We just had a huge snow storm here in Ontario a couple days ago with 21 plus inches of the white stuff and I was able to put my wife's palisade to the test. We do have some Michelin X Ice on the vehicle, and let me say I've had lots of AWD and 4x4 vehicles like Ford, GMC, Toyota, Volvo and my wife's last vehicle was a wrangler Rubicon, I loved the jeep but it was just too small for 2 kids and 2 big dogs. I was very impressed with how the Palisade performed! Didn't have any problems getting around. Hit a couple of very deep snow spots where the plows blocked in the side streets and this thing just plowed right through. One time I though I was stuck but the tires just dug down to the pavement and I was moving again. I was very skeptical about getting a Hyundai at first but after owning the Palisade for a 4 months now I am very happy with our purchase.
Same with my Santa Fe 2.5 T 2022, with yesterday snow storm and crazy road conditions still I was able to cruise the city for 6hrs in all the road where they didn't even clean the road yet. In love with my car
I just bought the Limited AWD 2021 Palisade a week ago and am completely in love with the car. It has everything my family and I need and then some! I'd highly recommend this car to anyone interested for any reason.
@@mrpogi23 That's unfortunate, I feel for you. Luckily we avoided dealer markup and were able to get one local to where we live (Northern California). Where are you located? Scarcity is definitely playing a factor and research what you can to ensure you get what you're looking for without paying the ridiculous dealer markup.
We just upgraded to the 2021 Limited from a 2020 SE model. Boy what a world of difference. Apparently they are selling like hot cakes because the dealership we went to only had two of the exact same trim and optioned Limited versions, even down to the paint color.
I figure 99.999999% of people never go off road. And nobody buys it for 0-60. Its a daily driver for most people. I live in Canada and have snow tires so why use all seasons that are really not all season but marketing? But I like seeing different perspectives. I have subscribed.
My Toyota highlander hybrid used to do that. I was shocked the first time. I put snow tires and it drove like a Champ after that. No snow or ice works stop it. This guy looks like took the car out to show it was a failure.
You are 100% wrong actually, all my family use our vehicle when we go to our relatives ranches which most the time are essential to have good cars for off roads
I think he means representative on how the system works. You can give an Olympic sprinter the best running shoes, but they’re useless on slipper surfaces..
This was a real review of the deep enough snow conditions that actually put the vehicle to the test. I'm 2 miles down a mountain road that gets *plenty* of snow, and appreciate reviews like this. Thanks!
It's not the awd system at fault here,it's the tires,you can see the system sending power all around but no grip with the all seasons,and why would anybody try to drive through the slick stuff and not use momentum,you can get anything stuck if you try hard enough
@@Petoskey116 I see you don't pay attention. For one he literally said he is not allowed to change the tires. You drive with what it came with. The majority of people who buy this vehicle aren't going to invest in a second set of tires anyways so this is just fine of a review.
I agree with most of what was said. Simply adjusting the driving technique once the tires lost grip and couldn’t do anymore solved the problem. Driving technique plus the car’s computer, could probably handle it pretty easily. If an owner “could” switch out the tires for something more appropriate for the conditions, I’m betting it would have been just fine.
I don't find the AWD to be a problem at all. It is street tuned like many AWD systems. AWD systems in vehicles from Ford, Nissan, Mercedes, etc also shut down in certain conditions.
FYI, turning off split screen in the menus for the connected phone will enable full screen CarPlay again. It's just set by default on the 2021 to allow split screen with the head unit using the right 1/3rd of the display.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
First, confession. I'm awaiting delivery of it's little brother, the Santa Fe. Your videos are some of the absolute best for judging how vehicles will perform in tough conditions in the real world. I concur that you should have seen warning messages. That said, it seemed to do very well on what you described as extremely slippery conditions, uphill, from a standstill, and without snow tires. Thanks.
Dude, your reaction when the car shut down was **classic!** Yeah, it doesn't make me want to take a Palisade in deep snow. Hopefully, Hyundai is always learning and always improving...
Been plowed in in NYC, by those snow plows, this past horrendous winter. Was hell to get out, after that stuff froze. Took alot of digging, then reversing and forwarding to get out.
Great review , but in all fairness it's not the car or the transmission that failed you, it was clearly the tires. All wheels were spinning and no forward progress made because of loss of traction. You could have had 3 diffs locked and get the same result with these tires.Not to mention the 20" rims. Snow tires are made for snow, not that cheap "all season" crap they put from the factory. (As a Canadian driver I should know). The shut down was imminent to save the engine and components. However, I think there had to be a warning light after that. Hyundai should come up with an explanation or a fix.
PLEASE CORRECT YOUR MISINFORMATION AT THE 2:00 MARK. I own the 2021 calligraphy and know for a fact you were incorrect on these topics: - you mentioned that apple CarPlay doesn’t take up the screen anymore. CarPlay DOES take up the full screen. All you have to do is turn off the split screen option in the CarPlay settings of the car. (Note: to access this setting, CarPlay cannot be active, so your phone must be UNPLUGGED from the car.) - you mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. Please be sure to thoroughly research the car’s settings before making statements like these
I bought 1 and no shot down on mud snow or sand. Love it and as long as all these functions are packed on value I will continue to buy this palisade in the future.
@@iggibars it actually doesn't. This vehicle failed the test due to the tires, not the awd system. As you can see all 4 tires were spinning trying to gain traction and the TIRES still wouldn't grip.
After driving in slushy conditions and almost going off the road in our 2020 we change out the OEM tires to Toyo Celcius CUV....completely changed the handling and it feels confident in all conditions.
I have a 2020 Kia Sorento SXL AWD V6. And i think my older Dynamax AWD system is far superior to this newer Htrac. Tires also play a HUGE role in getting through this kind of weather/terrain.
Thanks for your reviews. We loved your review on the Atlas (which is what we got instead of the Palisade). I like VWs, but this seems like a great vehicle too. But I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your reviews. Keep up the good work!
Lmaooo we got out palisade stuck in snow this year and it did the same thing. It gave a bunch of warnings and disabled terrain modes. Did the same thing man
@@DrivingSportsLive so they never gave an answer? I didn’t expect you to hold a video but you’ve thrown in manufacture’s responses on problems like Nissan’s. Was just wondering
@@zero2sixty244 Correct. We discussed it. I shared the video with them. They sent it to engineering for review. I told them when we needed a reply by (so we could add to the video) and they didn't follow up.
It's actually a really good looking vehicle. Just not into Hyundai-Kia stuff. Awesome video as usual. Whatever happened with your deal with IgnitionTV Ryan?
We stopped producing broadcast versions for a while. But we just wrapped a couple new series for syndication. We’re hoping they’ll pick it up again. It always helps if viewers request it too. 😎
@@drivingsports I will chat with some of the Multichoice guys I know. I do fear IgnitionTV is on a serious downward trend. Streaming services are providing tougher competition than the parent company planned for.
Thanks for the video Ryan. Yeah, that shut down was really weird. I hope Hyundai gets back to you, so that your viewers/potential buyers, know what they're getting into. As far as looks, I would take this over the American 3 row versions.. PS: Beautiful scenery as always, my friend..
The gentleman didn't do his homework. The leather and design of the seats are different from the limited. There are also a number of other interior upgrades included. Other functional differences as well.
Recently purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD; there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.
Thank you very much for your review honestly in my opinion this was very honest review the reason I’m saying that is because when I watch the other reviews they look like promotion they don’t look like they are giving an honest review because I think the companies of the manufacture of the vehicle they don’t like to show the actual fault they only give it to the people who they do the review only for the purpose of promotion not for the purpose for the customer to know how is the vehicle actually running in a situation that you may encounter. thank you very much and please keep doing your job in this honest manner and don’t fall into the trap of the companies that trying to get promotion not a review. thank you very much for your review and the hard work. God bless you.
Hey man, just found you at a perfect moment when am about to get this car. You doing a great job and your videos are amazing. And I subscribed because you're cool
While I would normally agree with that, we test drove and researched the Pilot vs the Palisade. The Palisade is comparable or better it just about every way and was about $5K cheaper. Additionally, it has a better expected reliability vs the Pilot according to Consumer Reports. My limited experience with the Palisade's AWD is that it is good enough but not as good as my Outback's AWD, but I don't have any experience with the Pilot's AWD to draw a comparison. I would like to see other cars doing this same run in the video in the snow to make a comparison.
@@sleze The Honda's rear vectoring AWD is technically superior and definitely on road with it's 70% power to rear end and steering aid capability, but in diagonal obstacles it's still clutch limited and it did overheat to some journalists... As much as i like it, i can't not ignore how much spin it takes to get traction... check here the recent ivtm4 rear wheels only th-cam.com/video/fqtTLSqIiB8/w-d-xo.html and here their previous non vectoring vtm4 th-cam.com/video/Ivfjmckk4No/w-d-xo.html it makes 180° wheel turn and it's moving, much better I do like in single rear wheel tests how new ivtm4 nicely puts 100% of rear 70% power to just that single wheel, but i wish they would make one more aggressive mode which takes much less spin to get grip
My podiatrist has a Hyundai SUV..Santa Fe I think. He is battling Hyundai about excessive oil consumption. The brand also has unwanted braking issues with collision mitigation. Then there is the sudden failure of engines....catastrophic failures. Toyota is way better and Honda as well.
@@sleze Hyundai and Kia have been the value proposition, especially since they do the warranty. I still don’t believe that the reliability is there. Look at any 3-5 year old Kia or Hyundai and the Honda’s are always in better shape. Not saying things can’t change but they still have a ways to go.
Just came across your channel this week (April 28) and can appreciate the thoroughness you put into your videos when reviewing vehicles like this Hyundai. I'm not in the market for a Hyundai but I'm in the market for a 4Runner and your other videos on the 4Runner are exactly what I need to make my decision on what trim of 4Runner I want. Thanks for all your efforts.
2:06 I'm glad you pointing it out, i hope they see your review. How in the world they manage to make things worse in newer model and it passes for production? And it's just programing, person in office chair doing it's keyboard labor, it's not like they have to remodel the bumper, manufacture it and pass it through collision test it was actually spinning all wheels and it seems with closed center clutch it had better continuous delivery, unless that was just more throttle, it's too bad it quits even it's not grinding clutches, but maybe they have built in fault mode when vehicle doesn't move even if there is wheel spin, especially with faster wheel spin 13:34... I agree there should be at least some sort of code message for damage prevention, there could be things we don't know of which can go bad
The 2:00 mark was MISINFORMATION. I reported it in a comment with all caps , hoping they see it. They made two mistakes at that mark , actually - I own a 21 calligraphy. Apple CarPlay CAN be used full screen. It is a setting you have to change. You have to disable split screen in the car’s CarPlay settings, which are only accessible if your phone is UNPLUGGED from the car. That’s why he couldn’t find it. As far as the drive mode animations, they’re definitely still there. They can be enabled in the settings. He simply wasn’t looking hard enough.
Were buying one for my wife. Overall impressed with its snow abilities given the conditions and tires. Think that shut down was a fluke. I was climbing an incline slowly in her old Cadillac and it killed power and put it in park. I mean, lets face it, no one is gonna be trying to get through snow like this, he’s just trying to see the AWD system ability. It probably tried for too long and it’s probably the car’s way of saying stop, cause it doesn’t know whats going on. Anyone else would kill traction, lock the wheels, and give her the beans 😈
So Palisade is just a city slicker, it ain't the real deal for the country...It ain't the Range Rover, but I guess it is good enough for less than 1/2 the price. Great test! Thanks for sharing the vid.
As for the shutdown, I wonder if it was related to the auto start/stop thing. I saw in another video where a person had the same shutdown when they caught the engine just turning itself off as they stepped on the gas, and it confused the whole system. Restarted the car and it was like nothing happened. Never been a fan of that feature so I would just leave that off myself.
Really like the P-Sade overall over the T-Ride. Would own one if we needed a large SUV. So we own 2019 and 2020 Santa Fe models....super happy with both. Kind of look like baby Palisades.
The thing is if you are a normal person putting yourself in a situation like that without knowing how to properly prep beforehand with winter tires or experience, you deserve to get stuck. Also, as you see, he was able to get out which is the ultimate goal, right?
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
I upgraded from the 2020 base model AWD Hyundai Santa Fe after almost a year to the newer upgraded model Hyundai Santa Fe AWD turbo but same year. I had no issues running through snow or rain Normally I would run 35 to 40mph max in snow with a 2WD vehicle, but the this htrac AWD SUV I ran through snow at higher speeds like 60 and 65mph Through snow......and hand excellen👍🏽👍🏽
Your review was excellent. I am also pausing based on the Snow Test. Never saw a car shutdown like that. I have a 2019 Acura MDX with Advance Package. The new 2022 Acura MDX with Advance Package is Winking at me, particularly with all the betterments and enhancements. It seems that SHAWDY is better than HTRAC IMHO based on this test drive. I'm in no rush, as my lease e ds in June 2022, however, if Acura co es out with Trade Up program, i would be tempted , perhaps later this year. And there is a sizeable price difference between the Palisade Calligraphy vs. Acura MDX Advance. We'll see. Thx again for your videos, one of the best on line reviews.
Through rainy days on saturated wet roads i am able to make suddenly lane changes while traveling around others without loosing control The vehicle handles like a magnet on wet roads which gives you more control even while traveling around curves through rain. I can accelerate in rain from a dead stop aggressively but the vehicle doesn’t allow itself to spin wheels, but it just punches ahead That’s Hyundai’s Htrac AWD system👍🏽👍🏽
If I still lived in Washington I'd be applying to work with you, your job looks really fun. Great content as always. I can't wait to move back in a few years.
Question: Why don't you rock the steering wheel side to side when trying to get unstuck? I've seen that as an old off-roader's trick to try to make the tires bite in mud or snow.
Awesome work Driving Sports TV! Have you guys thought about doing a topical review of the available music streaming platforms and discussing which sounds best to you? Feel like many are not well advised and just settle for Spotify.
I am sad to see the HTRAC system is still only marginal at best. I had a pretty bad experience with a Santa Fe a couple of years ago. The issue is with the AWD center clutch pack that overheats very easily and the electronics have to intervene quickly to shut everything down. Honestly the 4-wheel lock is a joke on these. Surprising that you did not have an overheating indicator; now imagine adding their 8-speed dual clutch to the mix and the result is even scarier. Better to stay on the beaten path with a Hyundai/Kia with HTRAC.
Definitely an issue with the choice of tires, however, Hyundai needs to come up with an explanation for the unexpected shutdown, that too without any displayed warnings etc.
Very entertaining, thanks Ryan. Answer this question...why is every Palisade I see either black or white, like your press mule? I've seen plenty of Telluride in at least 4 colors (black, white, green and blue). Are people or dealers afraid of color? I like that road and the challenges it brings to the table...
Can you please say honestly how Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run 500k to 600k km? I want to know because I have a confusion to choose from Hyundai Palisade V6, Volkswagen Atlas sel V6, and Honda Pilot Elite V6, please give me the right information because I want to choose a V6 car which will run perfectly 500k to 600k km without any big issues.
I think they're probably pretty even. But you should check Consumer Reports data to verify, since we don't actually do any reliability testing. Between the two, I would probably get the CX9.
I'd Love to see your Snow test in this video compare a to 2022 Acura MDX SHAWDY Advance against the Pallisade - in the same place. That shut down was concerning to me, even though I don't go Off Road, But will have to handle snowy roads.
Correct. I own a 21 calligraphy and you can definitely make CarPlay full screen. You can only access the setting when your phone is unplugged. That’s where he went wrong. He also mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. I hate it when these reviewers make false assumptions
@@giolats8179 I said hyundai...not the palisade. Though the video did show that even when they do use a normal transmission they are still horrible in the snow and prone to overheating/shutting down. Where even my little rav would have had no issue with that. So yah...ill wait for the Sequoia.
@@lawlkings rav 4 was a soccer mom car...and the Sequoia is Toyotas more luxurious suv. But the palisade and the Sequoia are both large 3 row suvs that compete. So why not compare them. Both can drive on the road fine...but you'd expect a big suv above 50 grand to handle the snow. If it can't then its not...sacrilegious to point it out. It's just fact. I love what hyundai has been doing lately...they have been making some amazing suvs....they just aren't good at awd systems or handling harsh terrain.
I would not buy this vehicle for ice/slush/snow, but for good looks, luxury, and cargo space. I wish it was available less the third row... There are many people without children that want a larger, good looking crossover with SOME reliability
OK you did good with the throttle rocking, really good, yeah the computers seem to sometimes want to exercise more control than needed, but that might be workable lol. Anyway it seems like a good idea might be to ask to bring along a flight recorder device to plug into its obd port if you cannot drag along a tech from the shop. It would record everything the vehicle is doing and processing at the point of shutdown in case no fault codes were recorded. It can be annoying when you have video and they find no codes. i would suspect the following. likely issue. The locking mechanism. It was either mechanically stressed, or approaching that limit or a thermal one. When you restarted the car, I noticed you said you had to relock it. Was there a click when it shut down or in cycling the engine before starting it? Wait, my bad old diesel habit. On Semi trucks the clutch , especially the clutches on the automatics like the 10 speeds, can get hot and alarms start going off and it screams driver abuse to the dispatcher over the satellite networks and may not properly unlock or if it does, not reengage. The solution would be to either manually press the clutch in after shutting it off and recycle the transmission and engine software via the ignition key and wait for the hissing, popping and buzzing to stop and restart it, or if no clutch pedal, hold the brake to disengage the clutch and recycle again. I would think the locking mechanism or a related sensor was the issue. I find it odd that it was unlocked when you restarted it unless it is designed to auto unlock before a shutdown. If it is designed to disengage before shutdown, then they need to simply add a shut down warning then alert to avoid or shutdown will commence in x number of seconds then wait x number to restart. So, either the lock i am thinking or they simply need to program a text message to appear so the soccer mom lost in the forest does not scream in terror and pull out her hair when her car dies in the middle of nowhere out of cell phone coverage in the woods LOL.
Can you do the same with Pilot please. Big fan of Pilot but mine was a total loss due to an accident. Now I am thinking to buy Calligraphy, but I am bit skeptical specially due to the the highway wind noise.
Got the 2021 Black Edition Pilot. The I-VTM4 AWD system is amazing. Same as the SH-AWD for Acura but tuned different for the Pilot. This channel has been the only one I’ve seen point out this very very important detail. Research and make sure your getting every bang for your buck. Most reviewers gloss over the AWD systems. Just because it says it’s AWD doesn’t mean it’s good or will perform well.
When I see a big SUV like this struggle to be comfortable and capable off-road it's always a surprise to me. It's like visually/cognitively, I see this big thing and my brain says, well, that should handle "big things" off road too. Meanwhile a COMPACT Subaru Crosstrek, has .7 inches MORE ground clearance and a more sophisticated/off-road worthy AWD system. I guess real off-roaders have known this forever (I'm just catching up to this knowledge) but bigger is definitely not better on a trail!
Clearly it’s the tires. Yeah we got lousy low resistance tires on our Sorento when we got it, but then upgraded to All Seasons and it did fine in the snow.
We just had a huge snow storm here in Ontario a couple days ago with 21 plus inches of the white stuff and I was able to put my wife's palisade to the test. We do have some Michelin X Ice on the vehicle, and let me say I've had lots of AWD and 4x4 vehicles like Ford, GMC, Toyota, Volvo and my wife's last vehicle was a wrangler Rubicon, I loved the jeep but it was just too small for 2 kids and 2 big dogs. I was very impressed with how the Palisade performed! Didn't have any problems getting around. Hit a couple of very deep snow spots where the plows blocked in the side streets and this thing just plowed right through. One time I though I was stuck but the tires just dug down to the pavement and I was moving again. I was very skeptical about getting a Hyundai at first but after owning the Palisade for a 4 months now I am very happy with our purchase.
Same with my Santa Fe 2.5 T 2022, with yesterday snow storm and crazy road conditions still I was able to cruise the city for 6hrs in all the road where they didn't even clean the road yet. In love with my car
Such an understated auto channel on TH-cam. Love your off-road content. Keep it coming.
cause it is one only where author actually drive/test cars outside dealer's lot.
rest of u=tubers are just paid-nonpaid presenters
Understated for now... everyone starts out with low numbers, but quality of content in the long run will always shine.
Right
I just bought the Limited AWD 2021 Palisade a week ago and am completely in love with the car. It has everything my family and I need and then some! I'd highly recommend this car to anyone interested for any reason.
you are lucky, im having trouble finding the right options we needed without paying extra markups and looking farther dealer locations..
@@mrpogi23 That's unfortunate, I feel for you. Luckily we avoided dealer markup and were able to get one local to where we live (Northern California). Where are you located? Scarcity is definitely playing a factor and research what you can to ensure you get what you're looking for without paying the ridiculous dealer markup.
We just upgraded to the 2021 Limited from a 2020 SE model. Boy what a world of difference. Apparently they are selling like hot cakes because the dealership we went to only had two of the exact same trim and optioned Limited versions, even down to the paint color.
I figure 99.999999% of people never go off road. And nobody buys it for 0-60. Its a daily driver for most people. I live in Canada and have snow tires so why use all seasons that are really not all season but marketing? But I like seeing different perspectives. I have subscribed.
My Toyota highlander hybrid used to do that. I was shocked the first time. I put snow tires and it drove like a Champ after that. No snow or ice works stop it. This guy looks like took the car out to show it was a failure.
You are 100% wrong actually, all my family use our vehicle when we go to our relatives ranches which most the time are essential to have good cars for off roads
Testing a car’s ability in snow by starting from full stop on an incline covered in ice without winter tires is not representative of anything.
Yes it is. It represents many vehicle owners across the US that think all-season or summer tires are sufficient for snow covered roadways
I think he means representative on how the system works. You can give an Olympic sprinter the best running shoes, but they’re useless on slipper surfaces..
This was a real review of the deep enough snow conditions that actually put the vehicle to the test. I'm 2 miles down a mountain road that gets *plenty* of snow, and appreciate reviews like this. Thanks!
the best car reviewing channel you can find! good job!
Beautiful videography. Never miss an episode even when I care nothing about the car reviewed 🔥🔥🔥
If it had snow tires this would be a champ obviously it shut down everything before it overheated
It's not the awd system at fault here,it's the tires,you can see the system sending power all around but no grip with the all seasons,and why would anybody try to drive through the slick stuff and not use momentum,you can get anything stuck if you try hard enough
I've had FWD get through the snow better - You're spot on, t's all about that tire. This guy should put some Snow tires on there for the real review.
@@Petoskey116 I see you don't pay attention. For one he literally said he is not allowed to change the tires. You drive with what it came with. The majority of people who buy this vehicle aren't going to invest in a second set of tires anyways so this is just fine of a review.
It is absolutely cumbersome to keep and change your tires every year. So so difficult and annoying.
I agree with most of what was said. Simply adjusting the driving technique once the tires lost grip and couldn’t do anymore solved the problem. Driving technique plus the car’s computer, could probably handle it pretty easily. If an owner “could” switch out the tires for something more appropriate for the conditions, I’m betting it would have been just fine.
@@shailenderkukreja5238 It's literally an hour to do. I've stored tires in my condo lol come on man
I don't find the AWD to be a problem at all. It is street tuned like many AWD systems. AWD systems in vehicles from Ford, Nissan, Mercedes, etc also shut down in certain conditions.
At least all the wheels were all spinning. Seemed like a very tough spot for those tires.
Agree. Can't get any better than all 4 wheels. Needs better tires
Just got a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy. Love it.
Thanks for the reviews!
Best automobile testing channel.
Alex on autos does a good job. I just wish the whole lot would do nightime headlight comparisons
FYI, turning off split screen in the menus for the connected phone will enable full screen CarPlay again. It's just set by default on the 2021 to allow split screen with the head unit using the right 1/3rd of the display.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
I know this isn't the first video with it but love the new intro!
First, confession. I'm awaiting delivery of it's little brother, the Santa Fe.
Your videos are some of the absolute best for judging how vehicles will perform in tough conditions in the real world.
I concur that you should have seen warning messages.
That said, it seemed to do very well on what you described as extremely slippery conditions, uphill, from a standstill, and without snow tires.
Thanks.
I think this is the only channel out there that shows real off-road capabilities, no bs.
Dude, your reaction when the car shut down was **classic!** Yeah, it doesn't make me want to take a Palisade in deep snow. Hopefully, Hyundai is always learning and always improving...
Been plowed in in NYC, by those snow plows, this past horrendous winter. Was hell to get out, after that stuff froze. Took alot of digging, then reversing and forwarding to get out.
@@phatphuk2761 Even Grand Cherokees get plowed in. Those snow banks can go 3-4 feet high. You have to shovel right after the storm.
Great review , but in all fairness it's not the car or the transmission that failed you, it was clearly the tires. All wheels were spinning and no forward progress made because of loss of traction. You could have had 3 diffs locked and get the same result with these tires.Not to mention the 20" rims. Snow tires are made for snow, not that cheap "all season" crap they put from the factory. (As a Canadian driver I should know). The shut down was imminent to save the engine and components. However, I think there had to be a warning light after that. Hyundai should come up with an explanation or a fix.
PLEASE CORRECT YOUR MISINFORMATION AT THE 2:00 MARK. I own the 2021 calligraphy and know for a fact you were incorrect on these topics:
- you mentioned that apple CarPlay doesn’t take up the screen anymore. CarPlay DOES take up the full screen. All you have to do is turn off the split screen option in the CarPlay settings of the car. (Note: to access this setting, CarPlay cannot be active, so your phone must be UNPLUGGED from the car.)
- you mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it.
Please be sure to thoroughly research the car’s settings before making statements like these
I bought 1 and no shot down on mud snow or sand. Love it and as long as all these functions are packed on value I will continue to buy this palisade in the future.
what tires you got?
@@drking3000 right now just all weather goodyear tires. Nothing fancy.
Palisade: "let me put comfort on for you"
Driver: "ok...?"
Palisade: "you'll be sitting here a while"
Honestly, this snow test would have been tough even for the Bronco Sport. Snow is the toughest stuff to drive in.
Bronco Sport? Lol. High standards there...but even the baby Branco has a much better awd system.
@@iggibars it actually doesn't. This vehicle failed the test due to the tires, not the awd system. As you can see all 4 tires were spinning trying to gain traction and the TIRES still wouldn't grip.
After driving in slushy conditions and almost going off the road in our 2020 we change out the OEM tires to Toyo Celcius CUV....completely changed the handling and it feels confident in all conditions.
I have a 2020 Kia Sorento SXL AWD V6. And i think my older Dynamax AWD system is far superior to this newer Htrac. Tires also play a HUGE role in getting through this kind of weather/terrain.
Very informative content and filming as always! And your gaze when the car shuts off and your seat moves back said everything!
Thanks for your reviews. We loved your review on the Atlas (which is what we got instead of the Palisade). I like VWs, but this seems like a great vehicle too. But I just wanted to say that I really appreciate your reviews. Keep up the good work!
Lmaooo we got out palisade stuck in snow this year and it did the same thing. It gave a bunch of warnings and disabled terrain modes. Did the same thing man
That’s very interesting to hear. Thanks for letting us know.
@@drivingsports are you not gonna get a message/statement from Hyundai?
@@zero2sixty244 After discussing it with them, we waited 3 weeks. We can't hold the video forever.
@@DrivingSportsLive so they never gave an answer? I didn’t expect you to hold a video but you’ve thrown in manufacture’s responses on problems like Nissan’s. Was just wondering
@@zero2sixty244 Correct. We discussed it. I shared the video with them. They sent it to engineering for review. I told them when we needed a reply by (so we could add to the video) and they didn't follow up.
Really like the walkthrough and explaining regarding the mechanics of this vehicle.
It's actually a really good looking vehicle. Just not into Hyundai-Kia stuff. Awesome video as usual. Whatever happened with your deal with IgnitionTV Ryan?
We stopped producing broadcast versions for a while. But we just wrapped a couple new series for syndication. We’re hoping they’ll pick it up again. It always helps if viewers request it too. 😎
@@drivingsports I will chat with some of the Multichoice guys I know. I do fear IgnitionTV is on a serious downward trend. Streaming services are providing tougher competition than the parent company planned for.
@@benoit.b9337 Hyundai and Kia is great now!
@@bradleyscarreviews I wouldn’t say that. Too many engine fires lately.
Thanks for the video Ryan. Yeah, that shut down was really weird. I hope Hyundai gets back to you, so that your viewers/potential buyers, know what they're getting into. As far as looks, I would take this over the American 3 row versions..
PS: Beautiful scenery as always, my friend..
Fantastic snow review! I wanted to watch the video before pulling my palisade out of our garage into the sheets of ice.
The gentleman didn't do his homework. The leather and design of the seats are different from the limited. There are also a number of other interior upgrades included. Other functional differences as well.
We’ve filmed both this and the Limited. Hyundai says the leather is different. We compared our footage of both and they are identical.
For people in some parts of the world where snow does not exist, you just told us to import the Palisate now. Thanks
Just found this channel... beautiful photography! Easy decision to subscribe
Recently purchased a 2022 Palisade Calligraphy AWD; there are still some areas for product improvement: add power folding exterior side mirrors, add sunglass holder in interior and add illumination for the overhead light buttons above driver and front passenger (the POI buttons are illuminated but the light buttons aren't, that's odd and an omission in form/function) and those rims on calligraphy trim are a bit 'loud', design something more classy the ones on current and previous Limited trim); and last but not least, consider adding hybrid powertrain as is offered on many other Hyundai products.
at that point, the tires were the ones failing the system. i can't wait to get this vehicle.
50K for a Palisade, no thanks... There are better options out there for 50k. Great review btw
Which options?
Thank you very much for your review honestly in my opinion this was very honest review the reason I’m saying that is because when I watch the other reviews they look like promotion they don’t look like they are giving an honest review because I think the companies of the manufacture of the vehicle they don’t like to show the actual fault they only give it to the people who they do the review only for the purpose of promotion not for the purpose for the customer to know how is the vehicle actually running in a situation that you may encounter. thank you very much and please keep doing your job in this honest manner and don’t fall into the trap of the companies that trying to get promotion not a review. thank you very much for your review and the hard work. God bless you.
Hey man, just found you at a perfect moment when am about to get this car. You doing a great job and your videos are amazing. And I subscribed because you're cool
Would love to see the same test conducted for the Pilot, Highlander, CX9
I’d stick with the Pilot. Better AWD system and reliability with the smooth V6. The Hyundai does look nice but still not sold.
While I would normally agree with that, we test drove and researched the Pilot vs the Palisade. The Palisade is comparable or better it just about every way and was about $5K cheaper. Additionally, it has a better expected reliability vs the Pilot according to Consumer Reports. My limited experience with the Palisade's AWD is that it is good enough but not as good as my Outback's AWD, but I don't have any experience with the Pilot's AWD to draw a comparison. I would like to see other cars doing this same run in the video in the snow to make a comparison.
@@sleze The Honda's rear vectoring AWD is technically superior and definitely on road with it's 70% power to rear end and steering aid capability, but in diagonal obstacles it's still clutch limited and it did overheat to some journalists... As much as i like it, i can't not ignore how much spin it takes to get traction... check here the recent ivtm4 rear wheels only
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and here their previous non vectoring vtm4
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it makes 180° wheel turn and it's moving, much better
I do like in single rear wheel tests how new ivtm4 nicely puts 100% of rear 70% power to just that single wheel, but i wish they would make one more aggressive mode which takes much less spin to get grip
My podiatrist has a Hyundai SUV..Santa Fe I think. He is battling Hyundai about excessive oil consumption. The brand also has unwanted braking issues with collision mitigation. Then there is the sudden failure of engines....catastrophic failures. Toyota is way better and Honda as well.
@@sleze Hyundai and Kia have been the value proposition, especially since they do the warranty. I still don’t believe that the reliability is there. Look at any 3-5 year old Kia or Hyundai and the Honda’s are always in better shape. Not saying things can’t change but they still have a ways to go.
@@atmartens oh please. They are great now. Just stop with that bs
Just came across your channel this week (April 28) and can appreciate the thoroughness you put into your videos when reviewing vehicles like this Hyundai. I'm not in the market for a Hyundai but I'm in the market for a 4Runner and your other videos on the 4Runner are exactly what I need to make my decision on what trim of 4Runner I want. Thanks for all your efforts.
Can’t go wrong with a 4Runner! I hope you enjoy your ownership of it.
Thank you so much for this review!!
2:06 I'm glad you pointing it out, i hope they see your review. How in the world they manage to make things worse in newer model and it passes for production? And it's just programing, person in office chair doing it's keyboard labor, it's not like they have to remodel the bumper, manufacture it and pass it through collision test
it was actually spinning all wheels and it seems with closed center clutch it had better continuous delivery, unless that was just more throttle, it's too bad it quits even it's not grinding clutches, but maybe they have built in fault mode when vehicle doesn't move even if there is wheel spin, especially with faster wheel spin 13:34... I agree there should be at least some sort of code message for damage prevention, there could be things we don't know of which can go bad
The 2:00 mark was MISINFORMATION. I reported it in a comment with all caps , hoping they see it. They made two mistakes at that mark , actually -
I own a 21 calligraphy. Apple CarPlay CAN be used full screen. It is a setting you have to change. You have to disable split screen in the car’s CarPlay settings, which are only accessible if your phone is UNPLUGGED from the car. That’s why he couldn’t find it. As far as the drive mode animations, they’re definitely still there. They can be enabled in the settings. He simply wasn’t looking hard enough.
@@eBikify got it, thanks for clarification
Were buying one for my wife. Overall impressed with its snow abilities given the conditions and tires. Think that shut down was a fluke. I was climbing an incline slowly in her old Cadillac and it killed power and put it in park. I mean, lets face it, no one is gonna be trying to get through snow like this, he’s just trying to see the AWD system ability. It probably tried for too long and it’s probably the car’s way of saying stop, cause it doesn’t know whats going on. Anyone else would kill traction, lock the wheels, and give her the beans 😈
Subaru's x-mode still very good on snow and other terrain.
So Palisade is just a city slicker, it ain't the real deal for the country...It ain't the Range Rover, but I guess it is good enough for less than 1/2 the price. Great test! Thanks for sharing the vid.
As for the shutdown, I wonder if it was related to the auto start/stop thing. I saw in another video where a person had the same shutdown when they caught the engine just turning itself off as they stepped on the gas, and it confused the whole system. Restarted the car and it was like nothing happened. Never been a fan of that feature so I would just leave that off myself.
Really like the P-Sade overall over the T-Ride. Would own one if we needed a large SUV.
So we own 2019 and 2020 Santa Fe models....super happy with both.
Kind of look like baby Palisades.
Test drove one. Must say I much preferred this interior to the Telluride. Was overall really impressed.
The headunit does display. its in the head unit settings.
The thing is if you are a normal person putting yourself in a situation like that without knowing how to properly prep beforehand with winter tires or experience, you deserve to get stuck. Also, as you see, he was able to get out which is the ultimate goal, right?
Keep it up! Your reviews are great👍
I don't want this vehicle but your reviews are the best in the business, keep up the good work!
Full screen Apple CarPlay has to be set to full screen instead of split screen I think it’s under phone projection in the Palisades settings.
I put a big all caps comment about this, right when this video was released. And he ignored it. Notice how he ignores anything proving his misleading, incorrect statements about the car. I smell bias against Hyundai!
I upgraded from the 2020 base model AWD Hyundai Santa Fe after almost a year to the newer upgraded model Hyundai Santa Fe AWD turbo but same year.
I had no issues running through snow or rain
Normally I would run 35 to 40mph max in snow with a 2WD vehicle, but the this htrac AWD SUV I ran through snow at higher speeds like 60 and 65mph Through snow......and hand excellen👍🏽👍🏽
Your review was excellent. I am also pausing based on the Snow Test. Never saw a car shutdown like that. I have a 2019 Acura MDX with Advance Package. The new 2022 Acura MDX with Advance Package is Winking at me, particularly with all the betterments and enhancements. It seems that SHAWDY is better than HTRAC IMHO based on this test drive. I'm in no rush, as my lease e ds in June 2022, however, if Acura co es out with Trade Up program, i would be tempted , perhaps later this year. And there is a sizeable price difference between the Palisade Calligraphy vs. Acura MDX Advance. We'll see. Thx again for your videos, one of the best on line reviews.
i was waiting for this for so long, thanks my favourite car channel
Through rainy days on saturated wet roads i am able to make suddenly lane changes while traveling around others without loosing control
The vehicle handles like a magnet on wet roads which gives you more control even while traveling around curves through rain. I can accelerate in rain from a dead stop aggressively but the vehicle doesn’t allow itself to spin wheels, but it just punches ahead
That’s Hyundai’s Htrac AWD system👍🏽👍🏽
Hyundai needs to see this video ..
Sent it to them before we released it. They forwarded it to engineering and that was the end of the email chain.
@@drivingsports did you get an update from them
You got me on twin peaks !!!
If I still lived in Washington I'd be applying to work with you, your job looks really fun. Great content as always. I can't wait to move back in a few years.
Dude, tires matter. Put winter tires on it and you’ll see the difference. Palisade is a great all around family hauler.
Question: Why don't you rock the steering wheel side to side when trying to get unstuck? I've seen that as an old off-roader's trick to try to make the tires bite in mud or snow.
Wish this had Dynamax like the 2019 Sorento had, that was a pretty good system
Awesome work Driving Sports TV! Have you guys thought about doing a topical review of the available music streaming platforms and discussing which sounds best to you? Feel like many are not well advised and just settle for Spotify.
It looks gorgeous.
Love your channel. Can you review the new Explorer Timberline. It would be awesome to see how it handles in these situations.
Slush with all season tires is a nightmare.
Nice review keep up the good work
هذا سيار نمر ابيض قوي 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Very disappointed. The car shut down??
Most people would freak out. Imagine during a hard snow storm. I hope the engineers get back with you
I am sad to see the HTRAC system is still only marginal at best. I had a pretty bad experience with a Santa Fe a couple of years ago. The issue is with the AWD center clutch pack that overheats very easily and the electronics have to intervene quickly to shut everything down. Honestly the 4-wheel lock is a joke on these. Surprising that you did not have an overheating indicator; now imagine adding their 8-speed dual clutch to the mix and the result is even scarier. Better to stay on the beaten path with a Hyundai/Kia with HTRAC.
It has improved, but it's still not as capable as those from legacy makes like Toyota or Honda.
Yes, they removed some feature from 2020 limited and rename it to calligraphy so they can charge for more.
Definitely an issue with the choice of tires, however, Hyundai needs to come up with an explanation for the unexpected shutdown, that too without any displayed warnings etc.
That’s why we got a FWD and a good set of winter tires
Very entertaining, thanks Ryan. Answer this question...why is every Palisade I see either black or white, like your press mule? I've seen plenty of Telluride in at least 4 colors (black, white, green and blue). Are people or dealers afraid of color? I like that road and the challenges it brings to the table...
Love your channel
Can you please say honestly how Hyundai Palisade v6 gdi engine is? Is this very good quality v6 engine? Will this engine run 500k to 600k km? I want to know because I have a confusion to choose from Hyundai Palisade V6, Volkswagen Atlas sel V6, and Honda Pilot Elite V6, please give me the right information because I want to choose a V6 car which will run perfectly 500k to 600k km without any big issues.
Quality and reliability wise which out of Palisade and CX9 you feel more confident to recommend based on your personal experience? Thank You.
I think they're probably pretty even. But you should check Consumer Reports data to verify, since we don't actually do any reliability testing. Between the two, I would probably get the CX9.
@@drivingsports Thank you.
@@mikey27437 www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2021-us-vehicle-dependability-study-vds, www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/top-10-2020-upper-midsize-suvs-by-customer-satisfaction
I like your offroad review, in particular for mid size SUV and 4x4. So, do you plan to review the new Pathfinder 2022 ?
Yeah, we've been trying to get a Pathfinder, but Nissan has been slow to move one to our region.
I'd Love to see your Snow test in this video compare a to 2022 Acura MDX SHAWDY Advance against the Pallisade - in the same place. That shut down was concerning to me, even though I don't go Off Road, But will have to handle snowy roads.
Incorrect, there is a setting in the display which can have the full screen apple car play
Correct. I own a 21 calligraphy and you can definitely make CarPlay full screen. You can only access the setting when your phone is unplugged. That’s where he went wrong.
He also mentioned that the drive mode changes do not animate anymore in the infotainment screen. Yes they do. You just have to enable the animations in the car’s settings. IT IS THERE. Just have to hunt for it. I hate it when these reviewers make false assumptions
@@eBikify exactly. And that deters people away.
I really like your reviews, editing, videography and narration. Keep up the good work!
what about the build quality structure is strong like american cars or just used cheap metal please replied i need to book my car this month
Number 1 issue with hyundai...
Dual clutch
Horrible off road or in snow.
Guess I'll still wait for the 23 Sequoia.
It doesn't have a dual clutch, but a torque converter
I love my ‘19 sequoia trd pro. Such a beast and plenty of leg room in all three rows.
@@giolats8179 I said hyundai...not the palisade. Though the video did show that even when they do use a normal transmission they are still horrible in the snow and prone to overheating/shutting down. Where even my little rav would have had no issue with that. So yah...ill wait for the Sequoia.
@@Shadownian Sequoia and Rav4 has offroading heritage and DNA, the Pallisade is basically a CUV city car.
@@lawlkings rav 4 was a soccer mom car...and the Sequoia is Toyotas more luxurious suv. But the palisade and the Sequoia are both large 3 row suvs that compete. So why not compare them. Both can drive on the road fine...but you'd expect a big suv above 50 grand to handle the snow. If it can't then its not...sacrilegious to point it out. It's just fact. I love what hyundai has been doing lately...they have been making some amazing suvs....they just aren't good at awd systems or handling harsh terrain.
I would not buy this vehicle for ice/slush/snow, but for good looks, luxury, and cargo space. I wish it was available less the third row... There are many people without children that want a larger, good looking crossover with SOME reliability
I just bought a 2021 CX5 GTR. I wonder how well it is going to do in the snow with snow tires.
Great review.
Which one should I buy
2022 Nissan pathfinder platinum, 2022 hyundai palisade calligraphy or 2022 Kia telluride sx?
OK you did good with the throttle rocking, really good, yeah the computers seem to sometimes want to exercise more control than needed, but that might be workable lol. Anyway it seems like a good idea might be to ask to bring along a flight recorder device to plug into its obd port if you cannot drag along a tech from the shop. It would record everything the vehicle is doing and processing at the point of shutdown in case no fault codes were recorded.
It can be annoying when you have video and they find no codes. i would suspect the following. likely issue. The locking mechanism. It was either mechanically stressed, or approaching that limit or a thermal one. When you restarted the car, I noticed you said you had to relock it. Was there a click when it shut down or in cycling the engine before starting it? Wait, my bad old diesel habit. On Semi trucks the clutch , especially the clutches on the automatics like the 10 speeds, can get hot and alarms start going off and it screams driver abuse to the dispatcher over the satellite networks and may not properly unlock or if it does, not reengage.
The solution would be to either manually press the clutch in after shutting it off and recycle the transmission and engine software via the ignition key and wait for the hissing, popping and buzzing to stop and restart it, or if no clutch pedal, hold the brake to disengage the clutch and recycle again. I would think the locking mechanism or a related sensor was the issue.
I find it odd that it was unlocked when you restarted it unless it is designed to auto unlock before a shutdown. If it is designed to disengage before shutdown, then they need to simply add a shut down warning then alert to avoid or shutdown will commence in x number of seconds then wait x number to restart.
So, either the lock i am thinking or they simply need to program a text message to appear so the soccer mom lost in the forest does not scream in terror and pull out her hair when her car dies in the middle of nowhere out of cell phone coverage in the woods LOL.
...and this is why we have 4Runners. =D cheers.
I’ve watched all your reviews, but why say the Pilot or Ascent now vs this and Telluride? Sorta seemed the other way after watching the reviews?
Can you do the same with Pilot please. Big fan of Pilot but mine was a total loss due to an accident. Now I am thinking to buy Calligraphy, but I am bit skeptical specially due to the the highway wind noise.
Hi good video. I'd like you to do the same test on 2021 Honda Pilot as I got one this month. Thanks!
Got the 2021 Black Edition Pilot. The I-VTM4 AWD system is amazing. Same as the SH-AWD for Acura but tuned different for the Pilot. This channel has been the only one I’ve seen point out this very very important detail. Research and make sure your getting every bang for your buck. Most reviewers gloss over the AWD systems. Just because it says it’s AWD doesn’t mean it’s good or will perform well.
When I see a big SUV like this struggle to be comfortable and capable off-road it's always a surprise to me. It's like visually/cognitively, I see this big thing and my brain says, well, that should handle "big things" off road too. Meanwhile a COMPACT Subaru Crosstrek, has .7 inches MORE ground clearance and a more sophisticated/off-road worthy AWD system. I guess real off-roaders have known this forever (I'm just catching up to this knowledge) but bigger is definitely not better on a trail!
Clearly it’s the tires. Yeah we got lousy low resistance tires on our Sorento when we got it, but then upgraded to All Seasons and it did fine in the snow.
looks fine with me as long as it has responsive and aggressive active power at the Rear wheels Sir
Did you get a answer from Hyundai about the Shut Down?