. I didn't mention in the video, but having the Outsider (JLTW031a) in a themed team also allows for a great Smoke Cloud - Stealth combo. Placing two friendly characters adjacent and then using Smoke Cloud can make things quite confusing for opposing characters. Worth a look... Thanks for watching and commenting!
The Tabletop Teacher Thank you for the tip..i dont remember all my "great" playes..last time i used a bit stealthy team the enemy could see me
One of my favorites with Stealth is Cable from the Deadpool and X Force set
Batman is my favorite so I'm very familiar with stealth ;) I saw the way you moved that character to use force blast, and it made me remember that my group always get into arguments about breaking away and what's considered adjacent and things like that. could you make a video going into more detail about movement and what you can and can't do regarding breaking away and other specific circumstances? thanks love your stuff!
Thanks! A video on breaking away is a must and it's on the list (a pretty long one). I have this video on movement that might answer a few questions in the meantime: Runners on the Map th-cam.com/video/pN5aNl0_TgI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice! Sharon Carter is a great stealth piece, giving it to all adjacent Avengers (even Hulk ;')). I also really like veteran Psylocke from way back in Xplosion. 8 range means she can stay way back to snipe with her 10 attack and Enhancement means she can subtly help her friends, while Blades/Claws/Fangs deters people from getting too close. My absolute favourite would have to be Wolverine & X-23 but I'm not sure they count as while they do have Stealth what makes them great is their trait which is much more than Stealth, as they don't even need hindering terrain most of the time.
It was nice to hear a positive look on Stealth; all I seem to hear nowadays is that with the introduction of Improved Targetting it's no use anymore. I still like it, and think the Midnight Sons ATA is one of the best.
Thank you for watching and commenting! That's quite the collection you seem to have... I looked up the "Wolverine & X-23" figure on HCRealms and it's amazing. Duo-attack with Flurry and Claws? Wouch!
The Tabletop Teacher It's mostly my dad's - We've been playing since the start and since we both play we get double the prizes if you think about it so we have quite a lot.
Yeah the duo attack I don't use much because it doesn't combine with Charge and is subject to the Damage Depletion Modifier (unlike Flurry) but that's super awesome is the minimum of 3 for the blades and the Double Healing Factor damage power they get later on
The only bad thing is X-Force is my favourite team but I rarely play it because I feel bad fielding them and Fantomex all the time ;')
Great video man!!!!
Thank you very much! More are coming.
Another good attack against stealthed characters is using telekinesis with objects.
When you make a ranged attack against an opposing character with telekinesis and an object you only draw a line of fire to the square the character occupies. Not the actual character. Therefore Stealth will not apply.
It's extra fun if the Stealthed character is "in stealth" by occupying a square with an object. Use TK to grab the object and smack the character with it! :)
I didn't know that about TK object attacks! I rarely use them I guess. Another thing that people always seem to use against me is shooting the object I'm standing on, destroying it. Now I only trust the good old printed green-bordered stuff.
2 years later , but maybe you can use this. I thought objects could only be destroyed when used in an attack, and that when they are just laying on the ground characters can't target them?
Wait-- never mind, I looked it up, characters can't KO an object that's being held.@@matthewrandell5055
With the 2021 rules if I'm in hindering and draw line of fire into a hindering to target a guy in hindering. Does the defending still get the defense modifyer?
My favorite stealth figure atm is Rocket Raccoon from the Guardians of the Galaxy starter set. For 75 points he has five clicks, a range of 7 with two targets(EE on his second click), 10 atk, if you give him a power action he can make two range combat attacks at no cost. He also has Willpower 17 defense, 3 attack and outwit, ignores hindering terrain AND characters for line of fire purposes :)
A very fine choice, indeed. I didn't get that starter set back then... Should have. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome job TT!
Thank you very much E14!
Any vids on flurry?? Two close attacks. Two on one adjacent characters? Or two separate adjacent characters are also possible?
I haven't covered Flurry yet, but yes, it can be any combination of attacks on adjacent characters (2 attacks on 1 or 1 attack on two distinct opposing characters).
is it necesary to be standing on the hindered square?, can you just hide behind it?
Behind it is fine... The idea is that the line of fire must be "hindered".
We couldn't see this video....but i bet it was good!
Thanks for watching beyond that hindered line of viewing! Stealth is going to be especially interesting for that amazing pull you got in your quick unboxing video: th-cam.com/video/yofEP36Qh3k/w-d-xo.html
I have a question about stealth power. If i have a tiny character with stealth in hindering terrain and other character without stealth and an enemy character wants attack (with a range attack) to my character without stealth but the line of fire crosses through my tiny character with stealthin hindering terrain....(uffff, I hope you understand me) can he make the attack?
Happens the same thing if the character that has stealth is not tiny? Thanks for your anwers ( Sorry for all, the English is not my native lenguage, I am from Spain)
I don’t have time to check the WizKids forum right now to make sure (that topic has likely been covered), but since you are not targeting the tiny character in hindering terrain, but another character behind it, your line of fire would not be blocked by the tiny stealthy character (granted your attacking character is taller than tiny size). The thing I have to check for with the new rules is whether or not the line of fire is blocked by a stealthy character you are not targeting... The way the power is written, I would gather it is not.
Stealth *only* affects hindered lines of fire drawn to the character using stealth. It has *no* other effect in any way, shape or form. So a character that blocks LoF when not in stealth will also do so when in stealth and vice versa.
My favourite stealther is Black Cat (13 points) XD
Interesting, sneaky choice... Those extra probs are always nice. Thanks for sharing.
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