Since I’m getting this comment a lot, when I wrote the video, I was aware that Anya’s costume as Spider-Girl is based on one of the character’s original designs. But my issue is that they chose to use an iteration of the outfit that looked just like Venom’s and gave no explanation for it within the show itself. Just wanted to clear that up! As always, here are the Music Credits: 0:10 Track 12 - Spider-Man (Sega CD) 2:26 Spidey Training - Ultimate Spider-Man Game 5:38 Get to the Bank! - Spider-Man (PS1) 5:42 Hairy Legs - Spider-Man 2 Game 8:44 Digital Circuit - Shadow The Hedgehog 11:00 Free Roam 3 - Ultimate Spider-Man Game 16:14 Spidey Skychase - Ultimate Spider-Man Game 18:07 Secret endslate song that I want to see if anyone in the credits recognizes
Dude there taking spider man carnations from the comics and put them in the show anya is from an alterante universe were pete doesnt exist they are using the same suits from the comics
I look at spiderman maxim venom because venom 2 maximum carnage trailer didn't release. It's good as a idea and as a mini series, but not with marvel's spiderman.
Has anyone seen maximum venom its the newest one they finally showed mj which i though they forgot about They showed her in season 1 and then she didn't exist until this new season
Yeah I'm fine if it was just him and miles then it adds a dynamic between them. Though have Peter be a couple years older so that they can still have a sibling relationship.
@@noctisluciscaelum211 to be honest. I like the start of the show. From like 1-15. Like I enjoy that one episode where Peter met Iron Man in a science competition.
Yeah, Peter was special because the spider could bite anyone and it bit, it bit Peter, but now everyone that is a Peter's friend it's a spider person because reasons. Write cartoons is easy
No the problem is the show includes too many people with Spider-Man’s and then hardly includes them!!!! In sinister 6 where was everyone else!!!!!! Like the show includes other superhero’s but then barley uses them!! Also they literally have to always do my dad or adult family member is a villain!!!! It so freakin annoying it’s one of the many things I can rant on okay one more thing.Why does every cartoon now have to make a originally white character black the best one of the top of my head is April o Neil
It's baffling they can't just let spidy be around people with other powers than his own, aside from the villains. Like, y'know, nearly every other spiderman cartoon.
Wouldn’t be a problem if people stopped making Peter a child, its not like everyone freaked out on the PS4 since we weren’t told every step of his journey since he was in high school
there are some element of the Insomnica ps4 spider man game in this show I mean Miles voice actor in the show is the same voice actor for the his ps4 appersih even Yuri Lowental the voice actor of Peter Parker in the Insomncia games is the voice for Dr Curt Conner for this series and Peter parting with Yuri Watanabe in some potions of the 2rd season and Mister Negative make a mirror appering in this series.
As for Anna Maria, they were probably trying to adapt that portion of the Superior Spider-Man story where Doc (as Peter) falls in love with her, I’m not sure they realized that in the comic story Peter was like 25
Considering the absolute refusal for everyone to make peter older than 15 I’d assume they just thought he was always 15 since those 10 or so issues in ten comics existed
@@creed8712 yeah i don't get that, spider man's big boom into mass relevancy was during the 90's alongside the x-men with an animated series where he was college aged, for the raimi trilogy, he's out of high school at the end of the first act in the first movie,those were a huge boom for him as well,he always seems to gather more popularity in his university days , so its quite strange that there's been such a huge lack of it since raimi
@@Tannerj50 The comics do it too, the fact that he was supposed to be married and lost a child back in the 90s was forgotten then retconned and Parker Industries had the same thing. Their refusal to age him makes this weird relationship with Miles where he's a successor with no purpose and isn't even needed (since Ben Reilly and Kane are back)
You'd think Disney and their somehow-not-monopoly on the entertainment industry would leave them with a few extra pesos to put into the animation budget. Apparently not.
Marvel was ran by Ike Perlmutter. The dude is infamous for penny pinching. Like yelled at employees for throwing away paper clips when they can reuse them to save money. He was THAT bad
This seems to be less a Disney thing and just specifically Marvel. Disney has some of the best TV cartoons atm and they budget them well. Marvel seems to have internal issues that made their animation drag
“How am I supposed to learn at this school?!” ... she’s not wrong. From what I’ve seen Horizon High should have BEEN shut down. It’s one thing when shady companies like Oscorp are behind stuff as it’s done in secret, but when we have all of these PUBLIC incidents, I ask “how is this place still running?”
I personally like to explain it by saying OsCorp is a very large corporation and has plenty of money to shape their media story and bend the law a bit. Stark Industries also makes things like weapons of mass destruction, yet are depicted as good simply because Iron Man is the owner.
Or have every student sign a wavier saying the school isn't responsible for what happens to them. I mean I would get Oscorp or Alchemax because shady companies are gonna be shady but when one singular place develops WMDs almost on the daily, at what does the city step in and say "Get your house in order or we're pulling your funding." Then again, and I don't watch the show so maybe I'm just guessing here but I think the school is secretly being funded by Oscorp.
You know... After seeing how bad the timing is for these shows, I now understand why Hulk Agents of Smash had horrific editing. It was probably an attempt by the team to fix the timing.(It didn't work. But I now understand why it was a thing)
I'll always have a soft spot for Hulk and the agents of smash, because it had a shared cartoon universe with Ultimate Spiderman, Gaurdians Of the Galaxy, and Avengers Assemble.
I think the MCU had a play in this. A lot of their villans are guys with good tech, and then that influenced media falling under it like games, comics, and shows.
that poster artstlye for season 2 was remeber for me not in a good way that artsytle on the poster was good look colurful it there to mislead the viewers into it for what I say one of the worse 2d animations I ever seen.
@@joshhallam2618 and they say ulitmate spiderman was bland..at least it had character and besides spectacular spiderman,my favorite version of spiderman
Why do the avengers look awful in this animation.. ewe when they're taking a selfie.. captain America looked like a cosplayer than a professional avenger , Tony's armor looked lifeless.. hulk... looks ok.. black widow has a bald spot.. Stan lee approved of this?
which is the problem....sometimes cartoons need to be a little ballsy....you cant have a show about super powered individuals with no consequences interesting.. had they made otto even have something like a sickness even that wouldve worked but peter did need to "die" there...
Another thing that bugged me is why Peter never told his secret identity to Gwen and Anya. They have spider powers and they fight crime together, so there's no point to this.
I do find it odd that it took until near the end of the series for them to find out (there's an upcoming episode called "Spider-Man Unmasked", with one commercial showing at least Gwen's reaction). th-cam.com/video/B8kM8i9e1EA/w-d-xo.html
Ghost Ball it’s a masterful show, imo. I wouldn’t expect any less since it was creator by one of the folks behind classic Teen Titans. But what I certainly wasn’t expecting was how dark, violent, and heartbreaking Robot Monkey Team really was. It’s a hidden masterpiece for sure and has some of the best villains I’ve ever seen
@gamewizard I Bruh as much as I hate the show's artstyle and animation, calling it a tumblr artstyle doesn't even feel as accurate. It's just bland imo.
the series got better in season 3and 4,Ulimate spiderman not to confused with the comic it looesly base on which it recommed to read the cartoon is above avarege show.
@@anothergamer112 Yeah if they got a proper actor like Yuri Lowenthal or maybe Troy Baker (honestly I’m surprised he hasn’t played Spider-Man in anything yet) then it would’ve been awesome.
This show is so terrible that it makes Ultimate Spider-Man look like a masterpiece. Just recently bought both seasons of spectacular Spider-Man. I was a kid when I experienced it for the first time, now that I'm in my mid 20s, i wanted to see if I would understand it better and try to spot things I may have missed before. Let me tell you, that show can throw multiple story lines at you in the 13 episodes of a season, and still have it all makes sense as it's either rapping up an arc or setting up a new one. I find myself missing the spectacular spider man, a lot.
I do appreciate how bizzare ultimate got later on. Deadpool shows up multiple times, they did the spiderverse thing before the movie, and there was this one weird arc with the collector at the end. I'd rather have it be weird and not make sense than the new one which is so freakin boring.
@@youtubersworldwide3713 even though hes a kid in spectacular spiderman he looks acts and feels like a young adult maturing competent and learning spiderman.( who isnt an annoying tom holland whiney mimic) meanwhile the spiderman 2017 show well and truly fails on so so so many levels it's just insulting.
This is funny I recently got Disney + and it has Marvel’s Spider-Man as one of its shows. I’ve been watching it knowing that many people aren’t fond of it but I wanted to see for myself. I remember watching your first video about the show going over season one but I wanted to know people’s opinion on season 2. So I look it up and I see you upload a video on season 2 the same day I start watching. Funny how the world works.
Don’t watch season 3 actually don’t watch any cartoon marvel makes because they now have a venom obsessed thing going on which can be show by the guardians of the galaxy show and Spider-Man 2016 devoting a whole season to venom to the point where it didn’t make sense
Man I can’t lie it’s not one of my favorites. In all honesty it’s just bland compared to all the other Spider-Man cartoons. They also focus on venom and the other side characters more than Peter and when the do focus on him it doesn’t help since I dislike the personality he has in this show.
@@lazymorris5293 let’s not forget that y’all included black cat and took al her character away and gave her random superpower!!! Why are there so many spider people if half the time there not even there helping Peter!!!! What is up with peters hair it’s just oyyyy!!!!
Actually this version of Doc Ock was specified to be about a much younger version than usual and Anna Maria is a dwarf, so it’s a lot less uncomfortable than you think.
Due to the crappy designs she looks more like a child then a dwarf. You can't just draw dwarves with child proporations just because they're both short.
Hopefully by the time I have kids Marvel will have better people behind it and there’ll be a better Spider Man series either in production or available on Disney+ (or probably linear TV due to a streaming market crash)
I agree. Miles learned how to be Spider-man from a Peter Parker that spent years fighting crime. This is why I liked Into the Spider-verse's Miles Morales a lot better.
Umm I am not so sure about that I think If I remember corectly that is, he was kinda getting tired of corecting people and started making the same mistake I do remember he Corrects Kraven at some point calling him out how he doesn't know the correct terms even though he is a hunter or something. Overall I see flaws of the series but Enjoy it despite them also I think Peter and his friends are at least for ne more likeabld in this one. Especially couse I was always annoyed how shallow or just deeply sexualised his relations with girls were in other shows I dunno maybe that bothers me as a girl but still. I enjoyed every Spiderman out there to some extent as well as this one. Sorry for my eng😁
Isn’t the whole point of Electro of turning a freak show and hating it like I’m pretty sure he hated what he has become but this new character has her human self intact so why is she a villain
i think that first happened in spectacular spider man, ive been reading the 60s spiderman comics and he didnt have that problem and was just a crook with powers
Don’t forget about Scorpion. He’s just there... a lot of the villains in this show just kind of pop out of nowhere. I mean it makes sense that there’s established villains in a world with established heroes (like the assortment of Avengers baddies)... but even a majority of Spidey’s rogues exist before he does.
@@zombombhuntermcoc3342 I think he meant all the Marvel shows that Disney made you know Ultimate Spider-Man, Agent of Smash, Avenger Assemble. Their animation, pacing, continuity, characterization are... well I think you know where I'm going with this.
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 i personally enjoy them and i know everyone's entitled to their own opinion but i don't understand what he means by "referencing older movies" when i watched them i don't recall anything being taken completely from the movies.
@@Dwyer-nl9fz wouldn't make sense because in the comics peter dies in the ultimate universe and miles gains the mantle of "Ultimate Spider-Man". Having his pre title be "Ultimate" would be a cool homage to that universe.
I respect this comment as the superior spider man arc made me watch the entire series as a whole. I was pretty nit picky at a lot of the stuff and wanted to complain about it all but actually came out of the series slightly enjoying it. It's not the best series but it's not exactly the worst series out there, I've seen far worse series out there (not spider man related) but since the superior spiderman arc was the way it was and actually engaging for me I feel like they can do something like it again, making something that is actually enjoyable for everyone to watch.
@@Ahturos in India I watched that show through Disney XD. Many anime , good shows are broadcast through Marvel hq/ Disney XD in India. Like Pokemon, Beyblade new episodes and many anime
Hollow Naruto 63 I remember when people used to tear Ultimate Spider-Man a new one whenever it was mentioned, now it seems those people moved onto this series.
I think the problem with ultimate spiderman was the sometimes very childish humor and the bland villains. But I liked it, The first 2 or 3 seasons of this show where realy good, the giant character cast was very interesting (The Avengers,Wolverine,Cloak and Dagger,Deadpool...) Plus this show had some new story arcs that I never seen before like that in any other show,movie or comic. And the ending kinda hit hard,it showed that spidey is now way stronger, a true Avenger and can beat villains he had problems with earlier
@@HollowNaruto63 I found it to be a fun time but lack the impact of something like spectacular or the 90's cartoon. The earlier seasons were great but after that, they took some weird directions with chracters and then turned the whole show into some superhero academy thing which ruined the entire essence of what spiderman stood for.
@@HollowNaruto63 The problem was it strayed too far from the source material. Every successful adaptation of a comic book stays true to the franchise they were born from.
Ooh, I totally agree with your opinions! Thank you so much for posting this^ this was really interesting to hear it from your perspective. What baffles me most is that I as an artist myself follow so many of the storyboard artists and the way they animate in their personal work is always done beautifully. Even their spidy fanart they post time to time in the artstyle of the show is so well and beautifully done! And then in the show the artstyle looks disappointing and bland. What you told about a outhouse company animating the show explains so much now. I really suggest looking up the storyboard artists that worked on the show since they are very amazing animators! I only watched this series because they worked on this and it's indeed disappointing to see it exucuted by a lesser company ;00
You can tell nicktendo misses a lot of thing that are relevant to the Spider-Man lord in the video, such as not recognize the superior Spider-Man arc, or Anya and spider Gwen being long established characters, as well as a lot of Spider-Man villains just existing because they are just bad people who lucked out on tech or abilities
It's safe to say that while Disney holds the rights to Spider-Man Animation there will never be a Spider-Man show as good as Spectacular. All they care about is making cheap content for kids and selling toys. That's Disney.
5:41 dude, I’m in quarantine-I have a lot of free time. Also, typing that all women are actually very cool is as lame as getting mad at someone for saying something positive about a female cartoon character.
Honestly, I dont get the whole deal anyway... just having white people VOICE a black Cartoon Character is problematic, but totaly race and genderswapping a white character is somehow ok? I dont get it man...
@@Raoul9753 it shouldn't be a problem for someone to voice a character of different race, you can't even see the person who is voicing the character. The problem should be acting, since you can see the actor
@@Raoul9753 White people voicing a black cartoon character isn't intrinsically problematic, it's more about the fact that it's more likely for a white voice actor to voice a black character than a black voice actor to voice a white character. Also, most white comic book characters were just made white males because that was considered the "default" and them being white isn't an important part of their character like most black comic characters, who were nearly always made black as an conscious choice. Race swapping someone like Iron Fist, Captain America, or Batman, who have an actual reason to be white, is different than race swapping someone like Electro, Human Torch, or Deadshot, who don't change at all by changing their race.
I still insist that the best Spider-Man cartoon we got this decade was Netflix’s Stretch Armstrong. Thank god for Into the Spider-Verse and PS4 Spidey for getting SOME good Spidey content in general.
I feel electro's design is prolly my fav of this show. it's a really nice update. the only problem I have is the suit colors. like... it feels a bit too drab I guess? I think it'd be cool to keep this version of the character but maybe change the colors and *possibly* add the scar shaped like the old mask the character used to wear. could be a cool combo
Something that really bugs me is that for the show's third and final season (which had a serious lacking finale, making it feel like a regular episode in my opinion) is that it's titled "Maximum Venom". Funny thing is, the symbiotes only appear in four episodes out of the season. It was mostly dedicated to the regular everyday villains that appeared in the show. So I'm just questioning, why was Venom in the season's title if he barley appeared in the season itself?
I have just finnisht season three on Disney plus, and While im not a huge fan of the choices they made, i gotta ask what do you mean “it was mostly dedicated to his everyday villans” every ark in that season had 1 or more simbiotes related in a key point of the plot, ark 1 had Peter get a presumally safe Simbiote but suffering counsekvencess fore it when Venom returns and gets stronger because of that suit, ark 2 used some episodes on setting op the simbiote invasion and Then going thoug With it, ark 3 had Norman return to full power using a simbiote and mixing it With other things to make it stronger and finally ark 4 had it be about the seamingly head simbiotes in that Series try to destroy the Earth. Yes there were other villans there, but it alwas involved a simbiote, that was why they calt it Maximum Venon.
you know this is why I like DC and there animations, Disney really treats there marvel animations as a side thing while putting more effort into there movies before disney bought marvel things used to be interesting, I can't help but think about "Iron man armored adventures" to compare this show like yea they made tony stark young the others two Rody and Pepper did get there own suits but the show had better pacing and had some good build ups for 2 season, also a THEME SONG, thats another thing I never see nowadays with marvel animations but yea there out of touch
parkerboy795 DC Super Hero Girls has an episode where they feature the Teen Titans as rambunctious kids like in Teen Titans Go. The Teen Titans go fans were upset over the Tween Titans depiction and were treated like babies in the end.
This is honestly one of the most ugly and cheap looking modern cartoons I've seen in recent times. While it is definitely possible to make an animated show look stunning with a simple art style, this show does it all wrong. The background is so drab and meaningless, and actually kind of clashes with the characters. As for the characters they look so bare bones and lifeless. Nearly absent of any unique or diverse artstyle. Plain and flat. The designs for some of the characters look like they were made just to sell overpriced toys that will be left forgotten at the back of a shelf in Walmart. No love, no care. The outfits could be designed by an 8 year old and look better. At least if that were to happen they'd look interesting. The animation could be more fluid and dynamic but honestly not every show reaches a great standard so it's somewhat passable. I could talk about the dialogue, plot, and editing but that's what this dude's video is for, and he does a great job at that. But anyways, seeing the art quality of this show frustrates me. One of the greatest things about animation is that it can show reality in a more dynamic and colorful lens. You can show the impossible, portray details and emotions you might not catch in real life, and most importantly inspire the viewer. Plenty of recent shows have been top tier in nearly every aspect: Ducktales, Infinity Train, Amphibia, The Owl House, I recently watched Hilda and loved it, and I'm sure there's more that I can't think of at the moment. It's just that one day when I have kids I hope these big TV channels, or I guess streaming services, have quality cartoons for my kids to watch. Or for me to watch, cartoons can be for all ages. I'm still an adult youngin so still a couple of years away till that happens. I wrote this at 4 A.M. so sorry for any potential grammatical errors.
It's strange, hearing the summary, there's actually a lot of really cool ideas, but they are all wasted. If I were ever able to write a Spider-man comic series, I would love to flesh out some of the more interesting parts of this show.
Worst incarnations of Gwen and Miles. Miles is an annoying kid that won’t shut up. Gwen is a know it all that is reckless and got her powers back in a crazy dumb way.
So, am I, like... the ONLY person who really, really liked this show? It made a point to keep Peter active as a scientist, which is a major part of his character that is often glossed over in adaptations, it focused down on Spider-Man's lore and rogues gallery, as opposed to the last major show, which was all about as many crossovers as they could manage, while still being willing to put their personal spin on a lot of classic characters and stories. I'm not really surprised to see this video. Most shows based around popular franchises will have at least one or two people offering very vocal criticism, either to bait views or because of genuine complaints. I was, however, extremely taken aback by the broad negativity in the comments. I think the video was actually more forgiving, which is disconcerting since it outright calls it the worst modern Spider-Man cartoon. I don't know. Maybe I'm biased. Spider-Man was a huge influence on me growing up, and remains my favorite superhero by an incredibly wide margin, and this felt like a lot of care went into going back to the roots. It's just disappointing to think that something I enjoyed so much is seen so poorly by a majority of fans.
pretty old comment but I appreciate perspectives like yours. There's definitely some shows where I'm just puzzled if it has fans and then I find out it's massively popular lol and I always wonder on the flip side with shows that are largely disliked but still has fans and seeing their perspective is always unique. So thanks for sharing.
@@G004Morning Hey, thanks for the respectful response. I still think about this periodically, and it’s nice to get a reply that’s willing to validate my stance, even if you don’t agree with it.
Yeah I thought that part was odd. I am not a fan of this show so i don't care about the gender swap. Almost always though, i always disagree with the change of a characters race or gender. That does not mean i hate women though.
@@josesosa3337 Why do you disagree with changing a character's race or gender? They're pretty rarely an important part of the character (and usually characters where they're important aren't changed) and most of the times characters were made white males was because that was considered to be the "default". Electro isn't really a character like Iron Man, Captain America, Batman, etc. where changing his race and gender would fundamentally change the character.
@@ignisinfernal1843 a characters race and ethnicity is part of the character. The "look" is part of the character. Certian things in a character should not change and i think race, ethnicity , and gender are some of those things.
@@josesosa3337 And character's looks get changed all the time. Sometimes characters get their costumes completely redesigned. Sometimes they get different hair styles. Sometimes their hair color is changed. Race and gender (though changing gender honestly is usually a bigger change) aren't much more of a change than those. Electro is always in a full costume with a mask covering almost his entire face (which tbf, they lazily didn't even do), so his race is even less of a part of his look. Electro in particular has had so many interpretations, there is no concrete look for him. Sometimes he's a guy in a yellow and green suit with a lightning bolt star mask. Sometimes he's made of pure electricity. Sometimes he has no mask and instead has a lightning bolt star scar on his face.
Man, what'll it take for a decent looking Marvel cartoon to exist? I wish they were able to break out of the "MCU-lite" aesthetic and bring us something more stylized and cartoon-y.
BlythePennyBicycle21 it’s a step in the right direction, but I still don’t personally find it all that appealing. I’d love to see Marvel cartoons break out of the pseudo-anime, semi realistic look. Gimme something wacky and stylish over that any day.
@@thetoongrump9801 In that case, may I recommend checking out some of the Marvel shorts on TH-cam? There are some Ant Man shorts (which has 1960s comic book style aesthetics) and some Rocket And Groot shorts (with CGI animation from a French studio). There are also a good number of Marvel Superhero Adventures shorts animated by Atomic Cartoons (though those are aimed at the Disney Junior target demographic).
BlythePennyBicycle21 I actually have seen those Ant-Man shorts and I do like them a lot! The Rocket and Groot shorts look fun too. I guess my issue is that I wish that the main shows were as uniquely stylized Granted, I am excited for Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur!
@@thetoongrump9801 Well, you can't go wrong with Titmouse action shows. They worked on Megas XLR, Motorcity, Niko And The Sword Of Light, and Mao Mao Heroes Of Pure Heart. It also some storyboard artists and directors from Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Big Hero 6 The Series, and Glitch Techs, which all have fluid action. Also, Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur is animated by Disney Television Animation, being the first after Big Hero 6 The Series. It has the potential to look great.
I figured you might've brought up the change in showrunners. In season 1, Kevin Shinick was the showrunner. Kevin Burke & Chris Doc Wyatt were consulting producers in season 1 before being promoted to supervising producers (as in new showrunners) in season 2. They were working on this series the same time they were working on Stretch Armstrong And The Flex Fighters for Netflix (they created the show with Spectacular Spiderman co-creator Victor Cook).
I like the show it's ok but I cant deny that it has problems( Alot of problems) but to shorten it I'll cut it to 3 questions 1. Wtf is going on with the writing? Why are they trying to shove a whole bunch of stuff into a couple of episodes? 2. Wtf is up with the animation? Really I'm trying not to hate but this show just screams one word.... BUDGET! But at least it ain't something like teen titans go (anything is better than that dumpster fire) 3. Why doesn't peter work alone? Why does he always have to have his spider budies along or get help from the avengers? They been doing this shit since ultimate spiderman give it a rest already. One of the main things that made spiderman so appealing was that he did his job solo with no assistance, look at how he handles villains in spectacular spiderman and then compare it with this. In spectacular spiderman he took down villans by himself, he even took down the sinister 6 by himself twice. In ultimate or in this show he's either getting his ass beat or he gets help from his spider buddies or the avengers. Wtf happend? Anyway like I said I like the show but I cant deny that it's got problems.
I agree with you 100%, my problems are the fact that we got promo arts and poster but we were misled by those beautiful posters, when I saw Rhodes posters I couldn’t wait to see the show but when It aired it was nothing but disappointment
It depends. This isn't his first time voicing Spider-Man as he previously voiced him in the English dub of Marvel Disk Wars: The Avengers (which isn't available in America yet). He did voice him in a few video games later on, but I can't find clips of that. th-cam.com/video/hDnAvPpUzck/w-d-xo.html
I do like the idea of a Spider-Man series that has Peter and Miles around the same age. I wouldn’t mind that being attempted again if we do get another cartoon. Hell imagine a series where it took inspiration from Persona 5/Swat Kats and where Spidey forms a vigilante team with some friends that doesn’t play by the rules of the cops and Avengers. Maybe a line up could be Peter Parker as Spider-Man Miles Morales as Kid Arachnid Liz Allan as Screwball/Firestar Harry Osborn as Hobgoblin Bobby Drake as Iceman Gwen Stacy as Ghost-Spider Felecia Hardy as Black Cat
I won't mind seeing the Human torch and Iceman bering in a spider-man cartoon they both had so inporment in Spider-man comic like in the ulimate comic we see them team up at time esically the death of Spider-man event where they help Spider-man fight against this version of the sinster six
That would be very cool, but seeing how the cops, the army, the government, and authority in general are glorified in the U.S., I highly doubt it would ever be made. The closest thing to that would probably have to be those 2 or 3 comics in the Spider-Geddon storyline that focus on the Spider-Punk universe.
When I first saw this show I thought, “Oh my, this is the ugliest group of frames I have ever seen in my entire life.” But then the show grabbed my heart strings and now I’m obsessed with it. Watching the show makes me forget that it’s produced by a multi billion dollar company, both a good and a bad thing.
Used the very cheap way and watched the 3rd season basically on TH-cam since I was only interested cause they marketed Patrick Brown's promor art for it. I have to say the bits of exchanges between Moon Knight and Spider-Man feel pretty meaningful and the combat pacing with Moon Knight felt genuine from what you sort of showed a preview of after Ben's explanation.
They really need to bring back spectacular Spider-Man holy. The serious tone, depth-full characters, and amazing fights are what set it apart. Greatest spiderman adaptation.
I cant watch this show.. a complete downgrade from the story of spectacular spider-man and a downgrade of animation of ultimate spiderman. I get the feel thanks but It was unnecessary
I remember me and my family getting to see a sneak peak of the show about 4 months before the show was supposed to air. It was the scene where peter was trying to fight off the symbiote in his room before being captured by the vulture. What we saw was the final product, as it looked exactly the same as what aired later. The showrunner walked up to us and asked what we thought about it. My mom said it didn't look finished and she hoped they could complete it in time. The showrunner went silent for a few seconds, thanked us for the feedback, and walked away. That's when we knew there was no hope for the show.
@@NICKtendoReviews for some more information, it was at the D23 convention. There was a small panel at 1:00pm that had the voice cast of the guardians of the galaxy cartoon along with the showrunner. About 40 people including us were in the audience. We got to hear stories, learn that the third season of the gaurdians cartoon would tie into the new ride across the street in disneyland, and saw the unfinished scene. The best part was the open discussion section. There were some real marvel super fans that knew more about the property than anyone on stage. I actually saw the showrunner taking notes. My favorite question was someone said that other people said that the new ride ruined the integrity of california adventure and one of the panelists said "what integrity?" We all had a chuckle on that one.
Why do you need to genderbend and racebend Electro? Make her a new character. I would give her the name Lightning Bird. She would have electric powers with the additional ability into a bird of pure electricity. Her inspirations are of Electro and the lightning bird from African folklore.
I agree. The electro that is shown in Spider-man 2017 is Francine Frye which is different from the electro we all know who is known to be Max Dillon. The writers failed to differentiate between these two electros. If I were the writer I would have either stuck to Max Dillon's electro or make Francine Frye's Electro into a completely different villain instead.
I used to love the series until they shoved Harry in the back who had been an important main character the entire 1st season, I'm so mad about it you won't Belive it
Alright man I see your side of the argument, but if they want to have more female or black characters, they should make more of them, not change old characters. All it shows me is that they want to diversify their show, but they don't want to put real effort into it
There is actually a Sandgirl (who showed up in Sandman's debut episode) and a female Electro in the comics, but they were changed up in the show (such as how they're both closer to Peter's age rather than younger and older respectively, and with Sandgirl being more smug and Electro being made black) . marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Francine_Frye_(Earth-616) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandman_(Marvel_Comics)
No offence to Robbie Daymond, but he cannot be Spider-Man. He fits more of a Doc Ock to me. I guess that’s because of Akechi. Hell, superior Spider-Man is just Akechi.
@@NICKtendoReviews This show didn't tackle the Spider Verse, but Ultimate Spiderman did it twice. There was a 4 part Spider Verse story in 2015 during season 3 and another 4 part story in 2016 during season 4.
When DC needed a female super villain, they created Harley Quinn, when they needed to introduce people to a black character, they gave us Static.... there are plenty of characters that are already female and black that are being forgotten... use those... the MCU is built off of characters we didn't know well...
1. DC didn't create Static, and even then, he's almost never been used outside of a few comic runs and a short-lived, underrated cartoon (and Young Justice, of course). 2. The MCU used lesser-known characters because they had no choice. If they had access to their more popular characters, they would've gotten the spotlight. 3. Completely original characters won't get as much attention for being non-white or female as genderswapping or raceswapping characters, and at the end of the day, it's all about attention. Comics are a dying industry and have been dominated by white males for decades, so Marvel and DC figure they can improve sales by getting more women and non-whites into comics. 4. Most white male characters were made white males because that was considered the "default" and their race or gender has no impact on their character, and changing their gender or race doesn't change anything about the spirit of that character. Electro isn't a character who has a justifiable reason for why his race or gender shouldn't be changed like Black Panther, Iron Man, Captain America, Luke Cage, or Iron Fist.
@@ignisinfernal1843 I'm not sure why more people don't find it insulting for marvel to essentially say that a non white character won't sell unless they piggyback off of a white character's established name.
@@soapbiter36577 That's not really a Marvel thing. That's a general issue with comics and comic adaptations. The problem is, that's sadly how it works a lot of times. Also, it's kinda insulting that you consider that "piggybacking". It's a change in the mantle. Would you also consider Dick Grayson becoming Batman, Barry Allen or Wally West becoming the Flash, Hal Jordan becoming Green Lantern, or Bucky Barnes becoming Captain America the same way? This is done all the time and it generally works, with the successor sometimes becoming more popular, or at least establishing a cult following rivaling their predecessor. Most people prefer the Barry Allen Flash to Jay Garrick, a lot of people prefer Wally West over Barry Allen. Most people prefer Hal Jordan over Alan Scott. A good nonwhite example is John Stewart. He has become very popular and a lot of people grew up with him and prefer him as Green Lantern the same way someone might've grown up with Wally West or might have gotten into comics while Sam Wilson was Captain America or when Riri Williams was introduced.
@@ignisinfernal1843 No. I don't consider it insulting for dick grayson to take the batman mantle because of his long history with bruce. The insulting part comes not from someone taking a role of another character but us being fed "representation" in that form. A big example that comes to mind is new 52 wally west, he quite literally is just a black character with a white character's name and I hated it. Considering how huge black panther became after getting a movie I don't really believe in the idea that black characters won't sell. So I would much rather see more of that and less of recoloring the white characters.
@@soapbiter36577 Yet Sam Wilson becoming Captain America was still viciously criticized. I would rather see more of new characters, as well, but I have no problem with changing the race of white characters. There are already far more white characters than nonwhite because for decades, white characters have been seen as the "standard". The majority of the time, characters were made white just because (with a few exceptions, like Iron Fist, for example) and black characters were made specifically because they wanted to make a black character. I have absolutely no problem with it unless the character has a reason to be white and as long as it's written well. New 52 Wally West is a completely different character than the white Wally West and isn't just a "recoloring". They have the same name because the black version was meant to fill in the same role of Barry Allen's sidekick. Aside from that, they're completely different. Also, in the case of Black Panther, that movie was partially also successful because it featured a very well-established character who has been around for almost 60 years, had the backing of the most successful film franchise in history, and he had been introduced in and played a large role in an earlier film. I'm not arguing that original black characters won't sell, just that it's easier to do a race-swap or create a black successor for an older character, especially in a dying industry like comics, where new characters generally are hard to make successful.
5:41 I did read what you wrote there, but I have to politely disagree. Changing who a character is can be a big betrayal to the fans who know how that character should be. I know that calling this series an AU does help, but I’m more concerned over why they keep doing this same change to various media, and change guys to girls so often. Spider-Man has plenty of female villains in the comics, right? Even if they’re less well-known, they’d be a better choice to maintain the consistency of character portrayals across mediums and series of Spider-Man media, while making big changes like this is more like ‘What if so and so got Electro’s powers instead of Electro?’ The more and more one changes the character, the less and less the character they’ve changed is the character they started out with. I’d just like them to clarify that it’s just they’re own character for this show, and not something they plan on pushing forward everywhere else.
Well, to be fair that's kinda Marvel's thing in general. Over the years we had dozens of different interpretations for pretty much all notable characters, electro included, I don't see why it should become a problem now.
I hate to see the same style of animation in the current Marvel series, it seems that they do not put effort and also it is not good that all the series are connected to each other, it is somewhat confusing and the chronology does not make sense.
I'm still loving The spectacular spiderman and the ultimate spiderman show, this I didn't appreciate that much the designs were too poor. It also make sense why DC animation is better
1:15 MY MAN KNOWS. Damn I thought I was the ONLY one who remembered this show, started to think I was a fever dream of mine. Review when!?!? Also it's a clrearly a Getter copy, not an Eva one duh.
man I recognized the tune of sky chase from ultimate Spider-Man at the 5 min mark and you using the tone from the bank mission of the first game for the ps1 that's a nostalgia kick to the head
@@jamesporter571 It's safe to say about 99% of the time swapping character's gender and race never works. The only 1% that works was Nick Fury, but the rest were garbage pandering trash.
Since I’m getting this comment a lot, when I wrote the video, I was aware that Anya’s costume as Spider-Girl is based on one of the character’s original designs. But my issue is that they chose to use an iteration of the outfit that looked just like Venom’s and gave no explanation for it within the show itself. Just wanted to clear that up!
As always, here are the Music Credits:
0:10 Track 12 - Spider-Man (Sega CD)
2:26 Spidey Training - Ultimate Spider-Man Game
5:38 Get to the Bank! - Spider-Man (PS1)
5:42 Hairy Legs - Spider-Man 2 Game
8:44 Digital Circuit - Shadow The Hedgehog
11:00 Free Roam 3 - Ultimate Spider-Man Game
16:14 Spidey Skychase - Ultimate Spider-Man Game
18:07 Secret endslate song that I want to see if anyone in the credits recognizes
Dude there taking spider man carnations from the comics and put them in the show anya is from an alterante universe were pete doesnt exist they are using the same suits from the comics
I look at spiderman maxim venom because venom 2 maximum carnage trailer didn't release. It's good as a idea and as a mini series, but not with marvel's spiderman.
Has anyone seen maximum venom its the newest one they finally showed mj which i though they forgot about
They showed her in season 1 and then she didn't exist until this new season
I hate how they made dr strange look in this show it looked lazy
@@jakeolan1958 I did, it's not all that.
I hate that everyone around Peter is a scientist and also too much people with spider powers... it takes away Peter's spotlight
Yeah I'm fine if it was just him and miles then it adds a dynamic between them. Though have Peter be a couple years older so that they can still have a sibling relationship.
@@noctisluciscaelum211 to be honest. I like the start of the show. From like 1-15. Like I enjoy that one episode where Peter met Iron Man in a science competition.
Yeah, Peter was special because the spider could bite anyone and it bit, it bit Peter, but now everyone that is a Peter's friend it's a spider person because reasons. Write cartoons is easy
No the problem is the show includes too many people with Spider-Man’s and then hardly includes them!!!! In sinister 6 where was everyone else!!!!!! Like the show includes other superhero’s but then barley uses them!! Also they literally have to always do my dad or adult family member is a villain!!!! It so freakin annoying it’s one of the many things I can rant on okay one more thing.Why does every cartoon now have to make a originally white character black the best one of the top of my head is April o Neil
It's baffling they can't just let spidy be around people with other powers than his own, aside from the villains. Like, y'know, nearly every other spiderman cartoon.
Love that this series wants to compress like 50 years of Spider-Man history into a season or two. Like, pacing, PLEASE.
Wouldn’t be a problem if people stopped making Peter a child, its not like everyone freaked out on the PS4 since we weren’t told every step of his journey since he was in high school
I actually like this series but you’re right, they go through story arcs so quickly. Superior Spider-Man was like what 6 episodes?
They went all Shamalyandingdong on it.
@@djpegao please do not mention that cursed name
@@creed8712 But the PS4 game was for the fans. The series are for kid who have never seen spider man. So it's a way to get a bigger audience.
I remember being frustrated when they hired Josh Keaton but not as Spider-Man.
Looking back, he really dodged a bullet.
Unfortunately he will be Ant-Man from now on
there are some element of the Insomnica ps4 spider man game in this show I mean Miles voice actor in the show is the same voice actor for the his ps4 appersih even Yuri Lowental the voice actor of Peter Parker in the Insomncia games is the voice for Dr Curt Conner for this series and Peter parting with Yuri Watanabe in some potions of the 2rd season and Mister Negative make a mirror appering in this series.
Josh Keaton could've been great
Best Spider-Man voice
Star Platinum Him and Yuri are amazing to me.
Why are all of Spider-Man's villains kids? After a while, it just starts to feel like Gotham.
Except Gotham was better
@@internetgoat4831 It really was.
Non of Gotham’s villains were kids. Except Ivy and Firefly I guess.
It's starting to feel like that batman show that was never made when all of batmans enemies are all kids
@@-leo10finity-74You mean Gotham High? Of course, I'm not referring to the graphic novel that came out a couple of months ago.
As for Anna Maria, they were probably trying to adapt that portion of the Superior Spider-Man story where Doc (as Peter) falls in love with her, I’m not sure they realized that in the comic story Peter was like 25
Considering the absolute refusal for everyone to make peter older than 15 I’d assume they just thought he was always 15 since those 10 or so issues in ten comics existed
@@creed8712 yeah i don't get that, spider man's big boom into mass relevancy was during the 90's alongside the x-men with an animated series where he was college aged, for the raimi trilogy, he's out of high school at the end of the first act in the first movie,those were a huge boom for him as well,he always seems to gather more popularity in his university days , so its quite strange that there's been such a huge lack of it since raimi
@@Tannerj50 The comics do it too, the fact that he was supposed to be married and lost a child back in the 90s was forgotten then retconned and Parker Industries had the same thing. Their refusal to age him makes this weird relationship with Miles where he's a successor with no purpose and isn't even needed (since Ben Reilly and Kane are back)
You'd think Disney and their somehow-not-monopoly on the entertainment industry would leave them with a few extra pesos to put into the animation budget.
Apparently not.
Marvel was ran by Ike Perlmutter. The dude is infamous for penny pinching.
Like yelled at employees for throwing away paper clips when they can reuse them to save money.
He was THAT bad
This seems to be less a Disney thing and just specifically Marvel. Disney has some of the best TV cartoons atm and they budget them well. Marvel seems to have internal issues that made their animation drag
@@invaderpez12 Big Hero 6 The Series has some pretty fluid action. Then again, it has the creators of Kim Possible onboard.
That show gave Stan Lee a send off ☺️
Nah they care mostly about it's movies rather than making it's look cool
“How am I supposed to learn at this school?!” ... she’s not wrong. From what I’ve seen Horizon High should have BEEN shut down. It’s one thing when shady companies like Oscorp are behind stuff as it’s done in secret, but when we have all of these PUBLIC incidents, I ask “how is this place still running?”
Also, the fact that they seem to create WMDs and weapons that vastly surpass the military daily and no one seems to care
It's-a me Megatron. When Harry’s project was revealed to be BOMBS in an early episode and it was ignored I knew things were going to be stupid.
I personally like to explain it by saying OsCorp is a very large corporation and has plenty of money to shape their media story and bend the law a bit.
Stark Industries also makes things like weapons of mass destruction, yet are depicted as good simply because Iron Man is the owner.
Don't worry. In season 3 there is still horizon high but the show doesn't completely revolve around that single place anymore
Or have every student sign a wavier saying the school isn't responsible for what happens to them.
I mean I would get Oscorp or Alchemax because shady companies are gonna be shady but when one singular place develops WMDs almost on the daily, at what does the city step in and say "Get your house in order or we're pulling your funding."
Then again, and I don't watch the show so maybe I'm just guessing here but I think the school is secretly being funded by Oscorp.
You know... After seeing how bad the timing is for these shows, I now understand why Hulk Agents of Smash had horrific editing.
It was probably an attempt by the team to fix the timing.(It didn't work. But I now understand why it was a thing)
Yeah! That checks out.
I'll always have a soft spot for Hulk and the agents of smash, because it had a shared cartoon universe with Ultimate Spiderman, Gaurdians Of the Galaxy, and Avengers Assemble.
@@henrycoffey1207 I remember that show fondly but if you ask me to recount any details I'd be unable to really pin any...
@@henrycoffey1207 Guardians of the Galaxy Series from 2015 is in the same universe as this (2017 Spider-Man) Series.
The Villain Design is so boring, most of them are generic dudes with armor
except Rhino who ironically is supposed to be a dude in armor but isn't
@@jamesporter571 depends on the version but you right
I think the MCU had a play in this. A lot of their villans are guys with good tech, and then that influenced media falling under it like games, comics, and shows.
The Hero Paul yeah
They really start to blend together
I hate how the artwork and posters are so good and the actual show is so bland
Amen
that poster artstlye for season 2 was remeber for me not in a good way that artsytle on the poster was good look colurful it there to mislead the viewers into it for what I say one of the worse 2d animations I ever seen.
Heh
@@joshhallam2618 and they say ulitmate spiderman was bland..at least it had character and besides spectacular spiderman,my favorite version of spiderman
Same
Why do the avengers look awful in this animation.. ewe when they're taking a selfie.. captain America looked like a cosplayer than a professional avenger , Tony's armor looked lifeless.. hulk... looks ok.. black widow has a bald spot.. Stan lee approved of this?
EMH is still the superior series and the standard to beat
@@djpegao amen
@@djpegao true that but I do like avengers assemble and Ultron revolution, secret wars is just terrible
@@BlackHeartRise Ultron comes out of nowhere
@@Elvusmiw u didn't like Ultron
the Superior arc was taken from the comics. The difference is Peter doesn't die
Well Peter does come back.
which is the problem....sometimes cartoons need to be a little ballsy....you cant have a show about super powered individuals with no consequences interesting.. had they made otto even have something like a sickness even that wouldve worked but peter did need to "die" there...
Otto had cancer or some other deadly disease which was why he swapped bodies with Peter. That's why Peter ended up dying, leaving Otto as Spider-Man
Louise Barbosa I know I’ve read comic and another chunk of Dan Slotts run
@@ncisfan1002 when I was younger. I was to scared and sad to Countinue on reading the comic
Another thing that bugged me is why Peter never told his secret identity to Gwen and Anya. They have spider powers and they fight crime together, so there's no point to this.
I do find it odd that it took until near the end of the series for them to find out (there's an upcoming episode called "Spider-Man Unmasked", with one commercial showing at least Gwen's reaction).
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Bro you realize that they don’t have to copy the source exactly right
@@typea5426 Bro, you do realize that no one was talking about the source right?
@@anthonynguyen9766 so why tf is it a problem
@Slato because the guy above me was trying to antagonize others even tho no one even talked about the source
Just bring Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes back Disney. DAMN
those was not made by disney but by sony animation
Michael Santamaria EMH was Disney
The Spectacular Spider-Man is lost forever 😔
True Damage Unfortunately
I wish mate.
The most important revelation from this video is learning that Robot Monkey Team is on Disney+
Ghost Ball it’s a masterful show, imo. I wouldn’t expect any less since it was creator by one of the folks behind classic Teen Titans. But what I certainly wasn’t expecting was how dark, violent, and heartbreaking Robot Monkey Team really was. It’s a hidden masterpiece for sure and has some of the best villains I’ve ever seen
I'm just happy SOMEONE remembers the show. Antari's death was so tragic.
@@auralunaprettycure ive been curious to watch it after hearing about ciro's work with teen titans and the 2012 tmnt series.
Cropped to 4:3 tho. Just like the Jetix Airings
“This party’s a board game”
10/10 writing
Life's a board game
Menundrum you’re technically not wrong
Mario Party.
@@amongg5973 *PTSD kicks in*
I think he meant Bored game idk that’s what I thought am probably wrong
I'm sorry but the caracter designs and the world just looks so ugly 💀
Peter Parker is now Ben 10
Possibly could use some shadow castings.
@gamewizard I
Bruh as much as I hate the show's artstyle and animation, calling it a tumblr artstyle doesn't even feel as accurate. It's just bland imo.
@gamewizard I
Nah it's ok, it's personally a pet peeve of mine so you don't have to take it to heart.
@ryder100 Don't dig any deeper
Out of all the Marvel cartoons since 2012, Ultimate Spider-Man has definitely got the better and more fluid animation
the series got better in season 3and 4,Ulimate spiderman not to confused with the comic it looesly base on which it recommed to read the cartoon is above avarege show.
In terms of plot and voice acting, it was terrible and Drake Bell was the worse Spiderman.
I HATE ULTIMATE SPIDERMAN I LOVE THE ORIGIN STORY OF SPIDERMAN NOT SHIEL
@@fulcrum6760 its one of those few times where it's actually the voice actors fault and not the material.
Drake Bell is a terrible voice actor.
@@anothergamer112 Yeah if they got a proper actor like Yuri Lowenthal or maybe Troy Baker (honestly I’m surprised he hasn’t played Spider-Man in anything yet) then it would’ve been awesome.
This show is so terrible that it makes Ultimate Spider-Man look like a masterpiece. Just recently bought both seasons of spectacular Spider-Man. I was a kid when I experienced it for the first time, now that I'm in my mid 20s, i wanted to see if I would understand it better and try to spot things I may have missed before. Let me tell you, that show can throw multiple story lines at you in the 13 episodes of a season, and still have it all makes sense as it's either rapping up an arc or setting up a new one. I find myself missing the spectacular spider man, a lot.
I like the ultimate Spider-Man more than this newer one
We all do☹️
Ultimate Spiderman's animation wasn't too bad
Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't that great starting out, but once they got serious. The show turned really good
I do appreciate how bizzare ultimate got later on. Deadpool shows up multiple times, they did the spiderverse thing before the movie, and there was this one weird arc with the collector at the end. I'd rather have it be weird and not make sense than the new one which is so freakin boring.
The Spectacular Spider-Man was the best because I like it when Spidey works alone.
Also he is a kid
I hate big , older Peter
They are not good
You Tubers World Wide Parker is only a kid like 2 times out of ten
@@everyonesfavorite7560 I am talking about spectacular Spider-Man.
Best adaptation ever
@@youtubersworldwide3713 even though hes a kid in spectacular spiderman he looks acts and feels like a young adult maturing competent and learning spiderman.( who isnt an annoying tom holland whiney mimic) meanwhile the spiderman 2017 show well and truly fails on so so so many levels it's just insulting.
Wait Bernie sanders doesn't come back.. awwh man.
This is funny I recently got Disney + and it has Marvel’s Spider-Man as one of its shows. I’ve been watching it knowing that many people aren’t fond of it but I wanted to see for myself. I remember watching your first video about the show going over season one but I wanted to know people’s opinion on season 2. So I look it up and I see you upload a video on season 2 the same day I start watching. Funny how the world works.
Don’t watch season 3 actually don’t watch any cartoon marvel makes because they now have a venom obsessed thing going on which can be show by the guardians of the galaxy show and Spider-Man 2016 devoting a whole season to venom to the point where it didn’t make sense
Man I can’t lie it’s not one of my favorites. In all honesty it’s just bland compared to all the other Spider-Man cartoons. They also focus on venom and the other side characters more than Peter and when the do focus on him it doesn’t help since I dislike the personality he has in this show.
@@lazymorris5293 let’s not forget that y’all included black cat and took al her character away and gave her random superpower!!! Why are there so many spider people if half the time there not even there helping Peter!!!! What is up with peters hair it’s just oyyyy!!!!
Actually this version of Doc Ock was specified to be about a much younger version than usual and Anna Maria is a dwarf, so it’s a lot less uncomfortable than you think.
I'm curious, how old is Anna Maria in this scene?
Karl Khai I cant say for sure due to the differences in continuity between this show and the comics. But we know she’s staff, not student.
Due to the crappy designs she looks more like a child then a dwarf. You can't just draw dwarves with child proporations just because they're both short.
@@adammyers7383 Maybe that's the weird part. Otto in Peter's body falling in love with someone older then he is.
@@matane2465 hmm no not really I have a dwarf friend and it's not inacurate at least to her
PLEASE BRING BACK SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN I CAN'T TAKE THIS MADNESS!
Hopefully by the time I have kids Marvel will have better people behind it and there’ll be a better Spider Man series either in production or available on Disney+ (or probably linear TV due to a streaming market crash)
IM HAPPY ULTIMATE SPIDERMAN IS GONE FOREVER
If you think about it, all the best comic book shows are ones who don’t do crossovers
@@faris9720 you know if drake bell didnt comit crimes we wouldve had like 4 more seasons of ultimate
It’s probably just me but I don’t like how miles and Peter are the same age.
Same it’s stupid
I agree. Miles learned how to be Spider-man from a Peter Parker that spent years fighting crime. This is why I liked Into the Spider-verse's Miles Morales a lot better.
Ajeet Kotturu That’s the only version of miles I like
@@Dwyer-nl9fz Spider-Man PS4?
@@ignisinfernal1843 They aren’t the same age in the game, Peter is 7 years older than Miles, with him being 24 and Miles being 17.
The biggest mistake they made is that Peter is calling himself a bug...
A BUG!!!!!
SPIDERS ARN’T BUGS THERE ARACHNIDS!!!
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE
@Black Ninja you never watched a single spiderman if you haven't heard this one
@Black Ninja A much better reply
Umm I am not so sure about that I think If I remember corectly that is, he was kinda getting tired of corecting people and started making the same mistake I do remember he Corrects Kraven at some point calling him out how he doesn't know the correct terms even though he is a hunter or something. Overall I see flaws of the series but Enjoy it despite them also I think Peter and his friends are at least for ne more likeabld in this one. Especially couse I was always annoyed how shallow or just deeply sexualised his relations with girls were in other shows I dunno maybe that bothers me as a girl but still. I enjoyed every Spiderman out there to some extent as well as this one. Sorry for my eng😁
I feel uncultured for not knowing this fml.
Isn’t the whole point of Electro of turning a freak show and hating it like I’m pretty sure he hated what he has become but this new character has her human self intact so why is she a villain
I don't get it myself either.
This show does that sorta thing with a lot of the villains, taking what was a tragic part of them and rendering it moot
i think that first happened in spectacular spider man, ive been reading the 60s spiderman comics and he didnt have that problem and was just a crook with powers
@@rossman8919 I mean yeah, in general I miss the part where Spidey's villains tend to be just people deep down inside.
Don’t forget about Scorpion. He’s just there... a lot of the villains in this show just kind of pop out of nowhere. I mean it makes sense that there’s established villains in a world with established heroes (like the assortment of Avengers baddies)... but even a majority of Spidey’s rogues exist before he does.
The thing with the Spider Man cartoons is that they don try anything new. Recycling the same formula and referencing older movies.
did you even watch the 90s show or spectacular spider-man?
@@zombombhuntermcoc3342 I think he meant all the Marvel shows that Disney made you know Ultimate Spider-Man, Agent of Smash, Avenger Assemble. Their animation, pacing, continuity, characterization are... well I think you know where I'm going with this.
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 i personally enjoy them and i know everyone's entitled to their own opinion but i don't understand what he means by "referencing older movies" when i watched them i don't recall anything being taken completely from the movies.
@@zombombhuntermcoc3342 yes, those were my childhood.
@Lego Man of Action's Avengers
ngl “Spy-D” and “Kid Arachnid” are on par with the “with great ability comes accountability” line from Spiderverse and the ensuing dialogue.
SamuraiFighterChick That's funny, I always called him Spiderboy.
They should call him Arachkid
Call miles Ultimate Spider-Man for now and Peter the Spectacular or Amazing Spider-Man.
Rivers no peter is Ultimate. They should just give him a different name all together
@@Dwyer-nl9fz wouldn't make sense because in the comics peter dies in the ultimate universe and miles gains the mantle of "Ultimate Spider-Man". Having his pre title be "Ultimate" would be a cool homage to that universe.
Honestly the doc ock redemption is actually really good
Edit: I mean the Superior Spider-Man arc
Yep my favorite arc of this series and probably from the comics too
Thomas gg Same here
Better than comics arc
When doc ock said is this not what a best friend would do I think someone next to me was chopping onions
I respect this comment as the superior spider man arc made me watch the entire series as a whole. I was pretty nit picky at a lot of the stuff and wanted to complain about it all but actually came out of the series slightly enjoying it. It's not the best series but it's not exactly the worst series out there, I've seen far worse series out there (not spider man related) but since the superior spiderman arc was the way it was and actually engaging for me I feel like they can do something like it again, making something that is actually enjoyable for everyone to watch.
Nah, it really hasn't, some minor improvements here and there, but it still hasn't really gotten me engaged to watch the series as a whole.
@Joseph TobinAgree. it's because it not trying to jam 4 dan slott story arc into one season and it simply a venom focus story
@nat flames To each their own. You can like it, that's ok, but for me I don't think I'm missing much.
SUPER ROBOT MONKEY TEAM IS ON DISNEY+?????
YUP. All 52 episodes
HYPERFORCE, GO!!!!!!
I miss Foxkids/Jetix. Disney own all those shows. Gives us them!
@@Ahturos in India
I watched that show through Disney XD.
Many anime , good shows are broadcast through Marvel hq/ Disney XD in India. Like Pokemon, Beyblade new episodes and many anime
“Worst Spider-Man show ever”
Me, a causal spider fan: Spider-man, Spider-Man, does whatever a spider can!
*happily dances because Spider-Man*
*Spider-Man* is *Spider-Man!*
When ultimate spiderman looks like a masterpiece thank you marvels spidey
Hollow Naruto 63
I remember when people used to tear Ultimate Spider-Man a new one whenever it was mentioned, now it seems those people moved onto this series.
@@beastmaster0934 what did ult spidey do to em i see nothing too wrong with it
I think the problem with ultimate spiderman was the sometimes very childish humor and the bland villains. But I liked it, The first 2 or 3 seasons of this show where realy good, the giant character cast was very interesting (The Avengers,Wolverine,Cloak and Dagger,Deadpool...) Plus this show had some new story arcs that I never seen before like that in any other show,movie or comic. And the ending kinda hit hard,it showed that spidey is now way stronger, a true Avenger and can beat villains he had problems with earlier
@@HollowNaruto63 I found it to be a fun time but lack the impact of something like spectacular or the 90's cartoon. The earlier seasons were great but after that, they took some weird directions with chracters and then turned the whole show into some superhero academy thing which ruined the entire essence of what spiderman stood for.
@@HollowNaruto63 The problem was it strayed too far from the source material. Every successful adaptation of a comic book stays true to the franchise they were born from.
Just a Jimmy Neutron without Jimmy's dad.
2/10
_the virgin marvel spider-man_ Vs *THE CHAD IRON MAN ARMORED ADVENTURES*
Vs *THE GOD SPIDER-MAN INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE*
@@chriswentz5197 COOL RESPONSE, BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SHOW, NOT MOVIES
Ooh, I totally agree with your opinions! Thank you so much for posting this^ this was really interesting to hear it from your perspective. What baffles me most is that I as an artist myself follow so many of the storyboard artists and the way they animate in their personal work is always done beautifully. Even their spidy fanart they post time to time in the artstyle of the show is so well and beautifully done! And then in the show the artstyle looks disappointing and bland. What you told about a outhouse company animating the show explains so much now. I really suggest looking up the storyboard artists that worked on the show since they are very amazing animators! I only watched this series because they worked on this and it's indeed disappointing to see it exucuted by a lesser company ;00
The Anya costume is more in line with the comics, though I wish they had the first outfit to appear first before the black and white one.
You can tell nicktendo misses a lot of thing that are relevant to the Spider-Man lord in the video, such as not recognize the superior Spider-Man arc, or Anya and spider Gwen being long established characters, as well as a lot of Spider-Man villains just existing because they are just bad people who lucked out on tech or abilities
It's safe to say that while Disney holds the rights to Spider-Man Animation there will never be a Spider-Man show as good as Spectacular.
All they care about is making cheap content for kids and selling toys. That's Disney.
1:03 Wait does that mean Nicktendo lives in a *S O C I E T Y*
Z-O-M-B-I-E-S
@@DigiRangerScott someone else noticed
Nickelodeon + Nintendo = Nicktendo
5:41 dude, I’m in quarantine-I have a lot of free time. Also, typing that all women are actually very cool is as lame as getting mad at someone for saying something positive about a female cartoon character.
Ikr lol
Honestly, I dont get the whole deal anyway... just having white people VOICE a black Cartoon Character is problematic, but totaly race and genderswapping a white character is somehow ok? I dont get it man...
@@Raoul9753 it shouldn't be a problem for someone to voice a character of different race, you can't even see the person who is voicing the character. The problem should be acting, since you can see the actor
@@Raoul9753 White people voicing a black cartoon character isn't intrinsically problematic, it's more about the fact that it's more likely for a white voice actor to voice a black character than a black voice actor to voice a white character. Also, most white comic book characters were just made white males because that was considered the "default" and them being white isn't an important part of their character like most black comic characters, who were nearly always made black as an conscious choice. Race swapping someone like Iron Fist, Captain America, or Batman, who have an actual reason to be white, is different than race swapping someone like Electro, Human Torch, or Deadshot, who don't change at all by changing their race.
Learn something then. Maybe catch a love for math, become finically literate, pick up a skill, etc. trust me. Way better than this shit show
I still insist that the best Spider-Man cartoon we got this decade was Netflix’s Stretch Armstrong. Thank god for Into the Spider-Verse and PS4 Spidey for getting SOME good Spidey content in general.
Ps4 spiderman is great can't wait for miles morales spider man.
Stretch Armstrong is great
Stretch Armstrong was Great ngl,i liked that Troll like character
The show still on? I forget it still airing. Whatever. I'm going back to watch Spider-Man TAS and Spectacular Spider-Man.
7:41 At least Chameleon has a voice in this series. The 90's cartoon didn't even bother.
That was the point to leave him mysterious. He only spook ones with his normal voice.
'08 has the voice too
@@libra_v3 He was probably the coolest incarnation imo.
I-iggy get out off here vanilla ice is still alive
@@Ahturos '08 has voice
Spider-Man? Ah yes, it's always pizza time in NYC
PIZZA?, Kawabunga
The whole 'Ock transfers his mind into a machine' isn't as convoluted as you make it sound.
I feel electro's design is prolly my fav of this show. it's a really nice update. the only problem I have is the suit colors. like... it feels a bit too drab I guess? I think it'd be cool to keep this version of the character but maybe change the colors and *possibly* add the scar shaped like the old mask the character used to wear. could be a cool combo
This is your finest thumbnail, Nick
hahaha the boy angry head fall down
Something that really bugs me is that for the show's third and final season (which had a serious lacking finale, making it feel like a regular episode in my opinion) is that it's titled "Maximum Venom". Funny thing is, the symbiotes only appear in four episodes out of the season. It was mostly dedicated to the regular everyday villains that appeared in the show. So I'm just questioning, why was Venom in the season's title if he barley appeared in the season itself?
I have just finnisht season three on Disney plus, and While im not a huge fan of the choices they made, i gotta ask what do you mean “it was mostly dedicated to his everyday villans” every ark in that season had 1 or more simbiotes related in a key point of the plot, ark 1 had Peter get a presumally safe Simbiote but suffering counsekvencess fore it when Venom returns and gets stronger because of that suit, ark 2 used some episodes on setting op the simbiote invasion and Then going thoug With it, ark 3 had Norman return to full power using a simbiote and mixing it With other things to make it stronger and finally ark 4 had it be about the seamingly head simbiotes in that Series try to destroy the Earth. Yes there were other villans there, but it alwas involved a simbiote, that was why they calt it Maximum Venon.
I'm so happy that a popular TH-camr referenced Super Robot Monkey Team Hyperforce Go, helping out one of the most underrated shows in Disney history
It had an insane voice cast
@@Quackervoltz Otto's voice sounds a lot like Uncle Al's impression of Mr. Krabs, also being voiced by Clancy Brown
6:57 got a huge laugh out of me.. might be the only laugh from this show.
Imagine if I dressed up as the Joker
Why?
@kristian rikardsen danm
Watching this just made me realize even more how the younger generations need spectacular to come back. Hell even I need it to come back
you know this is why I like DC and there animations, Disney really treats there marvel animations as a side thing while putting more effort into there movies
before disney bought marvel things used to be interesting, I can't help but think about "Iron man armored adventures" to compare this show like yea they made tony stark young the others two Rody and Pepper did get there own suits but the show had better pacing and had some good build ups for 2 season, also a THEME SONG, thats another thing I never see nowadays with marvel animations but yea there out of touch
DC animation suffered a huge downgrade after Flashpoint Paradox , not only in animated movies but also in cartoons
Because Hollywood movies are mainstream form of entertainment
Right now, Young Justice is the only one worth the time at DC. I refuse to watch Teen Titans Go and I'm not really interested in Harley Quinn.
parkerboy795 DC Super Hero Girls has an episode where they feature the Teen Titans as rambunctious kids like in Teen Titans Go. The Teen Titans go fans were upset over the Tween Titans depiction and were treated like babies in the end.
Their*
I don't know if anyone has said this yet but the song used at the end is from a spongebob flash game called Spongebob Squarepants - Anchovy Assult.
This is honestly one of the most ugly and cheap looking modern cartoons I've seen in recent times.
While it is definitely possible to make an animated show look stunning with a simple art style, this show does it all wrong. The background is so drab and meaningless, and actually kind of clashes with the characters. As for the characters they look so bare bones and lifeless. Nearly absent of any unique or diverse artstyle. Plain and flat. The designs for some of the characters look like they were made just to sell overpriced toys that will be left forgotten at the back of a shelf in Walmart. No love, no care. The outfits could be designed by an 8 year old and look better. At least if that were to happen they'd look interesting. The animation could be more fluid and dynamic but honestly not every show reaches a great standard so it's somewhat passable.
I could talk about the dialogue, plot, and editing but that's what this dude's video is for, and he does a great job at that.
But anyways, seeing the art quality of this show frustrates me. One of the greatest things about animation is that it can show reality in a more dynamic and colorful lens. You can show the impossible, portray details and emotions you might not catch in real life, and most importantly inspire the viewer. Plenty of recent shows have been top tier in nearly every aspect: Ducktales, Infinity Train, Amphibia, The Owl House, I recently watched Hilda and loved it, and I'm sure there's more that I can't think of at the moment.
It's just that one day when I have kids I hope these big TV channels, or I guess streaming services, have quality cartoons for my kids to watch. Or for me to watch, cartoons can be for all ages. I'm still an adult youngin so still a couple of years away till that happens.
I wrote this at 4 A.M. so sorry for any potential grammatical errors.
It's strange, hearing the summary, there's actually a lot of really cool ideas, but they are all wasted. If I were ever able to write a Spider-man comic series, I would love to flesh out some of the more interesting parts of this show.
Worst incarnations of Gwen and Miles.
Miles is an annoying kid that won’t shut up.
Gwen is a know it all that is reckless and got her powers back in a crazy dumb way.
Love the Ultimate Spider-Man soundtrack in the background btw
So, am I, like... the ONLY person who really, really liked this show? It made a point to keep Peter active as a scientist, which is a major part of his character that is often glossed over in adaptations, it focused down on Spider-Man's lore and rogues gallery, as opposed to the last major show, which was all about as many crossovers as they could manage, while still being willing to put their personal spin on a lot of classic characters and stories.
I'm not really surprised to see this video. Most shows based around popular franchises will have at least one or two people offering very vocal criticism, either to bait views or because of genuine complaints. I was, however, extremely taken aback by the broad negativity in the comments. I think the video was actually more forgiving, which is disconcerting since it outright calls it the worst modern Spider-Man cartoon.
I don't know. Maybe I'm biased. Spider-Man was a huge influence on me growing up, and remains my favorite superhero by an incredibly wide margin, and this felt like a lot of care went into going back to the roots. It's just disappointing to think that something I enjoyed so much is seen so poorly by a majority of fans.
pretty old comment but I appreciate perspectives like yours. There's definitely some shows where I'm just puzzled if it has fans and then I find out it's massively popular lol and I always wonder on the flip side with shows that are largely disliked but still has fans and seeing their perspective is always unique. So thanks for sharing.
@@G004Morning Hey, thanks for the respectful response. I still think about this periodically, and it’s nice to get a reply that’s willing to validate my stance, even if you don’t agree with it.
1:15 Dude you just brought back a childhood memory I completely forgot about.
"All women are actually pretty cool"? Is there a typo there or am I reading that wrong?
Giga SIPM!!!!!!
HES A SIMP!!!
So some random jerk I met on the internet is cool?
You know, having to preemptively address the possibly non-existent naysayers ticks me off more than gender swaps...just saying.
Yeah I thought that part was odd. I am not a fan of this show so i don't care about the gender swap. Almost always though, i always disagree with the change of a characters race or gender. That does not mean i hate women though.
@@josesosa3337 Why do you disagree with changing a character's race or gender? They're pretty rarely an important part of the character (and usually characters where they're important aren't changed) and most of the times characters were made white males was because that was considered to be the "default". Electro isn't really a character like Iron Man, Captain America, Batman, etc. where changing his race and gender would fundamentally change the character.
@@ignisinfernal1843 a characters race and ethnicity is part of the character. The "look" is part of the character. Certian things in a character should not change and i think race, ethnicity , and gender are some of those things.
@@josesosa3337 And character's looks get changed all the time. Sometimes characters get their costumes completely redesigned. Sometimes they get different hair styles. Sometimes their hair color is changed. Race and gender (though changing gender honestly is usually a bigger change) aren't much more of a change than those. Electro is always in a full costume with a mask covering almost his entire face (which tbf, they lazily didn't even do), so his race is even less of a part of his look. Electro in particular has had so many interpretations, there is no concrete look for him. Sometimes he's a guy in a yellow and green suit with a lightning bolt star mask. Sometimes he's made of pure electricity. Sometimes he has no mask and instead has a lightning bolt star scar on his face.
Man, what'll it take for a decent looking Marvel cartoon to exist? I wish they were able to break out of the "MCU-lite" aesthetic and bring us something more stylized and cartoon-y.
There's the Marvel Rising franchise composed of 1 movie and a few specials. Here's a clip. What do you think?
th-cam.com/video/1H6SDiFwCug/w-d-xo.html
BlythePennyBicycle21 it’s a step in the right direction, but I still don’t personally find it all that appealing. I’d love to see Marvel cartoons break out of the pseudo-anime, semi realistic look. Gimme something wacky and stylish over that any day.
@@thetoongrump9801 In that case, may I recommend checking out some of the Marvel shorts on TH-cam? There are some Ant Man shorts (which has 1960s comic book style aesthetics) and some Rocket And Groot shorts (with CGI animation from a French studio). There are also a good number of Marvel Superhero Adventures shorts animated by Atomic Cartoons (though those are aimed at the Disney Junior target demographic).
BlythePennyBicycle21 I actually have seen those Ant-Man shorts and I do like them a lot! The Rocket and Groot shorts look fun too. I guess my issue is that I wish that the main shows were as uniquely stylized
Granted, I am excited for Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur!
@@thetoongrump9801 Well, you can't go wrong with Titmouse action shows. They worked on Megas XLR, Motorcity, Niko And The Sword Of Light, and Mao Mao Heroes Of Pure Heart. It also some storyboard artists and directors from Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Big Hero 6 The Series, and Glitch Techs, which all have fluid action. Also, Moon Girl And Devil Dinosaur is animated by Disney Television Animation, being the first after Big Hero 6 The Series. It has the potential to look great.
They should call Miles kid arachnid like ultimate spiderman
But they gave him that stupid SpyD codename in the comics later as well.
@@Ahturos oh that is terrible I hope they don't use that
@@Ahturos No they didn't, they had only planned to call him that but later decided against it. In the comics he's just called Spiderman like Peter.
@@somedonny9357 they mean the ultimate spiderman cartoon
@@marlo176 Nah, the guy I replied to was specifically talking about the comics.
That Ultimate Spider-Man music brings me back
"or as spiderman would call it social media"
i'm just happy that he didn't say " i'm so gonna post that on my facebook page"
We need a gamer otto lofi beats to relax while studying...just saying
I figured you might've brought up the change in showrunners. In season 1, Kevin Shinick was the showrunner. Kevin Burke & Chris Doc Wyatt were consulting producers in season 1 before being promoted to supervising producers (as in new showrunners) in season 2. They were working on this series the same time they were working on Stretch Armstrong And The Flex Fighters for Netflix (they created the show with Spectacular Spiderman co-creator Victor Cook).
I like the show it's ok but I cant deny that it has problems( Alot of problems) but to shorten it I'll cut it to 3 questions
1. Wtf is going on with the writing? Why are they trying to shove a whole bunch of stuff into a couple of episodes?
2. Wtf is up with the animation? Really I'm trying not to hate but this show just screams one word.... BUDGET! But at least it ain't something like teen titans go (anything is better than that dumpster fire)
3. Why doesn't peter work alone? Why does he always have to have his spider budies along or get help from the avengers? They been doing this shit since ultimate spiderman give it a rest already.
One of the main things that made spiderman so appealing was that he did his job solo with no assistance, look at how he handles villains in spectacular spiderman and then compare it with this.
In spectacular spiderman he took down villans by himself, he even took down the sinister 6 by himself twice. In ultimate or in this show he's either getting his ass beat or he gets help from his spider buddies or the avengers. Wtf happend? Anyway like I said I like the show but I cant deny that it's got problems.
I agree with you 100%, my problems are the fact that we got promo arts and poster but we were misled by those beautiful posters, when I saw Rhodes posters I couldn’t wait to see the show but when It aired it was nothing but disappointment
I hope Robbie Daymond gets to be Spider-Man in a better series. I love that man.
It depends. This isn't his first time voicing Spider-Man as he previously voiced him in the English dub of Marvel Disk Wars: The Avengers (which isn't available in America yet). He did voice him in a few video games later on, but I can't find clips of that.
th-cam.com/video/hDnAvPpUzck/w-d-xo.html
Kokoriko He didn’t do a bad job, but all I hear is Akechi
@@BigTalon256 yeah and I don't see him as Spider-Man
I do like the idea of a Spider-Man series that has Peter and Miles around the same age. I wouldn’t mind that being attempted again if we do get another cartoon.
Hell imagine a series where it took inspiration from Persona 5/Swat Kats and where Spidey forms a vigilante team with some friends that doesn’t play by the rules of the cops and Avengers.
Maybe a line up could be
Peter Parker as Spider-Man
Miles Morales as Kid Arachnid
Liz Allan as Screwball/Firestar
Harry Osborn as Hobgoblin
Bobby Drake as Iceman
Gwen Stacy as Ghost-Spider
Felecia Hardy as Black Cat
no
I would find that show much more interesting.
I won't mind seeing the Human torch and Iceman bering in a spider-man cartoon they both had so inporment in Spider-man comic like in the ulimate comic we see them team up at time esically the death of Spider-man event where they help Spider-man fight against this version of the sinster six
That would be very cool, but seeing how the cops, the army, the government, and authority in general are glorified in the U.S., I highly doubt it would ever be made.
The closest thing to that would probably have to be those 2 or 3 comics in the Spider-Geddon storyline that focus on the Spider-Punk universe.
When I first saw this show I thought, “Oh my, this is the ugliest group of frames I have ever seen in my entire life.” But then the show grabbed my heart strings and now I’m obsessed with it. Watching the show makes me forget that it’s produced by a multi billion dollar company, both a good and a bad thing.
Used the very cheap way and watched the 3rd season basically on TH-cam since I was only interested cause they marketed Patrick Brown's promor art for it. I have to say the bits of exchanges between Moon Knight and Spider-Man feel pretty meaningful and the combat pacing with Moon Knight felt genuine from what you sort of showed a preview of after Ben's explanation.
The third season ain’t that bad, but I still wanted it the way it looks in Patrick brown’s art
"Written and memed by Butch Hartman".
They really need to bring back spectacular Spider-Man holy. The serious tone, depth-full characters, and amazing fights are what set it apart. Greatest spiderman adaptation.
Its impossible to happened mate disney has the rights to released some marvel cartoons and freshman year will be the new spidey series
depth-full is not a phrase
Not all women are cool, some are, some are mean, but that’s just being human.
I cant watch this show.. a complete downgrade from the story of spectacular spider-man and a downgrade of animation of ultimate spiderman. I get the feel thanks but It was unnecessary
Yeah there’s so much cringy moments & the voice acting as well. Except Anya & Gwens their voices are good.
@@littlesparrow303 so true
I remember me and my family getting to see a sneak peak of the show about 4 months before the show was supposed to air. It was the scene where peter was trying to fight off the symbiote in his room before being captured by the vulture. What we saw was the final product, as it looked exactly the same as what aired later. The showrunner walked up to us and asked what we thought about it. My mom said it didn't look finished and she hoped they could complete it in time. The showrunner went silent for a few seconds, thanked us for the feedback, and walked away. That's when we knew there was no hope for the show.
This is an amazing story. I would imagine tight deadlines were an issue as well. Your mom should be reviewing this show, not me.
@@NICKtendoReviews for some more information, it was at the D23 convention. There was a small panel at 1:00pm that had the voice cast of the guardians of the galaxy cartoon along with the showrunner. About 40 people including us were in the audience. We got to hear stories, learn that the third season of the gaurdians cartoon would tie into the new ride across the street in disneyland, and saw the unfinished scene.
The best part was the open discussion section. There were some real marvel super fans that knew more about the property than anyone on stage. I actually saw the showrunner taking notes. My favorite question was someone said that other people said that the new ride ruined the integrity of california adventure and one of the panelists said "what integrity?" We all had a chuckle on that one.
That guy didn't care at all
What else happened.. what was your moms reaction?
Why do you need to genderbend and racebend Electro? Make her a new character. I would give her the name Lightning Bird. She would have electric powers with the additional ability into a bird of pure electricity. Her inspirations are of Electro and the lightning bird from African folklore.
I agree. The electro that is shown in Spider-man 2017 is Francine Frye which is different from the electro we all know who is known to be Max Dillon. The writers failed to differentiate between these two electros. If I were the writer I would have either stuck to Max Dillon's electro or make Francine Frye's Electro into a completely different villain instead.
That's the way. Even Stan Lee even say to make a new character.
I really hate when a series diversify for the sake of diversity making a new character is way better
When your official cartoon looks like a licensed insurance commercial
I used to love the series until they shoved Harry in the back who had been an important main character the entire 1st season, I'm so mad about it you won't Belive it
he couldn't have submitted the nanobot bike as that was the biker guy's tech
Idk I kinda liked it, but I agree with a few of your points
*Pacing:* Exists.
*This show:* I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Alright man I see your side of the argument, but if they want to have more female or black characters, they should make more of them, not change old characters. All it shows me is that they want to diversify their show, but they don't want to put real effort into it
There is actually a Sandgirl (who showed up in Sandman's debut episode) and a female Electro in the comics, but they were changed up in the show (such as how they're both closer to Peter's age rather than younger and older respectively, and with Sandgirl being more smug and Electro being made black) .
marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Francine_Frye_(Earth-616)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandman_(Marvel_Comics)
No offence to Robbie Daymond, but he cannot be Spider-Man. He fits more of a Doc Ock to me. I guess that’s because of Akechi. Hell, superior Spider-Man is just Akechi.
5:39 the all women are very cool part definitely isn’t true at all
I agree, if Karen's are an example of anything is that not all women are cool.
Love this video on the wall crawler. Also, I hope there will be a video on Spiderverse
There was?
@@NICKtendoReviews This show didn't tackle the Spider Verse, but Ultimate Spiderman did it twice. There was a 4 part Spider Verse story in 2015 during season 3 and another 4 part story in 2016 during season 4.
When DC needed a female super villain, they created Harley Quinn, when they needed to introduce people to a black character, they gave us Static.... there are plenty of characters that are already female and black that are being forgotten... use those... the MCU is built off of characters we didn't know well...
1. DC didn't create Static, and even then, he's almost never been used outside of a few comic runs and a short-lived, underrated cartoon (and Young Justice, of course).
2. The MCU used lesser-known characters because they had no choice. If they had access to their more popular characters, they would've gotten the spotlight.
3. Completely original characters won't get as much attention for being non-white or female as genderswapping or raceswapping characters, and at the end of the day, it's all about attention. Comics are a dying industry and have been dominated by white males for decades, so Marvel and DC figure they can improve sales by getting more women and non-whites into comics.
4. Most white male characters were made white males because that was considered the "default" and their race or gender has no impact on their character, and changing their gender or race doesn't change anything about the spirit of that character. Electro isn't a character who has a justifiable reason for why his race or gender shouldn't be changed like Black Panther, Iron Man, Captain America, Luke Cage, or Iron Fist.
@@ignisinfernal1843 I'm not sure why more people don't find it insulting for marvel to essentially say that a non white character won't sell unless they piggyback off of a white character's established name.
@@soapbiter36577 That's not really a Marvel thing. That's a general issue with comics and comic adaptations. The problem is, that's sadly how it works a lot of times. Also, it's kinda insulting that you consider that "piggybacking". It's a change in the mantle. Would you also consider Dick Grayson becoming Batman, Barry Allen or Wally West becoming the Flash, Hal Jordan becoming Green Lantern, or Bucky Barnes becoming Captain America the same way? This is done all the time and it generally works, with the successor sometimes becoming more popular, or at least establishing a cult following rivaling their predecessor. Most people prefer the Barry Allen Flash to Jay Garrick, a lot of people prefer Wally West over Barry Allen. Most people prefer Hal Jordan over Alan Scott. A good nonwhite example is John Stewart. He has become very popular and a lot of people grew up with him and prefer him as Green Lantern the same way someone might've grown up with Wally West or might have gotten into comics while Sam Wilson was Captain America or when Riri Williams was introduced.
@@ignisinfernal1843 No. I don't consider it insulting for dick grayson to take the batman mantle because of his long history with bruce. The insulting part comes not from someone taking a role of another character but us being fed "representation" in that form. A big example that comes to mind is new 52 wally west, he quite literally is just a black character with a white character's name and I hated it.
Considering how huge black panther became after getting a movie I don't really believe in the idea that black characters won't sell. So I would much rather see more of that and less of recoloring the white characters.
@@soapbiter36577 Yet Sam Wilson becoming Captain America was still viciously criticized. I would rather see more of new characters, as well, but I have no problem with changing the race of white characters. There are already far more white characters than nonwhite because for decades, white characters have been seen as the "standard". The majority of the time, characters were made white just because (with a few exceptions, like Iron Fist, for example) and black characters were made specifically because they wanted to make a black character. I have absolutely no problem with it unless the character has a reason to be white and as long as it's written well. New 52 Wally West is a completely different character than the white Wally West and isn't just a "recoloring". They have the same name because the black version was meant to fill in the same role of Barry Allen's sidekick. Aside from that, they're completely different. Also, in the case of Black Panther, that movie was partially also successful because it featured a very well-established character who has been around for almost 60 years, had the backing of the most successful film franchise in history, and he had been introduced in and played a large role in an earlier film. I'm not arguing that original black characters won't sell, just that it's easier to do a race-swap or create a black successor for an older character, especially in a dying industry like comics, where new characters generally are hard to make successful.
5:41 I did read what you wrote there, but I have to politely disagree. Changing who a character is can be a big betrayal to the fans who know how that character should be. I know that calling this series an AU does help, but I’m more concerned over why they keep doing this same change to various media, and change guys to girls so often. Spider-Man has plenty of female villains in the comics, right? Even if they’re less well-known, they’d be a better choice to maintain the consistency of character portrayals across mediums and series of Spider-Man media, while making big changes like this is more like ‘What if so and so got Electro’s powers instead of Electro?’ The more and more one changes the character, the less and less the character they’ve changed is the character they started out with. I’d just like them to clarify that it’s just they’re own character for this show, and not something they plan on pushing forward everywhere else.
Well, to be fair that's kinda Marvel's thing in general. Over the years we had dozens of different interpretations for pretty much all notable characters, electro included, I don't see why it should become a problem now.
I hate to see the same style of animation in the current Marvel series, it seems that they do not put effort and also it is not good that all the series are connected to each other, it is somewhat confusing and the chronology does not make sense.
So I was just gonna find out Super Robot Monkey Team was on Disney Plus from a spiderman video? I gotta run
I'm still loving The spectacular spiderman and the ultimate spiderman show, this I didn't appreciate that much the designs were too poor. It also make sense why DC animation is better
The Octavius in the Cortex robot is an actual comic thing.
1:15 MY MAN KNOWS. Damn I thought I was the ONLY one who remembered this show, started to think I was a fever dream of mine. Review when!?!? Also it's a clrearly a Getter copy, not an Eva one duh.
man I recognized the tune of sky chase from ultimate Spider-Man at the 5 min mark and you using the tone from the bank mission of the first game for the ps1 that's a nostalgia kick to the head
5:40, getting big simp energy in that paragraph, but I agree about the gender swap and diversifying a character allows a good change of pace.
sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't
You want a diverse cast of characters? Create a new one, it ain't that hard, jeez.
@@jamesporter571 It's safe to say about 99% of the time swapping character's gender and race never works. The only 1% that works was Nick Fury, but the rest were garbage pandering trash.
5:40 “I’m a simp so black washing is cool.”
James Porter true
Really wanted a nicktendo video right now! thank you man!