Three Houses vs. Engage [Discussion Video]

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  • It's time for the ultimate debate: Three Houses or Engage?
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  • @Carlama
    @Carlama ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Bro did not just say engage has a strong story😭😭. Engage has to have the most bland story I’ve played in a long time

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When comparing it to recent titles, it’s admittedly better than most, but that’s just my opinion

    • @sakutaro3musik486
      @sakutaro3musik486 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      @@nintenbroalex no hate but the ratio begs to differ

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ⁠@@sakutaro3musik486to each their own, no ratio or anything, it’s all opinions 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @bradleydrake6941
      @bradleydrake6941 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@nintenbroalex it's.. really not

    • @unclebobboomergames
      @unclebobboomergames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@bradleydrake6941 literally is. Thats how art works

  • @tationotaliaferro8418
    @tationotaliaferro8418 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    In Three Houses, I like how unique the characters felt outside of just their stats thanks to their individual combat arts and spell lists.

    • @inigosorneiz4536
      @inigosorneiz4536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But they doesn't have any special class which make them less unique

  • @Midnitethorn
    @Midnitethorn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I feel like engage was a lot like fates in its story. It was very ambitious and had promise but somehow they just couldn't quite tie it all together to make it interesting or flush it out enough. 3 houses had this issue too but I feel like they did a better job of it and had more time for us to get to know and care about the characters

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wholeheartedly agree

    • @nahte123456
      @nahte123456 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      As a Fates fan I rather disagree. Fates had a great STORY, it was let down by the writing. Like if I just made a bullet point list of plot points there isn't a single thing wrong or disappointing with it and just about every complaint you see about the story, like Norh being 'evil' or the Throne revealing things, all of those are answered. There's really nothing but positives about the Fates story, it's how it's delivered that's just all kinds of fucked over.
      Engages story is just kind of lacking, it's a straight line with several holes in it and choices that just don't really work. You need a pretty fundamental rewrite to fix things like fighting the Hounds multiple times or building up how the Emblems reappeared in the final fight or how the Miracle worked.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nahte123456 yeah I feel like engage had a “anime plot line” style thing where things worked because they worked but fates had a weird structure where you play so much game BEFORE your choice matters that may completely change your perception on the game (I.e. I purchased conquest as my first EVER fire Emblem game and I took a while to actually finish it because I disagreed with my own “side” that I purchased I couldn’t do anything about it because the way the game is structured is you buy the side you want to be on without any real knowledge of the characters until it’s too late and even when I did complete ALLA of the stories, there are still many things that you don’t know or things that we’re just kind of lost over or thrown in (which was later confirmed by the fire emblem developers because they wanted to do a lot more with it, but couldn’t do too much since the 3DS cartridge size was too small.) I feel like if they took their time to fix the story and pacing and make it where your purchase seems less of a “welp too late to change your decision” and give you a reason to WANT to stay with your side even after your purchase, then I’d be in higher spirits about it. Not to say it’s a bad game because the idea behind it is what led to three house, but I feel like it was ahead of it’s time and a bit rushed, but that’s just my opinion.

  • @EpicPaul64
    @EpicPaul64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Three Houses blew my mind when I first played it, and Engage came nowhere close to that hype. However, a few things Engage did better are the graphics and battle animations, the overall battle mechanics and the Emblems bringing back classic moments from series history! However, Three Houses overall felt like a more grand and traditional package, especially in the music and voice acting.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      100% agree with you, I just want a fire Emblem with the gameplay of engage but structure of three houses

    • @EpicPaul64
      @EpicPaul64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In that case, I hope you eventually get a copy of Path of Radiance! Sure, it's an older Fire Emblem game, so it doesn't have a lot of the advancements Three Houses does, but it has aged remarkably well... and it has Ike, who is my favorite Fire Emblem Lord!

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EpicPaul64 yes! I’m actually looking into investing into those games right now actually

    • @inigosorneiz4536
      @inigosorneiz4536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​What kind of advancement does have Three Houses ?

    • @EpicPaul64
      @EpicPaul64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inigosorneiz4536, that's a pretty lengthy answer, so the short version is that Three Houses has a full monastery to explore, battalions, special moves, better voice acting, etc.

  • @songsofachilles
    @songsofachilles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Three Houses was my first FE game and had me hooked instantly by the story and gameplay and I binge played all 4 routes + the DLC. When I got Engaged I was pretty disappointed from a writing perspective, but the gameplay was superb and I noticed a huge upgrade in it from TH (and graphically as well). TH is basically made to be re-playable, and I felt like Engage fell short of that, as well. Overall I still enjoyed TH much more than Engage since the story felt mostly very strong to me with good gameplay, and the Engage writing was so laughable at some parts it took me out of the immersion. Apparently two different teams made the two games, so my hope is that the next release the working team can combine the strong story elements of TH with the strong gameplay of Engage and make an elevated final product.

    • @inigosorneiz4536
      @inigosorneiz4536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Three houses is one of the least replayable FE, it's a trap to think it is.

    • @LeonSKennedy7777
      @LeonSKennedy7777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would you say TH is the best Fire Emblem game? 🔥 where would be the best place to start with Fire Emblem?

    • @songsofachilles
      @songsofachilles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LeonSKennedy7777 I've only played Three Houses and Engage! But Three Houses was by far my favorite because of how amazing the stories of each house were and the character development of such a large cast of characters. But Engage definitely had the better gameplay and better graphics, but very weak story (in my opinion). Three Houses gameplay is still good tho! So I'd definitely recommend starting with Three Houses and then trying Engage if you enjoy it :)

    • @LeonSKennedy7777
      @LeonSKennedy7777 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@songsofachilles I will do now! The majority opinion is that TH was one of the best Fire Emblems ever and Engage was mostly disappointing in several areas. So it’s good to reinforce that by your testimonial!

    • @inigosorneiz4536
      @inigosorneiz4536 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imo there is no such thing as best place to start fire emblem, but there are games that should not be your first experience those are Fire Emblem 5 : Thracia 776 because the game is hard if you're not familiar with fire emblem and it has twisted mecanic, Fire Emblem : Radiant Dawn because the story it's the sequel of Path of Radiance so you'd miss a lot of things in the plot. Aside from these all are good, it will depends of what you want to have an emphasis on : story or gameplay etc.

  • @rayzhao1534
    @rayzhao1534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I played all FEs starting from GBA era, and I might be the minority here but I enjoy Engage more than THs. I agree with everyone that the story and character development is weak in Engage and I barely feel associated with any of these characters, unlike what I had in Three houses. But besides this, everything else feels like a step up in the right direction. I felt Three Houses is too easy even on hardest difficulty but Engage is just about right that gives you a classic FE vibe. Social aspect is also a bit too much in Three Houses and it's the biggest reason that kept me away from re-playing the game. I totally get that people prefer THs more than Engage but just want to share my opinion.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely fair opinion, I say it ultimately comes down to what kind of game the player wants, yaknow? As in story vs gameplay

    • @zhennir
      @zhennir 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you said "everything else feels like a step up in the right direction" what exactly are you referring to? I'm thinking about buying FE Engage and I wanna know insight of people that have already played it

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zhennir step up in gameplay, step down in story

    • @rayzhao1534
      @rayzhao1534 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@zhennir this is straight comparing to 3H: less social aspect, better tactical combat, better graphics, better weapon system, ring system is great, difficulty is on point, more like a traditional FE.

  • @essixthefalcon8657
    @essixthefalcon8657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Id actually disagree about Engage having a better hub place. It might have morw things to do, but they get stale very quickly(I say as someone who got bored of fishing in Three Houses after like 4 playthroughs) but Three Houses hub is much more story-connected hub than Engage. You dont get any intel in Somniel about whats happening, minus some rare instances of the royals reacting to the plot. Compare that to the NPCs in Garrag Mach, who have unique dialogue for every month, which really elevates the area from just 'a hub' to something with its own life.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s very fair! When looking at the hubs my main takeaway was definitely the “things to do” aspect of it, but I agree the Monastery has more impact story-wise, absolutely!

    • @NightRaven5568
      @NightRaven5568 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I prefer the Sominel because the activities are much quicker and it doesn't take long at all until your next battle

    • @essixthefalcon8657
      @essixthefalcon8657 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NightRaven5568 Hella valid! It really depends on what you look for in a lobby(i say taht as if replaying 3 houses isn't making me fret due to monestary sections ghfgkadjg)

  • @orvaldurgumundson1809
    @orvaldurgumundson1809 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Here are my poins.
    Music: engage
    Story: houses
    Characters: houses
    Gimmick: emblems
    Difficulty: engage
    Hub world: Somniel
    Art style: houses
    DLC: CINDERED SHADOWS BY FAR

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All very fair, some of these were really hard to choose between haha but yeah, I loved Cindered Shadows!

    • @Luigidreamteamfan
      @Luigidreamteamfan ปีที่แล้ว +9

      3 Houses solos in Music

    • @hyperm8
      @hyperm8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      gonna have to disagree with you on music, while Engage's isn't bad I don't like that they brought back enemy phase music and also some songs (including the final boss song) just aren't that good

    • @orvaldurgumundson1809
      @orvaldurgumundson1809 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hyperm8 that's fair, i just prefer the casual music in engage while i like the music in the more important fights in houses.

    • @kevingame3198
      @kevingame3198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But the graphics have been improved over three houses especially uses the same engine as last year’s Warriors Three hopes probably unity engine

  • @BulbaWhat98
    @BulbaWhat98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I appreciate how the Switch has two pretty different but still solid Fire Emblem games

    • @julienherard414
      @julienherard414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't really call Engage solid but rather half-baked.

    • @julienherard414
      @julienherard414 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gameplay alone doesn't make a solid fire emblem game. While Engage does have great gameplay and graphics, everything else is either mediocre or laughably bad. A solid Fire Emblem game would at LEAST have appealing character design and a somewhat engaging story.

    • @NightRaven5568
      @NightRaven5568 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@julienherard414I disagree while a good story can be memorable I play games for the gameplay unless it's a VN or something and engage has much better gameplay and class balance

  • @hr-g4640
    @hr-g4640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    gameplay wise Engage, story wise Three Houses, characters? I think both games have amazing characters

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Completely fair and I agree

  • @DuoFaceGaming
    @DuoFaceGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    From my experience, Three Houses would've been better if I hadn't taken a second glance into the story, it makes some rather questionable choices, and I feel like comparatively, the plotholes in Engage are far more excusable, because where Three Houses is going for a somewhat deep narrative with a lot of nuance, Engage is going for an almost shonen good vs bad feel and it nails what it needs to to accomplish that
    SPOILER FOR BL ROUTE BELOW BTW
    Like why does it take Dimitri a grand total of two lines from Byleth to effectively overcome a 5-year long depression, like he was so well done up until that point

    • @tirex3673
      @tirex3673 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have the exact opposite experience, I can overlook some of three houses flaws, because of how ambitious it is. I have problems with every route and there is some level of missing finish at many spots. (VW and to a lesser extent AM being (superior) copies of SS in a way, that feels like it holds all three of them back, and CF being shorter and missing cutscenes.) However, I can overlook those flaws, because the problems in the grand scheme of things are small enough for me to be able to ignore them, while enjoying the characters and lore. (I want to note here, that Ambition doesn't always save a story for me, see Fates, which might have been a good concept and shows some promise in theory, but whatever they started with, is so mangled by bad writing, that I can't tell, if it was any good in the first place. (Though the Fates Manga is pretty good, and probably the best was to experience the half of Revelation, it covers.)).
      In contrast, while I do like parts of Engage's story, even some parts that are more controversial, It gets hard to ignore, that a few times, it feels like, there is some scene missing, or the villains seem to be able to just do things with little explanation, how, also It doesn't help, that some characters in cutscenes seem to just appear there to stand around and watch. It also doesn't help, that the one thing, I do find the most interesting, feels under explored. The characters do have some stand outs, but it's not enough.

    • @Ultimabuster92
      @Ultimabuster92 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe because it wasn't really what Byleth said, but the fact that Rodrigue died, which was a huge blow to Dimitri that forced him to wake up? Byleth played a part but wasn't the main reason for Dimitris recovery. It was essentially Dimitri's fault that Rodrigue died. If he had not killed Randolph in such a brutal manner, Fleche wouldn't seek revenge as much and she wouldn't have thrown everything out of the window just to kill Dimitri. And if Dimitri had listened to others, he wouldn't have invaded the empire yet and instead returned to Faerghus first to settle things at home. These were HIS mistakes and he paid the price with Rodrigues life. You can't give that to Byleth just because he/she talked to him afterwards.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The worst part about 3 houses is realizing that because every route is treated with the same amount of “rightness” in the narrative, nothing actually matters and all you accomplish is figuring out which real world ideology you like best.
      At least in Fates, even discounting Revelation, you fight two completely different campaigns. 3H is fighting Edelgard 75% of the time and joining her against a strawwoman of Rhea 25% of the time.

  • @e.angelg.caballero1798
    @e.angelg.caballero1798 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fe3h has new game+.
    That makes it better.

  • @GermoDante
    @GermoDante 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Three houses is better in character design, story, dialogue, voice acting and overall Fire Emblem feel (It takes itself seriously).
    Engage is better in the graphics, gameplay and animation department, it's a better Fire Emblem gameplay wise.
    I think both of them are lacking in certain key aspects that give them what is necessary to rank among what I'd call the "good" Fire Emblems. A hypothetical game that fused the good things from both games would be an instant classic.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s exactly what I’m hoping for in the next installment

    • @justmichauuu
      @justmichauuu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but... Three Houses has a great story and characters while quite good gameplay while Engage has mediocre story and great gameplay. So overall I think that Three Houses could be called a good Fire Emblem Game.

  • @theomegaumbreonmemechannel135
    @theomegaumbreonmemechannel135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Goated video. So goated that i watched the 14 minute video in 8 minutes. Im just THAT cool. Just like that time when i wrestled 9 alligators-

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh boy here we go again lmaooo

  • @evangraham2254
    @evangraham2254 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I bought Fire Emblem Engage last week which I haven't completed yet. My experience of that game was mixed. While I do love the mechanics they made like the emblems and story telling. I find it difficult to grind experience point from the free battles because the enemies are apparently levels higher than my units which are easy to kill in earlier chapters. I also find that unlike Three Houses and other past games you gain money from winning, but here I have to go to certain areas where I can get money but struggled with the fights and most my units using a lot of staves and healing items. I can't even purchase the current weapons and items(especially the master seals) in the shops because the battles felt like they're to difficult. This is on Normal difficulty and Casual mode. I do like the game, I just wish they just have money for rewards in the free battles more often.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, money is definitely hard to come by unless you do EVERY activity that yields gold at every opportunity, it’s very unforgiving unless you run a specific build with a money based skill on specific maps to grind money

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tell me you suck at FE without telling me you suck at FE.

    • @RobinPochita
      @RobinPochita 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No way you’re having this much of a struggle on engage… with that difficulty 😭

  • @gemodemplay415
    @gemodemplay415 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I almost finished Engage, I have 6 chapters left which I will do today most likely. I do not know if I want to play Three Houses though. The calendar system seems tiring and a lot of homework and I don't think I have the time for that. Should I still play Three Houses?

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The calendar system is simply a way to show time passing; you have a set amount of time to level up units, build support, and do other things like that. The “homework” is just telling students what skills to work towards, the most thinking you have to do is in the fights and making your first decision on what house to join; its not as overwhelming as you may think. I say it’s a great game to get in my opinion

    • @gemodemplay415
      @gemodemplay415 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nintenbroalex I see. Thanks for the insight!

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gemodemplay415 of course! Glad I can help!

  • @Dstag
    @Dstag 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Golden Deer was my favorite crew.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The golden deer is easily the funniest crew and some of the most relatable of the bunch, sadly has the weakest main story, but still my personal favorite

  • @chanc1867
    @chanc1867 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow i could not agree more. Both games are just incredible good and fun. But in the end i come to the same conclusion as you (even when i am not on your side with music and hub area).

  • @kevingame3198
    @kevingame3198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This discussion reminds me of of wich armored core is better between ac for answer and ac verdict day

  • @iridmeilien
    @iridmeilien 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    3Houses for ever ❤ hhaha

  • @davidcordaro288
    @davidcordaro288 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Three Houses all day, Engage bored me out of my mind and stopped playing it.

  • @Chifuyubestboy
    @Chifuyubestboy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    out of curiosity, whats the background song name during the conclusion?

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Here ya go! th-cam.com/video/tu2U5sRTFeA/w-d-xo.html

    • @Chifuyubestboy
      @Chifuyubestboy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nintenbroalex thanks man :)

  • @claudevonrunningman
    @claudevonrunningman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I beat all four routes of Three Houses pretty quickly and had fun on all of them (well, less so SS.) Though flawed, I love the story and character, and I appreciate how much the game modified the formula.
    On the other hand, I’ve had Engage since launch and still haven’t beaten it because it’s so difficult to care about it. Nothing in Engage’s story is engaging. Most of the characters are one note with few interesting interactions, and some of the emblems feel like they’ve been stripped of most of their personality. I will give it up to emblems making gameplay really interesting though.
    Edit: Alear is the most boring protagonist I’ve ever seen in an FE game. Going from Shez in Three Hopes to this Pepsi product placement has been a super disappointing whiplash.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Engaged definitely felt rushed compared to the love that three houses got (for the most part) but I feel that if the story and characters were worked on a bit more, it would be so much better

    • @claudevonrunningman
      @claudevonrunningman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nintenbroalex What’s strange about that is Engage was done for quite a while before it came out. In fact I think the reason Three Hopes felt slightly rushed was because they wanted to push it out so they could release Engage already

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@claudevonrunningman interesting, I never really thought about that at all

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "still haven’t beaten it because it’s so difficult"
      Good. Hopefully this game scares people like you off the series and it can go back to being en excellent gameplay-centric series that doesn't pander to weirdos who are sexually attracted to manga illustrations.

    • @claudevonrunningman
      @claudevonrunningman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@lracseroom8286 I wasn’t talking about gameplay difficulty. Engage’s gameplay is very fun and well balanced. I said caring about the story was difficult because it’s so bland that it barely leaves an impression.

  • @0MujaKina0
    @0MujaKina0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Three Houses is the best!😄 So many colorful characters!

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s so good for their characters, I agree!

  • @dragonking2248
    @dragonking2248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, I'm still not sure which one I should buy? All I really want is another Fire Emblem game like Awakening, (my first FE game) and Birthright. Unfortunately, none of the reviews have really helped me decide, since all of the reviews I have seen make both games seem awesome! *Sigh*. Oh well I still have a few games to play through before I need something new. Great review!

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you’re looking for something similar to Awakening, Fire Emblem Engage is probably the closest to it, but if you’re looking for closer to Birthright, Fire Emblem Three Houses, but either way, I HIGHLY recommend playing both, they are great in their own rights!

    • @dragonking2248
      @dragonking2248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nintenbroalex Thank you. In that case I might as well just buy them both when the time is right.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dragonking2248 I hope you enjoy the games as much as I did!

    • @dragonking2248
      @dragonking2248 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nintenbroalex Thanks! 😃

  • @mylegislong6357
    @mylegislong6357 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Three houses was alright, I enjoyed engage more because it’s closer to a classic FE game , I also got super tired of the social aspect of three houses

  • @DarkLore1992
    @DarkLore1992 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hot take time! I feel the supports flowed better in engage. Don't misunderstand however. Three houses has amazing supports. But I really feel like some dragged on a bit long. Not in a boring way. Just could have been a bit shorter. I have a game to play man.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally get that

  • @infamousincubus2888
    @infamousincubus2888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awakening is better

  • @garrettwidner6915
    @garrettwidner6915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Engage literally copy-pasted parts of fates and awakening. I can't stand how horrible the story is, how generic the characters are, and how generic weeb anime the character models are.

  • @Cayden.1
    @Cayden.1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    did you do three houses maddening on ng+?

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  ปีที่แล้ว

      First time yes, second time no

  • @zsoltpallanki7954
    @zsoltpallanki7954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The story in Engage is nothing special just like you said, but it has some major issues with the gameplay as well such as:
    1, The game doesn't tell you that a character only obtain SP points if it equipped with a ring (emblem or bondring) it just says that SP can be obtained by battle and there I was with Louis with only 300 SP sice the moment i met him and yet Kagetsu reciving a ton of SP points.
    2, The chain attack mechanic is bullshit! It nullifies the effectiveness of your tank units it doesn't matter if they are regular tanks or dodge tanks they will be olbliterated by it. And no you can't bring up Pair Up (Corrin's skill) you can aquire that just later on the game.
    3, You constantly have to sacrafice your units to complete a chapter or paralouge with I hate to do. I've never played a Fire Emblem game in classic mode but i always rewinded time when one of my characters died, because I wanted all of them to live to the very end. But not here!
    4, There are waaaaaay too many reinforcements for your opponent wich is the most disgusting mechaninc in every fire emblem game. And sometimes they send in the units into the shadows wich I can't see! How the hell am I supposed to prepare for that?
    It's just like when you play chess and you locked the centre, rerouted the knights to one side of the board an you are ready to launch the pawns and suddenly after moving one a 3rd bishop from outside the board comes in and takes your rook. And you say:
    "What the hell was that?"
    "Reinforcements! I can call upon units outside the board!"
    "OK so how can I have them?"
    "You don't!"
    "OK so how will I be warned before they come in?"
    "You don't!"
    All of this made me get the game over screen 6 times in a row on hard mode. And a couple days ago ragequit as well.
    Fire Emblem Three Houses is the best Fire Emblem game and this is just brain cancer! I regret buying it!

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, any fire Emblem, especially with engage, can be extremely infuriating with pair up, reinforcements, chain attacks, etc and can make a fun experience turn sour which is why I always do my first run experience in the easiest difficulty on casual mode. But even with enough playtime and confidence, the harder modes can sometimes still be brutal, again, especially with engage.
      Sorry that you have such negative feelings towards that game but I’m glad you at least enjoy three houses for what it has to offer! 😅

    • @heathersmith4042
      @heathersmith4042 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think 2 and 3 were nice problems that significantly increased the difficulty which is something people have been asking for for a while. Now I can no longer just chuck Louis into a mob of enemies without using any thought at all, who is so absurd that you can just use him normally through the game and he could destroy virtually any mob you could encounter. The game is designed around chain attack existing, both for you and for enemies, and I promise if you take it into account before moving, and are just more conservative with how you advance, it clicks. Hell, my Maddening runs, some maps were even a little *easier* because of exactly that, and I didn't even need to give Louis Pair Up. Not accounting for chain attacks probably contributed to how you found it so difficult to not clear a map without sacrificing units.
      Reinforcements I do agree with. By the end of the game it's obscene. I've seen people comment that it forces you to play better and advance quicker, but it certainly didn't do that for me. It forced me to move like one tile per turn or desperately cobble together a warp skip because I actually couldn't handle them on maddening. 23 had INFINITE reinforcements with FREEZE staffs. I think at some point Zephia just got fucking bored and flew over to me and that was the only reason I was able to end the map. That may reward very high level-players but it just blatantly punishes anyone who can't play at that level, and the skill needed to play that well is high enough that most people won't hit it. There are challenge runs and mods for anyone who wants that level of difficulty, the base game doesn't need it.

    • @zsoltpallanki7954
      @zsoltpallanki7954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@heathersmith4042 My problem with the chain mechanic was the following:
      Originally mages are designed for dealing with tank units by simply using any spell. And if you encounter a dodge tank you simply use a spell that has very high or infinite accuracy to hit them. My favourite unites are dodge tanks. It's mesmerising to see one of my units just dodging all of the enemy attacks and dealing crit damage back. That's why Petra was one of my favourite units in Three Houses (the only one better than her is Marianne. She is the definicion of character development.). Her record was killing 4 war masters in the enemy turn without taking any damage. And my first unit that achieved 100% crit ratio. I simply wanted a unit in this game as well that's just like her. That would have been Kagetsu. But I can't even send him to deal with enemies that use tomhawks. It's no longer a fair 1v1 it's 1v many.

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      "It didn't hold my hand hard enough! Wah!"

    • @zsoltpallanki7954
      @zsoltpallanki7954 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lracseroom8286 If that's all you can say you can go back to the ballet to continue the jumpings.

  • @sakutaro3musik486
    @sakutaro3musik486 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    engage story wasn´t strong at all, it was the worste fire emblem story on pair with fates

    • @claudevonrunningman
      @claudevonrunningman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What’s worse is Fates is at least so dumb that it’s funny. Engage is too bland to care about

    • @lracseroom8286
      @lracseroom8286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      *Looks into crystal ball*
      You started playing FE at Awakening and think that makes you an expert on the series.

  • @purplemorganite2768
    @purplemorganite2768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Three Houses was my first Fire Emblem game and Engage was my second, that here's my comparison between the two Switch games: Gamplay(not including exploring but battle only) in terms of gameplay they both have great game play but one thing about Engage's game play that I don't like is that it's a gameover if Alear dies in battle this was not in Three Houses. Story: Three Houses wins by a landslide.
    Characters: Three Houses has amazing characters
    Graphics: We can all agree that Three Houses had terrible graphic for Switch standards, Engage wins by landslide, a nice attention to detail that I love about Engage's animations is the facial animations if an ally has low HP they will bend over in pain and put their hand on their chest and if they're engaged and have low HP, they will bend over put their hand on their abdomen. This was not in Three Houses
    Music: I just think that Three Houses has more memorable battle music, that said there are some battle music in Engage that I absolutely love: Royal Confidence, Royal Confidence(Might), Bright Sandstorm, Bright Sandstorm(Fiery)
    Re playable: Because Three Houses has 4 routes (5 including DLC), Three Houses has more replayability than Engage due to Engage only having one route.
    Based on what I have said Three Houses is better but Engage is a great game if you give it a chance.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely! I love both of these games and would love to see more just like them, but only time will tell!

    • @vocaphelia
      @vocaphelia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      but it was a gameover? if byleth or your house leader died you lost

    • @purplemorganite2768
      @purplemorganite2768 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vocaphelia True but in casual mode it isn't. A game over in casual mode is if all of your allies die in battle that's what I was trying to say, sorry for the confusion.

  • @IexistIguessidk
    @IexistIguessidk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly Three Houses to me is a game that got worse the more I played it. Not just having to go through the same maps so many times. The story also barely changes, outside of Chrimson flower, between the routes. Only some details change. This caused me to care less and less every following playthrough and looking back, I kinda regret doing them.
    Engage has the gameplay as the hook. Three Houses does not have that. Even when on easier difficulties Engage useses its systems in an interesting way. It makes it the more fun experience in my eyes.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  ปีที่แล้ว

      And that’s totally fair; for me, even though the stories weren’t all too different, it’s still more story than what engage got, but yes, the gameplay was a little lackluster; if I could get a fire emblem with engages gameplay and three houses story structure, it would be an 11/10 for me

  • @charsage1036
    @charsage1036 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly my view on engage is amazing gameplay but god awful story and Characters.

  • @jessequeen4550
    @jessequeen4550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I genuinely couldn't get myself to finish Engage because the story and writing was some of the absolute worst I have ever seen in any media I have personally experienced. Gameplay was neat and challenging, but it couldn't do nearly enough for how hard I cringed every time a character opened their mouth

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah a LOT of characters were very one-note and made the story meh because of it, but I enjoyed it to the end even if it was cliche

  • @charsage1036
    @charsage1036 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are you smoking to think engage has strong story the reason it flopped is it's story extremely bad.

  • @17jacoyne
    @17jacoyne 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is gonna stir a bunch of hate comments but.....engage is FAR better than three houses i mean fire emblem three houses is my LEAST favorite fire emblem game! the story really set a new low for my opinion on the fire emblem games! i just can't stand how intense and game of thronsey three houses story is! and to think that that game is produced by the same guys who made super mario bros and donkey kong!

  • @pamelahermano9298
    @pamelahermano9298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Engage felt like a lazy piece of product after having played Three Houses. Three Houses on the other hand felt like a labor of love. I’ve played Three Houses 8 times over because I felt there was so much to discover. I played Engage once and couldn’t bring myself to try again I was just so bored with it. It felt average in every way.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s definitely a step back, I agree, but I feel it had some good quality of life stuff

    • @pamelahermano9298
      @pamelahermano9298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nintenbroalex don’t get me wrong, it did a lot of things right, especially in the graphics side of things, but as a package (characters, storyline, music) it didn’t keep me engaged (pardon the pun). And I think a lot would probably agree with me when you look at Engage’s sales numbers falling off a cliff. I hope the next game will take the best of 3Hs and Engage and no doubt if they do that, we’ll get something special.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pamelahermano9298 yeah I’m hoping for a best of both worlds, the best of what both games did right

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s pretty funny considering the soul-draining amount of maps that 3 Houses reused in each very short war phase of its routes, not to mention the copying between VW and SS. I have no clue how you didn’t grow to hate it after 8 playthroughs, let alone 4. It wasn’t love, it was unchecked ambition that made the game so big yet unfocused

    • @pamelahermano9298
      @pamelahermano9298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@emblemblade9245 I always had the option skipping scenes that repeated. But I was able to build a character into different classes and see how they performed and there were supports I’ve never seen between two characters before and of course whatever differences story wise there were between paths. As for the repeated maps, I didn’t mind it as it was fun levelling up my characters. To each their own I guess.

  • @chvrr
    @chvrr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will say that what I do love about Engage is that a lot of the characters are bisexual and that is nice, but other than that I found the story and a lot of it's characters to be bland. Also Engage's DLC story left me with so many questions that made no sense to me (ex. why did Mauvier still have the same personality and name compared to his other comrades?)
    So yeah I still like FE3H better.

    • @nintenbroalex
      @nintenbroalex  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The S ranks were much more satisfying in engage, I agree, but yeah the mauvier thing in the dlc was also very confusing to me; I believe it’s just because “he’s the ideal character” therefore, no change, but idk, just weird choice imo
      But agreed

  • @tommyortiz6623
    @tommyortiz6623 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both games are bad if you look at how combat plays out and engage just looks worst since the characters all look super gay! At least 3 houses, the men did not have all these colors in their hair. The characters looked solid and it looks like a war game! Please tell me what is up with Lythos and Alfred? Super disappointing character designs.