We just had a huge snow storm here in Ontario a couple days ago with 21 plus inches of the white stuff and I was able to put my wife's palisade to the test. We do have some Michelin X Ice on the vehicle, and let me say I've had lots of AWD and 4x4 vehicles like Ford, GMC, Toyota, Volvo and my wife's last vehicle was a wrangler Rubicon, I loved the jeep but it was just too small for 2 kids and 2 big dogs. I was very impressed with how the Palisade performed! Didn't have any problems getting around. Hit a couple of very deep snow spots where the plows blocked in the side streets and this thing just plowed right through. One time I though I was stuck but the tires just dug down to the pavement and I was moving again. I was very skeptical about getting a Hyundai at first but after owning the Palisade for a 4 months now I am very happy with our purchase.
Same with my Santa Fe 2.5 T 2022, with yesterday snow storm and crazy road conditions still I was able to cruise the city for 6hrs in all the road where they didn't even clean the road yet. In love with my car
I figure 99.999999% of people never go off road. And nobody buys it for 0-60. Its a daily driver for most people. I live in Canada and have snow tires so why use all seasons that are really not all season but marketing? But I like seeing different perspectives. I have subscribed.
My Toyota highlander hybrid used to do that. I was shocked the first time. I put snow tires and it drove like a Champ after that. No snow or ice works stop it. This guy looks like took the car out to show it was a failure.
You are 100% wrong actually, all my family use our vehicle when we go to our relatives ranches which most the time are essential to have good cars for off roads
I think he means representative on how the system works. You can give an Olympic sprinter the best running shoes, but they’re useless on slipper surfaces..
I don't find the AWD to be a problem at all. It is street tuned like many AWD systems. AWD systems in vehicles from Ford, Nissan, Mercedes, etc also shut down in certain conditions.
It's not the awd system at fault here,it's the tires,you can see the system sending power all around but no grip with the all seasons,and why would anybody try to drive through the slick stuff and not use momentum,you can get anything stuck if you try hard enough
@@Petoskey116 I see you don't pay attention. For one he literally said he is not allowed to change the tires. You drive with what it came with. The majority of people who buy this vehicle aren't going to invest in a second set of tires anyways so this is just fine of a review.
I agree with most of what was said. Simply adjusting the driving technique once the tires lost grip and couldn’t do anymore solved the problem. Driving technique plus the car’s computer, could probably handle it pretty easily. If an owner “could” switch out the tires for something more appropriate for the conditions, I’m betting it would have been just fine.
I just bought the Limited AWD 2021 Palisade a week ago and am completely in love with the car. It has everything my family and I need and then some! I'd highly recommend this car to anyone interested for any reason.
@@Visualhead_Spacer That's unfortunate, I feel for you. Luckily we avoided dealer markup and were able to get one local to where we live (Northern California). Where are you located? Scarcity is definitely playing a factor and research what you can to ensure you get what you're looking for without paying the ridiculous dealer markup.
We just upgraded to the 2021 Limited from a 2020 SE model. Boy what a world of difference. Apparently they are selling like hot cakes because the dealership we went to only had two of the exact same trim and optioned Limited versions, even down to the paint color.
I have a 2020 Kia Sorento SXL AWD V6. And i think my older Dynamax AWD system is far superior to this newer Htrac. Tires also play a HUGE role in getting through this kind of weather/terrain.
FYI, turning off split screen in the menus for the connected phone will enable full screen CarPlay again. It's just set by default on the 2021 to allow split screen with the head unit using the right 1/3rd of the display.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
This was a real review of the deep enough snow conditions that actually put the vehicle to the test. I'm 2 miles down a mountain road that gets *plenty* of snow, and appreciate reviews like this. Thanks!
PLEASE CORRECT YOUR MISINFORMATION AT THE 2:00 MARK. I own the 2021 calligraphy and know for a fact you were incorrect on these topics: - you mentioned that apple CarPlay doesn’t take up the screen anymore. CarPlay DOES take up the full screen. All you have to do is turn off the split screen option in the CarPlay settings of the car. (Note: to access this setting, CarPlay cannot be active, so your phone must be UNPLUGGED from the car.) - you mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. Please be sure to thoroughly research the car’s settings before making statements like these
Great review , but in all fairness it's not the car or the transmission that failed you, it was clearly the tires. All wheels were spinning and no forward progress made because of loss of traction. You could have had 3 diffs locked and get the same result with these tires.Not to mention the 20" rims. Snow tires are made for snow, not that cheap "all season" crap they put from the factory. (As a Canadian driver I should know). The shut down was imminent to save the engine and components. However, I think there had to be a warning light after that. Hyundai should come up with an explanation or a fix.
Lmaooo we got out palisade stuck in snow this year and it did the same thing. It gave a bunch of warnings and disabled terrain modes. Did the same thing man
@@DrivingSportsLive so they never gave an answer? I didn’t expect you to hold a video but you’ve thrown in manufacture’s responses on problems like Nissan’s. Was just wondering
@@zero2sixty244 Correct. We discussed it. I shared the video with them. They sent it to engineering for review. I told them when we needed a reply by (so we could add to the video) and they didn't follow up.
As for the shutdown, I wonder if it was related to the auto start/stop thing. I saw in another video where a person had the same shutdown when they caught the engine just turning itself off as they stepped on the gas, and it confused the whole system. Restarted the car and it was like nothing happened. Never been a fan of that feature so I would just leave that off myself.
First, confession. I'm awaiting delivery of it's little brother, the Santa Fe. Your videos are some of the absolute best for judging how vehicles will perform in tough conditions in the real world. I concur that you should have seen warning messages. That said, it seemed to do very well on what you described as extremely slippery conditions, uphill, from a standstill, and without snow tires. Thanks.
@@MBZ-Nation it actually doesn't. This vehicle failed the test due to the tires, not the awd system. As you can see all 4 tires were spinning trying to gain traction and the TIRES still wouldn't grip.
2:06 I'm glad you pointing it out, i hope they see your review. How in the world they manage to make things worse in newer model and it passes for production? And it's just programing, person in office chair doing it's keyboard labor, it's not like they have to remodel the bumper, manufacture it and pass it through collision test it was actually spinning all wheels and it seems with closed center clutch it had better continuous delivery, unless that was just more throttle, it's too bad it quits even it's not grinding clutches, but maybe they have built in fault mode when vehicle doesn't move even if there is wheel spin, especially with faster wheel spin 13:34... I agree there should be at least some sort of code message for damage prevention, there could be things we don't know of which can go bad
The 2:00 mark was MISINFORMATION. I reported it in a comment with all caps , hoping they see it. They made two mistakes at that mark , actually - I own a 21 calligraphy. Apple CarPlay CAN be used full screen. It is a setting you have to change. You have to disable split screen in the car’s CarPlay settings, which are only accessible if your phone is UNPLUGGED from the car. That’s why he couldn’t find it. As far as the drive mode animations, they’re definitely still there. They can be enabled in the settings. He simply wasn’t looking hard enough.
I got a 25 calligraphy and I love it!! I also have 22 bmw x7 and what Hyundai lacks in luxury and handling it makes up in space and gadgets that my 107k BMW doesn’t have. Great family hauler.
It's actually a really good looking vehicle. Just not into Hyundai-Kia stuff. Awesome video as usual. Whatever happened with your deal with IgnitionTV Ryan?
We stopped producing broadcast versions for a while. But we just wrapped a couple new series for syndication. We’re hoping they’ll pick it up again. It always helps if viewers request it too. 😎
@@drivingsports I will chat with some of the Multichoice guys I know. I do fear IgnitionTV is on a serious downward trend. Streaming services are providing tougher competition than the parent company planned for.
Dude, your reaction when the car shut down was **classic!** Yeah, it doesn't make me want to take a Palisade in deep snow. Hopefully, Hyundai is always learning and always improving...
Been plowed in in NYC, by those snow plows, this past horrendous winter. Was hell to get out, after that stuff froze. Took alot of digging, then reversing and forwarding to get out.
I bought 1 and no shot down on mud snow or sand. Love it and as long as all these functions are packed on value I will continue to buy this palisade in the future.
After driving in slushy conditions and almost going off the road in our 2020 we change out the OEM tires to Toyo Celcius CUV....completely changed the handling and it feels confident in all conditions.
Recently purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD; there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.
Question: Why don't you rock the steering wheel side to side when trying to get unstuck? I've seen that as an old off-roader's trick to try to make the tires bite in mud or snow.
The gentleman didn't do his homework. The leather and design of the seats are different from the limited. There are also a number of other interior upgrades included. Other functional differences as well.
Can you please say honestly how Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run 500k to 600k km? I want to know because I have a confusion to choose from Hyundai Palisade V6, Volkswagen Atlas sel V6, and Honda Pilot Elite V6, please give me the right information because I want to choose a V6 car which will run perfectly 500k to 600k km without any big issues.
I think they're probably pretty even. But you should check Consumer Reports data to verify, since we don't actually do any reliability testing. Between the two, I would probably get the CX9.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
Thanks for the video Ryan. Yeah, that shut down was really weird. I hope Hyundai gets back to you, so that your viewers/potential buyers, know what they're getting into. As far as looks, I would take this over the American 3 row versions.. PS: Beautiful scenery as always, my friend..
Thank you very much for your review honestly in my opinion this was very honest review the reason I’m saying that is because when I watch the other reviews they look like promotion they don’t look like they are giving an honest review because I think the companies of the manufacture of the vehicle they don’t like to show the actual fault they only give it to the people who they do the review only for the purpose of promotion not for the purpose for the customer to know how is the vehicle actually running in a situation that you may encounter. thank you very much and please keep doing your job in this honest manner and don’t fall into the trap of the companies that trying to get promotion not a review. thank you very much for your review and the hard work. God bless you.
Thanks for your reviews. We loved your review on the Atlas (which is what we got instead of the Palisade). I like VWs, but this seems like a great vehicle too. But I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your reviews. Keep up the good work!
Can you do the same with Pilot please. Big fan of Pilot but mine was a total loss due to an accident. Now I am thinking to buy Calligraphy, but I am bit skeptical specially due to the the highway wind noise.
The thing is if you are a normal person putting yourself in a situation like that without knowing how to properly prep beforehand with winter tires or experience, you deserve to get stuck. Also, as you see, he was able to get out which is the ultimate goal, right?
While I would normally agree with that, we test drove and researched the Pilot vs the Palisade. The Palisade is comparable or better it just about every way and was about $5K cheaper. Additionally, it has a better expected reliability vs the Pilot according to Consumer Reports. My limited experience with the Palisade's AWD is that it is good enough but not as good as my Outback's AWD, but I don't have any experience with the Pilot's AWD to draw a comparison. I would like to see other cars doing this same run in the video in the snow to make a comparison.
@@sleze The Honda's rear vectoring AWD is technically superior and definitely on road with it's 70% power to rear end and steering aid capability, but in diagonal obstacles it's still clutch limited and it did overheat to some journalists... As much as i like it, i can't not ignore how much spin it takes to get traction... check here the recent ivtm4 rear wheels only th-cam.com/video/fqtTLSqIiB8/w-d-xo.html and here their previous non vectoring vtm4 th-cam.com/video/Ivfjmckk4No/w-d-xo.html it makes 180° wheel turn and it's moving, much better I do like in single rear wheel tests how new ivtm4 nicely puts 100% of rear 70% power to just that single wheel, but i wish they would make one more aggressive mode which takes much less spin to get grip
My podiatrist has a Hyundai SUV..Santa Fe I think. He is battling Hyundai about excessive oil consumption. The brand also has unwanted braking issues with collision mitigation. Then there is the sudden failure of engines....catastrophic failures. Toyota is way better and Honda as well.
@@sleze Hyundai and Kia have been the value proposition, especially since they do the warranty. I still don’t believe that the reliability is there. Look at any 3-5 year old Kia or Hyundai and the Honda’s are always in better shape. Not saying things can’t change but they still have a ways to go.
Hey man, just found you at a perfect moment when am about to get this car. You doing a great job and your videos are amazing. And I subscribed because you're cool
Were buying one for my wife. Overall impressed with its snow abilities given the conditions and tires. Think that shut down was a fluke. I was climbing an incline slowly in her old Cadillac and it killed power and put it in park. I mean, lets face it, no one is gonna be trying to get through snow like this, he’s just trying to see the AWD system ability. It probably tried for too long and it’s probably the car’s way of saying stop, cause it doesn’t know whats going on. Anyone else would kill traction, lock the wheels, and give her the beans 😈
I am sad to see the HTRAC system is still only marginal at best. I had a pretty bad experience with a Santa Fe a couple of years ago. The issue is with the AWD center clutch pack that overheats very easily and the electronics have to intervene quickly to shut everything down. Honestly the 4-wheel lock is a joke on these. Surprising that you did not have an overheating indicator; now imagine adding their 8-speed dual clutch to the mix and the result is even scarier. Better to stay on the beaten path with a Hyundai/Kia with HTRAC.
I don't understand how the vehicle just determines to shut itself off??? The same thing happened to that benz suv you reviewed a bit ago and I am wondering what the companies explanation was for this turning off stuff?
Correct. I own a 21 calligraphy and you can definitely make CarPlay full screen. You can only access the setting when your phone is unplugged. That’s where he went wrong. He also mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. I hate it when these reviewers make false assumptions
Very entertaining, thanks Ryan. Answer this question...why is every Palisade I see either black or white, like your press mule? I've seen plenty of Telluride in at least 4 colors (black, white, green and blue). Are people or dealers afraid of color? I like that road and the challenges it brings to the table...
I call driver error. When driving in deep snow and getting stuck, you don't go straight to the throttle, you rapidly tap the accelerator which reduces wheel spin.
Your review was excellent. I am also pausing based on the Snow Test. Never saw a car shutdown like that. I have a 2019 Acura MDX with Advance Package. The new 2022 Acura MDX with Advance Package is Winking at me, particularly with all the betterments and enhancements. It seems that SHAWDY is better than HTRAC IMHO based on this test drive. I'm in no rush, as my lease e ds in June 2022, however, if Acura co es out with Trade Up program, i would be tempted , perhaps later this year. And there is a sizeable price difference between the Palisade Calligraphy vs. Acura MDX Advance. We'll see. Thx again for your videos, one of the best on line reviews.
Got the 2021 Black Edition Pilot. The I-VTM4 AWD system is amazing. Same as the SH-AWD for Acura but tuned different for the Pilot. This channel has been the only one I’ve seen point out this very very important detail. Research and make sure your getting every bang for your buck. Most reviewers gloss over the AWD systems. Just because it says it’s AWD doesn’t mean it’s good or will perform well.
So Palisade is just a city slicker, it ain't the real deal for the country...It ain't the Range Rover, but I guess it is good enough for less than 1/2 the price. Great test! Thanks for sharing the vid.
Really like the P-Sade overall over the T-Ride. Would own one if we needed a large SUV. So we own 2019 and 2020 Santa Fe models....super happy with both. Kind of look like baby Palisades.
I would assume they wouldn't have an issue, since we've done worse without ever having that happen. BUT, you can never be certain unless doing a controlled side-by-side test.
In all honesty, I had the 2008 subaru Tribeca limited and lived it so did my kids and my wife. It was our first subaru. Now we have the 2020 ascent limited 8 seats and somehow I don't feel the fun as i had with the Tribeca. Could be the cvt? Not sure. So I wanted to trade it for the palisade limited or sel. But wife and kids are not too excited about that. My dislikes with the ascent limited are the lack of trunk space with 3rd row up. The position of the USB on the 3rd row seat when my kids are there, still getting used to the cvt. The palisade offers more luxury and features for the same price as the ascent limited or touring. Am I being too picky? I don't take my vehicle off road but am planning to go camping this summer with family. So what do you think? Long term wise, am I better off keeping the ascent or getting the palisade?
@@zogadwoe ...as a lot of reviewers say, "...it's tough to buy a bad car these days; but it is possible to buy the wrong car..." Your Tribeca had the 6-cyl and the Ascent the new FA24DIT; but the biggest difference is probably that CVT. Remember, Subaru's BIG thing is safety, so the car is not going to allow too much fun (fun police is standard). I'm sure the CVT also has issues with engine or off-throttle braking, meaning the car doesn't really slow down when you lift off the gas. Also, the Ascent always finished mid-pack in the 7-passenger comparo tests. I think the biggest complaints were the interior and the CVT. As far as your passengers...if they could have everything in the Palisade they have in the Ascent, I'm sure they wouldn't mind. If they do mind, then it is easy enough for them to not ride in it and walk where they need to go.
@@K03sport The Subaru Ascent will allow for tons of fun. There are a lot of videos on youtube showing people throwing them around, drifting in snow, etc. If you want the fun of the older Subaru's in the new Ascent, turn OFF the Traction Control. This will allow for wheel spin and it's a lot of fun!
@@drivingsports Check around 8:39 and 8:57 two fairly big ones, but other small ones throughout that segment as well. Almost sounds like bump stops on suspension but perhaps just exaggerated on the mic?
I'd Love to see your Snow test in this video compare a to 2022 Acura MDX SHAWDY Advance against the Pallisade - in the same place. That shut down was concerning to me, even though I don't go Off Road, But will have to handle snowy roads.
I am in Irvine, CA. Hyundai HQ is in Garden Grove, CA. I asked a Hyundai guy to investigate what that engine shut-off is all about and reply to this comment section. 13:40
@@drivingsports thanks, Ryan! Btw I wanted to let you know that it’s thanks to your RAV4 Prime review that I ended up getting one. 5 months and 8k miles later it’s been the best purchase of my life! 🚗
@@DrivingSportsLive no kidding, I’ve had a few people stop me and ask where they can find one, and I’ve never seen another on the road (that I know of)! Btw, any beginner advice on finding some stock RAV4-accessible trails in WA?
@@RyanHolben Once the snow clears, try the Gold Creek exit off I-90 near Snoqualmie. Go down the road until it turns into NF-4832, to NF-4934, to NF-4948 (keep an eye out for a lookout to stop for lunch), Continue on NF-4948 to NF-4936 until it eventually connects to Katchess Lake Road. (Basically, just stay on the main line.) That will pop you back onto I-90 near Easton. Throughout the year conditions will vary, but it has some amazing views and is pretty easy (but watch for deep ruts from rainfall.)
Definitely an issue with the choice of tires, however, Hyundai needs to come up with an explanation for the unexpected shutdown, that too without any displayed warnings etc.
Just came across your channel this week (April 28) and can appreciate the thoroughness you put into your videos when reviewing vehicles like this Hyundai. I'm not in the market for a Hyundai but I'm in the market for a 4Runner and your other videos on the 4Runner are exactly what I need to make my decision on what trim of 4Runner I want. Thanks for all your efforts.
OK you did good with the throttle rocking, really good, yeah the computers seem to sometimes want to exercise more control than needed, but that might be workable lol. Anyway it seems like a good idea might be to ask to bring along a flight recorder device to plug into its obd port if you cannot drag along a tech from the shop. It would record everything the vehicle is doing and processing at the point of shutdown in case no fault codes were recorded. It can be annoying when you have video and they find no codes. i would suspect the following. likely issue. The locking mechanism. It was either mechanically stressed, or approaching that limit or a thermal one. When you restarted the car, I noticed you said you had to relock it. Was there a click when it shut down or in cycling the engine before starting it? Wait, my bad old diesel habit. On Semi trucks the clutch , especially the clutches on the automatics like the 10 speeds, can get hot and alarms start going off and it screams driver abuse to the dispatcher over the satellite networks and may not properly unlock or if it does, not reengage. The solution would be to either manually press the clutch in after shutting it off and recycle the transmission and engine software via the ignition key and wait for the hissing, popping and buzzing to stop and restart it, or if no clutch pedal, hold the brake to disengage the clutch and recycle again. I would think the locking mechanism or a related sensor was the issue. I find it odd that it was unlocked when you restarted it unless it is designed to auto unlock before a shutdown. If it is designed to disengage before shutdown, then they need to simply add a shut down warning then alert to avoid or shutdown will commence in x number of seconds then wait x number to restart. So, either the lock i am thinking or they simply need to program a text message to appear so the soccer mom lost in the forest does not scream in terror and pull out her hair when her car dies in the middle of nowhere out of cell phone coverage in the woods LOL.
If you can’t change the tires on the vehicle as you stated in the beginning, then of course this vehicle along with many others would be limited with off-road performance such as this test. You could clearly see all the tires were turning they just had no grip. I would be more concerned if you saw that the tires were not turning.
We just had a huge snow storm here in Ontario a couple days ago with 21 plus inches of the white stuff and I was able to put my wife's palisade to the test. We do have some Michelin X Ice on the vehicle, and let me say I've had lots of AWD and 4x4 vehicles like Ford, GMC, Toyota, Volvo and my wife's last vehicle was a wrangler Rubicon, I loved the jeep but it was just too small for 2 kids and 2 big dogs. I was very impressed with how the Palisade performed! Didn't have any problems getting around. Hit a couple of very deep snow spots where the plows blocked in the side streets and this thing just plowed right through. One time I though I was stuck but the tires just dug down to the pavement and I was moving again. I was very skeptical about getting a Hyundai at first but after owning the Palisade for a 4 months now I am very happy with our purchase.
Same with my Santa Fe 2.5 T 2022, with yesterday snow storm and crazy road conditions still I was able to cruise the city for 6hrs in all the road where they didn't even clean the road yet. In love with my car
Such an understated auto channel on TH-cam. Love your off-road content. Keep it coming.
cause it is one only where author actually drive/test cars outside dealer's lot.
rest of u=tubers are just paid-nonpaid presenters
Understated for now... everyone starts out with low numbers, but quality of content in the long run will always shine.
Right
I figure 99.999999% of people never go off road. And nobody buys it for 0-60. Its a daily driver for most people. I live in Canada and have snow tires so why use all seasons that are really not all season but marketing? But I like seeing different perspectives. I have subscribed.
My Toyota highlander hybrid used to do that. I was shocked the first time. I put snow tires and it drove like a Champ after that. No snow or ice works stop it. This guy looks like took the car out to show it was a failure.
You are 100% wrong actually, all my family use our vehicle when we go to our relatives ranches which most the time are essential to have good cars for off roads
Testing a car’s ability in snow by starting from full stop on an incline covered in ice without winter tires is not representative of anything.
Yes it is. It represents many vehicle owners across the US that think all-season or summer tires are sufficient for snow covered roadways
I think he means representative on how the system works. You can give an Olympic sprinter the best running shoes, but they’re useless on slipper surfaces..
the best car reviewing channel you can find! good job!
I don't find the AWD to be a problem at all. It is street tuned like many AWD systems. AWD systems in vehicles from Ford, Nissan, Mercedes, etc also shut down in certain conditions.
It's not the awd system at fault here,it's the tires,you can see the system sending power all around but no grip with the all seasons,and why would anybody try to drive through the slick stuff and not use momentum,you can get anything stuck if you try hard enough
I've had FWD get through the snow better - You're spot on, t's all about that tire. This guy should put some Snow tires on there for the real review.
@@Petoskey116 I see you don't pay attention. For one he literally said he is not allowed to change the tires. You drive with what it came with. The majority of people who buy this vehicle aren't going to invest in a second set of tires anyways so this is just fine of a review.
It is absolutely cumbersome to keep and change your tires every year. So so difficult and annoying.
I agree with most of what was said. Simply adjusting the driving technique once the tires lost grip and couldn’t do anymore solved the problem. Driving technique plus the car’s computer, could probably handle it pretty easily. If an owner “could” switch out the tires for something more appropriate for the conditions, I’m betting it would have been just fine.
@@shailenderkukreja5238 It's literally an hour to do. I've stored tires in my condo lol come on man
I just bought the Limited AWD 2021 Palisade a week ago and am completely in love with the car. It has everything my family and I need and then some! I'd highly recommend this car to anyone interested for any reason.
you are lucky, im having trouble finding the right options we needed without paying extra markups and looking farther dealer locations..
@@Visualhead_Spacer That's unfortunate, I feel for you. Luckily we avoided dealer markup and were able to get one local to where we live (Northern California). Where are you located? Scarcity is definitely playing a factor and research what you can to ensure you get what you're looking for without paying the ridiculous dealer markup.
We just upgraded to the 2021 Limited from a 2020 SE model. Boy what a world of difference. Apparently they are selling like hot cakes because the dealership we went to only had two of the exact same trim and optioned Limited versions, even down to the paint color.
At least all the wheels were all spinning. Seemed like a very tough spot for those tires.
Agree. Can't get any better than all 4 wheels. Needs better tires
I have a 2020 Kia Sorento SXL AWD V6. And i think my older Dynamax AWD system is far superior to this newer Htrac. Tires also play a HUGE role in getting through this kind of weather/terrain.
FYI, turning off split screen in the menus for the connected phone will enable full screen CarPlay again. It's just set by default on the 2021 to allow split screen with the head unit using the right 1/3rd of the display.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
If it had snow tires this would be a champ obviously it shut down everything before it overheated
This was a real review of the deep enough snow conditions that actually put the vehicle to the test. I'm 2 miles down a mountain road that gets *plenty* of snow, and appreciate reviews like this. Thanks!
Beautiful videography. Never miss an episode even when I care nothing about the car reviewed 🔥🔥🔥
PLEASE CORRECT YOUR MISINFORMATION AT THE 2:00 MARK. I own the 2021 calligraphy and know for a fact you were incorrect on these topics:
- you mentioned that apple CarPlay doesn’t take up the screen anymore. CarPlay DOES take up the full screen. All you have to do is turn off the split screen option in the CarPlay settings of the car. (Note: to access this setting, CarPlay cannot be active, so your phone must be UNPLUGGED from the car.)
- you mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it.
Please be sure to thoroughly research the car’s settings before making statements like these
Just got a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy. Love it.
Thanks for the reviews!
Best automobile testing channel.
Alex on autos does a good job. I just wish the whole lot would do nightime headlight comparisons
Great review , but in all fairness it's not the car or the transmission that failed you, it was clearly the tires. All wheels were spinning and no forward progress made because of loss of traction. You could have had 3 diffs locked and get the same result with these tires.Not to mention the 20" rims. Snow tires are made for snow, not that cheap "all season" crap they put from the factory. (As a Canadian driver I should know). The shut down was imminent to save the engine and components. However, I think there had to be a warning light after that. Hyundai should come up with an explanation or a fix.
Lmaooo we got out palisade stuck in snow this year and it did the same thing. It gave a bunch of warnings and disabled terrain modes. Did the same thing man
That’s very interesting to hear. Thanks for letting us know.
@@drivingsports are you not gonna get a message/statement from Hyundai?
@@zero2sixty244 After discussing it with them, we waited 3 weeks. We can't hold the video forever.
@@DrivingSportsLive so they never gave an answer? I didn’t expect you to hold a video but you’ve thrown in manufacture’s responses on problems like Nissan’s. Was just wondering
@@zero2sixty244 Correct. We discussed it. I shared the video with them. They sent it to engineering for review. I told them when we needed a reply by (so we could add to the video) and they didn't follow up.
I know this isn't the first video with it but love the new intro!
As for the shutdown, I wonder if it was related to the auto start/stop thing. I saw in another video where a person had the same shutdown when they caught the engine just turning itself off as they stepped on the gas, and it confused the whole system. Restarted the car and it was like nothing happened. Never been a fan of that feature so I would just leave that off myself.
First, confession. I'm awaiting delivery of it's little brother, the Santa Fe.
Your videos are some of the absolute best for judging how vehicles will perform in tough conditions in the real world.
I concur that you should have seen warning messages.
That said, it seemed to do very well on what you described as extremely slippery conditions, uphill, from a standstill, and without snow tires.
Thanks.
Honestly, this snow test would have been tough even for the Bronco Sport. Snow is the toughest stuff to drive in.
Bronco Sport? Lol. High standards there...but even the baby Branco has a much better awd system.
@@MBZ-Nation it actually doesn't. This vehicle failed the test due to the tires, not the awd system. As you can see all 4 tires were spinning trying to gain traction and the TIRES still wouldn't grip.
2:06 I'm glad you pointing it out, i hope they see your review. How in the world they manage to make things worse in newer model and it passes for production? And it's just programing, person in office chair doing it's keyboard labor, it's not like they have to remodel the bumper, manufacture it and pass it through collision test
it was actually spinning all wheels and it seems with closed center clutch it had better continuous delivery, unless that was just more throttle, it's too bad it quits even it's not grinding clutches, but maybe they have built in fault mode when vehicle doesn't move even if there is wheel spin, especially with faster wheel spin 13:34... I agree there should be at least some sort of code message for damage prevention, there could be things we don't know of which can go bad
The 2:00 mark was MISINFORMATION. I reported it in a comment with all caps , hoping they see it. They made two mistakes at that mark , actually -
I own a 21 calligraphy. Apple CarPlay CAN be used full screen. It is a setting you have to change. You have to disable split screen in the car’s CarPlay settings, which are only accessible if your phone is UNPLUGGED from the car. That’s why he couldn’t find it. As far as the drive mode animations, they’re definitely still there. They can be enabled in the settings. He simply wasn’t looking hard enough.
@@eBikify got it, thanks for clarification
I got a 25 calligraphy and I love it!! I also have 22 bmw x7 and what Hyundai lacks in luxury and handling it makes up in space and gadgets that my 107k BMW doesn’t have. Great family hauler.
It's actually a really good looking vehicle. Just not into Hyundai-Kia stuff. Awesome video as usual. Whatever happened with your deal with IgnitionTV Ryan?
We stopped producing broadcast versions for a while. But we just wrapped a couple new series for syndication. We’re hoping they’ll pick it up again. It always helps if viewers request it too. 😎
@@drivingsports I will chat with some of the Multichoice guys I know. I do fear IgnitionTV is on a serious downward trend. Streaming services are providing tougher competition than the parent company planned for.
@@benoit.b9337 Hyundai and Kia is great now!
@@bradleyscarreviews I wouldn’t say that. Too many engine fires lately.
I think this is the only channel out there that shows real off-road capabilities, no bs.
Dude, your reaction when the car shut down was **classic!** Yeah, it doesn't make me want to take a Palisade in deep snow. Hopefully, Hyundai is always learning and always improving...
Been plowed in in NYC, by those snow plows, this past horrendous winter. Was hell to get out, after that stuff froze. Took alot of digging, then reversing and forwarding to get out.
@@phatphuk2761 Even Grand Cherokees get plowed in. Those snow banks can go 3-4 feet high. You have to shovel right after the storm.
I bought 1 and no shot down on mud snow or sand. Love it and as long as all these functions are packed on value I will continue to buy this palisade in the future.
what tires you got?
@@drking3000 right now just all weather goodyear tires. Nothing fancy.
After driving in slushy conditions and almost going off the road in our 2020 we change out the OEM tires to Toyo Celcius CUV....completely changed the handling and it feels confident in all conditions.
Palisade: "let me put comfort on for you"
Driver: "ok...?"
Palisade: "you'll be sitting here a while"
Recently purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD; there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.
Would love to see the same test conducted for the Pilot, Highlander, CX9
Question: Why don't you rock the steering wheel side to side when trying to get unstuck? I've seen that as an old off-roader's trick to try to make the tires bite in mud or snow.
what about the build quality structure is strong like american cars or just used cheap metal please replied i need to book my car this month
The gentleman didn't do his homework. The leather and design of the seats are different from the limited. There are also a number of other interior upgrades included. Other functional differences as well.
We’ve filmed both this and the Limited. Hyundai says the leather is different. We compared our footage of both and they are identical.
Fantastic snow review! I wanted to watch the video before pulling my palisade out of our garage into the sheets of ice.
Which one should I buy
2022 Nissan pathfinder platinum, 2022 hyundai palisade calligraphy or 2022 Kia telluride sx?
How about a long-term review, including oil consumption?
Can you please say honestly how Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run 500k to 600k km? I want to know because I have a confusion to choose from Hyundai Palisade V6, Volkswagen Atlas sel V6, and Honda Pilot Elite V6, please give me the right information because I want to choose a V6 car which will run perfectly 500k to 600k km without any big issues.
Quality and reliability wise which out of Palisade and CX9 you feel more confident to recommend based on your personal experience? Thank You.
I think they're probably pretty even. But you should check Consumer Reports data to verify, since we don't actually do any reliability testing. Between the two, I would probably get the CX9.
@@drivingsports Thank you.
@@mikey27437 www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2021-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds, www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/top-10-2020-upper-midsize-suvs-by-customer-satisfaction
The headunit does display. its in the head unit settings.
Full screen Apple CarPlay has to be set to full screen instead of split screen I think it’s under phone projection in the Palisades settings.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
For people in some parts of the world where snow does not exist, you just told us to import the Palisate now. Thanks
Thanks for the video Ryan. Yeah, that shut down was really weird. I hope Hyundai gets back to you, so that your viewers/potential buyers, know what they're getting into. As far as looks, I would take this over the American 3 row versions..
PS: Beautiful scenery as always, my friend..
Thank you very much for your review honestly in my opinion this was very honest review the reason I’m saying that is because when I watch the other reviews they look like promotion they don’t look like they are giving an honest review because I think the companies of the manufacture of the vehicle they don’t like to show the actual fault they only give it to the people who they do the review only for the purpose of promotion not for the purpose for the customer to know how is the vehicle actually running in a situation that you may encounter. thank you very much and please keep doing your job in this honest manner and don’t fall into the trap of the companies that trying to get promotion not a review. thank you very much for your review and the hard work. God bless you.
Thanks for your reviews. We loved your review on the Atlas (which is what we got instead of the Palisade). I like VWs, but this seems like a great vehicle too. But I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your reviews. Keep up the good work!
Very informative content and filming as always! And your gaze when the car shuts off and your seat moves back said everything!
Can you do the same with Pilot please. Big fan of Pilot but mine was a total loss due to an accident. Now I am thinking to buy Calligraphy, but I am bit skeptical specially due to the the highway wind noise.
The thing is if you are a normal person putting yourself in a situation like that without knowing how to properly prep beforehand with winter tires or experience, you deserve to get stuck. Also, as you see, he was able to get out which is the ultimate goal, right?
I’d stick with the Pilot. Better AWD system and reliability with the smooth V6. The Hyundai does look nice but still not sold.
While I would normally agree with that, we test drove and researched the Pilot vs the Palisade. The Palisade is comparable or better it just about every way and was about $5K cheaper. Additionally, it has a better expected reliability vs the Pilot according to Consumer Reports. My limited experience with the Palisade's AWD is that it is good enough but not as good as my Outback's AWD, but I don't have any experience with the Pilot's AWD to draw a comparison. I would like to see other cars doing this same run in the video in the snow to make a comparison.
@@sleze The Honda's rear vectoring AWD is technically superior and definitely on road with it's 70% power to rear end and steering aid capability, but in diagonal obstacles it's still clutch limited and it did overheat to some journalists... As much as i like it, i can't not ignore how much spin it takes to get traction... check here the recent ivtm4 rear wheels only
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and here their previous non vectoring vtm4
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it makes 180° wheel turn and it's moving, much better
I do like in single rear wheel tests how new ivtm4 nicely puts 100% of rear 70% power to just that single wheel, but i wish they would make one more aggressive mode which takes much less spin to get grip
My podiatrist has a Hyundai SUV..Santa Fe I think. He is battling Hyundai about excessive oil consumption. The brand also has unwanted braking issues with collision mitigation. Then there is the sudden failure of engines....catastrophic failures. Toyota is way better and Honda as well.
@@sleze Hyundai and Kia have been the value proposition, especially since they do the warranty. I still don’t believe that the reliability is there. Look at any 3-5 year old Kia or Hyundai and the Honda’s are always in better shape. Not saying things can’t change but they still have a ways to go.
@@atmartens oh please. They are great now. Just stop with that bs
Thank you so much for this review!!
Just found this channel... beautiful photography! Easy decision to subscribe
I just bought a 2021 CX5 GTR. I wonder how well it is going to do in the snow with snow tires.
Dude how can you test any vehicle in snow with summer tires?
Hey man, just found you at a perfect moment when am about to get this car. You doing a great job and your videos are amazing. And I subscribed because you're cool
The screen sometimes shuts off and sometimes doesn’t even turn on at all. Don’t know exactly why that is.
Really like the walkthrough and explaining regarding the mechanics of this vehicle.
Were buying one for my wife. Overall impressed with its snow abilities given the conditions and tires. Think that shut down was a fluke. I was climbing an incline slowly in her old Cadillac and it killed power and put it in park. I mean, lets face it, no one is gonna be trying to get through snow like this, he’s just trying to see the AWD system ability. It probably tried for too long and it’s probably the car’s way of saying stop, cause it doesn’t know whats going on. Anyone else would kill traction, lock the wheels, and give her the beans 😈
I am sad to see the HTRAC system is still only marginal at best. I had a pretty bad experience with a Santa Fe a couple of years ago. The issue is with the AWD center clutch pack that overheats very easily and the electronics have to intervene quickly to shut everything down. Honestly the 4-wheel lock is a joke on these. Surprising that you did not have an overheating indicator; now imagine adding their 8-speed dual clutch to the mix and the result is even scarier. Better to stay on the beaten path with a Hyundai/Kia with HTRAC.
It has improved, but it's still not as capable as those from legacy makes like Toyota or Honda.
Did you get a answer from Hyundai about the Shut Down?
I don't understand how the vehicle just determines to shut itself off??? The same thing happened to that benz suv you reviewed a bit ago and I am wondering what the companies explanation was for this turning off stuff?
Yes, they removed some feature from 2020 limited and rename it to calligraphy so they can charge for more.
Keep it up! Your reviews are great👍
Incorrect, there is a setting in the display which can have the full screen apple car play
Correct. I own a 21 calligraphy and you can definitely make CarPlay full screen. You can only access the setting when your phone is unplugged. That’s where he went wrong.
He also mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. I hate it when these reviewers make false assumptions
@@eBikify exactly. And that deters people away.
I’ve watched all your reviews, but why say the Pilot or Ascent now vs this and Telluride? Sorta seemed the other way after watching the reviews?
Did you turn traction control off?
Love your channel. Can you review the new Explorer Timberline. It would be awesome to see how it handles in these situations.
Very entertaining, thanks Ryan. Answer this question...why is every Palisade I see either black or white, like your press mule? I've seen plenty of Telluride in at least 4 colors (black, white, green and blue). Are people or dealers afraid of color? I like that road and the challenges it brings to the table...
I call driver error. When driving in deep snow and getting stuck, you don't go straight to the throttle, you rapidly tap the accelerator which reduces wheel spin.
Your review was excellent. I am also pausing based on the Snow Test. Never saw a car shutdown like that. I have a 2019 Acura MDX with Advance Package. The new 2022 Acura MDX with Advance Package is Winking at me, particularly with all the betterments and enhancements. It seems that SHAWDY is better than HTRAC IMHO based on this test drive. I'm in no rush, as my lease e ds in June 2022, however, if Acura co es out with Trade Up program, i would be tempted , perhaps later this year. And there is a sizeable price difference between the Palisade Calligraphy vs. Acura MDX Advance. We'll see. Thx again for your videos, one of the best on line reviews.
Hi good video. I'd like you to do the same test on 2021 Honda Pilot as I got one this month. Thanks!
Got the 2021 Black Edition Pilot. The I-VTM4 AWD system is amazing. Same as the SH-AWD for Acura but tuned different for the Pilot. This channel has been the only one I’ve seen point out this very very important detail. Research and make sure your getting every bang for your buck. Most reviewers gloss over the AWD systems. Just because it says it’s AWD doesn’t mean it’s good or will perform well.
I like your offroad review, in particular for mid size SUV and 4x4. So, do you plan to review the new Pathfinder 2022 ?
Yeah, we've been trying to get a Pathfinder, but Nissan has been slow to move one to our region.
So Palisade is just a city slicker, it ain't the real deal for the country...It ain't the Range Rover, but I guess it is good enough for less than 1/2 the price. Great test! Thanks for sharing the vid.
Really like the P-Sade overall over the T-Ride. Would own one if we needed a large SUV.
So we own 2019 and 2020 Santa Fe models....super happy with both.
Kind of look like baby Palisades.
هذا سيار نمر ابيض قوي 🎉🎉🎉🎉
did hyundai ever get back to you?
Great video. Would the subaru ascent limited or the subaru outback onnyx pass this snow test where the palisade failed and shutdown?
I would assume they wouldn't have an issue, since we've done worse without ever having that happen. BUT, you can never be certain unless doing a controlled side-by-side test.
@@drivingsports there's your next video👍🏽. I will look forward to a comparison subaru ascent vs Hyundai palisade. What do you think?
In all honesty, I had the 2008 subaru Tribeca limited and lived it so did my kids and my wife. It was our first subaru. Now we have the 2020 ascent limited 8 seats and somehow I don't feel the fun as i had with the Tribeca. Could be the cvt? Not sure. So I wanted to trade it for the palisade limited or sel. But wife and kids are not too excited about that. My dislikes with the ascent limited are the lack of trunk space with 3rd row up. The position of the USB on the 3rd row seat when my kids are there, still getting used to the cvt. The palisade offers more luxury and features for the same price as the ascent limited or touring. Am I being too picky? I don't take my vehicle off road but am planning to go camping this summer with family. So what do you think? Long term wise, am I better off keeping the ascent or getting the palisade?
@@zogadwoe ...as a lot of reviewers say, "...it's tough to buy a bad car these days; but it is possible to buy the wrong car..." Your Tribeca had the 6-cyl and the Ascent the new FA24DIT; but the biggest difference is probably that CVT. Remember, Subaru's BIG thing is safety, so the car is not going to allow too much fun (fun police is standard).
I'm sure the CVT also has issues with engine or off-throttle braking, meaning the car doesn't really slow down when you lift off the gas. Also, the Ascent always finished mid-pack in the 7-passenger comparo tests. I think the biggest complaints were the interior and the CVT.
As far as your passengers...if they could have everything in the Palisade they have in the Ascent, I'm sure they wouldn't mind. If they do mind, then it is easy enough for them to not ride in it and walk where they need to go.
@@K03sport The Subaru Ascent will allow for tons of fun. There are a lot of videos on youtube showing people throwing them around, drifting in snow, etc. If you want the fun of the older Subaru's in the new Ascent, turn OFF the Traction Control. This will allow for wheel spin and it's a lot of fun!
Wish this had Dynamax like the 2019 Sorento had, that was a pretty good system
Mt…? i want to look it up.
Hey, i was just wondering if you could review the new 2021 nissan rogue.
Can you please review how the Toyota Highlander Platinum AWD would do in the same situation?
I had higlander AWD . Did the same with so called comfort tires on my hybrid limited. I switched to winter tires. It was a champ after that .
at that point, the tires were the ones failing the system. i can't wait to get this vehicle.
Nice review keep up the good work
I noticed a lot
of thumping. Is that just a camera/mic thing? or was the suspension thumping like that for real?
Give me a time code so and I can tell you a bit more accurately. Make sure we're talking about the same thumping...
@@drivingsports Check around 8:39 and 8:57 two fairly big ones, but other small ones throughout that segment as well. Almost sounds like bump stops on suspension but perhaps just exaggerated on the mic?
@@trudgyhd Thanks for the times. Those are my tripods in the back bumping as I hit the potholes.
I'd Love to see your Snow test in this video compare a to 2022 Acura MDX SHAWDY Advance against the Pallisade - in the same place. That shut down was concerning to me, even though I don't go Off Road, But will have to handle snowy roads.
Even a wrangler with those tires would struggle, do what's the point of that test?
I am in Irvine, CA. Hyundai HQ is in Garden Grove, CA.
I asked a Hyundai guy to investigate what that engine shut-off is all about and reply to this comment section. 13:40
Test drove one. Must say I much preferred this interior to the Telluride. Was overall really impressed.
Super cool intro! Can anyone identify the mountain top shown at 0:29? Looks like an awesome place to visit.
That shot was from our Outback vs. Crosstrek video. It's part of the Washington state overland trail just outside of Ellensburg.
@@drivingsports thanks, Ryan! Btw I wanted to let you know that it’s thanks to your RAV4 Prime review that I ended up getting one. 5 months and 8k miles later it’s been the best purchase of my life! 🚗
@@RyanHolben Great to hear you were able to score one. They could have sold so many more if they could just make them fast enough. :)
@@DrivingSportsLive no kidding, I’ve had a few people stop me and ask where they can find one, and I’ve never seen another on the road (that I know of)! Btw, any beginner advice on finding some stock RAV4-accessible trails in WA?
@@RyanHolben Once the snow clears, try the Gold Creek exit off I-90 near Snoqualmie. Go down the road until it turns into NF-4832, to NF-4934, to NF-4948 (keep an eye out for a lookout to stop for lunch), Continue on NF-4948 to NF-4936 until it eventually connects to Katchess Lake Road. (Basically, just stay on the main line.) That will pop you back onto I-90 near Easton. Throughout the year conditions will vary, but it has some amazing views and is pretty easy (but watch for deep ruts from rainfall.)
When are we getting to see the Santa Fe with its new wet 8 speed DCT?
Definitely an issue with the choice of tires, however, Hyundai needs to come up with an explanation for the unexpected shutdown, that too without any displayed warnings etc.
Slush with all season tires is a nightmare.
Kia Telluride AWD snow and off road test please!!
Is Audi quattro way better than this HTRAC?
I wonder how a Tesla Y would do on your snow testing.
Just came across your channel this week (April 28) and can appreciate the thoroughness you put into your videos when reviewing vehicles like this Hyundai. I'm not in the market for a Hyundai but I'm in the market for a 4Runner and your other videos on the 4Runner are exactly what I need to make my decision on what trim of 4Runner I want. Thanks for all your efforts.
Can’t go wrong with a 4Runner! I hope you enjoy your ownership of it.
OK you did good with the throttle rocking, really good, yeah the computers seem to sometimes want to exercise more control than needed, but that might be workable lol. Anyway it seems like a good idea might be to ask to bring along a flight recorder device to plug into its obd port if you cannot drag along a tech from the shop. It would record everything the vehicle is doing and processing at the point of shutdown in case no fault codes were recorded.
It can be annoying when you have video and they find no codes. i would suspect the following. likely issue. The locking mechanism. It was either mechanically stressed, or approaching that limit or a thermal one. When you restarted the car, I noticed you said you had to relock it. Was there a click when it shut down or in cycling the engine before starting it? Wait, my bad old diesel habit. On Semi trucks the clutch , especially the clutches on the automatics like the 10 speeds, can get hot and alarms start going off and it screams driver abuse to the dispatcher over the satellite networks and may not properly unlock or if it does, not reengage.
The solution would be to either manually press the clutch in after shutting it off and recycle the transmission and engine software via the ignition key and wait for the hissing, popping and buzzing to stop and restart it, or if no clutch pedal, hold the brake to disengage the clutch and recycle again. I would think the locking mechanism or a related sensor was the issue.
I find it odd that it was unlocked when you restarted it unless it is designed to auto unlock before a shutdown. If it is designed to disengage before shutdown, then they need to simply add a shut down warning then alert to avoid or shutdown will commence in x number of seconds then wait x number to restart.
So, either the lock i am thinking or they simply need to program a text message to appear so the soccer mom lost in the forest does not scream in terror and pull out her hair when her car dies in the middle of nowhere out of cell phone coverage in the woods LOL.
If you can’t change the tires on the vehicle as you stated in the beginning, then of course this vehicle along with many others would be limited with off-road performance such as this test. You could clearly see all the tires were turning they just had no grip. I would be more concerned if you saw that the tires were not turning.
Subaru's x-mode still very good on snow and other terrain.