The Behringer is amazing. Josh from JHS shot it out with an original Japanese Tube Screamer. And it sounded if not exactly the same, incredibly close. It sounded exactly the same to me. And I use the Behringer and it works so awesome.
I know, they almost feel naughty if music shops can’t make any money off them. But I built a very good board for very little money. And I guess then it kickstarts wanting better quality, or knowing you really like a certain effect and seeking out a better example.
You guys are working at the third decimal place level, which makes an entertaining video to watch but to the Captains point killer for marketing, I’ll take the 20 quid Berhringer all day long, I’m just happy to hit the right string regardless the precision of the tone duplication
it would be really cool if in the future you could also include modeler versions of these pedals as well. Such as from the Helix range (HX effects). Great video as always!
That’d be fun - an 808 vs a 9DX and compare them to something like a wampler/way huge/JHS special edition as well as the behringer one, and then compare them all to the helix model, and then just for fun compare that to the zoom G1 four model of it lol. Tube screamers are one of the most cloned pedals ever, gotta have some fun with it
Great shoot-out. I actually like the TS with humbuckers. I realise thanks to SRV and John Mayer a lot of strat players like the TS but please don’t forget us 335 and Les-Paul players.
I never think about TS with strats, but I also don't really listen to the type of music they're riffing on here. Would love to see one of these shootouts in a more rock n roll context.
Funny you say this because after playing tube screamers with a strat at church for a few months, I finally did it with my Gretsch and it sounds so much clearer and "bigger". I decided no more strat lol
I love this demo. What I do believe is that, in order to spot a really good TS, you shouldn't just play it alone. But stacked with other drives or pushing the front end of an amp.
The winner is Andertons for doing another shootout. We simply love your shootouts. The only irritating thing is I have i buy the winner even if I do not need the bloody pedal! Love you guys.
I still love the Tube Screamer Mini - Best. It sounds like it has sightly more note-definition. Great comparison. Pete is such a great player. oNe LovE from NYC
Agreed. If someone is looking for a tube screamer that is either cheaper, smaller...whatever, I don't see any reason to not go w/ that one. It's funny how we spend all this money to get pedals that look different from the original but at the same time want it to sound like the original. The Mini is obviously not the original but it checks most of the boxes for why you might not want to buy an 808.
My favourite thing about Andertons vids is they learnt early on that it doesn't matter if you show the cheap option to be as good as something 5x the price EVEN as a retailer. They know people buy with their eyes and the fancy brand will sell regardless.
I've brought berhenger as a starter, I plan to upgrade them one day if they brake or I have more cash but they do what i want them to do, if I don't like the sound i haven't wasted a huge amount
I bought the East River Drive before your last shootout video. I bought it just on the strength of the promo videos, and I wasn't disappointed. It's not for high gain and metal, it's more for crunch and breakup, and for that it's absolutely magic. Totally bostin!
Honestly. Guys. I had this video running in the background while doing something else. 20 minutes into the video I was like “Oh wow, Pete’s still playing the first pedal”. In conclusion: I’m selling all my TS pedals and buy the Behringer. At least that’s what I’m gonna tell my wife. hehehe.
The behringer was my first overdrive pedal. Bought it about a year ago thinking I'd get an actual TS if i like it but it's so damn good I just keep using it lmao.
I did both shootouts without looking, and it was a lot of fun. East river drive came out on top for me on both. There were other pedals sounding good as well though.
@@PedalPoopers I'm kind of new to all of this but am aware of the two pedals you speak of. How can 9 pedals not have more variation than one? I'm curious particularly with the price of the Bonsai why you'd buy anything else in the TS mid-$$$ space.
@@monochromedout iknow a lot of people who just dont like jhs.. then there are many that do. im in the first group and never felt the need to go there. just another middle of the road brand to me personally anyway. i get what you say about versatility completely though. for me at least, 9 tube screamers is too many. id rather have one good sounding one with a blend or mix nob for dry signal. thats why i would go elsewhere
@@monochromedout all tubes screamers are the same lol. It's barely any different in treble. I rather have one TS that is more customizable in tone. Bonsai modes also feel weak in overall tone when I abed it against a ts10 and ts9. It's a jack of trades master of none
I own a number of original tube screamers from decades ago and oddly enough, either the EHX east river drive or the dreaded Behringer pedals sound exceptionally close to my originals, which I purchased as a young man decades ago
Love my East River and use it specifically for tone and nothing else. Interesting Tubescreamer, if you have one, would be throwing in the Scranton Screamer by Emerson. Throw that in an mess with Pete.
It's a TS. Such a simple circuit. It's really just a matter of identifying whether you prefer the 808 vs ts9 vs ts10, but honestly, after owning roughly a dozen various ones from cheapest of the cheap to original to expensive af, I now just use a Mosky, cheap little mini chinese that makes great clones (basically what Mooer was before they started charging triple the price) and find it just as good as any other I've used. I do kind of want a Moxie though just for a nice ts10 clone and the voice switch, especially since I never really use the TS as a main overdrive, but it's in front of all my other overdrives and stacks beautifully with them (it sounds great w/ my klon(e), Hampstead Odyssey, and BB preamp. Have a Timmy on the way, too, so we'll see how it plays with that. Can never have too many overdrive/dirt pedals :)
The East River Drive actually sounded almost as good as the 808... again! Definitely most impressed by that one. The Halcyon sounded worst to me. Of course, that's just compared to other pedals trying to emulate the 808. Maybe, on its own, the Halcyon could sound okay. Pete was spot-on about the midrange sweetness from the 808.
the halcyon's sweet spot is when the dry knob is turned up, not at all emulating an 808 with no dry signal. also with the adaptive setting turned on, the halcyon really shines. i agree it doesn't sound great 100% wet and non-adaptive mode.
Great playing from Pete (I love the nod to Who Knows!) and, honestly, great tones out of all of the pedals! The Behringer sounds crazily good for £20, but I'd probably go for the Electro Harmonix for its metal case (I use the EH Glove and it's an excellent OD and built like a proverbial brick outhouse). That said, you could break 3 of the Behringers and still come away with a fiver compared with the cost of an East River! That's just bonkers!
@@spud4242 Or- just buy a Joyo, Mosky, or Caline, etc- all in metal cases, all sell for between 20-30 bucks, all sound just as good or better than any of the pedals in this video. There are high dollar pedals worth paying for but- tube screamers aren't one of them imo. There are too many clones on the market that sound just as good as the high dollar models.
Even the Behringer, will sound just like the expensive early ones. Having high and low cut ability, is what really makes a difference for me. I still use the VFE Pale Horse, after many years of trying different versions of Screamers.
@@CorbCorbin nice, I’m thinking about getting the cornerstone antique V2 to go with the gladio SC that they make. I already have an Ibanez 808 but I don’t really like the light indicator and I don’t always like how it sounds or blends with other pedals
It's almost like almost every guitar pedal and pickup sound the same and guitarists are just gullible and willing to waste money on tone quests that don't matter
I am not a Tube Screamer fan at all, but that Wampler Moxie and Halcyon sound the best to me. But every TS pedal seems to have this issue where the sweet spot is very small. If the gain is too high, it loses definition, and if it’s too low it loses the sparkle. It’s a very small window for me to get them sounding the way I want. Which is probably why I usually go with a Blues Breaker or Dumble ODS style pedal instead. Those tend to have a much wider window of useful tones to my ears usually.
Great vid as always and lovely playing from Pete! Shout out to the Sparkle Drive from Voodoo Labs as well - the clean blend is so handy when stacking gain 👍👍👍
@Andertons Music Co Don't forget guys, Behringer has addressed the Plastic case problem by making it an "Electronic Switching" pedal instead of the steel stomper switch. You just press it lightly and it switches like majic with a little rubber cushion thingy and it's silent too, more or less. I have several different ones on my board and have never damaged one and ya can't really tell the difference so why not?
I have a Berhinger. It sounds amazing with a Strat and cost me all of $30. If you put it on a pedalboard I recommend hooking it to a switcher like they have it here so you aren’t stomping on cheap plastic 😄
the only pedal that compared to the sunset for me was the revivaldrive hot rod. but then again, it's hard to compete with origin effects. pretty sure it's also not partly digital like the strymon.
Cool Comparison. Thankyou. I have a Joyo Vintage Overdrive (Green in Color so I presume TS Copy) and it works for me ........ But I have a Behringer Bargain Pedal Board as my Everyday use at home Board where I have found and purchased Behringer pedals Cheap Second hand( they are $42- Australian New I have found 8 Behringer pedals for no more than $10- to $20- each). All The Behringer Pedals I have tried have been great and very usable sounds. I will need to add a Behringer Vintage Over Drive pedal soon hopefully as I see Positive reviews always. Cheers
I consider my Durple to also be a TS type, because it sounds very much like a TS, even with the mid control turned down a bit. Your Landlord Amber Nectar is also a TS, which is just a rebranded Rowin LEF-302B, their original TS type pedal
yup, they're such simple circuits (all TS variations, 808, ts9 and ts10), that there's no reason to spend a bundle on any pedal though. Just identify which of the 3 circuits you prefer and get one. The Mosky Mini Screamer is an exact clone with the JRC4558 and is never more than $30 new
There is a tubescreamer pedal that has been mounted into a panel from an RAF Tornado, and it has a cool VU Meter too. It's called the SonicAIM Crash... because it uses the crash panel from the Tornado.
Great video. I think the mini tube screamer actually scratches the itch for most of the reasons folks wouldn't buy the flagship. I don't see a ton of reason to not get that if you want to emulate the original (of course some have extra features and that's a good reason). So I'd be a little more interested in seeing different flavors of tubescreamers out there. Example being the plumes...that was supposedly inspired by the tubescreamer. To me, it doesn't sound like a screamer but is almost a hat tip to the scramer and that's why I find it interesting. Would love to see shootouts w/ examples of that kind of thing. It's also a reason someone should buy new "screamers" because a lot of these really are just the same thing packaged differently. I'd be willing to bet you could get two identical 808s and convince people that we hear differences (which we might because of component differences that develop). So for me, I'd love to see different takes on the classic that don't try to do the classic as well as the classic. It's rather amusing to me that we guitar players do anything to avoid buying the classic when they are available but then want the different pedal to sound like the classic...and exactly like it! lol
Of these , I like Brians (Wampler) the best . Over all I like my WayHuge Green Rhino because you can adjust the frequencies and it just responds awesomely with evrything you out around it . Before or after .
Awesome video!✌🏽😎 I've been debating between the TS 808 and TS 10 for a while. The TS 808 has that classic warmth, but the TS 10's extra gain is tempting. Your demo really helps, thanks!
Wasn't in the video but I wanted to shout out the Tube Screamer Mini. Nearly identical to the original and in my opinion the small/subtle differences actually make it sound better. Its also about a third of the price.
I really enjoyed that. I've had the Beringer for a while and think it's perfectly good, but I was a little bit worried that it would sound like £20 lined up next to the others.
I have the Behringer. Soon after i bought it, i acquired the Maxon-the fancy Tamura Mod Anniversary version that was supposed to use all the old components from the original. Well, i could not tell the two pedals apart. So i sold the Maxon.... I still have the Behringer, but did not like looking at it amongst all the high-end pedals on my board, so i eventually convinced myself to get the Kingtone Duellist, but i have to say, even after having subsequently bought/tried the Ibanez TS808 reissue and a Green Rhino-they all sound the same. I only kept the Kingtone because the toggles make it easy to just quickly get a usable alternate tone if i switch guitars or amp profiles (Kemper). But, if i were advising someone, and they weren't gigging, i'd tell them to get the Behringer (or the Joyo Vintage Overdrive) and put the savings into a Vemuram.
@@CentaurusRelax314 Yeah, it's the most famous pedal ever. I would imagine that these companies know they will get roasted if it's not on the money, no matter what they use. At this point, as they say in the video, it's about extra features/the look. If we are being honest, a lot of these pedals are selling exclusivity through price and/or design. It's not the sound for most of these things. And even if the differences are there, there is no way anyone would notice in a "real" situation. It's truly amazing how the pedal industry has created major brands around at best minor differences.
@@RogerThat902 Roger that, Roger. With a lot of products, and maybe especially so with a Tube Screamer, you’re not buying empirical performance. You’re buying _confidence._ And that’s valid-up to a point. But, everyone is entitled to their own ‘point,’ right ?
the moxie is a ts10, not an 808. i have tried all of those and the moxie is my favorite, although i don't really use it in the standard setting, i use the alternate eq and clipping mode. a little fuller bottom end and a little less midhump. i just played tonight and the moxie was the only pedal i brought. front of a 3 monkeys orangutan. used it in the traditional ts settings and i have never gotten so many compliments.
Ive always thought srv set his gain at 0, Level at 10, and tone at 10. Thats where I start on my JHS bonsai for the 808,ts9, and ts10 modes. sounds spot on.
srv had many sounds and settings. he used so many different amps over the years he couldnt keep pedal settings the same. also sometimes he would use it as a clean boost, sometimes drive... bla bla. guess youre both right.
Loving the Origin pedal! (I'm not a ts guy) and the Halcyon is the perfected TS circuit for me. Have you guys ever tried the soloist from Kingtone? Truly amazing design as well.
The soloist is my go to, it's ended tubescreamers for me I'm never interested by anything else. My whole drive section is King Tone and I never have Overdrive pedal G.A.S anymore. There's a video on my channel which really shows off the soloist imo.
@@daviddorrian5349 kingtone are amazing pedals for sure! I only own the soloist and the fuzz (si) and they are the best on his kind. I'm checking your channel for sure, cheers.
Lee and Pete came into right conclusion here. They all sound pretty much the same. I can’t even tell the difference between TS9 and 808, if I tweak them a while they sound pretty much the same. Back in the day I chose TS9 over 808 just because I liked the switch better.
I really like those, but I ended up going with a VFE Pale Horse, as it had both high and low cut knobs, with three clipping options, which gave even more versatility than the Keeley modded one did.
As a sunset owner who has A/B'd it myself, I can tell the sunset apart. It's got so much good about it but there is one subtle quality on the sunset that I don't like and I can hear it here. It's like this slightly weird attack when the input goes from silent to hitting a note. And it's like it has slightly less dynamics than the others or something. My Boss GT1000 did the same thing so I think it's just the digital conversion. I only notice it when the guitar is isolated like it is here. Other than that, the sunset is perfect. But sometimes It is such a struggle for me to get over that tiny flaw.
Thats exactly what made me sell mine and I agree and know everything you say there. Yes the differences are small but when I plugged my King Tone Duellist and soloist back in I just went Ahhhh! The difference is so tiny but makes a huge difference for me playing.
The Behringer is 29.00 with free shipping off Sweetwater, it’s definitely the best value. There’s not a whole lot of tonal differences between all of these.
Josh from JHS praised Behringer. An interesting point he made was that many pedal & other music equipment manufacturers purchase Behringer components for their gear. I am not saying it's the case here but the fact remains
My Digitech Bad Monkey (USA version) is pretty good. I sold my modded TS-9 after playing it for a while. They were close and I probably wanted the $$. Somebody on thegearpage most likely suggested them.
Will anyone ever remember the VFE Pale Horse? 😄 I mean there’s only hundreds of Tubescreamers out there to choose from, released in the past few years…
I appreciate these videos that really try to figure out the differences between various pedals that do a similar thing. Most of us don't have a half dozen or so TS clones to compare which one would fit our rig best. Thanks.
You were wrong to turn the clean blend all the way down on the Halcyon when trying everything at noon. Origin were very clear that the clean blend at noon is where it would be true to the TS808 circuit.
I'd really love to hear such a shootout in a band setting. The moment the drummer hits his cymbals, everything changes.
The Behringer is amazing. Josh from JHS shot it out with an original Japanese Tube Screamer. And it sounded if not exactly the same, incredibly close. It sounded exactly the same to me. And I use the Behringer and it works so awesome.
I know, they almost feel naughty if music shops can’t make any money off them. But I built a very good board for very little money. And I guess then it kickstarts wanting better quality, or knowing you really like a certain effect and seeking out a better example.
In the US Behringer pedals are exclusive to SW, and aren't available anywhere else
Best purchase I ever made … and with change from a fifty… I got another behringer pedal 👍
If only they put them in a metal box, great pedal, let alone for the money
@@DougMen1 You can get them from several places online, not just sweetwater.
Have had a sparkle drive for years and years because I love the blend knob...
yep a ts type pedal must have a blend or mix knob for my money at least. adds so much versatility
Came for the pedal... stayed for the Blues... what playing Honore !
You guys are working at the third decimal place level, which makes an entertaining video to watch but to the Captains point killer for marketing, I’ll take the 20 quid Berhringer all day long, I’m just happy to hit the right string regardless the precision of the tone duplication
it would be really cool if in the future you could also include modeler versions of these pedals as well. Such as from the Helix range (HX effects). Great video as always!
They wouldnt do that, it would ruin them :D
That’d be fun - an 808 vs a 9DX and compare them to something like a wampler/way huge/JHS special edition as well as the behringer one, and then compare them all to the helix model, and then just for fun compare that to the zoom G1 four model of it lol.
Tube screamers are one of the most cloned pedals ever, gotta have some fun with it
Great shoot-out. I actually like the TS with humbuckers. I realise thanks to SRV and John Mayer a lot of strat players like the TS but please don’t forget us 335 and Les-Paul players.
I never think about TS with strats, but I also don't really listen to the type of music they're riffing on here. Would love to see one of these shootouts in a more rock n roll context.
What about us who play teles and SGs?
Funny you say this because after playing tube screamers with a strat at church for a few months, I finally did it with my Gretsch and it sounds so much clearer and "bigger". I decided no more strat lol
That "why did stevie cross the road?" joke must be the funniest Pete has ever done.
I love this demo. What I do believe is that, in order to spot a really good TS, you shouldn't just play it alone. But stacked with other drives or pushing the front end of an amp.
The winner is Andertons for doing another shootout. We simply love your shootouts. The only irritating thing is I have i buy the winner even if I do not need the bloody pedal! Love you guys.
I still love the Tube Screamer Mini - Best. It sounds like it has sightly more note-definition. Great comparison. Pete is such a great player. oNe LovE from NYC
Agreed. If someone is looking for a tube screamer that is either cheaper, smaller...whatever, I don't see any reason to not go w/ that one. It's funny how we spend all this money to get pedals that look different from the original but at the same time want it to sound like the original. The Mini is obviously not the original but it checks most of the boxes for why you might not want to buy an 808.
My favourite thing about Andertons vids is they learnt early on that it doesn't matter if you show the cheap option to be as good as something 5x the price EVEN as a retailer. They know people buy with their eyes and the fancy brand will sell regardless.
I've brought berhenger as a starter, I plan to upgrade them one day if they brake or I have more cash but they do what i want them to do, if I don't like the sound i haven't wasted a huge amount
Pedals are more for Instagram vs music especially the boutique ones
I bought the East River Drive before your last shootout video. I bought it just on the strength of the promo videos, and I wasn't disappointed. It's not for high gain and metal, it's more for crunch and breakup, and for that it's absolutely magic. Totally bostin!
I stack the East River Drive (low to medium gain) with a Blues Driver (higher gain). Glorious combo.
That east river drive sounds amazing
Love the Behringer T-808. Been using one for years or the Boss SD-1.
Honestly. Guys. I had this video running in the background while doing something else. 20 minutes into the video I was like “Oh wow, Pete’s still playing the first pedal”. In conclusion: I’m selling all my TS pedals and buy the Behringer. At least that’s what I’m gonna tell my wife. hehehe.
Finally! A Tubescreamer Shootout!!!
The behringer was my first overdrive pedal. Bought it about a year ago thinking I'd get an actual TS if i like it but it's so damn good I just keep using it lmao.
I did both shootouts without looking, and it was a lot of fun. East river drive came out on top for me on both. There were other pedals sounding good as well though.
The JHS Bonsai covers all the ground these do in one pedal. It's a damn fine pedal and a killer deal for 9 TS in one.
The JHS Bonsai is really a fine pedal indeed, but I got the Moxie and found it was more versatile in tonal variations
@@PedalPoopers I'm kind of new to all of this but am aware of the two pedals you speak of. How can 9 pedals not have more variation than one? I'm curious particularly with the price of the Bonsai why you'd buy anything else in the TS mid-$$$ space.
@@monochromedout iknow a lot of people who just dont like jhs.. then there are many that do. im in the first group and never felt the need to go there. just another middle of the road brand to me personally anyway. i get what you say about versatility completely though. for me at least, 9 tube screamers is too many. id rather have one good sounding one with a blend or mix nob for dry signal. thats why i would go elsewhere
@@monochromedout all tubes screamers are the same lol. It's barely any different in treble. I rather have one TS that is more customizable in tone. Bonsai modes also feel weak in overall tone when I abed it against a ts10 and ts9. It's a jack of trades master of none
You mean all the selections in the bonsai sound exactly the same? 😂 I kid
I own a number of original tube screamers from decades ago and oddly enough, either the EHX east river drive or the dreaded Behringer pedals sound exceptionally close to my originals, which I purchased as a young man decades ago
East River stays on my board!
can we just agree that hands down the best tubescreamer is still just the tubescreamer
Pete is correct. They all sound so similar. I don't like using external OD/DS. More color than desired.
Love my East River and use it specifically for tone and nothing else.
Interesting Tubescreamer, if you have one, would be throwing in the Scranton Screamer by Emerson.
Throw that in an mess with Pete.
Was actually looking at tube screamers a minute ago.
always feels happy to see you guys.
Electro harmonix East River Drive for me
It's a TS. Such a simple circuit. It's really just a matter of identifying whether you prefer the 808 vs ts9 vs ts10, but honestly, after owning roughly a dozen various ones from cheapest of the cheap to original to expensive af, I now just use a Mosky, cheap little mini chinese that makes great clones (basically what Mooer was before they started charging triple the price) and find it just as good as any other I've used. I do kind of want a Moxie though just for a nice ts10 clone and the voice switch, especially since I never really use the TS as a main overdrive, but it's in front of all my other overdrives and stacks beautifully with them (it sounds great w/ my klon(e), Hampstead Odyssey, and BB preamp. Have a Timmy on the way, too, so we'll see how it plays with that. Can never have too many overdrive/dirt pedals :)
The East River Drive actually sounded almost as good as the 808... again! Definitely most impressed by that one. The Halcyon sounded worst to me. Of course, that's just compared to other pedals trying to emulate the 808. Maybe, on its own, the Halcyon could sound okay. Pete was spot-on about the midrange sweetness from the 808.
the 808 schematic is so simple and cheap that nearly everyone more or less copies it.
the halcyon's sweet spot is when the dry knob is turned up, not at all emulating an 808 with no dry signal. also with the adaptive setting turned on, the halcyon really shines. i agree it doesn't sound great 100% wet and non-adaptive mode.
Great playing from Pete (I love the nod to Who Knows!) and, honestly, great tones out of all of the pedals! The Behringer sounds crazily good for £20, but I'd probably go for the Electro Harmonix for its metal case (I use the EH Glove and it's an excellent OD and built like a proverbial brick outhouse). That said, you could break 3 of the Behringers and still come away with a fiver compared with the cost of an East River! That's just bonkers!
for 20 you could always strip the guts out of the behringer and put it in a metal case... and still be cheaper than the others...
@@spud4242 Or- just buy a Joyo, Mosky, or Caline, etc- all in metal cases, all sell for between 20-30 bucks, all sound just as good or better than any of the pedals in this video. There are high dollar pedals worth paying for but- tube screamers aren't one of them imo. There are too many clones on the market that sound just as good as the high dollar models.
Excellent Shootout. I was very shocked at how similar each were!
Even the Behringer, will sound just like the expensive early ones.
Having high and low cut ability, is what really makes a difference for me. I still use the VFE Pale Horse, after many years of trying different versions of Screamers.
@@CorbCorbin nice, I’m thinking about getting the cornerstone antique V2 to go with the gladio SC that they make. I already have an Ibanez 808 but I don’t really like the light indicator and I don’t always like how it sounds or blends with other pedals
It's almost like almost every guitar pedal and pickup sound the same and guitarists are just gullible and willing to waste money on tone quests that don't matter
I am not a Tube Screamer fan at all, but that Wampler Moxie and Halcyon sound the best to me. But every TS pedal seems to have this issue where the sweet spot is very small. If the gain is too high, it loses definition, and if it’s too low it loses the sparkle. It’s a very small window for me to get them sounding the way I want. Which is probably why I usually go with a Blues Breaker or Dumble ODS style pedal instead. Those tend to have a much wider window of useful tones to my ears usually.
same opinion here, more into mellow Jazz n Blues ear...
I see tube screamer shoooootouts... I likeyyyyy! thanks to you:)
That strat looks amazing
Always great to see a "blind" test. Awesome room divider btw 😊
'darling, we need a room divider'
Maxon, creator of the tube screamer, perfected the TS with the OD820! IT's the best! But there are so many to choose from...
I own an OD820….great pedal!
Always looking forward to an Andertons vid 😁
i just grabbed and East River for $40 bucks. Feel like I got a great deal because i love EHX and the TS comparison proves how similar they all are
Hey! I have one of those strats! Ordered it from Andertons and I freaking love it! it's my favorite guitar that I own.
Great vid as always and lovely playing from Pete! Shout out to the Sparkle Drive from Voodoo Labs as well - the clean blend is so handy when stacking gain 👍👍👍
Indeed, all Voodoolab pedals are great, but often forgotten in shootouts. I have the Sparkledrive Mk1 and the Proctavia, great combo to stack!
Origin always gets the feel right
@Andertons Music Co Don't forget guys, Behringer has addressed the Plastic case problem by making it an "Electronic Switching" pedal instead of the steel stomper switch. You just press it lightly and it switches like majic with a little rubber cushion thingy and it's silent too, more or less. I have several different ones on my board and have never damaged one and ya can't really tell the difference so why not?
I can watch TS shootouts forever
I have a Berhinger. It sounds amazing with a Strat and cost me all of $30. If you put it on a pedalboard I recommend hooking it to a switcher like they have it here so you aren’t stomping on cheap plastic 😄
Analogman helped Electro Harmonix with the East River Drive. Posted about it on The Gear Page
Nice to see you used the Sunset. It is one pedal that never gets replaced on my board.
the only pedal that compared to the sunset for me was the revivaldrive hot rod. but then again, it's hard to compete with origin effects. pretty sure it's also not partly digital like the strymon.
My conclusion. Don't be a fool, Choose a cheap clone and take your loved one to a nice reastaurant.
Or keep hinting for a year then you will get one next bday
My Conclusion - lots of good choices here but if you only have space for a mini, the Moxie. I have one and it's really good
Halcyon is the one because I have just bought one dee dee dee dee dee dee! Groovy! 😉
I like the green one...
Bless you! You were sneezing in the thumbnail 😆
Cool Comparison. Thankyou. I have a Joyo Vintage Overdrive (Green in Color so I presume TS Copy) and it works for me ........ But I have a Behringer Bargain Pedal Board as my Everyday use at home Board where I have found and purchased Behringer pedals Cheap Second hand( they are $42- Australian New I have found 8 Behringer pedals for no more than $10- to $20- each). All The Behringer Pedals I have tried have been great and very usable sounds. I will need to add a Behringer Vintage Over Drive pedal soon hopefully as I see Positive reviews always. Cheers
Now I want to hear the Bonsai against the Moxie.
I didn’t need this. But I totally wanted it! Thanks Andertons!!!
Hey guys. Buddy Blues has a video about a boutique TS made by Appollo Approved. I have one and I think it's really worth trying.
Wasn't Analogman involved in the design of the East River Drive....??
I consider my Durple to also be a TS type, because it sounds very much like a TS, even with the mid control turned down a bit. Your Landlord Amber Nectar is also a TS, which is just a rebranded Rowin LEF-302B, their original TS type pedal
one control! no more words needed
The East River Drive is actually a clone of the TS808, and has the same, classic JRC4558 chip in it (which the TS9 doesn't have).
yup, they're such simple circuits (all TS variations, 808, ts9 and ts10), that there's no reason to spend a bundle on any pedal though. Just identify which of the 3 circuits you prefer and get one. The Mosky Mini Screamer is an exact clone with the JRC4558 and is never more than $30 new
There is a tubescreamer pedal that has been mounted into a panel from an RAF Tornado, and it has a cool VU Meter too. It's called the SonicAIM Crash... because it uses the crash panel from the Tornado.
I now have 4 TS or Overdrive or Fuzz pedals thanks to you...and I am not even good enough to utilize them properly... :D
i see tube screamer in the title & I know excellent stratty tones are inbound! the lads did not disappoint
Great video. I think the mini tube screamer actually scratches the itch for most of the reasons folks wouldn't buy the flagship. I don't see a ton of reason to not get that if you want to emulate the original (of course some have extra features and that's a good reason). So I'd be a little more interested in seeing different flavors of tubescreamers out there. Example being the plumes...that was supposedly inspired by the tubescreamer. To me, it doesn't sound like a screamer but is almost a hat tip to the scramer and that's why I find it interesting. Would love to see shootouts w/ examples of that kind of thing. It's also a reason someone should buy new "screamers" because a lot of these really are just the same thing packaged differently. I'd be willing to bet you could get two identical 808s and convince people that we hear differences (which we might because of component differences that develop).
So for me, I'd love to see different takes on the classic that don't try to do the classic as well as the classic. It's rather amusing to me that we guitar players do anything to avoid buying the classic when they are available but then want the different pedal to sound like the classic...and exactly like it! lol
Of these , I like Brians (Wampler) the best . Over all I like my WayHuge Green Rhino because you can adjust the frequencies and it just responds awesomely with evrything you out around it . Before or after .
Might aswell just buy the Behringer, sounds so good for so little money.
I already have an East River Drive, but I want that Wampler too.
I found that the east river didn't clean up when I lowered my guitar volume.
Not sure why.
Awesome video!✌🏽😎
I've been debating between the TS 808 and TS 10 for a while.
The TS 808 has that classic warmth,
but the TS 10's extra gain is tempting.
Your demo really helps, thanks!
no one needed a 48 minute long video shooting out tube screamers they all sound the same anyway. But I watched all of it anyway. Because I'm a nerd
"Why did Stevie cross the road? To find another tube screamer that sounded exactly the same as the other tube screamer" XD
Wasn't in the video but I wanted to shout out the Tube Screamer Mini. Nearly identical to the original and in my opinion the small/subtle differences actually make it sound better. Its also about a third of the price.
I love my Sunset. Never even thought of selling.
I really enjoyed that. I've had the Beringer for a while and think it's perfectly good, but I was a little bit worried that it would sound like £20 lined up next to the others.
I have the Behringer. Soon after i bought it, i acquired the Maxon-the fancy Tamura Mod Anniversary version that was supposed to use all the old components from the original. Well, i could not tell the two pedals apart. So i sold the Maxon.... I still have the Behringer, but did not like looking at it amongst all the high-end pedals on my board, so i eventually convinced myself to get the Kingtone Duellist, but i have to say, even after having subsequently bought/tried the Ibanez TS808 reissue and a Green Rhino-they all sound the same. I only kept the Kingtone because the toggles make it easy to just quickly get a usable alternate tone if i switch guitars or amp profiles (Kemper). But, if i were advising someone, and they weren't gigging, i'd tell them to get the Behringer (or the Joyo Vintage Overdrive) and put the savings into a Vemuram.
@@CentaurusRelax314 Yeah, it's the most famous pedal ever. I would imagine that these companies know they will get roasted if it's not on the money, no matter what they use. At this point, as they say in the video, it's about extra features/the look. If we are being honest, a lot of these pedals are selling exclusivity through price and/or design. It's not the sound for most of these things. And even if the differences are there, there is no way anyone would notice in a "real" situation. It's truly amazing how the pedal industry has created major brands around at best minor differences.
@@RogerThat902 Roger that, Roger. With a lot of products, and maybe especially so with a Tube Screamer, you’re not buying empirical performance. You’re buying _confidence._ And that’s valid-up to a point. But, everyone is entitled to their own ‘point,’ right ?
The East River sounds outstanding! The Moxy was kind of a letdown, even so the Halcyon
the moxie is a ts10, not an 808. i have tried all of those and the moxie is my favorite, although i don't really use it in the standard setting, i use the alternate eq and clipping mode. a little fuller bottom end and a little less midhump. i just played tonight and the moxie was the only pedal i brought. front of a 3 monkeys orangutan. used it in the traditional ts settings and i have never gotten so many compliments.
Fully expected Pete to just drop the guitar and walk out when you said he chose the Behringer
I love these videos! You guys could do a shootout about power supplies and I would watch!
Ive always thought srv set his gain at 0, Level at 10, and tone at 10. Thats where I start on my JHS bonsai for the 808,ts9, and ts10 modes. sounds spot on.
srv had many sounds and settings. he used so many different amps over the years he couldnt keep pedal settings the same. also sometimes he would use it as a clean boost, sometimes drive... bla bla. guess youre both right.
Loving the Origin pedal! (I'm not a ts guy) and the Halcyon is the perfected TS circuit for me. Have you guys ever tried the soloist from Kingtone? Truly amazing design as well.
The soloist is my go to, it's ended tubescreamers for me I'm never interested by anything else. My whole drive section is King Tone and I never have Overdrive pedal G.A.S anymore. There's a video on my channel which really shows off the soloist imo.
@@daviddorrian5349 kingtone are amazing pedals for sure! I only own the soloist and the fuzz (si) and they are the best on his kind. I'm checking your channel for sure, cheers.
The Rodenberg Shakedown Drive is my favourite and super versatile (unlike most TS style pedals).
Lee and Pete came into right conclusion here. They all sound pretty much the same. I can’t even tell the difference between TS9 and 808, if I tweak them a while they sound pretty much the same. Back in the day I chose TS9 over 808 just because I liked the switch better.
Though it wasn't in the shootout, Keeley's 808 mod still remains as the best screamer ever.
I really like those, but I ended up going with a VFE Pale Horse, as it had both high and low cut knobs, with three clipping options, which gave even more versatility than the Keeley modded one did.
This video would be good as a podcast, too
As a sunset owner who has A/B'd it myself, I can tell the sunset apart. It's got so much good about it but there is one subtle quality on the sunset that I don't like and I can hear it here.
It's like this slightly weird attack when the input goes from silent to hitting a note. And it's like it has slightly less dynamics than the others or something. My Boss GT1000 did the same thing so I think it's just the digital conversion. I only notice it when the guitar is isolated like it is here. Other than that, the sunset is perfect. But sometimes It is such a struggle for me to get over that tiny flaw.
Thats exactly what made me sell mine and I agree and know everything you say there. Yes the differences are small but when I plugged my King Tone Duellist and soloist back in I just went Ahhhh!
The difference is so tiny but makes a huge difference for me playing.
Subscribed for the Klon 😂 thanks for your videos guys
The Behringer is 29.00 with free shipping off Sweetwater, it’s definitely the best value. There’s not a whole lot of tonal differences between all of these.
This is the kind of comparison where you start hearing things that aren't there, they all sound the same, it's a tube screamer
All sound pretty good, imo you cant beat the classic 808 or TS9 👍
“Stevie if you’re watching” has to be one of Lee’s biggest blunders
If you play a Strat, a Tube Screamer is hard to beat, especially in a band context. Choose the cheapest as they all sound 99% the same.
Josh from JHS praised Behringer. An interesting point he made was that many pedal & other music equipment manufacturers purchase Behringer components for their gear. I am not saying it's the case here but the fact remains
The green one sounds best ☝🏻☝🏻
the cornerstone you had the comp switch on which is probably why it felt weird to Pete. Cause it had some compression
You can get an EHX east river drive or a boss sd1 for under 50 bucks used. Get those
This prooves that TS are just Hype.
My Digitech Bad Monkey (USA version) is pretty good. I sold my modded TS-9 after playing it for a while. They were close and I probably wanted the $$. Somebody on thegearpage most likely suggested them.
Will anyone ever remember the VFE Pale Horse? 😄
I mean there’s only hundreds of Tubescreamers out there to choose from, released in the past few years…
I appreciate these videos that really try to figure out the differences between various pedals that do a similar thing. Most of us don't have a half dozen or so TS clones to compare which one would fit our rig best. Thanks.
You were wrong to turn the clean blend all the way down on the Halcyon when trying everything at noon. Origin were very clear that the clean blend at noon is where it would be true to the TS808 circuit.
This video is brutal!Love that. :)
10:20 peter honore acting like he took some psychedelics the way he rubs his face and opens his eyes right after !! hahahahahaha